The sad thing is, I don’t think it will ever stop. Unless there is a serious crash in gaming sales (which I doubt), I don’t think we will ever see a positive change. Only new ways to drain out wallets beyond battle passes and micro transactions. Sad
Well there always be games worth playing. Maybe not a blockbuster but a game you enjoy. The crash I thought maybe the high budget games reached the point of not being sustainable anymore. But sadly it seems like gaming started acting like tech industry and ride on the hype cycle for investors. Good product helps but is not necessary, just create a buzz put a few buzzword and pump the stock price. When it drops find another buzz words to pump it up preferably above the values company reached before.
@@mravg79 True, been trying a lot of double AA and indie games have recently (specifically Trepang2 and My friend Pedro) and had a lot of fun playing 'em, something I that I never felt while playing most current major releases.
@@joshuaandrewson3091 I played and finished Pedro. Will I call it a great game? No, not really. But it was a good game, a good fun and challenge that I simply enjoyed and this is what counts. Just find games we enjoy and play them - newer, older, bigger, smaller does not matter. Have a nice time gaming!
Just reminds me during/after Covid all the billion dollar worth pro sports teams started putting ads on their jerseys. All the fans were furious then once they started playing games again they just shrugged their shoulders and went back to consuming the crappy on field product. Consumers have no balls anymore to stand up and voice frustrations. The gaming industry is actually one of the few where consumers voice opinions and stand up to the idiocy
@@hazy33 and let me guess you must be a part of the European Union with your snobbish and entitled attitude thinking you’re better than everyone. Let me tell you there’s no one correct “definition” as you call it when discussing the attire of athletes. Different words are used by different cultures and that’s okay. And btw here in the US we call it different names anyway depending on the sport and origin of the sport so we’re more respectful in that way. And what you’re normalizing by calling it “sponsorships” doesn’t make it civilized. You’re pandering to and being a cuck to corporatism greed. But go off lol. Anyway corporate ad space on jerseys is nothing new in the US we’ve had it on our MLS kits for a long time. I would know considering I work in professional baseball. Having sponsors on the clothing doesn’t make you more “civilized” if anything it makes you more dystopian allowing corporate money to infiltrate your top tier sports leagues for so long
The issue is that even people who grew up with older games don't actually care for this issue. Even communities of Fighting Games and ARPGS such as Diablo, with a whole lot of people in their 30s and 40s, will actively defend these and mock you if you disagree, nobody really cares if you get charged $15 for a skin and that's why they are getting away with all this, abandoning microtransactions and going full on macro
PS2 emulation is basically flawless now and as someone that never had a PS2 growing up I don't think I'm gonna run out of "new" games to play for a long time.
@@nomorenames5568 I recommend Timesplitters future perfect (or any timesplitters game), James Bond Nightfire if you like shooters. WRC Rally Evolved if you like rally and obviously Gran Turismo 3-4 for racing. There are tons of games out there that I don't know about as you said, and ps2 emulation and Dolphin for GameCube are close to perfect now.
Another we as consumers can do is actually buy games too. Subscription services are fine and help sway folks from pirating. But at the same time it’s one of the reasons we are in this state now. This is true of games, music, movies, everything. Invest in the things that you enjoy and try to acquire physical media whenever possible
i miss when games were game and not storefronts with something todo to keep your attention in the hopes you'll buy something out of stockholm syndrome/sunk cost fallacy
As a video game fan since the Sega I agree 100%. The greediness of these game companies has ruined games as we know it. as a individual that literally had nothing entertaining, but outdoor activities video games were my favorite thing to play. now not so much anymore🥺
It is crazy where gaming currently is at. I feel that If you got to grow up thru the 90's, It really did feel the future of gaming was going to be awesome. Gaming wasn't just hyper focused on graphics. It was focused on physics effects, rag doll effects, an assortment of art styles, having a range of gameplay modes, creative and fun gameplay mechanics, satisfying damage effects, in depth environmental interaction, engaging CPU AI to play against in single player modes, CPU bots in offline modes. Current video games focus on graphical nitpicking. It seems they forgot how much players enjoyed physics effects & other aspects that make games fun. Quirky graphics can work, if a creative art style is used. Add a selection of interesting gameplay modes, the list goes on.. I seriously don't know why gaming had to fall into this rut that we are in..? Also: {We have seen that even if companies delay games, it isn't improving the quality of games being released. Which is a sign there is a MUCH DEEPER issue going on with modern games. No excuses, devs used to make great games with much less and they would have given anything to have certain capabilities to utilize that are available today. It just takes actual passion, focus & talent to make great games. Sidenote: It's so crazy how many people are still supporting super mega rich companies putting out unacceptable products.. i don't understand certain people. I don't understand how certain companies can be messing up so badly. It's frustrating that other passionate people are not allowed to make a version of a type of game that we used to have but no longer get anymore.. Yet these huge companies get full control over if an unused game IP gets made & they do everything they can so no other versions of a game idea will ever come out. Even if there's a huge fan base around certain ideas and there's a ton of passionate devs out there dying to make a version of a certain video game idea.. that frustrates me beyond belief}
Tremendous video. I don't have anything new to add that hasn't been said about the miserable state of big-budget gaming. So I'll just leave this comment for the algorithm.
Townscaper, Dystopika and now Tiny Glade. Witnessing a new genre being born is always cool, but it's so rare to have games with this level of quality in the beginning of it. Be sure to check them out, I love em.
3 minutes in and I know this is a banger. I hate whats happened to video games, so I'm just going to keeo ignoring the present, and playing on my emulators and on delisted racing sims, I'm having a great time!
I’m glad people are getting to play LA Noire on the new consoles. One of my favorite game of all time. (Oh and you don’t need an internet connection to play it!)
Dear Wimp, full ack on every single thing you said. On the other hand, there are studios like Klei (Oxygen not included) and Coffee Stain Studios (Satisfactory) showing the big ones how you should handle this gaming stuff. I am pretty sure that there are lots of other studios out there, acting on a same level. But what remains is this NBA2Crap and Forza smell. Sad times.
Oh anthem… the first game I was fully committed to before it actually releasing. So much potential and I still hope that one day it’ll be remade or something
Seems to me that if the publishers are trying to sell you the privilege of not playing the game, that's a pretty good sign of what they think playing the game is worth.
Top notch video as per Sam! I see your back at it with a shirt that looks like its made from hemp, looks quite heavy and possibly scratchy - please confirm. You've hit the nail on the head with the notion that modern gaming is terrible but what are your thoughts on how the current generation of kids see gaming? My 5 year old is just starting to experience gaming and I worry that the current AAA gaming experience is going to be the normal and get worse from here - introducing him to retro gaming to try and remedy. Great work as usual, I'm going to try a bit of reverse psychology here and request that you DONT MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT F1 BRAKING POINT STORY MODE LIKE I KEEP ASKING AND WILL CONTINUE TO UNTIL IT HAPPENS.
First time viewer. Algorithm served you up. Great video that reflects arguments hear across the gaming internet. If I see that fucking MW3 Battle Pass screen one more time… but lovely little montage at the end to remind us why we love it so much
I think my favorite is that Tears of the Kingdom was a complete game with no dlc or heinous microtransactions and everyone online called it a $70 dlc. No wonder gaming is in the state it’s in now.
Yea for me Gaming has finally reached the point that the TV and Movie industry did around the early 2010s. Just awful quality control,Awful writing,Awful everything really. With a rare good or meh thing inbetween. Which reminds me that these games will keep on being bought by the brain dead consumers like these trash movies that are the worst decade ever for it.
I find it so weird that on my Xbox that can run amazing games like Red Dead Redemption 2 or The Witcher 3 with great graphics that hold up still today, I spent way more time playing Shovel Knight and Rayman Legends...
The only positive of Game pass recently for me has been the fact they are trying so damn hard to get people to sign up for it, they offer ultimate for $1 for a month like every other month if you keep canceling. Also if you start a sub, you can cancel it anytime within the first 29 days and you get a refund. So whenever i get the itch i sub to gamepass ultimate so i can play the ea game or halo or whatever. At worst you spent $20 to play a very large selection of games between pc/xbox, at best you loaned Microsoft $20 and they let you play all their games. Gaming is in a rough state, i just recently picked up an Xbox series S for a whooping $100 just so i could play the new College Football Game, but i refuse to play EA's bullshit Ultimate team stuff. I only buy MTX's from smaller games that i find so i can support them further, but 90% of games are bloated time wasting wallet suckers
I used to play nba2k pretty competitively but now i just wait til one is below ten dollars on steam and dont buy vc. Im still playing 23 but may actually get 25 because its going to be the next gen version on pc
How is Far Cry 6 a step in the right direction? I'm kinda biased since FC5 is my favorite one, and I never really liked the previous games tbh, but FC has so many unncesserary, pointless mechanics slapped on to it, the game turned into a chore. Sure all the mircrotransactions in 5 were annoying, but atleast the game was somewhat enjoyable.
There was a poll showing 70% of gamers are playing games 10 years or older. Modern gaming is in a lot of trouble, but it's their own damn fault, if we'd rather play older games that are better.
As long as people keep paying for micro transactions, pre-order AAA shit and most of all spending money for dumb phones games nothing will change and just will be worse and worse with time. Remember : you vote with your wallet.
i would really love to see your opinion on No Mans Sky, a game that started off as an immediate apology to fans but bounced back to the states its at now. just an idea😁
There will come a point where this strategy won't be feasible anymore. People are wising up to it, parents will be less likely to hand over their credit cards knowing how this game economy works. Also you can't get away with making a shitty product forever.
Alone in the dark has some great concepts but was just too ambitious.The clunky controls and overly difficult learning curve Dementered the fun out of it.
The sad thing is, I don’t think it will ever stop. Unless there is a serious crash in gaming sales (which I doubt), I don’t think we will ever see a positive change.
Only new ways to drain out wallets beyond battle passes and micro transactions. Sad
Well there always be games worth playing. Maybe not a blockbuster but a game you enjoy.
The crash I thought maybe the high budget games reached the point of not being sustainable anymore.
But sadly it seems like gaming started acting like tech industry and ride on the hype cycle for investors. Good product helps but is not necessary, just create a buzz put a few buzzword and pump the stock price. When it drops find another buzz words to pump it up preferably above the values company reached before.
@@mravg79 True, been trying a lot of double AA and indie games have recently (specifically Trepang2 and My friend Pedro) and had a lot of fun playing 'em, something I that I never felt while playing most current major releases.
@@joshuaandrewson3091 I played and finished Pedro. Will I call it a great game? No, not really. But it was a good game, a good fun and challenge that I simply enjoyed and this is what counts. Just find games we enjoy and play them - newer, older, bigger, smaller does not matter.
Have a nice time gaming!
Always online, massive storage downloads, broken games, updates, battle passes, I'd rather play a jail broken PS3 over a PS5.
I play my PlayStation 2 over my PS5 and Xbox One
@@jakepophal985bro buy a PS2 with a HDD that has 12 TB of games....its just simply better.
@@k-2768i see a hdd w this on ebay for $600. Is that the price i should be paying n can i trust ebay sellers for this?
Jailbreaked my 3DS recently and it was the best decision ever ❤❤ old games >>>>>> new battle passes scams
I'm playing more on my PS3 than PS4 rn.
You're absolutely one of the most underrated creators on youtube. Awesome video!
This comment is the wonder and beauty of this lovely life we live ❤️
Edging to this comment rn
@@AD3SPG What? LoL
@@Skumtomten1 I'm not a bot I promise 😂
@@AD3SPG That is exactly what a bot is programmed to say :)
The piano tune at the end is brilliant!
No spoilers
Just reminds me during/after Covid all the billion dollar worth pro sports teams started putting ads on their jerseys. All the fans were furious then once they started playing games again they just shrugged their shoulders and went back to consuming the crappy on field product. Consumers have no balls anymore to stand up and voice frustrations. The gaming industry is actually one of the few where consumers voice opinions and stand up to the idiocy
You must be a USA'er. There has been sponsorship on shirts (to give the proper definition) for about 3 decades in the civilised world.
@@hazy33 and let me guess you must be a part of the European Union with your snobbish and entitled attitude thinking you’re better than everyone. Let me tell you there’s no one correct “definition” as you call it when discussing the attire of athletes. Different words are used by different cultures and that’s okay. And btw here in the US we call it different names anyway depending on the sport and origin of the sport so we’re more respectful in that way. And what you’re normalizing by calling it “sponsorships” doesn’t make it civilized. You’re pandering to and being a cuck to corporatism greed. But go off lol. Anyway corporate ad space on jerseys is nothing new in the US we’ve had it on our MLS kits for a long time. I would know considering I work in professional baseball. Having sponsors on the clothing doesn’t make you more “civilized” if anything it makes you more dystopian allowing corporate money to infiltrate your top tier sports leagues for so long
Im so happy i found you, such an underrated youtuber!!! Love the quality of the content
STANDARDS people, STANDARDS!
My first time with this was the COD map packs.
"Give us $15 for these 4 maps we'd already made after you've given us $60"
I just miss the days single player games were offline
The issue is that even people who grew up with older games don't actually care for this issue. Even communities of Fighting Games and ARPGS such as Diablo, with a whole lot of people in their 30s and 40s, will actively defend these and mock you if you disagree, nobody really cares if you get charged $15 for a skin and that's why they are getting away with all this, abandoning microtransactions and going full on macro
It's best to just ignore whatever new triple a game comes out and focus on older triple a and indies most of the time
PS2 emulation is basically flawless now and as someone that never had a PS2 growing up I don't think I'm gonna run out of "new" games to play for a long time.
@@nomorenames5568 I recommend Timesplitters future perfect (or any timesplitters game), James Bond Nightfire if you like shooters. WRC Rally Evolved if you like rally and obviously Gran Turismo 3-4 for racing. There are tons of games out there that I don't know about as you said, and ps2 emulation and Dolphin for GameCube are close to perfect now.
imagine when ps3 emulation gets optimal@@nomorenames5568
The message in this video, the video itself and this channel all need more traction. Massive thumbs up 👍
The video is only correct if you play a certain type of AAA game. Just play others, it's as simple as that.
Underrated hard working channel found!
Another we as consumers can do is actually buy games too. Subscription services are fine and help sway folks from pirating. But at the same time it’s one of the reasons we are in this state now. This is true of games, music, movies, everything. Invest in the things that you enjoy and try to acquire physical media whenever possible
i miss when games were game and not storefronts with something todo to keep your attention in the hopes you'll buy something out of stockholm syndrome/sunk cost fallacy
As a video game fan since the Sega I agree 100%. The greediness of these game companies has ruined games as we know it. as a individual that literally had nothing entertaining, but outdoor activities video games were my favorite thing to play. now not so much anymore🥺
You are quickly becoming one of my favourite UA-cam creators
I love it the way he is down at the bottom with a microphone in his hand like this is a TED talk about video games
It is crazy where gaming currently is at. I feel that If you got to grow up thru the 90's, It really did feel the future of gaming was going to be awesome. Gaming wasn't just hyper focused on graphics. It was focused on physics effects, rag doll effects, an assortment of art styles, having a range of gameplay modes, creative and fun gameplay mechanics, satisfying damage effects, in depth environmental interaction, engaging CPU AI to play against in single player modes, CPU bots in offline modes. Current video games focus on graphical nitpicking. It seems they forgot how much players enjoyed physics effects & other aspects that make games fun. Quirky graphics can work, if a creative art style is used. Add a selection of interesting gameplay modes, the list goes on.. I seriously don't know why gaming had to fall into this rut that we are in..?
Also:
{We have seen that even if companies delay games, it isn't improving the quality of games being released. Which is a sign there is a MUCH DEEPER issue going on with modern games. No excuses, devs used to make great games with much less and they would have given anything to have certain capabilities to utilize that are available today. It just takes actual passion, focus & talent to make great games. Sidenote: It's so crazy how many people are still supporting super mega rich companies putting out unacceptable products.. i don't understand certain people. I don't understand how certain companies can be messing up so badly. It's frustrating that other passionate people are not allowed to make a version of a type of game that we used to have but no longer get anymore.. Yet these huge companies get full control over if an unused game IP gets made & they do everything they can so no other versions of a game idea will ever come out. Even if there's a huge fan base around certain ideas and there's a ton of passionate devs out there dying to make a version of a certain video game idea.. that frustrates me beyond belief}
Because it got taken over by corporate think. Making bland products that offend nobody and change nothing. To maximise profits and customer base.
Keep up the awesome videos man! Love your channel!
Tremendous video. I don't have anything new to add that hasn't been said about the miserable state of big-budget gaming. So I'll just leave this comment for the algorithm.
Hmm, I too algorithm
HOW do you only have like 6k subs??? The effort is insane
Any simpsons references is always appreciated
"Maybe he's born with it..."
"Maybe it's gangsta lean!"
I feel like I’m watching the early moments of what will soon be a million plus subscriber channel.
Criminally underrated channel
Ahhh man… “This was supposed to be about the Anthem… Throw all your hands up”
Super underrated channel. Keep it up!
Don't know why this video was in my algorithm, but hell yeah I'm glad it was. I am now subbed. Fantastic video, and I agree 100%.
Townscaper, Dystopika and now Tiny Glade. Witnessing a new genre being born is always cool, but it's so rare to have games with this level of quality in the beginning of it.
Be sure to check them out, I love em.
Another solid video mate can see you blowing up big time got the big UA-camr feel about your videos. Also love all The Simpsons cuts
I SAW FOOTAGE OF THE FALL IN THERE AT THE END!
I am *STILL* salty that we left off on a fahkin' cliffhanger in the second game.
that montage at the end… wow
Really enjoy the end games are great video composition at the end
I spot midnight suns in that montage. You really are based.
3 minutes in and I know this is a banger. I hate whats happened to video games, so I'm just going to keeo ignoring the present, and playing on my emulators and on delisted racing sims, I'm having a great time!
HOW DOES THIS GUY ONLY HAVE 7K SUBS!!! LOVE THE VIDEOS KEEP UP THE GREAT WORM I mean work
Always on point and honest. But it's not that publishers are afraid to take risks it's "how can we input the least and gain the most Out$$$$Put back"
I’m glad people are getting to play LA Noire on the new consoles. One of my favorite game of all time. (Oh and you don’t need an internet connection to play it!)
WHERE ARE YOUR SUBSCRIBERS? This is such a good channel.
Ubisoft is remaking the first Splinter Cell actually
So glad you included mad max for ps3 in that end montage. Fucking great game
This guy is like ordinary things but gaming
Seeing that .2 seconds of a baseball bat on fire reallllly sent my mind back in time
The end of your videos just make me think of the Robert Redford nod GIF
underrated channel
Awesome video mate. Subbed
Dear Wimp, full ack on every single thing you said. On the other hand, there are studios like Klei (Oxygen not included) and Coffee Stain Studios (Satisfactory) showing the big ones how you should handle this gaming stuff. I am pretty sure that there are lots of other studios out there, acting on a same level. But what remains is this NBA2Crap and Forza smell. Sad times.
You've done an amazing job of raising my blood pressure #raging
Oh anthem… the first game I was fully committed to before it actually releasing. So much potential and I still hope that one day it’ll be remade or something
Hell yeah! BTW Yakuza Zero is hella awesome, and did you just show some footage of Track Mania!?
Seems to me that if the publishers are trying to sell you the privilege of not playing the game, that's a pretty good sign of what they think playing the game is worth.
love your content so funny
Great as always ❤
10000% right. I feel like I've been saying all these things for a decade. ❤
i appreciate your work 🫡
Just discovered you… underrated ash 😂
I had about 1 hour of "fun" in Anthem just flying around in a suit I got to color myself but the "fun" pretty much ends there
Top notch video as per Sam! I see your back at it with a shirt that looks like its made from hemp, looks quite heavy and possibly scratchy - please confirm. You've hit the nail on the head with the notion that modern gaming is terrible but what are your thoughts on how the current generation of kids see gaming? My 5 year old is just starting to experience gaming and I worry that the current AAA gaming experience is going to be the normal and get worse from here - introducing him to retro gaming to try and remedy. Great work as usual, I'm going to try a bit of reverse psychology here and request that you DONT MAKE A VIDEO ABOUT F1 BRAKING POINT STORY MODE LIKE I KEEP ASKING AND WILL CONTINUE TO UNTIL IT HAPPENS.
Bought College Football and EA had already started trying to shove Madden down my throat.
WEIRD WEIRD!
Alone in the dark had such potential!
First time viewer. Algorithm served you up. Great video that reflects arguments hear across the gaming internet. If I see that fucking MW3 Battle Pass screen one more time… but lovely little montage at the end to remind us why we love it so much
Let's appreciate HOW AMAZING L.A. NOIRE IS just a little bit. OMG the game is old but ages like fine wine!! It's amazing
Next cover the best shooting games while mimicking Chopper Read. Thanks!
Nailed it. Good memes. Will be back ♥glhf
Love your videos, can we get Dirt Rally 2.0 videos or EA WRC? Maybe AC or ACC as well?
My question is after this whole mr beast drama, are loot boxes a illegal lottery/gambling?
To be fair the first game was Anthem and I think everyone that touched it could agree it made them want to be a ceiling fan ornament
And that’s why I only play old games.
ghost of tsushima
I think my favorite is that Tears of the Kingdom was a complete game with no dlc or heinous microtransactions and everyone online called it a $70 dlc. No wonder gaming is in the state it’s in now.
Yea for me Gaming has finally reached the point that the TV and Movie industry did around the early 2010s.
Just awful quality control,Awful writing,Awful everything really.
With a rare good or meh thing inbetween.
Which reminds me that these games will keep on being bought by the brain dead consumers like these trash movies that are the worst decade ever for it.
Full time job to avoid weirdness in everything nowadays.
I find it so weird that on my Xbox that can run amazing games like Red Dead Redemption 2 or The Witcher 3 with great graphics that hold up still today, I spent way more time playing Shovel Knight and Rayman Legends...
The secret about Ms publishing psychonauts 2 is that that game had been beimg developed long before Ms bought double fine
The only positive of Game pass recently for me has been the fact they are trying so damn hard to get people to sign up for it, they offer ultimate for $1 for a month like every other month if you keep canceling. Also if you start a sub, you can cancel it anytime within the first 29 days and you get a refund. So whenever i get the itch i sub to gamepass ultimate so i can play the ea game or halo or whatever. At worst you spent $20 to play a very large selection of games between pc/xbox, at best you loaned Microsoft $20 and they let you play all their games.
Gaming is in a rough state, i just recently picked up an Xbox series S for a whooping $100 just so i could play the new College Football Game, but i refuse to play EA's bullshit Ultimate team stuff. I only buy MTX's from smaller games that i find so i can support them further, but 90% of games are bloated time wasting wallet suckers
I really enjoyed this video and couldn’t agree more. Now get off my lawn!!!!
I used to play nba2k pretty competitively but now i just wait til one is below ten dollars on steam and dont buy vc. Im still playing 23 but may actually get 25 because its going to be the next gen version on pc
bro just needs to play Deep Rock Galactic
How is Far Cry 6 a step in the right direction?
I'm kinda biased since FC5 is my favorite one, and I never really liked the previous games tbh, but FC has so many unncesserary, pointless mechanics slapped on to it, the game turned into a chore.
Sure all the mircrotransactions in 5 were annoying, but atleast the game was somewhat enjoyable.
He Said Far Cry 6 Was A Step BACK In The Right Direction
There was a poll showing 70% of gamers are playing games 10 years or older. Modern gaming is in a lot of trouble, but it's their own damn fault, if we'd rather play older games that are better.
As long as people keep paying for micro transactions, pre-order AAA shit and most of all spending money for dumb phones games nothing will change and just will be worse and worse with time. Remember : you vote with your wallet.
Not one update was needed to play
Newer generations don't have an imagination simple!
i would really love to see your opinion on No Mans Sky, a game that started off as an immediate apology to fans but bounced back to the states its at now. just an idea😁
You're now my favorite Aussie UA-camr after gmanlives shilled too close to the sun for star wars outlaws
What is the game at 11:37? looks like prodeus but not sure.
Sounds like his internet quality is down under 😂
All I can say is I’m so grateful Nintendo’s corporate bs haven’t impacted their first party games… only the communities 😬
Returnal is so fucking good. HADES was my intro to that genre. Fucking love that game too
Spot on mate.
Give far cry 1 another shot bro. It is genuinely so good if a bit punishing
Maybe the backwards compatibility caused issues with Anthem. I just played an hour without any problems.
There will come a point where this strategy won't be feasible anymore. People are wising up to it, parents will be less likely to hand over their credit cards knowing how this game economy works. Also you can't get away with making a shitty product forever.
I play NBA 2K14 on XBox 360. I will never upgrade from this after buying 2K20, just for the servers to be taken offline. DONE!
Modern games are the best ones we've ever made. Too bad the good ones share space with AAA slop.
I have long since voted with my wallet and not buying into modern sports games and ubislops.
Where’s that angryjoeshow clip from
Alone in the dark has some great concepts but was just too ambitious.The clunky controls and overly difficult learning curve Dementered the fun out of it.