Bro, no need to start your videos with a disclaimer/ apology. This is YOUR 32, mod it the way that pleases YOU...everyone that is subbed to your channel will appreciate the fact that you are sharing (more than anything) the process of installation and troubleshooting so that it may save us the headaches should we decide to do the same mods. Thanks for taking the time to bring detailed content man....much appreciated
Hey thank you man. I hear ya, I just anticipate the few people that always find negative stuff to say. But I know what you're saying! Thank you for the support and kind words.
Super affordable for an upgrade that is very important once you start getting up there in HP. Treasure trove of info in this video and with most of the parts available on Amazon, hope this video convinces some r32 gtr owners out there who otherwise wouldn't have upgraded their brakes - we all need to be safe out there.
Been wanting to do big brake kit on my r32 soon, thank you so much for making this video, This will be so helpful for me moving forward. As much as I want to go with ENDLESS or 6Grex, they are just so damn expensive, I could probably buy another RB26 for the price of those kits :( 350z or R34 might be the way to go.
Outstanding! I recently got Z33 Brembos F/R. I've been hesitant on drilling the GK tech knuckles I'm running however, after seeing this I don't see why i would! I flipped through the comments and see its still holding up. I don't see why i would have any issue using this same method on the set up mentioned above unless there is something I'm missing? liked and subscribed thanks for the video.
The brakes are still doing well, I only did the fronts because I wasn't sure which rotors to use in the rear (drum style ebrake) and I haven't test fit rear calipers from a 350z to see if they bolt up or not.
Why yes... I am an OG member.😉 Not too long ago, I wondered about when you would be doing this mod and I knew it would come in due time. Hey man, nothing wrong with a budget-friendly car mod. I'm sure most of your viewers can appreciate that (especially the ones who have a family, house, etc. to support). That setup looks great, Dustin!💚 Just think, with all the money you saved, you could do another AR build or something.😉 #merica 🇺🇸 Have a great day, brother!
Hahaha thank you, Mick! You're definitely an OG! My wife may not be very agreeing with another AR lol. That was my first time launching at this power level... Its... Well... Exciting lol
@@Goodezilla Haha, yes sir. Exciting to watch and I'm sure it's even better to feel those butterflies. And you're right. Treat your wife to something nice instead.😊 Y'all have a good one.
Awesome job not stripping your brake lines. I wasnt so lucky and I ended up stripping every single flared fitting that went into each of my calipers. Luckily the Nismo Heritage program was able to get me all new lines, but there was a lot of waiting. In the future (and what I learned) , a flare nut wrench was much safer for those fragile flare nuts. Nice job man.
A good informative and super easy to understand video. My question is why? I may consider doing this, but not sure that there is much difference. Are the brakes that much bigger than the stock 32 gtr calipers? Thanks 👍
Hey thank you. The 350z front Brembo calipers and rotors are the same size as the R33 front Brembo calipers and rotors. So I figure, if Nissan deemed it a worth while upgrade over the previous non-Brembo design, then it's probably a good upgrade.
@Goodezilla that's a good point, well made Was looking at the price of them, and in the UK, they're approx 1 third the price of r33 gtr brembo calipers and discs Thansk for the info. My next upgrade 👍
@goodezilla- so I love what you have done for us down to the very details on how to do this. I also have to give you a shout out because I bought exactly everything you listed and about to do this upgrade. Thanks man. Side note question, I don’t want to just toss my old front brakes. Will I be able to put the old front brakes and use them on my rear ones since they are smaller to start with? I’m trying to save cost. Thanks man.
Thank you for the support! You could put them in the rear with some custom made brackets, but the front to rear bias would be way off. You'd need much bigger brakes in the front than these.
GoodeZilla so to get it straight, I would need a much bigger brake setup in the front to have the old front ones to use in the rear... is it because it’s too powerful to use on the rear end and will not stop properly? Thank for your help in the GTR community brother!
@@CarsAndTan yes that's pretty much it. Without getting some sort of brake bias control, it would most likely just lock the rears up every time you hit the brakes.
Actually there are some owners that are crazy on BBKs. Well, maybe not in the U.S. But there are many of them, had a couple of friends in Japan and in U.K. 😂 As for the brakes, we have OEM brembos for the BNR32, the V-Spec ones. They are the same with the BCNR33, but price wise is the same also, it has the "GTR Tax" as well. LOL. Evo calipers are cheaper too, so they are good options, even the Z ones.
You didn't watch till the end good sir lol. I show the size difference. The new rotors are 296mm over stock 280mm. It's the same as R33 factory Brembo brakes.
Hey, GZ. I learned so much through your trials and accomplishments. Funny thing, I was looking at a upgrade for my GTR (32) as well, which lead me here! Once again, Brother, Thanks! I would add this tip to my own!! Two more questions: - what would you recommend for the rear brakes? - Are you going to Import Alliance in ATL for March 2020?
Hey man, I'm glad my videos can help you out! For the rear brakes you can always source the actual R33 Skyline brembos..but they are a pretty penny. I've not really looked into the rear setup yet. I'd have to look around at the options, as I don't want to run a dual caliper setup for the ebrake. I'd like to keep the stock drum style ebrake/rotor setup. I am not going to that. That is very far from me, and I work full time.
This is an awesome vid and thanks for the links, just a heads up, the part number cast on my brakes I got from amazon were actually GM corvette (547806) brakes, not Brembos. They may be similar but was a bit odd, not what amazon says they should be, make sure to check your part number if you do this, box from cardone was matching part number but not inside..
Learned pretty much all the calipers getting refurb'd are likely from Brembo even older OEM Part#, but got it sorted with a Brembo stamped one, appreciate the post
I'm sure there is a similar kit that utilises evo6 brembo Brakes which are substantially bigger than the standard GTR items. I might have to do a bit if research and see if these 350 ones are a better option Great video... keep them coming!!🤙
Hey brother. I just did the Brembo Bif brake kit from Brembo. 6 pot front and 4 rear. A huge improvement. This seems to be a good alternative as mine was close to 6k. Also who you using for the powder coating?
Very interesting to go big brake :) the green make it pops throught the wheels, you should have a screw on the rotor to make it stay in place and i think you miss it
Thank you for watching. Not all rotors have a screw to keep it in place. The hole on this rotor is actually to help get it off the hub if its rusted on. You screw a bolt into the whole and it pushes it away from the hub.
I was wondering if when you tested this brake kit after bedding in the new pads to the rotors. How much more stopping power did you feel over the stock GTR Brakes? Thanks man, just curious what you think! Thanks for the video it was very helpful.
Hey mate love the quality content, just have a question about this brake upgrade... the calipers I’m finding on eBay and Amazon seem to be knock off brembos? Did yours have brembo markings? Cheers
Thank you man. Yeah I have plenty of driving footage, but it's not particularly interesting just cruising down the street lol. I can't do WOT pulls everywhere :)
Looks great! I've been looking all over for a cheap(er) option for a stronger break kit. Do you feel a significant difference from stock with the new kit? Thanks and keep it up!
kinda late question but are the 350z calipers wider than the sumitomo ones? my sumitomos are super close to the rim and im not sure if it will fit. Great Video tho keep it up!
Who built the car? Love the car man. Reason for the question is because i wanna buy one and invest into building the engine but i dont wanna do it myself ill rather send it to a shop
Hey thank you. I built the car. I took the engine out had it machined and assembled at ARfab. Then I put it the rest of the way together and stuff. The whole process is documented on this channel if you wanna check it out.
They've held up good. No issues other than when I removed the calipers recently one of the time-serts had broken when trying to undo the bolt. So I just had to replace it with a new time-sert.
Great content as always :D LOVING the green BBK mean machine. I enjoy the fact that i'm not the only one who does the self-bleed method. I figured it out a day- I had to bleed my brakes on the cefiro and I had no help around. AHAHAHAHA "like a dummy" It happens bro don't worry. We are always learning. RBGANG4LIFE
Thank you Reshaad! Yeah I've used the self bleed method for a long time, but I'm going to invest in a power bleeder now lol. Thank you for the support man!
Ordered both the bolts and serts from the links. Both came saying M12x1.5 but something has changed somewhere. Bolts and serts do not match up anymore unfortunately
That's really weird, I haven't ever seen that happen before. In what way don't they match up? it doesn't thread in at all? Unless Amazon messed up and sent wrong size and the packaging is misslabeled or something. But they are sold by Timesert thru Amazon, and McMaster-Carr is really precise...not sure man. I appreciate you using my links though. Maybe hit up a hardware store and verify a M12x1.5 from there doesn't thread in.
@@Goodezilla I did some messing around in the garage a bit ago, the bolts McMaster sent me are labeled 1.5, but my lug nuts go right on them. Somehow they sent me a whole bag of 1.25 labeled as 1.5. Hit up their customer service, hopefully they fix it
I'm not sure to be honest. Do you know if GTR brakes will bolt up to the GTS-T? If so, I'm sure these would work as well. They just sit a little further out toward the wheel as shown in the video. But no bracket is needed. It bolts to stock location on the GTR.
Put at least 4pot AP Racing, Alcon or 6 pot Brembo/ Endless/ Project Mu for the GTR R32. Yea, I know it's your car. But don't be economical on the GTR. I use AP racing for my R32.
I'm not sure to be honest. Do you know if GTR brakes will bolt up to the GTS-T? If so, I'm sure these would work as well. They just sit a little further out toward the wheel as shown in the video. But no bracket is needed. It bolts to stock location on the GTR.
Bro, no need to start your videos with a disclaimer/ apology. This is YOUR 32, mod it the way that pleases YOU...everyone that is subbed to your channel will appreciate the fact that you are sharing (more than anything) the process of installation and troubleshooting so that it may save us the headaches should we decide to do the same mods. Thanks for taking the time to bring detailed content man....much appreciated
Hey thank you man. I hear ya, I just anticipate the few people that always find negative stuff to say. But I know what you're saying! Thank you for the support and kind words.
I AGREE!!
Super affordable for an upgrade that is very important once you start getting up there in HP. Treasure trove of info in this video and with most of the parts available on Amazon, hope this video convinces some r32 gtr owners out there who otherwise wouldn't have upgraded their brakes - we all need to be safe out there.
Thank you for the support Sunny!
Your definitely the best r32 gtr UA-camr for us regular folk thank again for all information your provide us.
Thank you for the kind words!
Thank you for watching! Links for all the parts I used are in the description...be sure to LIKE and Subscribe! :D
Commented on your IG about brackets for this. Dude over information. This is Gold. Thanks you!
Thank you man. I appreciate the support!
Great video. Glad to see you doing this "budget" BBK. They look great on the GT-R. Keep up the good content.
Thank you!
Been wanting to do big brake kit on my r32 soon, thank you so much for making this video, This will be so helpful for me moving forward. As much as I want to go with ENDLESS or 6Grex, they are just so damn expensive, I could probably buy another RB26 for the price of those kits :( 350z or R34 might be the way to go.
Yeah I'd love some endless brakes too lol
Outstanding! I recently got Z33 Brembos F/R. I've been hesitant on drilling the GK tech knuckles I'm running however, after seeing this I don't see why i would! I flipped through the comments and see its still holding up.
I don't see why i would have any issue using this same method on the set up mentioned above unless there is something I'm missing? liked and subscribed thanks for the video.
The brakes are still doing well, I only did the fronts because I wasn't sure which rotors to use in the rear (drum style ebrake) and I haven't test fit rear calipers from a 350z to see if they bolt up or not.
Why yes... I am an OG member.😉 Not too long ago, I wondered about when you would be doing this mod and I knew it would come in due time. Hey man, nothing wrong with a budget-friendly car mod. I'm sure most of your viewers can appreciate that (especially the ones who have a family, house, etc. to support). That setup looks great, Dustin!💚 Just think, with all the money you saved, you could do another AR build or something.😉 #merica 🇺🇸 Have a great day, brother!
Love that blastoff at the end! 3-2-1-🚀 That thing gets up and goes!💪
Hahaha thank you, Mick! You're definitely an OG! My wife may not be very agreeing with another AR lol. That was my first time launching at this power level... Its... Well... Exciting lol
@@Goodezilla Haha, yes sir. Exciting to watch and I'm sure it's even better to feel those butterflies. And you're right. Treat your wife to something nice instead.😊 Y'all have a good one.
Awesome job not stripping your brake lines. I wasnt so lucky and I ended up stripping every single flared fitting that went into each of my calipers. Luckily the Nismo Heritage program was able to get me all new lines, but there was a lot of waiting. In the future (and what I learned) , a flare nut wrench was much safer for those fragile flare nuts. Nice job man.
Dang, yeah that's what I was trying to avoid from happening. I'm definitely getting a set of flare nut wrenches! Thank you for the support!
A good informative and super easy to understand video.
My question is why?
I may consider doing this, but not sure that there is much difference.
Are the brakes that much bigger than the stock 32 gtr calipers?
Thanks 👍
Hey thank you. The 350z front Brembo calipers and rotors are the same size as the R33 front Brembo calipers and rotors. So I figure, if Nissan deemed it a worth while upgrade over the previous non-Brembo design, then it's probably a good upgrade.
@Goodezilla that's a good point, well made
Was looking at the price of them, and in the UK, they're approx 1 third the price of r33 gtr brembo calipers and discs
Thansk for the info.
My next upgrade 👍
@goodezilla- so I love what you have done for us down to the very details on how to do this. I also have to give you a shout out because I bought exactly everything you listed and about to do this upgrade. Thanks man.
Side note question, I don’t want to just toss my old front brakes. Will I be able to put the old front brakes and use them on my rear ones since they are smaller to start with? I’m trying to save cost. Thanks man.
Thank you for the support! You could put them in the rear with some custom made brackets, but the front to rear bias would be way off. You'd need much bigger brakes in the front than these.
GoodeZilla so to get it straight, I would need a much bigger brake setup in the front to have the old front ones to use in the rear... is it because it’s too powerful to use on the rear end and will not stop properly? Thank for your help in the GTR community brother!
@@CarsAndTan yes that's pretty much it. Without getting some sort of brake bias control, it would most likely just lock the rears up every time you hit the brakes.
GoodeZilla are you planning to upgrade the rear or just leave them as stock?
@@CarsAndTan yes for now, unless I come acrossed a good deal
Actually there are some owners that are crazy on BBKs. Well, maybe not in the U.S. But there are many of them, had a couple of friends in Japan and in U.K. 😂 As for the brakes, we have OEM brembos for the BNR32, the V-Spec ones. They are the same with the BCNR33, but price wise is the same also, it has the "GTR Tax" as well. LOL. Evo calipers are cheaper too, so they are good options, even the Z ones.
Yeah the GTR tax is reason for this upgrade. Same size calipers and rotors for much less $ lol
How much bigger from stock are these Brembos? do you feel the difference when you brake? Great upgrade, simple enough. Thumbs up.
You didn't watch till the end good sir lol. I show the size difference. The new rotors are 296mm over stock 280mm. It's the same as R33 factory Brembo brakes.
The stock size is 296mm x 32mm. Brembos are 324mm x 30mm. R32 GTS-T uses 280mm x 30mm.
Hey, GZ.
I learned so much through your trials and accomplishments. Funny thing, I was looking at a upgrade for my GTR (32) as well, which lead me here! Once again, Brother, Thanks! I would add this tip to my own!!
Two more questions:
- what would you recommend for the rear brakes?
- Are you going to Import Alliance in ATL for March 2020?
Hey man, I'm glad my videos can help you out! For the rear brakes you can always source the actual R33 Skyline brembos..but they are a pretty penny. I've not really looked into the rear setup yet. I'd have to look around at the options, as I don't want to run a dual caliper setup for the ebrake. I'd like to keep the stock drum style ebrake/rotor setup. I am not going to that. That is very far from me, and I work full time.
Hey, GZ
What are your offset on your wheels?
Since the new brakes are 157MM than the Nissans are 149MM.
Thanks
@@11emptymags13 my wheels are 18x10.5 +15
@@Goodezilla Thanks, Brother!!
This is an awesome vid and thanks for the links, just a heads up, the part number cast on my brakes I got from amazon were actually GM corvette (547806) brakes, not Brembos. They may be similar but was a bit odd, not what amazon says they should be, make sure to check your part number if you do this, box from cardone was matching part number but not inside..
Learned pretty much all the calipers getting refurb'd are likely from Brembo even older OEM Part#, but got it sorted with a Brembo stamped one, appreciate the post
What size rim do you have? I’m planning on doing the same thing but I want to know what clearance is needed. Please help, thank you.
Those are 18x10.5 but I also can run my 17x9.5 using a small 3mm spacer. Really just depends on the offset of the wheel.
I'm sure there is a similar kit that utilises evo6 brembo Brakes which are substantially bigger than the standard GTR items.
I might have to do a bit if research and see if these 350 ones are a better option
Great video... keep them coming!!🤙
There are a lot of options out there for these cars. This is just an option. Thank you for the support.
Those look sweet... nice job man
Thank you, Bob!
What is your wheel fitment I have everything but I don’t know the offset so I can have that clearance with the breaks
Hey brother. I just did the Brembo Bif brake kit from Brembo. 6 pot front and 4 rear. A huge improvement. This seems to be a good alternative as mine was close to 6k. Also who you using for the powder coating?
Dang yeah, I wasn't prepared to spend that much. I use Advanced Coating Solutions in Fredericksburg VA.
Very interesting to go big brake :) the green make it pops throught the wheels, you should have a screw on the rotor to make it stay in place and i think you miss it
Thank you for watching. Not all rotors have a screw to keep it in place. The hole on this rotor is actually to help get it off the hub if its rusted on. You screw a bolt into the whole and it pushes it away from the hub.
@@Goodezilla it's very ingenious
I love this, thanks for the info bro. Definitely would love to do this to mine.
Thank you for the support!
Of course bro. Followed you for a long time already just haven’t kept up with the vlogs lately but I’m back to see what’s coming. Keep it up Dustin 🤘🏽
Look into a mighty vac hand pump(they sell em at like advanced and orileys). I used it last time when i upgraded the brakes and rotors on my TDI.
Yeah, I'm going to look into something like that for sure!
It would be cool if the fronts that are being replaced could fit on the back
I was wondering if when you tested this brake kit after bedding in the new pads to the rotors. How much more stopping power did you feel over the stock GTR Brakes? Thanks man, just curious what you think! Thanks for the video it was very helpful.
Another good video. And well worth watching to the end. :)
Thank you man! I like the end too :)
Another great youtuber and car. Keep up the goods. Subd
Thank you!
Hey mate love the quality content, just have a question about this brake upgrade... the calipers I’m finding on eBay and Amazon seem to be knock off brembos? Did yours have brembo markings? Cheers
The ones that I linked in the description are the same ones I used. The Brembo sticker was added after powder coating.
Love this channel. Super helpful even tho I don't own an R32 (yet, right?). Would definitely enjoy more driving tho
Thank you man. Yeah I have plenty of driving footage, but it's not particularly interesting just cruising down the street lol. I can't do WOT pulls everywhere :)
@@Goodezilla Honestly anything R32 makes me giddy. Only dream is to own one. A drive down the street for you is a trip to heaven for me lol.
I am proud of GT-R as a Japanese.
Thank you friend!
Looks great! I've been looking all over for a cheap(er) option for a stronger break kit. Do you feel a significant difference from stock with the new kit? Thanks and keep it up!
I haven't really tested them like that yet. They seem to stop really well though!
GoodeZilla I did this upgrade on my R32 this past weekend and I love it!! Thanks for the great video!
@@chrismayer5810 awesome man! How did it go for you? pretty straight forward? Feel good afterwards?
I'm planning to get a R32 Skyline GTR, any tips I should know?
kinda late question but are the 350z calipers wider than the sumitomo ones? my sumitomos are super close to the rim and im not sure if it will fit. Great Video tho keep it up!
They stick out closer to the wheel face by a couple millimeters. I show a comparison in the video against my wheels, with stock vs 350z Brembos
GoodeZilla thank you so much man!
Who are you using for powder coating and bremboe stickers for outside of calipers?
Advanced Coating Solutions in Fredericksburg, VA.
awesome dude thank you for the vid!
No problemo :) Thank you for watching!
Who built the car? Love the car man. Reason for the question is because i wanna buy one and invest into building the engine but i dont wanna do it myself ill rather send it to a shop
Hey thank you. I built the car. I took the engine out had it machined and assembled at ARfab. Then I put it the rest of the way together and stuff. The whole process is documented on this channel if you wanna check it out.
What are you going to use for the rear? 350z as well. By the way we both know big Mike with the mr-2.
For now sticking with stock. Unless I come across a good deal.
Does this same setup work on a R33 GTST?
Your using time sert m12x1.5 but that is the inside thread of the insert, what about the outside? Is it m14x1.5 ? Thanks
I'm not sure, I used the time-serts in my link of the description.
This upgrade is only for the fronts, correct? Are the 350z rear brakes compatible also?
350z rear rotors are different, they don't use drum style ebrake
@@Goodezilla I see. Is that the only difference? If so, could the skyline e-brake be modified to work with the 350z e brake?
How have the time-serts held up over this time period? Also would this work with the larger 370z brake setup?
They've held up good. No issues other than when I removed the calipers recently one of the time-serts had broken when trying to undo the bolt. So I just had to replace it with a new time-sert.
I'm not sure about the 370 brakes.
Hey Goodezilla, another sweet video. Can you feel the difference with this upgrade? Did you do any before or after testing. Thanks bro.
Thank you, Ninja. Yes I can feel a difference...it's not like having huge 335mm 6 pot brakes...but it does stop better now.
GoodeZilla Thanks. So worth the money?
Great content as always :D
LOVING the green BBK mean machine.
I enjoy the fact that i'm not the only one who does the self-bleed method.
I figured it out a day- I had to bleed my brakes on the cefiro and I had no help around.
AHAHAHAHA "like a dummy" It happens bro don't worry. We are always learning.
RBGANG4LIFE
Thank you Reshaad! Yeah I've used the self bleed method for a long time, but I'm going to invest in a power bleeder now lol. Thank you for the support man!
What did you do with your rear brakes? Brembo or still running stock?
The rears are still stock.
Any idea of the 350z rotor/caliper/pads sizes vs evo9s?
Are you doing the rears as well or do you know if the 350z rears will work?
I don't know what I want for the rear yet. I don't think 350z rears are bolt on.
Ordered both the bolts and serts from the links. Both came saying M12x1.5 but something has changed somewhere. Bolts and serts do not match up anymore unfortunately
That's really weird, I haven't ever seen that happen before. In what way don't they match up? it doesn't thread in at all? Unless Amazon messed up and sent wrong size and the packaging is misslabeled or something. But they are sold by Timesert thru Amazon, and McMaster-Carr is really precise...not sure man. I appreciate you using my links though. Maybe hit up a hardware store and verify a M12x1.5 from there doesn't thread in.
@@Goodezilla I did some messing around in the garage a bit ago, the bolts McMaster sent me are labeled 1.5, but my lug nuts go right on them. Somehow they sent me a whole bag of 1.25 labeled as 1.5. Hit up their customer service, hopefully they fix it
any idea if this will work with the stock 16 rims the r32 GTR came with?
Possible to throw the old fronts into the rear?
I've heard of people doing that...but I'd need much bigger brakes in the front to control the bias.
Does anyone know if this also works on s14?
What about the rear brakes, bremboe as well?
Still the stock brakes in the rear.
Did you put a Brembo sticker after they were powder coated. The link to the calipers has the Brembo logo very small
Yes, those are stickers that were put on after powdercoating.
GoodeZilla I have bbs wheels, is there a way to find out clearance for the calipers before buying ?
@@focusfanatic01 don't know how to measure that for you. I show the before and after clearance on my wheels that you could apply to your wheels.
Does this work for the r32 gtst type m? Is it the same bracket ?
I'm not sure to be honest. Do you know if GTR brakes will bolt up to the GTS-T? If so, I'm sure these would work as well. They just sit a little further out toward the wheel as shown in the video. But no bracket is needed. It bolts to stock location on the GTR.
GoodeZilla I believe so ? I’ll have to check that.
Do you have to get new bolts for the caliper or could you reuse the stock ones
Nvm watched it again and saw where is said they were a different thread pitch
@@johnpitcock5608 yup different bolts
Will this work for hr34?
Put at least 4pot AP Racing, Alcon or 6 pot Brembo/ Endless/ Project Mu for the GTR R32. Yea, I know it's your car. But don't be economical on the GTR.
I use AP racing for my R32.
does this work on the gtst or only on the gtr?
I'm not sure to be honest. Do you know if GTR brakes will bolt up to the GTS-T? If so, I'm sure these would work as well. They just sit a little further out toward the wheel as shown in the video. But no bracket is needed. It bolts to stock location on the GTR.
@@Goodezilla I dont know, I will have to research it
Does it fit the gts 4 ?
good
Thank you for the support
What do you have on the back?
Stock in the rear.
sorry but sumimoto BNR32 isn,t like a brembo ? I don’t think there is a big difference
They are both 4 piston calipers. But the Brembo uses bigger rotors.