id personally say using the mossy keys is ok especially since you'd need to kill the spawns anyway, making it basically impossible to kill the boss under your rules. Go for it.
I agree. I think its safe to consider the monster spawn a "Quest NPC" for the challenge rules as it is specifically only an enemy spawned by doing something that offers a reward.
Go ahead and use the mossy keys, I'd say it falls into the same area as having to fight zamorak/saradomin mages for hard clues, its a part of processing the drop.
You should use such items like the Mossy key, everyone is making good points on why it technically falls under the "got the item" category, but I'd say it's also just more variety and fun for the content. :)
Not gonna lie, when I started watching the first episode I wasn't immediately a believer in this series but I quickly became hooked and look forward to more uploads. Very pleasantly surprised
Yes. I think you should be able to use the mossy keys. It's just like if you got a master casket and got a mimic, you would fight it even though you got the casket from a recourse
Couldnt sleep last night so watched the whole series and just woke up to watch the last one. Kinda crying irl cuz i know the next episode gonna take a while… cant wait tho!
I’m always so excited to see another episode of this series. The concept is so intriguing, there are so many strategic decisions early that could make or break end game. The wolf bones pathway to unlocking fletching is crazy, good job
You are making exceptions for quest, which is 100% fair! But with that... I'd say yes use the keys. To me it becomes processing a drop. The same way killing a monster in a quest is just a step in the quest. Killing bryophita is just a step in processing the key.
That animation cooks so hard. Put it earlier and more people will see it but I understand the love for the transition which is awesome you are great! Good job!!!!!❤❤❤🎉
the best osrs series by far! I think using things like mossy keys / jad that sort of things is perfectly fine. I don't thin it takes away from the spirit of the account and adds some fun content to watch
I say use whatever you get as drops, keys what have you. You got it as a drop so seems fair game to me. And especially with your goal being to get a fire cape, that has all different levels of combats at once which goes against the rules you put yourself, whatever you do on the account is for yours (and viewers) enjoyment so like so many others have already said, use em up! More content! ❤😊 Already commented on the video but thought that comment was long enough so had to make this other comment lmfao. But love the series rargh keep up the great work man!
If you use a resizable game screen, you can detach your inventory and move it over the altar so you can spam toggle the inventory screen to speed up your prayer training
Guessing your next few monsters - Lot of decent resource monsters coming up 44- Probably Zombies unless something can be done with Orgre Coffin Keys 45- Skeletons or Undead Lumberjacks if you can Temple Treck? Gangsters tho if can be done provide a great source of planks 46- Animated Steel Armor 47- Defo Tarns Lair Zombies 48- Baby Dragons unless you saw Muddy Keys as more viable(Chaos Dwarves)? 49 - Fever spiders lowkey kinda nice 50- I'm seeing Gangsters or Tarns Zombies again
51 - Molanisk would be nice if viable. Otherwise Earth Warriors 52 - Bloodworms, but Rev Pyrefiends would be sick if possible 53 - Ice Giants or Lizardmen for their fabric and seeds 54 - Vampyre Juvinate if you can at this point otherwise I guess Battle Mages 55 - Swamp Crabs because herblore secondary? Otherwise Killerwats(runes and mystic staff) Okay that's all I have time for lol
I think you should be allowed to do slayer. Stipulation that you can only use a combat style that is level 99 and you can’t pick up the drops (for slayer tasks that aren’t your current combat level target). Having a higher slayer level would open up so many monsters and seeing you not be able to pick up good drops on the way would also be enjoyable. You could also do something real shitty like not allowing skips.
Hi Rargh! I think if you would get your hands on tree seeds and grow your own trees, you should be allowed to cut their logs. This way you could train WC for Lost City or some other good quests :)
You can turn those wolfbone arrow tips into ogre arrows for additional xp! Since you have to chop an achey tree during the quest, if you just don’t finish the quest.. sounds like some good loophole xp :-)
Adding to the use the Mossy Keys vote, and also any Ensouled Heads you have recieved thus far as yhats you processing the drop, I think it makes it more interesting to do so, and makes certian Monsters worth considering even more due to drops in a similar situation
Okay I know the account is crazy and would take a while to grind but just hearing the "took well WELL over 13 hours for these skeletons" is fucking INSANE bro! Love the series keep it up, I love watching shit like this cause it's such a super cool idea but not something I could ever do 😂😂 and especially with your commentary makes it great to watch 😊
I actually think when you do level 98 and 115, you should be able to kill all barrows brothers at those levels. Its part of the same system. Two of them are 98 and the rest are 115. I think just kill all of them at their respective levels.
Yet another sick episode - definitely use the keys for all the reasons people mention. Wondering what’s the point in animated steel armour though? Isn’t there methods to collect tokens that don’t require killing a monster? Obv it’d take much more time but not sure I’m missing something here
I feel if youre killing hill giants/moss giants and you get giant keys or mossy keys you should be able to use them as they are a resource of that 1k kill grind.
Gonna agree with everyone saying to use the key. Since fighting bosses like obor and bryo is reliant on random drops, then getting to fight them should be considered a benefit of getting the drop and thus be an exception to the level bracket
We can set up a statistical hypothesis test to interrogate the claim of 1/60 drop rate for mossy keys. Since each moss giant kill can be considered an independent trial with two outcomes (key drop or no key drop), and we are counting the number of successes (key drops) in a fixed number of trials (1000 kills), the binomial distribution is the appropriate model. Under this model, we have the null hypothesis (H₀: p = 1/60 or p = 0.0167) and the alternative hypothesis (Hₐ: p ≠ 1/60 or p ≠ 0.0167). Your experiment resulted in 5 keys in 1000 trials, or sample proportion of 5/1000 = 0.005. The standard error of the sample proportion under the null hypothesis is SE = sqrt[(0.0167 * (1 - 0.0167)) / 1000] ≈ 0.00406. The test statistic is the z-score: z = (0.005 - 0.0167) / 0.00406 ≈ -2.88. The two-tailed p-value associated with z = -2.88 is approximately 2 * P(Z < -2.88) = 2 * 0.0020 = 0.0040. Compared with a significance level of α = 0.05, we see that the p-value (0.0040) is less than the significance level (0.05), and the null hypothesis is rejected. The conclusion is that there is sufficient evidence to reject the claimed drop rate of 1/60 on the wiki.
There's been multiple reports that the 1/60 is bugged and doesn't align with what the wiki says. Tested it myself on my main and went way drier than the 1/60 as well.
I feel like the wiki is wrong about the wildy drop rate. Cuz I had similar luck when I was farming keys. The only time I saw higher rates was when I was on a slayer task.
I say yes to using the key. If you want to be extra sure about not violating the integrity of your concept, for every kill of Bryophyta subtract 1 from your total of that level monster you can kill in the future, so 10 Bryophyta kills would mean just 990 kills of other level 128 stuff down the line. It’s like a weird line of advance. But I’d personally say that these keys will be so rare I wouldn’t bother so you don’t lose track.
so there's like 2 options for barrows I think? either you just send 1000 barrows chests or you do like 500 karil and ahrim at 98 and then 250 of the four other brothers when you get there?
You should be able to use drops like mossy keys as your only processing a drop so anything like.mossy key giants key totem pieces you should be able to use them and killing the boss that comes along with it could be put in the same jar as killing a boss in a quest
Use the keys! It's a resource and you'll never accumulate 1k of them
Does he kill the mages that spawn with clues or does he drop those clues
i'd also say the same for things like skotizo. Makes decisions of where to kill monsters more intresting.
On a similar note is superior slayer monsters, if you spawn one while killing a monster in your bracket you should be able to kill the superior.
Plus, think about the bloodveld superior bussy
Yeah I'd consider it as an extension of the monster you're killing. Like a mimic on a clue scroll or superior on a slayer task
id personally say using the mossy keys is ok especially since you'd need to kill the spawns anyway, making it basically impossible to kill the boss under your rules. Go for it.
I agree. I think its safe to consider the monster spawn a "Quest NPC" for the challenge rules as it is specifically only an enemy spawned by doing something that offers a reward.
Just think of it as a moss giant superior. I think should use
Go ahead and use the mossy keys, I'd say it falls into the same area as having to fight zamorak/saradomin mages for hard clues, its a part of processing the drop.
You should use such items like the Mossy key, everyone is making good points on why it technically falls under the "got the item" category, but I'd say it's also just more variety and fun for the content. :)
the series pushing rargh from just a pvp challenge participant to a TITAN OF THE SNOWFLAKES
Dude lowkey on the Gielinor Games training arc
Use the key brother!! Its a drop at the end of the day regardless of what its attached to. Love the series
This man finally did it, he finally got into Tarn's Lair like he always wanted
The length and quality of these vids combined with the frequency youre releasing them at is astonishing. Do the keys
Not gonna lie, when I started watching the first episode I wasn't immediately a believer in this series but I quickly became hooked and look forward to more uploads. Very pleasantly surprised
Yes. I think you should be able to use the mossy keys. It's just like if you got a master casket and got a mimic, you would fight it even though you got the casket from a recourse
I played Runescape on and off for like 13 years and watching Rargh and Link is suuch a trip down memory lane!
Couldnt sleep last night so watched the whole series and just woke up to watch the last one. Kinda crying irl cuz i know the next episode gonna take a while… cant wait tho!
I’m always so excited to see another episode of this series. The concept is so intriguing, there are so many strategic decisions early that could make or break end game.
The wolf bones pathway to unlocking fletching is crazy, good job
Refreshed YT at the right time
im so busy with things in life right now. but i make sure not to miss this series!! always looking forward to watching this!
I've only really watched And Then We Fight.
Awesome series man! Looking forward to keeping up with this. Ranger boots soon surely.
You are making exceptions for quest, which is 100% fair!
But with that... I'd say yes use the keys.
To me it becomes processing a drop. The same way killing a monster in a quest is just a step in the quest.
Killing bryophita is just a step in processing the key.
the sounds in that barrows chest render you made was really nice
Meal prep kit? What a joke. When i was young, we called those TV dinners and you ate those while crying alone on a couch, after a divorce.
Id love to see you use the mossy keys. I honestly love this series and don't mind seeing stuff like that included.
LOVE this series Rargh! long time fan, keep it up and happy new year
That animation cooks so hard. Put it earlier and more people will see it but I understand the love for the transition which is awesome you are great! Good job!!!!!❤❤❤🎉
the best osrs series by far! I think using things like mossy keys / jad that sort of things is perfectly fine. I don't thin it takes away from the spirit of the account and adds some fun content to watch
I say use whatever you get as drops, keys what have you. You got it as a drop so seems fair game to me. And especially with your goal being to get a fire cape, that has all different levels of combats at once which goes against the rules you put yourself, whatever you do on the account is for yours (and viewers) enjoyment so like so many others have already said, use em up! More content! ❤😊 Already commented on the video but thought that comment was long enough so had to make this other comment lmfao. But love the series rargh keep up the great work man!
I really enjoy this series i like all the time where you talk strategy
You know, I was thinking lately that the barrows brothers would be a cool addition later on. Glad you are thinking the same way ❤
Yay another segment of this legendary journey. Got me tempted to try and do this type of playstyle
Really great episode. I was on board with the hypothetical Soul Wars/PC as exceptions so I'd defo be okay with Mossy Keys.
If you use a resizable game screen, you can detach your inventory and move it over the altar so you can spam toggle the inventory screen to speed up your prayer training
My favorite part of the series is hands down opening all the clues
Guessing your next few monsters - Lot of decent resource monsters coming up
44- Probably Zombies unless something can be done with Orgre Coffin Keys
45- Skeletons or Undead Lumberjacks if you can Temple Treck? Gangsters tho if can be done provide a great source of planks
46- Animated Steel Armor
47- Defo Tarns Lair Zombies
48- Baby Dragons unless you saw Muddy Keys as more viable(Chaos Dwarves)?
49 - Fever spiders lowkey kinda nice
50- I'm seeing Gangsters or Tarns Zombies again
51 - Molanisk would be nice if viable. Otherwise Earth Warriors
52 - Bloodworms, but Rev Pyrefiends would be sick if possible
53 - Ice Giants or Lizardmen for their fabric and seeds
54 - Vampyre Juvinate if you can at this point otherwise I guess Battle Mages
55 - Swamp Crabs because herblore secondary? Otherwise Killerwats(runes and mystic staff)
Okay that's all I have time for lol
42 slayer for fever spiders is a stretch
@@ItsOvechkin Oof that's right. Then he can basically only do Mounted terrorbird gnomes
The yew shortbow is a "yew"uge upgrade
you always make my day when you upload these :D
TY FOR ADDING IT INTO THE TITLE. YOU THE GOAT
I think you should be allowed to do slayer. Stipulation that you can only use a combat style that is level 99 and you can’t pick up the drops (for slayer tasks that aren’t your current combat level target). Having a higher slayer level would open up so many monsters and seeing you not be able to pick up good drops on the way would also be enjoyable. You could also do something real shitty like not allowing skips.
1:16 theyre like 'no paparazzi please"
This series is awesome Rargh keep it up!!
Use the mossy keys! Also go kill the champion skeleton with your scroll!
Hi Rargh! I think if you would get your hands on tree seeds and grow your own trees, you should be allowed to cut their logs. This way you could train WC for Lost City or some other good quests :)
You can turn those wolfbone arrow tips into ogre arrows for additional xp!
Since you have to chop an achey tree during the quest, if you just don’t finish the quest.. sounds like some good loophole xp :-)
The moss giant spot in the wildy may be one of the most nostalgic spots in the wildy ...
I like that SpinachRoll you got there 1:13
Those newly skinned moss giants should be called Fungiants.
About time lol I was getting nervous you gave up lol! Absolutely love this
@@Dimination36 Never! Just takes time
@ can’t express the amount of enjoyment these episodes bring me haha
Yeah agree with most people - use the keys and champion scrolls! Similar to clue scrolls for me, sometimes you’ll have to kill to complete the scroll
surely use the keys? no way you'll ever obtain 1k of them
This series is so good man
You can still do barrows! When you get to the right level you can just kill the one brother, still gives you a chance at a barrows piece.
Adding to the use the Mossy Keys vote, and also any Ensouled Heads you have recieved thus far as yhats you processing the drop, I think it makes it more interesting to do so, and makes certian Monsters worth considering even more due to drops in a similar situation
could have used the keys to make Byrophyta the last of the mossies. at this point, use em!
Okay I know the account is crazy and would take a while to grind but just hearing the "took well WELL over 13 hours for these skeletons" is fucking INSANE bro! Love the series keep it up, I love watching shit like this cause it's such a super cool idea but not something I could ever do 😂😂 and especially with your commentary makes it great to watch 😊
I got a question, why not drop the altar piece from the quest, you're still doing the quest everytime you do a barrows run, just exploiting a loophole
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feel like that'd go against the spirit of the challenge
4:37 Headband is needed for a hard clue step in deep wildy as well so it's a nice thing to get.
I actually think when you do level 98 and 115, you should be able to kill all barrows brothers at those levels. Its part of the same system. Two of them are 98 and the rest are 115. I think just kill all of them at their respective levels.
I love this series dude
:') Thats the craziest use for Barrows I've ever seen XD
Of course Rargh ends up in Tarn's Lair as soon as humanly possible
Love the series, keep it up!
I'd compare mossy keys to clues. It's a sporadic boss, not a grindable one, so consider it a bonus as an uncommon drop.
For sure use the items! Crystal keys, mossy keys, brimstone keys are all the same in my eyes! Rewards from a monster, not a seperate monster :)
1:22 They're facing backwards because everybody just minigame teleports. They've never seen someone enter from the outside lol
RARGH, how have you not deemed this challenge as "The Grand Quest"?
Yet another sick episode - definitely use the keys for all the reasons people mention.
Wondering what’s the point in animated steel armour though? Isn’t there methods to collect tokens that don’t require killing a monster? Obv it’d take much more time but not sure I’m missing something here
The Champion Scroll gives Slayer XP after the fight👍🏼
Love this series.
"This video is sponsored by.."
*tap right hand side of screen 5 times*
I feel if youre killing hill giants/moss giants and you get giant keys or mossy keys you should be able to use them as they are a resource of that 1k kill grind.
Gonna agree with everyone saying to use the key. Since fighting bosses like obor and bryo is reliant on random drops, then getting to fight them should be considered a benefit of getting the drop and thus be an exception to the level bracket
I think we might can forgive you completely for the mossy keys as a treat for good behavior
Been waiting forever for this!
2:13
The most DEDICATED man, willing to have his life be ended to accomplish his goal! Masculinity incarnate!!
We can set up a statistical hypothesis test to interrogate the claim of 1/60 drop rate for mossy keys. Since each moss giant kill can be considered an independent trial with two outcomes (key drop or no key drop), and we are counting the number of successes (key drops) in a fixed number of trials (1000 kills), the binomial distribution is the appropriate model. Under this model, we have the null hypothesis (H₀: p = 1/60 or p = 0.0167) and the alternative hypothesis (Hₐ: p ≠ 1/60 or p ≠ 0.0167). Your experiment resulted in 5 keys in 1000 trials, or sample proportion of 5/1000 = 0.005. The standard error of the sample proportion under the null hypothesis is SE = sqrt[(0.0167 * (1 - 0.0167)) / 1000] ≈ 0.00406. The test statistic is the z-score: z = (0.005 - 0.0167) / 0.00406 ≈ -2.88. The two-tailed p-value associated with z = -2.88 is approximately 2 * P(Z < -2.88) = 2 * 0.0020 = 0.0040. Compared with a significance level of α = 0.05, we see that the p-value (0.0040) is less than the significance level (0.05), and the null hypothesis is rejected. The conclusion is that there is sufficient evidence to reject the claimed drop rate of 1/60 on the wiki.
There's been multiple reports that the 1/60 is bugged and doesn't align with what the wiki says. Tested it myself on my main and went way drier than the 1/60 as well.
Anyone else grab snacks or food before watching this video knowing it’s gonna be a banger?
27:38 Barrows.
Thanks.
I feel like the wiki is wrong about the wildy drop rate. Cuz I had similar luck when I was farming keys. The only time I saw higher rates was when I was on a slayer task.
I say yes to using the key. If you want to be extra sure about not violating the integrity of your concept, for every kill of Bryophyta subtract 1 from your total of that level monster you can kill in the future, so 10 Bryophyta kills would mean just 990 kills of other level 128 stuff down the line. It’s like a weird line of advance.
But I’d personally say that these keys will be so rare I wouldn’t bother so you don’t lose track.
Finally! Thought you'd had christmas and forgot about us all.
YESSSSSSSS! Bring on the great content!!
The edits are epic! Gotta say.
i know these take time but dang im always so excited for the release
I think consumable resources that drop that grant you access to another NPC to kill should be acceptable. Think mossy keys, totem pieces, etc.
Time for me to feast I’ve been waiting for this
What plug in do you use for the hit splats?
To harvest death runes, do cats count as a shop bought item? If you do Brine Rats you'll get plenty of noted fish
Use the mossy keys. You're claiming loot like with any other key in the game. Killing Bryophyta = opening a chest basically.
I tink its totaly fine to use any keys u get to kill temporary bosses so that also counts for skotiso and mimic
Use the key man. You earned it from a drop.
Mossy keys should be absolutely fine.
YESSSSSSSSS new episode!!!!! POGGERSSSSSSS
How did you keep the xp lamps after dying? I thought they are destroyed on death
"The herb situation is absolutely insane" now I know the title of the next video
Nah I have something much better cooking for next episode
Maybe the bosses unlocked via tokens can be rewards for hitting the level of the boss?
If you pass the combat level of the bryophita spawns, that can unlock bryophita.
so there's like 2 options for barrows I think? either you just send 1000 barrows chests or you do like 500 karil and ahrim at 98 and then 250 of the four other brothers when you get there?
id say the fairest option for using them would be you can only use them as part of that monster level kills
You should be able to use drops like mossy keys as your only processing a drop so anything like.mossy key giants key totem pieces you should be able to use them and killing the boss that comes along with it could be put in the same jar as killing a boss in a quest
Why dont you use longer view distance?
Wooop! clicked to check if a vid was out earlier
Key is a resource. Use them for sure.
How did he get the dragon scimmy without use of shops ?
Got it as a drop!