What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? - Blanche Knows
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2008
- Desperate to stay alive, Blanche enters Jane's room and finds some old chocolates. However, she soon discovers her sister's immense hatred for her. She also discovers Jane has been forging and cashing her disability checks and spending money without her knowledge.
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Crawford did that entire scene without one word of dialogue. Great performances from both actresses.
To monumentally talented actresses in the same scenes together. Wow.
vistaestrada finally someone who acknowledged and understands and appreciates Crawford's acting
vistaestrada si è vero. Joan Crawford senza dialoghi ha una ottima padronanza scenica, come solo le grandi attrici sanno fare
No doubt because of her training in silent films of the 1920's.
vistaestrada that’s the benefit of having started out in silent films.
When Joan Crawford is on the screen, I can't look away. She is mesmerising.
I don’t ever understand why Bette Davis gets all the credit and I’m going to be honest, I mean yes Bette Davis is a legend and deserves lots of praise, recognition, appreciation, and respect for her work but I do believe and feel strongly that sometimes she is overrated and given too much praise and Joan Crawford I feel is always given too little. I know people always say Bette was the better actress and Joan was more of the star and beauty but I completely disagree with society. To me when I watch Crawford and Davis they are without a doubt equally amazing in their work and both of them are screen legends. Crawford definitely was a a great beauty and a star but she deserves as much praise for her talent as Bette Davis does and sadly doesn’t get it much from audiences and people. Davis deserves much more appreciation for her beauty because I think she was more more praise for her beauty than given credit for. I thought she was really pretty in her youth in films like Jezebel and All About Eve. So to sum it up both actresses deserve more credit in the areas they are not recognized in. Crawford for her immense talent and Davis in her immense beauty. Just think it’s important to put this out there because I love both of their work both wonderfully talented actresses
Joan should have gotten an Supporting Actress nod (at least). She's so good!
That would have been more insulting to her than being passed up for Best Actress! Supporting Actress to Bette???
I think they can only submit their work to one category. Either leading actress or supporting. And for that film, they both thought they were leads when in fact they were both supporting each other’s performance.
@@viniciusrafer3055 That is why a lot of people were shocked when Meryl Streep, in pursuit of her first Oscar, opted for Best Supporting Actress in "Kramer vs. Kramer". Almost always does anyone playing a titled character compete in the Lead category.
Hollywood don't make a star like them anymore
It's not Hollywood's fault that they're aren't movie stars anymore. Blame the 2,000 cable stations, the Internet, I-phone, and all the other entertainment mediums now available. No actor can hope to reach an audience that is now so diffused throughout so many entertainment mediums.
@Tom Cross those aren't even words
Blanche is the only one to sign the checks on that account. Jane forged her signature so she could get the costume (?) she needed for her demented..I mean, new act.
Those chocolates were actually chunks of meat! Joan, a native Texan, absolutely loved meat, and insisted that this be used rather than real chocolates.
atlantic1119 and she was always on a strict diet. I doubt chocolate was an acceptable item on her rigid food plan
What about the flask she kept hidden in her bra. Was that part of her diet as well?
And I will bet the meat was blood rare! :D
I listened to her audiobook (My Way of Life) where she explained that she was physically so exhausted from using the wheelchair. That is why she wanted meat (= protein) instead of chocolate. She made little meatballs at home and ate those during this scene.
ätlantic1999" But how did the special effects people get the meat to look so much like chocolate?
Also bare in my mind, it was also Crawford’s idea to Robert Aldrich to work with Bette Davis for this film. After working for Bob for his 1956 film Autumn Leaves, Joan did have lee way to have discussions with him and have opportunity to revitalize her own career and In a way Bette Davis career as well. Both of their careers were fading by 1962 when his film was made. She wanted to work with her and approached her while Bette was performing in the theatre. They needed each other to make the picture work. Without Crawford there would be no baby Jane and without Bette There would be no baby Jane. The two of them are great in this film and no one could do justice to these two divas.
The dubbed munching noises are just ridiculous but I love this movie!
maszlagma I’m not too surprised they did that. From what I understand Joan Crawford had 6 of her molars extracted when she was on her early 20s. So she probably couldn’t have made the munching noises as loud as she could have due to her lack of molars which are obviously used to help thoroughly chew your food. Does that make sense?
klassicalmuzik Yes, I agree.
Well, eating actual chocolates would not have produced that type of noise. Joan was really eating pieces of meat, and since meat is moister, the sound is correspondingly accurate.
@@nassauguy48 and @klassicalmuzik I guess it could be an individual thing but it seems that the fewer teeth you have the more you cannot control certain movements of your inner cheeks and lips and it seems that your inner cheeks and lips would be more likely to make smacking sounds without teeth in the way, but also it seems you can use your tongue against the roof of your mouth ( try it). And it did not seem so much like munching sounds than breathing a certain way as Blanche savors the taste. As far as meat being moister than chocolates, well if those chocolates were in a drawer than in the refrigerator they would be soft and perhaps almost melted. It seems that the climate that this particular scene depicts, it is warm or even hot so the chocolates would be "moist" in a significant way. Now somehow I cannot help but ask this, what would you want to eat if you were acting out this scene ? Even though you would supposed to be eating chocolates, would you want to act out a scene in which you are actually eating chocolate ? Oh, another thing, what if you were actually in Blanche's situation? Your sister is not giving you food and you are hungry? Where would you go to find food?
lol I feel the same way. Poor Blanche usually ends up getting caught and punished. She should have kept trying to call at the neighbor for help :)
But if she would have done that than there could not have been the rest of the movie.....the doctors just would have taken Jane away and that would have to have been the end...it was purposely written so the neighbor wouldnt hear her...
@@russellkrever8041 True, but that made the scenario so unrealistic. She is tossing notes to the neighbor rather than calling out? She did not ask the housekeeper to just take her out of there? She also had access to all the money, so she did not have to worry about finances.
She had bread, muffins, and butter on the plates with the bird and the rat. She could have eaten those and not gone hungry. She was a pain in the neck with that buzzer too.
Yikes, but the bacteria from the dead animals would definitely have traveled onto the food.
Really, David? Would you have?!? I don't think so!
Would you eat off a plate that had dead, disease carrying animals on it? It traumatized her
All I saw besides the dead animals was sliced tomatoes and a lump of potato salad.
The chequebooks were huge back then
They still make them. Their called desktop or business checks
Those types of check books still exist to this day. They're usually used for businesses and for CPAs.
Me digging into a Whitman’s Sampler..
"Blanche, you're in danger girl"
This is the one scene that has me wondering about cutting and edit. Jane is driving the Lincoln out of the driveway but is somehow able to shift the car from first to second while making a 90" turn to the right. A Lincoln of that year was not able to to do that. It had to be in first gear to do that turn while using the clutch, otherwise it got the hiccups. But Jane was clearly seen shifting from first to second while going down the driveway. This gear head will just keep watching Feud and point out the differences.
Crail Clinton wow! u sound like Marisa Tomei’s character in My Cousin Vinny. Specifically I’m referring to the scene where she testifies in the courtroom as an auto mechanic expert
It's just a movie!!!
"Crail Clinton" Thanks for pointing that out. There are often those odd things in movies that do not make sense in real life.
I like to imagine Blanche survived and of course, Jane went to the insane asylum. lol
The latter definitely happened, but the movie leaves the fate of Blanche to be very ambiguous.
That's why there should be a Part 2.
@@jackanthony976 I agree, it would be amazing if there were a sequel. Although the 'pazazz' just won't be there anymore without the original actresses. The only way I could see myself watching a second movie is if the parts were played by, from the feud series, Jessica Lange and Susan Sarandon. Now, THAT would be awesome.
This is the only reason why Jane, as much as she hated Blanche and living in that house, stayed on. It was never out of guilt about what she thought she did to Blanche. She did not have that type of conscience. She knew that Blanche was the "sugar sister" and could not admit that she could never have lived on her meager earnings as a child star.
@lizclegg She finds out that Jane has been stealing her cheques and forging her signature. Oh she also scribbled over a picture of Blanche when she was famous, but that's par the usual for crazy Baby Jane.
good film
One odd thing is that Blanche, while looking for something to eat since her sister, Baby Jane , is making her go hungry, just looks at the box of candy on the bed and after looking for some candy and finds there isn't any, just discards all the candy wrappers across the bed and overturns the small box they were in. Wouldn't Jane find out about it later?
Also just what did Blanche find out here?
I was thinking the same thing and Blanche finds out that Jane has been forging her signature on the checks that she's supposed to be cashing them out for her but, instead Jane is keeping them for herself
I adored victor buono
Man. I would have felt like a huge dirty hill if I made somebody starve or go thirsty. I would have felt terrible.
I don't need to be hungry to eat a box of Sees candy this fast. Ask my co-workers...
"elderly poodle" That's the spirit.
It's just sad, like how could you treat someone like that? Her own sister, at that.... Blanche seemed like a really nice lady.... just happened to be in a wheelchair!!!
If you think about it, Blanche brought all this on herself by trying to run Jane over when in fact she was the one who ended up being crippled.
To put it most accuratlu, both of them are at fault. Yes Blanche did try to run over Jane but Jane is no saint either. She for over board with Blanche and Blanche is not innocent but no one dearvees to be treated like that. They are both at fault
Blanche chews like a hog with one hell of a nasal blockage!!!
That’s cause she was starving to death and was malnourished in this movie
"Christ!" Lmfao that's so Bette....
I'm sure you're not alone. I can't remember if Blanche confronts Jane with her "discovery".
the munching noises are dubbed.
it is a good film though!
thanks for posting!
It seems Blanche found a check book record with a list of what her sister spent money on. I don't see how it means that Jane was taking Blanche's disability checks.
Joan looked better in this movie because she had softer makeup and hair, but all in all this was Bette's movie.
This is why Bette got the Oscar nomination nod, and Joan was left empty handed.
Brock White crock of bs, Bette Davis outshines her because people like more and acknowledge her more as an actress. Joan is really just as great. She is sadly an underated actress especially compare to Bette, not less talented though. I think they are both amazing in this film. No one could have played Balnche better than Joan and no one could have played Jane better than Bette.
Brock White yes I think that Joan’s performance was underrated but this was definitely Bettie’s movie. If you want to see Joan at her best I recommend Mildred Pierce, Grand Hotel, Sadie McKee, and even Rain (a film of her own which she hated).
No it’s both theirs and to be honest if Joan Crawford did not exist Bette Davis never would have done this film and the film would have never happened. I know this from all my homework and studying about these two women from this time frame and even in the tv Show Feud this is the case. Crawford is sadly very undermined and underrated as very talented actress and deserves way more credit than she is given. She and Bette are equal but in a very different ways. Just my opinion and Joan deserved to be nominated. She is very vulnerable in this film and she brings a lot to the character of Blanche.
klassicalmuzik yes I know about all those films I have watched all of Joan’s films and I have watched all of Bette’s films but I do believe that this film is also some of Japan’s best work. Her vulnerability and talent in this role is awesome and she and Bette are equally talented.
Bette is my favorite
My sister and I used to fight like cats and dogs.
Bits ans pieces
NYum nyum nyum
@larsonly LOL that is soooooo funny. I wish I was a fly on the wall to see that...
i want to seee the all movie.
You haven't seen the movie? It played in all the movie theatres when it went into general release in 1962.
@larsonly LMAO why did Bette say Balls? :P
BTW, what did Blanche find out?
That Jane had been forging Blanche's name on her checks and cash them out to use on herself instead of giving the money to Blanche and you see the paper with her name written on it and the autograph, Jane practiced forging her sisters name on her checks
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I don't like Baby Jane what dhe does to her sister, she makes her starve and thats mean and crule.
@ligreekguy It's rare, not raw....meat loses it's vitamins if it's over cooked, the Dr. said so.............
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