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I don't consider these people 'pseudo-archaeologists', David. At best, they're pseudo-journalists, and not very capable at that. Foerster can take some great footage, but can't spell a name the same way twice. Tsoukalos is only interested in sensationalism regardless of the factual evidence to the contrary.
The tin foil hats also love to say "Energy" over and over, without ever saying what form of energy, how it can be measured, units like Amperes or Volts, etc.
I find the "megalithic" period a lot, even in Wikipedia articles. Imho, although there is no such general period, it makes sense for some cultures when talking about this specific culture.
Number one sign!!!!! The guy making the presentation goes along with every nuance of the accepted paradigm... Nothing can be older than we say it is and any evidence to the contrary is dismissed out of hand... People like Michael cremo are fools and their work is invalid..
I have a question. In history, has there ever been a concerted effort where one ethnic group has tried to erase, denigrate and disrespect the historical and cultural achievements of another?
Agreed. These are often provocative phrases found in UA-cam videos in order to be clickbait. This is not confined to pseudoscience or pseudo-archeological videos either.
I work in a grocery store. And I use the term "oopa" all the time in reference to something that was clearly grabbed by a customer, and put on a shelf in a spot far away from it's regular shelf spot.
An oopa doopa would be an attempt by another customer to put it in the correct place unsuccessfully? I used to help the school librarian, and sometimes oopas and oopa doopas happen in libraries, too. I've even found things written by Error von Dummkopf in the history section instead of Fantasy/SciFi , but have reported them rather than putting them in their proper place, the circular file!
The words "orthodox" and "mainstream" made me laugh out loud. A coworker used to always rant about "mainstream" science, always in the context of ancient history. I finally got fed up with it, and said: "You were totally OK with mainstream science when you needed your coronary bypass. The mainstream is good enough to keep your heart working, but studying the history of the planet- nope, that's gotta be aliens. Pick a lane, because Xenu didn't fix you up. That was just a normal mainstream doctor." I did get a talking to from my boss for losing my temper, but after a few weeks of our local "researcher" being a lot more agreeable, my boss did thank me for the peace and quiet.
Yes plus all the stuff they riff on in their videos and books are all facts that have been discovered by mainstream science, or artefacts that were discovered by mainstream science. Like when I hear these guys going on and on about how nobody will tell you these things and I'm like: then how do you know about it, if nobody will tell you or talk about it? Because these dudes are definitely not going out there and discovering things themselves, they are just taking the findings of others and riffing on them, that's all they are doing.
Oh yeah! I sometimes talk with a fellow at the gym I work out. He is very vocal about the "plandemic" and how wearing masks is useless and the vaccines are harmful. This man is about my age (71) and he is visibly afflicted with Parkinson's. When I make a reasonable statement like: "I think I will take the advice of medical experts rather than take the word of someone whose sole claim to knowledge is: "I read it on twitter' ", he claims that I have been indoctrinated by the dogma of experts. I then ask him if he was diagnosed with Parkinson's by a doctor or if he learned about his condition on the internet. I asked why he would take the word of an expert rather than get a second opinion from someone who is an independent thinker. I found that he lost the desire to talk with me after that. boo hoo. We live in strange times.
"What THEY don't want you to know" and the best, for me is "The New Terrifying Discovery In Egypt That Scares Scientists!" which is the actual title of a UA-cam video.....
@@panchopuskas1 😅 Yup, THEY know the truth but will keep it hidden at any cost. Why? To protect THEMSELVES and THEIR fake mainstream research/science🤣 Great comment. Gave me a good laugh 👍
As a big alternative history fan a friend and I had the good fortune to attend a talk given by Erich Von Daniken in London. He even chatted with us afterwards. I could not wait to get home, grab his books from my bookshelf and throw them straight in the rubbish bin. I was cured.
@@thomasbell7033 much like Ayn Rand, Von Daniken is thrilling for the adolescent mind. Thankfully we grow out of it, and either find other intellectual thrills or buckle down to learn real economics or archaeology (which can also be more thrilling).
Yes - if I see a headline anywhere that says; 'Scientists can't explain' or 'New discovery baffles scientists' I think; what kind of scientists? Archaeologists? Astronomers? Biologists? Scientists are not all alike - except in the minds of BS artists.
@@kensmith5694 Good point!! It always seems that between the lines, when the statement is: "scientists can't explain...". In parentheses there is the implication or outright claim: "but I can".
@@LittleNala “Scientists can't explain” will always be true if you just refuse to ask the scientists in the relevant fields. A chemist probably can't explain what the Clovis culture was but an Archeologist also probably can't explain the Haber-Bosch process.
The funny thing is that "mainstream scientists" is a negative word, but "experts" is a positive word. They'll deny everything actual scientists say about a subject, and the next sentence they will appeal to the authority of "experts" to back up their opinions.
These fantastic "authors" and self made researchers are clever enough to building a money making machine 😊😊😊 but they are far from being so extraordinary good as Jules Verne in writing phantastic stories but they handle with academic stuff which are interesting for the normal individuals, so they buy such books from GRAHAM better than a science literature, who the normal individuals are thinking I would not understand..... This is a paradox But I think it could be really a mistake of mainstream academic scientists, that they should better write their specialist literature in an understandable form for all of us.....!!! I mean.....all archaeological and anthropology stuff is so a big field and extraordinary interesting to anybody that all can gain a lot of MONEY, independent if they tell the truth or not....😅😊😢 It's a paradox like FAKE NEWS 📰🗞️😊
If your car broke down would you take it to a mainstream mechanic? How do you feel about mainstream dentistry? One red flag of pseudo archeology/history is that the author spends a lot of time talking about himself: how people always fail to notice the author's genius, and how they are so able to think outside the box.
😂 if you want to see some outside of the box mechanics look up an old show called Bush Mechanics. It's hilarious, informative, and pretty entertaining It basically uses skits to look at Australian aboriginal people's relationship and history with cars.
@@AveragePicker They could do some great episodes in Cuba. Dudes cannibalize parts from Ladas (like Ukrainian built Toyotas), Nissons, and old tractors, and re-machine them to keep US made Chevys and Buicks from the '40s and '50s on the road.
@@russellmillar7132 I moved to Mexico, which is not an undeveloped country (despite what some people think). But there is a lot of poverty and poor people know how to improvise and make do. Sometimes they’ve developed different tricks for making do that are ingenious and get passed on to succeeding generations. But sometimes stuff I see is scary and dangerous. Electrical work. Improper securing of loads on pick up trucks. People are used to doing things for themselves, but they don’t always have the knowledge or understanding of what it is they’re trying to do. I think one of my favorite things is the “shade tree mechanic” that doesn’t have a workshop but works under the shade of a tree on the side of the road. I had a friend that worked in an Autobody shop, and when the maestro retired, the workshop building was sold. So my friend moved his own equipment into my stairwell (I live on a second floor, but I’ve got my own first floor entrance), and for the last 8 or 9 years, he works on the street in front of my building, and keeps his tools, paint and other materials inside my front door, to the side of the stairs. He’s offered to pay rent, but I told him to just pay the electrical bill, because he uses it to run his compressor. The other benefits are that he’s an extra layer of security, and he’s usually there to receive packages if I’m not home. I know someone has my back. During the pandemicm he’d send his assistant out if I needed an errand. Anyway, I’m rambling. Why did I bring up Luis? Oh, yeah. The dude is a master craftsman of Bondo. And I’ve seen him teach his skills to his cousin, who works as his assistant. There’s a lot of cases when he orders replacement panels to for damaged cars, but when he knows his client can’t afford new parts, he gives them an equal result with Bondo. When it’s all painted, you can’t tell the difference.
@@russellmillar7132 did we even build Ladas here? I know Ukraine had ZAZ-Daewoo assembling some Korean cars long ago (my grandpa used to drive for the local branch), but Lada crap is usually made in Togliatti, which is basically a Soviet era industry town in the middle of nowhere that got Italian name because they were making licensed Fiats since 60s.)))
Someone needs to start a (satirical) pseudo-pseudoarcheology channel… where they call out the mainstream pseudoarcheologists for publishing popular opinions like the ancient astronaut, but they refuse to acknowledge the “truth” that the pyramids were built by time-travelling ninjas. (They cut the rock with their ninja-chopping action.)
It's hard to satirize a group that has, seriously, proposed that Egyptians had tame dinosaurs to build the pyramids with. (I can't find the thing again because I saw it in a compilation of other pyramid-debunking and I got distracted learning about how they used rotating cranes and sandsaws and built ramps inside the pyramids to provide shallower ascending slopes and sort of covered it up after with the rest of the pyramid (like I do my redstone in minecraft!).
Check out Philomena Cunk. It is a satire on the English anthropology shows but it does critique pseudo science as she plays an idiot. One time she forgets to wear pants. It's hilarious at times.
13:00 reminds me of an important point Stefan Milo makes: if the world was interconnected in ancient times as pseudo-archeologists claim, how come there isn't any prior evidence of genetic mixing of peoples or evidence of non-native food cultivation? Like what occurred when the Spanish reached the Americas--Europeans genetically mixed with indigenous peoples of the Americas and brought crops with them home/left theirs there. If these ancient societies were connected then this surely would've happened in those times too..
Unfortunately "great theorists" also believe that the history that is derived by the evidence we have gathered is actually made up by "them", who are hiding how Christians all over the world generated power in great quantities thanks to the shape of the decorations on churches. Oh, and that more people where in San Francisco than "they" tell you in the 18hundreds. Cause picture show more houses than me think needed, therefore wrong
The funny thing is "Darwinist" and "social Darwinist" were coined by eugenicists who considered not breeding people like livestock to be dedicated to "survival of the fittest". In reality, they were people who objected to treating people like livestock.
@@AZ-697 what? Darwin , among others, understood an important thing about life, it evolves...this remains true...genetic science cannot be understood without understanding evolution. many scientific disciplines rely on evolution...
@@AZ-697 Genetics stands on the shoulders of Darwin. How do you reconcile the work of Newton with Special Relativity? With quantum mechanics? (Newton believed in Alchemy by the way.)
@@AZ-697 Another good red flag of pseudoscience is this exact kind of response. Instead of actually responding to what was said you just claim to be better than the others and never put forward any actual argument or evidence.
@@MarcosElMalo2 Al-chemy is just chemistry in original Arabic, same naming pattern as Al-gebra, tho the word alchemy is mostly used for turning lead into gold now. Darwinism can also mean two very different things, either studying naturalism or trying to breed humans in camps, whichever camp you follow lol.
Big respect to you David for talking about not putting your new ideas to the students you're teaching. I've hated hearing from my friends who took courses in the more academic fields who've had their education hampered by professors seeking validation of their ego or clout in their field by using their students as pawns for it.
I had an openly communist professor in college, but didn't play along, even expressed my disagreement with the author the class was centered around. I passed; he didn't hold the disagreement against me. Despite his adherence to an evil ideology, I respected him for that.
I had a computer science prof spend most of a lecture talking about how you shouldn't make fun of someone who has adult acne. I felt like walking out and doing something more productive with my time, but didn't want to step on his fragile self esteem.
And I was just about to author a book contradicting mainstream researchers regarding precision-cut oopah evidence from the megolithic era. It may overturn all orthodox concepts about advanced technology before the Great Reset. 😅 Thanks for the great collab. Keep on educating the world.
"Ancient astronaut theorists believe/theorise bla bla bla" is one of the funniest ways to try to prove something. I've had so many laughs when I watched that show years ago. I was fascinated by that show back then. Nowadays I'm skeptic to all these "alternative archaeology" theories because all of them have only circumstantial evidence. It's so important that there is ppl like you 2 David and Milo keep it up!
😂 Check this out: "The stone blocks could have been placed there by the use of sound waves. Is it possible? Ancient astronaut theorists think it is". Not verbatim but close enough. 😂 My son thought he could use syrup as glue when he was five. Thinking something up does not mean it is real.
I went through my Ancient Aliens phase during the late'80s-early '90s. I read a number of books including: "The 12th Planet" by Zecharias Sitchin, and: "Chariots of the Gods" Erich Von Danniken, among others. This was before the internet and before the History Channel was launched (1995). I was lucky enough to have a great conversation with an Assyriologist (who had read 12th Planet), and later a fellow who held a PHD in astronomy. Yes, they were part of mainstream academia, but they were not dogmatic about the claims made. They simply pointed out some flaws in the narrative, in the context of their fields of specialty, and asked brilliant question (skepticism). The whole episode put me on a path that led me to study the history and evolution of science, and to appreciate the work of these two guys.
@@mathiasjonsson8222 That's literally stolen from The Elder Scrolls, like verbatim, the ancient lost Dwemer civilization there is said to have built its underground cities using sound magic. Though the great thing about TES world building is that it's filled with unreliable sources, misinterpretations and baseless speculation so ironically a literal fantasy world has a better grasp on history than these people.
Out of place artifacts do have an academic name. They are called intrusive artifacts. That just means someone dropped a ring or something and it found it's way to a place that doesn't fit. I read about a dig in south America recently where the archaeologists found a gold finger ring watch in a layer it should not have been in. When they looked at the back it said Seiko 1977. But our alternative friends love using "ooparts" as a killer argument when the truth of the matter is they turn up all the time for all kinds or reasons.
Another well known example is when wild animals drag their prey into caves. If the prey was humanoid, that could lead to speculation that the cave was used as a burial site, which suggests that the humanoids in question believed in an afterlife. This is one reason why archaeologists are so meticulous in gathering evidence before forming hypotheses. The presence of human remains isn’t enough, there must be other indications.
@dazuk1969 And when a genuine one is found, they leap immediately to the most unlikely explanation. My personal example would be to imagine if a dig at a pre-Contact North American site found a clearly Roman coin. Does that mean Romans reached the Americas? No. There have been items of Roman origin found in China, Korea, and Japan, obviously carried on the Silk Road. It's not an unreasonable possibility that a Roman coin could make its way up the Pacific coast via trade until it reached the Inuit-Aleut population who routinely traveled across the Bering Strait, and once it reached Alaska get fed through the extensive trade networks until it reached that site somewhere in North America. It would be surprising, and exciting, but not inexplicable nor would it overturn the existing understanding of history.
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 There are plenty of historical records written by the "losers" and also by outsiders who just observed what their neighbors were doing.
@@hassanalkhalaf1115Funnily enough, yes. All you need to do to write history is (a) be able to write, (b) be able to preserve the writing, and (c) be found by somebody who cares. While generic "winners" have a leg up in all those categories, it's not identical to being a winner. We have multiple records from various "losers" as well, especially when the loss was partial.
@@LukeChaosToday the propaganda is of course much bigger then before alot of people assume the majority is always right but that is far from always true.
One thing that deserves to be mentioned is that there is a lot more money to be made in pseudo-science than in actual science, which is probably the main motivation for a lot of these people. Like profit margins are a lot higher in de the quackery business than in actual pharmaceutical medicin.
Youre disconnected from reality by about 1 trillion dollars lol. Education boards and the education sector(private sector) in general is 1000s of times bigger than any book or youtube channel talking about alternative history. Durr
@@Kitties-of-Doom What "alternative history"? Like that the American civil war was not about slavery? You really are the one who has no idea. The average historian or archeologist does not make a fraction of what a man like Graham Hancock makes off the poppycock he sells to people like you, who don't have a clue what real science is about.
@@Kitties-of-Doom Do you think the size of a market is the same as its profit margins? Like do you not understand that profit is the difference between costs and income?
@@hedgehog3180 Do you think educational sector is less than one trillion dollars in profit lollol? Its tied into pharma, big oil , automotive and 3 other largest exports into the world as its a private sector holding massive shares in all of those. Youve got no grasp on transnational corporate industrial complex. Idiots that think pseudoscience holds a share in the market are just that.
@@hedgehog3180 Youre slow. The education sector holds millions of shares in all major exports. Oil, pharma, automotive, packaging and everything else. You've got no grasp on economy. Education sector is into trillions in profit as its in a web of a corporate industrial complex.
When I was a kid in the late seventies and eighties with an interest in archaeology and history, I picked up Chariots of the Gods in the local library and read it. Thank the gods, there was also a scientific book that debunked everything von Daniken said and I got cured at a very early age of pseudoscience/archaeology. You guys do the same work, thank you! You are saving people from a whole lot of nonsense.
Watch out for those click bait titles....... 'Scientists are terrified of this new Archaeological discovery' 100% of the time, the video turns out to be pseudo (or just plain wacky) Archaeology.
The line by itself already shows a complete lack of understanding of science. Scientists aren't afraid of new discoveries ever. If anything, their concerns are in not finding anything of significance.
Having been raised by conservative creationists the oop-arts and gradualism/catastrophism are both definitely cross-pollinations between the conspiracy/pseudo-archeology and the biblical creationist camps. And I think one thing that's a bit of an obstacle in counter-acting these sorts of ideas, is that you kinda assume that there's more and less "outlandish" ideas to most of these people, when usually they actually start with some outlandish idea, that glom on other outlandish ideas to that one they start with, without actually being invested in how realistic our plausible those ideas are. Which I think goes into something I, having come out of that kind of environment, see as a potential misunderstanding for you guys. While they are creative, they're often actually almost vehemently incurious. Like the overlap with extreme religious beliefs, cult-like quackery, and racism isn't coincidental, or even just incidental, these people are not looking for answers or "truth" in they way people in the sciences are, they're looking for new collections of information or narratives that support an idea they already regard as central, hence why if the majority of the evidence seems to be against it, they do not, and will not see it as evidence against that idea, but evidence that the people in those institutions are somehow against them, and perhaps engaged in some massive conspiracy to suppress their "truth". Which is also why, because they think that way, they project and assume everyone else "really" thinks that way too. Their presumption is that because they're starting with a belief or assumption, and trying to find facts to fit that assumption and rejecting anything that doesn't, that everyone else is doing the same any anyone who claims otherwise is either self-deluded (if they're feeling generous), or deliberately lying when they claim otherwise.
@@gorillaguerillaDKNot a single person in my life would consider me religious, but you are aware that there are actual historically accurate records in the Bible right? Not all of it is story or metaphor.
@@AZ-697 There’s so little of the Bible that contains anything historical, so if that’s the standard you wanna adhere to, we should start putting Historical Fiction in the Non-Fiction section!
@@gorillaguerillaDK Oh really? You probably can’t even provide specific examples of what you define as “of the Bible that contains anything historical?” The Ukrainian flag on your username tells me all I need to know about you.
@@AZ-697 The Ukrainian flag tells you that I wholeheartedly support an allied sovereign country which is under attack by a imperialist neighbouring country that is governed by a wannabe Tzar and his buddies from the Oligarch Bratva in the Kremlin - it says absolutely nadazero about my insight into the Bible or how little of scripture that contains anything historically factual in it, (aside from what also can be seen in Historical Fiction). We can start with some of the most classic myths, such as Exodus! Exodus was written during captivity in Babylon, and contains zero actual history! It’s a narrative designed with two purposes, to inspire hope for freedom and a return, and as a way to make claims to possessions lost during captivity! The entire differentiation between the Israelites and Canaanites is bonkers, it was in fact a civil war among Canaanites - the Israelites WERE Canaanites! It was strife among those who held on to the broader pantheon of gods and those who started ditching gods and eventually going monotheistic. There’s a few archaeological findings that indicate that it’s possible that there was a King David, and a King Solomon, but the evidence is very sparse and not especially convincing, (unless someone really wanna be convinced). Also, just because a book, script, or whatever, mentions something historically accurate, doesn’t make it a history book - again, see the entire genre of historical fiction books! Oh, and for someone "not religious", you sure get offended extremely quickly just from someone mentioning that the Bible isn’t historical! But hey, I guess we can’t expect much rational thinking from someone who’s getting such a sore bum over seeing a Ukrainian flag!
*Principals of pseudo history* Updated today 1. “Ancient” is all one time, and, when my pseudo history requires, all one place 2. every ancient person was *a)* an expert on everything ancient when it fits my pseudo history, but *b)* too stupid to pile up rocks when the pseudo history requires that, especially if the people are not White 3. Establish false dichotomies: “If evidence-based history is imperfect or can’t explain something yet, then my pseudo history must be true.” 4. any “anti-establishment” idea corroborates any other anti-establishment idea, no matter how much they may contradict each other 5. Scholarly credentials are not valuable, but “author” and “researcher” without a relevant degree is
What saddens me is how totally taken in people get by these unfounded theories. They play on the fact most people just don’t know how the ancients actually achieved what they did. The smug verification on bens face while he was on Joe rogan was so annoying, because Joe would never have on Dr Miano to actually tell people the truth of the matter.
@@chucklearnslithics3751 Now I'm tempted to make a thumbnail like that and put it on a video about like astrophysics or something. Archeologists can't explain the formation of this nebula!!!!
you've got to be kidding right? David is going to have to delete half his content and apologize to his students for teaching them bullshit for years if these 'theories' come true.
Oh I know,when they call you "guys" and say "you're not going to believe this" and tell you the mother of all pyramids was built in India....or whatever fallacy etc etc .
@@candui-7 guessing you prefer Ancient Aliens? I have to admit, the "lost civilization" genre really sucked me in for a few years too? Graham Hancock has some brilliant imaginative stories....if only there were some solid evidence? I guess that is the real disconnect, science always requires that pesky "evidence" thingy :)
@@MotoGiant Bingo! Compared to fiction and fantasy, where evidence isn't necessary, science seems slow, tedious, sometimes confusing and often contradictory.
@@MotoGiant There was a time when we speculated about conspiracy theories because it was fun. We didn’t take it too seriously (although there were some people that did and spent years of work trying to gather evidence for their theories). Cryptozoology was fun. You know, the Loch Ness monster and Sasquatch and all that. And if you went backpacking in the Pacific Northwest, the legend of Big Foot created a certain spice to the adventure. There’s an author who wrote novels about conspiracy theories, Robert Anton Wilson. He wrote the Illuminati Trilogy, which is vastly entertaining. He was once asked if he really believed in conspiracies and he said it wasn’t a matter of belief, but of probabilities. I think this guided me. There was a tiny probability that the Loch Ness Monster was real or that we were being visited by extraterrestrials, but the overwhelming evidence indicated that probably Nessie didn't exist and there were no aliens. I accepted mainstream science, but it was fun to consider the long shot. Anyway, "alternative science" was an entertainment for most of us. Blaming the CIA was kind of a joke more than a real suspicion. There's also an interesting (and ambiguous) novel by Umberto Eco, named Foucault's Pendulum. It's worth read if you've got time. It's more about the mindset of serious conspiracy theorists, and not a defense of them.
You missed a very common thing. Watch for "could it be" and phrases like that. They are often used to suggest an idea early on that is later taken as being true for a following argument without bothering to provide and evidence that the idea is true. Another one is the "XXX was able to prove that ..." when the XXX is some other person's name. It is an appeal to authority but in many cases the "authority" is not even a real authority.
“Precision architecture” the term also denotes a rcst theme many pseudo archeologists promote, often using the term when speaking about civilizations in the Americas or Egypt but interestingly never using it when speaking about classical architecture in Rome or Greece. It says a lot when you’re so “amazed” and in disbelief that a people can create structures in the Americas or Egypt but it’s no big deal if they’re greek or Roman.
You guys are hitting the nail squarely on the head. In fact, the level of precision with which you guys incise these topics could scarcely have been achieved with the technology we have today. 🙃 Slightly off topic but Q annon frequently pushes the idea that any expert should be able to explain any complex topic, to any half brained individual, in a few sentences, or they really don't understand it themselves. (Einstein says so !) This of course emboldens the segment that may overlap with pseudo science enthusiasts to assume that "mainstream academics with all their fancy degrees don't know everything". Many today have become experts at missing the point. Congratulations on your upcoming wedding Dr. M.
The other thing I notice is they don't reference scientific experiments or method or bring up points that disprove their theories. Like Ghost hunters SAY they are using science to prove ghosts but they never investigate a house that has never been documented to be haunted... as a "control"...
Got no problems with people having alternative theories, but Handcock and Uncharted x, etc are just charlatans praying on spiritually and logically lost
@@1sanitat1 He sorta presents a theory, but it's at best on as robust grounds as LePlongeur's "Mu is real" theory, like an extremely clumsy gap-filling.
@@atheistdingo6273 lol, a troll, how droll...maybe I was just waiting for the god of UA-cam to suggest it. I have a lot of interests, I seldom let myself binge on any one facet of science. Tho the god of UA-cam seems happy to route my idle time into the John Oliver rabbithole, I don't whine about it.
Very helpful. We do watch all these channels and it gets confusing. That's why your Shorts/videos are the best. Thank you. Looking forward to more adventures in 2024. 👋
I'm an amateur with a background in procrastination and self-distraction. One of the areas of interest I focus on is Han Chinese clothing. The worst word in the entire dictionary for me is (no offense intended) "ancient". If you try to search for information on ancient Chinese clothing, either in print or online, you invariably become inundated with things as recent as 19th century as if nothing in east Asia changed at all until then.
You two, the Scourges of Fake Science. I'm so glad that I had great science teachers in the 1960s. They taught me the scientific method and how to tell fake from real facts. Keep up the good work.
Great conversation!👍 David, to your point about how people think you don't challenge the system. After watching enough of your videos I definitely have the sense that you care deeply about what we currently know, but crave new ideas. You pointed out though, that the ideas have to go through rigger. It is not the job of someone else to be convinced, if your data and evidence is compelling and strong it will do the work of changing minds. Overall I think your style of debunking is extremely effective. You don't attack those who challenge, you ask for more data. Ben over at unchartedX, unfortunately, still seems to think that a very small sampling of unverifiable pots is his smoking gun. He's far too religious, IMO.
Ahh yes, Ben from UnsupportedX. I have often brought up points of contention in the comment section to the claims he makes in his videos . To his credit (?) he occasionally responds. Sadly, however, he never addresses the points I make, choosing instead to reply as if I am too dense: "you obviously don't understand precision!" or too indoctrinated: "you are a victim of mainstream dogma" or my favorite "what are you so wadded up about? Why not make your own video?" This guy is getting fat off the alt-history gravy train and can't be bothered to consider all the evidence that refutes his crap.
Milo used the term "Generalist" last night in Orono. I like that. Because it's a perfect description. Standing Ovation, well deserved. Thanks again Milo.🖤🖤
This applies more broadly to pseudo-science, meta-physics and other forms of woo; but anytime someone says the word energy and they cannot elaborate on precisely what form of energy, what instrument they use to detect it, or what unit of measure they used to quantify it; you should always take whatever they just said and replace the word energy with the phrase "imaginary, made-up, bullshit" because that is invariably all they are talking about.
Someone is not using the term metaphysics correctly, possibly someone you heard it from. It's an area of philosophy having to do with how we know things.
@@WorldofAntiquity when will you accept my challenge to do a live debate?? Cmon big guy. You're the debunker aren't you??? Let's do this. Put your money where your mouth is.
I believe the monoliths in earlier ages make sense based on a labor expenditure analyses. Cutting consumes a tremendous number of man hours over a long period. Take a stone, spend time to cut it in half, then move the two pieces in two movements using half the manpower needed to move the single one once, but taking twice as long. The transport takes the same number of man-hours. There is no manpower savings in moving smaller ones twice versus the large one once, but the labor loss comes in stone cutting. Efficiency occurs in moving the largest stone possible.
I can be said to be in a middle position between mainstream scientists and pseudo-science. I myself work in the field of architecture and love ancient history. I don't believe in aliens, I don't believe in ancient super technologies, but I do believe that the current timeline of history is poorly understood and it is likely that we will find a lot of evidence that the Bronze Age is much longer. In the 90s, scientists would have ridiculed you if you had said about the probability of the existence of Karakhan Tepe and Gobekli Tepe. The reason for the existence of pseudoarcheology is that science itself often does not allow the development of any theories, and this applies not only to archeology, but also to chemistry, physics, genetics and geology, because scientists say that something is impossible. As one person said, what's the difference between science and pseudoscience? 50 years.
Science allows for theories when they have evidence. I could say I have a theory that you try to chat up children. Would you say that's a problem if I don't present any evidence for my theory?
@@mg-ew2xf that's the problem. Many of accepted theories of today didn't have any evidence in past. For example, the atomic theory of Democritus, Alfred Wegener's theory of continental drift and event Copernicus' heliocentric system. If we take modern science the theory of younger dryas theory originally was considered as pseudo-science, but now it has many supporters among scientific community.
Touché. You are trying to laugh at people who say "government is lying to you about shape of the Earth", because you debunk only the second part... Do I think tRump's government lied about vaccines, warp speed and all? No. Pfizer ones are good. Do I think Obama and Merkel lied when they said russian reboot is good and putin won't invade? Of course, I can hear the explosions outside my window... I deliberately chose one time the orange was on the right side, he supported vaccinations, and the horrible foreign policy of the West before (and during) his administration... Governments aren't to be trusted. Western media lied about white-washing putin so many times, we in Ukraine consider New York Times a Kremlin-run paper... what it doesn't mean that russian media is better, it's WAY worse, like you can literally do the opposite they suggest, all the time. Problem in conspiracy nuts isn't that they're skeptical of mainstream but that they blindly believed it and then got their trust betrayed, so now become reactionaries who think that for some silly reason your government wants you to die instead of being healthy and paying more taxes forever. Does anyone REALLY think that proving the Earth isn't a dinosaur shape would somehow stop gullible people from thinking the guys who sold weapons to Iraq, AND Iran, and currently export missile components to russia think about your well-being? No. The problem isn't mistrust in the government, which is warrented, it's blindly trusting foreign, hostile governments... like FFS, just because NATO leaders are crooked and want to buy oil from russians without those pesky Ukrainians complaining doesn't mean you can bloody believe in TikTok under Chinese Communist party's watchful eye!
Looking into the history of plant and animal domestication is what finally ended any hope I had that there might be even semi technologically advanced, ancient civilizations.
I don't know quite how deliberate it is from all sources, but there is a clear trend of saying or implying things like "the government is lying to you", "the experts are trying to fool you", "experts don't want to admit A" it is all sort of designed to make people mistrust experts or professionals, such that the ignorance of people, or inability to understand or put in the work to understand different fields can be turned into a willingness to listen to the sources of these kinds of statements or implications. it is a bit like stopping someone in the street and giving them back their wallet that they dropped, suddenly with no reason at all you feel like some person is trustworthy, when the fact is that you can't know whether they picked your pocket or found your wallet in the snow. it is kind of similar to that i think, none of these videos actually earn any of the trust they inspire in people, they just give them their wallet back and there we are, they now seem nice and like they are going out of their way to inform people, when in fact it is just a very easy method for stealing peoples attention and trust.
Hook, line, and sinker of flat-earthers for example, is not that the Earth is flat, it's that we're being lied to. You can have a cube-earther or donut-earther and the hook would be the same.
@@D3adCl0wn that's because debunkers focus on wrong things. The governments ARE lying to people, but not in the way conspiracy nuts (which are often just supported by hostile actors) get fooled into... for example, one of the reasons a lot of Black people in USA are skeptical about vaccines and doctors is because of pretty horribly history of lies and abuse by Americans medics against their community. So instead of trying to debunk Earth shape, you need to focus on why people feel betrayed or left out by the state, and touch on the real issues that are obscured by conspiratorial nonsense... Example, USA lied during Iran-Contra affair. Arming their enemies... people bring that up (or whatever related to Saddam) and assume the opposite side is truthful and eat up russian or Chinese propaganda with zero critical thinking... it's one of the reasons TikTok is harmful: undiluted CCP controlled platform. There are cooks who see "UK public broadcaster" label on BBC and scream it's propaganda while getting mad at russia today correspondent from UK like Galloway getting label of being labeled as "russian state media", which he is. Address people's actual worries instead of just debunking each conspiracy at the time... you're fighting phantoms otherwise, a hydra, cut off one head, two more grow. SOMEONE WHO LOST TRUST IN MEDIA AFTER IRAQ WON'T RECOVER IT AFTER YOU PROVE THE HORIZON TO THEM, the issues are deeper and governments don't help it.
Not taking anything away of what you said but being critical of the government and reading between the lines is a key factor to growing up. Not believing everything you're being told especially not by politicians isn't something which should be belittled.
Loved the video. David, once you've published your ideas please please PLEASE do a video about it because your presentation style would suit me better than reading an academic paper
This is needed, the vocabulary being used is so obvious once you know what to look for. This stone is too perfect, humans couldn't do it. This building is too big, humans couldn't do it. This computer is too smart (Antikithera mechanism), humans couldn't make it. Every time someone says the ancient humans couldn't do this or that I find it very offensive. The same species of human walks the planet today as 3000 years ago. The Romans could have gone to the moon if they had the inclination to do so. Nothing different from their human brain and ours in terms of ability they just applied themselves to other tasks. Ancient humans actually seem way smarter and more creative than modern humans to me.
Humans couldn't make the Antikythera mechanism, but were able to determine what it was despite it being corroded into a solid lump. Yeah. Sure. I hate the way people treat ancient populations as stupid. Very, very few modern people would have the day-to-day knowledge needed to survive in the past.
And one Roman did go to the Moon! Lucian of Samosata! He tells the tale in his novel "A True Story"! Of course, the opening of the book is an explanation of how, unlike other authors of books on travels to distant lands, he's admitting its all a lie, despite the title.
I love having you boys on my screen at the same time - David is my Alan Grant, and Milo is my Indy - Awesome, beautiful fellas, both of you! More please! :)
Need to watch the full video! But Milo, my man, I know we are of the broke professional generation, investing in a small webcam so you can set it up to be slightly angled down, it’ll make a difference for how your interviews look
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I don't consider these people 'pseudo-archaeologists', David.
At best, they're pseudo-journalists, and not very capable at that.
Foerster can take some great footage, but can't spell a name the same way twice.
Tsoukalos is only interested in sensationalism regardless of the factual evidence to the contrary.
The tin foil hats also love to say "Energy" over and over, without ever saying what form of energy, how it can be measured, units like Amperes or Volts, etc.
I watch only for entertainment, not for historical or archeological facts
I find the "megalithic" period a lot, even in Wikipedia articles. Imho, although there is no such general period, it makes sense for some cultures when talking about this specific culture.
Number one sign!!!!!
The guy making the presentation goes along with every nuance of the accepted paradigm... Nothing can be older than we say it is and any evidence to the contrary is dismissed out of hand... People like Michael cremo are fools and their work is invalid..
For me a red flag is "they don't want you to know this" or "you're out of your mind if you believe"... insert perfectly reasonable believe.
Or - "scientists are very afraid of............"
Belief = fairy pixie dust
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I have a question. In history, has there ever been a concerted effort where one ethnic group has tried to erase, denigrate and disrespect the historical and cultural achievements of another?
Agreed. These are often provocative phrases found in UA-cam videos in order to be clickbait. This is not confined to pseudoscience or pseudo-archeological videos either.
I work in a grocery store. And I use the term "oopa" all the time in reference to something that was clearly grabbed by a customer, and put on a shelf in a spot far away from it's regular shelf spot.
Now that's funny. Really funny.
Excellent use!! I may adopt it for my retail job 😅
An oopa doopa would be an attempt by another customer to put it in the correct place unsuccessfully? I used to help the school librarian, and sometimes oopas and oopa doopas happen in libraries, too. I've even found things written by Error von Dummkopf in the history section instead of Fantasy/SciFi , but have reported them rather than putting them in their proper place, the circular file!
that is my new definition for "OOPA".
out of place groceries.
@@SpydrXIII Out Of Place Aliments
(Aliments definition: Food or edible substances)
The words "orthodox" and "mainstream" made me laugh out loud. A coworker used to always rant about "mainstream" science, always in the context of ancient history. I finally got fed up with it, and said:
"You were totally OK with mainstream science when you needed your coronary bypass. The mainstream is good enough to keep your heart working, but studying the history of the planet- nope, that's gotta be aliens. Pick a lane, because Xenu didn't fix you up. That was just a normal mainstream doctor."
I did get a talking to from my boss for losing my temper, but after a few weeks of our local "researcher" being a lot more agreeable, my boss did thank me for the peace and quiet.
Yes plus all the stuff they riff on in their videos and books are all facts that have been discovered by mainstream science, or artefacts that were discovered by mainstream science. Like when I hear these guys going on and on about how nobody will tell you these things and I'm like: then how do you know about it, if nobody will tell you or talk about it? Because these dudes are definitely not going out there and discovering things themselves, they are just taking the findings of others and riffing on them, that's all they are doing.
Oh yeah! I sometimes talk with a fellow at the gym I work out. He is very vocal about the "plandemic" and how wearing masks is useless and the vaccines are harmful. This man is about my age (71) and he is visibly afflicted with Parkinson's. When I make a reasonable statement like: "I think I will take the advice of medical experts rather than take the word of someone whose sole claim to knowledge is:
"I read it on twitter' ", he claims that I have been indoctrinated by the dogma of experts. I then ask him if he was diagnosed with Parkinson's by a doctor or if he learned about his condition on the internet. I asked why he would take the word of an expert rather than get a second opinion from someone who is an independent thinker. I found that he lost the desire to talk with me after that. boo hoo. We live in strange times.
You need a brain or eye operation . Who are you going to trust . Your Dr or Twitter ?
Dumb analogy. One is a hard science, the other is not. I guess the conspiracy theorist is more intelligent than you...
@@golDroger88 clown
"We have been lied to" is a personal favourite.
Great co-op guys!
Yes, or "they would have us believe" and phrases like that that suggest lies.
"What THEY don't want you to know" and the best, for me is "The New Terrifying Discovery In Egypt That Scares Scientists!" which is the actual title of a UA-cam video.....
@@panchopuskas1 😅 Yup, THEY know the truth but will keep it hidden at any cost. Why? To protect THEMSELVES and THEIR fake mainstream research/science🤣
Great comment. Gave me a good laugh 👍
@@panchopuskas1 It is an amazing new discovery. Why is nobody talking about this?
Another good one is, "Archaeologists have been forbidden from studying this!"
As a big alternative history fan a friend and I had the good fortune to attend a talk given by Erich Von Daniken in London. He even chatted with us afterwards. I could not wait to get home, grab his books from my bookshelf and throw them straight in the rubbish bin. I was cured.
More like Behindlieck Von Cocknocker
How long ago was that? Chariots of the gods is responsible for all this nonsense.
I fell into the von Daniken cesspool as a teenager. It's amazing how quickly it washes off once you get that tiny nudge of the rational.
@@thomasbell7033 much like Ayn Rand, Von Daniken is thrilling for the adolescent mind. Thankfully we grow out of it, and either find other intellectual thrills or buckle down to learn real economics or archaeology (which can also be more thrilling).
@@MarcosElMalo2 Exactly. Couldn't have said it better if I tried.
One of my favourites......"experts say" but we don't know who the experts are, and "it is thought that" but thought by whom ?
Yes - if I see a headline anywhere that says; 'Scientists can't explain' or 'New discovery baffles scientists' I think; what kind of scientists? Archaeologists? Astronomers? Biologists?
Scientists are not all alike - except in the minds of BS artists.
@@LittleNala Even if all the scientists in the field "can't explain" you still need to add the word "yet" and often give today's date.
@@kensmith5694 Good point!! It always seems that between the lines, when the statement is: "scientists can't explain...". In parentheses there is the implication or outright claim: "but I can".
@@LittleNala “Scientists can't explain” will always be true if you just refuse to ask the scientists in the relevant fields. A chemist probably can't explain what the Clovis culture was but an Archeologist also probably can't explain the Haber-Bosch process.
The funny thing is that "mainstream scientists" is a negative word, but "experts" is a positive word. They'll deny everything actual scientists say about a subject, and the next sentence they will appeal to the authority of "experts" to back up their opinions.
Very nicely done guys I'm glad the grown ups are fighting back against all this pseudo science that seems to be getting far too much media coverage.
Wtf are you smoking? These guys are the pseudo intellectuals...........
These people aren't smoking the same stuff you are smoking. I know that's a fact. Enjoy your aliens. @@sweetdudeicecream
@@sweetdudeicecream I ask you your own question.
@@sweetdudeicecream why do you believe that? Can you elaborate or are you just never going to respond because you don’t know?
These fantastic "authors" and self made researchers are clever enough to building a money making machine 😊😊😊 but they are far from being so extraordinary good as Jules Verne in writing phantastic stories but they handle with academic stuff which are interesting for the normal individuals, so they buy such books from GRAHAM better than a science literature, who the normal individuals are thinking I would not understand..... This is a paradox
But I think it could be really a mistake of mainstream academic scientists, that they should better write their specialist literature in an understandable form for all of us.....!!!
I mean.....all archaeological and anthropology stuff is so a big field and extraordinary interesting to anybody that all can gain a lot of MONEY, independent if they tell the truth or not....😅😊😢 It's a paradox like FAKE NEWS 📰🗞️😊
I love Dr. Milano and Milo Rossi. The young and old minds of archaeology. Both are very good teachers of that world.
If Dr. Milano is old then I'm, well, ancient.
“Theorist” is my favorite. You hear it 100 times on every episode of ancient aliens.
"Diiiiidddd aliens convince John Hancock to sign his name really big on the Declaration of Independence???
Ancient Astronaut Theorists say "Yes!""
"Theorist" is what you call yourself when you can't even make up fake credentials. Anybody can theorize about things.
Yeah, nobody understands the difference between theory and hypothesis. It irritates the heck fire out of me.
If your car broke down would you take it to a mainstream mechanic? How do you feel about mainstream dentistry? One red flag of pseudo archeology/history is that the author spends a lot of time talking about himself: how people always fail to notice the author's genius, and how they are so able to think outside the box.
😂 if you want to see some outside of the box mechanics look up an old show called Bush Mechanics. It's hilarious, informative, and pretty entertaining
It basically uses skits to look at Australian aboriginal people's relationship and history with cars.
@@AveragePicker They could do some great episodes in Cuba. Dudes cannibalize parts from Ladas (like Ukrainian built Toyotas), Nissons, and old tractors, and re-machine them to keep US made Chevys and Buicks from the '40s and '50s on the road.
@@russellmillar7132 I moved to Mexico, which is not an undeveloped country (despite what some people think). But there is a lot of poverty and poor people know how to improvise and make do. Sometimes they’ve developed different tricks for making do that are ingenious and get passed on to succeeding generations.
But sometimes stuff I see is scary and dangerous. Electrical work. Improper securing of loads on pick up trucks. People are used to doing things for themselves, but they don’t always have the knowledge or understanding of what it is they’re trying to do.
I think one of my favorite things is the “shade tree mechanic” that doesn’t have a workshop but works under the shade of a tree on the side of the road. I had a friend that worked in an Autobody shop, and when the maestro retired, the workshop building was sold. So my friend moved his own equipment into my stairwell (I live on a second floor, but I’ve got my own first floor entrance), and for the last 8 or 9 years, he works on the street in front of my building, and keeps his tools, paint and other materials inside my front door, to the side of the stairs.
He’s offered to pay rent, but I told him to just pay the electrical bill, because he uses it to run his compressor. The other benefits are that he’s an extra layer of security, and he’s usually there to receive packages if I’m not home. I know someone has my back. During the pandemicm he’d send his assistant out if I needed an errand.
Anyway, I’m rambling. Why did I bring up Luis? Oh, yeah. The dude is a master craftsman of Bondo. And I’ve seen him teach his skills to his cousin, who works as his assistant. There’s a lot of cases when he orders replacement panels to for damaged cars, but when he knows his client can’t afford new parts, he gives them an equal result with Bondo. When it’s all painted, you can’t tell the difference.
@@russellmillar7132 did we even build Ladas here? I know Ukraine had ZAZ-Daewoo assembling some Korean cars long ago (my grandpa used to drive for the local branch), but Lada crap is usually made in Togliatti, which is basically a Soviet era industry town in the middle of nowhere that got Italian name because they were making licensed Fiats since 60s.)))
@@KasumiRINA So they are actually made in Russia? Thanks for that.
If you first heard about the channel on Joe Rogan's podcast you are DEFINITELY watching pseudoarcheology.
HA !!!😀😀😀
I get my history facts from CNN
@@Ancient_Nukes why?
All you need to know is I've got a PHD so quit with the questions@@jellyrollthunder3625
@@jellyrollthunder3625
Spot on!
Someone needs to start a (satirical) pseudo-pseudoarcheology channel… where they call out the mainstream pseudoarcheologists for publishing popular opinions like the ancient astronaut, but they refuse to acknowledge the “truth” that the pyramids were built by time-travelling ninjas. (They cut the rock with their ninja-chopping action.)
It's hard to satirize a group that has, seriously, proposed that Egyptians had tame dinosaurs to build the pyramids with. (I can't find the thing again because I saw it in a compilation of other pyramid-debunking and I got distracted learning about how they used rotating cranes and sandsaws and built ramps inside the pyramids to provide shallower ascending slopes and sort of covered it up after with the rest of the pyramid (like I do my redstone in minecraft!).
Well, I did see that on the Flintstones.
@@neoqwerty Egyptians taming dinosaurs to build pyramids is such an awesome idea that I'm mad it's not true.
Check out Philomena Cunk. It is a satire on the English anthropology shows but it does critique pseudo science as she plays an idiot. One time she forgets to wear pants. It's hilarious at times.
@@josephbelisle5792 she's effectively female Borat except going for British instead of Americans.
13:00 reminds me of an important point Stefan Milo makes:
if the world was interconnected in ancient times as pseudo-archeologists claim, how come there isn't any prior evidence of genetic mixing of peoples or evidence of non-native food cultivation? Like what occurred when the Spanish reached the Americas--Europeans genetically mixed with indigenous peoples of the Americas and brought crops with them home/left theirs there. If these ancient societies were connected then this surely would've happened in those times too..
Unfortunately "great theorists" also believe that the history that is derived by the evidence we have gathered is actually made up by "them", who are hiding how Christians all over the world generated power in great quantities thanks to the shape of the decorations on churches. Oh, and that more people where in San Francisco than "they" tell you in the 18hundreds. Cause picture show more houses than me think needed, therefore wrong
The average conspiracy theorist has never grown an edible plant, so clearly ancient humanity was entirely incapable of farming.
I love this, thanks guys!😁 great video and wonderful collaboration 😊
You’re also making great videos!!!
@@gorillaguerillaDK thank you! That's so kind of you😁
I had no idea this stream happened. I would have loved to see it live. Y'all are my favorites.
@rohanorton thank you!
You're probably subbed to this channel, but have you turned on notifications?
"Controversy", "Mainstream (insert science discipline)", 'Repressed, suppressed", "Darwinist, Evolutionist", "Dogma"
The funny thing is "Darwinist" and "social Darwinist" were coined by eugenicists who considered not breeding people like livestock to be dedicated to "survival of the fittest".
In reality, they were people who objected to treating people like livestock.
@@AZ-697 what?
Darwin , among others, understood an important thing about life, it evolves...this remains true...genetic science cannot be understood without understanding evolution.
many scientific disciplines rely on evolution...
@@AZ-697 Genetics stands on the shoulders of Darwin. How do you reconcile the work of Newton with Special Relativity? With quantum mechanics? (Newton believed in Alchemy by the way.)
@@AZ-697 Another good red flag of pseudoscience is this exact kind of response. Instead of actually responding to what was said you just claim to be better than the others and never put forward any actual argument or evidence.
@@MarcosElMalo2 Al-chemy is just chemistry in original Arabic, same naming pattern as Al-gebra, tho the word alchemy is mostly used for turning lead into gold now. Darwinism can also mean two very different things, either studying naturalism or trying to breed humans in camps, whichever camp you follow lol.
Big respect to you David for talking about not putting your new ideas to the students you're teaching. I've hated hearing from my friends who took courses in the more academic fields who've had their education hampered by professors seeking validation of their ego or clout in their field by using their students as pawns for it.
I had an openly communist professor in college, but didn't play along, even expressed my disagreement with the author the class was centered around. I passed; he didn't hold the disagreement against me.
Despite his adherence to an evil ideology, I respected him for that.
I had a computer science prof spend most of a lecture talking about how you shouldn't make fun of someone who has adult acne. I felt like walking out and doing something more productive with my time, but didn't want to step on his fragile self esteem.
@@Dagobah359 So were you the one who yelled: "PIZZA FACE!" ?
My favorite is: "is it possible that ... fill in far fetched idea ..."
aye a Hancock favourtite as well as 'what if ...'
That's also a fairly overused bait-and-switch tactic, drawing you in with the conspiracy theories . . . only to refute then at the end.
My two most favorite archeology/ history channels on UA-cam ❤
"Megaliths are one of those things that are so easily thrown around" is the most unintentionally wrong sentences I've heard in recent memory...
Underrated comment
Read it as he was saying it made it all the better
Obelix forgetting not everyone fell into the magical brew as a child
And I was just about to author a book contradicting mainstream researchers regarding precision-cut oopah evidence from the megolithic era. It may overturn all orthodox concepts about advanced technology before the Great Reset. 😅 Thanks for the great collab. Keep on educating the world.
"Ancient astronaut theorists believe/theorise bla bla bla" is one of the funniest ways to try to prove something. I've had so many laughs when I watched that show years ago. I was fascinated by that show back then. Nowadays I'm skeptic to all these "alternative archaeology" theories because all of them have only circumstantial evidence. It's so important that there is ppl like you 2 David and Milo keep it up!
😂
Check this out:
"The stone blocks could have been placed there by the use of sound waves. Is it possible? Ancient astronaut theorists think it is".
Not verbatim but close enough. 😂
My son thought he could use syrup as glue when he was five. Thinking something up does not mean it is real.
I went through my Ancient Aliens phase during the late'80s-early '90s. I read a number of books including: "The 12th Planet" by Zecharias Sitchin, and: "Chariots of the Gods" Erich Von Danniken, among others. This was before the internet and before the History Channel was launched (1995). I was lucky enough to have a great conversation with an Assyriologist (who had read 12th Planet), and later a fellow who held a PHD in astronomy. Yes, they were part of mainstream academia, but they were not dogmatic about the claims made. They simply pointed out some flaws in the narrative, in the context of their fields of specialty, and asked brilliant question (skepticism). The whole episode put me on a path that led me to study the history and evolution of science, and to appreciate the work of these two guys.
@@mathiasjonsson8222 That's literally stolen from The Elder Scrolls, like verbatim, the ancient lost Dwemer civilization there is said to have built its underground cities using sound magic. Though the great thing about TES world building is that it's filled with unreliable sources, misinterpretations and baseless speculation so ironically a literal fantasy world has a better grasp on history than these people.
Out of place artifacts do have an academic name. They are called intrusive artifacts. That just means someone dropped a ring or something and it found it's way to a place that doesn't fit.
I read about a dig in south America recently where the archaeologists found a gold finger ring watch in a layer it should not have been in. When they looked at the back it said Seiko 1977. But our alternative friends love using "ooparts" as a killer argument when the truth of the matter is they turn up all the time for all kinds or reasons.
There is actually a real "out of place" video. Time Team series 8 episode 3
@@Fetguf Thanks, I will see if I can find it and have a look.
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Another well known example is when wild animals drag their prey into caves. If the prey was humanoid, that could lead to speculation that the cave was used as a burial site, which suggests that the humanoids in question believed in an afterlife. This is one reason why archaeologists are so meticulous in gathering evidence before forming hypotheses. The presence of human remains isn’t enough, there must be other indications.
@dazuk1969 And when a genuine one is found, they leap immediately to the most unlikely explanation.
My personal example would be to imagine if a dig at a pre-Contact North American site found a clearly Roman coin. Does that mean Romans reached the Americas? No. There have been items of Roman origin found in China, Korea, and Japan, obviously carried on the Silk Road. It's not an unreasonable possibility that a Roman coin could make its way up the Pacific coast via trade until it reached the Inuit-Aleut population who routinely traveled across the Bering Strait, and once it reached Alaska get fed through the extensive trade networks until it reached that site somewhere in North America. It would be surprising, and exciting, but not inexplicable nor would it overturn the existing understanding of history.
"History is written by the victors" is a phrase that instantly sets of all my bullshit alarms.
Is it wrong tho?
@@hassanalkhalaf1115 There are plenty of historical records written by the "losers" and also by outsiders who just observed what their neighbors were doing.
@@hassanalkhalaf1115Funnily enough, yes. All you need to do to write history is (a) be able to write, (b) be able to preserve the writing, and (c) be found by somebody who cares.
While generic "winners" have a leg up in all those categories, it's not identical to being a winner. We have multiple records from various "losers" as well, especially when the loss was partial.
@@LukeChaosToday the propaganda is of course much bigger then before alot of people assume the majority is always right but that is far from always true.
One thing that deserves to be mentioned is that there is a lot more money to be made in pseudo-science than in actual science, which is probably the main motivation for a lot of these people. Like profit margins are a lot higher in de the quackery business than in actual pharmaceutical medicin.
Youre disconnected from reality by about 1 trillion dollars lol. Education boards and the education sector(private sector) in general is 1000s of times bigger than any book or youtube channel talking about alternative history. Durr
@@Kitties-of-Doom What "alternative history"? Like that the American civil war was not about slavery? You really are the one who has no idea. The average historian or archeologist does not make a fraction of what a man like Graham Hancock makes off the poppycock he sells to people like you, who don't have a clue what real science is about.
@@Kitties-of-Doom Do you think the size of a market is the same as its profit margins? Like do you not understand that profit is the difference between costs and income?
@@hedgehog3180 Do you think educational sector is less than one trillion dollars in profit lollol? Its tied into pharma, big oil , automotive and 3 other largest exports into the world as its a private sector holding massive shares in all of those. Youve got no grasp on transnational corporate industrial complex. Idiots that think pseudoscience holds a share in the market are just that.
@@hedgehog3180 Youre slow. The education sector holds millions of shares in all major exports. Oil, pharma, automotive, packaging and everything else. You've got no grasp on economy. Education sector is into trillions in profit as its in a web of a corporate industrial complex.
Two of my favourite History UA-camrs in one Video, nice 😄
When I was a kid in the late seventies and eighties with an interest in archaeology and history, I picked up Chariots of the Gods in the local library and read it. Thank the gods, there was also a scientific book that debunked everything von Daniken said and I got cured at a very early age of pseudoscience/archaeology. You guys do the same work, thank you! You are saving people from a whole lot of nonsense.
awesome to see you two guys together!
Watch out for those click bait titles....... 'Scientists are terrified of this new Archaeological discovery'
100% of the time, the video turns out to be pseudo (or just plain wacky) Archaeology.
The line by itself already shows a complete lack of understanding of science. Scientists aren't afraid of new discoveries ever. If anything, their concerns are in not finding anything of significance.
I like the idea of the "Megalithic Period"
Paleolithic, Neolithic, Megalithic
Old Stone Age, New Stone Age, Big Stone Age.
"Megastoned Period" is a high necessity.
All of them sound like shoegazer band names.
Having been raised by conservative creationists the oop-arts and gradualism/catastrophism are both definitely cross-pollinations between the conspiracy/pseudo-archeology and the biblical creationist camps. And I think one thing that's a bit of an obstacle in counter-acting these sorts of ideas, is that you kinda assume that there's more and less "outlandish" ideas to most of these people, when usually they actually start with some outlandish idea, that glom on other outlandish ideas to that one they start with, without actually being invested in how realistic our plausible those ideas are.
Which I think goes into something I, having come out of that kind of environment, see as a potential misunderstanding for you guys. While they are creative, they're often actually almost vehemently incurious. Like the overlap with extreme religious beliefs, cult-like quackery, and racism isn't coincidental, or even just incidental, these people are not looking for answers or "truth" in they way people in the sciences are, they're looking for new collections of information or narratives that support an idea they already regard as central, hence why if the majority of the evidence seems to be against it, they do not, and will not see it as evidence against that idea, but evidence that the people in those institutions are somehow against them, and perhaps engaged in some massive conspiracy to suppress their "truth". Which is also why, because they think that way, they project and assume everyone else "really" thinks that way too. Their presumption is that because they're starting with a belief or assumption, and trying to find facts to fit that assumption and rejecting anything that doesn't, that everyone else is doing the same any anyone who claims otherwise is either self-deluded (if they're feeling generous), or deliberately lying when they claim otherwise.
i totally forgot about this episode, great interview. you two are both amazing. love your channels and work. thank you for posting.
I used the library as a child in the 60s. My eyes were opened. Best thing was it was sectioned, Fiction and Non Fiction.
And yet, the Bible wasn’t in the fiction section where it belongs….
@@gorillaguerillaDKNot a single person in my life would consider me religious, but you are aware that there are actual historically accurate records in the Bible right? Not all of it is story or metaphor.
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There’s so little of the Bible that contains anything historical, so if that’s the standard you wanna adhere to, we should start putting Historical Fiction in the Non-Fiction section!
@@gorillaguerillaDK Oh really? You probably can’t even provide specific examples of what you define as “of the Bible that contains anything historical?”
The Ukrainian flag on your username tells me all I need to know about you.
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The Ukrainian flag tells you that I wholeheartedly support an allied sovereign country which is under attack by a imperialist neighbouring country that is governed by a wannabe Tzar and his buddies from the Oligarch Bratva in the Kremlin - it says absolutely nadazero about my insight into the Bible or how little of scripture that contains anything historically factual in it, (aside from what also can be seen in Historical Fiction).
We can start with some of the most classic myths, such as Exodus!
Exodus was written during captivity in Babylon, and contains zero actual history!
It’s a narrative designed with two purposes, to inspire hope for freedom and a return, and as a way to make claims to possessions lost during captivity!
The entire differentiation between the Israelites and Canaanites is bonkers, it was in fact a civil war among Canaanites - the Israelites WERE Canaanites! It was strife among those who held on to the broader pantheon of gods and those who started ditching gods and eventually going monotheistic.
There’s a few archaeological findings that indicate that it’s possible that there was a King David, and a King Solomon, but the evidence is very sparse and not especially convincing, (unless someone really wanna be convinced).
Also, just because a book, script, or whatever, mentions something historically accurate, doesn’t make it a history book - again, see the entire genre of historical fiction books!
Oh, and for someone "not religious", you sure get offended extremely quickly just from someone mentioning that the Bible isn’t historical!
But hey, I guess we can’t expect much rational thinking from someone who’s getting such a sore bum over seeing a Ukrainian flag!
*Principals of pseudo history*
Updated today
1. “Ancient” is all one time, and, when my pseudo history requires, all one place
2. every ancient person was *a)* an expert on everything ancient when it fits my pseudo history, but *b)* too stupid to pile up rocks when the pseudo history requires that, especially if the people are not White
3. Establish false dichotomies: “If evidence-based history is imperfect or can’t explain something yet, then my pseudo history must be true.”
4. any “anti-establishment” idea corroborates any other anti-establishment idea, no matter how much they may contradict each other
5. Scholarly credentials are not valuable, but “author” and “researcher” without a relevant degree is
What saddens me is how totally taken in people get by these unfounded theories. They play on the fact most people just don’t know how the ancients actually achieved what they did. The smug verification on bens face while he was on Joe rogan was so annoying, because Joe would never have on Dr Miano to actually tell people the truth of the matter.
It’s not theories, it’s assumptions!
youre slow lolol.
The reason why Miano wouldn't get a Joe Rogan is because Miano is a fool and some of the smartest people in the world end up on the Rogan.
@@Kitties-of-Doom like Elon Musk or the Rock?
Any thumbnail that has a label, "archeologists can't explain this."
@@chucklearnslithics3751 Now I'm tempted to make a thumbnail like that and put it on a video about like astrophysics or something. Archeologists can't explain the formation of this nebula!!!!
@@stefanowohsdioghasdhisdg4806 😂 Footprints found on the moon. Archaeologists can't explain how they got there! 😱
Весели празници и наздраве от България 🍻
You two are exactly what we need. David, I gravitated to your videos because you seem like you would be delighted if any of these theories were true.
you've got to be kidding right? David is going to have to delete half his content and apologize to his students for teaching them bullshit for years if these 'theories' come true.
@@mitchmegaw7201 you're a fool
Oh I know,when they call you "guys" and say "you're not going to believe this" and tell you the mother of all pyramids was built in India....or whatever fallacy etc etc .
GREAT to see you two working together - the New MythBusters! Go get 'em guys!
These guys are cheap propagandists.
@@candui-7 guessing you prefer Ancient Aliens? I have to admit, the "lost civilization" genre really sucked me in for a few years too? Graham Hancock has some brilliant imaginative stories....if only there were some solid evidence? I guess that is the real disconnect, science always requires that pesky "evidence" thingy :)
Ancient Alien conspiracy theory is the flipside of "accepted narrative". Bullshit value.@@MotoGiant
@@MotoGiant Bingo! Compared to fiction and fantasy, where evidence isn't necessary, science seems slow, tedious, sometimes confusing and often contradictory.
@@MotoGiant There was a time when we speculated about conspiracy theories because it was fun. We didn’t take it too seriously (although there were some people that did and spent years of work trying to gather evidence for their theories). Cryptozoology was fun. You know, the Loch Ness monster and Sasquatch and all that. And if you went backpacking in the Pacific Northwest, the legend of Big Foot created a certain spice to the adventure.
There’s an author who wrote novels about conspiracy theories, Robert Anton Wilson. He wrote the Illuminati Trilogy, which is vastly entertaining.
He was once asked if he really believed in conspiracies and he said it wasn’t a matter of belief, but of probabilities. I think this guided me. There was a tiny probability that the Loch Ness Monster was real or that we were being visited by extraterrestrials, but the overwhelming evidence indicated that probably Nessie didn't exist and there were no aliens. I accepted mainstream science, but it was fun to consider the long shot.
Anyway, "alternative science" was an entertainment for most of us. Blaming the CIA was kind of a joke more than a real suspicion.
There's also an interesting (and ambiguous) novel by Umberto Eco, named Foucault's Pendulum. It's worth read if you've got time. It's more about the mindset of serious conspiracy theorists, and not a defense of them.
I look for 'hidden', 'secret' or 'forbidden' when I want a good laugh.
This is very useful, and I really enjoy two of my three archeologists of choice working together! Happy 2024 to you all and the ones you love.
You missed a very common thing. Watch for "could it be" and phrases like that. They are often used to suggest an idea early on that is later taken as being true for a following argument without bothering to provide and evidence that the idea is true.
Another one is the "XXX was able to prove that ..." when the XXX is some other person's name. It is an appeal to authority but in many cases the "authority" is not even a real authority.
“Precision architecture” the term also denotes a rcst theme many pseudo archeologists promote, often using the term when speaking about civilizations in the Americas or Egypt but interestingly never using it when speaking about classical architecture in Rome or Greece. It says a lot when you’re so “amazed” and in disbelief that a people can create structures in the Americas or Egypt but it’s no big deal if they’re greek or Roman.
I don't want to set the box on fire . . . I just want to start a flame in your heart.
The Ink Spots 1938
I immediately love this collab
You guys are hitting the nail squarely on the head. In fact, the level of precision with which you guys incise these topics could scarcely have been achieved with the technology we have today. 🙃
Slightly off topic but Q annon frequently pushes the idea that any expert should be able to explain any complex topic, to any half brained individual, in a few sentences, or they really don't understand it themselves. (Einstein says so !) This of course emboldens the segment that may overlap with pseudo science enthusiasts to assume that "mainstream academics with all their fancy degrees don't know everything". Many today have become experts at missing the point.
Congratulations on your upcoming wedding Dr. M.
The other thing I notice is they don't reference scientific experiments or method or bring up points that disprove their theories. Like Ghost hunters SAY they are using science to prove ghosts but they never investigate a house that has never been documented to be haunted... as a "control"...
Two of my favorite channels together, awesome!
Setting the box in fire. I love it!
If an airbrush painting of a hot ancient Egyptian is talking at you in a robot voice, you MIGHT be watching pseudo archeology.
Yes!!! Milo and Dr. Miano!
Got no problems with people having alternative theories, but Handcock and Uncharted x, etc are just charlatans praying on spiritually and logically lost
@@1sanitat1 He sorta presents a theory, but it's at best on as robust grounds as LePlongeur's "Mu is real" theory, like an extremely clumsy gap-filling.
@@neoqwertyYou cant argue with the atlantis nuts, they dont believe in science or logic its all spiritual and conspiricy
You two are amazing. Thank you for keeping the lies at bay.
This was informative. Keep up the work.
I’ve been hoping these two would collab for quite some time! Great work guys absolutely loved this livestream!
I hate that I couldn't make this livestream; two of my favorite channels together!
Two great archeology UA-camrs linking up! Love it!
I was waiting for this mashup :)
This was 18 months ago, do you even internet bro? You were waiting? lols Embarrassing
@@atheistdingo6273 lol, a troll, how droll...maybe I was just waiting for the god of UA-cam to suggest it. I have a lot of interests, I seldom let myself binge on any one facet of science. Tho the god of UA-cam seems happy to route my idle time into the John Oliver rabbithole, I don't whine about it.
Very helpful. We do watch all these channels and it gets confusing.
That's why your Shorts/videos are the best.
Thank you. Looking forward to more adventures in 2024.
👋
I'm an amateur with a background in procrastination and self-distraction.
One of the areas of interest I focus on is Han Chinese clothing. The worst word in the entire dictionary for me is (no offense intended) "ancient".
If you try to search for information on ancient Chinese clothing, either in print or online, you invariably become inundated with things as recent as 19th century as if nothing in east Asia changed at all until then.
More collaboration please!
Love the work both of you do! Keep safeguarding "mainstream" and "orthodox" Science!
I'm glad you mentioned Praveen Mohan
In my country people are way too brainwashed to see through his tricks
This is a collaboration never goes wrong
You two, the Scourges of Fake Science. I'm so glad that I had great science teachers in the 1960s. They taught me the scientific method and how to tell fake from real facts. Keep up the good work.
Great conversation!👍 David, to your point about how people think you don't challenge the system. After watching enough of your videos I definitely have the sense that you care deeply about what we currently know, but crave new ideas. You pointed out though, that the ideas have to go through rigger. It is not the job of someone else to be convinced, if your data and evidence is compelling and strong it will do the work of changing minds.
Overall I think your style of debunking is extremely effective. You don't attack those who challenge, you ask for more data. Ben over at unchartedX, unfortunately, still seems to think that a very small sampling of unverifiable pots is his smoking gun. He's far too religious, IMO.
Ahh yes, Ben from UnsupportedX. I have often brought up points of contention in the comment section to the claims he makes in his videos . To his credit (?) he occasionally responds. Sadly, however, he never addresses the points I make, choosing instead to reply as if I am too dense: "you obviously don't understand precision!" or too indoctrinated: "you are a victim of mainstream dogma" or my favorite "what are you so wadded up about? Why not make your own video?" This guy is getting fat off the alt-history gravy train and can't be bothered to consider all the evidence that refutes his crap.
Now this is an awesome collaboration, two of my favorite historical content creators
This was awesome. Please link up with Miniminute Man again!
Some artifacts might be out of place.
But that's mainly because the British museum won't give them all back yet
Minim vids are great nice to see this colab
Milo used the term "Generalist" last night in Orono. I like that. Because it's a perfect description. Standing Ovation, well deserved. Thanks again Milo.🖤🖤
This applies more broadly to pseudo-science, meta-physics and other forms of woo; but anytime someone says the word energy and they cannot elaborate on precisely what form of energy, what instrument they use to detect it, or what unit of measure they used to quantify it; you should always take whatever they just said and replace the word energy with the phrase "imaginary, made-up, bullshit" because that is invariably all they are talking about.
Someone is not using the term metaphysics correctly, possibly someone you heard it from. It's an area of philosophy having to do with how we know things.
Metaphysics can refer to the study of things outside objective experience.
@@WorldofAntiquity when will you accept my challenge to do a live debate?? Cmon big guy. You're the debunker aren't you??? Let's do this. Put your money where your mouth is.
@@WorldofAntiquity you quack fraud
@@michaelb7498 As soon as you become a well-known and influential spokesperson for the alt-history movement.
Love it! Dr. Miano and Milo in conversation - what a treat!
I do my own pipe work, because I do not trust mainstream plumnmers.
I believe the monoliths in earlier ages make sense based on a labor expenditure analyses. Cutting consumes a tremendous number of man hours over a long period. Take a stone, spend time to cut it in half, then move the two pieces in two movements using half the manpower needed to move the single one once, but taking twice as long. The transport takes the same number of man-hours. There is no manpower savings in moving smaller ones twice versus the large one once, but the labor loss comes in stone cutting. Efficiency occurs in moving the largest stone possible.
"So the Templars...." 98% of the time, there's some shite behind that one.
Thank you for the video, this is important. Happy holidays!
I can be said to be in a middle position between mainstream scientists and pseudo-science. I myself work in the field of architecture and love ancient history. I don't believe in aliens, I don't believe in ancient super technologies, but I do believe that the current timeline of history is poorly understood and it is likely that we will find a lot of evidence that the Bronze Age is much longer. In the 90s, scientists would have ridiculed you if you had said about the probability of the existence of Karakhan Tepe and Gobekli Tepe.
The reason for the existence of pseudoarcheology is that science itself often does not allow the development of any theories, and this applies not only to archeology, but also to chemistry, physics, genetics and geology, because scientists say that something is impossible.
As one person said, what's the difference between science and pseudoscience? 50 years.
I think this is the nuance these conversations often miss. We are constantly reevaluating our ancient history.
Science allows for theories when they have evidence. I could say I have a theory that you try to chat up children. Would you say that's a problem if I don't present any evidence for my theory?
@@mg-ew2xf that's the problem. Many of accepted theories of today didn't have any evidence in past. For example, the atomic theory of Democritus, Alfred Wegener's theory of continental drift and event Copernicus' heliocentric system.
If we take modern science the theory of younger dryas theory originally was considered as pseudo-science, but now it has many supporters among scientific community.
Touché. You are trying to laugh at people who say "government is lying to you about shape of the Earth", because you debunk only the second part... Do I think tRump's government lied about vaccines, warp speed and all? No. Pfizer ones are good. Do I think Obama and Merkel lied when they said russian reboot is good and putin won't invade? Of course, I can hear the explosions outside my window... I deliberately chose one time the orange was on the right side, he supported vaccinations, and the horrible foreign policy of the West before (and during) his administration...
Governments aren't to be trusted. Western media lied about white-washing putin so many times, we in Ukraine consider New York Times a Kremlin-run paper... what it doesn't mean that russian media is better, it's WAY worse, like you can literally do the opposite they suggest, all the time. Problem in conspiracy nuts isn't that they're skeptical of mainstream but that they blindly believed it and then got their trust betrayed, so now become reactionaries who think that for some silly reason your government wants you to die instead of being healthy and paying more taxes forever.
Does anyone REALLY think that proving the Earth isn't a dinosaur shape would somehow stop gullible people from thinking the guys who sold weapons to Iraq, AND Iran, and currently export missile components to russia think about your well-being? No. The problem isn't mistrust in the government, which is warrented, it's blindly trusting foreign, hostile governments... like FFS, just because NATO leaders are crooked and want to buy oil from russians without those pesky Ukrainians complaining doesn't mean you can bloody believe in TikTok under Chinese Communist party's watchful eye!
love you guys
Looking into the history of plant and animal domestication is what finally ended any hope I had that there might be even semi technologically advanced, ancient civilizations.
You do need to define the "semi-technological" part of it. The long bow is a technology.
@@kensmith5694"Advanced" is the key word there, I believe.
I love Milo's quote in one of his shorts, of "You don't need to invent a secret government to be mad at, you can just be mad at the actual government"
I don't know quite how deliberate it is from all sources, but there is a clear trend of saying or implying things like "the government is lying to you", "the experts are trying to fool you", "experts don't want to admit A" it is all sort of designed to make people mistrust experts or professionals, such that the ignorance of people, or inability to understand or put in the work to understand different fields can be turned into a willingness to listen to the sources of these kinds of statements or implications. it is a bit like stopping someone in the street and giving them back their wallet that they dropped, suddenly with no reason at all you feel like some person is trustworthy, when the fact is that you can't know whether they picked your pocket or found your wallet in the snow. it is kind of similar to that i think, none of these videos actually earn any of the trust they inspire in people, they just give them their wallet back and there we are, they now seem nice and like they are going out of their way to inform people, when in fact it is just a very easy method for stealing peoples attention and trust.
Hook, line, and sinker of flat-earthers for example, is not that the Earth is flat, it's that we're being lied to. You can have a cube-earther or donut-earther and the hook would be the same.
@@D3adCl0wn yeah
@@D3adCl0wn that's because debunkers focus on wrong things. The governments ARE lying to people, but not in the way conspiracy nuts (which are often just supported by hostile actors) get fooled into... for example, one of the reasons a lot of Black people in USA are skeptical about vaccines and doctors is because of pretty horribly history of lies and abuse by Americans medics against their community. So instead of trying to debunk Earth shape, you need to focus on why people feel betrayed or left out by the state, and touch on the real issues that are obscured by conspiratorial nonsense...
Example, USA lied during Iran-Contra affair. Arming their enemies... people bring that up (or whatever related to Saddam) and assume the opposite side is truthful and eat up russian or Chinese propaganda with zero critical thinking... it's one of the reasons TikTok is harmful: undiluted CCP controlled platform. There are cooks who see "UK public broadcaster" label on BBC and scream it's propaganda while getting mad at russia today correspondent from UK like Galloway getting label of being labeled as "russian state media", which he is.
Address people's actual worries instead of just debunking each conspiracy at the time... you're fighting phantoms otherwise, a hydra, cut off one head, two more grow. SOMEONE WHO LOST TRUST IN MEDIA AFTER IRAQ WON'T RECOVER IT AFTER YOU PROVE THE HORIZON TO THEM, the issues are deeper and governments don't help it.
Not taking anything away of what you said but being critical of the government and reading between the lines is a key factor to growing up. Not believing everything you're being told especially not by politicians isn't something which should be belittled.
Loved the video.
David, once you've published your ideas please please PLEASE do a video about it because your presentation style would suit me better than reading an academic paper
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I snort laughed lol well played my friend
@@gregorystevens6540 welcome to the ilustrous circle of selfpublished UA-cam comment authors.
thanks for letting us listen in to this informed chat.
"History Channel" out of the US is one and a pseudo-scientific crap channel. Gotta admire the Prof as he has a lot of crap to debunk.
Very important video. Thank you so much for this!
My favourite term is "mainstream archaeologists ".A red flag that bullshit is about to follow .
I was just thinking how cool it would be if Milo was on your channel! Wonderful! Lucky me!
Pseudo videos generally ask lots of questions but give no answers.
I am so glad that you and many minute man have come together to fight the forces of evil
I know of FUPA, but that probably different artifacts
lmfao thanks for that. I needed a good laugh this morning.
This is needed, the vocabulary being used is so obvious once you know what to look for.
This stone is too perfect, humans couldn't do it.
This building is too big, humans couldn't do it.
This computer is too smart (Antikithera mechanism), humans couldn't make it.
Every time someone says the ancient humans couldn't do this or that I find it very offensive. The same species of human walks the planet today as 3000 years ago. The Romans could have gone to the moon if they had the inclination to do so. Nothing different from their human brain and ours in terms of ability they just applied themselves to other tasks. Ancient humans actually seem way smarter and more creative than modern humans to me.
Humans couldn't make the Antikythera mechanism, but were able to determine what it was despite it being corroded into a solid lump.
Yeah. Sure.
I hate the way people treat ancient populations as stupid. Very, very few modern people would have the day-to-day knowledge needed to survive in the past.
And one Roman did go to the Moon! Lucian of Samosata! He tells the tale in his novel "A True Story"!
Of course, the opening of the book is an explanation of how, unlike other authors of books on travels to distant lands, he's admitting its all a lie, despite the title.
The one who has real knowledge would surely have low or no ego issues 😂
I love having you boys on my screen at the same time - David is my Alan Grant, and Milo is my Indy - Awesome, beautiful fellas, both of you!
More please! :)
Need to watch the full video!
But Milo, my man, I know we are of the broke professional generation, investing in a small webcam so you can set it up to be slightly angled down, it’ll make a difference for how your interviews look
The last time I heard about gradualism and catestrohism they were purely geological
Pseudoarchaeologists and pseudoscientists love lifting real terminology and misusing it
Biological, too -- was evolution gradual or developed in bursts of changes. Like with technology, it's both.
Thank you.