Thanks for the review. I purchased the Panther quick climb. It is a direct competitor to this system The Panther is lighter, around 6 pounds. The thing that holds your feet in is a permanent metal bar that is very stable holding your feet in place. There is also no rattle and it cams in about the same way. You can climb trees with limbs as you just sit off to the side in your saddle just like you would do when moving a stick if you were one sticking. Just so you know, I am 70yrs old and in good shape. I can climb super easy with absolutely no problems. One thing I would suggest is if you are using this, rappelling is the best way to ascend and descend. One other thing, the Panther quick climb is 100% American designed and made in Indiana.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors panther is def more stout and more quiet. Osprey wins for packability. I will run Panther in areas where I kinda know what I’m walking into and know where I’m setting up according to wind etc.. Osprey for free styling .. going into new area. Great review! The dudes at Osprey are good fellas same at Panther.👊🏽💥
Still use a lone wolf handclimber platform most of the time with my saddle. Works well in my area. About 7.5lbs with the saddle. Can go around branches just like one sticking. Cool to see other options. It doesn't have the stabilizer between the bars either. No issues.
The whole marketing scheme behind saddles was that they were better than climbers because they could get in any tree (didn’t need a telephone pole) and lighter than hang ons. Now they’re just making climbing saddle platforms so you’re back to telephone trees. Hunters literally go full circle chasing the “latest and greatest” lol
@bobamerican755 I mean maybe... I think these are being created because people wanted them and asked for them. And none of the major saddle companies have done it.It's all these new, independent companies.
I think hunters needs vary depending on their location. I’m in Northeastern Ohio (go Buckeyes) and there are no shortage of straight trees. I also have really bad knees and this might be my thing. Just a thought.
We moved to saddle hunting to be able to hide behind the tree and shoot 360. You can't hunt from a saddle in any tree: when you have a lot of branches, a hang on treestand is superior as it is very well documented by Dan Infalt.
It is all relative: how much did you pay for your saddle when you get 95% of the same features and comfort from a climbing harness and a sit drag for under $100? - bringing such product to market was a wild dream for us, but it isn't cheap. We appreciate your interest in the video!
@@ospreyoutdoors2225I can go in any damn tree I want and can imagine with my setup I can only hunt the Powerline poles with that chunk of junk. I run a hybrid stand and also a ROS. I remember starting out with a climber. But the past is the past nobody uses vhs no more
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Id just leave it the way it is. When I use my viper I basically stand the entire time during bow season and have never had any issue, though I do make sure Im keeping my weight out enough for the leverage. Id just lose the ability to leverage the platform to swing around the tree but I dont typically do that anyway
I ordered a broadside stand. I reviewed the trees I’ve killed deer from over prior 5yr before I bought it. I decided it’s the most versatile option. I like it because 1. unlimited size no in-between issues. 2. Very large stand alone platform. 3. Ropes for the attachment ‘cable’ which to me is easily replaceable (thinking very long term) using quality climbing ropes in the future that are inexpensive 4. Use it for a climber, OR, add a multi step aider and one stick with it on limby trees if you have to (videos on one sticking with platform), I hate one-sticking though, 5. go around branches easily with a multi step aider on it, 6. I’ve tried everything else for run and gun and climbing platform just makes the most sense since the saddle, a multi step aider, and some know how Eliminates 90% if not 100% of the reasons most people got away from climbers in the first place. To me, it’s the most versatile option.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I wish I had! It hasn’t come in yet hopefully in the next couple weeks I’m told. I borrowed an old school climber platform, it’s huge ~37x26” (super light for size only 9lb ), but i bummed it to test the concept for free, and I very much like it. It’s very efficient, very safe and comfortable, and I could stop and shoot a deer at any point during the climb if I needed to which I really like. For me that bummed one is about 9 min to 15 ft from when I walk up to the tree. Other things are twice that long for me. I think broadside will be no more noise than setting a climbing stick from no moving parts. Maybe the teeth will scrape the tree, but it shouldn’t make much noise from that with some well placed stealth strips. The panther platforms guys have videos showing them using a multi step aider on thiers for reference. I intend to do something like that with the broadside. Probably mounted in the center of the platform so it’s close to the tree. I’m exited to get it for sure.
Just got the latitude lonestar saddle yesterday from jays sporting goods couples with a tetherd mvp backband wowsers it is one comfortable saddle .....big buck better be careful this year..... ..
Any fat guy! I got excited about your thumbnail pic and initial thoughts, I’m a skinny guy, but your honest review definitely let me know this product is not for me
Thats the whole purpose of this channel!!! Im glad it was helpful. Im not totatly convinced this is for me yet either, I plan to take it hunting at least once to see but im worried about how much noise it makes, with a hand climber you have so much more control to be quiet. This not so much....
i knew i should have patented something like this. I just took a climbing stand bottom and have been using that. its a little too big but it works pretty well. might check this one out, as it fits the bill better!
The cable system interferes with pivoting to the sides of the platform. Not that that set up would be able to handle side pressure anyway. Not being able to pivot around a tree with a saddle is a huge disadvantage.
I own the Barron Ridge and there is no reason to have a stand-off and post. Just a strap at hunting height. Also, Mine has a bungee for your feet and paracord with a light carabiner to keep it from sliding down the tree while going up. Also, the Barron Ridge you use one foot against the tree and one foot in the platform to climb and it has a stabilizer bar and is extremely solid with no jiggling parts.
So more or less a tethered or helium with a cable.. Hmmm I might have to do some engineering.. Thx brother. Got your ears lowered I see .. Lookin sharp .
I say for about $150 I’d go for it- consider for $300 you can get a climber from summit and it’s essentially the same with a bigger platform and a seat
If you want to be able to use the trunk to hide, you can't use the climber seat and the lean ascent post will provide a lot of additional stability. If you don't need to hide behind the trunk or shoot 360, the climber works great. That's from where we are coming from.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors $300 for a summit viper climbing stand- larger platform and full seat- and made in America- that’s why I’d say $150- half the price for half of the product . It may be a great product. However, like a lot of things nowadays, I don’t understand the pricing.
I have been waiting for companies to combine climbing with saddles and I'm waiting for all the kinks to iron out. Then i see the "recall master's" at Tethrd make a new platform that angles down. Like towards the fu@!in ground. All the gimmicks coming out to play
@SavagelandHunting Yeah, it's often a good strategy to wait for the second generation models of everything in mobile hunting these days. There's really only one company that comes to mind that doesn't have these sort of flunders on launch.
Man... the more I think about it you might be right... I was kinda blinded by the fact that with this setup you don't have to buy sticks, however, this is made in china so it is cheaper to make, plus you have to assemble a portion of it. So yeah that price makes a lot more sense now to think about it in that way.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors can buy the whole lone wolf climbing setup for $250 used. That is why they are so popular in the saddle groups. Zip up the tree and zip down with my Madrock
So $400 for this climbing piece, say $250 mid range saddle, $50 tether rope, $100 for repel line $20 figure8/$85 for madrock, $20 quick link. $900ish for a set up +/- a few dollars depending on your equipment choices and you are still limited in what tree your climbing? For that kinda $$$ I’m buying a new LWCG climbing stand for a couple hundred more as it’s fairly light and compact and there’s not really a learning curve. For me saddle hunting is for a compact system that allows me to get basically in any tree anywhere. Great thorough review of a cool product I just don’t understand the use of these when your using a saddle. Again great non biased review some good some bad and that’s very important when making $$$ decisions!!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors ya that’s always a good place to find them. I’ve had my issues with repelling so I no longer do it much. I LUV doing it and think it’s safest way down from tree. My issue is I’ve had my quick link on 3 separate times get hung up and have to climb back up and retrieve it. PAIN in the azz!!!!! I do one stick occasionally when I’m in a known tree, straight and with no branches but now I just use 99% of the time a good stick setup. 8 min from ground to hunting height and ready to go. Slightly slower coming down but got my system down and that’s mostly important no matter what climbing system you’re using. This product review might be perfect choice for some for me I can’t imagine the benefits of it but it’s not my system.
Nice review, but these climbing bases are crazy expensive. I use my lone wolf base that I cut down and now it is 19.5 inches by 20 inches and weighs 9 pounds, it may be heavy by todays standards for a platform, but I will sacrifice the weight for comfort. It's amusing to me when I see saddle hunters spending hundreds of dollars to shave a pound or two off their carry in weight, when most of us could shed 10 or 20 pounds by having a few less beers and chicken wings.
I like the simple light weight mobility of it. I'd call that a good versatility option.👍
Agreed!
Thanks for the review. I purchased the Panther quick climb. It is a direct competitor to this system The Panther is lighter, around 6 pounds. The thing that holds your feet in is a permanent metal bar that is very stable holding your feet in place. There is also no rattle and it cams in about the same way. You can climb trees with limbs as you just sit off to the side in your saddle just like you would do when moving a stick if you were one sticking. Just so you know, I am 70yrs old and in good shape. I can climb super easy with absolutely no problems. One thing I would suggest is if you are using this, rappelling is the best way to ascend and descend. One other thing, the Panther quick climb is 100% American designed and made in Indiana.
Thanks for sharing! I want to try the Panther quick climb next! It looks like it might be the quieter option.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors panther is def more stout and more quiet. Osprey wins for packability.
I will run Panther in areas where I kinda know what I’m walking into and know where I’m setting up according to wind etc..
Osprey for free styling .. going into new area.
Great review!
The dudes at Osprey are good fellas same at Panther.👊🏽💥
@@Latituderanch dang u got both???
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors yea man! You wanna review the Panther? I’ll ship it to ya! Just send it back lol
@@Latituderanch Haha that's because you will take the Lean Ascent with you this hunting season 🤣
Still use a lone wolf handclimber platform most of the time with my saddle. Works well in my area. About 7.5lbs with the saddle. Can go around branches just like one sticking. Cool to see other options. It doesn't have the stabilizer between the bars either. No issues.
Well thats great to know! thanks for sharing
Great video though. You save so much of us a lot of time and money with our purchases with these well thought out vids much appreciated
Glad you like them!
Cool product.
super different product!
The whole marketing scheme behind saddles was that they were better than climbers because they could get in any tree (didn’t need a telephone pole) and lighter than hang ons. Now they’re just making climbing saddle platforms so you’re back to telephone trees. Hunters literally go full circle chasing the “latest and greatest” lol
@bobamerican755 I mean maybe... I think these are being created because people wanted them and asked for them. And none of the major saddle companies have done it.It's all these new, independent companies.
I think hunters needs vary depending on their location. I’m in Northeastern Ohio (go Buckeyes) and there are no shortage of straight trees. I also have really bad knees and this might be my thing. Just a thought.
@a.b.k1983 another great point!! Love when you guys comment great points!!!
We moved to saddle hunting to be able to hide behind the tree and shoot 360. You can't hunt from a saddle in any tree: when you have a lot of branches, a hang on treestand is superior as it is very well documented by Dan Infalt.
380 bucks that sucker better come with stealth strips, grip tape and a deer tag, that's ridiculous.
@@erxkeel I wish!!
It is all relative: how much did you pay for your saddle when you get 95% of the same features and comfort from a climbing harness and a sit drag for under $100? - bringing such product to market was a wild dream for us, but it isn't cheap. We appreciate your interest in the video!
@@ospreyoutdoors2225I can go in any damn tree I want and can imagine with my setup I can only hunt the Powerline poles with that chunk of junk. I run a hybrid stand and also a ROS. I remember starting out with a climber. But the past is the past nobody uses vhs no more
Thanks for the review. I have been waiting for something like this to come out.
@@davidlane9724 absolutely 💯
They just went full on summit viper cable and adjustment. If I just used my viper base then I have a full platform
@lovetogun3611 yeah u most definitely could do that, chop it down and re-weld it
@@lovetogun3611 add a post somehow
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors Id just leave it the way it is. When I use my viper I basically stand the entire time during bow season and have never had any issue, though I do make sure Im keeping my weight out enough for the leverage. Id just lose the ability to leverage the platform to swing around the tree but I dont typically do that anyway
I bought a LWCG ranger hybrid anyway...Itching to put it to use
@@lovetogun3611 makes sense
Thanks for the video homie
@@benclark5373 absolutely
I ordered a broadside stand. I reviewed the trees I’ve killed deer from over prior 5yr before I bought it. I decided it’s the most versatile option. I like it because 1. unlimited size no in-between issues. 2. Very large stand alone platform. 3. Ropes for the attachment ‘cable’ which to me is easily replaceable (thinking very long term) using quality climbing ropes in the future that are inexpensive 4. Use it for a climber, OR, add a multi step aider and one stick with it on limby trees if you have to (videos on one sticking with platform), I hate one-sticking though, 5. go around branches easily with a multi step aider on it, 6. I’ve tried everything else for run and gun and climbing platform just makes the most sense since the saddle, a multi step aider, and some know how Eliminates 90% if not 100% of the reasons most people got away from climbers in the first place. To me, it’s the most versatile option.
Have you tried it yet? How is it to climb with?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors I wish I had! It hasn’t come in yet hopefully in the next couple weeks I’m told. I borrowed an old school climber platform, it’s huge ~37x26” (super light for size only 9lb ), but i bummed it to test the concept for free, and I very much like it. It’s very efficient, very safe and comfortable, and I could stop and shoot a deer at any point during the climb if I needed to which I really like. For me that bummed one is about 9 min to 15 ft from when I walk up to the tree. Other things are twice that long for me. I think broadside will be no more noise than setting a climbing stick from no moving parts. Maybe the teeth will scrape the tree, but it shouldn’t make much noise from that with some well placed stealth strips. The panther platforms guys have videos showing them using a multi step aider on thiers for reference. I intend to do something like that with the broadside. Probably mounted in the center of the platform so it’s close to the tree. I’m exited to get it for sure.
if you remember, please report back on your experience!! thanks!!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors will do once I get it! I’m excited to run it.
Just got the latitude lonestar saddle yesterday from jays sporting goods couples with a tetherd mvp backband wowsers it is one comfortable saddle .....big buck better be careful this year.....
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@@michaelconley6245 that's awesome man! Good luck!
Any fat guy! I got excited about your thumbnail pic and initial thoughts, I’m a skinny guy, but your honest review definitely let me know this product is not for me
Thats the whole purpose of this channel!!! Im glad it was helpful. Im not totatly convinced this is for me yet either, I plan to take it hunting at least once to see but im worried about how much noise it makes, with a hand climber you have so much more control to be quiet. This not so much....
You should do a review on the twisted iron boot bandolier pro/pack rat. I think you would really like the set up.
that does look nice, seems like a nice little system
i knew i should have patented something like this. I just took a climbing stand bottom and have been using that. its a little too big but it works pretty well. might check this one out, as it fits the bill better!
How do u saddle hunt out of it? The second u push off the side the p latform goes
Thanks for watching!
I pitched this idea to LWCG 3 years ago
I asked as well.....
The cable system interferes with pivoting to the sides of the platform. Not that that set up would be able to handle side pressure anyway. Not being able to pivot around a tree with a saddle is a huge disadvantage.
Yeah I suppose you need to add the ring of steps to make it bullet proof
We highly recommend to use a ring of steps if you want to shoot 360 properly from any platform (ours included)
I own the Barron Ridge and there is no reason to have a stand-off and post. Just a strap at hunting height. Also, Mine has a bungee for your feet and paracord with a light carabiner to keep it from sliding down the tree while going up. Also, the Barron Ridge you use one foot against the tree and one foot in the platform to climb and it has a stabilizer bar and is extremely solid with no jiggling parts.
I should look into that one, I have some plans to customize this platfrom more to make it silent.
So more or less a tethered or helium with a cable.. Hmmm I might have to do some engineering.. Thx brother. Got your ears lowered I see .. Lookin sharp .
Thanks my G.
I say for about $150 I’d go for it- consider for $300 you can get a climber from summit and it’s essentially the same with a bigger platform and a seat
If you want to be able to use the trunk to hide, you can't use the climber seat and the lean ascent post will provide a lot of additional stability. If you don't need to hide behind the trunk or shoot 360, the climber works great. That's from where we are coming from.
@@ospreyoutdoors2225 that is true- but why the cost ?
Is it made in America ?
150? thats a lot of platform for not a lot of price, Id think 300 would be the ticket!
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors
$300 for a summit viper climbing stand- larger platform and full seat- and made in America- that’s why I’d say $150- half the price for half of the product .
It may be a great product. However, like a lot of things nowadays, I don’t understand the pricing.
Do the same thing with a lone wolf handclimber 🤟🏼
Im gonna try my cross over with the saddle
Yes, except you don't have the central post and it makes it more difficult to shoot 360.
@@ospreyoutdoors2225 love the product we need more companies giving the saddle hunter what they need but at almost 400$ for a platform I’ll pass.
Isn’t the first all in one system a one stick with a top platform?
Yeah I think maybe you're right ...
I have been waiting for companies to combine climbing with saddles and I'm waiting for all the kinks to iron out. Then i see the "recall master's" at Tethrd make a new platform that angles down. Like towards the fu@!in ground. All the gimmicks coming out to play
@SavagelandHunting Yeah, it's often a good strategy to wait for the second generation models of everything in mobile hunting these days. There's really only one company that comes to mind that doesn't have these sort of flunders on launch.
Great review, saw you still using the latitude lonestar, how are you liking the saddle now that you have more time with it?
@@ryanseckinger liking it very much so. Plan to run it this season in saddle setups.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors thanks
380$? That’s fucking wild
You think its too much? What do you think its worth?
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors 299 would be a better price point, imo
but you have $500 plus hang ons selling like crazy, so they probably have it priced right at 380.
Man... the more I think about it you might be right... I was kinda blinded by the fact that with this setup you don't have to buy sticks, however, this is made in china so it is cheaper to make, plus you have to assemble a portion of it. So yeah that price makes a lot more sense now to think about it in that way.
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors can buy the whole lone wolf climbing setup for $250 used. That is why they are so popular in the saddle groups. Zip up the tree and zip down with my Madrock
So $400 for this climbing piece, say $250 mid range saddle, $50 tether rope, $100 for repel line $20 figure8/$85 for madrock, $20 quick link. $900ish for a set up +/- a few dollars depending on your equipment choices and you are still limited in what tree your climbing? For that kinda $$$ I’m buying a new LWCG climbing stand for a couple hundred more as it’s fairly light and compact and there’s not really a learning curve. For me saddle hunting is for a compact system that allows me to get basically in any tree anywhere. Great thorough review of a cool product I just don’t understand the use of these when your using a saddle. Again great non biased review some good some bad and that’s very important when making $$$ decisions!!!
@pathfinder5804 all great points and really failed to mention so thanks for pointing them all out!! I appreciate it 👊👊
Where u get madrock for $85 otd?
@@user-sp9hy8tq4j got my two on sale for $85 and a simple goggle search brings them up for $99 that’s where +|- a few bucks comes in.
used on marketplace I see them sometimes....
@@MichiganGreatOutdoors ya that’s always a good place to find them. I’ve had my issues with repelling so I no longer do it much. I LUV doing it and think it’s safest way down from tree. My issue is I’ve had my quick link on 3 separate times get hung up and have to climb back up and retrieve it. PAIN in the azz!!!!! I do one stick occasionally when I’m in a known tree, straight and with no branches but now I just use 99% of the time a good stick setup. 8 min from ground to hunting height and ready to go. Slightly slower coming down but got my system down and that’s mostly important no matter what climbing system you’re using. This product review might be perfect choice for some for me I can’t imagine the benefits of it but it’s not my system.
Nice review, but these climbing bases are crazy expensive. I use my lone wolf base that I cut down and now it is 19.5 inches by 20 inches and weighs 9 pounds, it may be heavy by todays standards for a platform, but I will sacrifice the weight for comfort. It's amusing to me when I see saddle hunters spending hundreds of dollars to shave a pound or two off their carry in weight, when most of us could shed 10 or 20 pounds by having a few less beers and chicken wings.
Haha - good one. Climber seats work. The central post makes a huge difference though.