The Game That Never Ends
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- Опубліковано 21 кві 2019
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We play two-player games all day, every day, and our lives are a real-time exercise in game theory. We work out how to make the best move based not only on what we want the outcome to be, but also based on how we think the other player is going to act. Since they’re usually going through the same rough thought process -- sometimes consciously, sometimes subconsciously -- we’re embroiled in a constant series of games with all of us wanting to win.
Winning can be the best result for you or the best outcome given the circumstances, and players are implicitly sorting out their strategies in a recursive process that waffles between self-interest and cooperation. Whether we’re driving down the highway and trying to go as fast as we can without getting pulled over or just trying not to be weird with our crush, we’re playing a game… and it turns out that a little cooperation goes a long way.
** SOURCES **
Robert Axelrod, “The Evolution of Cooperation” www.amazon.com/Evolution-Coop...
Prisoner’s Dilemma: plato.stanford.edu/entries/pr...
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#education #vsauce2
Officer: "do you know how fast you were going?"
Kevin: "Speed is relative, Officer."
Officer: you were driving 20 km/h over the speed limit
Heisenberg: where am i?
The answer to that questions is always,"I'm sorry, I was concentrating on where I was going and the traffic around me and I had not looked at me speedometer in miles." This statement does 2 things: it keeps you from incriminating yourself and informs the officer that although you may have been speeding you were not being reckless.
Often an officer will ask that question if he doesn't have solid evidence of you speeding. If he says he is going to ticket you, request to see the radar receipt. The radar will print a time/date stamped receipt when he clocks you. If he can't produce it then he will either not ticket you or you can go to court and dispute it.
Timothy Neiswander screenshot and saved to my phone. Not that I speed because I don't unless I'm not paying attention to my speed on a long stretch just watching the road but I typically can feel if I'm speeding because my foot will hurt. That may sound kinda odd but I typically drive at 58 miles per hour or 68 miles per hour depending on roads. My foot is so use to applying pressure for those two speeds and if I go over those speeds especially 68 I start to get a cramp. I don't know if it is from muscle memory or what. I usually drive 79 miles to work so it's kind of a haul but my foot is very steady and I can usually tell pretty quickly if I speeding and slow down but I rarely do speed so I think it really is muscle memory for me. Long rant but I've noticed this for years but your screen shot might help me if I do get stopped. Good tip and sounds logical.
“Not through an orphanage.”
sweet home alabama
Vsauce2: A game that never ends
Vsauce: Or is it?
*does it?
I heard the Vsauce music when I read this
@@reasatprottoy7488 Or is it a game that never ends?*
@@MyOwnUrl **********
*in the intro* A movie picture by Jake Ropper
Next video: A game that never starts
Or does it
catch with my dad
@Bill Cipher
that’s sad
you mean like half-life 3?
@@huh968 idk what that is
if he goes at 130mph he wont get pulled over because the police officer cant catch him
Nathan Heaver but then said officer calls into the office and gets the choppers out and sets up road blocks and tires spikes to stop said driver. movies really are fun to watch, unfortunately fast and furious tokyo drift is not an accurate depiction of how police handle unsafe driving.
Or you'll just hit a wall...
Anticlimactic Man, AWAY!
some people are irresponsible at speed. some are better. some are good.
some cars 100 feels like 55, good handling brakes roll steering...
There is this weird limit above which you are mostly safe from police, cause they will mostly ignore that. If they didn’t catch the license plate and there are multiple roads to take ahead, there is no way for them to reasonably set up a roadblock
Well yes, but actually no.
> when you're allowed to play one more game before bed
Kapin #1801 XD
Yes
666 :0
666 likes😮
Guys don't like
Man I used to love those little tracks. I would always try to intentionally fling my car off the track at the person I'm racing.
A man of culture, I see.
Chaotic evil
I run a Scalextric club / model shop and we have so many of our cars ruined by kids who do that, its so frustrating having to constantly replace broken battered cars that cost £50 a piece XD
@@sawspitfire422 good thing I only did it with mine lol
NOT NICE
“How fast can I get away with it without getting pulled over”
This is my only thought on the highway
Truth
You can either go a little bit more fast, or wayyy more fast and not get pulled over.
Cops dont even bother trying when you are going 120
generally about 5 over, if anybody is going faster than you, you're good.
Move to Germany. We dont have Speed Limits on highways
generally you can drive as fast as you want as long as there are at least 2-3 cars driving faster than you.
Wait what
anonymous Crabz say you’re going 60 on the highway, which is the speed limit. If everyone around you is going 80+, then you’re the hazard, since you’re essentially the same as a guy standing still in a 20 zone.
Source: my grandpa once got pulled over for going the speed limit.
Note: I live in Texas. Laws may vary between states, countries, and even cities. It also might have been the discretion of the officer who pulled him over, not the general rule.
He isn't lying, it's called staying with the flow of traffic, it's a law across the US
I doubt that's actually a thing that would hold up in court.
Now, officers have limited man power to pull over everyone; so they'll only catch the fastest of the bunch.
watch out people, in a group of speeders the cops have an incentive to go for the low hanging fruit to increase success and minimize their risk, that would be you the slowest speeder. it's like that bear joke :D B)
American: ...or whatever the speed limit is in your area...
German: Laughs in Autobahn.
Homeless: laughing whipping tears of. *starts walking*
dumbasses
More like *laughs in autobahn traffic due to road repairs*
@@lambchu6459 pst don't tell them
@Max that's a very high speed for a school zone
Spatula City has all the spatulas for your gift giving needs
They're running a special: buy 9 spatulas and get the 10th for just one penny!
And what better way to say "I love you" than with the gift of a spatula?
@@ObsidianParis And spank her with it?
Spatula City, we sell spatulas, and that's all.
I remember, wasnt the best stores in the spatula district?
Today we learned
Cars slide when they loose grip
Driving fast is dangerous which is why we have laws
Different roads have different speed limits
Cops pull you over depending on your speed
Very informative
And the most important lesson of all: be nice
@@mrjoe332 unexpectedly wholesome. like
Pretty shallow cross-promotion overall.
more than school teaches you
Nah. What we've learned is "Snitches get stitches"
Them talking about not sliding on the roads and being able to brake:
Me, a Canadian: that's cute
SIr, you are driving too fast
Kevin: *What is fast?!*
Background: *Vsauce music*
What exactly is fast?!
@Ch Srinivas "Fast" mean "Not slow".
Mercedes Slr Mclaren?
Me: walks out of nowhere with my speaker playing Vsauce music
Thanks for uploading constantly unlike other Vsuauce's
😔
yep
Sauauauauauauauauce
Well they don’t constantly but i hear ya
Tell me more good vsaucers
You : I have a radar detector.
Cop : I have a radar detector detector.
You : Do they make a radar detector detector detector?
They actually do.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radar_detector_detector
"many early "stealth" radar detectors were equipped with a radar-detector-detector-detector circuit, which shuts down the main radar receiver when the detector-detector's signal is detected, thus preventing detection by such equipment."
@@jeffreyhuang3814 What the hell is going on with the world?
@@jeffreyhuang3814 what about a radar detector detector dectector detector?
Disco Stu underrated comment
The Anti Anti Anti Missile Missile?
"big straight super Highways where we can all do 55"
That's cute *laughs in German*
He said 75, which is 120 kph.
@@PunkZombie1300 still pretty slow by german standards. you usually have to drive 130 kph on the autobahn, but most people will drive at about 170 - 220 kph over here.
You don't really have a wiggle room about your speed limit when an automated traffic radar system is the one whose flashin the lights at you.
Actually, you do. They still account for tolerances in the measurements and thus give you a but of wiggle room. It's just static wiggle room.
should be illegal. what to do when the law does something illegal, ey
@@Airblader Not only that but your speed gauge is also telling you you're driving faster than you actually are. So it becomes a game of staying below the error of your speedometer + the margin of the speed camera.
Knuckles? Cracked
Keyboard? Greased
Game? Never ending
Alright it's gamer time
Hotel?Trivago
@@Agvazela_Vega me too
I’m actually disappointed that you forgot to bomb Iran
Gaming chair: on fire
@@Agvazela_Vega He Beat you to it, cuz he's Batman.
*Deep inhale*
THIS IS THE GAME THAT DOESN'T END
IT JUST GOES ON AND ON, MY FRIEND
SOME PEOPLE...
STARTED PLAYING IT NOT KNOWING WHAT IT WAS
AND THEY JUST KEPT ON PLAYING IT FOREVER JUST BECAUSE-
THIS IS THE GAME THAT DOESN'T END
IT JUST GOES ON AND ON, MY FRIEND
SOME PEOPLE STARTED PLAYONG IT NOT KNOWING WHAT IT WAS AND THEY CONTINUED SINGING IT FOREVER JUST BECAUSE,...
THIS IS THE GAME THAT DOESN'T END
lol
“How can we use game theory to find the answer?”
Simple. You ask MatPat, he does the math for you.
Vsauce2: Its logistically impossible to pull everyone over who goes 1MPH over the speed limit
Emporia PD: Hold my radar gun
Shaneequa Naynay *FBI wants to know your location*
My friend got pulled over for doing 42km/h in a 40 zone. he didn't get a ticket tho, they just wasted some of his time. his explanation was that he drove a moped and didn't think it was actually fast enaugh to break the speed limit so he just went flat out.. Earlier that week I drove his moped 120km/h so how he managed to pull that explanation out and get away with it is beyond me...
@@RenaxTM91 I live in an enclosed community and you get 300 dollar tickets for speeding, 1 mph above...
But the radar gun is how they check your speed
@@iamrockyyy4690 drive next to each person
People will speed even driving next to cops.
Cant get in trouble, if you dont pull over
How bout you test that theory
@@nicktokar2459 I have many many times.
@@CoochieKissKing r/bullshit
Can't outrun Motorolla.
@@Advo42069 And you know he's bullshiting how again?
Rule of thumb in the UK is 10% over the speed limit. for example: 77 In a 70 or 33 in a 30.
Umm... Then why not further the limit by 10%...?
@@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe2998 because then there'd be another 10% on top of that
That's kinda the way it is here in the US too... Cops generally allow you to go five over... And if you actually look at our speed limits, they seem to always be in increments of five... Twenty-five, thirty-five, fifty-five etc... Except the typical seventy Mile per hour highway...
Or 10,000 in a 9,100
10,000 in a 9,090 is closer
I live in socal. Here you will get pulled over for not going 85 in a 30
Next video *The video that never ends.*
ua-cam.com/video/wOQ8H2t6I1I/v-deo.html
FlareTVs PewDiePie vs T Series
Didn't Jake already make it?
Does streaming count
Unfortunately, that video will take an infinite time to make.
Somebody: Died
Vsauce: Or did they?
Supa Mario Bodas 2 Baby probably.
Let's do paranormal investigation to find it.
d-difficult
e-electric
a-anatomical
t-tree
h-heavy
How people disappear video lmao
Proceeds to explain how death is biologically defined
This seems ... like a weird mix of random topics fiddled together just to do an ad for speed?
Vsauce2: "I guess Grandma was right, it pays, to be nice..." * *flips poor police car off table* *
"Pump the brakes there, t-- Billy."
Feel like"billy" is a real person he knows....
Im innocent
Life is a game that never ends, also monopoly
When you die it ends.. That is it. There is no replay.
They want to control it all
@BlazePlayz YT
you respawn but maybe as a lower level character, rng is a bit all over tbh
Isn't life a game you always lose?
Nah they get put onto a newer server but theres no cross platform
I have a feeling in real life prisoner dilemma situations you are thinking more about how many years your counterpart will be in for and how far away you can move when he gets out and tries to kill you for ratting on him.
jk prob not
I remember playing with that exact same race track 14 or 15 years ago. I still got it somewhere in the attic
Games never end because you will always be able to respawn and try again. Real gamers are even able to do this in real life.
I guess you've never played Minecraft on hardcore then
Jesus did it three days after dying. He was an og gamer.
@@takotime God is actually life's GM
@@it_was_my_cat pro player
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!
VSauce2: A Game That Never Ends
VSauce: What is a 'game'?
Vsause3: What is a "What"?
VSauce - how do you upload so often ?
lol @@maria-yq7yx
@@maria-yq7yx Is is an is..?
@@himanshugarg6062 but what is a "?" ?
Kevin
"You can generally get away with going 5 MPH over the limit."
Me:
Laughs in Canadian
I feel it’s actually risky to go exactly the speed limit when a cop is around. The cops thinking “hmmm is something up with that car? Why’s he driving exactly the speed limit, i wonder why he really really doesn’t want to get pulled over?” But if you go a few mph over the posted speed limit when a cop is around that makes the cop think “ That guy doesn’t seem to be too worried about going a little over even when I’m right behind him so he probably doesn’t have anything to hide or be worried about”
Bruh
1. The cop would pull you over of you're going over the limit no matter what
2. Lots of people go the exact speed limit just because why wouldn't you if you got to get to a place might as well get there as fast as possible
It's more keep the same speed in driving regardless of cops' presence
Mom: ok one more game before bedtime
Me:
VSauce: Or are you?
Are you rEaLly Elon Musk?
Your videos are so amazing. Really informative and entertaining. You and Michael are the inspiration behind my channel. Keep up the great work!
Jake Roper: _Am I a joke to you?_
"Pump the brakes there, Billy" is now my new catchphrase, thanks Kevin.
Sean: Master of speed.
Vsause2: Master of turning things into games.
Dogs catching their tail is a never ending game
“Only about 1 inch”
Um, I’m sure you’ll get more than that when you actually put the weight of a motorcycle on that tire.
If your tire is deflating like that you've got bigger issues
Guest 1337
What??
I'm pretty sure my car's tire has more than just an inch of contact with the road.
@@EnterJustice he said motorcycle
Something I'd add about the nash equilibrium in the prisoner's dilemma situation is that if you tally up total scores in each outcome, both keeping quiet ends up as -2. Both talking ends up at -4. One talking and the other keeping quiet ends at -3. I mean group total. The rational actor in this situation will think as an individual and seek the 0, because it's the most positive result for all of this, on an individual scale, but this means both will likely do this, and lead to a collective -4. Team players generate the highest score on a group level, loners generate the lowest and shittiest score on a group level. Realistically speaking, nash equilibrium would always happen and you'd never see one side get 0 and the other -3.
I really have been liking your uploads lately. I hope you keep doing this. :)
Police: Do you know how fast you were going?
Vsauce2: or do i
This is so much easier in the Netherlands; there is a legal 10% leeway when it comes to speeding.
Thanks again for another great vid Kev! Loving all the videos!
“How can we use game theory to be the fastest”
Matpat “hold my Diet Coke”
So how fast can I drive without getting pulled over?
That was answered briefly in the video at 7:30. The general consensus, at least in the US, is about 5 mph over the limit. However, 55 mph usually means it's a construction zone (70 mph is more common for a highway / interstate, at least where I am). If it were a construction zone instead of the regular speed limit, I'd drive exactly what the sign says and no more because 1) it's more dangerous to speed there, 2) fines are doubled, 3) more likely to be watched than a random spot of road 4) the police's lower tolerance for anyone who is speeding.
I think 300 km/h should do
@@osmium6832 it depends on the country. where i live you cannot get a ticket unless you went 10km/h faster than the speed limit
@@metanumia Yeah... Try not to drive fastere than the speed of light. xD
@@jknMEMES well yeah... Speeding would result in time travel...
Watching a video somewhat about cars and then hears 'Robert Axelrod.'
I used to wait months at a time, then watch a bunch of mind blows at once. But as Michael's channel came to a halt, as well as Jake's, I always look forward to a vsauce2 video. Always interesting on what I want to watch, and never boring
Something that was left out that i think is important is why people are nice to each other: in the cold world of game theory, there is the notion of "repeated games"-both players will behave "nicer" if they must face each other again. Intuitively, this makes sense: if one prisoner betrays the other, than in successive rounds of the prisoners dilemma they will betray each other over and over. However, if the prisoners must face each other again, then they will cooperate infinitely.
No one:
Vsauce: Or is it ?
S t o p
Wrong vsauce
So a rough estimate like
'... they're maybe 4" by 5" wide ...'
should be converted to the incredibly precise '10.16 x 12.7 cm'?
Ok...
4:44 thanks for the conversion in kph.
Small detail I know, but that's exactly why I appreciated it.
I'm really digging the synthwave you guys have been using in your videos lately
The fastest I ever went on a public road was 160 mph (260 km/h). Totally legal on a German Autobahn. 😉
Dominik Sirtl I don’t like muslims or Islam but you seem cool.
Johnny Cash Not only are you a racist but you’re a moron if you think the name Dominik is an Islamic name. Please do not breed.
@@oliverwest5336 I mean... they are called Johnny Cash, what do you expect.
😂😂
@@Valsorayu lol
*“They’re resisting centripetal force, they want too fly off”*
Friction and that peg provide the centripetal force tho?
Yep he misspoke
Thank god at least one of the Vsauces is uploading regularly, love you Kevin
3:36 Please remember that most modern vehicles have anti-skid systems, so you can't actually lock up your tires.
Vsauce2 is a gamer confirmed
"I have to go..." *ad instantly pops up*
This is the only Vsaucer that is keeping his channel alive :( I miss the other two
its so nice that there is vs2 posting regularly!!! :D
Grat watching this from Germany. You more or less see people constantly driving 150 mph on the motorway!
Was watching _Alarm für Cobra 11_ the other day and all those fast drivers crashed spectacularly.
germany don't have as much car accidents as america
I already watched all four parts of Speed. LOVED IT!!!
I've been seeing a lot of Curiosity Stream sponsorships recently, but I think this is the one that's done it for me.
7:40 "we can get away with 5mph over the apeed limit"
*laughs in New Yorker*
American : What is "kph" ??
European : What is a "speed limit" ??
Russian : Did someone say Klashnikov?
A K Wth europeans have slower speed limits than Americans
Germany: laughing in autobahn
@@daringd5 That's absolutely not true. Most european countries have a city speed limit of 50 kph, while in the US it's 30 mph (48.2 kph, so less than 50). On highways, most european countries have a speed limit of 130 kph, while in the US it's mostly 70-75 mph (112.6-120.7 kph, so quite a lot less than 130). In some states you get 80 mph speed limit, which is 128.7 kph, so still less than 130. I don't know where you got your information from, but it's completely false.
@@Kiwi2703 Well actually it's from my experience driving on British roads...
laghs in blayt
0:14
HELLO INTERNET!!
This video is one of the most thought provoking ones from the ones posted half a year. Don't lose your touch, Kevin.
Tag never ends... Hide and Seek never ends...
We need a final boss battle for these
Giving them a spatula is probably not a great gift.
Unless they're spongebob.
Kevin: How we can use game theory...
Mattpat: hmm interesting
Sean has such a nice voice. I can imagine him acting/recording an audiobook.
"Not only is it logistically impossible, that level of law enforcement would make everyone pretty angry."
England: *hold my beer*
And Australia
What if life is a simulator and when you die, somebody takes off your goggles and says, "So, How was it?"
simulator in a simulator in a simulator
"I brought one of the tires off one of my motorbikes here."
*pulls out tire*
Dude thanks, this was really.. nice
0:57 the way he picked up the controller WAS......
*CLEAN*
Kevin sounds like hiccup for HTTYD
The weight of thr car makes the tires rubber depress causing it to have a larger contact patch
a lot of 'engineering' and science channels completely miss the fact that force per area depending on the compound squishes the rubber into the pores of the road and vice versa... engineering explained really fked that up. whole reason we use rubber in the first place besides shock absorption. more to it than just contact patch, the rubber liquifies into different pseudo-states depending on temp and a ton of other stuff.
CuckTube we use rubber because it has a higher friction coefficient. Doesn’t really matter the surface, it’s all about weight and acceleration.
And that’s because more surface area means less weight per inch square (these are the very basics of physics).
@@SuperSerNiko97 more surface area mean more traction thats why you dont over inflate your tires so theyre at the optimal point of havin just the right amount of traction too little and theres too much surface area or a contact patch meaning more friction and the vehicle wont be efficient and wont preform perform optimally because the friction will slow it down too much air and the tires will be too firm and have too little of a contact patch meaning less friction and you will lose traction and slide around
GrapeDrank001 that’s absolutely wrong, bicycles and motorcycle have much less contact area than cars or trucks but handle the same lateral force, explain why!
The friction law of physics only depend on weight and material, the surface area cancels out.
Sport cars have wider tires for many other engineering reasons, for example: a wider tire have less deflection so the car is more stable; a wider tire touches the ground more transversally than longitudinally, so the tire touches the ground for less time (and when they do the pressure on the ground is softer) but touches the air for more time, this means a more colder tire; and last but not least a wider tire, due to the less pressure on the ground, last longer.
Put all those things together and you’ll find out that you can use a much softer tire without all the trouble you would have on a narrow one.
Talking about what you said, you have to inflate it at the right point not because of any crucial change in the traction but because you use all the tread homogeneously without wasting it.
@@SuperSerNiko97 wrong
Most of the videos are of two category.
One is where the host take up a complex problem and break it down so simple that any body can understand.
The other type : Vsauce2
Cop to Einstein: sir, you were going 50mph
Einstein: time is relative officer
relative?
@@RahulMaru3507 yeah, i meant relative, maybe I wrote relative wrong and it turned to relevant and I didint notice it lol
UA-cam this isn't the right time to show me this video in my recommended
"The Game That Never Ends"
*presses ALT F4*
"Nope."
@@garklein8089 Thanks for the idea xD
@@superoriginalhandle lol np
11:26 the irony here is that i got a spatula for my birthday and loved it.
Woah. The implications are endless and honestly, mind-blowing. Especially about the gift giving or...when working in a group. It pays off to be nice.....when everyone is nice but what if you're too nice and the other 'players' think that being bad is what they think you feel is nice but it is not. Yet, now you have been nice and to be not nice, that will surely be...not nice.
I'm always nice and always nice things go my way :) This video and every grandma is/are right :D
Vsauce : The game that never ends
Avengers end game : *chuckles in physiology*
If your tyre is correct pressure then there's the most contact. That said when it's underinflated there's actually a pocket that forms in the middle due to the sidewall being pushed towards the center and creating an arch thus reducing surface contact area.
If it's wet you'll probably have less grip if you're underinflated rather than overinflated. You may have better grip if you're over inflated than regular when it's wet.
The way you picked up and handled that length of track in the beginning. YOU SINNER YOU SHALL BURN! HERESY AGAINST THE SLOT CAR GODS!!!!
jkjk good video lol
At the beginning I thought i accidentally clicked on a car video lol
The badass speed expert has driven about 210kph. *laughs in German*
I had a little laugh myself, and we don’t even get any nice highways here in Poland
A spatula is an incredible gift!
1:03 that "I wouldn't have it any other way" sounded very badass
Meanwhile in Jersey people drive 85 on a 65
*laughs in German*
@@LucaBl SCHLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!
Can confirm haha
Next Vsauce2 Video: The game that is. Or is it?
Actually, I can imagine a video like that.
When he said game theory and "I know just the guy" I thought matpat was gonna come but thank got that didn't happen
The coefficient of friction/maximum velocity a car can turn around a corner has nothing to do with how much area of contact there is between the tires and the road, it's all about the kind of surfaces that are in contact/providing the friction. The equation for the force of friction is Friction = Normal Force x Coefficient of Friction, there is no accounting for the area of the contact between the surfaces, because it doesn't matter.
Another way to think about this is that the bigger the contact patch is, the lower the pressure is on that patch/the less weight there is per unit area of the patch. With a smaller area providing friction, there is a higher amount of friction per square unit, and vice versa (bigger area provides lower amount of friction per square unit of area)