Side Pressure Challenge: Voice of Armwrestling vs Pound for Pound Armwrestling
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- *Don`t try this if you are new to sport- at least 3 years experience needed!!!
We had equipment malfunction that we noticed at edit. Hope You still will enjoy the video.
Inspiration for this is Ryan Bowen and Todd Hutchings testing their 1 REP max at Ryans house in Australia. So Coach Ray, Janis Amolins, Vladislavs "Vlad The Destroyer" Krasovskis, Raimonds Antonovis and Toms Rozitis took the challenge to test out 1 rep max on our side press using Todd and Ryan vectors. We tried to recreate the situation as close as possible, but we still need to have training session together to test it all on the same equipment. Hope You guys enjoy it, Stay Strong & Love Armwrestling. Handle was smaller than what they used 60 mm, best we could find.
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Haha....you guys are awesome. Well played. Todds 1RM on his machine is 77kg. I believe my machine is a friction beast lol. Love to get you guys down here for a test. 😁😁😂😂
One day it will happen, will be best video on You Tube :)
Ryan is your tower from titan fitness?
Yes, do a collab please!
Nothing to do with friction Ryan.. As very clearly demonstrated at Zloty. ;)
@@Offender666 and what have you accomplished?
I never thought that as a 45 year old guy from the USA that I’d be watching a bunch of guys from Latvia everyday. I love your channel keep up the good work.
Thats nice to hear! 💪🏻👍🏻
And myself at 63” the training videos too me are amazing.
I dont care if it is exactly the same as Bowen’s setup. I like seeing these friendly rivalry videos. Keep them coming!
Thanks, it was fun
Video quality issues make this look a little like an old VHS tape from the 90s. So I'm just pretending these very strong guys are legends from the 90s. Still looks good enough to me. Stay strong and love armwrestling!
:D thanks
Damn Ray, looking strong!
Hope to see you and Janis training with Ryan and/or Todd at some point. 👍
100%
I think a major factor not taken into account here is the size of the handles. Bigger the circumference, harder it is. And from the looks of it the handle Ryan and Todd used was a little bigger than you guys'.
Yes their handle was bigger. This was closest we could find.
@@voiceofarmwrestling I don't think it would matter much. You and Janis had strong cups so wouldn't the bigger handle not make a difference? Hutchings was losing his wrist so he would do more with a smaller handle I would think.
It's not just about not losing the wrist but having a tighter handle lets you engage the tendons in the elbow at the bottom of the flexors more than an open hand can which gives you better side pressure.
Damn.....u Latvians are strong, pls share your daily diet!!!! Ryan was using a slightly bigger diameter handle (that makes a diff) but you fellas are right there. 👏👏👏
True but Ryans spinner also has an extra strap for wrist support. The one Ray and Janis are using is held by hand only.
Can't understand all the negative comments about this video/challenge. These guys are pros and it's just a fun challenge. Lighten up, people.
👍🏻❤️💪🏻
Time for Dave Chaffee to post his 1RM.
We are waiting on Dave
he's probably juggling sledge hammers somewhere
@@dude157 Chaffee is a beast
200kg lol
Lol different part of the world has different gravity
facts...
This is actually true. Gravity is actually about 0.5% greater at the poles when compared to the equator at sea level.
It's likely gravity is actually ever so slightly greater at your Latitude in Latvia than Bowen's in Australia. So weights are ever so slightly higher for you guys ;)
Gravity is myth
See Eric dubay atlantian conspiracy.com
@@jrhawk Im all for questioning things... But seriously you're going to question gravity? So how we're stuck to the earth is a myth? And how planets orbit our sun is a myth? Get real.
I dont care the Quality,
This video has enough knowledge and man strength 💞👍🏼💪🏼💪🏼
The fact that some people here in the comment section don't know the difference between back pressure and side pressure🤦♂️...that 42.5kg plateaus were for back pressure guys check Ryan's earlier video for side 1rm
:)
My dose of VOA !!! Every day keeps the Doc away 🤣🤣🤣 you guys training videos are amazing keep up the good work.
Wow Vlad is such a beast. I remember there was a IG story of Magzhan Shamiyev doing 75kg side press!!! Though he was using belt and not the rolling wrench handle, so he wasn't squeezing. Still crazy to think someone could side press literally their own weight!
Same crazy power around the world.
What's fun about Armwresling is to see all those people among the best in the world havaing fun together ! no bad mouthing no jalousy just good compétion good work guys !
💪🏻👍🏻🤘
Vlad is not human, vampire blood, crazy power, why is he not in WAL...
:D :D :D
Would like to see Vlad vs Bowen
Vlad looks a million dollars I wonder if he will go to Zloty this year
Craig Laycox Somebody got offended.
WAL is not be all, end all. Why everyone has to be in WAL?
Someone please pass on. Side pressure challenge to top roll king and armwrestling tv.
Yup!
This is pure gold. Love you guys as always its a pleasure to watch 👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻
Thanks man!
Just started arm wrestling 6-7 months ago and watching your videos since..
Would love to train under your guidance one day… love from India…
well Ryan took your advice and added about 15 kg to his Max rep 2 months ago i think it got up to about 67 or 68 kg now.....Cant wait to see Zloty
Aside from handle size, the weight of the chain also helps slightly too if we are splitting hairs. ;) Awesome vid!
:)
Blue Bowen gonna have a very hard time at Zloty but I applaud him for going there and testing himself vs the best armwrestlers on the planet
Good challange
Devon said it best. A loss is powerful. It provides the fuel to light the fire.
Takes me back to 80s when almost all vhs looked like this
AND here i am cracking at 30 kg....fuck these guys are FUCKING STRONG.
keep training , become MORE of what you are and keep armwrestling !!!!!
Its fine!!!
The video is amazone! Vladislavs is one from yours, who was doing this exercise most rightly - side pressure an he showed the hightest result.
Great video guys! You are all massively strong. Much respect!
Thanks
I would like you to make a video of your SIDE PRESSURE traing and explain how to train properly. Thanks guys!!
Google the channel. There are lot of them.
23:05 hahaha love the banter
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All of you looking strong. When will Vlad pull in WAL? Will he be at Zloty?
When WAL calls.
@Auto blipper why??
@Auto blippernahh, i dont think so, he lose to danny Mosier who get beatin by ryan bowen. Undefeated doesn't mean unbeatable. This is armwrestling dude, nothing impossible. They are so many competent in WAL.
@Auto blipper WAL has turned into a drama show where peoples just arm wrestle to look for some attention?? Have you ever watch the top 8 dude ??
@@syahfiekall4466 Vlad is way stronger than Mosier. Mosier was really underwhelming in his last tournament, whereas Vlad just wiped the floor with everybody except Travis Bagent...
22:41 I would had done that adjustment that Ianis did long before.
I was expecting any moment that to slip and jerk someones arm sideways
Toms dont care about nothing he can just lift. :D
Hey can you make a playlist or video just going over various attachments and compare them etc? I’m feeling overwhelmed with what I need to be buying and using. Thanks
I do wonder if cable machines do very a bit. I just check my side pressure yesterday for the 1st time and got 190 pounds never doing it before..
Great video with great bits of information between sets! You briefly mentioned that you're fasted for 48h, what are some benefits of fasting that you find help for armwrestling?
Lovers inflammation and helps me not be FAT RAY :D
I'm just curious: Why would you have a manually loadable 1:2 cable system? Like you need to load double the weight you get to lift. Why not just a 1:1 system or even better 2:1 system so that you would need to load only half the weight you get to lift.
Without a doubt the handle made it wayyyy easier for you guys as well as the extra stability. They had to balance as well but the larger handle I think it's the biggest difference here.
We would love to do it with same handle, but we had to work with what we got.
Smaller handles are actually harder for me, because its harder to clamp down on it.
Nice video , these numbers are no joke a normal persons hand would get seriously injured..
Hey Ray , why Vlad won’t compete in this years Zloty 86kg?
I remember him there as 78kg, he is very good
Is there a reason or just he doesn’t feel ready?
There is no doping test there, and its hard to prepare for Worlds, then keep the form for another 6 weeks. etc.
@Voice of Armwrestling yeah i know ..ok
Good job guys
Thanks
Boy I do not CARE about the bad video quality.
Do you think you could get the same numbers on a single pulley ? Is it harder to overcome the weight on a single pulley ? It seems like the weight moves really quick on the cable system. From the point you apply force it’s moving pretty much instantly which is unusual when getting close to a 1rm. I know when I lift on a cable system in the gym even if it’s the same weight it’s less pressure on the joints compared to my krasi pulley system. Is there something to what I’m saying ?
New Challenge is born
Better don`t ...
@@voiceofarmwrestling Not for beginners
Dam the guy with the blue shirt curling them in till 58, stronk all of you guys!
Toms is super powerful.
I watch ur vids to beat the next strong guy at the gym, i m climbing slow, but i m climbing
Would you please get a crane scale and show us what 60kg on this specific pulley system equals in real weight?
Nice job fellas
:)
Ryan and Todd did 42.5 kg. You guys are incredibly impressive and inspiring, great video once again!
P.s.: I have this handle, the upper holes are sharp, which resulted in almost cutting the strap after using large weights, kind of dissappointing.
I thought both did 52kg in their most recent 1rm?
The 42.5 was for a different vector, coming from below and hitting more bicep
@@Ewahl91 no wonder I was like wtf no way Ryan jumped that high in weight. That vector must be tough as hell.
@@Azazel_88 True, my fault. Cheers
:)
Who is here after Ryan's video? 😂
There is only one thing I don't understand: why you guys start with the wrist bend?
It looks like a really good exercise for you style of armwrestling ray! but i can be wrong :-)
Little different handle, position and movement- yes :D
How much harder is this with that handle instead of a basic metal handle? How much more weight would you be able to do??? I have been starting side pressure max lifts with a basic metal handle
I think the Ryan's handle was thicker so that makes a difference, as Todd said it's a good way to measure the level of the athlete by doing the same 1 max rep challenge
Yes it was thicker, this was only handle that came close.
Cable is set to high, makes big difference! Way easier
Damn it you guys are Strong!
Thats what we try to be and do :)
Very Informative coach
👍🏻
question:
anyone.
do you have to have your elbow planted on the table to train side pressure?
can your elbow be in the air?
Destroyed bowen. Vlad is a serious beast. Well done guys!
It was fun challenge, now my elbows are trashed.
-Ray
@@voiceofarmwrestling are you all competing in zloty? If so what weight classes are you all in? You vlad and janis
No one from is competing in Zloty
@@voiceofarmwrestling I guess Bowen got a personal invite then. Do you guys need to qualify for the event? Or are you choosing not to compete? Obviously your levels and experience are much higher than Bowan. I'm just curious. Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I appreciate it.
@sebeazzurri who the hell in Europe would give a “personal invitation “ to this unknown guy and not to Janis or Vlad who are already well respected athletes and champions with great rankings at previous Zloty Turs and European championships?
Are you asking for real ?
The way this started I thought this was a mocking video glad its not
Never. All in good fun and nothing but respect. :)
Hey guys! I did 78kg in the gym today but I dont think thats accurate. How can I make sure? Do you know any ways? Love the vids!
I would guess sits half of what you lifted.
Crane scale would show it with 99% accuracy
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Ray, what are your thoughts on long arm vs short arm? Im new to the sport and I dont know what style is best for long arm. I naturally want to go inside but people tell me to toproll because I have a long forearm like laletin. Whats your take on this?
You do what you are good at not, what you"should"
@@MrBoysOG How do you toproll at 5"8? You must have incredible pronation. Im 6"10 or 210 cm and I am terrible at toprolling. Lol.
Jacked Jones pronation + backpressure
You can have strong pronation but if you don’t have any backpressure it’s a lot easier to get turned in
@@gembagus I left that comment a year ago but yes I am.
@@gembagus Don't be jealous. I wish I was shorter! Anyways, train hard 👊
We want like this videos riamond
Australia welcomes you!
:)
Are you guys offering online coaching? If so where can I get some info on it? Cheers
That's a 2:1 ratio machine right?
Is it weird if I say Janis is adorable. It probably is. I’ll just go away
it is...
Wtf😂
Amolins,s wirst looks bigger. how much inch is that. And how tall is he .i guess under 5feet7 inch
Not really. I am 5’9”- 5’10”- Janis
Nice work. Truly. But, however.. the handle Ryan and Todd used appears for be quite some size larger than this one. So.. you know..
Unless.. their hands are simply tiny.
Yes their handle was bigger. This was closest we could find.
Charlotte H their hands are not tiny. Ryan’s hand is the same size as John Brzenk.
Zenzuu why do you care about Ryan Bowen’s hands so much ahahhaha ive seen you make 3 replies about this
So what do I need to do to get started
Bro you guys would play with the wal guys ! Keep it up!
Think again, maybe Janis with the lightweights but there's more to AW than just side pressure and even then, the side pressure of "WAL guys" is not no joke
I feel like Europe has an advantage over america in AW at least at this moment. But well see in the future who's the strongest!
Its not like we have just "side pressure" :D
Your setup here is way harder, they got in a more bent position and mostly turned their arms with some pressing when it got to the heavier weights.
I’m thinking Ryan needs better equipment. Same reason I didn’t buy that set up. The reviews said there was lots of friction
:)
Latvian champ in the blue shirt is hella strong haha no wonder he is champion
He beat me with Right in final - Ray
@@voiceofarmwrestling and only been armwrestle for 3 years?crazy strong!!
If you watch the video the following day they finally get around to oiling Ryan's crap apparatus which makes it easier than the previous session.
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bro thats double pulley system so in actual you are lifting half the weight
They already took that into account 😂
How u know@@littledude9463
not sure why you painted the gym with these weird stripes and send these odd "media offline" subliminal messages, but i liked it!
:D :D :D
Try backpressure guys.
I did 52,5 kg
Cyplenkov did like 90kg lol
Wanna see where you guys stack up
Maybe...
you should have checked the weight after loading it on, it might have been different, less or more.
we checked but didn`t film it Janis apparatus could show only 50 kg.
@@voiceofarmwrestling try and check with it at 40-45kg so the handheld scale can read it. I noticed my pulley system changed in numbers after I loaded it up, it was actually heavier than I thought. Just curious
Cool.
Thanks!
We need a face to face “competition” on the same equipment for comparisons to be valid. Your set up and handle are quite different - less give in pulley, chain instead of strap, and narrower grip handle. Ryan also drags it a lot further. You guys have an anchored elbow. So quite different, sorry. Even I could get bigger numbers on this.
Get those numbers!
Between sets ? min rest and ? min rest between exercises
vlad is a monster
Kun rulla on tuolla tavalla taljassa niin se puolittaa painon. Ei sitä voi sillee laskea että 8 kiloa plus levyt.
I dont think Ryan and Todd didnt add the 8kgs did they??......So Ryans Side wouldve been 60.5kgs Max.
He has different cable system.
@@voiceofarmwrestling Ahh i see.....But you guys are strong!!......Hopefully we can see all of you come together to do some One rep max's!!
Another way to test out this theory is you guys should fly to Australia at Ryan’s house and train there. 👌😄
or he can come to Latvia
I'm thinking you should go there bro.. fan from usa
Oil those pulleys guys! So squeaky
:D self made, don`t help
todd uses a 4 inch handle and ryan uses a 3 1/2 inch handle
:)
I'm only 8.5 minutes in but I thought Ryan only did 42.5 with 1 arm and it was only 3/4 rep. Todd was done at 35 or 38 for both arms and Ryan only got 42.5 with right. Correct me if I'm wrong. (I might be)
Update:
Regardless, you gentlemen were all incredibly impressive in this video.
How do you guys feel about trt? For or opposed? I am starting on it this month and am excited to have the testosterone of a 17 year old again
52,5 was what he told me and what I think was in video.
They both tapped out at 52 somthing
10-4. Well, looks like the Americans have their work cut out for them. 💪👍
@Bobby Sweeney
1) is there a medical reason(did you have under 250?)
2)how old are you
3)120-160 injections pill or “deodorant”?
4)Be aware you’ll be pretty much committed for life..
Yes ray did 68.5
68 kg
He did 68
:)
#sidepressurechallenge goes to VOICE OF ARMWRESLTING
:D :)
Sergey Bogoslovov did 100kg for around 5 seconds static)))))))
If you want - can give link)
Bogsolovov is a beast.
@@voiceofarmwrestling here)
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The dude had his elbow off the pad
That's allowed with this lift
flying elbow technique
So guys u can see that this people are natural and respect, not like denis..
Haha fucking magnets
Always magnets! 😂🔥
63 kilos is about 138 lbs btw
139 = 63 / .453 yeah we put wrong poundage
Can janis beat vlad now in armwrestling?
...
@Armwrestling Fans here
Ray did well not to answer, but if you follow this channel the answer is obvious...now.
@@Alex-1750 just a curiousity things..Its obvious vlad is lifting heavier weights than janis..But last tournament in US Vlad lost to Janis..Yes,he let go..But looks like he tried to fight but lost access to his power before letting janis win..
How much does Vlad weigh?
85 kg
Tod has biggest handle
And side pressure on midle height. Sorry for my English))
Haha little half length side pushes.
enough
Слишком легко идёт .. нужно разделить ещё раз на 2... Вот вам и вес...
:D
Lol Ryan and Todd went all the way down.....u guys just did partials....actually even less then that....were u guys joking???????
U barely moved the weights.
I can do about 160lbs.
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I wonder how many novices snapped their humerus trying this?