GSXR1000R makes HUGE HP Gain from $2 per gallon fuel- Moore Mafia GSXR e85
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- We finally get to tune a newer model Suzuki GSXR-1000 on E-85 pump gas. Watch as this tune gives the bike new monster numbers on a fuel you can get at almost any gas station for less than the price of 93 octane! GSXR E85 Plus Chris Moore Mafia ECU Flash FTW!!!
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love the dyno videos i've learned a lot from watching you and brock
I love the mix of videos keep them coming!
Best bang for the buck .....E85 ! Yes it requires 30% more fuel for bike or car to run properly . Pump gas has a stoich value of 14.7 and e85 is like 9.7-9.9 , the horsepower is gained due to E85 being 30-33% oxygenated fuel !!! C85 is 90% ethanol and it's that all the time . Chris next time you do a E85 tune , throw some C85 in for testing 👌
I’ve heard 87% is the optimal mix percentage. Past that, there is not much to gain NA
Love watching you work your magic and gain HP!!!! Just got my gsxr750 flashed by you 2 weeks ago. Best single thing you can do!!! Hands down!!!! Thanks again..
I can’t tell you how much cooler the motor runs and how much power it picked up on E-85 is by far one of the best bangs for the dollar!!!🌽🚀 Thank you Chris Moore💪🏻🔥🚀 MooreMafia 4 Life…
I forgot to say the around town drivability is phenomenal no hesitation no hiccup smooth insane power at demand everywhere!!😎 Must do!!!🚀🚀🚀
Yes, it should fuel is all that cools Nitro dragster motors. High volumes of fuel.
Love the dyno vids but the racing is great too . Looking forward to the progress of the 22 busa.
Generally, E85 gives 15 - 27% less fuel mileage while saving 25% cost. It's basically a wash economically and may articles say it costs more in the end. Interestingly E85 has some 1/3 less energy per gallon, but do to higher octane (more like diesel) you can give it a high state of tune and actually extract more torque and horsepower when tuned accordingly. The real advantages are it potential tuning characteristics, think alcohol fueled race cars, and it's assumed to be better for the environment. Like Chris says, the fuel changes dramatically with the seasons, much more than normal pump gas, but primarily in colder states, I believe. Gasoline blends actually vary around the country by season and region, mostly do to EPA and local regs.
I like the dyno runs, I think its a good thing that you are featuring different things on your channel.
E-85 Is absolutely the Shit for boosted applications. I went from 410Hp to over 450Hp in my 2008 EVO 8. However it is true I had to constantly run a laptop for data logging to fine tune.
Love the video
My bike made 181 on 93 and when I switched to x85 made 204 @ 87 torque
Drove Jullian bike and yes there’s a big difference with his bike
It’s silly!!
Ethanol content actually is changed for coldstart ability in the colder months. Ethanol has less volatility which makes starting engines difficult when it’s cold. Nice gains, thanks for sharing
It’s worth it for race purposes. There can be some maintenance issues. Hard on the fuel system.
Common misconception it actually has excellent cleaning properties that can cause clogging when clearing out gunk from gasoline. Adding an aftermarket E85 filter before switching can help reduce that potential. While it!s true older vehicles can suffer damage to the fuel system. Vehicles made 1994 and later are designed to handle ethanol.
Gunk is one, the other is many will not upgrade the pump and injectors . When flowing the system , it’s best to treat it like methanol for flow requirements. Use the barrel not the pump fuel for extra protection against blend variations.
@@ecc5119 100% correct I guess I assumed that was common knowledge 🤷♂️ when switching to E85 the A/F ratio is significantly different you must switch out the pump and injectors! I only mention the filter cause I missed it at first and clogged my brand new injectors. If I Remember right it was a $100 fix to have them cleaned. But it ran great afterwards!
I ran a methanol outlaw drag car on methanol 2k plus hp , it is possible to change the basket screens on injectors but match flowing is best. I always ran my weakest and strongest injector in the same cylinder to help match flow between cylinders. the new screw in injectors are awesome at preventing leaks under 100 pound plus boost pressures.
Awesome Chris ..... Cheers Dale Walker
I love the excitement you bring to these videos. Keep it up!
This was very informative thanks for making this video awesome to hear those bikes wide open I think a bouncing around between tuning, racing and vlogs keep it fresh
I like the riding and racing personally! I'm gonna support the channel regardless man!
Really enjoy the dyno videos Chris. It really shows the details of not only how much power the bikes make..but how they make it. Which I think gives a lot of people a sense of direction when buying a bike for their goals!
S.n. Maybe a E85 vs Mr12 comparison???? :D
Great video glad your doing an E85 tune I’m a huge fan of E85 I use to run it in my Subaru STi huge power gains for turbo vehicles as well BUT glad you threw in that knowledge that the time will change once it gets cold Ill just stick to MR 12 and pump
Yha there needs to be a timing retard mapping or something for cold starts based on iat/coolant temps from previous shutdowns...starting sub
I’m lovin the mix of everything you do, don’t stop the dyno stuff though!
Ain't this something. Here's your bikes 15min of Fame Julian.
On my 12:1 supercharged F150 Coyote 5.0, A switch from pump 91 to our local E70 (with tuning) my eighth mile went from a 7.7@93-95 mph, to a 7.3 @ 101, same boost / pulley ratio. It seems like the higher the cylinder pressure whether it's from boost, compression ratio, or a combination of both, the more beneficial Ethanol becomes. When the truck was NA it also benefitted from Ethanol, but not to the same extent. They also command quite a bit more timing advance on Ethanol vs 91 Gasoline from looking at the datalogs. Coyotes are blessed with front wideband 02 sensors, and also factory knock sensors to pull back timing if knock is detected.
keep all the videos coming. nice to see the dyno and all the work that goes into your race bikes and then see what they can do on the track
I have been used E85 on all my race cars and motorcycle for years.. I am using Fueltech ecu on the last 4 years now.
E85 is the way to go. Awesome video
By far!! Must do!!
Yesssssirrrr Julian mad happy with the results
Just started my gen 1 busa on e85 had to jump to 440cc injectors and take 20% fuel away. It freaking smells like moonshine in my garage lol.
Might as well try Everclear next? Expensive though. heh
@@daveyt4802 e85 is higher proof than ever clear lmfao.
I make my own RACE FUEL from a little somethin, somethin I buy in the hardware store. Yes, the results are dyno proven PHENOMENAL, but the results can be catastrophic as well. You really have to know what you're doing.
T.S. RACING 🇺🇸🏍💪
Chris, you did a great job on the A/F with that E85 tune, and stock injectors. 👍
What shit did you buy that burned faster than MR12 Race Gas?😂
Love all the videos. Moore Mafia!!
That is a really sweet looking Gixxer. I'm loving the mix of racing and dyno vids. It's great to have verity from time to time.
E85 is the best bang for your buck. It’s basically 112-114 octane out the pump. On my turbo truck it’s a 100+hp gain. When the blends change between seasons I just check it with a e85 tester kit. Stay on top of maintenance ie run a tank of 93 through it once a month and watch fuel filters and you’ll have no major problems
Love the Dyno pulls
I love your dyno videos, please keep making more of them. They are re very informative! Got my 2019 ZX6R flash by you and it runs amazing! This would not have happened if the Dyno videos weren’t there
Both types of video u love anything bike. I love learn more about them as well as watch the move
I love watching the dyno & track racing vidz. I’ve learned a bunch of tips and tricks from you Chris. Thank you 👊
Do all of it… you put out good video. Best on UA-cam!
I appreciate that!
I like to see it all, everything you put out is more then worth watching. I really enjoy it and watch every video at least once.
Julians bike 💪💪💪
I agree fully with black ops……these videos are so good. Just getting into it with a 2021 ZX6R and this is where I got to learn.
Let’s gooooooo new video 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐐
That GSXR1000 ain't nothing but the truth. Great job. 👍
Great video. My 1k hp Hellcat is on e85 also, love the stuff. One consideration for my car was the need for larger injectors based on the thickness of e85 in comparison to 93. Is this not the case on a bike?
Its not the thickness of the fuel its the volume you need to run to maintain stoichiometric equivalence. You run out of inje ctor duty cycle to flow enough fuel on E85 vs normal fuel
@@tke7mu0u that's what I meant in different words, i was trying to keep it simple for the mass public =]
All of your content is awesome. It does not matter if you are tuning, street riding or track riding.
Looks great. Does the extra octane allow you to run more timing advance? Or does that not produce much extra horsepower on a bike?
On a car engine you can get like 5hp extra per degree of timing advance (depends on the engine of course)
You can run more timing on regular 91 and be close to the same as ethanol. About 4 degrees advance (usually) is the most you can do to a stock motor
I do believe the extra octane allows you to run more fuel pump 93 around 13:1 afr vs e85 around 11:1
Rule of thumb, you can run more boost, compression, or timing with ethanol vs 93. In my experience, it's great stuff.
Good to see something new and different fuel on basically stock motor. E85 works good on turbo Busa’s
I like both videos and I will be sending my ecu in very very soon thanks for all u do continue to be blessed and stay safe brother
Love the Dyno videos and that is what made me send you my ecu. Works awesome!
That's pretty damn impressive. I'd like to see E85 vs MR12, SAME DAY/SAME BIKE. A nice comparison video of the two. Because there's no way I'd run MR12 on the street at $35/gallon. Lol
Autos use a ethanol sensor in the fuel lines. Adjust fuel in a closed loop system.
Tuning videos or racing videos, love watching both. Cheers, Pete from NZ.
that bike looks bad ass with that color
El mejor amigo bendiciones y saludos desde México Cozumel Quintana Roo me gustan tus vídeos 🙏🙏
I got to hurry up and get a 2012 zx10r so I can send it to him 😒..bmc red air filter...M4 exhaust...Moore mafia tune..dream bike..
You need to run VP C85 ( stable Ethanol ) or Ethanol R.. The bike IAT need to be bit higher to get all power and need more timing!
Pump e87 that off gasses to 87% is just as good as any race blend. As long as the motor is 173° it’s good to go
Keep the Suzuki stuff going, and I have to say I like the kawi stuff to , Good content
I enjoyed the dyno tune , very entertaining and informative
More to come!
I like both!! Keep a good mix up of both, maybeeee a little more racing than dyno video but we enjoy both!! Thanks Chris
Also E85 has a octane rating of 105 and great for the TREES !
About time cm$, you know I've been waiting lol
10:51 watch the mph on this thing and tell me if you could hold onto it under full acceleration... thing's savagely pulling and the mph is flying up. For those wondering it's top left guage on the screen
It's faster on a Dyno unfortunately. Not realistic to watch that. Still very fast bike
Of course you can😂
Don’t change anything, really enjoy the mix.
I didnt even have to watch the vid to give it the thumbs up, huge Chip fan for a long time. Im a dragbike guy with no boats lol
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Love, love, love the dyno videos Chris! 😎👍❤️🏍
U guys are so lucky with the price of fuel! Here in the uk we get robbed more than $2 for only 1 litre of fuel. At least ur getting a gallon for ur money. Our fuel is normally around 97 ron. Keep up the great vids guys.👍👍
It's just lonely in the mornings without some more mafia videos
Just found the channel, can’t stop watching
It only makes sense if you’re running race E85 because of the variation in pump E85. And there goes your $2/gal pipe dream.
A custom ECU, fuel pump, injectors, and a tune to compensate for any/all ratios of ethanol to gasoline is what it needs to be truly usable on the street.
It sure looks like an easy way to gain 10 hp, but it’s a compromise too.
Can you do a test on Vp c85 vs pump e85 a can of c85 only $55
Cool to see you do more racing and riding vlogs.
Love both, anything bikes man, come on.
Love all your videos.
I love those colors
Chris. If it's dialed on gas. 25-28% gets you close for first e85 runs. On most NA setups. Wanting to do my zx10 on E. Have tuned hundreds of cars on E. Great fuel in so many ways.
I watch any video Moore Mafia puts out. Also don't get me started w fuel in SoCal 🤣🤣🤣
Love the dyno videos
Both. Love learning.
Too bad there wasn't a way to add a flex fuel sensor like cars and trucks do that would automatically through ECU monitor ethanol content and adjust fuel and timing curves.
ZUKE NATION BABY!!!
You did an amazing job with the bike homie congrats
Love em both. Especially dyno
Love the hell out the channel...would never unsubscribe...but it wouldn't hurt my feelings if you forgot the phrase "yeah that's right boys". Lol.
Were is the Injectors duty cycle at with so much fuel needed with stock fuel pump and injectors? Curious…
Not many bike dyno bragging rights so that’s awesome. I’d like to go E85 on a 600.
Here in Brazil we make ethanol with sugar cane that can make 7 times more ethanol than corn... Unfortunatly the US cold winter isnt good for sugar cane.
The gain is half of what my bike's total power is 😂
Love the dyno runs, what the hell are those things bolted on the rear of that Gixxer??😬🤢
love the dyno videos with an occasional race video
You bet E85 is a great alternative. You get a a substantial HP gain for a fraction of the cost of race gas. It's also clean burning. Oil stays clean, fuel system too. To me, it's a no brainer. Ethanol in my area never changes. I tested it frequently as I had a car tuned for E47. That would be 50% 93 & 50% E85 at the pump
I’m here for the dyno videos but the track stuff is cool too.
That is a bargain hp gain and handy for classes like mine where oxygenated gas puts it in a power adder bracket. I love the dyno stuff, we aren't all 100% woke on fine tuning.
Lamb chops managed 204 bhp from an ecu flash/tune, u.k fuel 👍
I like both.
You copied me on doing E85 lol. Na I’m just playing my gen 1 runs really good on E85 with your pump gas map and tuning on top with a pcv 5 with auto and pod 300. I’m maxing out my stock 360cc injectors now so going with 440ccs
Stock 360cc injectors ? Gen 1 hayabusa your talking about ? I had to switch to an aem 380lph pump, drill out the stock internal fuel filter , fit and inline filter with fuel rail taps from Schnitz after I drilled the rail to 12mm and then I fitted s2000 injectors as it was too lean with the stock gen 1 injectors on e85
@@caperformance_motorsports gen 1 zx14. I had to switch to 440cc injectors, crush my fuel pressure regulator a bit, and swap fuel pumps. Its not a flash and done thing. Ive got videos of step by step on what is needed to be done.
I like both of them
Very Nice! I just found this channel, it's BadAss. I normally watch Street Outlaws kinda stuff, though I've loved bikes my entire life. Wanted a Ninja when I was younger until I seen the *gsxr's* and then seen a *Busa,* My God!!
But I just started watching more bike related content being I'm dying to get a motorcycle. Never owned one unfortunately though. *Damn wife will not let me have one!* I understood her not letting me get one when I was younger, probably would of killed myself, but I'm 47 y/o now, and I want to just RIDE. Yet it looks as if *watching* is all I'll ever be able to do. 😔
Thanks though for awesome content, makes me feel tingly inside watching you do your thing. Keep it coming brother. ✌
Personally I'm here for the dyno videos but I do like seeing the track days too!
Chris i like both dyno and the racing so i would prefer both
Mix videos please. Great videos, keep them coming. I bet you could get views on how to fix the handle bar vibs on the new gsxrs. Lol. Thanks for all the great content.
I like them all. Keep mixing it up.
Nice gains. Hope you spent some more time on < 100% throttle. Definitely heard that lean crackle @ 10:50
Love Both.. Keep doing it..