My RS-M245X, that I've had since new, has the same transport with the same issue. It's sat for over two decades not being used...but now I'll repair it thanks to your video!
I'm not 100% sure, cause the video didn't show a closeup of it, but I think one of the main filter caps, the middle one, vented and is leaking. Nice 80's tapedeck btw. I always liked Technics tapedecks. Cool to see another one.
And I bought two Retekess V115 AM FM SW Pocket radio with MP3 and Recording function One for my cousin and myself after your demo..... great little radio's.... Keep up the gear review's.....
Bad cap alert at 16:33: The middle of the 3 larger blue ones at bottom of board in pic is bulging and appears to just start to be leaking at top. Jacket also stretched a fair amount. Seems like a cool unit - nice work! Good on you for getting the speed well. Perhaps a musician will use the unit and who needs to retune off standard because tape is slow? Blah! I would do it as a kid all the time. And yes, TI 99/4a! I had the voice cartridge expansion.
Well worth repairing :-D , the owner is lucky you are doing the repair. it would not have been a bad deck in it's day or cheap. The solid core cables, a bit of a fiddle, I've seen them in philips equipment. As a kid i used to record off the f.m radio, but my labels were scribbled on the inlay, never neat
Yeah, Technics in early 80s... I was a big fan back in da days... in 1981 i had my first technics amp SU-Z2 and ST-8011 Tuner. Later 808 series (works still fine), SU-V3, RS-M 45, RS-M 260, RS-M250 and othrs.Later i changed to Sony and Yamaha, for better sound quality. But I still got my old Technics devices. For one reason or another.... Greatings from Germany. Oh and mixtapes in 80's.....
That mix tape brought back memories as I did almost exactly the same in the mid 80s. In my case it was a Toshiba MSX and a Star dot matrix printer that cost as much as the computer I think.
I had a few printers. A Roland 9 pin and a sanyo 24 pin. I had a wide carriage printer too. Don't know what happened to them. I remember I sold the 9 pin for huge dollars to a retail store that was desperate for one because their POS software only supported dot matrix and they ran NCR duplicate receipt and kept a paper copy on file of all transactions. Got about 400 for my used printer because at that time there was only one dot matrix available and it was allot more than that.
Well that looked like fun to fix :) I just restored a Sony CFD-5 which has the same tape mech as the CFS-9900 and 9000 from 1985. Bit of a rubiks cube but now playing great :) Only issue is there is a plastic lever that rotates the head for auto reverse and like my CFS-9900 the plastic lever has become brittle and snapped :( Otherwise all other functions work fine. The builtin CD is the same as a Sony D-50 and it plays original CD's fine but has to warm up for over an hour before playing blanks.
Hello, I ran into the same problem, but after replacing the apiary, nothing has changed, so it also rewinds, but the start does not go as it should, what else can be
So what. It is not like it is doing anything other than raising and lowering the head. It is not driving anything as far as tape movement. As long as it lifts and lowers the head all is fine. This motor only runs to raise and lower head and operate FF and rewind. On FF reading the idler freewheels. On play that motor does not spin as the take up idler is driven by the capstan motor. For the capstan flywheel yes belt thickness is important but not for this.
I noticed the small spelling mistake on the tape's index card; not quite sure what Lionel Richie was dancing on there (maybe he'd had just a little too much to drink which is why he was dancing where he was in the first place) - Just saying. LOL. (This comment is NOT to pass judgement, I have to point this out occasionally, as sometimes my comments aren't received in the way they were meant.). Great job on the repair all the same.
@@12voltvids I watched the entire video, starting at: 0:00 through to the end. I do not "skip through" videos. If I am interested enough to click on the video to watch it, then that is what I do, watch the video from start to finish. I am probably just blind... Fred
i did the same i had a rsb-78r deck had problems powered on just frozen wouldn't do nothing something went wrong in the main cpu opened it up crazy super complex machine!!!i couldn't even begin to try and fix anything in that one !!i bought it out of pawnshop for 250 dollars way back in 85 wasn't no guarantees on it as is it work for about 2months then kaputt it died on me !
Asking for a friend? Ok! The first videos I did were on the 2012 Chevy Volt. The first plug in car i bought (and still have) so 12voltvids fit the topic of the day. My other channel technomon has no content as it is a little close to techmoan. I put up a power supply video around Sept 2013 on this channel and forgot about it and it hit 100000 views and UA-cam invited me to join the partner program. So I did a few more repair videos and thought I might be onto something. The name stuck. Tough to change now because it is a UA-cam brand now and who knows could end up a NFT
The first time I looked at mine i just put belt dressing on it. I didn't want to take it apart. It worked for 5 years. I finially took it apart and changed it. This one was a little easier.
So. Not affecting operations. If it blows some day it will be back. It was brought i to change the mechanism control belt and that is what I was paid to replace. I don't change parts that might fail some day. Amateurs do this because they do not understand that 99% of capacitors will never fail. Even if they appear slightly deformed, many looked that way from day 1 because they were deformed by the automated parts placement machine during assembly. Most will never fail.
@@12voltvids Caps fail lots of times on motherboards. Their ESR gets too high. I guess in solid-state consumer audio equipment, old leaky electrolytics aren't such a serious problem. Tube amps are a different story! A leaky couplinng cap can redden the plates of a pair of 6L6's, and saturate or burn up the output xfmr.
@@gyrgrls in tube gear the voltage is high and current very low. the old paper caps and black beauties would go electronically leaky and cause plate voltage to get into grid of next stage and drive tube into satsuration. This is bad. Tube will red plate in extreme case and i have seen them get so hot the glass actually deforms due to air pressure on outside and vacuum inside. Solid state does not have these high vintages that break down the caps. Also most modern stuff is directly coupled anyway. Filter caps in switching power supplies cause many headaches but regular caps not so much.
People are buying old camcorders for the sole purpose of transferring video from old tapes. It seems like people are buying tape decks, but it can't be just for transferring old tapes. Pre-recorded cassettes were terrible quality. Are people still using these things and why?
@@12voltvids Hi Dave.... There are lot of people using cassettes for recording. Mostly 4-track and up to reel to reel for music making especialy Artists making Ambiant or Drone music... Alessandro Cortini from nine inch nails uses 4-tracks live on stage......I have 5 4-Tracks and a Sony TC-377 that had been used by Black Sabbeth for Sound on Sound effects, just had it seviced 3 months ago and it runs great.....
@@12voltvids It's mostly inde artists and those that have a small run of tapes made to sell as souvenirs etc, taking advantage of the "cassette comeback". New tape is being made, no chrome however. Much like vinyl "is back" in regards to it having a niche feel, something extra over the mp3 download from Amazon :D One downside is that a lot of the "comeback" hype is due to them wanting that "cassette" sound, which means they wont be looking to even use Dolby B, let alone anything higher, as they want the tape hiss, mostly because they think thats what tape sounds like. Show them the DBX tape you have there and many would be very surprised. I never had even dolby B when I was a kid. I still have my first cassette album, played it loads. I thought it would sound terrible because of it but I noticed it had the double D logo on it so I tried it recently with my dolby enabled deck. Wow, even dolby B made it sound like it was new (apart from the dropouts where it had been eaten in the past )
@@dlarge6502 dbx made cassette usable. It was the lack of dynamic range and hiss that drove me crazy. Being a musician all that noise just destroyed the experience.
No blown cap. Top might be dented but not affecting operations at this time. Was brought in specifically to change the belt not go fishing. That cap is in the VFD power supply and as you saw the vfd is bright as anything. Not shot now and will be gone for a long time. Even if it blows all that goes out is the display. Since he only uses it to play his dbx tapes to archive them even if the display goes out it. Will work but I am sure it will come back if and when that cap goes south. My rsm275 has the same one that looks the same and it still works.
@@gyrgrls unlikely will ever need changing. Tape deck is just used to transfer some dbx tapes so it won't see much use. Not many people use cassettes these dsys. Only to play old tapes to archive.
@@12voltvids Yes. I have an old Fisher CRW880 dual deck that worked great when it was given to me many moons ago. All I really used it for was to transfer out-of-print albums that were only available on cass or LP to WAV files. Well, it sat in storage for 20 years, and the belts deteriorated. I will probably refurbish it, since there are still a few rare finds on Amazon, Discogs, and in thrift stores that were never released on CD, and a lot of old vinyl is well worn. I have a Technics SL-1200 mark II (MK2) that gets occasional use for some of the better vinyl finds. Other than that, the analog stuff mainly gathers dust.
My RS-M245X, that I've had since new, has the same transport with the same issue. It's sat for over two decades not being used...but now I'll repair it thanks to your video!
Nice machine! I like your choice of music back in the hey day! I used to do the same when cars had cassette and no cd!
That's all I used cassette for. I had a dbx Panasonic stereo in the car. I played it so much I wore the head down to nothing.
@@12voltvids Wow!! You must of had bunch of tapes! I had a lot also! Thanks for the reply!
That looks like a real patience tester !
Love watching you fix things.....................
Great playlist on that tape!!! thanks for you talent and sharing!!!
I made a many mix tapes in my youth.... If being 46 NOW is considered old. I still have some of my mix tapes.
Awesome mix tape!!
I was gonna say, sounds just like the RS-M275X in your other repair video. And also my 275 sound like that, still waiting for some love. Nice save!
I'm not 100% sure, cause the video didn't show a closeup of it, but I think one of the main filter caps, the middle one, vented and is leaking. Nice 80's tapedeck btw. I always liked Technics tapedecks. Cool to see another one.
It didn't.
great video, helped me fix my technics m255x with the same problem
I made many of mix tapes from my extensive collection of 45's back then. Always cool to break open a fresh 4 or 5 pack of Maxell 90's or 100's.
Great mix tape !!
And I bought two Retekess V115 AM FM SW Pocket radio with MP3 and Recording function
One for my cousin and myself after your demo..... great little radio's.... Keep up the gear review's.....
Dashcam review going live tomorrow.
Bad cap alert at 16:33: The middle of the 3 larger blue ones at bottom of board in pic is bulging and appears to just start to be leaking at top. Jacket also stretched a fair amount. Seems like a cool unit - nice work! Good on you for getting the speed well. Perhaps a musician will use the unit and who needs to retune off standard because tape is slow? Blah! I would do it as a kid all the time. And yes, TI 99/4a! I had the voice cartridge expansion.
You are seeing things. Optical illusion.
I was able to service my technics RS-B85 with the help of this video.. same tape mechanism.
Your mixtape was looking for love in all the wrong places, Dave! :)
Cool old deck!!!!!
Nicely done :-)
Well worth repairing :-D , the owner is lucky you are doing the repair.
it would not have been a bad deck in it's day or cheap.
The solid core cables, a bit of a fiddle, I've seen them in philips equipment.
As a kid i used to record off the f.m radio, but my labels were scribbled on the inlay, never neat
Another good job
Watching sir thnx for sharing.. keep safe.
great video. I have this same exact deck. take care
Good work
Yeah, Technics in early 80s... I was a big fan back in da days... in 1981 i had my first technics amp SU-Z2 and ST-8011 Tuner. Later 808 series (works still fine), SU-V3, RS-M 45, RS-M 260, RS-M250 and othrs.Later i changed to Sony and Yamaha, for better sound quality. But I still got my old Technics devices. For one reason or another.... Greatings from Germany. Oh and mixtapes in 80's.....
That mix tape brought back memories as I did almost exactly the same in the mid 80s. In my case it was a Toshiba MSX and a Star dot matrix printer that cost as much as the computer I think.
I had a few printers. A Roland 9 pin and a sanyo 24 pin. I had a wide carriage printer too. Don't know what happened to them. I remember I sold the 9 pin for huge dollars to a retail store that was desperate for one because their POS software only supported dot matrix and they ran NCR duplicate receipt and kept a paper copy on file of all transactions. Got about 400 for my used printer because at that time there was only one dot matrix available and it was allot more than that.
Well this one is mixed as in crossfade between tracks.
That old tape deck must now be *in really good shape* to perfectly play a 35-year-old cassette!!
That tape recorded on my rsm275. Same mechanism just different capstan motor. (275 direct drive)
I don't know about you but i love those Technics decks with DBX...✌️✌️✌️
They were one of the few companies that made dbx work, the other being teac.
@@12voltvids yes i know...i have the Technics RS M233X and M228X
And a Teac V 550X
I love them... especially the DBX feature
Well that looked like fun to fix :) I just restored a Sony CFD-5 which has the same tape mech as the CFS-9900 and 9000 from 1985. Bit of a rubiks cube but now playing great :) Only issue is there is a plastic lever that rotates the head for auto reverse and like my CFS-9900 the plastic lever has become brittle and snapped :( Otherwise all other functions work fine.
The builtin CD is the same as a Sony D-50 and it plays original CD's fine but has to warm up for over an hour before playing blanks.
Hello, I ran into the same problem, but after replacing the apiary, nothing has changed, so it also rewinds, but the start does not go as it should, what else can be
Do you not take belt thickness into play when changing belts? The original one seemed to be much thicker.
So what. It is not like it is doing anything other than raising and lowering the head. It is not driving anything as far as tape movement. As long as it lifts and lowers the head all is fine. This motor only runs to raise and lower head and operate FF and rewind. On FF reading the idler freewheels. On play that motor does not spin as the take up idler is driven by the capstan motor. For the capstan flywheel yes belt thickness is important but not for this.
I noticed the small spelling mistake on the tape's index card; not quite sure what Lionel Richie was dancing on there (maybe he'd had just a little too much to drink which is why he was dancing where he was in the first place) - Just saying. LOL. (This comment is NOT to pass judgement, I have to point this out occasionally, as sometimes my comments aren't received in the way they were meant.). Great job on the repair all the same.
It seems like one of the blue capacitors is swallen a little bit. Can it be?
Optical illusion on camera.
Did you end up replacing the mechanical tape counter belt? I didn't see in the video if you did or not.
Did you skip that part. I know it is in the video.
@@12voltvids I watched the entire video, starting at: 0:00 through to the end. I do not "skip through" videos. If I am interested enough to click on the video to watch it, then that is what I do, watch the video from start to finish. I am probably just blind... Fred
@@electronicengineer look at the 17:13 mark and you will see the counter belt going on.
@@12voltvids Thanks Dave, I rewatched the video and I saw you putting the tape counter belt back on. It is a nice quality repair, BTW. Fred
2:11 doesn’t that filter cap look like it’s bulging and overheated?
Nope
Nice! I think one of the three big electrolytics on the rear of the main board is bulging, also a speck of something on top of it
i did the same i had a rsb-78r deck had problems powered on just frozen wouldn't do nothing something went wrong in the main cpu opened it up crazy super complex machine!!!i couldn't even begin to try and fix anything in that one !!i bought it out of pawnshop for 250 dollars way back in 85 wasn't no guarantees on it as is it work for about 2months then kaputt it died on me !
Hey Dave. How did you come up with the name 12voltvids? Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend? Ok!
The first videos I did were on the 2012 Chevy Volt. The first plug in car i bought (and still have) so 12voltvids fit the topic of the day. My other channel technomon has no content as it is a little close to techmoan.
I put up a power supply video around Sept 2013 on this channel and forgot about it and it hit 100000 views and UA-cam invited me to join the partner program. So I did a few more repair videos and thought I might be onto something. The name stuck. Tough to change now because it is a UA-cam brand now and who knows could end up a NFT
i always scream FCK!!!!FCKFCK!!!! when putting those belts on place
The first time I looked at mine i just put belt dressing on it. I didn't want to take it apart. It worked for 5 years. I finially took it apart and changed it. This one was a little easier.
Nice juicy capstan flywheel. This is how they got their good W&F away from DD.
The m275 is direct drive and has lower WF.
there is a bulging cap there pcb transformer connections side middle one
So. Not affecting operations. If it blows some day it will be back. It was brought i to change the mechanism control belt and that is what I was paid to replace.
I don't change parts that might fail some day. Amateurs do this because they do not understand that 99% of capacitors will never fail. Even if they appear slightly deformed, many looked that way from day 1 because they were deformed by the automated parts placement machine during assembly. Most will never fail.
@@12voltvids Caps fail lots of times on motherboards. Their ESR gets too high. I guess in solid-state consumer audio equipment, old leaky electrolytics aren't such a serious problem. Tube amps are a different story! A leaky couplinng cap can redden the plates of a pair of 6L6's, and saturate or burn up the output xfmr.
@@gyrgrls in tube gear the voltage is high and current very low. the old paper caps and black beauties would go electronically leaky and cause plate voltage to get into grid of next stage and drive tube into satsuration. This is bad. Tube will red plate in extreme case and i have seen them get so hot the glass actually deforms due to air pressure on outside and vacuum inside. Solid state does not have these high vintages that break down the caps. Also most modern stuff is directly coupled anyway. Filter caps in switching power supplies cause many headaches but regular caps not so much.
Only direct drives for me.
Your choices are limited
People are buying old camcorders for the sole purpose of transferring video from old tapes. It seems like people are buying tape decks, but it can't be just for transferring old tapes. Pre-recorded cassettes were terrible quality. Are people still using these things and why?
Nobody is using cassettes to record. At least they shouldn't. Many have old tapes they want to transfer.
@@12voltvids Hi Dave.... There are lot of people using cassettes for recording. Mostly 4-track and up to reel to reel for music making especialy Artists making Ambiant or Drone music... Alessandro Cortini from nine inch nails uses 4-tracks live on stage......I have 5 4-Tracks and a Sony TC-377 that had been used by Black Sabbeth for Sound on Sound effects, just had it seviced 3 months ago and it runs great.....
@@bluebagski none of the musicians i know use tape anymore. Qbass and protools all the way.
@@12voltvids It's mostly inde artists and those that have a small run of tapes made to sell as souvenirs etc, taking advantage of the "cassette comeback". New tape is being made, no chrome however. Much like vinyl "is back" in regards to it having a niche feel, something extra over the mp3 download from Amazon :D
One downside is that a lot of the "comeback" hype is due to them wanting that "cassette" sound, which means they wont be looking to even use Dolby B, let alone anything higher, as they want the tape hiss, mostly because they think thats what tape sounds like. Show them the DBX tape you have there and many would be very surprised.
I never had even dolby B when I was a kid. I still have my first cassette album, played it loads. I thought it would sound terrible because of it but I noticed it had the double D logo on it so I tried it recently with my dolby enabled deck. Wow, even dolby B made it sound like it was new (apart from the dropouts where it had been eaten in the past )
@@dlarge6502 dbx made cassette usable. It was the lack of dynamic range and hiss that drove me crazy. Being a musician all that noise just destroyed the experience.
U fogot to change blown capasitor
No blown cap. Top might be dented but not affecting operations at this time. Was brought in specifically to change the belt not go fishing. That cap is in the VFD power supply and as you saw the vfd is bright as anything. Not shot now and will be gone for a long time. Even if it blows all that goes out is the display. Since he only uses it to play his dbx tapes to archive them even if the display goes out it. Will work but I am sure it will come back if and when that cap goes south. My rsm275 has the same one that looks the same and it still works.
@@12voltvids Tune in later for a recap! :D
@@gyrgrls unlikely will ever need changing. Tape deck is just used to transfer some dbx tapes so it won't see much use. Not many people use cassettes these dsys. Only to play old tapes to archive.
@@12voltvids Yes. I have an old Fisher CRW880 dual deck that worked great when it was given to me many moons ago. All I really used it for was to transfer out-of-print albums that were only available on cass or LP to WAV files. Well, it sat in storage for 20 years, and the belts deteriorated. I will probably refurbish it, since there are still a few rare finds on Amazon, Discogs, and in thrift stores that were never released on CD, and a lot of old vinyl is well worn. I have a Technics SL-1200 mark II (MK2) that gets occasional use for some of the better vinyl finds. Other than that, the analog stuff mainly gathers dust.
@@gyrgrls same here. Analog stuff collecting dust here too.