Thanks to everyone watching the video! I've been seeing this come up multiple times in the comments and I want to give a reminder that yes, a number of these aren't rip offs so maybe you should watch the video before writing a paragraph 😉😉😉
I understand that you're annoyed but you did choose a clickbait title that was less nuanced than your actual script on purpose and should own that decision. Engagement from people who haven't watched the video boosts it, that's why these clickbait titles are a trend its just an unfortunate side of the platform. Not sure I'd describe most of those comments as 'paragraphs either' but yes I suppose writing paragraphs about stuff you haven't watched is silly. :)
Ripoffs is in quotation, guys, so even with the clickbait title it's pretty clear that the creator of the video is already affirming that "ripoffs" isn't an accurate way to describe these other shows. Even without watching the video. So, no, I wouldn't say these reactions in the comments are completely justified. I get what you all mean but I think the creator has a point too.
I think the reason all the shows get accused of being rip offs are because they’re all clearly magical girl/anime inspired which is clearly what winx is also inspired by
I remember watching transformation compilations on early youtube and it was full of "Sailor Moon ripoff" comments, probably written by still very young users, under anything that was not Sailor Moon. i would argue that Ever After High is not really anime inspired and Regal Academy... is a weird thing that was changed from serious action show to comedy after years of developement hell.
@@Ann-vz8tz Sailor Moon is generally influential though. Calling something 'influenced' or 'derivative' is a value judgement and you're allowed to make value judgements in criticism. It did basically invent the idea that a super hero story could be ultra feminine without being a parody or considering that a joke and pushed the team concept in a way previous Shoujo super hero manga like Princess Knight (or even its direct predecessor Sailor V) hadn't. It wasn't doing anything Captain Marvel didn't do in the 1930s but it also repopularised younger teens as non-side kick superheroes in Japan and probably America as well since Power Pack was about the only time that had been tried again after all the other heroes got aged up. There's a lot of feedback across different country's animation and what you think of as 'anime' inspired or not is mostly just your opinion of anime and has little to do with anything else since most Japanese childrens shows never get subtitled or released abroad. Most people wouldn't call Superman's phone booth spinning costume switch a 'transformation sequence' in spite of the massive American influence on Japanese henshin heroes of which anime characters are just a small subset of and don't know about the Linda Carter Wonder Woman references in Sailor Moon. This is normal since no one has ever watched all media that exists and we all have to start somethere. To be honest a lot of people just use 'magical girl show' as a polite way of saying 'Sailor Moon Ripoff' with how so many female henshin heroes get mislabled as magical girls no matter how more they lean into Kamen Rider, Bubblegum Crisis or mecha musume pinup art for inspiration. You can't talk about Pretty Cure for example without noting that seasons 4 and 5 were a departure from the first three season's attempt to form a more unique franchise identity and a deliberate backwards move into a more Sailor Moon inspired direction. That the same move could be called a Super Sentai vs Kamen Rider move doesn't mean much so again; calling that inspiration or stealing is just a matter of politeness.
and that was the point she was making in her video, many saw them as rip offs because we automatically link similar things together, when really the only similarity is they all fall in a western version of the magical girl genre
@@Evibbles like how Pokémon and Digimon have similar names and both involve monsters but aren't actually rip offs of each other it's just the similar names being linked to them?
I think the WITCH and Winx thing is just a case of parallel thinking, so its unfair to call either of them ripoffs of each other, or that one is better than the other Great video 😭 Especially the segement at the end 🤗
It was just convenience, I'm sure; if I recall correctly, when Disney sued Iginio, he showed production for Winx Club began before W.I.T.C.H. came out (which means no one copied the other; just two similar-ish) ideas at the same time.
Like you said, we can easily argue that winx club is a ripoff of magical girl animes if we’re going down the originality route. Originality is a weak argument anyway, its too late in human history to look for anything original anymore. To any creatives out there, don’t be discouraged by conversations like this
Didn't W.I.T.C.H. exist in America in book form first . and at least one of these was also made by Igenio Straffi. That's like saying because Creamy Mami exists then Sailor Moon, the more known Magical girl anime and every other magical girl anime, shouldn't.
I don't agree with her but calling winx club a ripoff of sailor moon is just ridiculous when the creator has stated many times that the show was just inspired by it.
@Arealgenwunner Sailor Moon is basically nothing like Cutie Honey which only got retooled to be more magical girl like in a post Sailor Moon reboot. Cutie Honey was already a ripoff of a male superhero called Rainbowman. The original Sailor V manga was a mix of Sukeban Denka, Minky Momo and Wonder Woman (the live action tv version) its just American anime nerds who deny American influence on manga that play up Naoko having also acknowledged Cutie Honey. Toei animation then mixed Sailor V with Super Sentai and worked with Naoko to make Sailor Moon.
Before anyone gets angry in the comments, just knows she's not calling these shows ripoffs, just judging whether they are or not. And she decides that they are not ripoffs
lil'correction, the italian comic scene is pretty wide, the specific "for teenage girl" part of it is relatively small (and magical/tokusatsu inspired used to be even rarer, due to italy consistent habit of importing the mangas straight) so a runaway IP and a disney-backed one in the setting were fine dining for the fan of the genre, and the shows only added to that
Also most of all the Angel's friends English voice actors have the 4 kids winx club voice actors. This isnt just raf and mikki. Gas, sulfus, actually everyone has a 4 kids voice actor from winx club.
some of these comments aint it;;; If I see one more person claim that Sailor Mon started the magical girl genre I'm getting heartburn I get where the sentiment is coming from but its still wildly inaccurate, it's like saying Persona 3 started the Persona series. Not to mention the fact that Sailor Moon has quite a lot more in common with super sentai shows like Power Rangers or Kamen Rider. Sometimes shows/franchises will have tropes in common and that's fine. Tropes are tools for stories after all.
@@Timepilot94 not to mention magical girls started out as witches, some shows being inspired by Bewitched, like Sally the Witch that you mentioned. I'm just so annoyed at some comments cause like...imagine someone saying Naruto started shounen or something.
I used to love both witch and Winx club. All of my cousins who were girls loved both witch and Winx club too. It was very surprising to me that there was fighting between the fandoms.
Why is Witch in the miniature??? That's kinda offensive, it was my fav show back then and it's its own thing. I think it was a case of converging evolution in media. Similar to Pokémon and Digimon (animes), they came in the same time but each one had different intentions and concepts behind and people just linked them together. Pokémon focuses in combat and episodic series, Digimon has a sci-fi ambient, the creatures talk and aren't captured (they were trying to do a tamagotchi for "boys") and the show is more linear. The only thing they have in common is weird animals that evolve (even each evolution system is different in both) and fight. Witch and Winx are magical girls
about angel’s friends- i think it gets way less attention than it deserves! yes it has a lot of flaws but the end of season plot twist, limbo trapped lady shipping the mcs (for evil reasons ofc), and simple episodes about the angel vs devil shenanigans were actually pretty riveting! i’ve seen barely any discussion of it sadly :( the whole series is even free on youtube!
Animation for girls or not, as a man, I can safely say Winx is fun as hell to rewatch. Sure, there's some dub problems, there's some funky animation, some plot holes. But I always come back to this show and I can never overstate how iconic all the Winx are to me, from seasons 1-3 respectively (considering I only watched up to season 4 and never really started season 5). I know it's the safest choice ever, but Bloom is so goddamn cool. I wish the new reboot will be good enough to boost the brand.
Hey, Usasana, I'm keeping this really short, the reason Mattel ended EAH was because Disney cancelled a major contract with them over the EAH/Descendants debacle, even though Mattel didn't have anything in their contracts preventing them from making EAH. Disney could take any potential monetary fallout from ending the contracts, but they hurt Mattel by ending the longstanding contracts and going with Hasboro (iirc, it was hasboro they swapped to for the specific thing) the descendants dolls were also cheaper made while EAH was full BJD so they really hit mattel in the wallet with that. They could not afford to fight disney about this.
idk how it happened but everytime I see angel’s friends somewhere in the back of my mind pops out a memory that I’ve watched every episode of it yet I dont remember watching it…anyways…youre so right, Im almost 17 and Ive always liked watching magical girls shows since I was literally born and if I saw ANY show when I was a kid with magical girls, I would base my personality of it for like 2 weeks until I found another show…liking only one would be so boring so why like only one when you can like every :P ? but ngl winx will be forever my #1 (maybe also cuz it was my first magical girls show and its just so comforting to me)
me and my sisters found world of winx first , and thought it was the main show , till like a year later when we tried to find it and all that came up was winx club . so for a while we thought winx club was the new ripoff of world of winx .
OMG i loved angel friends it was so good I don’t quite remember since I watched it and winx in my childhood but I think I watched it before winx and definitely liked it more
Lolirock is literally different story with a different story plot, it has nothing to do with fairies. But it does look like a "rip off" because they are both magical and they both in a band together
Its not the ripoffs its style , aesthetic and the overall designs that’s unappealing heck even the animations gives me shudders and roll of the uncanny hill .
No offense but this video should have focused on either reviewing or a deepdive into the western side of the magical girl genre since all of these are counted as such nstead of comparing who is the "ripoff" of a western magical girl show.
Hi, Italian Artist here ✌🏼 I had studied animation and comics, especially with people that had work in this tipe of animation and…well, one of the things that I can say is that Winx it’s heavily inspired by “W.I.T.C.H.”. It doesn’t make it a rip-off, because Winx has it’s own tropes and characteristics and, obviously, they are all inspired by the same tipe of cartoon
Tysm for answering❤ however, it's not it, I think it's something winx related because I heard it while playing that one hexagon puzzle flash winx game online... I found it recently, but the music was replaced with a kpop song, which was weird Thank you anyway ❤❤❤@@lara_spithfire
And about regal academy and ever after high the one who says regal academy is a rip off ever after high must do his research because regal academy was pland before ever after high as dark comedy called twisted fairytales in 2009 but they change it because it was so dark for children to watch
I love W.I.T.C.H. and Winxs Club. But I never saw Angel Friends, but it looks good, so I will go check that out, but I did see Lolirock and I love that show. I saw Ever After High, Regal Academy and. Descendants but they all didn't catch my interest.
in my opinion, the only shows that come close to being Winx Club level, are Loli Rock and Ever After High, the others are always too cheaply made to me in a way. Disney was threatened by Winx Club. However W.I.T.C.H. never used anything the make itself memorable it was duel it has a good storyline but no color theory, it was dark and gloomy it felt like fate before fate.
But they end up kinda the same and they at some point in time even go in to the other show like u can see some people or I guess monsters in ever after high and the same in monster high one of the characters even goes to both the schools sorry for no punctuation I don't know where to put them
@@Natalielovescats No, the storylines don't even match up they are both runed my mattle, Monster high is about not being afraid to be your true self , Ever after high is about not following your ancestors foot step and becoming your own person. Yes, they have simiarities but the art work, the writing and the fashoins, are every diffent. If any the only seirse that come close to ever after high is disney dencents oddly enough. When monster high and ever after stay in their own lanes they have a good way of combaining the to series once in while.
I don't know if it is just a girl thing? I remember a boy named Ben in my school was very adamant that kids could only like Pokemon or Digimon, but not both! It was silly and I did enjoy both, same with WITCH and Winx Club!
i dont understand the "transformations" part as copied from winx club. Like legit every magical girl series has transformations and if any of them might have stolen it from winx , then they have stolen it form sailor moon or whatever anime xD Some people just wanna shade. im glad how you pointed out its pretty ridiculous
Cardcaptor Sakura doesn't have transformations and Sailor Moon is mostly based on older American super heroes which also have them yet nobody accuses Max Steel of ripping off anime for some reason. Its not even a girl media thing since stuff gets accused of ripping off Pokemon far more than stuff gets accused of ripping off Sailor Moon.
because in the early 2000s when all these shows were airing none of us really knew about anime aside from a handful that made it worldwide, so we didn't know that magical girl was its own genre
@@Evibbles Mahou Shoujo is more of a genre in the sense that Westerns are a genre than how say Murder Mystery is a genre and while European shows like Winx Club and W.I.T.C.H. count there are plenty of Japanese shows like Mai Hime, Symphogear and Kill La Kill which get included incorrectly and ones like Little Witch Academia that get excluded incorrectly. Sailor Moon has transformations because its a Sentai show not because its a Magical Girl one. Its the makeup and dress up theme to the transformations that make them Magical Girl rather than regular Japanese Henshin Hero ones.
@@AC-dk4fp yes but my point is that you can't say one show is copying another show based purely on its most basic premise (in this case Magical Girl) because if that's the only similarities it shares then they are still completely separate shows. Regal Academy and Ever After High are often compared because both stripped to the bare bones are about a highschool of the descendants of fairytale characters, but you look any deeper and they aren't at all similar
@@Evibbles Two shows can be thematically similar on a deep level while having different character arcs and story structures. There's a difference between a complete copy and a modified copy. Taking simple facts about borrowed elements and sources as some kind of personal insult to the fandom can be as immature as insulting things on purpose. Intertextuality is key to how genres work you can't just use genre to excuse unoriginality. Copying should be a neutral issue.
Am I the only one who grew up with both W.I.T.C.H. and Winx Club and never considered them a rip-off of one another? The only similarity they had was about the group being magical girls and I was around 7 years old when I tought so.
Same I just recently bought the DVD’s for W.I.T.C.H. Season 1 I did have volume 1 but wanted all of them managed to find them and Winx club season 1 and 2 on dvd I grew up and loved these DVD’s my originals got stolen so had to find them again I mean I’m 25 and I still watch them they are like a life line to me.
I’m quite sure the reason EAH ended was because at the time Mattel had a deal with Disney to produce toys for them. But when Mattel came up with EAH, they felt like it’s a stab in the back because *only the big mouse company can make fairy tale media and merchandise!!!!* which is why they moved onto creating Descendants. Then internal drama in between, Mattel was pulled from producing toys and they went on to collaborate with Jakks Pacific. Disney and Mattel seem to have reconciled in recent years tho.
You do realize that EAH isn’t base on disney fairytale but brother Grimm who written original fairytales such as Snow White, Sleeping Beauty etc and other authors such as Hans Christian Andersen who wrote little mermaid until Disney used their stories and changed it to kid friendly version so Disney is sensitive over simple things heck Disney copied so many things such as a anime called Kimba the white lion that was released back in the 60s guess what Disney copied them and honestly they have no right to feel betrayed what Mattel did tbh
@@lofelife9143 yeah I’m aware of it. Unfortunately fairy tales are now mostly associated with DisKnee. True they copied those classic fairy tales and put their own kid friendly twist to it, but to the big mouse company, it’s more of “mine is better lol” instead of who did it first.
@@christopher9306 Thats true and they’re stupid thinking like that and Mattel should continue making EAH series cause its way better then what DisKnee does 😂
@@lofelife9143unfortunately it’s about marketing and optics. It seems like Mattel felt that they couldn’t complete with Disney and would lose money so they pulled the dolls before that could happen
I agree with your point about people loving certain girl media and bashing the other, me and my sis always talk about it too For me I’m obsessed with barbie while she is obsessed with bratz we still dont understand why barbie and bratz fans still fighting like you can enjoy the other media and still loving your fav franchise Also other people still calling girl media(especially if its magical show) a rip off sailormoon or winx or precure These accusations are getting old and annoying
I rarely see people say "x is a precure rip-off", more so "glitter force" actually being said as "oh precure ripped off glitter force" I think balala is the only show that gets compared like that
@@Y0sh1novaNothing gets called a PreCure rip off because latter seasons are mostly just remixes of older ones and the PreCure grognards are all complaining about season X being not enough like Heartcatch and that's why Aikatsu is more popular or whatever its been in the last ten years I don't keep up. Guess there's an upside to people thinking there haven't been children's cartoons since Madoka Magica episode 3 or whatever nonsense anime news sites and lazy youtubers say.
And that’s the thing: I don’t wanna pick! Each doll line/girl targeted show taught me a lesson or entertained me one way or another, why should I have to pick?
I have grown up with original intro, not 4Kids ver., so the OG remains the best for me. The melody is inspirational, cheerful and also a bit melancholic.
I am so glad that I never forced myself into a box by choosing which show or brand I liked better. I like frilly girl things like Winx and Barbie portray, but I also like W.I.T.C.H and Bratz grittier and y2k style. But I am all about being dynamic and switching up my style constantly.😂😂
Witch (the comic) was being developed circa late 1995, so it feels weird to laud it as a ripoff. A lot of people left disney italia to work at Rainbow so there definitely was a ping ponging effect of ideas happening during both shows development. (This is to say, if anyone's a ripoff it would be Winx, and there's lots of proof of this) also the lawsuit was based on the logos being similar
And the original authors posted some very old concept arts for WITCH on their instagram pages... Winx is definitely younger than WITCH, even if it displease the fans.
@Arealgenwunner I liked WITCH precisely because it looked nothing like Winx, it appeared to a different audience that I happened to be a part of. Though I will admit, the Trix and Dark Bloom from the few episodes my kindergarten friend made me watch back then were fire.
@andyscdcollection415 Sounds like that you're trying to make witch look like that its completely original, ignoring the fact that witch was inspired by sailor moon just like winx.
Winx cartoon has entered development before witch cartoon. the lawsuit wasn't just for the logo but it was for the whole show looking similar to witch, which Disney lost because Rainbow provided receipts of the show being made before Disney made the cartoon adaptation of witch.
Actually W.I.T.C.H. Is not a copycat of the Winx because they came out at the same time 2004. However W.I.T.C.H. Was supposed to air in 2003 but there was too many PG13 scenes that it took a full year to re-edit the show
For real the only thing that screamed "magical girl" to me in the show was the group's transformation, and even then it was hardly girly despite them resembling faeries in their "witch" forms.
@@josheydubsIt depends though, biblically accurate angels all look different because of their categories. The ones we’re used to seeing in media are accurate, but are of a lower rank, it’s once you get to the higher ranks that you start seeing the freaky stuff. Although, imagine how cool it could be if they could slide back and forth between the conventional and non-conventional look if they ever want to intimidate someone.
I remember the time of W.I.T.C.H. and Winx rivarly. I don't know how much rivarly had been doing now but I remember several blogs or fanfics where these two teams were fighting against each other. Specifically one blog where it was told not only by text but also gifs which enhanced the experience. I grew up with both. W.I.T.C.H. was earlier in my childhood and even had these comic magazines. While winx I stumbled upon once in vacation and years later before teenhood went into winx as animated W.I.T.C.H. ended with second season and no idea what happened. But later learned it got at least completed in the comics. I had dvds of angels friends after I stopped watching winx and then get into Lolirock. Learning about the overall MAgical girl genre. Got into precure and pretty much... I'm chill with all the shows you presented here. Maybe except ladybug but that's different hellhole.
I didn't know the beef between Winx and W.I.T.C.H. was that bad, i loved both shows a lot tbh because i was obsessed with fairies and magical girls. And while i was very young when Winx started, WITCH was during the beggining of my teenage years so it was a refreshing slightly more mature show that still appealed to my child brain. But i did know that there was this weird stugma that Winx was fir preppy girly girls and WITCH was for tomboy edgy girls. It was a little weird. But i didnt know disney trued to kill winx for like no reason, but I shouldn't be surprised...
I remember catching glimpses of WITCH covers in passing in the 2000s, and at the time I genuinely thought that it could be at least tangentially related to Winx Club. I literally knew nothing else about it other that it looked like Winx Club. And yes, I'm sick and tired of everyone claiming that LoliRock is a shameless Winx Club ripoff. And I grew up with both LoliRock and Winx Club so I know what I'm talking about.
I watched Lolirock monster high ever after high regal academy and winx club and probably lots of other ones and I loved them all but not the newer ones not sure about the newer Lolirock and other things like that tho because I did not know they were making new episodes
Angel friends is so understated despite the horrible dub the plot and character designs are pretty good! (Sulfus was one of my childhood crushes LMAO And I'm pretty sure this show was why I'm obsessed with the enemies to lovers trope till this day )
witch was before winx club I remeber being like 6-10 buying comics. And yea they had carttoon long after comics but still... you rather agure that was otherwise if comes to witch and winx club (btw. I like both i just seying witch wast starting off magicial girl thingy in europe)
I always preferred WC to W.I.T.C.H., and I wonder what would've happened if Disney never sued Iginio and worked with him the later seasons instead of Nick (or at least the upcoming reboot).
The fandom war never ends🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 The drama between Winx Club and W. I T.C.H First of all the protagonists are redheads, both came out in 2004, both magical girl shows✨🌟 (Sam is a redhead from Totally Spies and Kim from Kim Possible is a redhead to). As a Winx fangirl I have a feeling that Netflix messed with the wrong magical girl for a live action Adaptation...... FATE: THE WINX SAGA!!!! MORE LIKE WINGLESS FAIRY, DARK ACADEMIA SAGA 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😠😡😡😡😡😡
Not everything needs to be a not to be a gritty reboot the SpongeBob SquarePants and wix Unite doing the Cyclops in Street Fighter Ryu handshake doing the X-Men versus Street Fighter handshake
Not everything needs to be a not to be a gritty reboot the SpongeBob SquarePants and wix Unite doing the Cyclops in Street Fighter Ryu handshake doing the X-Men versus Street Fighter handshake
When you mention how companies try to pit girls and women against each other with their products my mind was like “Jokes on them, I never fell for it. I just buy whatever I want and it’s everything or close to it at least.”. Like I’m proud to say that I am a Winx and W.I.T.C.H. fan.
@Timepilot94 Though, it's a shame that neither the show nor the comics actually got finished. They both finished on a cliffhanger, and I never understood why.
On the topic of Winx X W.I.T.C.H., I think both shows are equally good. I was a huge W.I.T.C.H. fan on my ealry childhood (I was 5 when the show came out) and later on, Winx was booming here in Portugal, and I fell in love with it as well. Both show kinda overlaps on their premises, but they're visually so different. Winx is so bright and colorful, which was very appealing for me growing up, while W.I.T.C.H. is more gloomy and "edgy" (hate that word lol), which is something that I prefer more nowadays being almost 25 years old. Both are great shows with awesome world-building and character development
W.I.T.C.H. wasn't a copy at all! It was very different, I wouldn't even call it a copy of Avatar the last Airbender! And speaking of that I wouldn't mind some really well cast, well written and most importantly wokeness free Netflix live action series of W.I.T.C.H.!
Does “wokeness free” mean LGBT free? then yeah I agree that pretty much everything should be LGBT free now if you’re basically whining about the whole harmless POC representation thing then idk
@@noorbohamad5796 that POC ''representation'' is done on the basis of white characters and white cultures! I am West Asian myself and I HATE THAT! We see vikings are being portrayed by black actors for heavens sake, how can ANYONE be ok with that and then cmplain about whitewashing?
Yup none of them are the same well not really both are all or almost all girls and have magic and things like that but other then that nothing is the same exact thing enough to make it a rip off
@@Natalielovescats yeah but with ever after high it’s just a story about different fairy tales kids and their destiny and how the evil queen child want to changes hers for the better. Lolirock is about a three young girl who have to find gems (forgot what they was called) while fighting off the two twins who make different monsters every time and they need those gem stones to repair the crown and defeat what his name so they can save their homeland and parents So I don’t understand how people can compare them and be like “yep that’s a rip off” like winx club is just about them living in fairy school while fighting off the revival school now world off winx is them pretending to be humans while being on a tv show so they can find these different people who are in danger to save them before it’s too late
@@Moonlight_Garden199 I never said they were the same I said the only thing that’s the same is there is girls in both or all and they have magic and are almost always fighting for something
i agree that they aren't rip offs but winx's impact is too often downplayed. it influenced a lot of stuff that came after it especially in barbie and mlp
@@bb-nq9hoand ever after high because both are the same but also different they also have one character in both shows and u can see the other show in the other one u can see monster high in ever after high and the other way around
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Thanks to everyone watching the video! I've been seeing this come up multiple times in the comments and I want to give a reminder that yes, a number of these aren't rip offs so maybe you should watch the video before writing a paragraph 😉😉😉
I understand that you're annoyed but you did choose a clickbait title that was less nuanced than your actual script on purpose and should own that decision.
Engagement from people who haven't watched the video boosts it, that's why these clickbait titles are a trend its just an unfortunate side of the platform.
Not sure I'd describe most of those comments as 'paragraphs either' but yes I suppose writing paragraphs about stuff you haven't watched is silly. :)
W.i.t.c.h comic release started 2001 and Winx club started 2004. So who is the ripoff here?
You still chose a clickbait title, with the characters placed in specific positions
Ripoffs is in quotation, guys, so even with the clickbait title it's pretty clear that the creator of the video is already affirming that "ripoffs" isn't an accurate way to describe these other shows. Even without watching the video. So, no, I wouldn't say these reactions in the comments are completely justified. I get what you all mean but I think the creator has a point too.
@@shaniceisfalling Headline effect is real though.
I think the reason all the shows get accused of being rip offs are because they’re all clearly magical girl/anime inspired which is clearly what winx is also inspired by
Also sorry if this is worded weird auto correct always does me wrong
I remember watching transformation compilations on early youtube and it was full of "Sailor Moon ripoff" comments, probably written by still very young users, under anything that was not Sailor Moon.
i would argue that Ever After High is not really anime inspired and Regal Academy... is a weird thing that was changed from serious action show to comedy after years of developement hell.
@@Ann-vz8tz it sad seeing amazing shows be called rip off just because they have similar tropes
@@Ann-vz8tz Sailor Moon is generally influential though. Calling something 'influenced' or 'derivative' is a value judgement and you're allowed to make value judgements in criticism. It did basically invent the idea that a super hero story could be ultra feminine without being a parody or considering that a joke and pushed the team concept in a way previous Shoujo super hero manga like Princess Knight (or even its direct predecessor Sailor V) hadn't. It wasn't doing anything Captain Marvel didn't do in the 1930s but it also repopularised younger teens as non-side kick superheroes in Japan and probably America as well since Power Pack was about the only time that had been tried again after all the other heroes got aged up.
There's a lot of feedback across different country's animation and what you think of as 'anime' inspired or not is mostly just your opinion of anime and has little to do with anything else since most Japanese childrens shows never get subtitled or released abroad. Most people wouldn't call Superman's phone booth spinning costume switch a 'transformation sequence' in spite of the massive American influence on Japanese henshin heroes of which anime characters are just a small subset of and don't know about the Linda Carter Wonder Woman references in Sailor Moon. This is normal since no one has ever watched all media that exists and we all have to start somethere.
To be honest a lot of people just use 'magical girl show' as a polite way of saying 'Sailor Moon Ripoff' with how so many female henshin heroes get mislabled as magical girls no matter how more they lean into Kamen Rider, Bubblegum Crisis or mecha musume pinup art for inspiration.
You can't talk about Pretty Cure for example without noting that seasons 4 and 5 were a departure from the first three season's attempt to form a more unique franchise identity and a deliberate backwards move into a more Sailor Moon inspired direction. That the same move could be called a Super Sentai vs Kamen Rider move doesn't mean much so again; calling that inspiration or stealing is just a matter of politeness.
@@AC-dk4fpcalling something plagiarism and correctly stating that inspiration is taken are very much not the same thing
Lolirock is nowhere near a ripoff a WINX, but is most definitely a “Sailor-Moon-at-home” western anime cartoon.
Yeah
Lolirock I believe was made in France or is French? Don't remember, my memory be a little funky rn.
@@PasteilloTheCat it's french canadian it was made by the same company that made totally spies
@@aradcohen4309 ah I was partial right then! Thank you for the correction. :]
@@PasteilloTheCat no problem
Tbh never thought of any of these as "rip-off", for me they were just cartoon with similar theme
Agreed
Same here
and that was the point she was making in her video, many saw them as rip offs because we automatically link similar things together, when really the only similarity is they all fall in a western version of the magical girl genre
@@Evibbles I noticed that too and recognized those points too.
@@Evibbles like how Pokémon and Digimon have similar names and both involve monsters but aren't actually rip offs of each other it's just the similar names being linked to them?
lolirock,W.I.T.CH and winx club are not rip offs
Yea w.i.t.c.h came way before Winx club came
@@Andrewkenyagah26234it didn't winx was a thing since 1999 and witch was a thing since 2001
Not true winx club came before w.i.t.c.h
If we’re talking about the comics, W.I.T.C.H. came before winx club. If we’re talking about the cartoon, Winx Club came out a year before W.I.T.C.H..
@@sakunaruful 2 years actually
I think the WITCH and Winx thing is just a case of parallel thinking, so its unfair to call either of them ripoffs of each other, or that one is better than the other
Great video 😭 Especially the segement at the end 🤗
It was just convenience, I'm sure; if I recall correctly, when Disney sued Iginio, he showed production for Winx Club began before W.I.T.C.H. came out (which means no one copied the other; just two similar-ish) ideas at the same time.
Makes sense now
Finally,people accept the fact neither are knock-offs!(I haven't seen this kind of people since I entered the W.i.t.c.h fandom!)
True! That's why none of them are rip-offs
I like them both and no one can change my opinion
Yesterday I binged watched Equestria Girls. And now I understand why I’m obsessed with magical girls
If we gonna go down this road, Winx club is also a rip off of Sailor Moon. (Basically every magical girl/fairy/female warrior show)
Yup
"Basically every magical girl/fairy/female warrior show"
Ah yes lets forget that magical girl is a genre.
Like you said, we can easily argue that winx club is a ripoff of magical girl animes if we’re going down the originality route. Originality is a weak argument anyway, its too late in human history to look for anything original anymore. To any creatives out there, don’t be discouraged by conversations like this
Didn't W.I.T.C.H. exist in America in book form first . and at least one of these was also made by Igenio Straffi. That's like saying because Creamy Mami exists then Sailor Moon, the more known Magical girl anime and every other magical girl anime, shouldn't.
Yes it did
Calling anything a winx club ripoff is a bit strong when winx club is already a sailor moon ripoff 😂
I don't agree with her but calling winx club a ripoff of sailor moon is just ridiculous when the creator has stated many times that the show was just inspired by it.
@Arealgenwunner Sailor Moon is basically nothing like Cutie Honey which only got retooled to be more magical girl like in a post Sailor Moon reboot. Cutie Honey was already a ripoff of a male superhero called Rainbowman.
The original Sailor V manga was a mix of Sukeban Denka, Minky Momo and Wonder Woman (the live action tv version) its just American anime nerds who deny American influence on manga that play up Naoko having also acknowledged Cutie Honey. Toei animation then mixed Sailor V with Super Sentai and worked with Naoko to make Sailor Moon.
Fun fact: lolirock’s team is considering a season 3 to finish up the series though we won’t know til atleast 2025 on full confirmation
Lolirock season three was officially confirmed not too long ago
I know ! I’m so exited !!! ❣️❣️❣️ I love lolirock even after all these years 😁😁
:0 so there's going to be new episodes yasssssssssssssssssss
The fact that you know both Precure and Pretty Rhythm makes you amazing.
These shows are animated beautifully.
Before anyone gets angry in the comments, just knows she's not calling these shows ripoffs, just judging whether they are or not.
And she decides that they are not ripoffs
lil'correction, the italian comic scene is pretty wide, the specific "for teenage girl" part of it is relatively small (and magical/tokusatsu inspired used to be even rarer, due to italy consistent habit of importing the mangas straight) so a runaway IP and a disney-backed one in the setting were fine dining for the fan of the genre, and the shows only added to that
Witch starter as an comica in 2001 and IT was older than Winx
Yeah sure but winx started development in 1999.
But Witch development I thingk started earlier.@@lj3830
@@lj3830 If the W.I.T.C.H comics were RELEASED in 2001, it is logical that they began to be developed even earlier than Winx.
Also most of all the Angel's friends English voice actors have the 4 kids winx club voice actors. This isnt just raf and mikki. Gas, sulfus, actually everyone has a 4 kids voice actor from winx club.
Same with the hebrew dub most of the voice actors in angel's friends also worked on winx
True.
some of these comments aint it;;;
If I see one more person claim that Sailor Mon started the magical girl genre I'm getting heartburn
I get where the sentiment is coming from but its still wildly inaccurate, it's like saying Persona 3 started the Persona series.
Not to mention the fact that Sailor Moon has quite a lot more in common with super sentai shows like Power Rangers or Kamen Rider. Sometimes shows/franchises will have tropes in common and that's fine. Tropes are tools for stories after all.
@@Timepilot94 not to mention magical girls started out as witches, some shows being inspired by Bewitched, like Sally the Witch that you mentioned. I'm just so annoyed at some comments cause like...imagine someone saying Naruto started shounen or something.
I used to love both witch and Winx club. All of my cousins who were girls loved both witch and Winx club too. It was very surprising to me that there was fighting between the fandoms.
Why is Witch in the miniature??? That's kinda offensive, it was my fav show back then and it's its own thing.
I think it was a case of converging evolution in media. Similar to Pokémon and Digimon (animes), they came in the same time but each one had different intentions and concepts behind and people just linked them together. Pokémon focuses in combat and episodic series, Digimon has a sci-fi ambient, the creatures talk and aren't captured (they were trying to do a tamagotchi for "boys") and the show is more linear.
The only thing they have in common is weird animals that evolve (even each evolution system is different in both) and fight.
Witch and Winx are magical girls
“winx ripoff” but it’s really just another magical girl show
witch was more accessible to me as a child so
witch has my heart til the end
Facts w.i.t.c.h was honestly better imo
@@rentacop7038story telling wise yeah.
about angel’s friends- i think it gets way less attention than it deserves! yes it has a lot of flaws but the end of season plot twist, limbo trapped lady shipping the mcs (for evil reasons ofc), and simple episodes about the angel vs devil shenanigans were actually pretty riveting! i’ve seen barely any discussion of it sadly :( the whole series is even free on youtube!
Didnt Witch came before Wnx?
i loved every single one of these as a kid. never realised they were seen as rip offs of one another before this.
w.i.t.c.h. being the best of the rest of the flops mentioned i know thats right
Animation for girls or not, as a man, I can safely say Winx is fun as hell to rewatch. Sure, there's some dub problems, there's some funky animation, some plot holes. But I always come back to this show and I can never overstate how iconic all the Winx are to me, from seasons 1-3 respectively (considering I only watched up to season 4 and never really started season 5).
I know it's the safest choice ever, but Bloom is so goddamn cool. I wish the new reboot will be good enough to boost the brand.
Hey, Usasana, I'm keeping this really short, the reason Mattel ended EAH was because Disney cancelled a major contract with them over the EAH/Descendants debacle, even though Mattel didn't have anything in their contracts preventing them from making EAH. Disney could take any potential monetary fallout from ending the contracts, but they hurt Mattel by ending the longstanding contracts and going with Hasboro (iirc, it was hasboro they swapped to for the specific thing) the descendants dolls were also cheaper made while EAH was full BJD so they really hit mattel in the wallet with that. They could not afford to fight disney about this.
idk how it happened but everytime I see angel’s friends somewhere in the back of my mind pops out a memory that I’ve watched every episode of it yet I dont remember watching it…anyways…youre so right, Im almost 17 and Ive always liked watching magical girls shows since I was literally born and if I saw ANY show when I was a kid with magical girls, I would base my personality of it for like 2 weeks until I found another show…liking only one would be so boring so why like only one when you can like every :P ? but ngl winx will be forever my #1 (maybe also cuz it was my first magical girls show and its just so comforting to me)
me and my sisters found world of winx first , and thought it was the main show , till like a year later when we tried to find it and all that came up was winx club . so for a while we thought winx club was the new ripoff of world of winx .
OMG i loved angel friends it was so good I don’t quite remember since I watched it and winx in my childhood but I think I watched it before winx and definitely liked it more
You gotta be kidding me. W.I.T.C.H. was first as a comic book 😂
Lolirock is literally different story with a different story plot, it has nothing to do with fairies. But it does look like a "rip off" because they are both magical and they both in a band together
watching the second season of angel friends with not knowledge of the show felt like a fever dream
HOLY CRAP I REMEMBER BEING 6 AND WATCHING LOLIROCK ON MY MOM'S COMPUTER SO THAT'S WHAT THAT MEMORY WAS OMG
more than rip-offs, i see a trend of mighty girls shows...
That Team Rocket part though 😂😂
Its not the ripoffs its style , aesthetic and the overall designs that’s unappealing heck even the animations gives me shudders and roll of the uncanny hill .
No offense but this video should have focused on either reviewing or a deepdive into the western side of the magical girl genre since all of these are counted as such nstead of comparing who is the "ripoff" of a western magical girl show.
I love how I have watched every tv series mentioned (watch pretty rhythm!)
Hi, Italian Artist here ✌🏼 I had studied animation and comics, especially with people that had work in this tipe of animation and…well, one of the things that I can say is that Winx it’s heavily inspired by “W.I.T.C.H.”. It doesn’t make it a rip-off, because Winx has it’s own tropes and characteristics and, obviously, they are all inspired by the same tipe of cartoon
I like all of these shows and I think they are not ripoffs
4:00 what is the name of the song?
It sounded like the beginning of Lolirock’s BFF song
Except, an instrumental cover version maybe
Tysm for answering❤ however, it's not it, I think it's something winx related because I heard it while playing that one hexagon puzzle flash winx game online... I found it recently, but the music was replaced with a kpop song, which was weird
Thank you anyway ❤❤❤@@lara_spithfire
I grew up with both W.I.T.C.H and Winx Club and I love them both
i always wanted to watch regal academy but i never knew where to this day 😭
Netflix I watch it on Netflix not sure if it is still on it tho
i watched both winx and w.i.t.c.h. and loved them both
Angel friends cabiria shares musa 4kids voice actress
And about regal academy and ever after high the one who says regal academy is a rip off ever after high must do his research because regal academy was pland before ever after high as dark comedy called twisted fairytales in 2009 but they change it because it was so dark for children to watch
I love W.I.T.C.H. and Winxs Club. But I never saw Angel Friends, but it looks good, so I will go check that out, but I did see Lolirock and I love that show. I saw Ever After High, Regal Academy and. Descendants but they all didn't catch my interest.
Agree with everything you said
The lawsuit is stupid and White Musa is so so cursed
witch came out as a comic way before winx club though.
Angels friends is lowk a rip off but I love both winx still solos tho
I remember watching Winx club Saturday morning on CW 4kids
Winx copied sailor Moon soo..
Yeah and Winx even had a talking cat that followed Bloom around named Luna too
Winx is inspired by Sailor moon and slayers
@@Emily-cw7tj bunny named Kiko,but yeah
@Arealgenwunner yep
í didn't know that w.i.t.c.h had a show i have ever only heard of the books
in my opinion, the only shows that come close to being Winx Club level, are Loli Rock and Ever After High, the others are always too cheaply made to me in a way. Disney was threatened by Winx Club. However W.I.T.C.H. never used anything the make itself memorable it was duel it has a good storyline but no color theory, it was dark and gloomy it felt like fate before fate.
Ever after high was a rip off of monster high or the other way around
But they end up kinda the same and they at some point in time even go in to the other show like u can see some people or I guess monsters in ever after high and the same in monster high one of the characters even goes to both the schools sorry for no punctuation I don't know where to put them
@@Natalielovescats No, the storylines don't even match up they are both runed my mattle, Monster high is about not being afraid to be your true self , Ever after high is about not following your ancestors foot step and becoming your own person. Yes, they have simiarities but the art work, the writing and the fashoins, are every diffent. If any the only seirse that come close to ever after high is disney dencents oddly enough. When monster high and ever after stay in their own lanes they have a good way of combaining the to series once in while.
@@Star20048 I know that’s why I said kinda
I don't know if it is just a girl thing? I remember a boy named Ben in my school was very adamant that kids could only like Pokemon or Digimon, but not both! It was silly and I did enjoy both, same with WITCH and Winx Club!
Why are we pitting powerful women against each other
cause its fun
staaap😂😂😂😂
Eattt
Women? They're barely through middle school
Middle schoolers don't look like that!@@serenitysubs933
i dont understand the "transformations" part as copied from winx club. Like legit every magical girl series has transformations and if any of them might have stolen it from winx , then they have stolen it form sailor moon or whatever anime xD Some people just wanna shade. im glad how you pointed out its pretty ridiculous
Cardcaptor Sakura doesn't have transformations and Sailor Moon is mostly based on older American super heroes which also have them yet nobody accuses Max Steel of ripping off anime for some reason. Its not even a girl media thing since stuff gets accused of ripping off Pokemon far more than stuff gets accused of ripping off Sailor Moon.
because in the early 2000s when all these shows were airing none of us really knew about anime aside from a handful that made it worldwide, so we didn't know that magical girl was its own genre
@@Evibbles Mahou Shoujo is more of a genre in the sense that Westerns are a genre than how say Murder Mystery is a genre and while European shows like Winx Club and W.I.T.C.H. count there are plenty of Japanese shows like Mai Hime, Symphogear and Kill La Kill which get included incorrectly and ones like Little Witch Academia that get excluded incorrectly.
Sailor Moon has transformations because its a Sentai show not because its a Magical Girl one. Its the makeup and dress up theme to the transformations that make them Magical Girl rather than regular Japanese Henshin Hero ones.
@@AC-dk4fp yes but my point is that you can't say one show is copying another show based purely on its most basic premise (in this case Magical Girl) because if that's the only similarities it shares then they are still completely separate shows.
Regal Academy and Ever After High are often compared because both stripped to the bare bones are about a highschool of the descendants of fairytale characters, but you look any deeper and they aren't at all similar
@@Evibbles Two shows can be thematically similar on a deep level while having different character arcs and story structures.
There's a difference between a complete copy and a modified copy. Taking simple facts about borrowed elements and sources as some kind of personal insult to the fandom can be as immature as insulting things on purpose.
Intertextuality is key to how genres work you can't just use genre to excuse unoriginality.
Copying should be a neutral issue.
Am I the only one who grew up with both W.I.T.C.H. and Winx Club and never considered them a rip-off of one another? The only similarity they had was about the group being magical girls and I was around 7 years old when I tought so.
You’re not the only one
Same
my sister loved witch, I loved winx, we happily coexisted enjoying our respective magical girls
Same I just recently bought the DVD’s for W.I.T.C.H. Season 1 I did have volume 1 but wanted all of them managed to find them and Winx club season 1 and 2 on dvd I grew up and loved these DVD’s my originals got stolen so had to find them again I mean I’m 25 and I still watch them they are like a life line to me.
I’m quite sure the reason EAH ended was because at the time Mattel had a deal with Disney to produce toys for them. But when Mattel came up with EAH, they felt like it’s a stab in the back because *only the big mouse company can make fairy tale media and merchandise!!!!* which is why they moved onto creating Descendants. Then internal drama in between, Mattel was pulled from producing toys and they went on to collaborate with Jakks Pacific. Disney and Mattel seem to have reconciled in recent years tho.
You do realize that EAH isn’t base on disney fairytale but brother Grimm who written original fairytales such as Snow White, Sleeping Beauty etc and other authors such as Hans Christian Andersen who wrote little mermaid until Disney used their stories and changed it to kid friendly version so Disney is sensitive over simple things heck Disney copied so many things such as a anime called Kimba the white lion that was released back in the 60s guess what Disney copied them and honestly they have no right to feel betrayed what Mattel did tbh
@@lofelife9143 yeah I’m aware of it. Unfortunately fairy tales are now mostly associated with DisKnee. True they copied those classic fairy tales and put their own kid friendly twist to it, but to the big mouse company, it’s more of “mine is better lol” instead of who did it first.
@@christopher9306 Thats true and they’re stupid thinking like that and Mattel should continue making EAH series cause its way better then what DisKnee does 😂
@@lofelife9143unfortunately it’s about marketing and optics. It seems like Mattel felt that they couldn’t complete with Disney and would lose money so they pulled the dolls before that could happen
Yeh i actualy own a disney mattel doll from 2023.
I agree with your point about people loving certain girl media and bashing the other, me and my sis always talk about it too
For me I’m obsessed with barbie while she is obsessed with bratz we still dont understand why barbie and bratz fans still fighting like you can enjoy the other media and still loving your fav franchise
Also other people still calling girl media(especially if its magical show) a rip off sailormoon or winx or precure
These accusations are getting old and annoying
Agreed
speaking as a guy there is the spiderman vs batman debuts and star wars vs star trek
I always figured the barbie vs bratz revelry was like that
@@reynellfreeman8761 same thing here with the Barbie and Bratz thought too
I rarely see people say "x is a precure rip-off", more so "glitter force" actually being said as "oh precure ripped off glitter force"
I think balala is the only show that gets compared like that
@@Y0sh1novaNothing gets called a PreCure rip off because latter seasons are mostly just remixes of older ones and the PreCure grognards are all complaining about season X being not enough like Heartcatch and that's why Aikatsu is more popular or whatever its been in the last ten years I don't keep up.
Guess there's an upside to people thinking there haven't been children's cartoons since Madoka Magica episode 3 or whatever nonsense anime news sites and lazy youtubers say.
And that’s the thing: I don’t wanna pick! Each doll line/girl targeted show taught me a lesson or entertained me one way or another, why should I have to pick?
Thank you! Why not both!?
I want a crossover.
Omg I was gonna say Lolirock reminded me more of Pretty Cure than Winx Club, and then I saw that quote how Pretty Cure was one of the inspirations! 😂
Same
Preety cure was a sailor moon ripoff
4:21 "They team up to protect Earth from grammar" killed me omfg 😭
Hi Tony, nice to see you
True.
The fact you left out mia and me 😢😭
(nothing the show isn't used to)
omg i miss that show but i get why it’s not that talked about
Omg fr
I also watched that
the 4kids winx club intro is sooo cunty like i am obsessed
I grew up with the dutch dub of winx. But i have to say the 4kids intro is indeed amazing.
I have grown up with original intro, not 4Kids ver., so the OG remains the best for me. The melody is inspirational, cheerful and also a bit melancholic.
But is it as cunty as the Italian intro?
@@peachesandcream22.
The only good thing about the 4kids dub
I didn’t even know there was a fan war between Witch and Winx. I like both😂
I am so glad that I never forced myself into a box by choosing which show or brand I liked better. I like frilly girl things like Winx and Barbie portray, but I also like W.I.T.C.H and Bratz grittier and y2k style. But I am all about being dynamic and switching up my style constantly.😂😂
Same I don’t know why people think they have to pick one thing when they could choose both
Witch (the comic) was being developed circa late 1995, so it feels weird to laud it as a ripoff. A lot of people left disney italia to work at Rainbow so there definitely was a ping ponging effect of ideas happening during both shows development. (This is to say, if anyone's a ripoff it would be Winx, and there's lots of proof of this) also the lawsuit was based on the logos being similar
And the original authors posted some very old concept arts for WITCH on their instagram pages... Winx is definitely younger than WITCH, even if it displease the fans.
@Arealgenwunner
I liked WITCH precisely because it looked nothing like Winx, it appeared to a different audience that I happened to be a part of. Though I will admit, the Trix and Dark Bloom from the few episodes my kindergarten friend made me watch back then were fire.
@@rainpooper7088 Same
@andyscdcollection415
Sounds like that you're trying to make witch look like that its completely original, ignoring the fact that witch was inspired by sailor moon just like winx.
Winx cartoon has entered development before witch cartoon. the lawsuit wasn't just for the logo but it was for the whole show looking similar to witch, which Disney lost because Rainbow provided receipts of the show being made before Disney made the cartoon adaptation of witch.
Actually W.I.T.C.H. Is not a copycat of the Winx because they came out at the same time 2004. However W.I.T.C.H. Was supposed to air in 2003 but there was too many PG13 scenes that it took a full year to re-edit the show
Thank you
Oh I didn't know that
And W.I.T.C.H comics appeared before Winx.
@@albrtw
Precisely.
Maaaaan, WITCH is like more of an action show (Ben 10, Teen Titans) than a magical girl one. It's even not that girly XD
The only thing I seen that was girly of W.I.T.C.H was the magazine covers 😭
@@BarbieAngel-ze5ieand it starts with the letter W
For real the only thing that screamed "magical girl" to me in the show was the group's transformation, and even then it was hardly girly despite them resembling faeries in their "witch" forms.
@@Emily-cw7tjbased
Magical girl shows are action shows
Hear me out: imagine if in Angels Friends they transformed into biblically accurate angels
U tryin to scare kids or something? 🤣
@@AllyInRealityyes, yes I am
@@josheydubs hero
@@josheydubsIt depends though, biblically accurate angels all look different because of their categories. The ones we’re used to seeing in media are accurate, but are of a lower rank, it’s once you get to the higher ranks that you start seeing the freaky stuff.
Although, imagine how cool it could be if they could slide back and forth between the conventional and non-conventional look if they ever want to intimidate someone.
Seraphims gotta be the coolest looking angels tho@@kenslycarpel3140
It's called magical girls
Agreed
Fr
I remember the time of W.I.T.C.H. and Winx rivarly. I don't know how much rivarly had been doing now but I remember several blogs or fanfics where these two teams were fighting against each other.
Specifically one blog where it was told not only by text but also gifs which enhanced the experience.
I grew up with both. W.I.T.C.H. was earlier in my childhood and even had these comic magazines. While winx I stumbled upon once in vacation and years later before teenhood went into winx as animated W.I.T.C.H. ended with second season and no idea what happened.
But later learned it got at least completed in the comics.
I had dvds of angels friends after I stopped watching winx and then get into Lolirock. Learning about the overall MAgical girl genre. Got into precure and pretty much... I'm chill with all the shows you presented here.
Maybe except ladybug but that's different hellhole.
I didn't know the beef between Winx and W.I.T.C.H. was that bad, i loved both shows a lot tbh because i was obsessed with fairies and magical girls. And while i was very young when Winx started, WITCH was during the beggining of my teenage years so it was a refreshing slightly more mature show that still appealed to my child brain. But i did know that there was this weird stugma that Winx was fir preppy girly girls and WITCH was for tomboy edgy girls. It was a little weird. But i didnt know disney trued to kill winx for like no reason, but I shouldn't be surprised...
I loved both shows too
@@Emily-cw7tj
Same.
same!!!!
I remember catching glimpses of WITCH covers in passing in the 2000s, and at the time I genuinely thought that it could be at least tangentially related to Winx Club. I literally knew nothing else about it other that it looked like Winx Club.
And yes, I'm sick and tired of everyone claiming that LoliRock is a shameless Winx Club ripoff. And I grew up with both LoliRock and Winx Club so I know what I'm talking about.
I love both Witch and Winx. I watched both 🥰 I gotta say though, Witch has way better writing in my opinion.
Yep.
But ngl LoliRock is really good 👌🏾✨I'm still waiting for the third season 🤞🏾
Actually same ! I absolutely love lolirock and I’m so exited for season 3 . I’m glad some people are still into it 😁😁😁❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
REAL
I watched Lolirock monster high ever after high regal academy and winx club and probably lots of other ones and I loved them all but not the newer ones not sure about the newer Lolirock and other things like that tho because I did not know they were making new episodes
Angel friends is so understated despite the horrible dub the plot and character designs are pretty good!
(Sulfus was one of my childhood crushes LMAO
And I'm pretty sure this show was why I'm obsessed with the enemies to lovers trope till this day )
Witch isn't an Italian cartoon. It's an American cartoon based on an Italian comic
But I thought it was French
@@chenillesagoe6348 is there a reason for that?
It was made day French studio.
@@albrtw rainbow spa is an Italian studio
witch was before winx club I remeber being like 6-10 buying comics. And yea they had carttoon long after comics but still... you rather agure that was otherwise if comes to witch and winx club (btw. I like both i just seying witch wast starting off magicial girl thingy in europe)
W.I.T.C.H came before Winx, what are you talking about ?????
True!!!
I always preferred WC to W.I.T.C.H., and I wonder what would've happened if Disney never sued Iginio and worked with him the later seasons instead of Nick (or at least the upcoming reboot).
Oof.... the drama🤭🤭
Thomas Vaccaro mentioned that in his how Nick nearly killed Winx Club
@@chenillesagoe6348 Season 4 was bad, but the Nick seasons were worse.
@@chenillesagoe6348
Exactly.
The fandom war never ends🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 The drama between Winx Club and W. I T.C.H
First of all the protagonists are redheads, both came out in 2004, both magical girl shows✨🌟 (Sam is a redhead from Totally Spies and Kim from Kim Possible is a redhead to). As a Winx fangirl I have a feeling that Netflix messed with the wrong magical girl for a live action Adaptation......
FATE: THE WINX SAGA!!!! MORE LIKE WINGLESS FAIRY, DARK ACADEMIA SAGA 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😠😡😡😡😡😡
Not everything needs to be a not to be a gritty reboot the SpongeBob SquarePants and wix Unite doing the Cyclops in Street Fighter Ryu handshake doing the X-Men versus Street Fighter handshake
Not everything needs to be a not to be a gritty reboot the SpongeBob SquarePants and wix Unite doing the Cyclops in Street Fighter Ryu handshake doing the X-Men versus Street Fighter handshake
@@JuanGomez-ke5py True that's why Iginio is planning to make another live action...I wish Greta Gerwig directed Live Action Winx
@@chenillesagoe6348yup I agree I couldn't even watch the first part of it then I just decided not to watch it at all
When you mention how companies try to pit girls and women against each other with their products my mind was like “Jokes on them, I never fell for it. I just buy whatever I want and it’s everything or close to it at least.”. Like I’m proud to say that I am a Winx and W.I.T.C.H. fan.
W.I.T.C.H Wasn't a rip off but ok
Angel's friends is not a rip off of Winx Club! They aren't even the same shows!
Rewatch the critic with more attention
@Timepilot94 Though, it's a shame that neither the show nor the comics actually got finished. They both finished on a cliffhanger, and I never understood why.
Im happy that Regal Academy got mentioned 😭
Just because it has magic does NOT make it a rip-off
Me who watched Winx Club and W.I.T.C.H. in my teen years agrees completly that they're diffrent 100%. Now where can I watch Regal Academy?
On the topic of Winx X W.I.T.C.H., I think both shows are equally good. I was a huge W.I.T.C.H. fan on my ealry childhood (I was 5 when the show came out) and later on, Winx was booming here in Portugal, and I fell in love with it as well. Both show kinda overlaps on their premises, but they're visually so different.
Winx is so bright and colorful, which was very appealing for me growing up, while W.I.T.C.H. is more gloomy and "edgy" (hate that word lol), which is something that I prefer more nowadays being almost 25 years old. Both are great shows with awesome world-building and character development
Me too.
😻I love magical girl shows,because Its so fun without it being for certain types of people 😇it’s for everyone
W.I.T.C.H. came out around the same time as winx club.
W.I.T.C.H. wasn't a copy at all! It was very different, I wouldn't even call it a copy of Avatar the last Airbender! And speaking of that I wouldn't mind some really well cast, well written and most importantly wokeness free Netflix live action series of W.I.T.C.H.!
Not to mention that W.I.T.C.H comics appeared before Winx.
Does “wokeness free” mean LGBT free? then yeah I agree that pretty much everything should be LGBT free now if you’re basically whining about the whole harmless POC representation thing then idk
@@noorbohamad5796 that POC ''representation'' is done on the basis of white characters and white cultures! I am West Asian myself and I HATE THAT! We see vikings are being portrayed by black actors for heavens sake, how can ANYONE be ok with that and then cmplain about whitewashing?
People who compare ever after high and winx never watched either one of them same with people who compare Lolirock, winx
Yup none of them are the same well not really both are all or almost all girls and have magic and things like that but other then that nothing is the same exact thing enough to make it a rip off
@@Natalielovescats yeah but with ever after high it’s just a story about different fairy tales kids and their destiny and how the evil queen child want to changes hers for the better.
Lolirock is about a three young girl who have to find gems (forgot what they was called) while fighting off the two twins who make different monsters every time and they need those gem stones to repair the crown and defeat what his name so they can save their homeland and parents
So I don’t understand how people can compare them and be like “yep that’s a rip off” like winx club is just about them living in fairy school while fighting off the revival school now world off winx is them pretending to be humans while being on a tv show so they can find these different people who are in danger to save them before it’s too late
@@Moonlight_Garden199 I never said they were the same I said the only thing that’s the same is there is girls in both or all and they have magic and are almost always fighting for something
I also watched all of them so I know what you are talking about
@@Natalielovescats yeah I was agreeing with you sorry if it came off weird lol
bro i love both winx and w.i.t.c.h they have a special place in my heart and i will forever love them
Usasana I'm so glad that acknowledge that lolirock and angel friends took inspiration from anime's like PreCure and Sailor Moon.
Honestly I just heard of angel friends and I would definitely like that
lolirock is definitely get inspired by sailor moon and precure, design wise lolirock is so precure coded (in a good way ofc)
i agree that they aren't rip offs but winx's impact is too often downplayed. it influenced a lot of stuff that came after it especially in barbie and mlp
winx artsyle also clearly influenced monster high
@@bb-nq9hoand ever after high because both are the same but also different they also have one character in both shows and u can see the other show in the other one u can see monster high in ever after high and the other way around
Sorry for no punctuation I have a hard time finding where to put them