Here are the timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:49 Game 1: Knockout in 4 moves 3:43 Game 2: White without knight 7:43 Game 3: Mate in 8 moves 14:51 Game 4: Checkmate queen 18:40 Game 5: White without queen 24:15 Game 6: Win by moving pawns 30:33 Game 7: Correspondence game 33:55 Game 8: Eye appeal 37:12 Game 9: King trilema 39:10 Game 10: Legal's mate 42:23 Game 11: Sudden move 44:40 Game 12: Blackburne Shilling gambit 48:00 Game 13: Offer of the knight 51:07 Game 14: Pin followed by a fork 54:21 Game 15: Queen sacrifice 1:01:37 Nelson game 1:05:13 Nelson game 2 1:22:14 Nelson game 3 1:45:12 Nelson game 4 Nelson, can you please put it in the video description?
The fastest correspondence game ever was possibly 1 move. Depends how you view this situation: As the players agreed to play the black player said he will play 1...g6 and 2...Bg7 against anything. So White opened 1 b3 and black resigned. Lol
Black said "for the sake if moving things along, just fianchetto my bishop". White cheesed knowing Black's first two moves so his bishop could take black's bishop and rook, no way to stop it, when a real time game would obviously never have that. Resigned because even if you trapped white's bishop and felt you could play down a Rook and a pawn, it's a really unsportsmanlike thing for white to do.
I practice chess with my kids with odds games. My youngest (7) gets queen-and-rook odds, my middle child (10) currently gets queen odds, and my oldest (11) is at rook odds. The oldest started at queen-and-rook odds, and they're all able to make me sweat to find my way out, but still struggle in actually checkmating. Mostly because by 10 minutes in their attention span is running too short to do the checkmates - not because of my board position. So far most of those games are kind of annoying to play because I lack one of the rooks to castle with. Their benefit, of course.
47:00 Blackburne-Shilling gambit game is a similar idea to the fried liver trap you showed us. I've won several games with the latter, but never tried the Blackburne-Shilling. Thank you!
For future reference, at 9:03: N-B4 if both of the black knights (or anytime two pieces) can move to the same square, then the notation will have to specify which one was moved (the queen's or the king's side piece from the original starting position. Also, something that was not goos in that notation system is if you moved to (Bishop 3) B3 (not the "B3" square, it had to designate whether it was the King's or the Queen's side bishop's square.
Idea for next speed run: go until you hit a new PR. The end could be frustrating but the drama will be fun to watch. PR can be format specific, so you can pick the most realistic time format for you. Or choose whatever rules to make it realistic
At 42:02 you need to play h3 as white and if the bishop moves to h5 then you continue the legal's mate. If knight captures your knight, Queen takes Bishop, Knight takes your bishop you check at b5 and take his knight and you're up a pawn.
Much more confusing.. it requires translating to where the pieces begin on the board, and the same square is referenced in completely different ways depending on the side.
@@timm439 the fact that you have to change your "view" with each move is the biggest annoyance and if you're a kid (like I was) it causes a ton of confusion
That win with only pawns is a little misleading because white resigns before losing the Queen, but it is still possible to win or play to a draw without a queen if you are skillful enough. Although white is in a terrible position with no good development of pieces so resignstion is probably his best option.
I didn't watch the steam live, but I was like you to do a couple of games and then do some live games to try them out. That way we get the best of both worlds, and it'll stretch it out so there'll be lots of content.
The first books I ever read on chess were extremely old copies of "chess for children 1 and 2" in the early 90s. They used this notation and it was all I knew. It was painful and difficult to adjust to the algebraic notation. I haven't thought about it for about 30 years, good memories!
@@AlecsStan That's what I thought. But bishop d7 and the queen has to move again, then Black takes the rook. Black wins a rook and loses the knight after bishop b2, but if the knight takes the pawn at b3, white retakes, bishop b3 is check and next Black can add the queen to the attack. It depends on where White moved the queen to, but still looks very good for Black anyway. I'm not a strong chess player though so I may miss a lot here.
This recorded live could not have come in a better moment : 3 I'm gonna be without internet for like 5 days and guess what I'm downloading to keep me entertained?
If this stream showed you anything, its that DEVELOPING right away is the most important thing in chess. And Not putting your knight in front of the queen, that too. :D
How did I miss this video?? I LOVE that book. It was rebuying that book (after losing it ages ago) and the Niemann Scandal that got me back into chess!
In Game #3 the "forced" mate hinges on the initial pawn move being played in response to Q-R5 yet K-K2 can also be played and is winning for white but I couldn't see a forced mate. Edit: I found one! Mate in seven:- Q-R5, K-K2; Q-B2+, K-Q3; N(on B3)-N5+, KxN(on K4): Q-Q5+, K-KB4; p-Q3+, K-KN4; p-R3+, K-R4; p-KN3# In new money that's Qg5, Ke7; Qf7+, Kd6; Nb5+, KxN(e5); Qd5+, Kf4; d3+, Kg4; h3+, Kh4, g3#
Regarding the poll: I guess 30% games from the book/s and 70% you playing games. 10 minutes rapid games + explaining most of your thoughts + 1 hour plus videos: that's chess paradise on UA-cam! ^_^
Unless I am missing something, this "fork" is not an actual fork...@32:44 after knight takes pawn for the "fork" on the Queen and Rook, why can't white play Queen to d5 covering the rook and cancelling the fork? Why is it assumed that white King has to take the Black knight?
I wonder if the pole was slightly influenced by there being more people around at the end that had only seen the games 🤷♂️ Either are great, the games are always a winner, but the games in that book were really neat too.
I've played and had people play against me every now and then just blindly pushing pawns even at the 900 to 1000 mark it can throw people off, and they aren't ready for it and can't really deal with it. I've both one and lost games doing that, and having people do it to me.
32:57 White isn't forced to take the knight. He could have simply moved the queen out of harms way. Yes he'd have lost a rook but the knight is (at least temporarily) trapped. You shouldn't resign simply because you lost a rook.
@@LKaempen Something weird is that I was subscribed to this channel for over 2 years. I commented on most of the videos that Nelson created but never once did I get any response from anyone. Not so much as a "like". Yet just after unsubscribing, I get TWO people responding to this comment. I still won't re-subscribe as it would probably send me back to oblivion.
As long as the King is not in check it's okay.Found this out at a tournament game when a 3rd grader did it to me, and she was right. If the King is never in check, you can do it.
Hi Nelson , I was brought up using the old " descriptive " notation & coming back to chess after 40+ years took a while to get used to the algebraic . Now I'm more used to it , I prefer it as it is far less complicated & looking back at old school matches I played in 1970 's , I made so many errors in recording games , that many were " spoiled " trying to replay them ! Loving these short games but couldn't watch live as I'm in England , but did wake up to it 🥳 . Many thanks for doing this , it's fascinating !! Wonder if playing a knight in front of king /queen was in vogue in those days ? Thanks again.
Those of us who learned to play chess in the 1960s understand the notation perfectly, it's just these modern numbnuts who have to have a lettered and numbered grid. Just how stupid are people that the old notation would not make sense to anybody? We get more and more stupid with time.
At 54m, I think Bb5 first does work if it's followed by Be3. The problem with Be3 first is Qa5, if Bb5 first the queen has nowhere to run after Be3. It's not quite as good as b4 since you likely give up two pieces for the queen instead of one (if black played Bd7 instead of Nc6), but still pretty good.
Game 2: Giving up a knight on the King's side isnt mush of a disadvantage and makes it easier to castle, as this player did, on that side. Also, that Queen caspture is something no beginner is ever going to pass up. I've watched plenty of beginners in teh chess club at the school where i taught play, and they will always capture the Queen or go for a check.
Game 2 with the knight removed is almost an advantage because that's one less piece to defend, one less to develop, so you only have to move the bishop to castle. I saw a similar game without a queens rook and instantly that's one attacking bishop threat you don't have to deal with.
This was great to have both some games from a book and your current games in the same video. Hopefully you can continue this at some point in the future. Some of the old games may have unrealistic blunders, but it might still be worth going through some of them from time to time. Maybe you can read through the games in the book in advance and pick the most relevant ones.
I actually won a game with mate about 10 days ago without moving any original pieces. I was W - opened d4 as usual and B played the lousy Engulnd gambit - e5. I took. d6 and I took. I can't remember the full details after that but he brought his Q out trying for a quick mate. I had to do a few pawn blocks but in between took on c7 and b8, promoted to a Q and managed to mate with that Q without moving any other piece.
The old school terminology is easy to follow
Very interesting episode. More of this format (book and then play) please. Thank you
Here are the timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:49 Game 1: Knockout in 4 moves
3:43 Game 2: White without knight
7:43 Game 3: Mate in 8 moves
14:51 Game 4: Checkmate queen
18:40 Game 5: White without queen
24:15 Game 6: Win by moving pawns
30:33 Game 7: Correspondence game
33:55 Game 8: Eye appeal
37:12 Game 9: King trilema
39:10 Game 10: Legal's mate
42:23 Game 11: Sudden move
44:40 Game 12: Blackburne Shilling gambit
48:00 Game 13: Offer of the knight
51:07 Game 14: Pin followed by a fork
54:21 Game 15: Queen sacrifice
1:01:37 Nelson game
1:05:13 Nelson game 2
1:22:14 Nelson game 3
1:45:12 Nelson game 4
Nelson, can you please put it in the video description?
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The "Cow" opening Knight moves not getting allot of love early on
The fastest correspondence game ever was possibly 1 move. Depends how you view this situation: As the players agreed to play the black player said he will play 1...g6 and 2...Bg7 against anything. So White opened 1 b3 and black resigned. Lol
Why did bro even resign 💀
Black said "for the sake if moving things along, just fianchetto my bishop". White cheesed knowing Black's first two moves so his bishop could take black's bishop and rook, no way to stop it, when a real time game would obviously never have that.
Resigned because even if you trapped white's bishop and felt you could play down a Rook and a pawn, it's a really unsportsmanlike thing for white to do.
This was great! You have my vote to do more. 😀
Same
All I had growing up were my dad's old chess books so I actually originally learned on old-school notation in the 90's
100% same! And honestly there's a part of me that still thinks old notation is kinda ibetter in some ways
Now you know how I felt when everything started switching to algebraic.
that was a quirky pawn game. a pretty potential ending
I practice chess with my kids with odds games. My youngest (7) gets queen-and-rook odds, my middle child (10) currently gets queen odds, and my oldest (11) is at rook odds. The oldest started at queen-and-rook odds, and they're all able to make me sweat to find my way out, but still struggle in actually checkmating. Mostly because by 10 minutes in their attention span is running too short to do the checkmates - not because of my board position.
So far most of those games are kind of annoying to play because I lack one of the rooks to castle with. Their benefit, of course.
Game 14 was my favorite.
What a fun book!
47:00 Blackburne-Shilling gambit game is a similar idea to the fried liver trap you showed us. I've won several games with the latter, but never tried the Blackburne-Shilling. Thank you!
For future reference, at 9:03: N-B4 if both of the black knights (or anytime two pieces) can move to the same square, then the notation will have to specify which one was moved (the queen's or the king's side piece from the original starting position. Also, something that was not goos in that notation system is if you moved to (Bishop 3) B3 (not the "B3" square, it had to designate whether it was the King's or the Queen's side bishop's square.
Idea for next speed run: go until you hit a new PR. The end could be frustrating but the drama will be fun to watch. PR can be format specific, so you can pick the most realistic time format for you. Or choose whatever rules to make it realistic
At 42:02 you need to play h3 as white and if the bishop moves to h5 then you continue the legal's mate. If knight captures your knight, Queen takes Bishop, Knight takes your bishop you check at b5 and take his knight and you're up a pawn.
“Old” notation makes perfect sense, and is a lot more descriptive than the current system.
I would argue they are the same level of descriptiveness. Both describe the location on the board.
I like that with descriptive notation, we can keep track on the captured pieces much easier.
I prefer the old one.
Much more confusing.. it requires translating to where the pieces begin on the board, and the same square is referenced in completely different ways depending on the side.
@@timm439 the fact that you have to change your "view" with each move is the biggest annoyance and if you're a kid (like I was) it causes a ton of confusion
23:05 instead of the mate in 3, there is a better mate in 2 if white castles and moves their rook up to checkmate the king.
That win with only pawns is a little misleading because white resigns before losing the Queen, but it is still possible to win or play to a draw without a queen if you are skillful enough. Although white is in a terrible position with no good development of pieces so resignstion is probably his best option.
Love the old school notation!
game 5 - that italian opening it's pretty dangerous in this format :D
I didn't watch the steam live, but I was like you to do a couple of games and then do some live games to try them out. That way we get the best of both worlds, and it'll stretch it out so there'll be lots of content.
I really like this video! Feels like chess bed-time stories or something haha
I liked having both the book and the games in one video.
The first books I ever read on chess were extremely old copies of "chess for children 1 and 2" in the early 90s. They used this notation and it was all I knew. It was painful and difficult to adjust to the algebraic notation. I haven't thought about it for about 30 years, good memories!
Have you tried playing against Martin by only playing pawns?
The book was fun and interesting. You can always through in some of those before, in between, or after your rapid games
33:30 not exactly a "free queen" as you gave up a knight and bishop for the queen, but I guess that's still enough in a game between masters.
He could have also checked with the queen and gain a tempo
@@AlecsStan That's what I thought. But bishop d7 and the queen has to move again, then Black takes the rook. Black wins a rook and loses the knight after bishop b2, but if the knight takes the pawn at b3, white retakes, bishop b3 is check and next Black can add the queen to the attack. It depends on where White moved the queen to, but still looks very good for Black anyway. I'm not a strong chess player though so I may miss a lot here.
This recorded live could not have come in a better moment : 3
I'm gonna be without internet for like 5 days and guess what I'm downloading to keep me entertained?
If this stream showed you anything, its that DEVELOPING right away is the most important thing in chess. And Not putting your knight in front of the queen, that too. :D
you play 1. e4
"ah yes mate in 58"
(game 3, 8:00)
How did I miss this video?? I LOVE that book. It was rebuying that book (after losing it ages ago) and the Niemann Scandal that got me back into chess!
In Game #3 the "forced" mate hinges on the initial pawn move being played in response to Q-R5 yet K-K2 can also be played and is winning for white but I couldn't see a forced mate.
Edit: I found one! Mate in seven:- Q-R5, K-K2; Q-B2+, K-Q3; N(on B3)-N5+, KxN(on K4): Q-Q5+, K-KB4; p-Q3+, K-KN4; p-R3+, K-R4; p-KN3#
In new money that's Qg5, Ke7; Qf7+, Kd6; Nb5+, KxN(e5); Qd5+, Kf4; d3+, Kg4; h3+, Kh4, g3#
Regarding the poll: I guess 30% games from the book/s and 70% you playing games. 10 minutes rapid games + explaining most of your thoughts + 1 hour plus videos: that's chess paradise on UA-cam! ^_^
just bought that 1000 games book . subscribed too !! love chess
The Max Lange Attack variation in the Italian opening is based around Legel's mate.
Love your commentary and analysis.😅 😊
I have played the Legàl's mate before. You should have seen the face of my opponent when they greedily took my queen and got checkmated!!😂‼️‼️
Unless I am missing something, this "fork" is not an actual fork...@32:44 after knight takes pawn for the "fork" on the Queen and Rook, why can't white play Queen to d5 covering the rook and cancelling the fork?
Why is it assumed that white King has to take the Black knight?
11:14 Actually Nelson made a video of this checkmate before where he gave us for option to choose....
I wonder if the pole was slightly influenced by there being more people around at the end that had only seen the games 🤷♂️
Either are great, the games are always a winner, but the games in that book were really neat too.
Pawn one was pure disappointment xD
Is there any chance you have any makhail tal games you analysis???
I've played and had people play against me every now and then just blindly pushing pawns even at the 900 to 1000 mark it can throw people off, and they aren't ready for it and can't really deal with it. I've both one and lost games doing that, and having people do it to me.
32:57 White isn't forced to take the knight. He could have simply moved the queen out of harms way. Yes he'd have lost a rook but the knight is (at least temporarily) trapped. You shouldn't resign simply because you lost a rook.
The queen can defend the rook as well.
I spent 11 mins on pause trying to "solve" this because I thought the same thing
@@LKaempen Something weird is that I was subscribed to this channel for over 2 years. I commented on most of the videos that Nelson created but never once did I get any response from anyone. Not so much as a "like". Yet just after unsubscribing, I get TWO people responding to this comment. I still won't re-subscribe as it would probably send me back to oblivion.
You castled through check. Knight controls H1!
As long as the King is not in check it's okay.Found this out at a tournament game when a 3rd grader did it to me, and she was right. If the King is never in check, you can do it.
Hi Nelson , I was brought up using the old " descriptive " notation & coming back to chess after 40+ years took a while to get used to the algebraic . Now I'm more used to it , I prefer it as it is far less complicated & looking back at old school matches I played in 1970 's , I made so many errors in recording games , that many were " spoiled " trying to replay them ! Loving these short games but couldn't watch live as I'm in England , but did wake up to it 🥳 . Many thanks for doing this , it's fascinating !! Wonder if playing a knight in front of king /queen was in vogue in those days ? Thanks again.
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This Guy Won By Only Moving Pawns 😲
2:46 Correction, it's Queen to Rook 4 you 100 elos.
32:57 why resign if you can just de a Qa4+
28:37 Why didn't he just put the rook in front of the pawn?
In the correspondence game, couldn't white play Q-R4+?
23:20 wouldn’t nf5+ have worked here too?
Fwiw, I liked both parts equally
Me too!
Great video
POV: white in game 1😭
Those of us who learned to play chess in the 1960s understand the notation perfectly, it's just these modern numbnuts who have to have a lettered and numbered grid. Just how stupid are people that the old notation would not make sense to anybody? We get more and more stupid with time.
Is it just me or on 36:47 man just ignored the d2 knight move?
fisherman coming back?
Q-R5 not H4. Old Notation is Better.
I swear I've seen game 3 analyzed on this channel before
definitely
Yea the predict the blunder video
@@dew9103 no it was the announcing checkmate video
How do u see mate in 8 like what???!!
Don't MIX Notation!!!
at 1:14:49 Q to A7 - rook is toast. Is that good? Loved this post - ordered the book. Thank you for all you do.
This is great! More plz.
новые варианты в англо-сицилианской - партия 1 -
1. e4 c5 2. c4 Nc6 3. Nc3 e6 4. d3 Nf6 5. g4 h6 6. f4 d5 7. e5 Nd7
8. Nf3 Nb6 9. b3 Be7 10. Bg2 Qd7 11. O-O Qd8 12. Bb2 O-O 13. a4 a5
14. Qd2 Nb4 15. Rad1 Bd7 16. Ne2 Qc7 17. Ng3 Rfd8 18. f5 ef5 19. gf5 Bf8
20. d4 dc4 21. Nh4 cb3 22. f6 g6 23. d5 Bg4 24. d6 Bd1 25. Qd1 Qc8
26. Be4 Na4 27. Ng6 Nb2 28. Qh5 Qh3 29. Qh3 fg6 30. Qg4 Rd7 31. Qg6 Kh8
32. f7 Rf7 33. Rf3 Nc4 34. Qh7 1-0
Legàl be like:-👨⚖️
All genious
партия 2 - 1. e4 c5 2. c4 Nc6 3. e4 d6 4. d3 Nd4 5. h3 e5 6. Nc3 Be7 7. Bg2 Nf6
8. Nf3 O-O 9. Bd2 Ne6 10. Ne2 Bd7 11. a4 b6 12. Qc1 Bc6 13. Ng3 a5
14. Nf5 Re8 15. Rg1 Qd7 16. b3 h6 17. g5 hg5 18. Ng5 Nd4 19. Nd4 cd4
20. Qd1 Qa7 21. Qe2 Nd7 22. h4 Nc5 23. Rb1 f5 24. Qh5 Bg5 25. hg5 Nd3
26. Kf1 fe4 27. g6 Nf4 28. Bf4 ef4 29.Rh1 Kf8 30. Qh8 Ke7 31. Qg7 Kd8
32. Qd4 f3 33. Bh3 Qe7 34. Bf5 Rb8 35. Rh7 Qe6 36. Rd1 d5 37. cd5 Qd4
38. Rd4 Ba4 39. ba4 b5 40. Rd7 Kc8 41. Re7 1-0
Book and games
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📚📗📖 Liked the book more, Enjoyable, each with a great lesson.
23:20 The Mate-in-3 I found was Nf5 instead of Ne2 and I think that works as well.
At 54m, I think Bb5 first does work if it's followed by Be3. The problem with Be3 first is Qa5, if Bb5 first the queen has nowhere to run after Be3. It's not quite as good as b4 since you likely give up two pieces for the queen instead of one (if black played Bd7 instead of Nc6), but still pretty good.
Love this !!!!!! Makes great opening even if not immediate mate. Won 3 Nil - partner in shock 😮 what just happened ⚡️ v quick massacre 🙌
Game 2: Giving up a knight on the King's side isnt mush of a disadvantage and makes it easier to castle, as this player did, on that side. Also, that Queen caspture is something no beginner is ever going to pass up. I've watched plenty of beginners in teh chess club at the school where i taught play, and they will always capture the Queen or go for a check.
Felt wierd on game 15 that i found the mate in 16 or however many moves immediately but spent like 20 mins looking for the mate n 5 and had to give up
Game 2 with the knight removed is almost an advantage because that's one less piece to defend, one less to develop, so you only have to move the bishop to castle. I saw a similar game without a queens rook and instantly that's one attacking bishop threat you don't have to deal with.
This was great to have both some games from a book and your current games in the same video. Hopefully you can continue this at some point in the future. Some of the old games may have unrealistic blunders, but it might still be worth going through some of them from time to time. Maybe you can read through the games in the book in advance and pick the most relevant ones.
I actually won a game with mate about 10 days ago without moving any original pieces. I was W - opened d4 as usual and B played the lousy Engulnd gambit - e5. I took. d6 and I took. I can't remember the full details after that but he brought his Q out trying for a quick mate. I had to do a few pawn blocks but in between took on c7 and b8, promoted to a Q and managed to mate with that Q without moving any other piece.
nice chess trivia book
Am i on live rightnow
Old school notation is what i grew up with and it's easier for me to picture mentally.