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I've been using Phillips Respironics machines for over 10 years now, and all of them were listed as recalled. Thank you for the information. Phillips Respironics should be put put of business, they do not deserve a 2nd chance because of this negligence. Someone is responsible and should be jailed for intentionally covering up the information regarding the toxic emissions by the foam.
Exactly. I have had the Philips dream station which is also listed as recalled and I just found out today also finding out that this recall WAS IN APRIL. My sleep doctor sold me the machine and didn't even warn me about this. I had no idea this was going on. I'm so so stressed right now. This should never happen, how could someone cover this up??? This is 2 million people in America alone, I'm so mad right now.
we also just found out too I called to see when they will sent the replacement so far no machine this is not right how do we know if my husband's certain heath problems are not the cause of this unit I'm ready to call a lawyer
Apparently a ton of companies should be put out of business by your reasoning. Ford determined in the 1970's that it would be cheaper to absorb the cost of lawsuits for the deaths caused by Pintos blowing up than it would be to do a recall on them. How many deaths were caused by faulty Toyota brakes? Don't get me started on all the E.coli recalls from spinach farms. Those were just off the top of my head. I'm sure some research would turn up more gruesome and outrage worthy recalls.
Good for you. Keep us updated. I’m considering it. After using mine for several years I was diagnosed with breast cancer. Genetics test show it was NOT caused by genetics.
Just confirmed my Philips CPAP is part of the recall due to the toxic foam. I used it for 5 years and have experienced a deep cough ever since, watery eyes, damaged throat and voice from chronic deep cough. Dozens of trips to doctor, ENT surgery, pulmonologist. No one knew why until this came out. Thank you for making this information public. It looks like a class action lawsuit is going to be necessary. Please add me if one is underway.
In a little over a year I've discovered I have severe obstructive sleep apnea, started therapy with a Philips Dreamstation, found out about a serious recall, spent three months contemplating the fact that a condition I didn't know I had 6 months ago was still significantly more likely to kill me if I stopped treatment then anything that could be caused by the Philips recall, and today I received a Resmed replacement simply because I was in the right place at the right time. All in all I feel deeply blessed to be doing as well as I am.
I been on res med for several years, glad it’s not harmful, we got enough to deal with, don’t need machines that suppose to help us cause more problems.
Thank you for your most useful video. Philips is showing it’s clients what an unethical company it is. The do deserve to be punished for potentially destroying the health of people who have trusted them, and the pocket is what hurts them most. Some executives seem to deserve action against them in the International Court.
I am a military veteran in the US and recently was sleep tested and diagnosed and given a resmed airsense machine. I was taken into a room with boxes and boxes of brand new airsense 10 machines and given a new one along with some basic instructions. I am so glad that the Veteran's Administration, where I got the the machine from, had made the decision to go with Resmed. I can only the imagine the horrific recall nightmare if the VA had chosen the Philips Dreamstations.
My husband IS using a Phillips machine he got from the VA 7 years ago. So what did they know subsequent to that that prompted the change and when did they know it
I received an email from Philips about the recall a couple of weeks ago(January 2022) I started looking for information about it and find out this recall started 7 Months ago. Your videos have been of great help.
My heart dropped when I learned of this. I worked for medical supply company and we provided thousands of these machines to people. Childrens Hospital only wanted Dreams Stations for all of the kiddos, many who already had multiple health issues. I can remember countless times, people complaining of headaches, sore throats and sometimes breathing problems as if they got sick after their first night or week of usage. We were always told to tell patients this was normal or that they needed more humidity. Truly shocked and saddened 😞💔
@@dragnardrake8633 And still know it but Phillips is doing zip to assume responsibility. There is a zantac lawsuit. Anything from Big Pharma is an eventual recall.
Beyond sad and mad. This is the same health administration that hides information while profiting billions. I AM FED UP with the feds slip up. We the people need to protect the old and young asap
Hi Doug, you don't need to freak out mate but just use the information to make wise decisions moving forward. Just remember Keith Richards is still alive so there's hope for all of us! Good luck brother. Nick
This is so appreciated. When I learned about the issue I had thoughts of doing exactly what you did. All the information was so overwhelming, then I came across this channel and you had done all this work. Thank you Thank you Thank you. (This was what I expected from my provider… instead they are running for the hills in panic).
Exactly my thoughts as well - they do not want to be involved with the many lawsuits that is why. I am so glad my doctors have been documenting all my health problems the past several years more than 6 I have been on this darn machine. ugh
@@onlyinmanchester3309 I'm not a lawyer so I'm not speaking authoritatively, but my layman's guess is that a large challenge will be to show cause and effect.
OMG, Ive used CPAP for years and never knew this. Fortunately I don't have a Phillips machine, but I subscribed to your channel. The fact that you would show your subscribers how to remove the offending foam is so helpful and amazing. I subscribed because you provide an amazing service. Thank you.
Thank you so much Sir. I just found out about this situation yesterday. I was watching a political UA-cam channel, never expecting to hear a story about my CPAP machine. My next UA-cam search bought me to your channel. Thank you again from San Antonio Texas.
Hi Sharin, i'm sorry you had to dip into your own pocket but you can take comfort in knowing it's a proven machine that is safe. Although i have some personal bad feelings towards ResMed gear, it's hard to deny that the products are very good quality and well loved. Have a great day/night. Your friend, Nick
Yea, I did the same thing just the other day. I've already seen too many family members lost to cancer and I don't need to be breathing in anything to increase that risk for myself. I also scare the crap out of my partner when I stop breathing in the middle of the night, so there's not much option outside of throwing down hundreds of dollars from my own pocket to get a replacement. I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford this, but my heart goes out to the others out there who don't have the ability to do this. =/
Same here, I truly feel guilty knowing there's going to be a lot of people with real CPAP issues affected by this not just Philips users. I see this will create shortage of units across the board. From what I'm seeing there will be a long, long wait for Philips to get their act together, apologies too all those who haven't taken action to get out in front early. I can see this crippling Philips when it comes to the fiscal/legal repercussions, not ready to do anything with my old DreamStation (I'm definitely not giving it back to Philips for a quick FIX). Sadly I believe Philips may owe a great deal more than the $$$ I've invested in their HEALTH SOLUTION, but if they didn't poison US they wouldn't be at risk. Yes I also believe the philips product was better as good as the ResMed AirSense 10, which I bought, and I do miss it. thanks Nick, Good luck all.
This new news is even more depressing I had talked myself into still using it but since on the 23rd there was no letter or email like phillip's had promised I will file a lawsuit against every one responsible for distributing this killing machine and for damages to my health
@@seawoods8886 - as I mentioned in an earlier post, the medical profession is dealing with this in a triage manner. You're more likely to die of untreated sleep apnea than you are from the continued use of the Dreamstation device. That's what they're telling you. What they should also have said is that if you can afford it, to replace the machine with a new CPAP as that's the best option. Sadly, not everyone can afford to do so. And even more importantly, if you're using an ozone generator for sterilizing your equipment, stop that immediately as it expedites the deterioration of the seals and foam in the devices. I've got a $300 SoClean that I plan to take out in the countryside and blast with a shotgun.
I have been using the Philips CPAP for a year. Two weeks after starting to use it, I started having respiratory discomfort. I consulted with some specialists and asked if it was due to the CPAP use and they told me that it had nothing to do with it. They told me that it was an environmental allergy. I started treatments and it did not improve. I had very serious breathing crises. I felt desperate. A few weeks ago I saw your video I decided to remove the insulation, which was already quite deteriorated I must tell you that I have improved significantly. I have not had respiratory crises again. The whistling sound that was heard. in my lungs it has almost disappeared. I have not applied medication again to free my airways because, as I told you, I have no longer had any crisis. If it had not happened to me, I would not believe it after so many doctors and so much medication and it was just question of removing a simple insulator, how much irresponsibility of these companies we trust and in them and we end up worse than when we started I am very grateful your publication has changed my life, my most sincere thanks.
Thank you for continuing to provide valuable information to users like me. It is a genuine public service with the highest level of professionalism and veracity. The off-gassing of spray foam has been an established fact for many years and has been debated at length with regard to home insulation. Formaldehyde off-gassing was also an issue with other home-building products. Philips should have known about this while designing the CPAP. The off-gassing should have been a part of the FDA approval process. In essence, this is a gas chamber that we have voluntarily purchased at a high cost. What is the guarantee that the new foam does not have the same properties? I wonder how this device went through approvals. It reeks of misinformation from the start.
I saw a post on a forum from awhile back (long before this info was made public) that said to prepare for a dreamstation recall. They said they worked for a distributer and Philips was pushing the dreamstation 2 hard, trying to replace all stock with it and that they’d never seen anything like it before. That post, along with reviews I’ve seen of the Dreamstation 2 makes me think they’ve known about the issue for awhile and have kept it hush hush. It looks like they rushed the Dreamstation 2 and that’s why it’s so meh. It’s just my conspiracy theory lol but if it’s true it’s sooo messed up.
Thank you for breaking down this information. You are right. We don't have the whole story. I saw a message on the app about the recall and now I am worried just how much damage has been done to my lungs etc. Thank you for pointing out the, "....I don't see any foam in my hose...", part. I was one of those people thinking the exact same thing. I am taking this seriously.
My daughter started using her CPAP at age 10. She is medically fragile with multiple health issues. I’m LIVID my CHILD has been breathing these chemicals for 5 years. I’m so careful about every single product she’s exposed to. I never even dreamed a CPAP company would be so incredibly stupid as to design an air chamber with foam inside it.
So sorry to hear that about your daughter . . i have been exposed to this for 5 years as well and suffered respiratory & lung issues and all those other symptoms . . and I am 63 now . . I am hoping to hear some positive news I can recover from this
@@dominiclarosa6731 I had the same thing happen to me. I started using the Dreamstation 1 in August of 2018 and in March of 2019 I started noticing shortness of breath and tightness in the throat. I've had my heart, lungs, and esophagus checked and they never found anything. I never considered that it was coming from this machine. Hopefully now that we discontinued, maybe our symptoms will go away and there won't be any long-term problems. Hopefully.
Thanks for this video. I watched the academy of medicine talk that was published. Was very helpful. I’ve had to stop using mine because I am only in my 30’s. I am not happy to risk that full-stop.
You're a hero! Thank you for sharing. I've been on therapy with the Dreamstation for 1.5 years. I am now on Resmed Airsense 10 therapy. and oh my. The Resmed is miles and days better. The air pressure is better (more full) than the DS. More settings with the resmed. less noisy. No irritating Football stadium light when turning on the CPAP like the DS. Switch it's so much better!
Fantastic video!! I was "that guy" that didn't see particles and never used an ozone cleaner. After watching this video I immediately took my machine apart and removed the foam via access from the inner compartment. The machine is hardly any louder than before. Barely noticeable. The foam I removed was not degraded and there were no particles in the container. Thank you for everything you
@@sylvia5623 ya I think so. It’s just called “sound abatement foam”. If all it affects is the sound, than all this fuss is for only minor aesthetics. 🙁 like why even add it to the machine if it’s not even needed for the machine to run? 🤔
@@kayleem1037 thanks Kaylee. I understand wanting the machine to be quiet or they would otherwise be the "noisy machine" that doesn't sell well, but they really cut corners with using a material that obviously isn't good to breathe. To put people's health at risk for that minor aesthetic is really the salt in the wound. I'm just going to get my husband to open his up and get rid of the foam because it seems like it is only there for noise.
Thank you for the education. I’ve been using mine for almost 3 years. I’ve been experiencing a lot of the symptoms and weeks ago my sisters mentioned my breathing sounded funny with my machine. One of them recorded me and it was insane to hear. I put my machine away as soon as I spoke to the doctor.
I'm a bit scared to admit... I have had several of the symptoms that you mention. Tight chest and shortness of breadth. Not using anymore. Thanks so much for the very relevant info.
I’ve developed tightness in my throat and I have a persistent headache and cough! I’m stopping using my machine but what are my legal and apnea problem! Help!!
I removed my foam per your terrific instructions and found the foam to be totally disintegrated and sticky. The machine reassembled is still quiet! I used progressive drill bits to gain access to the foam and removed with needle nose pliers...thanks for your work and explanation of the problem. Ps I am keeping the disintegrated foam in a zip bag.
Hi Dan, congrats mate. I have seen some pretty horrible pictures of the foam removed! Glad to hear you were able to remove the cancer and great work keeping it as evidence too! Nick
I just found out about this and what makes me livid is no one called me. Literally nobody called me, emailed me, I’ve been working nonstop the past two weeks so naturally I’m not watching news. I only found out about this because when I called my pharmacy to get a new hose they mentioned the recall in their voicemail. I had to find out about this from a voice message I might not of heard it my hose didn’t need replacing. I can’t get a hold of anybody on the phone and the website is not responding when I try to register my device, and I have severe apnea. Anger doesn’t begin to cover it.
It's a real shame and 100% negligent! What's worse is that all these companies know everything about you but as soon as there is problem they forget how to send a notification! Pathetic - ua-cam.com/video/zUUMEADvgBY/v-deo.html
Hi there, you're welcome. Have a read through the comments. A lot of people having similar problems with headaches and other issues. Obviously having 8 hours of toxic air each night is not going to be good for the brain (or anything else). Best wishes mate. Nick
Thankyou for an unbiased review of Phillips machines....I am being pressured right now to buy the dream station 2 by my therapist at a sleep apnea company....which I will steer away from now....
@@chainman34 I was told the same thing. Talked to them last week. But then this morning the VA called and I have a consult appointment next week at pulmonary, was told to bring my whole machine and everything in with me.
I believe the recall is real. I get surface infections in my nostrils about biweekly. Now for over a year now. I'm recovering from an amazingly painful sinus infection. I haven't used the thing for three nights now. Thanks for the info. Mine is registered with the company and the V.A. knows too. I will be on the phone with my doctor Monday morning! Thanks so much!
This is so crazy. I just randomly came across this on UA-cam. I live in the States. Only had my machine for 2 years but I have not heard one word from my doctor or supplier about this!
I had to mention it to my doctor and she suggested a bacteria filter which Philips says not to use it because it may filter out debris from the degradation of the filter, but: "Bacteria filters do not provide protection from the chemical emissions resulting from manufacturing or continued foam degradation. Furthermore, possible gas emission of the degraded foam has not been fully characterized yet throughout the life of the CPAP/BiLevel device".
Hi Guys, thanks for all the info. I had no idea about this until I stumbled upon your videos. I was really happy with the Dreamstation (I had updated from a Devillbliss) but once I was aware I was sucking in toxic air I was very anxious and hated using the machine. I made the choice to stop using it and bought a new ResMed Airsense 10. Last night was my first night on this new machine. WOW! I haven't slept this well for I don't know how long. I was getting headaches, super bad neck aches, sore teeth, eyes, jaw etc from the Dreamstation and put it down to me getting older. i can't believe how good I feel today. Thanks for all your efforts on this chanel.
What I'd like to know is how it took this long for the outgoing air from the dreamstation to be tested for Volitile organic compounds. I hope that the medical regulatory agencies around the world BEGIN to require such testing for cpap machines, ventilators and the like.
@@CPAPReviews On top of which, it is prescribed for those of us with BREATHING difficulties! Seems like the quality control for medical devices pushing air into peoples' lungs with breathing issues would be a minimum. In the US, we call them "lobbyists" who tell the elected and appointed officials what to think and do.
@@donalddodson7365 It's even worse than that, are elected so-called representatives are even too lazy to write the actual laws. The lobbyists do that too. I'm not exaggerating, that's a known fact. The entire thing is a scam. And this is what we get, being poisoned for profit.
Nick, another great honest video. All this may account for why I cough up a lung each morning for about 30 mins. I had always thought I had not been cleaning my old system one as often as I should have and had moulds growing in the air hose. I have been on CPAP for so long I haven't had a respiratory specialist for 10 years or more, so maybe it's time to find a new one. I saw your system one pull apart the other day, so now I'm just going to do it. Cheers, John
Before the recall my husband's machine was already showing the black particles in his water. He has a new machine (different brand) and I am getting my new one soon. You explained everything so well and I am so glad that I will not be waiting on Philips.
Hi Nick. Foam foam foam ….. you need another brink and hug from the family. Keep up the good work!!! Because of you I now have got myself a Cpap machine and fell so much better for me and my wife also thanks you. Please have a good weekend!!
The issue is the PE-PUR foam that is used for sound abatement can degrade resulting in a host of issues including death Souce: FDA. I recommend requesting them to provide a shipping label to send your machine to a qualified testing facility for analysis. At their expense. Unless or until this testing is conducted, you and they don’t know for sure if you may have been breathing in dangerous VOC’s. Don’t loose chain of custody with your machine by returning it. Request Philips ship you a DreamStation II which uses silicone for sound abatement.
Toxic from the start and that easy to test? That makes me very mad. I have had all kinds of test done on me since I have had this machine, for sinus, dizziness, and other things. They thought heart, and other things too....What if it was this damn thing all along! Ugggh!!
@@ajluke1001 no doubt!! And I just got tools and tore mine apart. I don’t find and foam in this one. It doesn’t appear to have been made with it. There’s the turbine but no place for foam. But there is another odd shaped little box. That might be the culprit
Shoot i used it for a year had headaches mostly ever day got a bad respiratory infection felt like someone was sitting on my chest the pressure was insane and painful. Saw some black in my tube i thought i wasn't cleaning it good enough..now i have nodules in my bronchioles , heart issues wtf. I told my Sleep Dr. and he just said keep wearing it. I gave it a year now I have issues.
Thank you for this great video. I just received the recall letter from Philips on Oct 8, 2021! I have been using Dreamstations for over a decade and did not want to discontinue use until I spoke to my doctor. Of course the letter arrived on a Friday, after 5 o’clock, so the office was closed for the weekend. I am so happy I saw your video and stopped using it immediately. While my sleep has been terrible while I wait for a new machine it is worth it knowing I am not poisoning myself every night. To add insult to injury, I recently lost my mother to pulmonary issues. Heart breaking to think I was destroying my lungs after everything my mom went through. Philips has a special place in h*ll I hope.
I'm in San Antonio Texas, United States, and I'm in the same boat my friends 😳. I came upon by this critical information by complete coincidence. I have had zero contact from any of my doctors regarding this matter.
I just came across your channel saw your review on Dreamstation 2. Thanks for the information. I received my notice from Philips when it first came out earlier this year. In March, I received a new Dreamstation 1 to replace one I had for a little over four years. A few weeks later I received a recall notice and email. Spoke to my doctor immediately he suggested to keep using it and have someone from his staff contact my insurance company about getting a different brand machine due to recall. I encourage you to speak with your doctor they may have more info. Fast forward about 45 days ago I received directly from Philips a new Dreamstation 2 with packing supply and a shipping label to send back my Dreamstation 1 to Philips. I think you need to stay proactive and follow up with your doctor and Philips. Best of luck
My husband had many horrible side effects from his Phillips CPAP machine. He’s got Cong Heart Failure, COPD, Heart Trouble, Bladder and Prostate Cancer etc. When using his CPAP, which he refused to use anymore because of the headaches and horrible chest pains, he told all three of his Doctors. Finally his Cardiologist said STOP USING IT. Tell your pulmonologist to put you on something else. Phillips is now saying the degradation is from ozone cleaners. I don’t believe that. Did anyone here have symptoms without using using Ozone cleaners or having their machine exposed to extreme heat? Thank you for your video.
Thank you so much Nick!! By chance I recently came across one of your foamgate videos on youtube. Otherwise I would still have no idea about the recall etc. I began cpap therapy four years ago and have used the dreamstation 1 machine all this time. I can’t believe nobody, including the company I bought the machine from, is not sending out warning letters to their customers!
Same here no letter nothing I just registered mine yesterday on the website and I had on going issues since I’ve been using this machine I’m gonna talk to a lawyer about this
Thank you for an extremely informative video. You pretty much covered it all. Going to check with my pulmonologist to see if I should stop using my Dream Station. I sleep better than I ever have and I hate to give it up. But I have to weigh the effects of my sleep apnea to those of using a machine with the faulty foam. Thanks again for a great video. I subscribed.
I did it Nick!!! because of your great tutorial.. I took the black foam out of my Dreamstation 1!! I'm a 76 yr old woman... I requested a 'scrip from my Pulmonologist for another CPAP. I talked to a lovely local DME company who say the ResMed machines are back ordered. But I now feel much more comfortable while I wait for the new machine! Unfortunately I received a brand new Dreamstation from my current DME company and won't be able to obtain a new CPAP for 5 years. So I'm out of pocket for a ResMed ... worth it though.
Hi Nick, thanks for doing the work for us. I like it that you are telling us what we need to hear and not what we want to hear. Man this whole thing is a mess. Keep it up.
Hey Jon, i think you summed this up nicely mate. I'm not trying to fill your head with fantasies! That's what facebook is for. I'm going to tell you what i think and if that resonates with you.. great! If it doesn't, no problem :-). Good luck man. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Hey Nick, quick question. I was about to open my old System One to check the foam. Then I saw the small black rectangular filter foam outside located at the back of the machine. That black foam filter is pretty tough. Is that the same foam you can find inside the chamber?
@@ketoasd That is an exterior filter that you should have been washing every week and replacing monthly. There should be a white fine particulate filter below it. These filter are sitting within the air intake.
Thank you for the information. I am in the States and just received a letter from my home medical equipment company about the recall. I have been expering nausea for the last three weeks all day long. I am begining to suspect that it has something to do with my Dream Station as that kind of nausea is not at all normal for me. Just contacted my doctor to see about next steps. I will not be using the Dream Station again and I will not be waiting a year for them to get their shit together. A class action lawsuit in the making it sounds like to me. My sleep apnea is moderate in nature so I can handle not using one for a little while until I get a new one, but I know a lot of people MUST have one to use, including some of my family. Philips can pay for my new machine.
Hi Michelle, thank you for the wonderful comment. I think you have made a very wise decision and i also enjoyed your empathy for those who still must use it even though they know it's dangerous and not good for their health. Thank you. Nicko
Well now. Me thinks Resmed might be rethinking their previous attacks when they receive statistics on customers switching over from their greatest competitor. A minor, questionable copyright infringement may turnout to be a downright silly complaint, on their part. It's truly crazy how such a small part may be creating such a significant danger. You're doing the work of a plucky hard-nosed detective, Nick. Hopefully people will understand that you do such things because you truly care about their health. It may not be causing overt issues for people but clearly sounds like a case of "better safe than sorry." Godspeed!
I had a horrible bacterial infection with a foamy phlegm. Headaches, dizziness, and agravated asthma. And two new heart medicines because of breathing issues. And an increased blood pressure. All since using the Dream station.
Thanks for this informative info and for your time to educate us. I've been using my dreamstation for about 5yrs. I'm calling my Dr first thing in the morning.
Great information and great job on pronouncing the chemical names. A nurse at my GP told me three days ago that as long as you have the other filters in place, it was OK to use it. Wow!
Hey mate, thank you. Yeah unfortunately i hear this a lot. It's a classified as a class 1 recall by the FDA which is the most dangerous class of recall there is so certainly not safe to use. Cheers
Hi. I've just received the sixth communication from PR about my machine. Long story short they are taking one month to respond to each return of information to ask for the same information and a little more. They claimed back in June (1 year ago) that they had a machine ready for me. I am now told I have to return the SD card as they can't read the data dump I sent them. Estimate is another 8 to 10 weeks to get a replacement machine. Thank you for your instructions on removing the foam. I dodged a bullet by not having to use the old foam'ed machine when the hospital used Oxygen in my CPAP line during surgery. Owe you lots.
I thought mines was from aneixty and med. I just wonder how these cpap has affect that the past year. I do sleep better but several months my anxiety seem to had increased and barely getting better now
Thank you Nick for sacrificing your Friday night for us in keeping us informed. Let’s hope that once all those that keeps saying it’s all ok I didn’t do this or that will finally take note. Thanks to you and this video, I was finally able to get a different machine. 🥰 (BTW Aussie Rules rocks! 😂)
I've started therapy in March , my Dreamstation was great , but my clinician made the recall for me and sent me a brand new ResMed AirSense 10 free of charge . Starting using the ResMed in a couple minutes , hope i'll like it !
I just received my dreamstation 2 from the recall but after watching this I’m apprehensive to even trust this unit. It would be great if you had a video or even suggest what would be good options for a different CPAP unit that I could purchase. Thanks for all the great info, this recall from the start has been one big mess. Not only does my health depend on using my CPAP but I’m a truck driver and my livelihood does as well.
I just discovered your channel. I appreciate what you're doing. This is very helpful information. Thanks for doing the research on this and sharing it. Your doing all of us CPAP users a valuable service for free. I am subscribing now.
I have been very displeased with Phillips with all of this and am planning on moving away from the dream stations. Just some ideas: I would love to see some comparisons of options that are out there and also some coverage of the online stores that sell cpaps, though I know the latter varies by country and may be outside where you want to go. I really appreciate what you are doing here. I am both a user and a behavioral Sleep medicine provider (PhD clinical psychologist) and have found your info helpful both personally and professionally. At the very least this event will be helpful in getting me more up-to-speed on the non-Phillips offerings!
Hi there, amazing comment and i hear you 100%. It's a tricky one and i hope you understand. I really want my viewers to feel like this is an honest channel that truely reflects my own personal views and those of the viewers. Although i have certain products which i prefer i do try and come across as fairly neutral and just provide the specifications, features and feedback from the everyday customers like yourself. There's always a level of bias on every 'review' site and there is in this one too but it's well balanced and there's enough transparency for those who care to look. Best wishes and thanks for your insights. Nick :-)
incredible... i called Philips when i received the recall email a year ago and was told "not to worry, your machine isn't affected and that its only causing headaches" i have continued using it until today when i went to pick up some new filters and was explained in detail of the issues... i have since found out that my machine is one that has been recalled (was told it wasnt a year ago) kind of freaked out now.. very informative video thank you.
Oh Man! I was one of those "I don't see any particles, I don't use Ozone cleaners etc." people, but I see now that I need to think long and hard about my future therapy. I too have been recently diagnosed with respiratory issues and I may now have an explanation where they originated from. I do wonder though if the foam used by other CPAP machine manufacturers has similar problems. The new foam in the DS2 looks like an entirely different composition - it looks like it might to break down over time sending little white particles into the air-stream. Perhaps Philips need to re-design the casing so that it is easily opened and the foam easily replaced.
That's what I was thinking about, the new white foam is not durable at all... what if it breaks down in a few year's time? Will Philips issue some sort of 'time to change the foam' deadline when they replace the old casings ? 🤔
Omfg, thank you. I had lung issues straight after starting on my dreamstation. I put it down to my Asthma going bad and went in a preventative. Omg it was this machine from day 1. So f.... cross. How was that not done day 1 by Phillips and by our TGA
Hi Sandra, firstly, extremely sorry that you have had to deal with these medical issues. It's really not good enough and i imagine there's thousands of people just like you who are looking for the same answers. Best wishes for the future. Nick
Me as well ! Ongoing sinus congestion symptoms. My EENT -a jerk- said it’s not chronic sinusitis, it’s allergic rhinitis. My Symptoms do not match in any way. Pulmonologist blew me off to the EENT 😡or my primary! Hate the medical system. Retired RN here
Hi David, if it was a well organised recall with adequate information and a quick turnaround time then i would have no problems in recommending the brand. The truth is that this recall has been an absolute joke! No information, no time frame and very poorly managed. They don't deserve your business and i don't think they even care if they loose your business! Move on brother. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Between my dr, the center that distributed my machine and philips...it is a complete joke...almost as bad a joke as the last election...lol
Just got letter mandatory recall in Canada. They said immediately stop using. My problem is without it, I will get a major headache in morning. I have moderate sleep apnea.
Thank you mate! I am putting my DreamStation back in the case. And will demand my money back, and go buy a new machine that’s NOT Philips I appreciate you looking out for all our health, big Corporations don’t give a crap about us, this is like TAKATA Airbag recalls, it’s going to take forever and people are going to pay the price! 😎👍
Hey man, you will always get a much better response from a business if you don't 'demand' something. Just have the information, be polite and present it to them in a reasonable manner. Most companies will respond well but if they don't then you can go crazy haha. Good luck brother. Let me know how you go. Nick
I replaced my Phillips machine a few months ago, thankfully with a different brand. Nothing to do with this issue; it was just time to replace it. During the time I was using it I developed progressively worsening breathing problems and was diagnosed with COPD. I’ve never smoked a cigarette in my life. Since replacement my breathing has dramatically improved. I didn’t make any connection until now.
I use the DreamStation as a patient with sleep apnea. Went to my annual appointment with the sleep center, the nurse practitioner asked me if I used "So Clean" with my unit. I don't, and said so. Apparently the "So Clean" devices weren't on the market at the time the DreamStations were designed and distributed. It's my understanding that the "So Clean" procedure does something to the foam inside the Dream Station. They asked me if I was getting black particles from the disintegrating foam. I said No. They advised me to avoid using the "So Clean" product, continue using it like normal, and get back to them if anything was wrong.
Hi there, unfortunately the information you have been provided with is somewhat incorrect. Although the SoClean and other sterilizing devices that use ozone can increase the rate of degradation, lab analysis also shows heat and humidity also cause it and there's many thousands of people who have never used a SoClean that have experienced issues. On top this, regardless of the foam degradation, lab analysis also shows that from the very first day the foam 'off gases' toxic chemicals outside the 'safe range'. There's a lot of misinformation out there. Good luck
Thanks for this! In reading the comments, it's just scary to see how many of us have mystery symptoms. For the last 9 months I've been suffering with health issues that three doctors so far have not been able to find the cause of. Two more specialists scheduled in the coming month. (Sinus issues, congestion, excessive thick, sticky mucus in throat, frequent headaches, occasional coughing, dizziness, fatigue. I've also had idiopathic chronic hives for 2 years, and I can't help but wonder if that's related as well.) I only found out about this because the place I bought my machine sent me a notice - My pulmonologist has provided no information, and when calling he told me I have no choice but to keep using the machine as my apnea is severe (Unless I want to purchase a new machine out of pocket right now, which I cannot.) My husband had an old RemStar machine that's *supposedly* not affected by the recall, so I've been using that for the last month or so. No issues with dizziness anymore, and I've been coughing less at night. The other issues haven't ceased, unfortunately.
From Canada: My RRT said to not worry about it. What concerns me is that Philips doesn't say 'stop using your machine'. Here their emails (forwarded from RRT) say 'consult your doctor' or some such. Well, like many Canadians I don't have a primary care physician. And to even get a referral to see a sleep specialist, then wait in queue for one's appointment, it typically takes 3-6 weeks to see the doctor, then another 3-4months to see the specialist. I moved provinces and am in the slow process of finding an MD taking new patients, at least one who isn't fresh out of medical school/'off the boat'. I called Philips a month or so after registering and asked whether they received my online form. They have, but they are waiting for Canada's FDA to make a decision on what they have to do to correct the weakness of the machine. So, we are in the dark. Stop using, continue using, modify, what? I don't understand why Philips isn't just sending everyone a replacement. Wouldn't that be good will and also reduce the likelihood of them being sued?
Why are they even designing these casings with air running through the foam?? That is a HUGE design flaw. If they’d simply sealed it, this wouldn’t be an issue.
As I’m watching this I get a Phillips add talking about the recall on their machines 🤦🏻♀️ Feels like their panicking. As well they should be. Good luck to everyone. Especially those with new cancer diagnosis. Stay strong.
Hi Laura, oh really?! Yeah i think their lawyers have probably told them they need to get proactive otherwise they will look negligent (which they are). Best wishes. Nick
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I've been using Phillips Respironics machines for over 10 years now, and all of them were listed as recalled.
Thank you for the information. Phillips Respironics should be put put of business, they do not deserve a 2nd chance because of this negligence. Someone is responsible and should be jailed for intentionally covering up the information regarding the toxic emissions by the foam.
Exactly. I have had the Philips dream station which is also listed as recalled and I just found out today also finding out that this recall WAS IN APRIL. My sleep doctor sold me the machine and didn't even warn me about this. I had no idea this was going on. I'm so so stressed right now. This should never happen, how could someone cover this up??? This is 2 million people in America alone, I'm so mad right now.
we also just found out too I called to see when they will sent the replacement so far no machine this is not right how do we know if my husband's certain heath problems are not the cause of this unit I'm ready to call a lawyer
Apparently a ton of companies should be put out of business by your reasoning. Ford determined in the 1970's that it would be cheaper to absorb the cost of lawsuits for the deaths caused by Pintos blowing up than it would be to do a recall on them. How many deaths were caused by faulty Toyota brakes? Don't get me started on all the E.coli recalls from spinach farms.
Those were just off the top of my head. I'm sure some research would turn up more gruesome and outrage worthy recalls.
@@shreksswag5690 me too.
@@wandatearney2014 I called one today
I'm lawyer-ed up! i used one for two years before my leukemia hit.
Good for you man! Please keep me informed. Best wishes brother. Nick
Good for you. Keep us updated. I’m considering it. After using mine for several years I was diagnosed with breast cancer. Genetics test show it was NOT caused by genetics.
Great idea. Who you with
@@Chihusky177 hach & rose llp out of new york
Not sure how So Clean isn't gonna be held responsible for a lot of this
Just confirmed my Philips CPAP is part of the recall due to the toxic foam. I used it for 5 years and have experienced a deep cough ever since, watery eyes, damaged throat and voice from chronic deep cough. Dozens of trips to doctor, ENT surgery, pulmonologist. No one knew why until this came out. Thank you for making this information public. It looks like a class action lawsuit is going to be necessary. Please add me if one is underway.
In a little over a year I've discovered I have severe obstructive sleep apnea, started therapy with a Philips Dreamstation, found out about a serious recall, spent three months contemplating the fact that a condition I didn't know I had 6 months ago was still significantly more likely to kill me if I stopped treatment then anything that could be caused by the Philips recall, and today I received a Resmed replacement simply because I was in the right place at the right time. All in all I feel deeply blessed to be doing as well as I am.
I been on res med for several years, glad it’s not harmful, we got enough to deal with, don’t need machines that suppose to help us cause more problems.
Thank you for your most useful video. Philips is showing it’s clients what an unethical company it is. The do deserve to be punished for potentially destroying the health of people who have trusted them, and the pocket is what hurts them most. Some executives seem to deserve action against them in the International Court.
I am a military veteran in the US and recently was sleep tested and diagnosed and given a resmed airsense machine. I was taken into a room with boxes and boxes of brand new airsense 10 machines and given a new one along with some basic instructions. I am so glad that the Veteran's Administration, where I got the the machine from, had made the decision to go with Resmed. I can only the imagine the horrific recall nightmare if the VA had chosen the Philips Dreamstations.
Many VAs do use Respironics and it is a total nightmare to say the least.
My husband IS using a Phillips machine he got from the VA 7 years ago. So what did they know subsequent to that that prompted the change and when did they know it
I received an email from Philips about the recall a couple of weeks ago(January 2022)
I started looking for information about it and find out this recall started 7 Months ago.
Your videos have been of great help.
Yup. My unit is on the recall list. This is the first i found any notice of this. Here in the US. Thank You for the heads up!!
My heart dropped when I learned of this. I worked for medical supply company and we provided thousands of these machines to people. Childrens Hospital only wanted Dreams Stations for all of the kiddos, many who already had multiple health issues. I can remember countless times, people complaining of headaches, sore throats and sometimes breathing problems as if they got sick after their first night or week of usage. We were always told to tell patients this was normal or that they needed more humidity. Truly shocked and saddened 😞💔
So sad 😭
If what you are saying is true, It shows they knew of the problem and tried to cover it up
@@dragnardrake8633 And still know it but Phillips is doing zip to assume responsibility. There is a zantac lawsuit. Anything from Big Pharma is an eventual recall.
Beyond sad and mad. This is the same health administration that hides information while profiting billions. I AM FED UP with the feds slip up. We the people need to protect the old and young asap
I got strep throat. I have a permanent cough when I eat. I wondered if something would show up in my throat or sinuses.
Good Lord !!!!! I'm freaking out now. Thank you so much for the information.
Hi Doug, you don't need to freak out mate but just use the information to make wise decisions moving forward. Just remember Keith Richards is still alive so there's hope for all of us! Good luck brother. Nick
This is so appreciated. When I learned about the issue I had thoughts of doing exactly what you did. All the information was so overwhelming, then I came across this channel and you had done all this work. Thank you Thank you Thank you. (This was what I expected from my provider… instead they are running for the hills in panic).
Hi there, this comment means a lot to me. Thank you very much. Nick
Philips just more CHICOM GARBAGE !!!
How about indifference.
Exactly my thoughts as well - they do not want to be involved with the many lawsuits that is why. I am so glad my doctors have been documenting all my health problems the past several years more than 6 I have been on this darn machine. ugh
Imagine how many class actions lawsuits can be filed in a year. Buckle up, Philips!
I believe they have already begun! They're use to it though! Nick
I have a solicitor working with me in UK mines made me ill and sick 😢
@@onlyinmanchester3309 I'm not a lawyer so I'm not speaking authoritatively, but my layman's guess is that a large challenge will be to show cause and effect.
Signed up for mine today in Canada
@@CPAPReviews Nick I heard they are going to reimburse us for the machines
I want to Thank You for being honest with us all !
I just caught this video at random. I am shocked. Thank you for all of your work. I've had some of these symptoms and just assumed it was my apnea.
You're welcome. All the best mate. Nick
OMG, Ive used CPAP for years and never knew this. Fortunately I don't have a Phillips machine, but I subscribed to your channel. The fact that you would show your subscribers how to remove the offending foam is so helpful and amazing. I subscribed because you provide an amazing service. Thank you.
Thank you so much Sir. I just found out about this situation yesterday. I was watching a political UA-cam channel, never expecting to hear a story about my CPAP machine. My next UA-cam search bought me to your channel. Thank you again from San Antonio Texas.
I bought out of pocket a resmed airsense 10 Monday. I knew it would take forever. Thanks for all your updates.
Hi Sharin, i'm sorry you had to dip into your own pocket but you can take comfort in knowing it's a proven machine that is safe. Although i have some personal bad feelings towards ResMed gear, it's hard to deny that the products are very good quality and well loved. Have a great day/night. Your friend, Nick
Yea, I did the same thing just the other day. I've already seen too many family members lost to cancer and I don't need to be breathing in anything to increase that risk for myself. I also scare the crap out of my partner when I stop breathing in the middle of the night, so there's not much option outside of throwing down hundreds of dollars from my own pocket to get a replacement. I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford this, but my heart goes out to the others out there who don't have the ability to do this. =/
Same here,
I truly feel guilty knowing there's going to be a lot of people with real CPAP issues affected by this not just Philips users. I see this will create shortage of units across the board. From what I'm seeing there will be a long, long wait for Philips to get their act together, apologies too all those who haven't taken action to get out in front early.
I can see this crippling Philips when it comes to the fiscal/legal repercussions, not ready to do anything with my old DreamStation (I'm definitely not giving it back to Philips for a quick FIX). Sadly I believe Philips may owe a great deal more than the $$$ I've invested in their HEALTH SOLUTION, but if they didn't poison US they wouldn't be at risk.
Yes I also believe the philips product was better as good as the ResMed AirSense 10, which I bought, and I do miss it.
thanks Nick,
Good luck all.
Same - first usage last night :)
I just got a resmed airsense 10 also. I love it.
This new news is even more depressing I had talked myself into still using it but since on the 23rd there was no letter or email like phillip's had promised I will file a lawsuit against every one responsible for distributing this killing machine and for damages to my health
Please let me know who you contact to help you. My sleep lab told me to continue using it. I need a whole new care team.
@@seawoods8886 I am going to buy one out of pocket. I can’t sleep without it
@@seawoods8886 woah, Yes dear you need to get a new care team that's crazy!!!!!!!
@@seawoods8886 - as I mentioned in an earlier post, the medical profession is dealing with this in a triage manner. You're more likely to die of untreated sleep apnea than you are from the continued use of the Dreamstation device. That's what they're telling you. What they should also have said is that if you can afford it, to replace the machine with a new CPAP as that's the best option. Sadly, not everyone can afford to do so. And even more importantly, if you're using an ozone generator for sterilizing your equipment, stop that immediately as it expedites the deterioration of the seals and foam in the devices. I've got a $300 SoClean that I plan to take out in the countryside and blast with a shotgun.
I have been using the Philips CPAP for a year. Two weeks after starting to use it, I started having respiratory discomfort. I consulted with some specialists and asked if it was due to the CPAP use and they told me that it had nothing to do with it. They told me that it was an environmental allergy.
I started treatments and it did not improve.
I had very serious breathing crises. I felt desperate. A few weeks ago I saw your video I decided to remove the insulation, which was already quite deteriorated I must tell you that I have improved significantly. I have not had respiratory crises again. The whistling sound that was heard. in my lungs it has almost disappeared. I have not applied medication again to free my airways because, as I told you, I have no longer had any crisis. If it had not happened to me, I would not believe it after so many doctors and so much medication and it was just question of removing a simple insulator, how much irresponsibility of these companies we trust and in them and we end up worse than when we started I am very grateful your publication
has changed my life, my most sincere thanks.
Thank you for continuing to provide valuable information to users like me. It is a genuine public service with the highest level of professionalism and veracity. The off-gassing of spray foam has been an established fact for many years and has been debated at length with regard to home insulation. Formaldehyde off-gassing was also an issue with other home-building products. Philips should have known about this while designing the CPAP. The off-gassing should have been a part of the FDA approval process. In essence, this is a gas chamber that we have voluntarily purchased at a high cost. What is the guarantee that the new foam does not have the same properties? I wonder how this device went through approvals. It reeks of misinformation from the start.
Great comment mate and i really respect it. Thank you! Nick
I saw a post on a forum from awhile back (long before this info was made public) that said to prepare for a dreamstation recall. They said they worked for a distributer and Philips was pushing the dreamstation 2 hard, trying to replace all stock with it and that they’d never seen anything like it before.
That post, along with reviews I’ve seen of the Dreamstation 2 makes me think they’ve known about the issue for awhile and have kept it hush hush. It looks like they rushed the Dreamstation 2 and that’s why it’s so meh. It’s just my conspiracy theory lol but if it’s true it’s sooo messed up.
@@samuraitoaster very true, where there is smoke there is fire and in this case it was a furnace
Question everything from the "health care machine". If we're are healthy they loose business. They litteraly keep us sick for the money
me too. i received my new machine also
Thank you for breaking down this information. You are right. We don't have the whole story. I saw a message on the app about the recall and now I am worried just how much damage has been done to my lungs etc. Thank you for pointing out the, "....I don't see any foam in my hose...", part. I was one of those people thinking the exact same thing. I am taking this seriously.
Keep the vids coming! Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Phillips is going to face some lawsuits over all of this. Thanks for the info Nick. You are the bomb!
Hey! Most definitely. You're so welcome ;-)
My daughter started using her CPAP at age 10. She is medically fragile with multiple health issues. I’m LIVID my CHILD has been breathing these chemicals for 5 years. I’m so careful about every single product she’s exposed to. I never even dreamed a CPAP company would be so incredibly stupid as to design an air chamber with foam inside it.
That’s terrifying :( I’m so sorry. This is infuriating!
So sorry to hear that about your daughter . . i have been exposed to this for 5 years as well and suffered respiratory & lung issues and all those other symptoms . . and I am 63 now . . I am hoping to hear some positive news I can recover from this
Me three... It might even be that bad that it's put myself onto the NDIS
@@TheWoundedWarrior What is NDIS sorry to ask ?
@@dominiclarosa6731 I had the same thing happen to me. I started using the Dreamstation 1 in August of 2018 and in March of 2019 I started noticing shortness of breath and tightness in the throat. I've had my heart, lungs, and esophagus checked and they never found anything. I never considered that it was coming from this machine. Hopefully now that we discontinued, maybe our symptoms will go away and there won't be any long-term problems. Hopefully.
Thanks for this video. I watched the academy of medicine talk that was published. Was very helpful. I’ve had to stop using mine because I am only in my 30’s. I am not happy to risk that full-stop.
You're a hero! Thank you for sharing. I've been on therapy with the Dreamstation for 1.5 years. I am now on Resmed Airsense 10 therapy. and oh my. The Resmed is miles and days better. The air pressure is better (more full) than the DS. More settings with the resmed. less noisy. No irritating Football stadium light when turning on the CPAP like the DS. Switch it's so much better!
Fantastic video!! I was "that guy" that didn't see particles and never used an ozone cleaner. After watching this video I immediately took my machine apart and removed the foam via access from the inner compartment. The machine is hardly any louder than before. Barely noticeable. The foam I removed was not degraded and there were no particles in the container. Thank you for everything you
Wait.. this foam is just to keep it quieter?? It's not actually needed?
@@sylvia5623 ya I think so. It’s just called “sound abatement foam”. If all it affects is the sound, than all this fuss is for only minor aesthetics. 🙁 like why even add it to the machine if it’s not even needed for the machine to run? 🤔
@@kayleem1037 thanks Kaylee. I understand wanting the machine to be quiet or they would otherwise be the "noisy machine" that doesn't sell well, but they really cut corners with using a material that obviously isn't good to breathe. To put people's health at risk for that minor aesthetic is really the salt in the wound.
I'm just going to get my husband to open his up and get rid of the foam because it seems like it is only there for noise.
@@sylvia5623 so is the foam only there for noise protection?
@@Myworldmymind908 Yes. The foam is only there to reduce noise, and does nothing to help the actual breathing of the patient.
Thank you for the education. I’ve been using mine for almost 3 years. I’ve been experiencing a lot of the symptoms and weeks ago my sisters mentioned my breathing sounded funny with my machine. One of them recorded me and it was insane to hear. I put my machine away as soon as I spoke to the doctor.
Sounds like I have been in the same boat. My Dreamstation was my 3rd machine and I'm very compliant. Thanks for your input.
Time for you to get a good lawyer !!!
I'm a bit scared to admit... I have had several of the symptoms that you mention. Tight chest and shortness of breadth. Not using anymore. Thanks so much for the very relevant info.
Same here !
Me too.
I’ve developed tightness in my throat and I have a persistent headache and cough! I’m stopping using my machine but what are my legal and apnea problem! Help!!
I removed my foam per your terrific instructions and found the foam to be totally disintegrated and sticky. The machine reassembled is still quiet! I used progressive drill bits to gain access to the foam and removed with needle nose pliers...thanks for your work and explanation of the problem. Ps I am keeping the disintegrated foam in a zip bag.
Hi Dan, congrats mate. I have seen some pretty horrible pictures of the foam removed! Glad to hear you were able to remove the cancer and great work keeping it as evidence too! Nick
Removed mine also, Cut three flaps used a small screwdriver to extract. Then used foil tape to seal flaps.
I still wouldn't use the machine. Some of the chemical could have been absorbed by the surrounding plastic?
did you also file for the recall ?
How long have you used the machine? And did you use ozone or any cleaner ever?
and instead od answering me she hung up. I called back and was told they were closing at 8PM. Thank you very much for all your help.
You're welcome mate. Good luck. Nicko
We really do appreciate what you are doing for us. A BIG THANK YOU.
There is no telling how many lives you are saving down the road. Thanks again
I just found out about this and what makes me livid is no one called me. Literally nobody called me, emailed me, I’ve been working nonstop the past two weeks so naturally I’m not watching news. I only found out about this because when I called my pharmacy to get a new hose they mentioned the recall in their voicemail. I had to find out about this from a voice message I might not of heard it my hose didn’t need replacing. I can’t get a hold of anybody on the phone and the website is not responding when I try to register my device, and I have severe apnea. Anger doesn’t begin to cover it.
It's a real shame and 100% negligent! What's worse is that all these companies know everything about you but as soon as there is problem they forget how to send a notification! Pathetic - ua-cam.com/video/zUUMEADvgBY/v-deo.html
Thank you for this information; I've been having early morning headaches for a while now maybe this is the reason.
Hi there, you're welcome. Have a read through the comments. A lot of people having similar problems with headaches and other issues. Obviously having 8 hours of toxic air each night is not going to be good for the brain (or anything else). Best wishes mate. Nick
I do CPAP for a living...thank you for the great video. I can educate my patients better.
Thankyou for an unbiased review of Phillips machines....I am being pressured right now to buy the dream station 2 by my therapist at a sleep apnea company....which I will steer away from now....
So glad I stuck with RESMED!!!
I contacted the VA about it and stopped using my Dreamstation as soon as i heard about recall the VA said that they are working on it ASAP
Good luck mate. Nick
The VA told me to register on the Phillips site and that the VA wasn’t going to do anything. Your VA sounds better than mine.
@@chainman34 I was told the same thing. Talked to them last week. But then this morning the VA called and I have a consult appointment next week at pulmonary, was told to bring my whole machine and everything in with me.
I believe the recall is real. I get surface infections in my nostrils about biweekly. Now for over a year now. I'm recovering from an amazingly painful sinus infection. I haven't used the thing for three nights now. Thanks for the info. Mine is registered with the company and the V.A. knows too. I will be on the phone with my doctor Monday morning! Thanks so much!
it's 100% real mate! A lot more info has been released since this video - ua-cam.com/video/plC1aUPbcdw/v-deo.html
I just found out today !!!! Called for more supplies and was informed. I've been complaining to my wife of breathing issues for years . I'm pissed
Thank you so much for sharing this. I appreciate it. I have Central Apnea. This is crazy!
Thanks for the info friend, lots of good information! I think we'll get the same surprise with our current vaccines as well in a matter of time.
This is so crazy. I just randomly came across this on UA-cam. I live in the States. Only had my machine for 2 years but I have not heard one word from my doctor or supplier about this!
I had to mention it to my doctor and she suggested a bacteria filter which Philips says not to use it because it may filter out debris from the degradation of the filter, but:
"Bacteria filters do not provide protection from the chemical emissions resulting from manufacturing or continued foam degradation. Furthermore, possible gas emission of the degraded foam has not been fully characterized yet throughout the life of the CPAP/BiLevel device".
Hi Guys, thanks for all the info. I had no idea about this until I stumbled upon your videos. I was really happy with the Dreamstation (I had updated from a Devillbliss) but once I was aware I was sucking in toxic air I was very anxious and hated using the machine. I made the choice to stop using it and bought a new ResMed Airsense 10. Last night was my first night on this new machine. WOW! I haven't slept this well for I don't know how long. I was getting headaches, super bad neck aches, sore teeth, eyes, jaw etc from the Dreamstation and put it down to me getting older. i can't believe how good I feel today. Thanks for all your efforts on this chanel.
Hi Ian, glad you enjoyed the vid and happy to hear you are having a great time with your new cpap. Best wishes for the future. Nick
Good for you,to many people can’t afford to buy what might keep them safe ? ❤❤❤
What I'd like to know is how it took this long for the outgoing air from the dreamstation to be tested for Volitile organic compounds. I hope that the medical regulatory agencies around the world BEGIN to require such testing for cpap machines, ventilators and the like.
That's a very good question! You would think it would have been one of the first things to be tested considering it's an air pump! Cheers
@@CPAPReviews On top of which, it is prescribed for those of us with BREATHING difficulties! Seems like the quality control for medical devices pushing air into peoples' lungs with breathing issues would be a minimum. In the US, we call them "lobbyists" who tell the elected and appointed officials what to think and do.
@@donalddodson7365 It's even worse than that, are elected so-called representatives are even too lazy to write the actual laws. The lobbyists do that too. I'm not exaggerating, that's a known fact. The entire thing is a scam. And this is what we get, being poisoned for profit.
First night I used it the smell of plastic was bad. Sleep tight.
Nick, another great honest video. All this may account for why I cough up a lung each morning for about 30 mins. I had always thought I had not been cleaning my old system one as often as I should have and had moulds growing in the air hose. I have been on CPAP for so long I haven't had a respiratory specialist for 10 years or more, so maybe it's time to find a new one. I saw your system one pull apart the other day, so now I'm just going to do it.
Cheers,
John
Before the recall my husband's machine was already showing the black particles in his water. He has a new machine (different brand) and I am getting my new one soon. You explained everything so well and I am so glad that I will not be waiting on Philips.
Hi Nick.
Foam foam foam ….. you need another brink and hug from the family.
Keep up the good work!!! Because of you I now have got myself a Cpap machine and fell so much better for me and my wife also thanks you. Please have a good weekend!!
Bloody auto correct another drink not brink…..
The issue is the PE-PUR foam that is used for sound abatement can degrade resulting in a host of issues including death Souce: FDA. I recommend requesting them to provide a shipping label to send your machine to a qualified testing facility for analysis. At their expense.
Unless or until this testing is conducted, you and they don’t know for sure if you may have been breathing in dangerous VOC’s. Don’t loose chain of custody with your machine by returning it.
Request Philips ship you a DreamStation II which uses silicone for sound abatement.
Wouldn't it have been nice if Phillips had done this testing before putting the machine on the market?
Toxic from the start and that easy to test? That makes me very mad. I have had all kinds of test done on me since I have had this machine, for sinus, dizziness, and other things. They thought heart, and other things too....What if it was this damn thing all along! Ugggh!!
@@ajluke1001 that sucks bro! Good luck!! I’ve been developing a chronic cough over the past year too. I’ve been using this thing ten years 🤦
@@kennyt957 The whole thing stinks! How easy it would be to test before market? Gotta make that $$$
@@ajluke1001 no doubt!! And I just got tools and tore mine apart. I don’t find and foam in this one. It doesn’t appear to have been made with it. There’s the turbine but no place for foam. But there is another odd shaped little box. That might be the culprit
Shoot i used it for a year had headaches mostly ever day got a bad respiratory infection felt like someone was sitting on my chest the pressure was insane and painful. Saw some black in my tube i thought i wasn't cleaning it good enough..now i have nodules in my bronchioles , heart issues wtf. I told my Sleep Dr. and he just said keep wearing it. I gave it a year now I have issues.
Thank you for this great video. I just received the recall letter from Philips on Oct 8, 2021! I have been using Dreamstations for over a decade and did not want to discontinue use until I spoke to my doctor. Of course the letter arrived on a Friday, after 5 o’clock, so the office was closed for the weekend. I am so happy I saw your video and stopped using it immediately. While my sleep has been terrible while I wait for a new machine it is worth it knowing I am not poisoning myself every night. To add insult to injury, I recently lost my mother to pulmonary issues. Heart breaking to think I was destroying my lungs after everything my mom went through. Philips has a special place in h*ll I hope.
i live in eu and have not heard a single word from literally anybody about this issue. would have never known without you. thank you
Welcome Pedro. Good luck. Nick
I'm in San Antonio Texas, United States, and I'm in the same boat my friends 😳. I came upon by this critical information by complete coincidence. I have had zero contact from any of my doctors regarding this matter.
Time to talk biz with my doctor need to get an X-ray of my lungs and change doctor. Thank you for all you work. 🙏
Hi there, i think it's definitely worth just sitting down with your doctor and talking about the facts :-). I wish you all the best. Nick
Thank you so so much! You're the only one who's given me any answers!!
Hi Kim, that's exactly what i like to hear! You're very welcome :-)
I just came across your channel saw your review on Dreamstation 2. Thanks for the information. I received my notice from Philips when it first came out earlier this year. In March, I received a new Dreamstation 1 to replace one I had for a little over four years. A few weeks later I received a recall notice and email. Spoke to my doctor immediately he suggested to keep using it and have someone from his staff contact my insurance company about getting a different brand machine due to recall. I encourage you to speak with your doctor they may have more info. Fast forward about 45 days ago I received directly from Philips a new Dreamstation 2 with packing supply and a shipping label to send back my Dreamstation 1 to Philips. I think you need to stay proactive and follow up with your doctor and Philips. Best of luck
My husband had many horrible side effects from his Phillips CPAP machine. He’s got Cong Heart Failure, COPD, Heart Trouble, Bladder and Prostate Cancer etc. When using his CPAP, which he refused to use anymore because of the headaches and horrible chest pains, he told all three of his Doctors. Finally his Cardiologist said STOP USING IT. Tell your pulmonologist to put you on something else.
Phillips is now saying the degradation is from ozone cleaners. I don’t believe that. Did anyone here have symptoms without using using Ozone cleaners or having their machine exposed to extreme heat?
Thank you for your video.
Thank you so much Nick!! By chance I recently came across one of your foamgate videos on youtube. Otherwise I would still have no idea about the recall etc. I began cpap therapy four years ago and have used the dreamstation 1 machine all this time. I can’t believe nobody, including the company I bought the machine from, is not sending out warning letters to their customers!
Me either! You know they have all our information. I just happened to hear about it.
Same here no letter nothing I just registered mine yesterday on the website and I had on going issues since I’ve been using this machine I’m gonna talk to a lawyer about this
Thank you for an extremely informative video. You pretty much covered it all. Going to check with my pulmonologist to see if I should stop using my Dream Station. I sleep better than I ever have and I hate to give it up. But I have to weigh the effects of my sleep apnea to those of using a machine with the faulty foam. Thanks again for a great video. I subscribed.
I did it Nick!!! because of your great tutorial.. I took the black foam out of my Dreamstation 1!! I'm a 76 yr old woman... I requested a 'scrip from my Pulmonologist for another CPAP. I talked to a lovely local DME company who say the ResMed machines are back ordered. But I now feel much more comfortable while I wait for the new machine! Unfortunately I received a brand new Dreamstation from my current DME company and won't be able to obtain a new CPAP for 5 years. So I'm out of pocket for a ResMed ... worth it though.
Lanky Lefty sent me here! Good job! Thanks Nick! Subscriber now 😃
Hi Nick, thanks for doing the work for us. I like it that you are telling us what we need to hear and not what we want to hear. Man this whole thing is a mess. Keep it up.
Hey Jon, i think you summed this up nicely mate. I'm not trying to fill your head with fantasies! That's what facebook is for. I'm going to tell you what i think and if that resonates with you.. great! If it doesn't, no problem :-). Good luck man. Nick
@@CPAPReviews Hey Nick, quick question. I was about to open my old System One to check the foam. Then I saw the small black rectangular filter foam outside located at the back of the machine. That black foam filter is pretty tough. Is that the same foam you can find inside the chamber?
@@ketoasd That is an exterior filter that you should have been washing every week and replacing monthly. There should be a white fine particulate filter below it. These filter are sitting within the air intake.
I stopped using my machine and contacted my doctor. I worry about how much damage I have suffered before I found out about the recall
Nick.
Thank you very much for the Public Service Announcement.
this is a very serious problem....
Cheers and God Bless.
You're welcome mate. A lot has changed since then - ua-cam.com/video/plC1aUPbcdw/v-deo.html
Thank you for the information. I am in the States and just received a letter from my home medical equipment company about the recall. I have been expering nausea for the last three weeks all day long. I am begining to suspect that it has something to do with my Dream Station as that kind of nausea is not at all normal for me. Just contacted my doctor to see about next steps. I will not be using the Dream Station again and I will not be waiting a year for them to get their shit together. A class action lawsuit in the making it sounds like to me. My sleep apnea is moderate in nature so I can handle not using one for a little while until I get a new one, but I know a lot of people MUST have one to use, including some of my family. Philips can pay for my new machine.
Hi Michelle, thank you for the wonderful comment. I think you have made a very wise decision and i also enjoyed your empathy for those who still must use it even though they know it's dangerous and not good for their health. Thank you. Nicko
Well now. Me thinks Resmed might be rethinking their previous attacks when they receive statistics on customers switching over from their greatest competitor. A minor, questionable copyright infringement may turnout to be a downright silly complaint, on their part.
It's truly crazy how such a small part may be creating such a significant danger.
You're doing the work of a plucky hard-nosed detective, Nick. Hopefully people will understand that you do such things because you truly care about their health. It may not be causing overt issues for people but clearly sounds like a case of "better safe than sorry."
Godspeed!
I'm sure i will receive a lovely Christmas card from them this year. Thank you
@@CPAPReviews i can't go off my machine I have severe apnea. F..it i am going to get new machine Even if pay out of pocket
@@CPAPReviews ya.... and a lawsuit is years and years if ever
I had a horrible bacterial infection with a foamy phlegm. Headaches, dizziness, and agravated asthma. And two new heart medicines because of breathing issues. And an increased blood pressure. All since using the Dream station.
@@seawoods8886 I hear you. I am so sorry that you are having issues as well. Frustrating.
Damn man... I've used mine for like eight years
Insurance allows a new machine every 5 years...get a new machine.
15 years on them I’m very concerned !
Thanks for this informative info and for your time to educate us. I've been using my dreamstation for about 5yrs. I'm calling my Dr first thing in the morning.
Great information and great job on pronouncing the chemical names. A nurse at my GP told me three days ago that as long as you have the other filters in place, it was OK to use it. Wow!
Hey mate, thank you. Yeah unfortunately i hear this a lot. It's a classified as a class 1 recall by the FDA which is the most dangerous class of recall there is so certainly not safe to use. Cheers
Hi. I've just received the sixth communication from PR about my machine. Long story short they are taking one month to respond to each return of information to ask for the same information and a little more. They claimed back in June (1 year ago) that they had a machine ready for me. I am now told I have to return the SD card as they can't read the data dump I sent them. Estimate is another 8 to 10 weeks to get a replacement machine. Thank you for your instructions on removing the foam. I dodged a bullet by not having to use the old foam'ed machine when the hospital used Oxygen in my CPAP line during surgery. Owe you lots.
Dizzy and headaches for me. But without it I can’t sleep 🤷🏽♂️
Dizziness and headaches for me are now pretty much permanent.
Same here
I thought mines was from aneixty and med. I just wonder how these cpap has affect that the past year. I do sleep better but several months my anxiety seem to had increased and barely getting better now
Thank you Nick for sacrificing your Friday night for us in keeping us informed. Let’s hope that once all those that keeps saying it’s all ok I didn’t do this or that will finally take note. Thanks to you and this video, I was finally able to get a different machine. 🥰
(BTW Aussie Rules rocks! 😂)
I've started therapy in March , my Dreamstation was great , but my clinician made the recall for me and sent me a brand new ResMed AirSense 10 free of charge . Starting using the ResMed in a couple minutes , hope i'll like it !
I’m devastated at this news. I hope I don’t get cancer.
I'm sure you'll be fine Kerry but they're releasing more information on the dangers in the next few months so keep an eye out. Best wishes. Nick
if people do the repair they need to be very careful about using glue to plug the holes as glues give off toxic fumes as well
Best off with a proper machine instead of making modifications
This is true! Well played
Is cutting out the foam going to void any warranty that Philips might have on this?
I just received my dreamstation 2 from the recall but after watching this I’m apprehensive to even trust this unit. It would be great if you had a video or even suggest what would be good options for a different CPAP unit that I could purchase. Thanks for all the great info, this recall from the start has been one big mess. Not only does my health depend on using my CPAP but I’m a truck driver and my livelihood does as well.
Resmed Airsense 10 or 11
OMG!!! Thank you for your research and information I will never use again. God Bless You!
Hi Trish, you're welcome. I appreciate the support. Best wishes for the recall. Nick
I just discovered your channel. I appreciate what you're doing. This is very helpful information. Thanks for doing the research on this and sharing it. Your doing all of us CPAP users a valuable service for free. I am subscribing now.
Hi Rick, thanks for your support :-). Great to have you as a valued member of the channel. Best wishes. Nick
I have been very displeased with Phillips with all of this and am planning on moving away from the dream stations. Just some ideas: I would love to see some comparisons of options that are out there and also some coverage of the online stores that sell cpaps, though I know the latter varies by country and may be outside where you want to go. I really appreciate what you are doing here. I am both a user and a behavioral Sleep medicine provider (PhD clinical psychologist) and have found your info helpful both personally and professionally. At the very least this event will be helpful in getting me more up-to-speed on the non-Phillips offerings!
Hi there, amazing comment and i hear you 100%. It's a tricky one and i hope you understand. I really want my viewers to feel like this is an honest channel that truely reflects my own personal views and those of the viewers. Although i have certain products which i prefer i do try and come across as fairly neutral and just provide the specifications, features and feedback from the everyday customers like yourself. There's always a level of bias on every 'review' site and there is in this one too but it's well balanced and there's enough transparency for those who care to look. Best wishes and thanks for your insights. Nick :-)
@Jason B Not true at all.
I was afraid it would take a year to get the replacement for my machine but it arrived yesterday. It took about 2-3 months.
Nice one! Looks like you found a golden ticket ;-) ua-cam.com/video/b-S7ItBri-U/v-deo.html
We need to test every machine! Dude, you’ve got an audience that can pull together into a foundation to test air quality for all machines!
incredible... i called Philips when i received the recall email a year ago and was told "not to worry, your machine isn't affected and that its only causing headaches" i have continued using it until today when i went to pick up some new filters and was explained in detail of the issues... i have since found out that my machine is one that has been recalled (was told it wasnt a year ago) kind of freaked out now.. very informative video thank you.
Oh Man! I was one of those "I don't see any particles, I don't use Ozone cleaners etc." people, but I see now that I need to think long and hard about my future therapy. I too have been recently diagnosed with respiratory issues and I may now have an explanation where they originated from.
I do wonder though if the foam used by other CPAP machine manufacturers has similar problems. The new foam in the DS2 looks like an entirely different composition - it looks like it might to break down over time sending little white particles into the air-stream. Perhaps Philips need to re-design the casing so that it is easily opened and the foam easily replaced.
That's what I was thinking about, the new white foam is not durable at all... what if it breaks down in a few year's time? Will Philips issue some sort of 'time to change the foam' deadline when they replace the old casings ? 🤔
Omfg, thank you. I had lung issues straight after starting on my dreamstation. I put it down to my Asthma going bad and went in a preventative. Omg it was this machine from day 1. So f.... cross. How was that not done day 1 by Phillips and by our TGA
Hi Sandra, firstly, extremely sorry that you have had to deal with these medical issues. It's really not good enough and i imagine there's thousands of people just like you who are looking for the same answers. Best wishes for the future. Nick
Same - daily inhalers, pills, nasal spray....never had any issues but weight until my Dream Station...
Same here, inhalers, allergy medicine and so many vitamins. Getting a CT on my lungs. I can’t believe this happened.
Me as well ! Ongoing sinus congestion symptoms. My EENT -a jerk- said it’s not chronic sinusitis, it’s allergic rhinitis. My Symptoms do not match in any way. Pulmonologist blew me off to the EENT 😡or my primary! Hate the medical system. Retired RN here
A big Thank You from Florida, USA!!
Thank you for doing all these. Love that you speaks your truth from your experience with CPAP.
Thanks brother. Love the support. Nick
Well done, thank you for the information. I will be looking at a different brand now.
Hi David, if it was a well organised recall with adequate information and a quick turnaround time then i would have no problems in recommending the brand. The truth is that this recall has been an absolute joke! No information, no time frame and very poorly managed. They don't deserve your business and i don't think they even care if they loose your business! Move on brother. Nick
@@CPAPReviews thank you Nick for the valuable information.. just got my ResMed, i hope i’ll have a great experience tonight
@@CPAPReviews Between my dr, the center that distributed my machine and philips...it is a complete joke...almost as bad a joke as the last election...lol
Just got letter mandatory recall in Canada. They said immediately stop using. My problem is without it, I will get a major headache in morning. I have moderate sleep apnea.
I havent seen a letter yet.
@@AnalogX64 I got the letter from Coastal Sleep where I purchased the unit.
much thanks, i appreacite your time.
you're very welcome. Thanks for your comment. Nick
You just answered my question. No more Phillips. Thank you so very very much.
Thank you mate!
I am putting my DreamStation back in the case. And will demand my money back, and go buy a new machine that’s NOT Philips
I appreciate you looking out for all our health, big Corporations don’t give a crap about us, this is like TAKATA Airbag recalls, it’s going to take forever and people are going to pay the price! 😎👍
Hey man, you will always get a much better response from a business if you don't 'demand' something. Just have the information, be polite and present it to them in a reasonable manner. Most companies will respond well but if they don't then you can go crazy haha. Good luck brother. Let me know how you go. Nick
I replaced my Phillips machine a few months ago, thankfully with a different brand. Nothing to do with this issue; it was just time to replace it. During the time I was using it I developed progressively worsening breathing problems and was diagnosed with COPD. I’ve never smoked a cigarette in my life. Since replacement my breathing has dramatically improved. I didn’t make any connection until now.
Which CPAP machine are you using now if you don't mind me asking?
@@darkdeepdepressed Resmed
Thanks Nick! I am performing Surgery on my DS 1 today! What a tremendous mess. I agree that this will take a year - Best Regards from Cleveland, Ohio
What did you use to close the hole back up? Afraid it will also be toxic. Adhesiver? Foil? Eek.
I use the DreamStation as a patient with sleep apnea. Went to my annual appointment with the sleep center, the nurse practitioner asked me if I used "So Clean" with my unit. I don't, and said so. Apparently the "So Clean" devices weren't on the market at the time the DreamStations were designed and distributed. It's my understanding that the "So Clean" procedure does something to the foam inside the Dream Station. They asked me if I was getting black particles from the disintegrating foam. I said No. They advised me to avoid using the "So Clean" product, continue using it like normal, and get back to them if anything was wrong.
Hi there, unfortunately the information you have been provided with is somewhat incorrect. Although the SoClean and other sterilizing devices that use ozone can increase the rate of degradation, lab analysis also shows heat and humidity also cause it and there's many thousands of people who have never used a SoClean that have experienced issues. On top this, regardless of the foam degradation, lab analysis also shows that from the very first day the foam 'off gases' toxic chemicals outside the 'safe range'. There's a lot of misinformation out there. Good luck
SoClean came out 2011!,
Thanks for this! In reading the comments, it's just scary to see how many of us have mystery symptoms. For the last 9 months I've been suffering with health issues that three doctors so far have not been able to find the cause of. Two more specialists scheduled in the coming month. (Sinus issues, congestion, excessive thick, sticky mucus in throat, frequent headaches, occasional coughing, dizziness, fatigue. I've also had idiopathic chronic hives for 2 years, and I can't help but wonder if that's related as well.)
I only found out about this because the place I bought my machine sent me a notice - My pulmonologist has provided no information, and when calling he told me I have no choice but to keep using the machine as my apnea is severe (Unless I want to purchase a new machine out of pocket right now, which I cannot.) My husband had an old RemStar machine that's *supposedly* not affected by the recall, so I've been using that for the last month or so. No issues with dizziness anymore, and I've been coughing less at night. The other issues haven't ceased, unfortunately.
I developed eczema about a year ago w/o warning. I have a sore throat every morning. Now I guess I know why.
@@sandys.1891 So sorry to hear you had to go through this . How is your health these days ?
Unbelievably sketchy. I used mine for over 6 years. I've also experienced a number of the symptoms, but I don't know if it's coincidental or not.
I've had nasal congestion and sinus pressure lately I wondered what was going on
From Canada: My RRT said to not worry about it. What concerns me is that Philips doesn't say 'stop using your machine'. Here their emails (forwarded from RRT) say 'consult your doctor' or some such. Well, like many Canadians I don't have a primary care physician. And to even get a referral to see a sleep specialist, then wait in queue for one's appointment, it typically takes 3-6 weeks to see the doctor, then another 3-4months to see the specialist. I moved provinces and am in the slow process of finding an MD taking new patients, at least one who isn't fresh out of medical school/'off the boat'.
I called Philips a month or so after registering and asked whether they received my online form. They have, but they are waiting for Canada's FDA to make a decision on what they have to do to correct the weakness of the machine.
So, we are in the dark. Stop using, continue using, modify, what? I don't understand why Philips isn't just sending everyone a replacement. Wouldn't that be good will and also reduce the likelihood of them being sued?
I was using that machine for 2 year and I had all the symptoms that you have mentioned. I stopped using it. Thanks for your honesty.
Hi Maria, i would join a class action if i was you! There's lots of them already. Sorry to hear about your problems. Nick
Why are they even designing these casings with air running through the foam?? That is a HUGE design flaw. If they’d simply sealed it, this wouldn’t be an issue.
Yes it certainly is. Thank you
The foam is for noise reduction.
If they sealed it, the noise will bounce off the plastic wall and out to your ears - the sound waves need to directly hit the foam
As I’m watching this I get a Phillips add talking about the recall on their machines 🤦🏻♀️
Feels like their panicking. As well they should be.
Good luck to everyone. Especially those with new cancer diagnosis. Stay strong.
Hi Laura, oh really?! Yeah i think their lawyers have probably told them they need to get proactive otherwise they will look negligent (which they are). Best wishes. Nick
Hello & Thank you Nick from Toronto, Ontario Canada.
Great video straight forward and bang on accurate.
Bravo from all CPAP patients worldwide.