Restraint of "Caution" Dogs for Nail Trims

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  • Опубліковано 7 гру 2022
  • Megan Urton, Manager of the DoveLewis Assistant Team, reviews safety and restraint techniques for handling unpredictable dogs during nail trims.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 30

  • @trashartist3905
    @trashartist3905 11 місяців тому +12

    Lol that lady who walked in at the end and was like "nope"

  • @jenniferbruns2432
    @jenniferbruns2432 Рік тому +11

    I really like that your doing this on the floor and not a table

    • @paulacoyle5685
      @paulacoyle5685 4 місяці тому

      Really? What’s the difference except that you can’t put them on their side on a table?

    • @gabbyroark
      @gabbyroark Місяць тому

      Dogs his size are typically too big for the table

  • @michelleborchardt199
    @michelleborchardt199 8 місяців тому +32

    The dog was at threshold from the start, which set the tone for a negative experience. He was showing appeasement, stiffness, forehead furrowing, mild avoidance and so on BEFORE he was put on his side. Instead of using a muzzle which protects the humans, but does not emotionally protect the dog, I would consider using proactive anxiety medications. If this is repeated, this dog will not improve and runs the risk of getting worse. As veterinary professionals, we owe it to our patients to avoid traumatizing them for a “quick trim” because the owner can’t do it. Discussing cooperative care to improve the dog’s relationship with nail trims away from the clinic is heavily recommended with the assistance of a certified trainer.

    • @paulacoyle5685
      @paulacoyle5685 4 місяці тому +7

      You really think these people don’t know this and have tried everything? Many of us have done all these things and run into dogs who absolutely won’t tolerate it. Others put up with it even if you screw up every time. I have had dogs for 40 years without this problem and now I have one who has grabbed my hand hard a couple of times if I make a mistake. And then he looks embarrassed. You can’t assume that you’re never going to make a mistake so he gets muzzled.

    • @Gail-bz5kh
      @Gail-bz5kh 3 місяці тому

      @@paulacoyle5685 Different dogs and their situations have different needs. Fortunately, I never had to resort to the methods shown here, but I also think there are some mitigations that could reduce stress for the dog that were not used here. Paulacoyle5685, please see my post above.
      I wonder if DoveLewis is an appropriate advisor for nail cutting: it is an emergency clinic where everyone is trained as emergency responders to get the job done quickly and safely. Not exactly a match for ongoing routine care.

    • @Gail-bz5kh
      @Gail-bz5kh 3 місяці тому

      @michelleborchardt199: You are my kind of vet. Thank you.

    • @amberemma6136
      @amberemma6136 3 місяці тому +4

      Are you serious? You think tranquilizers are less invasive and risky then a few mins of muzzle and restraint?

    • @michelleborchardt199
      @michelleborchardt199 3 місяці тому

      @@paulacoyle5685If a dog will not tolerate a nail trim when you’re using anxiety reducing medications, one of two things are happening: 1. You need a different medication cocktail. There are many to choose from, so adjusting dosage or switching to a different medication recommended. 2. If no amount of medication is helpful, then nail trims are horrifying and traumatic to your dog to the extent that they’re able to blow through any medication. In that case, training can go a long way. I have worked with tons of dogs that were previously aggressive for this procedure. With proper training based desensitization and counterconditioning, the dogs are no longer afraid, medications can be reduced or eliminated, and the client satisfaction is high.

  • @nicholegallo1090
    @nicholegallo1090 Рік тому +4

    So knowledgeable! Thank you!

  • @jehovahuponyou
    @jehovahuponyou Рік тому +7

    ALL, I MEAN "ALL" ANIMALS FEAR NAIL CLIPPERS - I WAS ONCE ATTACKED BY FIVE FULL GROWN GRIZZLE BEARS, I WHIPPED OUT MY NAIL CLIPPERS AND SCREAMED TO THE TOP OF LUNGS; *"SNIP, SNIP!!!"* - AT THAT ALL THE BEARS RAN AWAY SCREAMING, WORKS EVERY TIME - LOL!!!!!!!
    PS - THIS VIDEO WAS A GOOD ONE - YOU DID WELL - BRAVO!!!!!!!

  • @futureshock7425
    @futureshock7425 Рік тому +1

    Good doggo

  • @Gail-bz5kh
    @Gail-bz5kh 3 місяці тому +3

    To be fair, some dogs tolerate the dremel and some prefer clippers. Every dog is different, but IME every dog is anxious about nail cutting. Let's put that dremel vs. clipper controversy below to bed. Know your dog's needs, learn how to read your dog's body language, and form a plan that will work for him safely and as trauma-free as possible.
    I have a special needs dog who, before coming from a shelter, was physically abused and neglected, and I will not put him through as much stress as the dog exhibited in this video. My boy is on an anti-anxiety drug and goes on "Happy Visits" to the vet every other week for low-stress introductions to strangers handling him, getting used to strange instruments, and even walking with strangers holding his leash without my presence. He has come to adore these visits, as they are filled with high-value treats and gentle handling. This, from a dog who used to scream in panic attacks when seeing new people and places. His nails have never been clipped, but I watch them and his dewclaws are strong, the others not excessively long because I make sure he spends at least an hour a day walking on cement sidewalks as we explore new experiences and he gets rewarded for staying calm. It has taken months for him to feel secure in my handling his feet, clippers in hand. The day is approaching when I will make my first clip---just one nail to start.
    I would much rather have him sedated than subject him to any more terrifying experiences. He's endured enough, and deserves respect for his courage as his sweet character is finally shining through. My wonderful vet and the vet techs are all aligned with me on this, taking as much time as needed before finally clipping nails, and it's been a joy for all of us watching him blossom. But again, this is a dog who's endured a horrible puppyhood. He was saved at 2 years old, thankfully soon enough to help him grow into the sweet, gentle Old Soul that is his true nature.
    I think each dog needs to be evaluated on his own history, his personality, his fears, and his ability to trust. My beautiful old border collie had to be muzzled (with cheese spread in the muzzle to distract him) and was restrained in a sitting position. Also helpful was offering "secondary stimulation", e.g., some vigorous scratching on his neck or hip during each clip. Those maneuvers dramatically reduced his reactivity. Wish the video had used those techniques as well.
    Good luck everyone. Keep sharing ideas. I hope you find a solution that works for your peace of mind, and your dog's comfort. 🌈❤

  • @tas586
    @tas586 Рік тому

    Hello

  • @sarahm498
    @sarahm498 Рік тому +3

    Do you guys ever use fear free methods?

    • @Kuraujia
      @Kuraujia Рік тому +6

      This was very fear-free. She paused to let the dog accept the situation. Of course there is always room for improvement. In my case, I trained my dog to love nail trimming by letting him eat the nails that feel off. Kinda weird, but he just loves it and it’s not dangerous

    • @sarahm498
      @sarahm498 Рік тому +7

      ​@Kuraujia lateral restraint for a nail trim seems like the opposite of fear free. This dog is high FAS and there are so many other methods that could be attempted first. In FF training there are no examples of jumping straight to lateral restraint especially for a non-urgent procedure.

    • @Gail-bz5kh
      @Gail-bz5kh 3 місяці тому

      @@sarahm498 I agree. There were many calming techniques that were not used here. It was hard to watch, given the dog's body language. Maybe there are some high-octane, goofy dogs or damaged dogs who won't respond to calming techniques or training, but I suspect they are a small minority, In which case they can be given calming medication as a compassionate measure.
      DoveLewis is an emergency clinic. It's an odd source to offer advice on ongoing routine care. This video is of use to only a very small segment of dog owners who deal with difficult dogs. It is hard to watch this poor dog being so miserable for such a routine event. Emergency clinicians know how to get a difficult, life-saving job done. Routine nail clipping isn't one of them. 💔

  • @amayberr
    @amayberr Рік тому +7

    This isn’t a very fear free type of restraint for dogs. He was never relaxed and happy, even at the beginning he was tense and apprehensive.

    • @soybeanokra
      @soybeanokra Рік тому +14

      Sometimes the hospital is so busy that you just have to do what you have to do to get it done. You can’t take the time to use fear-free techniques all the time. The muzzle needed to be used for the humans’ safety. The owner can help the dog by handling the dog’s feet at home, muzzle training, and taking “happy visits” to the vet. This was a tough thing to learn when I went from the behavioral field to the veterinary field; I had to switch my brain from the long-term, make friends with the animal first approach to the get-it-done so we can move to the next animal approach. It’s tough but necessary when so many animals’ health is in your hands

    • @Gail-bz5kh
      @Gail-bz5kh 3 місяці тому

      @@soybeanokra Thank you for this insight. You have a tough job, especially when owners are unable/unwilling to take the time to do what you advise. I am so very fortunate to have found a clinic that is open-heartedly welcoming traumatized animals and their owners, advising them on next steps, including medication for abused animals, and offer happy visits. It sounds like your clinic is a medical factory. There are many of those in my area, and they are horrible places to visit. Perhaps you deserve a less emergent clinic: finding a place where owners want to learn and work with their vets. Those clinics are out there. Good luck, and thank you for your gifts.

  • @mauricioh6716
    @mauricioh6716 Місяць тому

    Blessings, John 3:16. Jesus loves you.

  • @stellannie86
    @stellannie86 9 днів тому

    _Or_ you could teach your dog to accept nail clipping as a trade for treats, and therefore not traumatize them.. 🤷‍♀

  • @TheSpawdcastwithCarrieHyde
    @TheSpawdcastwithCarrieHyde Рік тому +4

    So now you are pulling his leg away from his natural range of motion secondly had you trained this dog with a dremel from day one and never used a nail clipper he would not be so stressed. I am shocked to see a vet pull this arm back like this, especially with a dog who is resisting.

    • @ptbooker
      @ptbooker 10 місяців тому

      Not true.

    • @rueandbea
      @rueandbea 6 місяців тому +1

      Please volunteer at a local gp clinic! It may change your perspective.

    • @TheSpawdcastwithCarrieHyde
      @TheSpawdcastwithCarrieHyde 6 місяців тому +1

      I have worked in the pet industry for 40 years I was as a vet tech for 12, a volunteer at animal shelters, and have owned my grooming boarding and day care for 23 years. I am sorry but this is poor restraint on an animal. this is unsafe for everyone involved. This is not a good example to be showing people how to do scared or aggressive dogs, furthermore, if the industry would stop using nail cutters and teach pet industry professionals and pet parents how to use a nail grinder with a diamond tip, we would have far less dogs afraid of this procedure.