Novix HELO - FULL Review
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Well perfection has finally come! The new for 2021 Novix HELO has arrived!
In Novix HELO - FULL Review I finally get a chance to review this tree stand.
Ive had this stand for about 2.5 weeks before I decided to get a review out and let me tell you what, ITS AWESOME! Great price, great weight and great quality.
I think this is one of the best values in mobile hunting right now and if I was new to mobile hunting this is the stand I would buy.
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The lone wolf hook strap made hanging the stand so easy. Not an all day stand but nice to get into the hard to reach areas and especially nice when you're not lucky enough to find that perfect tree. Still have my lone wolf from the 90's mint condition so nice to hang.
Them old lone wolfs are timeless stands!!
I've been hanging stands for 35+ years. If a stand isn't designed with an attachment bracket to go with it, I will no longer buy it. You attach the bracket, pull up the stand with your pull rope, slip the stand in the bracket, and your hands are free to attached the standard two straps as back up. So far I have 5 stands with attachment brackets, & I will never go back to buying a stand that doesn't have them. Your stands look well made (American product). Incorporate an affordable attachment bracket into these stands, & they would be great! LIfe lines and attachment brackets for hanging stands have been my best hunting investment in recent years.
I believe all of these stands are able to use the lone wolf EZ hang bracket but let me confirm!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors does it work with the Helo?
Yes they have a slot cut out in the back @mMillz
“It’s comfortable. I can see myself all day sitting in this tree stand with no problem.” ...and THAT is part of the Lone Wolf/Novix niche. If a guy stands mostly, sure, then the larger Novix/Lone Wolf seat, (the same seat for all their hang on stands), might be a little in the way. And right now the Helo seat is too big for us that simply can’t wrap our head around why it isn’t even 1.5 lb lighter than the Assault 2. Well, as you said, the Helo platform is a bit thicker in spots, and I’m sure it’s for good reason. Anyhow, take it from a guy who owned a couple of the old Assaults. Yes, they were lighter, but I may have told you the reason I had two of them was that my buddy sold me his after telling me that sitting in it was like “sitting on a waffle iron.” So yes, the larger seat is definitely more comfortable. Oh, and am I the only guy who appreciates the extra depth of the seat so I can turn up to 90* to either side? Thankfully the cables help keep me on the platform lol, but I couldn’t do that on my old Millennium M7 Micro for the design of the seat, and you can’t really do that on the little OOAL Hush or on a LWCG .5 because the seats are so small. While I can see how some might say the Assault 2 is simply Goldilocks, I agree with you. The little added width in the back probably isn’t worth the extra cash. Again, the cables help keep you on the platform. Great comparison and review! Think I’ll be really happy with mine. 12/23
EDIT: sold my Helo as I said in my more recent comment (as well as my Echo) and bought one of the last available Lone Wolf Assault 2’s. My 2 cents is that while the Helo may be the perfect size for ladies, it’s a little too narrow to allow sitting facing to either side, or for average to larger size men’s boots. So why have such a big seat, anyhow, if you don’t have room for your boots when you want to turn 45* or more to either side? So since Lone Wolf is out of business, if you don’t mind a stand made in china, as far as I know, the XOP Vanish Evolution is really the only comparable cast aluminum stand to my Lone Wolf Assault 2 in terms of specs and affordability.
Hey man! Thank for that background info on the old assaults! I love hearing about old stands and the history of them. Glad you enjoyed the video and I hope you have a great season in your helo!
9/5/21 and the code still worked! REALLY appreciate that. I got the Helo and the standard size sticks. $390, inclusive of $25 shipping costs.
Thats awesome!
I just sat in mine this morning, nice stand needs a better seat
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors How did you feel about the size of the platform? I’m slightly hesitant about the 16”. Wish they had an 18”. Wondering if I should get the echo instead.
Any luck this morning???
@@scottrockett6382 I like it but I also own a .5 stand which is very similar. I think the platform is plenty gracious for all day sits. Very comfortable stand in my opinion!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Truly appreciate this!
Very excited about this review! I was hoping you’d review it. After a month of research I ordered the helo just yesterday haha after this review I’m even more excited to get it. Thanks
Thanks man! It was honestly an easy video to make. Novix made an absolutely awesome stand. Let me know what u think of it when u get it!
Agree packability is just as important as weight for me.
Absolutely, specially climbing up and around limbs too with it on your back!
I agree with you about the weight. I don’t think you can get much lighter with the cast aluminum stands. They’re right at the happy medium with platform size seat size and weight. If someone wants something lighter they probably need to go with a different material.
Yeah, I agree. One thing I forgot to mention is how in all of Novix social media they emphasized safety. Kinda makes me believe they are leaning tword safety first which is #1 in my book. If you want ultra-lightweight u gotta pay to play! 😂
Man was excited after hearing these prices being in line with XOP that I was planning to get but now they are up to $360
They have sales. gotta keep an eye out for them.
Fantastic review! As You always do! Thats a heck of a great stand at any price, and the price they have it at just makes it that much better!
yeah the price was amazing as specially with the 15% discount! Thanks for the comment Jason!
Pulled the trigger this morning! Thanks for the awesome review!!🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Its awesome man!! Goodluck to you!
The helo is a great little stand but for all day comfort I need something longer than 26". As you get older you're not gonna want to tuck your knees underneath your legs all day. It would be nice if they made a stand that is longer and still nice and light. The beast stand is but they have a spongy feel to them
Well L.w.cg just came out with the .75 has a 27" platform and u can get it in different size options for the seat post height. Reall can customize it to your body now.
Really enjoy your reviews because I am also a big guy that needs to loose a few before hunting season gets here. So I can feel you there.
Hahaha, Im in the process now of trying to lose some. Cutting down on beer and carbs is helping!!
Thanks to you after watching your review on the d bl step trophyline mini sticks I bought them .they came in less then a week .now I'm ordering this novix stand.thanks for your straight forward honest review
Thanks, Thats awesome. I dont think you will be disappointed. Its a solid stand forsure! Thanks for watching!
Your reviews of gear are among the best I've ever watched. I got mine for 204.00 to my door too, and I'm glad I pulled the trigger on it. I have the lwcg 1.0 and the .5 but the Helo is a really really good stand even at their full price. Worth every penny
Thanks, I appreciate that! You got all 3? Your setup for success! Good luck to you!
Which one do you like the most? What is the difference in real world weight between them?
@@dionysis84 the .5 is crazy light 6.5# it's small but perfect for what it's for. These are hunt ready weights with backpack straps. The 1.0 is 9.5# and the Helo came in at 10.8# if i could only have one for every kind of Run n Gun hunt you could throw at it including all day hunts it'd hands down be the 1.0 cuz of the little roomier platform,seat, and how light it still is. Having said that I've never sat in the Beast stand and I look for Dan and Andrae both to release new stands this coming year. For me i think the best platform size would be 18"x 27"
Was going to get one but honestly I can’t all day sit in the alpha let alone that thing, only stand I could ever all day sit in was a summit viper. Comfiest stand ever made
I do wish they had better seats
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors yea I take a foam cushion when I use the alpha on top of that original seat. I’m just not crazy about heights. And idk about having my feet sticking over the edge
The problem with my Helo is one I didn’t have a foot or two off the ground, but I expected the shock of how narrow the spot I step on from my top climbing stick to wear off by now. (Unfortunately I waited like 3 days too long to send it back.) I get up there and keep thinking of how I’m going to be stepping between cables onto this little bitty triangle in the dark. I had a couple of the old Assaults years ago and never gave it any thought. And the guy on the phone with Novix just told me what they told me last year, that my Echo only weighs 11.5 lbs, only half a pound more than the Assault 2, as well as confirming that the Helo weighs only a pound less than the Assault 2. My scale tells me my Echo is closer to 14 lbs but I digress. What I have a hard time understanding is why I ordered a stand that’s over 3 inches narrower than the tried and true Assault 2 to save myself from toting a pound more. Please no comments about my intelligence. I already feel kind of dumb, but am I missing something else?
You should be able to easily sell this stand on Facebook market place, sounds like you need a bigger platform. Assault 2 or the Novix Echo which you have. My Echo is 11.5 lbs
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I hope so. Don’t think my Echo is quite that light but I haven’t taken the footrests and seat cushion off to confirm yet. I’m debating trying to order a Millennium seat for it from the guy you bought yours from if he’s still selling them. I’ll definitely be checking apples to apples once I have all three stands to compare. The Assault is supposed to come in tomorrow. I’m not a big guy, but there’s just something that looks and feels right with the 19.5” platform. That’s about the size of all I’ve ever used, come to think about it, even stands other than Lone Wolfs and Summits. Never hunted off one of the little Loc-ons. They were a little even before my time....so I guess the most narrow platform I’ve ever hunted from is an Ole Man, which is 18”. That didn’t feel that narrow, though, since it was a climber and the platform was so long. I don’t wear a saddle, either, and I assume that would add a bit of security.
Glad I found your channel! Great no BS reviews. This is now my next stand purchase!
Thanks for the kind words 👊
Nice and fair review😎. I hunted out of the Echo all of last season and loved it. Great to see Novix came out with a smaller platform.
Yeah me too! I bet they will sell a lot! Thanks for watching
Sweet thanks for this video. I have a helo ordered an there are no good rewies out there. Btw the promo code worked for me less than a week ago. Really liking you're in depth reviews
Awesome man!! Glad it was helpful. Im very excited about this stand! Selling my hush a d running this one with my .5 this year forsure!
Couldn't agree more with everything you said! Size wise its a homerun
Yes sir! Really an awesome stand!
Great video. You should see if Novix will put a discount code on this video since they raised their prices over $100 since the video was made.
*people stop buying $900 tree stands and prices will come down, they are making 75% profit off of the hunting community they don’t cost that much to make.
prices are getting out of hand for sure.
Well that's Brandon's America bub.
I just hope they will drop a smaller seat option for it.
Smaller seat would make it amazing, IMO I dont need a seat that big for how I hunt.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors the smaller seat is one of my favorite things about the Hush. I really liked my Vanish Evo but hated how big the seat was
@@charlesgholson4451 novix says there isn't enough demand...everyone needs to start messaging them
I could cut my vanish evo stands seat in half length wise and width and it’d be perfect imo ! Can’t stand how big they make the damn seats on these loc ons ! Like wtf!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors
Great videos, just subscribed. What is your favorite stand? Not necessarily any of these
I’m going to go ahead and peel off some cash. I have to own one of these now. Great review. Lone wolf makes some good gear.
Its an awesome stand. They definitely nailed this one!!
If weight is a serious issue for some guys you could put a LWCG mesh seat on it.
I have a mesh seat on my ECHO
I have the echo and climbing sticks and love them, def thinking about an helo and mini sticks.
Got them for $415 to the door.
Yeah, Just ordered the halo with the mini sticks with the MWW21 code got them to the door for $388.48 can’t beat that.
Thats such an awesome deal man!!
“So that’s probably how they cut out some of the weight…” who woulda thought! 😂
Made it smaller.
Great review! I really like my Helo, it's just too humid down here to even think about shooting a review video.
Dude, I was soaked in sweat making mine 😂
Yes they should make the seat smaller be lighter
Yeah, I told the owner of Novix. He seemed not interested in doing it anytime soon.
The only problem is that the helo is the same weight as the original assault but helo is much smaller -the assault 2 was beefed up for no reason what so ever believe it was done around 2010
Yeah, it will be interesting to see what Andrae does now that he fully owns Lone Wolf again. Ive heard rumblings about them doing cast stands again.
Love the looks of this stand. Trying to talk myself into this over the .5 lwcg for my long hikes and super thick areas where you need something small and won't be going as high... ughhh. I can get this one at least a week faster as well
I running them both this year man, .5 for precision strikes and Helo for all day sits!!
How sketchy is the .5 when you are up in the tree? That platform doesn't look like you have much room! That is my only fear of getting it. Also does the weight check out as advertised? That is a decent amount of difference in weight savings over the helo if legit but I'm not a fan of a super super small platform when I'm 20' or more up
Ill be honest its tiny as he*l but I its big enough for me. Your not up there doing a tap dance lol, I can see alot of guys not liking it for this reason but I think the smaller size and obvious weight its totally worth it for true run n gun hunting. Ive probably walked 20-25 miles with this stand on my back this season already. Makes u so much more efficient specially in swamps. Cut out a cardboard cut out of the platform and stand on it and see if it works for u. Also the seat is tiny too lol. I was in mine for 4 hours tonight stoood the whole time. Good luck
Great review, I am looking for my first hang on and thinking of going with the echo only because of the larger platform, although the helo looks very tempting. I think I would go with the mini sticks just so I can walk through without catching on to anything. Thanks again for the review. Any promo code would be greatly appreciated.
did you end up getting the ECHO?
I was dead set on a saddle, but you’re tempting me with this. Season starts the 10th so my indecisiveness needs to get out of here ASAP 😂
Dude, nothing gonna be in stock man. You cant wait LOL. I think Novix is behind like 2-3 weeks.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Yeah, I’m totally screwed 😂 Every night I think I’m set on something and I wake up the next day with a new idea. I definitely prefer a hang on, but I know the first time I’m going half a mile straight up a 500 ft elevation gain on a mountain in the dark I’d be cussing myself out for not getting a saddle lol
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I found 16 Wild Edge steps for $40 on marketplace last night so I just went with the saddle (Trophyline to avoid the wait times) to stick with the no bulk theme. Absolute deal of my life right there. I could sell half of them and easily double my investment lol
Luv your reviews!!! I’m totally in a spot with choosing a setup. I really had decided about a year ago to get into saddle hunting/mobile hang n hunt after hunting out of a summit viper lite for 20yrs. I’ve just gotten to point where I find myself needing and wanting more then my climber can provide and ease of walking through woods will out weigh comfort. I’ve kinda narrowed it down to helo, xop vanish evo, lwcg .75, lwcg .5. Now last year helo stood above the rest for combo of weight and cost it was no brainer!!! Well I dragged my feet getting saddle and stick setup 1st but cuz of that now the helo has raised in price to $330. Now things become harder to decide upon. Is the extra $200 worth it for the lwcg now. $300’s kinda of a threshold for me where I say is it worth the extra money to jump up? At $240 there’s no question to me the choice. The .75 is almost an exact comparison of helo just machined and the .5 is kind of in a world of its own.
Yeah man I feel your pain. I will say without hesitation that the L.W.C.G equipment is superior to everything on the market, buy once cry once is the saying, but its also a tuff pill to swallow. Them raising there prices (novix) really sucks. I just got the .75 and I think its the ultimate stand. It meets all the criteria I need. The .5 is my go to stand for short hunts, less than 6 hours.
best stand for the money
Its a solid option for sure!
Great review. If I wasn’t in a saddle I’d buy this stand. Still might lol.
Use a saddle in it!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I’m using a one-stick with a built in platform but it’s tempting! I miss being able to just sit (or stand) with my back right up to the tree
Thanks for posting. Im a big guy too and went xop. Not sure I made the right choice.
I prefer made in the USA when I can but some guys love the XOP stuff.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors love my country. Bled for it and will die for it. Its a capitalistic Society. I mean that's what we're fighting for a right that's what we're dying for white that's what we're country's all about since 1774 1776 Revolution it's all about capitalism right. So if a company makes a better product even though it's not made here but it's Superior I think I'm going to buy it. American workers of hit that X generation, lazy and slow
Thank you for your service!
I ordered this stand and the mini double step sticks a few days ago. I've been running the Lone wolf assualt and xop sticks, this should save some weight and smaller profile.
Heck yeah it will, Im gonna pair it with my Trophyline minis or my home made beast sticks!
How did you go about attaching the sticks to the frame? I want to order this and have been curious about using the lonewolf stick quiver
@@vwrFEW I lay the sticks down and use the strap to tighten them down. I've also used bungies to help keep them tight
Great review Jayce. Looks like Novix nailed it down. I'm not a lock on guy at all but your review is sorely temping me to try it and have as an option in the arsenal. The price point boggles my mind. How are they even making money?
Thanks! My guess is volume. They make an extremely good stand at an affordable price and sell thousands probably.
Dang it man, with the new backpack I'm thinking of going back to a hang on and this might be the ticket...with that said you are going to make me go broke 😂
You and me both hahaha, credit card is looking ruff right now 🤣
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors 😂😂
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors you are a bad influence, I just ordered the Helo
It seems when the reviews on this stand were made the price was WAY lower. What would you say would work out with stands that compete with this one, when it comes to its new 340$ price tag?
yeah they really blew the price up.... Sad man
I have the helo and love it. I was wondering what the purpose of the notch or slit is supposed to be for on the platform of the stand. One side has a cut in it while the other side does not. Let me know what you think.
Its supposed to be for a press in LOGO that never was developed I guess....
Great review as always. I bought mine the first day they became available. I think it's a winner for sure.
Yeah they really did a great job on this one! Pefection takes time!!
Curious if you may have added or know anyone that has added the foot rest to the helo? I have the helo and just ordered the foot rest. I know the platform does not have the predrilled holes but I’m going to try and install them. Was just looking around to see if anyone has already done that and how it worked.
I have not saw anyone do that yet.
Great review. I’m 6’ 250 so this helped me decide being able to see you on it. Ordered one today
Good luck man!! I love mine im 511 260
Nice review man! Definitely a sweet stand.
Thanks buddy! Appreciate you.
Love my helo
Helo is a solid option! I still have mine!
@MichiganGreatOutdoors I picked mine up for 100$ fully tricked out , all covered in stealth strips and power chord wrapped got a absolute deal on the stand. Little bit heavy but it's still a ten pound set , solid option and for 100$ can't beat it .
I like the review, very informative. Could you please tell me what the seat height is?
21" seat post
Do you think the Helo is light enough to strap on the back of a backpack if there are 2/3 horizontal compression straps? Thinking about selling gear to purchase this stand. I think I would rather attach my sticks to the bottom of a pack instead of to the stand and also compress the stand on the pack. Thoughts?
I think its possible if you have the right pack, say like a kifaru or something built to handle a load. Dont wanna rip your pack up.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors gotcha, sounds good. I have a sturdy Alp Traverse EPS.
Can the Novix Mini sticks stack onto the platform? If not, what about on the other stands?
Yes all of the novix sticks will nest on the upright post.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors any chance you could post a pic?
Sorry man, I don't have them sticks anymore. I bet you could google this or go on the mobile hunting forums on Facebook and find some pics.
I just can’t see reducing the size that much for one pound.
Yeah, it's a good point but sometimes a really small platform is helpful when hunting tiny trees that have lots of limbs. Certainly this stand is not for everyone!!
That code still works 💪
What’s the code
@@IN_Bowhunter man that was a week ago when I watched it. I'd have to watch it again. It's in the video.
So how did the new novix stand work for you this past season
To be totally honest with you, I didnt get a chance to run it. It was gonna be my rut stand all day sitter but I got Covid and missed the whole rut. When I came back in December I just saddle hunted.
I see sorry you miss it but I didn’t fill my tag this year but I have a climber thinking about getting a hang on just wondering about it because it is light thanks
@@mikebaker1044 I have a buddy who ran it all season and really liked it. I did run it in Kentucky in September and enjoyed using it. Very comfortable and spacious for me. Im used to hunting out of the very small lwcg .5 stand.
Great video buddy
Thanks man! Appreciate it!
Someone just getting in to mobile hunting on public land Wich one would you recommend the echo or the Helo
The helo, the echo is massive. You could mobile hunt with either honestly but the helo is better versed for true mobile hunting. Just make sure the smaller platform you can live with. Send me a message on Facebook or Instagram if you have anymore questions. Merry Christmas!
Thank you so much Merry Christmas
Great review
Thank you, best of luck on the Range!!
Man I’m trying to buy one now ! Where can I buy one for $2-220$ ???? I’m in louisiana
Maybe in Facebook marketplace
I’ll check it out thanks
Hey buddy what is the seat height? Do you still like the stand? I am seriously considering buying this today!!! Great channel!
Seat height is 21" yes I like mine still. I plan to hunt out of it this season.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors awesome thanks for the quick response! Have a great season!
@@fishingwithphil2582 you too man!!
Hey what backpack straps you running on the novix helo?
The lwcg ones, I aslo have molle 2 I could use.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors thanks if you had to chose witch ones?
That’s awesome
It sure is an awesome little stand!
Just paid 340, thanks 2022
Yup, the price now sucks. I got another helo on sale recently for under $300
Is the stand platform as sturdy as the lw assault?
Oh yeah, maybe even a little stiffer IMO.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors thanks for the replies, really enjoying the reviews!
Thanks man!
Is this your Bush! You king of the forest ? HUH!!!!
Its your special bush!!
I wish we new it was coming out 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
What u mean?
Cheaper then beast stand, wish I knew it was coming out
@@Tankbuilder32 oh man, they kinda suprized everone with it!
Great review! Purchased my Novix Helo yesterday (12-20-21) and the coupon code MWW21 still works! Thanks so much! Can't wait to get it and hunt
Awesome man! Good luck!!
Have you hunted out of this stand yet?
Yes. Several times
Thanks, are they just as good as the Lone Wolf Alpha?
@@168smk5 yes, almost same design
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors are you able to use it like a backpack with the seat able to support weight? Similar to the lone wolf models? Looking for a stand that is able to with out having to modify it and ruin a warranty
Nicely done my friend!!
Thanks man!!