SoftRAM - The Story of the Incredible RAM Doubling Scam (A Retrospective)

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    Back in 1995, Syncronys Softcorp released a product that had some very outlandish claims. It was known as SoftRAM, and it claimed to "double your memory" through the use of nothing but a software program. But it didn't take long for people to discover what the program actually did: Nothing.
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  • @MichaelMJD
    @MichaelMJD  4 роки тому +3319

    So I learned something interesting about SoftRAM recently and wanted to share it with you all. I got this information from a Microsoft employee who created a utility that fixed a problem with Windows 3.1, where it would display an "out of memory" error when running multiple applications in a Microsoft Exchange environment. This tool was offered to users by Microsoft for free, but the company was not advertising it. He claims that SoftRAM's developers acquired a copy of this tool, reverse engineered it, and then decided to sell it. He said that they came up with the "Double RAM" claim, as if they advertised that it was just a fix for this issue, people could discover that Microsoft offered the tool for free. Because of this, he says that people who installed SoftRAM on Windows 3.1 who had this issue suddenly no longer experienced the problem. And naturally, they believed that SoftRAM solved the problem. The double RAM claim was believable because these users no longer experienced "out of memory" errors, so it appeared like SoftRAM was actually doubling the system's memory. So the software "worked" but not because of any compression or "doubling" of memory by SoftRAM. Windows 95 fixed this issue, so the patch was no longer needed. If this is true, then it makes sense that people initially thought that only the Windows 95 version of SoftRAM didn't do anything. As I discuss in the video, people later discovered that both versions of SoftRAM didn't do what they claimed. Again, this is all coming from a MS employee who developed the fix for Win3.1 systems. Here's some more info about that tool: jeffpar.github.io/kbarchive/kb/157/Q157534/
    As a side note, I'm not saying that all RAM compression tools are scams in this video, just that SoftRAM is. RAM compression is a real thing that many modern operating systems do today.

    • @76horsepower
      @76horsepower 4 роки тому +81

      Michael MJD I actually experienced this. I didn’t buy SoftRAM, but it was installed on a 386 DX2 laptop that was given to me shortly after college. I didn’t understand how it could possibly work, but I could run some games while using SoftRAM that wouldn’t run without it on account of supposed lack of memory.

    • @chouseification
      @chouseification 4 роки тому +79

      This thing was a scam, however there was a utility (RamDoubler?) for Mac in the System 6-7 era that actually did free up RAM. That was only due to the horrible memory model Mac was still using at that point, but here's a shocker for modern viewers who don't know this about old Mac... when you launched an application, you had to set ahead of time (Option+I I thought to open the menu) how much RAM it was allowed to use. There was nothing more annoying on a machine with plenty of RAM to "run out of RAM" in Photoshop doing a scan in the early days where a full page at 600 DPI took a long time, because of that horrible memory model. That program tricked the OS and the apps into their memory I believe, may have even replaced some memory routines - either way, it allowed those apps to work without freaking out. Another thing to remember, when an app crashed, you couldn't close it - you got a "bomb error", requiring a reboot. Doh. :P

    • @ryancoplan4671
      @ryancoplan4671 4 роки тому +31

      That doesn't make total sense as MS Exchange did not come to be until early 1996. I do remember something about MS complaining about the software, and perhaps a lawsuit?
      Also, the reason for the bump in price might have been due to the fire that effectively shut down RAM production worldwide as the resins (trying to remember the 90's here!) became in short supply and RAM went from $10/MB to $40/MB overnight so rather than spending $300+ on some hardware, maybe give the software a try? I was working at Best Buy at the time.

    • @AwesomeBlackDude
      @AwesomeBlackDude 4 роки тому +19

      This kind of remind me of Quarterdeck Expanded Memory Manager (QEMM). But mainly was use for Dos games extended memory optimization. Of course this product actually worked.

    • @mermacyinp633
      @mermacyinp633 3 роки тому +2

      Softram should rerelese the program in Windows 10 version . IF it was cheap and showed caches ,edited virtual ram and yes showed all ram stats which is fricking hard to get free

  • @deanspanos8210
    @deanspanos8210 4 роки тому +10353

    This was a great option as downloading extra ram over the internet was not feasible for most due to slow dial up speed.

    • @EliFleming
      @EliFleming 4 роки тому +61

      Spanos 😂😂😂

    • @npc6817
      @npc6817 4 роки тому +648

      Whatever dude, I just finished downloading my rtx 2800 ti

    • @Josh-zq4no
      @Josh-zq4no 4 роки тому +288

      @@npc6817 lol joke's on you, i just downloaded a brand new PS5 😌

    • @WAncouvOR
      @WAncouvOR 4 роки тому +210

      @@Josh-zq4no lol, what a shmuck, I just finished torrenting my Tesla model s p100d. 😎

    • @Dojoslayer
      @Dojoslayer 4 роки тому +92

      Tony's Pizzeria My brand new life is almost finished downloading

  • @cacomeat7385
    @cacomeat7385 4 роки тому +9018

    You're telling me that they sold "Download More RAM" applications in stores? What a wild time that must have been

    • @Tofu3435
      @Tofu3435 4 роки тому +232

      Fbi open up
      Download more ram website is illegal pirating.

    • @katrinabryce
      @katrinabryce 4 роки тому +72

      Yes, I think there was three of them. Quarterdeck's MagnaRAM was another.

    • @zybch
      @zybch 4 роки тому +122

      @@katrinabryce They weren't scams at all. They did increase the amount of available RAM but at a potential speed cost. Thats why the first ones had physical addin boards with compression processors on them till computer speeds increased enough to do it all in software.
      Most modern OSes use exactly the same kind of system today for hard drive storage (not RAM). Compressing files as they get written to disc, decompressing it when read. And now processors can do this in real time it not only grants additional drive space but even a speed improvement on regular spinning HDDs.

    • @SuperPhunThyme9
      @SuperPhunThyme9 4 роки тому +36

      You could install more speed too.

    • @IvanRiveraStagea
      @IvanRiveraStagea 4 роки тому +82

      @@zybch Quarterdeck MagnaRAM works (actually compresses RAM contents). SoftRAM does not.

  • @MHTutorials3D
    @MHTutorials3D 3 роки тому +2927

    In 1983 I bought a 1MB RAM upgrade for my Sinclair ZX Spectrum for about $ 300. If I bought a 64GB RAM stick today at 1983's prices it would cost $ 19.2 million

    • @Psiki
      @Psiki 3 роки тому +100

      bruh

    • @windowsxp3790
      @windowsxp3790 3 роки тому +111

      Bruh

    • @RobRidleyLive
      @RobRidleyLive 3 роки тому +184

      I bought the original 16kb RAMPACK for the ZX81 in 1982 for 100 UKP, so you got a bargain. 32BG of RAM at that rate would have cost about 20 Billion UKP

    • @MHTutorials3D
      @MHTutorials3D 3 роки тому +89

      @@RobRidleyLive Crazy right ?

    • @alfredvalrie5541
      @alfredvalrie5541 3 роки тому +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny
    @Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny 3 роки тому +752

    The irony being, the program actually REDUCED your available ram by the amount of memory it used.

    • @jazzius
      @jazzius 2 роки тому +9

      Lol yeah

    • @KishoreG2396
      @KishoreG2396 2 роки тому +43

      OR, you can say that it does increase the amount of available RAM... Just in a negative direction 🙃

    • @wohao_gaster7434
      @wohao_gaster7434 2 роки тому +10

      For the people who don't understand, This program is no exception to the fact that all programs running use RAM.

    • @hiimemily
      @hiimemily 2 роки тому +14

      It would be hilarious if it actually _did_ double your RAM... but used up exactly that much while it was running.

    • @Skelath
      @Skelath 5 місяців тому +1

      Ayo so in the early 90s people were making millions by advertising "download more ram".

  • @madastheory
    @madastheory 4 роки тому +4466

    "Big RAM companies HATE this one easy trick!"

    • @ameralhamvi5680
      @ameralhamvi5680 4 роки тому +49

      Today's news outlets, sadly

    • @Raison_d-etre
      @Raison_d-etre 4 роки тому +38

      @@ameralhamvi5680 Thanks to today's news outlets I began preparing for the pandemic by the third week of January. No thanks to the liar-in-chief in the White House.

    • @NSixtyFour
      @NSixtyFour 4 роки тому +67

      *Hardware manufacturers hate him. Guy uses one weird trick to double his ram.*

    • @alexspalding4945
      @alexspalding4945 4 роки тому +13

      A secret big ram companies don’t want you to know

    • @alexspalding4945
      @alexspalding4945 4 роки тому +4

      Reason vote for someone else then and quit complaining

  • @danielwdunn
    @danielwdunn 4 роки тому +2807

    I vividly remember being a kid and hanging out at an Electronics Boutique store in the mall. An older customer approached the checkout counter wanting to buy this and the clerk told him in the most condescending way possible that he shouldn't buy it and that it was a total scam. Old dude just said, "yeah, well I'll take my chances."
    Weird how certain memories stick with you.

    • @tiffanyaa
      @tiffanyaa 4 роки тому +139

      is it really chances when every card is an ace of spades

    • @greatman707
      @greatman707 4 роки тому +119

      Ah, old people

    • @MarsFKA
      @MarsFKA 4 роки тому +260

      @@greatman707 Don't knock us old farts too hard. Some years ago, out of curiosity, I walked into an Apple shop, just to have look around. A bright young man approached and asked if there was anything that I would like to know. I replied, probably not, I have been using Macs since 1986 and just wanted to see what was offering.
      He laughed and said maybe he should be asking *me* questions about the products.

    • @alienxotic5028
      @alienxotic5028 4 роки тому +68

      @@MarsFKA old

    • @heroictesticles6870
      @heroictesticles6870 4 роки тому +77

      @@alienxotic5028 Young virgin pokemon cartoon watcher. Kids really should just only speak when they are spoken to, but the internet allows you to insult your elders without getting a slap round the face. You must love the internet.

  • @Ferdam
    @Ferdam 2 роки тому +618

    Damn, I've gotta tell my father about this... because he is still amazed, to this day, by how he recalls of a program that could double memory back in the day.
    I think that after 25 long years, the old man deserves to know the truth :)

    • @kashmirwillwin3124
      @kashmirwillwin3124 2 роки тому +68

      Don't do it. Don't crush an old man's good memories

    • @UZI9MMAUTO
      @UZI9MMAUTO 2 роки тому +42

      Trust me. 25 years is a long time. But it gets here FAST! The older you do get. The faster time goes. Remember when you were young and a day was a long, long time? It starts to go as fast as it was slow. It's terrifying!

    • @UZI9MMAUTO
      @UZI9MMAUTO 2 роки тому +2

      @@asbestosfibers1325 that's basically what I said or Maybe did poorly. There's a region in our brain. Time flys as we get older. I read up.on it. I don't have the technical terms down. But yes. Tortures go on - on -on. Like me sitting for jury duty. But overall time perception. Time goes Soo fast from 16 till now. It sucks. But as you get older. Stress isn't tolerated much. This is where biology comes in. So we don't have a heart Attack in scenarios. That's the theory by scientists anyways.

    • @UZI9MMAUTO
      @UZI9MMAUTO 2 роки тому +1

      @@creamwobbly lol. I bet. Sounds as blissful as being extracted from a mountain top with a broken leg. It's BIOLOGICAL & backed science. Our PERCEPTION (I didn't think I had to crayon it) of time goes fast. You may not realize it now. Why I live by one rule. To bed by ,830pm & up by ,5am. 7 days a week. Days go so much longer then. You can't fight the imminent

    • @flyingdragon6275
      @flyingdragon6275 2 роки тому +3

      @@kashmirwillwin3124 First tell Kashmiris to stop attacking Army and to stop ter0rism

  • @bcubed72
    @bcubed72 2 роки тому +290

    I remember a company that would "double the capacity of your floppy disk!"
    What it was, was a hole punch. That let you run single-sided floppies as double-sided. Of course, the reason they were single sided in the first place was they had sector flaws on the other side...

    • @nomadik7
      @nomadik7 2 роки тому +28

      Ah the good old Commodore 64 days and hole punching floppies to make them double-sided :)

    • @robinstewart6510
      @robinstewart6510 2 роки тому +34

      Companies didn't have time to check each disk for bad sectors. They pumped out thousands each day. At one time, I had hundreds of modified single-sided disks, testing each for bad sectors, with no problems whatsoever. When it came to the actual disks themselves, the only difference between single-sided and double-sided was marketing.

    • @KenjiUmino
      @KenjiUmino 2 роки тому +8

      yeah, the hole punch ... you could get lucky and have a floppy that was good on both sides, but you also could lose data ... but then again, that could also happen any time with un-modified floppy disks (any storage media, really)
      ... and then there was DriveSpace/DoubleSpace and similar software wich actualy DID what it said it would do - compress the whole disk so you could store more stuff on it

  • @macseagle5968
    @macseagle5968 4 роки тому +1670

    In 1995, I needed a larger monitor so I purchased a software package to make my screen bigger.
    When I opened the packaging there was only a note that said "Sit closer to your screen, dummy".

    • @kinga4438
      @kinga4438 4 роки тому +143

      oof size: large

    • @JaimeWarlock
      @JaimeWarlock 4 роки тому +84

      There was a product that did that back then. It was a large flat plastic lens that you put in front of your monitor.

    • @shieldde6209
      @shieldde6209 4 роки тому +35

      @@JaimeWarlock but it reduces the quality of the images shown

    • @unorevers7160
      @unorevers7160 4 роки тому +15

      And did it work?
      Where can I buy the extention pack?

    • @JaimeWarlock
      @JaimeWarlock 4 роки тому +32

      @@shieldde6209 Absolutely, it looked like shit, plus you had to sit directly in front of it.

  • @MatheusPratta
    @MatheusPratta 4 роки тому +1715

    SoftRAM: * requires 4MB of RAM *
    Me: * proceeds installing it on 2MB of RAM since it will double it *

  • @MichoOussama
    @MichoOussama 2 роки тому +39

    My girlfriend brought me her laptop that was too slow (4Gb of RAM), so I had some ram laying around and told her I'd upgrade it. Turns out the laptop had a worn out screw and I couldnt even take it apart so I gave it back to her the way it was. A week later her brother thanked me for fixing it as now it runs faster. Damn.

  • @purplesam2609
    @purplesam2609 3 роки тому +316

    My highschool downloaded something like this and installed it on every Mac in the computer lab. Those things chugged HARD. A year later they replaced every single Mac.

    • @sheriffaboubakar9720
      @sheriffaboubakar9720 3 роки тому +62

      Lmao what a shit IT team

    • @normalspongey
      @normalspongey 3 роки тому +36

      @@sheriffaboubakar9720 they shouldnt have hired the dude who installed it on the macs... seriously. my friend knew that when he was 8 years old

    • @sierrachief117
      @sierrachief117 3 роки тому +10

      They got what they deserved. Fried all Macs because of some software.

    • @kidthorazine
      @kidthorazine 3 роки тому +30

      In fairness, older macs didn't actually have virtual memory built in so this sort of product was legitimately useful. The downside is if it wasn't set up properly it would kill your HDD in a relatively short amount of time.

    • @playboy-music
      @playboy-music 3 роки тому +9

      @@sheriffaboubakar9720 every school IT team is a shit IT team lol

  • @sweettalkinghippie
    @sweettalkinghippie 3 роки тому +798

    Ah, the placebo effect. Around 1998/1999 I was doing IT for a bank. When users would complain that their computer was slow we would go into the registry and change the delay for when a start menu would expand after hovering over it. They were amazed how much faster their computer was. :)

    • @Tatsh2DX
      @Tatsh2DX 3 роки тому +133

      That delay shouldn't have been so large. It was very annoying.

    • @Sphere723
      @Sphere723 3 роки тому +192

      It's a well known practice in the Heating/Venting/AC design of office buildings to install dummy thermostats for employees to be able to adjust without actually doing anything. It reduces complaints more than installing an actual thermostat.

    • @michaelepica3564
      @michaelepica3564 3 роки тому +5

      woooooow

    • @grootsyt
      @grootsyt 3 роки тому +29

      tbf, that actually changed something

    • @rmdhn1
      @rmdhn1 2 роки тому +1

      @@Sphere723 wait whaet

  • @budyeddi5814
    @budyeddi5814 4 роки тому +573

    "Imagine 4mb becomes 8mb"
    Key word, *imagine*

    • @tomlxyz
      @tomlxyz 4 роки тому +3

      @Maintenance Renegade technically you don't need to have two identical byte sets to have two copies (e.g. copy on write)

    • @hackwrench5583
      @hackwrench5583 3 роки тому +3

      @Maintenance Renegade I can help you with that. One copy of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 for the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive is 1MB. Now Sonic the Hedgehog 2 for the Master System/Game Gear is 512KB or ½MB. Therefore two copies of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 can fit into 1MB

    • @haseenabadshah5381
      @haseenabadshah5381 3 роки тому +1

      404 likes,comment not found

    • @budyeddi5814
      @budyeddi5814 3 роки тому

      Wow THX guys😂😂😂

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 3 роки тому

      🌈 imagine

  • @QuinctiliusVarus
    @QuinctiliusVarus 3 роки тому +670

    I remember this product. My wife bought it for her computer. She told me that it was just as ineffective as the soft ram that I gave her the night before.

    • @user-hx7cc8us5v
      @user-hx7cc8us5v 2 роки тому +88

      A self roast, those are rare

    • @mal2ksc
      @mal2ksc 2 роки тому +74

      At least she didn't pay $79.95 for your soft ram.

    • @Kazimx0786
      @Kazimx0786 2 роки тому +36

      Your wife talks too much should've put your floppy disk into her Hotmail.

    • @michaelskyland4267
      @michaelskyland4267 2 роки тому +3

      That was SO lame.

    • @Xuepreme69
      @Xuepreme69 2 роки тому +13

      Oh so your wife rather have double ram in her motherboard. 😉

  • @maxbrazil3712
    @maxbrazil3712 3 роки тому +93

    I remember when I got my first computer hard drive. I thought "I'll never fill up this 20mb beast!"

    • @robinstewart6510
      @robinstewart6510 2 роки тому +12

      You probably never did fill up that 20mbs with the computers and software back then. I certainly didn't. But, computers changed, programs changed, and storage space demands increased.

    • @DJ_Force
      @DJ_Force 2 роки тому +5

      @@robinstewart6510 Yeah. What were you going to fill it up with? Your collection of 320x200 16 color pictures? Your entire library of midi files? Maybe that massive database of contacts for your rotary phone, or all those recipes?

    • @robinstewart6510
      @robinstewart6510 2 роки тому +7

      ​@@DJ_Force .. Lol. While it would have been difficult to fill it at the time, lets not be too quick to dismiss those early hard drives. They were the future (even if most weren't convinced of it at the time), allowing us to go from multiple floppy disks for programs and files to a single hard drive containing everything, and also allowing for larger, more complex, programs that couldn't fit on a single floppy disk.
      Business users also benefited. I setup a database for Oshkosh Trucks which allowed them to track and schedule the maintenance and service of their vehicles used by our Army & Air Force in Europe, which I very quickly transferred to a hard drive. Just a short time earlier, that would have required the storage capability of an expensive minicomputer rather than an inexpensive microcomputer.
      By the way, I had a fairly large collection of public domain programs back then (programming ideas and samples) that would have easily filled several of those 20mb hard drives. However, since all that was already sorted based on those floppies and wasn't used often, I never did put those on a hard drive.

    • @Bagel_Le_Stinky
      @Bagel_Le_Stinky 2 роки тому +4

      back then, I would fill that up in a whiile. Now it takes like 1 second

    • @robinstewart6510
      @robinstewart6510 2 роки тому

      One more thing. Lets not forget copy-protection was a major hurdle for early hard drives. Nearly all games and many other programs came on copy-protected floppies (later CD's) that prevented transfer to a hard drive. It took many years to find reliable solutions to defeat copy-protection. Indeed, the battle still rages today.

  • @TedSchoenling
    @TedSchoenling 3 роки тому +2360

    I had a pirated version of this when in college, I didn't see any changes and guess what, I got what I paid for ;)

    • @PennyHerbst
      @PennyHerbst 3 роки тому +122

      Nothing? 🤣That joke is awesome, I have to note it down

    • @sheriff332
      @sheriff332 3 роки тому +8

      Underrated

    • @elephant_888
      @elephant_888 3 роки тому +20

      You absolutely did! 😂

    • @GoatStormChaser
      @GoatStormChaser 3 роки тому +1

      Lmao good one!

    • @zyme5998
      @zyme5998 3 роки тому +16

      lol, I eventually tried it for free this way too, Funny thing is years earlier I'd tried doing exactly what it did, increasing virtual memory settings in Windows 3.1 (I'd had a copy of Doom for years but not enough RAM to try it) so I can see where the actually implemented idea came from, and thought to myself that it might actually be effective for native windows apps, but didn't have a way to test that...

  • @MudkipOnYT
    @MudkipOnYT 4 роки тому +2165

    This is like what DownloadMoreRAM evolved from

    • @dgjm7129
      @dgjm7129 4 роки тому +39

      Yeah but it cost something

    • @MiiMaker
      @MiiMaker 4 роки тому +34

      How to increase your RAM
      get an ssd and use it as a SWAP memory.

    • @kekkodance
      @kekkodance 4 роки тому +115

      @@MiiMaker instead of buying an ssd buy more. fucking. ram.

    • @js62926
      @js62926 4 роки тому +8

      buy a usb and store your apps on there

    • @gbles1457
      @gbles1457 4 роки тому +5

      Mii Maker xD

  • @goneutt
    @goneutt 2 роки тому +75

    Ah, the good old days when ten whole computers could be made from the resources required by Chrome on a blank page.

    • @KaranSingh-jr2eu
      @KaranSingh-jr2eu 2 роки тому +22

      imagine telling someone back then that a browser is gonna consume 1 gb of ram for 5 tabs

    • @HerecomestheCalavera
      @HerecomestheCalavera 2 роки тому +20

      @@KaranSingh-jr2eu They'd say "what is a tab?"

  • @thebritishindian1
    @thebritishindian1 2 роки тому +28

    Thanks so much for making this video! When I was a young kid at school using my first ever PC at home, I always wondered if Soft RAM really worked. Even my young self thought something about the software was very fishy, and you finally helped me to put this situation to rest!

  • @RocketGlizzy
    @RocketGlizzy 4 роки тому +1120

    Jokes on them i bought 2 of them to quadruple my ram

    • @KaiHowells
      @KaiHowells 4 роки тому +77

      Jokes on you mate, I ran it twice on my PC.

    • @ghostontoast1017
      @ghostontoast1017 3 роки тому +8

      Jokes on you mofos i'm the one who fucking found soft ram.

    • @jessierosenqueen5644
      @jessierosenqueen5644 3 роки тому +9

      Jokes on you i actually replaced my ram with those disk

    • @DatamalDraws
      @DatamalDraws 3 роки тому +1

      Kai Howells I used it hhhhhhhhhiuhjbhgvhhgjhnjbvnhvjk *glitched sounds* times :D

    • @Adzinth
      @Adzinth 3 роки тому +3

      OkImDramatic you aren’t funny

  • @allthingsgaming6
    @allthingsgaming6 3 роки тому +1731

    Ahh yes... SoftRAM... one of the many products released over the years to target the “I don’t know how a computer works” market

    • @JoePolvino
      @JoePolvino 3 роки тому +60

      At the time, installing RAM was expensive and people didn't have resources like Reddit or any other internet tool. Yahoo was almost unknown. The idea of buying software was low risk.

    • @vcvortex6356
      @vcvortex6356 3 роки тому +9

      @@JoePolvino Books existed.

    • @vcvortex6356
      @vcvortex6356 3 роки тому +8

      @@digibluh I don't know where you are from, but my city has several branches of libraries. They most certainly had (and still have) a technology department that had books with detailed information about computers and how they work.

    • @MrBeetsGaming
      @MrBeetsGaming 3 роки тому +42

      @@vcvortex6356 Wtf is your point?

    • @vcvortex6356
      @vcvortex6356 3 роки тому +11

      @@MrBeetsGaming My point is that Joe Polvino insinuated that people did not have access to learn about computers by going to the library pre-internet, and we certainly did. Do you need a reading comprehension course?

  • @bchristian85
    @bchristian85 3 роки тому +7

    I think one reason they were able to sell this is because hard drive compression programs like Windows DriveSpace and Stacker were popular around that time. Someone who doesn't know a lot of about computers might think "if I can double my hard drive space why can't I double my ram?"

    • @trisiegt
      @trisiegt 2 роки тому

      It's not worthless, simply put it into a DOS days machine.

  • @keychain3554
    @keychain3554 3 роки тому +31

    Nice to know that “download more ram” has long history dating back to the 90s

  • @KingPopinLockin
    @KingPopinLockin 4 роки тому +532

    I remember back in high school when my friend and I were led to believe that all USB sticks had the same storage space and the corporations were selling them with the space locked off so they could sell the same thing for higher and higher prices. We thought that because we saw people doing something that would increase the storage. We finally did it and all you're doing is making the device tell your computer it has more space. I dumped all my music onto a 4GB stick and then didn't understand why all my files wouldn't play or were corrupt.

    • @MechWarrior894
      @MechWarrior894 4 роки тому +56

      I remember my teacher telling me we could use USB sticks for ram and while it wasn't entirely false, you were better off getting actual sticks

    • @HyperOpticalSaint
      @HyperOpticalSaint 4 роки тому +28

      @@MechWarrior894 Now, that's not only approved by Microsoft, but it was implemented by them for Vista. I still remember everyone hating on Vista... I am fine since I had quad core i7 and 12gb tri channel ddr3, but all these people with slow dual core and 2-4gb ram really hated vista.

    • @alexanderthomas2660
      @alexanderthomas2660 4 роки тому +21

      Several years ago a friend found this really good deal for 32GB ‘Kingston’ USB sticks for an unbelievably cheap price. We suspected that it was a scam, but it was so cheap that we tried it anyway. Of course these proved to be fakes. It were 4GB sticks with their controller reprogrammed to make it believe that it was connected to a 32GB chip. The weird thing was that on the outside they all looked the same (a bad copy of a real Kingston design), but on the inside they were all different. I did manage to reprogram mine back to its correct capacity.

    • @spacemeter3001
      @spacemeter3001 4 роки тому +16

      Actually that's exactly the case. Sometimes it's more expensive to make two production lines instead of just to lock off additional storage and sell it for different prices.

    • @JotaC
      @JotaC 4 роки тому +10

      @@alexanderthomas2660 you got lucky that it was 4gb, which is a decent amount of space. Once I spent around $20 for a 32gb stick which was fake and only supported around 1gb of files.

  • @memes_haram
    @memes_haram 3 роки тому +147

    “A gigabyte of ram should be enough”

    • @xuimod
      @xuimod 2 роки тому +3

      Ikr not even a TB of RAM is enough.

    • @NonJohns
      @NonJohns 2 роки тому +7

      I'm in.

    • @minhaankhan5072
      @minhaankhan5072 2 роки тому +5

      I understood that reference

    • @JackAndersMusic
      @JackAndersMusic 2 роки тому +5

      “We’re in”

    • @JohnS-il1dr
      @JohnS-il1dr 2 роки тому +2

      Mr vaccine himself Mr Gates must be embarrassed making that statement

  • @acactusnamedjosh708
    @acactusnamedjosh708 3 роки тому +32

    Me:"Hm, a program that somehow gives you more ram via software? how could this work? compression?"
    MJD: "it was a total scam"
    Me: "oh, i guess that makes sense"

  • @derekkonigsberg2047
    @derekkonigsberg2047 4 роки тому +317

    Around the mid 90's, RAM was so obscenely expensive and often the priciest part of the entire computer. With that in mind, the temptation of things like this becomes much easier to grasp.

    • @420GratefulHippie
      @420GratefulHippie 4 роки тому +36

      Exactly!
      And most likely you would have to buy a new motherboard since your RAM was already max out on it, so now add the cost of a new motherboard which back then would cost $300-$400 in addition to the new RAM.
      Computers were the latest rage in the '90's and the were pretty costly and the promise of this RAM alternative was easy to get suckered in by. It happened to me. I admit it. I was a poor 20 something that was short on cash.

    • @xenxander
      @xenxander 4 роки тому +2

      Actually I think the monitor was the most expensive part of your PC.
      One CRD monitor of decent size, like say 22 or 24 inches, cost upwards of $400 or more!

    • @houstonhelicoptertours1006
      @houstonhelicoptertours1006 4 роки тому +8

      Luckily the prices began to drop significantly by early 1996. By mid 1998 it was no longer financially ruinous to stick 1 GB in a (for example) Windows NT workstation.

    • @johnps1670
      @johnps1670 4 роки тому

      The same as in the 70's and 80's.

    • @derekkonigsberg2047
      @derekkonigsberg2047 4 роки тому +3

      @@xenxander Yeah, that much would probably have bought you 4MB of RAM at retail pricing. Probably more if you ordered. (Yeah, back then, the difference between "retail" and "mail order" prices for components was enormous. Far bigger than it is today.)

  • @stuartgrier5605
    @stuartgrier5605 4 роки тому +151

    I remember this SoftRAM software. During my first ever job after leaving university I was an IT tech at a Further Education College in Scotland. My boss showed me this and said It sounded good. He gave me a copy to put on the IT tech PC - running Windows 95.
    It took literally 25 seconds to install. I was very against it, as I could see no way how it would work. I wrote my report and gave it to my boss, he said he had purchased 100 copies of it. - for the PC's in the Computer Studies Department.
    I was told to install it on a lab of 25 machines. This was typical of the college, wasting money.
    I left in 1998 for a new job, when I was tidying out m desk I found 100 disks of this sitting under a pile of A4 paper.

    • @n1k32h
      @n1k32h 3 роки тому +8

      Waste. Should of installed it. It actually worked

    • @fran5678can
      @fran5678can 3 роки тому +17

      @@n1k32h it was a reverse engineer for a win 3.1 fix MS made for free(not advertised/promoted)

    • @jamegumb7298
      @jamegumb7298 3 роки тому

      @@fran5678can Yes but he said 98 that means Windows 98 was out, and the app only performed badly on Win95.
      Think about it.

    • @nightstar3765
      @nightstar3765 2 роки тому

      Bullshit...I think someone is trying too hard.

  • @Klffsj
    @Klffsj 3 роки тому +26

    "Placebo software"
    Reminds me of certain Windows features...

    • @sierrachief117
      @sierrachief117 3 роки тому

      Name any.

    • @Klffsj
      @Klffsj 3 роки тому

      @@sierrachief117 Admittedly, I don't remember any. They're all small things that Windows advertises but don't actually function correctly, if at all-usually not very important. Between that and the fact that I don't use Windows as much as I used to (after getting frustrated with how slow, irritating, and high-maintenance it is, I switched to Mac, and I'll soon be switching to Linux), nothing specific comes to mind.
      Even if I'm wrong, though, it's still a fun jab at the buggiest OS I know...

    • @sierrachief117
      @sierrachief117 3 роки тому +1

      @@Klffsj they've improved with windows 10 leaps and bounds. I agree macOS is better. It is there is no doubt about that. But windows is fast catching up. Only thing that is buggy today in windows is the update client.

    • @Klffsj
      @Klffsj 3 роки тому

      @@sierrachief117 I disagree with that. I still use Windows 10 for work, but I don't play around with settings or customization like I would on a personal laptop a few years ago. Anyway, at the moment I've got a bug where I can't open Action Center. Rebooting fixes the problem temporarily, but it comes back. Admittedly, I haven't updated recently, but what problems could that cause?
      Windows has a long ways to go. It's using an outdated and confusing architecture, and the more they "fix" things, the messier it gets. Microsoft would be wise to make a new OS from scratch, not merely forking the previous version of Windows...

    • @MultiCool55
      @MultiCool55 3 роки тому

      @@Klffsj Well, at least Microsoft isn't doing away with 32-bit support like Apple is.

  • @olanmills64
    @olanmills64 2 роки тому +62

    As a software developer, I can't imagine writing something to deliberately deceive your customers like this.
    The leadership at the company responsible for this should have gone to jail.

    • @MosesMatsepane
      @MosesMatsepane 2 роки тому +22

      Modern version of this is "PC Cleaning" software.

    • @NicholasNRG
      @NicholasNRG 2 роки тому

      @@MosesMatsepane elaborate please

    • @aetheryex
      @aetheryex Рік тому +2

      @@NicholasNRG ("PC cleaning" software is basically useless and usually asks you to pay for it)

    • @NHY6CK
      @NHY6CK Рік тому

      @@MosesMatsepane literally

  • @HeylonNHP
    @HeylonNHP 4 роки тому +797

    Zram on linux can quite literally double your ram through memory compression, but it comes at the cost of CPU cycles
    There's no free lunches

    • @kernelpanic9373
      @kernelpanic9373 4 роки тому +68

      Windows 10 has this built in as well. I'm guessing you're not going to get 50% compression on most things though?

    • @BrendonGreenNZL
      @BrendonGreenNZL 4 роки тому +93

      @@kernelpanic9373 Memory compression actually tends to work quite well. Unpacked data can have a lot of redundancy, and most software doesn't actually use all the memory it allocates; a significant portion of it is wasted in tiny bits of slack space that is either there to align the data for efficient consumption or reserved for the storage of future data that is never generated.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 4 роки тому +32

      @@kernelpanic9373 if you're mostly having browser tabs you can get a 50% increase (not a 100% like SoftRAM claimed), such as from 16 to 24 GB, with all those redundant bits in sandboxed pages and stuff I guess? Or JS bloat?

    • @HeylonNHP
      @HeylonNHP 4 роки тому +46

      @@kaitlyn__L Zram on linux can do 2:1 compression, often more, i.e doubling the RAM capacity. It generally compresses a decent amount better than what windows 10 offers but is slow by comparison. I've seen memory compression ratios as high as 10:1 in my daily usage. If you're insane, using the zstd algorithm in zram is an option on newer kernels, which provides even better compression but is even slower.

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 4 роки тому +21

      @@kaitlyn__L :
      That might be useful. I use Linux Mint and Kubuntu. On both systems, Firefox is a RAM hog. It just leaks memory until I hit the swap file. I only had 10 tabs open. When it hits the swap file, the system dies. Can't move the mouse anymore. I am forced to press PWR button.
      So, I switched to a system with more RAM. I use to have 4 GB, now I have 8 GB.
      It uses somewhere from 5 GB to 6.5 GB. That is fucking incredible.

  • @JGSuttonJr
    @JGSuttonJr 4 роки тому +357

    This is like putting more expensive gas in your car to get more passenger seats.

    • @user-bl6ep5bm1j
      @user-bl6ep5bm1j 3 роки тому +15

      Except gas would at least do something useful

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 3 роки тому +13

      Урал лучший город yeah farting makes my belly feel better

    • @20roly
      @20roly 3 роки тому +1

      Ha ha ha

    • @PhotoshopArt
      @PhotoshopArt 3 роки тому +1

      Where to buy that gas?

    • @braaaptv6028
      @braaaptv6028 3 роки тому +1

      What? This doesn’t work getting additional seats?!

  • @ViralKiller
    @ViralKiller 2 роки тому +83

    Yeah these infact slowed the computer down some more...

    • @scotty209
      @scotty209 2 роки тому

      TRUE

    • @robinstewart6510
      @robinstewart6510 2 роки тому +2

      Only when switching between programs stored in virtual memory. Once a program was back in actual memory, there was no noticeable change in performance. Even games performed as they should.

    • @wohao_gaster7434
      @wohao_gaster7434 2 роки тому

      For the people who don't understand, This program is no exception to the fact that all programs running use RAM.

    • @robinstewart6510
      @robinstewart6510 2 роки тому

      @@wohao_gaster7434 .. Exactly. As I suggested, these programs operated by moving running programs in and out of RAM, with the program currently being used in active RAM and other running programs not used at the moment temporarily stored on a hard drive or a RAM disk.
      If done right, it gave the illusion of multiple programs running at the same time. You could quickly switch back and forth between the programs, copy & paste between them, and so on. Later versions even allowed the windows of the various programs to remain on the screen, and for small portions of the inactive programs to remain running in active RAM (processing data, etc).
      Most 16-bit (and some 8-bit) operating systems ultimately used this technique (killing third-party options like SoftRAM). However, changes in hardware (processors, etc) eventually eliminated the need for such software trickery, allowing multiple programs to actually fully run in RAM at the same time.

  • @k.baller5140
    @k.baller5140 2 роки тому +22

    That whole gauge looks exactly like when we want to overclock the graphics card. My ATI Radeon 9700 Pro can turn into RTX 3070 with Synchronys new SoftGPU. It works great for me. I believe the company turned things around now

  • @shirow7677
    @shirow7677 4 роки тому +148

    This takes the "download more ram" joke to a whole different level

    • @atharvaprabhu7467
      @atharvaprabhu7467 3 роки тому +8

      where do you think the joke started from

    • @Spelter
      @Spelter 3 роки тому +4

      @@atharvaprabhu7467 true, and my 10 year old me was furious that the pc got even more unstable with the ram doubler 🤣
      Wild times indeed

    • @shondellcelestine3315
      @shondellcelestine3315 3 роки тому

      Lol

  • @user-xr3rb6pn9m
    @user-xr3rb6pn9m 4 роки тому +515

    Wow... It probably took them a couple of hours to make the GUI in VisualBasic and then they started to sell it at 80 bucks a piece.

    • @BilisNegra
      @BilisNegra 4 роки тому +9

      Yep. Great comment.

    • @b3ans4eva
      @b3ans4eva 4 роки тому +49

      And the developer went to work for CSI NY.

    • @davidmartensson273
      @davidmartensson273 4 роки тому +13

      That would be for the images and gauges then (unless they bought those which is more likely), the rest should take less than 10 minutes.

    • @quad7375
      @quad7375 4 роки тому +2

      @@b3ans4eva yep. the gauge actually tracks ip addresses

    • @420GratefulHippie
      @420GratefulHippie 4 роки тому +6

      @@quad7375 Since everyone was on dial-up back then, there were no individual ip address since you would've been sharing a dial-up node with dozens of other subscribers to your ISP.

  • @GameOfDepth
    @GameOfDepth 3 роки тому +80

    I feel no guilt for Pirating this software back in my BBS days.

    • @ekklesiast
      @ekklesiast 2 роки тому +4

      why would you waste your time on this?

    • @JamesDavidWalley
      @JamesDavidWalley 2 роки тому +5

      As opposed to feeling _really_ guilty for all the other things you pirated? Mkay...

    • @CollyDoo
      @CollyDoo 2 роки тому

      We had a very strong Citadel86 community in my city from 89 to about 95.

    • @hulksmash8159
      @hulksmash8159 2 роки тому

      @@JamesDavidWalley Don't copy that floppy!!

    • @princesssprinklesthecat4192
      @princesssprinklesthecat4192 2 роки тому +2

      I pirate everything.

  • @numbnutz9398
    @numbnutz9398 3 роки тому +44

    Wow! The good ol' days when scammers had to produce a product and take out ads at the back of computer magazines to target victims. Kids these days don't know how easy they have it.

  • @leurper
    @leurper 3 роки тому +519

    I want a SoftRam T-Shirt now

    • @averagerobloxsimp
      @averagerobloxsimp 3 роки тому +8

      k

    • @TylerWadleigh
      @TylerWadleigh 3 роки тому +9

      Swear to god if I ever come across one I’m gonna buy it for any amount of money lol

    • @tankerock
      @tankerock 3 роки тому +12

      @@TylerWadleigh $15 and print your own. I doubt you'll run into any copyright issues.

    • @TylerWadleigh
      @TylerWadleigh 3 роки тому +7

      @@tankerock I’m gonna have to find a reference photo tho 😂 I gotta look but otherwise you’re right

    • @minecraftify95
      @minecraftify95 2 роки тому

      *RAM

  • @petrikokko1441
    @petrikokko1441 4 роки тому +86

    I knew a guy who bought that against my advice. A week later he threw it out and bought some RAM modules instead.
    We never talked about it again.

    • @the_omg3242
      @the_omg3242 4 роки тому +8

      I remember a friend talking about this program way back then. Even without knowing anything about it I kept trying to explain that even with compression it wouldn't be double and it would slow the machine down while it compressed memory.
      He was still a big fan of it and used his pirated copy for a while. I didn't want it even for free since it sounded like a scam even back then.

    • @petrikokko1441
      @petrikokko1441 4 роки тому +3

      @@the_omg3242 Much like my experience and the memory speed loss due to compression would be negligible but it was just too good to be true.
      I guess we got the last laugh.

    • @Kado_Tornado
      @Kado_Tornado 4 роки тому +2

      Jeff Holinski why couldn’t it be double with compression? Maybe not practically - especially at the time - and of course the product was BS but theoretically you could halve the size just like you can get 50% or lower compression ratio when compressing a file.

    • @-_._-_._-_._-_._-_._-
      @-_._-_._-_._-_._-_._- 4 роки тому +2

      @@Kado_Tornado but then you have to uncompress it anyways no?

    • @Kado_Tornado
      @Kado_Tornado 4 роки тому +1

      ‍ ‍ So? My point is if you apply 50% compression to anything that you want to put into RAM, you effectively double your RAM just like this product claimed. Compress as it goes in and uncompress as it comes out. If, theoretically, all your programs could uncompress on-demand, it all works. I realize that as a practical matter, there’s no way all the added processing would result in an overall performance increase. I also realize that applications would have to store the uncompressed version of the data somewhere other than RAM. Maybe that is where the “it won’t be double” comes from. But if you have an extremely high compression, it’s RAM to RAM operations instead of having to load from the hard drive, so you can still theoretically achieve this.

  • @sprthrwwychnnl73
    @sprthrwwychnnl73 3 роки тому +2

    I used to use RAM Doubler on the Mac back in the ‘90s. It claimed to use free hard disk space as RAM, but it wasn’t unlimited it would only “double” the physical RAM you had installed. It did work, you could open more programs because it somehow tricked the system into thinking it had more RAM to work with, but things ran slower compared to actually having more physical RAM installed in the computer.

  • @scheimong
    @scheimong 2 роки тому +7

    You know it's a scam whenever it tells you "congratulations for your purchase" rather than "thank you"

  • @ProtoMario
    @ProtoMario 3 роки тому +902

    But what if I installed it twice? DOUBLE DOUBLE the ram 🤣🤣🤣

    • @bearzdlc2172
      @bearzdlc2172 3 роки тому +40

      You’re computer will explode from all the power :/

    • @run1492
      @run1492 3 роки тому +21

      Hahaha quantum computer in the 90s

    • @javidturabor4449
      @javidturabor4449 3 роки тому +1

      Millenian question u asked sir 😅👍🏼

    • @PlanetComputer
      @PlanetComputer 3 роки тому +2

      @hwhehe hehehe says the one with the big chungus pfp

    • @ultimatum97
      @ultimatum97 3 роки тому +2

      That's the secret !

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy 4 роки тому +2032

    So it was like homeopathic medicine for computers! Yeah, I actually remember this along with "RAM Doubler" and I knew they were bunk at the time.

    • @MichaelMJD
      @MichaelMJD  4 роки тому +186

      Yeah it just ended up being a total scam. I actually did a bit of research into RAM Doubler, and apparently people say that it performed memory compression. But obviously it didn't "double" the physical RAM in your Mac. I never used it though. Love your videos by the way! : )

    • @tralphstreet
      @tralphstreet 4 роки тому +23

      At least a placebo for humans makes more sense... Even if they don't tell you that's all it is.

    • @quarantinecompute
      @quarantinecompute 4 роки тому +8

      The 8-Bit Guy hey

    • @memmoman
      @memmoman 4 роки тому +6

      Download More RAM!

    • @McVaio
      @McVaio 4 роки тому +31

      RAM Doubler was different and it actually worked. That is because the Mac always reserved a fixed amount of RAM for each application. RAM Doubler freed up the unused portions.

  • @kevinkatz7027
    @kevinkatz7027 2 роки тому +5

    Right before Windows 95 came out there had been a ram shortage due to a manufacturing plant fire or some such and I remember paying $1000 for 16 megs.... If I remember right, I think less than a month later the prices were down to a couple hundred dollars... I still have that ram, it's worthless now, but still a memento of an exciting time...

  • @angelo-7533
    @angelo-7533 3 роки тому +7

    I remember using a software that could format 1,44MB floppy disk into 1,6MB. It worked actually. in the past, it meant so much!

    • @cassianomartin2699
      @cassianomartin2699 8 місяців тому

      Yeah, I've used this tool a lot. It was called VGACopy. Good ol' days

  • @MonoChorMe
    @MonoChorMe 4 роки тому +1269

    11:44 There's a Russian analogy to the age old saying with a similar meaning:
    _"Free cheese, can only be found on a mousetrap"._
    🙃

    • @ThomasNimmesgern
      @ThomasNimmesgern 4 роки тому +28

      Unironically: Sounds great! :-)

    • @Meh
      @Meh 3 роки тому +10

      Бесплатный сыр только в мышеловке

    • @andrew_tate
      @andrew_tate 3 роки тому +20

      The mouse pays with its own life, it's not free cheese.

    • @thebuddercweeper
      @thebuddercweeper 3 роки тому +9

      @@andrew_tate unless the mouse survives, which they do sometimes...

    • @andrew_tate
      @andrew_tate 3 роки тому +2

      @@neoupath8823 still some kids who don't get it

  • @tgheretford
    @tgheretford 4 роки тому +315

    1995 = Upgrading from 16MB to 32MB for an affordable price? "If it's too good to be true..."
    2020 = Upgrading from 16GB to 32GB for an affordable price? "If it's too good to be true..."

    • @vizionthing
      @vizionthing 4 роки тому +36

      Standard was 4mb if you were lucky you had 8mb, the upgrade cost around £180 some earthquake had nuked chip plants in Japan and there was a world wide memory shortage.

    • @imakescammersonyoutubesham7919
      @imakescammersonyoutubesham7919 4 роки тому +8

      **laughs in iPod touch 6th generation**

    • @sneekeruk
      @sneekeruk 4 роки тому +5

      I had 12mb in my 486 after windows 95 came out, maybe late 95, it was £140 from a trade only place, normal retail was around £170 at the time for an 8mb simm.

    • @soli-ethd
      @soli-ethd 4 роки тому +12

      I actually updated my PC from 16 to 32GB of RAM for less than SoftRAM95 cost. So affordable in a certain sense, at least.

    • @waltercomunello121
      @waltercomunello121 4 роки тому +12

      even 16GB hard drives were a distant future in '95.

  • @Queldonus
    @Queldonus 2 роки тому

    I was just beginning to learn how computers worked when I heard about this product. With my at the time beginner’s knowledge, I reasoned that what softram was claiming to do would trade CPU cycles for more virtual ram. That’s trading one problem for another, so I never touched it.
    I had forgotten about this scam, so thank you for the trip into my memories.

  • @zogmorp
    @zogmorp 2 роки тому +3

    I remember seeing this for sell in the electronics department of Wal-Mart when I was 14. The thing is, it was completely cheap and easy to just buy more RAM from Wal-Mart and install in my pc. I just read the section on the PC manual on installing RAM and then followed directions. I bought two 4MB ram chips for about $20 each and installed them on my Win 3.1 Packard Bell. The PC came with only 4MB.

  • @Blood-PawWerewolf
    @Blood-PawWerewolf 4 роки тому +662

    Ah, the original “system booster/registry cleaner” scamware! Shows that no matter the era, people still fall for BS like this!

    • @ChristopherGray00
      @ChristopherGray00 4 роки тому +25

      If people are this dumb i don't blame companies for taking advantage of it, free money.

    • @BrendonGreenNZL
      @BrendonGreenNZL 4 роки тому +29

      To be fair, the average user isn't going to be any the wiser. It isn't a claim that can be easily tested.

    • @cesariushervelazco8
      @cesariushervelazco8 4 роки тому +54

      @@ChristopherGray00 Imagine if doctors thought like you.

    • @ChristopherGray00
      @ChristopherGray00 4 роки тому +10

      @@cesariushervelazco8 this isn't even remotely comparable to healthcare, people should know the basics of computers if they plan on using them

    • @cesariushervelazco8
      @cesariushervelazco8 4 роки тому +44

      @@ChristopherGray00 even doctors fell for that scam, they are not dumb, they simply don't have the time to learn "the basics" of computers and neither do hundreds of thousands of people working in other fields.

  • @TrueGrantsta
    @TrueGrantsta 4 роки тому +245

    Ex-CEO Rainer Poertner now runs a stock-promotion website that takes shares in penny stocks as payment for promotion campaigns. Shocking twist.

    • @PrincessFelicie
      @PrincessFelicie 4 роки тому +36

      @Maintenance Renegade America, the land where corporations have more rights than people.

    • @BenState
      @BenState 4 роки тому +7

      @@PrincessFelicie Corporations are People in US

    • @luxvita2815
      @luxvita2815 4 роки тому +6

      @@BenState and people are their test piglets 😜

    • @innosam123
      @innosam123 4 роки тому +11

      Catgirl Princess Félicie Imagine trying to sue the individuals behind a company of 5000 people. Who do you hold responsible if everyone was a little bit responsible?

    • @nyahnyahson523
      @nyahnyahson523 3 роки тому +4

      @@innosam123 The issue is moreso the lack of restrictions when it comes to businesses and what they can do. Obviously you can't really hold people personally responsible for the failure of a business, that's one of the benefits of being a business. However, in return for that benefit it's expected that you recieve negatives as well, since, well, businesses aren't people. A business, as it is now, has the rights of a person *and* a business, with none of the negatives associated with either. A person has the rights of a person, and the negatives of a person, and that's it.
      That's the issue with treating businesses the same as individuals, it creates terrible exploits that can be used to game the system. (For example, a business can be bought out on loan, then *that* loan can be put on *that* business) That's what they mean by "corporations have more rights than people." It's not really an offensive statement, or inherently provacative, it's just a matter of the system that is currently in use.

  • @scottstrang1583
    @scottstrang1583 2 роки тому +7

    This and doublespace/stacker were great when there was a power outage. Typically it required that the pc be blasted and rebuilt

  • @RKDriver
    @RKDriver 3 роки тому +4

    I remember seeing those boxes in places like Costco and Target. It was back in the day when all software came from a physical disk of some sort .

  • @paullandry6573
    @paullandry6573 3 роки тому +180

    :D I remember this. My boss bought one copy and wanted me to install this on all of our company computers. No way.... And he paid full retail LMAO

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 3 роки тому +25

      Oh so he's a pirate too, wonderful. It's probably only licensed for one PC per box :D He really thought he outsmarted them.

    • @mauirandall8176
      @mauirandall8176 3 роки тому +14

      @@SianaGearz love Society where in the situation where this guy was scammed into buying essentially pirated software he's the ass for wanting to use the software that he bought on more then one of his computers.
      As though that would hurt the company that was selling free software for 80 bucks Per disc

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 3 роки тому

      @@mauirandall8176 there's a saying - which is unfortunately painfully wrong - that you can't scam a honest person. To an extent that it is sometimes true, there's major class of scams that are designed to attract specifically dishonest people, in order to protect the scammer. This has certain parallels. The target of this software and such scams is the guy who doesn't stop and think "ok but is it really right" but people who deem themselves grifters but don't have the skill or the brain.

    • @gram.
      @gram. 3 роки тому +1

      @@SianaGearz wat

    • @Idek10000
      @Idek10000 3 роки тому +11

      @@SianaGearz or you know maybe the reason the guy bought and wanted to use it was because it was fucking 1995, computers were relatively new and people didn’t understand how computer storage actually worked

  • @Vorper
    @Vorper 4 роки тому +220

    They sold merch? Did the tee shirt say "I'm a sucker"?

    • @TheAncientOneYT
      @TheAncientOneYT 4 роки тому +6

      Nope, it said IR ID10T

    • @Xanris
      @Xanris 4 роки тому +22

      "This 'S' size shirt became 'L' - poweredbysoftram"

  • @jeremyboughtono2
    @jeremyboughtono2 2 роки тому +7

    I remember my mate swore by this. We used to laugh at him calling him Rambo.

  • @davidrenton
    @davidrenton 3 роки тому +2

    hard disk compression was a big thing back then, being included in version of DOS, i seem to remember that some suppliers would quote the compressed size as the actual HD size, which was never 2x but they would still double it.
    Happy memories disk compression, ram disk's, config.sys , do you want your mouse, you soundcard , or CDROM, pick 2 your not getting 3.

    • @Thribbulous
      @Thribbulous 3 роки тому

      Fannying around with emm386, trying to free up that extra couple of k... Ahh, memories!

  • @HailAnts
    @HailAnts 3 роки тому +73

    Something else that a lot of people don’t remember:
    The price of physical RAM more than doubled around the early to mid 90s. Supposedly one of the Japanese factories that made them burned down. This combined with Windows 95’s release made the market ripe for a scam like this one..

  • @SkyeWeeb
    @SkyeWeeb 4 роки тому +217

    Adding more RAM manually: Small brain
    Dealing with barely any RAM: Normal brain
    Downloading more RAM: Big Brain
    Buying SoftRAM: MEGA BRAIN

  • @smakfu1375
    @smakfu1375 2 роки тому +4

    As systems developer, I actually looked into this when it came out, because I was incredulous that they could implement effective real-time page compression and decompression that didn’t have an enormous compute overhead for the demand-page virtual memory subsystem. To patch the memory manager to implement additional page prioritization levels and then algorithmically select pages for compression, compress and decompress on demand, etc., seemed like complete nonsense in 1995. It was conceptually interesting, but would have likely proven completely ineffectual, as it’d inject a huge number of (for the time) hideously intensive and latency increasing memory operations. As it turned out, it didn’t actually do anything at all.
    But, oddly enough, modern operating systems actually implement paging priority levels and dynamic page compression. Then again, just a single modern CPU core is many hundreds of times more powerful, compared to what we had in 95. But, despite the addition of page compression, it hasn’t led to any massive reduction in working set sizes… at best it’s in the 10% range, so the idea that one could double available memory through dynamic real-time page compression is pretty silly.

  • @S74T
    @S74T 3 роки тому +32

    You missed out on the amazing title : soft ram double ram scam.

  • @letsplayagame226
    @letsplayagame226 3 роки тому +231

    I remember this Sh*t when I was a teenager - luckily I was computer savvy enough to know it was BS.

    • @Rhine0Cowboy
      @Rhine0Cowboy 3 роки тому +15

      It didn't really stand out as fake or impossible for computer savvy people actually, precisely because there were other similar applications that actually did what they claim.
      Only after installing and testing would you start to notice that it actually didn't do anything.

    • @hexagonist23
      @hexagonist23 3 роки тому

      It compresses your RAM. It's not BS.

    • @letsplayagame226
      @letsplayagame226 3 роки тому +1

      @@hexagonist23 why would I buy something that compress?

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 3 роки тому +12

      @@hexagonist23 this one in particular doesn't even compress your RAM {period} it literally does nothing except change your page file size for you

    • @ChrisTian-sd5yq
      @ChrisTian-sd5yq 3 роки тому

      @@Rhine0Cowboy Not RAM, temporary RAM

  • @federicomorrone9583
    @federicomorrone9583 4 роки тому +127

    Imaging entering an hardware store to buy more RAM and exiting with a floppy disk

    • @420GratefulHippie
      @420GratefulHippie 4 роки тому +13

      Well back then upgrading physical RAM was really expensive.
      Most likely your RAM was already maxed out on your motherboard at say 4mg, 8mb or 16mb. If you wanted to upgrade, you would have to get a new motherboard that would accept higher RAM and motherboards back then ran about $400.+, and the new RAM chips would probably be another $200.+
      I got suckered into back then, shelled out $29. and almost immediately felt that it was bullshit because I saw no improved performance. I was in my mid 20's, didn't have a lot of money to upgrade my pc, so I saw this at Egghead and bought it.
      Yep, live and learn.

    • @andrewstones2921
      @andrewstones2921 4 роки тому

      You need to understand that a couple of years previously diskdoubler software was very popular and did work to some extent, so the concept of extra memory from software was plausible.

    • @deanmoncaster
      @deanmoncaster 4 роки тому

      Hey, it's still hardware!

  • @horseypig8631
    @horseypig8631 3 роки тому +3

    1:00 is it just me or did you fall out of your chair laughing

  • @markvollmann5836
    @markvollmann5836 3 роки тому +5

    The c't did a short test and they were unimpressed. Softram actually sued them to revoke their statements, so they said "now we really look into it" - and boy they went deep, analysing the "driver" byte code, detected and revealed the total scam. The article was hilarious

  • @deanmoncaster
    @deanmoncaster 4 роки тому +65

    "do you want more ram? Then install this software that uses your ram up to lie to you!"

  • @Creating_Space
    @Creating_Space 4 роки тому +62

    $80 probably seemed like a bargain back when ram prices were crazy.

    • @martinXY
      @martinXY 4 роки тому +5

      A$100 per megabyte (about US$80/megabyte) back then. Crazy times indeed.

    • @Yiss8352
      @Yiss8352 4 роки тому +2

      @Maintenance Renegade nice

    • @k0lliak553
      @k0lliak553 3 роки тому +1

      And now you can buy 8-12 gigs of ram for ~80$, which is fairly enough for gaming. Times change...

  • @ambientraindrop726
    @ambientraindrop726 3 роки тому +1

    Holy MJD, almost 1,000,000 views?!? That's *insane!* Congrats on (almost) a million views Michael!

  • @robinstewart6510
    @robinstewart6510 Рік тому +2

    Back when I had a non-expandable Macintosh, virtual memory programs like this were a godsend. They allowed me to run multiple programs (switching back & forth into memory), something impossible before. Apple later came out with their own version (called Switcher), still later building this capability into their operating system.

  • @lordofthecats6397
    @lordofthecats6397 4 роки тому +95

    4:30 That is really well written. Total BS, but well written. Reminds me of some of my High School essays...

    • @Diorden119
      @Diorden119 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah I swear what they are describing would possibly be feasible too? I mean I don't know why they would need the page file to compress RAM and by god it would take way longer to decompress the data but hey

    • @OliveMule
      @OliveMule 4 роки тому +2

      😂🤣😅

    • @Kin-bd2vd
      @Kin-bd2vd 3 роки тому +1

      @@Diorden119 ftqf3u0vi vqfn yqequ8vqgunwqin

  • @gilberttheregular8553
    @gilberttheregular8553 4 роки тому +54

    Ah, so this is where the "download more RAM" meme started.

  • @Shutterbun4
    @Shutterbun4 2 роки тому +1

    I used RamDoubler for Macintosh around this time, and it was definitely not a scam. Obviously it did not TRULY double your RAM capacity, but it allowed you to run applications that demanded more RAM. I was totally satisfied with it.

  • @blkstar71
    @blkstar71 3 роки тому

    I remember they had softram knock off products too. I installed one called RAM Doubler or something like that. It wasn't until an IT buddy laughed at me and showed me how to install an actual RAM chip into my computer that I realized I'd been duped. Great video ...

  • @sgtwisky
    @sgtwisky 3 роки тому +237

    Please tell me this is there the "Download More Ram" meme comes from.

    • @krisyannuruha5147
      @krisyannuruha5147 3 роки тому +6

      I think its came from scammer website..

    • @heinzriemann3213
      @heinzriemann3213 3 роки тому +35

      This is the OG of downloading more RAM.

    • @ThZuao
      @ThZuao 3 роки тому +5

      Nah. Naive users. Plain and simple.
      People think everyone in the world is there to rip them off.
      Though companies do lock out features from their products to use the same assembly line for different products. Nvidia's Quadro series for workstations use the exact same gpu their gaming (and btc mining) video cards use. They lock out certain features in gaming cards so companies need to pay a premium for the purpose built ones.
      Gaming cards support ECC VRAM, for example (the VRAM lacks hardware for ECC though).

    • @CoolieBruv
      @CoolieBruv 3 роки тому

      @@krisyannuruha5147 meme website

    • @kidthorazine
      @kidthorazine 3 роки тому +1

      Sort of, back in the late 90s/early 2000s there where a bunch of scam companies that would use similar products online as a means to distribute spyware/adware. That was probably the more direct inspiration.

  • @red9350
    @red9350 4 роки тому +230

    The GUI reminds me a lot of MSI's Afterburner

    • @masgatos1801
      @masgatos1801 4 роки тому +12

      Wow another speed boosting program!

    • @P4INKillers
      @P4INKillers 4 роки тому +51

      @@masgatos1801 Except, it's actually useful.

    • @dio4296
      @dio4296 4 роки тому +7

      @@masgatos1801 Smartass

    • @tiredtypes1260
      @tiredtypes1260 4 роки тому +14

      Bill P except MSI can *actually* give you better performance, unlike this bull.

    • @JohnWaclawski
      @JohnWaclawski 4 роки тому +16

      And MSI's Afterburner is free. Can't get ripped off by paying nothing for something.

  • @brontiago
    @brontiago Рік тому +1

    I blurted out laughing so hard when you quickly added the piece of paper so it can say SoftScam 😂🤣

  • @srirachahero4679
    @srirachahero4679 3 роки тому +3

    A friend of mine had a bootleg disk of this. We tried it on his machine and saw the prompts and the guages...
    I didn't delve into it too deeply but did come across the CNET article and after a few searches on Yahoo and AOL, found that it wasn't what it promised.
    My buddy had long since removed it - it was interfering with (OG) Wolfenstein.

  • @uK8cvPAq
    @uK8cvPAq 4 роки тому +176

    This is the sort of thing my Dad and grandparents would fall for.

    • @BrendonGreenNZL
      @BrendonGreenNZL 4 роки тому +17

      That is exactly the target market for these unscrupulous bastards.

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 4 роки тому +5

      uK8cvPAq This is the kind of thing I’m terrified my mum or siblings will fall for.

    • @TheXev
      @TheXev 4 роки тому +3

      This actually happened to my Grandfather. He brought it home to me randomly one day thinking it would help him play Flight Unlimited. $79>$200 for an actual 4MB RAM upgrade (in which he did eventually buy after this turned out to be fake).

    • @brentfisher902
      @brentfisher902 4 роки тому

      @@BrendonGreenNZL Three words for you:' Heartland America Catalog'

    • @rosspert4688
      @rosspert4688 4 роки тому +2

      Still less lucrative than micro transaction cosmetics for the playas

  • @wordart_guian
    @wordart_guian 4 роки тому +60

    Few things are as hilarious to me as scams with merch. Like the Bonzi Buddy Plush they gave you for subscribing to Bonzi Buddy club.

    • @MichaelMJD
      @MichaelMJD  4 роки тому +19

      I had no idea that they made a Bonzi Buddy plush and I need to get one now 😂

    • @DessertArbiter
      @DessertArbiter 4 роки тому +2

      someone remade bonzi into a portable program without malware, its over on game jolt

  • @edgar9651
    @edgar9651 2 роки тому

    I read those c't articles at that time. It was a lot of fun - especially after many many other computer magazines had articles about how great this works.

  • @ty2010
    @ty2010 3 роки тому

    I got it off the dollar rack and did work with my system, swap adjustments did nothing for programs that just refused to load because low physical memory, this did fix that.
    It did work for the memory compression on one specific system I had, one with a compression chip built into the i/o card. That card was magic, access to drivespace compressed drives was faster than uncompressed drives, also made the floppy tape backup run full speed w/o buffering. The card did not work with 95 at all but would in 98 with compression set to max for whatever reason.

  • @parteibonza
    @parteibonza 4 роки тому +33

    reminds me when my dad bought his pc and they charged him for 4 extra drives. it was just 4 more partitions in the same hard drive lol

    • @StandTallTx
      @StandTallTx 3 роки тому +3

      Lmao that's actually really devious and fucked up

    • @adtc
      @adtc 3 роки тому

      Did you ask him if he saw the technician installing the drives? It probably happened like this: they opened My Computer and showed the one and only drive called C:, then said I can add 4 extra drives D to G for only $$$ more. Deal!.. clickity clickity click (in the partition manager software), and tada: D, E, F, G

    • @parteibonza
      @parteibonza 3 роки тому +2

      @@adtc what are you talking about. he didnt know any more about computers than I knew...this was 1994. Only nerds knew about this stuff back then. Needless to say we both are wiser now as the times have required it.

    • @davidrenton
      @davidrenton 3 роки тому

      you kinda have to admire them for that, that's a Dick Dastardly play if I ever saw it.

    • @parteibonza
      @parteibonza 3 роки тому

      @@davidrenton yeah. its his fault too. buyer beware unfortunately. if it was today....you can be sure I would be spamming their reviews on yelp.

  • @darthslackus499
    @darthslackus499 4 роки тому +85

    SoftRAM DID do something: It took up 950k on your HD, and 950k in memory when you loaded it.
    So I don't know why you are complaining it didn't do anything?

    • @madhoshyagnik3679
      @madhoshyagnik3679 3 роки тому +3

      Not 950k altogether if the program is written using dynamic loader. 😁

  • @RazgovorIsDialog
    @RazgovorIsDialog Рік тому

    Thought I'd come across a video discussing this topic sooner or later, it was in my list!!!

  • @briancherry8088
    @briancherry8088 2 роки тому +2

    Softram seemed to make good sense at the time. Many of us were used to using Ram cartridges in our computers (my Commodore 64 for example). I think they expected people to assume their new computers needed more RAM like the old ones did.

  • @justinreschke3642
    @justinreschke3642 3 роки тому +67

    Every time I need more RAM I just install another copy of SoftRAM.

    • @dereksbooks
      @dereksbooks 2 роки тому +1

      What about for Y2K? Was there a program that you an extra 1,999 years?

    • @karotgamin790
      @karotgamin790 2 роки тому +3

      now i can run warzon one max graphics

  • @vmbo
    @vmbo 4 роки тому +18

    Oh, splash screens when you start your pc, i forgot about those.

  • @Shaun-vy9vi
    @Shaun-vy9vi 2 роки тому +2

    about the same time, there was a product for macs by connectix titled "ram doubler", its was simply amazing and did what it claimed. But yah, it basically was a scratch disk/paging file so you needed hard drive space. But it actually sped up the old 68040s drastically in most scenarios.

  • @MrAer85
    @MrAer85 3 роки тому +7

    I remember this, it was everywhere!

  • @jan-olemichael4967
    @jan-olemichael4967 4 роки тому +37

    The german magazine at 5:11 is the c't, europe's biggest tech magazine still made to this day. I am actually subscribed to it :D

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 3 роки тому

      They say that it's the biggest but i seriously doubt that's actually true. Because c't is limited to German-speaking countries and i think the Netherlands with a translated edition while CHIP is translated and printed all over the world in Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Czech Rep., Hungary, i think Romania, Italy, etc. But i can't say i'm fond of CHIP. If you took just the German editions of CHIP and c't, then c't for sure is at least twice as popular, which means if you considered all editions of CHIP to be separate publications, then c't would be the single largest in all of Europe, but CHIP has a larger international reach because in many European countries there is no publication of comparable quality to c't.

  • @ttkftykyfts
    @ttkftykyfts 4 роки тому +82

    Wow, we all talk about how doubling your RAM is the future, yet we could do it already back in 1995?! Damn!
    (Sarcasm)

    • @gbles1457
      @gbles1457 4 роки тому +1

      I know!!!!
      (Sarcasm)

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 4 роки тому +1

      I don't recommend this software. Nothing beats having real RAM.The more RAM you have the better.

    • @ttkftykyfts
      @ttkftykyfts 4 роки тому +5

      @@louistournas120 I thank you deeply for your recommendation.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 3 роки тому

      I think Connectix RAM Doubler predates this utility by a year, at least the earlier Mac OS version! Except it actually did something really smart. Besides taking your money.

  • @niemand262
    @niemand262 3 роки тому +2

    I remember setting my page file to a larger size. Takes me back. =)

  • @Uncircuited
    @Uncircuited 3 роки тому +5

    I like how no one is talking about how the company's name is literally Syn-*cronys*

  • @gupp_4943
    @gupp_4943 4 роки тому +354

    Him:"buys ram booster for 80$"I
    Me who downloaded ram for free from a website that says its virus free:"laughs in ram" You fool!

    • @JohnFortniteKennedy_
      @JohnFortniteKennedy_ 3 роки тому +2

      *holup-*

    • @jouby3109
      @jouby3109 3 роки тому +11

      Godamn comments from 2019 and up really are just templates and unfunny memes...

    • @JohnFortniteKennedy_
      @JohnFortniteKennedy_ 3 роки тому +1

      @@jouby3109 sussus amogus

    • @jouby3109
      @jouby3109 3 роки тому +5

      @@JohnFortniteKennedy_ I'm going insane from amogus, my mother wore a red dress and there was a white circle in the middle of it. I had to kill her, seeing anything that resembles the among us impostor fills me with uncontrollable rage

    • @NijikaAirConditioner
      @NijikaAirConditioner 3 роки тому +1

      @@jouby3109 when the amogus imposter is very suspicous

  • @musicmaker85
    @musicmaker85 3 роки тому +11

    I remember this software vividly. My grandpa bought it because I had a game that required a minimum of 8MB of RAM and their PC only had 4MB. I don’t recall that this actually worked so eventually he bought another stick of RAM, which at that time was pretty expensive.

    • @dgro949
      @dgro949 3 роки тому +2

      I remember that, $60 for 16 Megs!

  • @beaumontlivingston8084
    @beaumontlivingston8084 Місяць тому

    I used a really good ram manager back in the ‘90s that worked really well with Windows 95, it used a paging scheme you had control of. You could stipulate what was paged, when, it was quite verbose but as memory got cheaper it was abandon. I don’t remember the name but it did really well once you put some time in configuring it optimally. It had a feel to it like the ram manager in Apple OS8 and OS9.

  • @pantherplatform
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    This channel's content gives me flashbacks of middle and high school