Can the Nissan Pathfinder Climb Out of Andre’s Pit, Pass Nathan’s Crack & Clear a Cow Pie Minefield?
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( tfl-studios.com/ ) The new 2022 Nissan Pathfinder brings a ton of updates from styling to tech and even a 9-speed automatic transmission. Is it as rugged as it looks off the beaten track though? That's what Roman and Tommy set off to find out at TFL's own Tumbleweed Ranch!
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The most impressive part of this video was Alex holding the camera completely still through all of that. Good job buddy. 👍
Gimble!!
I think what makes tfl so special is that you guys are a company. Professional, lots of employees and even two facilities, yet it still has that homemade feel to your videos
This video just pushed the Pathfinder to the top of my list.
The fact that it negotiated it with no trouble with All-Season Road Tires, it is remarkable!
It's so bizarre how getting knobs and buttons for basic controls nowadays feels like a luxury feature
I really like how you guys take these types of vehicles and test them. 99.9% of people wont utilize the features to their max potential on this type of vehicle.
I have a 2017 Nissan pathfinder AWD Platinum SUV that I brought brand new Dec 2016 which is the best SUV I've ever owned for the money. I paid 39,000 for it brand new, it's loaded with creature comfort like adaptive cruise control, it can tow 6000 pounds easily, and because of the CVT the AWD version gets 22 to 24 miles per gallon on the highway. Never had any problems since purchase and have 80000 on it. With all terrain tires it does well on muddy dirt roads on my property and has never left me stuck/stranded. Only time it's been in the shop is for oil changes and new brake pads.
Any updates on your Pathfinder's reliability? Do you still have the Pathfinder?
My dad have a platinum pathfinder 2016 and it is so good it have 40k km because we don’t use it too much and my isn’t planing to change it
"My shoes are so muddy."
"Why not try flipping your shoes inside out?"
I really like a V6. Everything seems to be going to a Turbo 4.
It’s weird how we’re settling for v6 when v8 used to be the norm and now it turbo 4
@@vladimirdarius4852 I can't wait for the triple turbocharged 2 cylinder engines of the future.
@@vladimirdarius4852 did Pathfinder ever have a V8?
@@ALMX5DP nope.
@@ALMX5DP They put the vk56 in as an option from 08 to 12 at least. You can still find them.
The top of the hill can be Roman’s Rant. Love the rants.
First Gen still the best with body on frame, 2 position adjustable shocks, mechanical levers. The SE with the sport pack was fabulous. We had them to rent with company I worked for and loved doing brake burnouts. Chiseled looking with a cool rear tire carrier too.
I had a 2002 Pathfinder at home when I was a kid. Great SUV, extremely reliable.
I still have my 2002 pathfinder!
@@gianttodd1 miss our 1999 LE (bought new) and 2003 LE (bought used in 2006), both kept in the family for over 12 years each.
Dont underestimate the second gen because of the unibody, they were light, had the solid rear axle, plenty of pep and reliability and were available with a manual. Great little things.
I have a 2002 lifted with 31's and its great, and wheeled a stock 97 for a long time, it would get me further than most guys were willing to go, my 1000 dollar r50 got there rear lsd, solid axle, incredible low range, high stock intake, the second gen did not get the credit it deserved was better than a cherokee in every way other than after matket support
@@quinnycoleman7214 yup, had an XJ, 02 Pathfinder and 02 Xterra. The Xterra and XJ were a tad better off road, but the Pathfinder was 100% better on road than both and could easily be improved off road. Super underrated. If I had to go back and choose just one I'd choose the Pathfinder.
Nothing like watching TFL while changing diapers and feeding baby twins 🤟🏼
The 20 minute video goes perfect with the time it takes to feed our 5 month old.
1st Generation was the best. I owned the last year it was made and I do miss it. However, for a mall crawler, this version does seem to be back on track. Cannot think of a better person than Roman to go mark the territory. ;)
Andre's sign is awesome. The Pathfinder was surprisingly good, too. Most "SUV's" anymore AREN'T. They are just bulbous kid haulers, which is fine. But is nice that this one can actually do something. Next time I am renting a car, will keep it in mind.
Good looking rig, appears to be competent all round. Excellent review as usual fellas🤙
Nissan needs to come back with the xterra
Yes but with more power too
Yes yes yes!!!!!!
It can handle Andre’s Pit and Pass Nathan’s Crack but can it climb Tommy's Nob?
You’re pretty mature for an 8 year old. You should definitely post more. You bring so much to the table.
SUVs like this should have 8" minimum ground clearence to improve the approach angle. It is not much of an ask compared to the 4L transfer case.
It's a giant car
CUVs like this dont really need to worry about approach angle. If you are worried about that, get a more appropriate offroader.
100%. They are not mini vans. They should have some practicality of "SUV" though they are not really. Should have minimum 8" clearance imo as well. People like to take them for activities like camping and hiking. Nissan should look at other competitors.
Absolutely, its not an suv if it cant get you anywhere a civic could go, its a wagon at best
@@quinnycoleman7214 Apparently you haven't heard that manufacturers changed the definition of what makes an SUV years ago when they discovered that they can sell a heck of a lot more of them when built to luxuriously crawl the mall than to crawl the rocks.
Just gave my wife a down payment for a new crossover/suv for about a month ago. She came back with the base model 2022 Outlander! 28k! No mark ups!
Great vehicle so far after just hitting 2200 miles. Would love to see more videos of the 2022 Outlander, it’s such an upgrade from the previous models!
Thanks!!
Sorry to hear that.
This is not an offroader. In this car it's all about the style.
Most in this segment are not true off roaders per say, however, I am impressed with these modern transfer cases and computer-controlled 4wd systems being able to immediately send power to whatever wheel needs it. Today's family haulers may be limited by highway-friendly tires and eco-friendly ground clearance, but they certainly have the best drivelines in 100 years.
The young fella has moments of sounding just like Kermit the Frog. love it.
This video again shows how traction control gets you stuck.
Traction control is to get you going in a straight line on a concrete road , not for this situation
@@PRviewsvlogs Which is why is should be off by default when the driver selects any offroad drive mode. The driver should not have to turn it off manually after selecting an offroad mode.
Now you need an area called "Roman's Rocks."
All in for Roman Rocks
Romans’ Stones. rolls off the tongue better
@@BraeburnTV Works well if there's a large pair for articulation testing
Would be interesting to put it on the rollers.
@@spartanchirho I always think it's cool when you see one of those hills that has the rollers embedded in it.
It really seems like the best way to rule out variables and just get down to the meat and potatoes of the capabilities of the drivetrain.
I hope Nissan does a Pro-4X version of the Pathfinder. It needs a slight lift and some all terrain tires before I will buy it.
Or just bring back the xterra on the frontier chassis.
The new Rock Creek model has AT's and a suspension lift standard.
You'll need poles for those signs although you should give Nathan the head up before ramming one in or at Nathan's hole 😂
Sorry Nathan, it's just another TFL family joke😁
Roman is my fav car reviewer, I could buy anything he suggest buying, he’s the BEST
I have the Platinum 4WD fully equipped. This type of SUV is best with 4WD. For the winter I put in the 18 inch wheels with heavy duty mud/snow tires. For the summer I will be using the 20 inch wheels with all season tires. I will not be going off road with this Pathfinder. If I was going to go off road I would get the proper tires on heavy duty 18 inch rims. This vehicle is not a heavy duty type off road vehicle. I found when on soft surfaces and in snow I got better results when turning off traction control in the menu system.
The skirts are too low to be practical for true off road driving. For true and serious off road I would get a Rubicon or an off road 4X4 PRO-X type pickup truck.
I bought it to use as large 4WD vehicle for winter months. In the summer it will be for regular urban driving. I like the size and the comfort. Great vehicle for general SUV type use.
Glad to see Nissan got rid of the CVT
Great SUV with the 3.5L V6 9 speed 2nd gen. transmission (no cvt,)! New styling and awesome interior!
Roman, tighten up that belt. Was worried we’d see more than just Nathan’s crack.
Really good looking car. I love the paint. Just swap tyres for off-road
Tommy: Doing a little something down there.
Me: Well it is Nathan’s crack
Love the tumbleweed ranch animation open!
I'm really digging the tumbleweed videos. How far is it from your headquarters? Thanks guys
That can't be too far away, those hogbacks mainly run from the south end of Ft Collins to the south end of Denver.
good v6 and no more cvt Nissan is heading in the right direction also Nissan I would like to the 3.8 v6 in the frontier in this pathfinder at least offer it as an option and maybe vice versa for those complaining about fuel economy on the frontier offer the current engine in this pathfinder on the frontier I think if you offer both of those engines on the frontier and this pathfinder or at least give us the option it would make both vehicles more enticing
Very surprised that it made it back! Looks like Nissian has a winner on its hands.Very good looking vehicle.
Nathan’s Crack 9:25
Andre’s Pit 14:00
Sniper Hill 18:58
If that rock in the begging is a problem it’s not a pathfinder. It’s laminate rider 😅
Sounds like you guys were tripping over your words today LOL love your videos!
Alex forgot that he was a cameraman for a car video for a second, lol.
20:17 This vehicle is really a soft-roader.
We have a 2011 Nissan Pathfinder SV 4 x 4 149,000 miles and still going strong of course on a truck frame why I kept it and no CVT our last Maxima had CVT and it went thru 4 trans before we got rid of it
A front-wheel-drive (or AWD) cross-over may be labeled a Pathfinder, but it is more a bloated minivan than an SUV.
My daily-drive is an '88 2-door SE. With rear positraction and 4WD it gets through almost any situation.
Tommy's looking good with that new haircut👍👍
Tommy looks older than his dad without his glasses
I put Falken Wildpeak A/T3 tires on mine and they are great, and pretty quiet on the highway.. The OEM Toyo Open Country tires were not good..
I remember Tommy telling about "true and real-world" off-roading tests, and not just a "man-made" off-roading test site.
I can't recall what episode was that 😂
Need to get a set of Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires. It has a aggressive tread design. They are very grippy. I have a set on my 13' Acura ILX.
Is it still the good old VQ40 in these?
This new place would be good to put the Super Duty Tremor thru it’s paces like getting in some deep mud or snow!
It looks great. Other than telluride best design in class.
I like the respect you show to the cars that aren’t yours. So many people say “why didn’t you do this or that” and it’s because the cars are on loan. And there is some under paid car detailer out there who thanks you for flipping the floor mats over.
The big empty field should be named Romans Head because this entire idea came from Romans head. Once the equipment gets in there and makes the course, the name will make sense.
Pretty impressive
Looks like Nissan took parts from Subaru Outback, Ford Explorer, Range Rover, and
Mac Gyver it .
Great video nice to see you on the ranch testing all kind of vehicles. Congratulations.
Regards for You all.
You guys should’ve brought the Toyota Highlander you had to the ranch and compare them side by side.
I still prefer the first gen. I still don't know what android auto or apple car play is, so I can do without that. Can you turn that screen off so you don't have to look at that all the time? If not maybe you can make a cover to put on it.
First time ive heard someone wanting a cover for the infotainment. Most have the ability to turn the display off
@@BullittKid08 Definitely distracting. I didn't know if you could turn it off or not. I actually wish they didn't even have them.
Big island kona surf co must be the new official sweat shirt. Thats like the 8th video in the last few weeks that hes worn the sweater 😄
The Pathfinder went family-like Blazer.
Not even any snow, come to western Canada in November
I've been driving on Toyo Open Country AT3's for over a year now. No issues with dirt, mud, sand, snow, rain. Big departure compared to the Open Country AS
LOVE my Toyo Open Country AT III's.
Still waiting patiently for the toyota sequoia TRD PRO...
The ladies will love this for the school run,,,,,, the men will simply keep driving their trusty old Surf/Fourrunner.
I just switched my 4Runner from Michelin Defender LTX MS2 highway LT tires to Falken Wildpeak AT3W tires with 3PMS snow rating. I was worried ride, pavement performance, and road noise would all suffer. So far, I can barely tell the difference with a very slightly stiffer ride. I think it is because the Falkens have heavier sidewalls than the Michelins. Those Falkens would probably work wonders on the new Pathfinder. Somebody needs to tell Nissan USA. ;-)
Do you all test SUVs on towing? Newer SUVs like the Pathfinder on the Ike?
Maybe take an older version pathfinder and compare it to see if they went forward or backward of capabilities and well see if it's worthy of off roading
It will be great when we can see a real course with all the things we would encounter offroad. Hills, minor and maximum articulation sections, moguls, approach and departure angels and even break over angles. A couple days with a tractor and you would have a fantastic course mapped out. Maybe even have detours side by side for All Wheel vs 4 Wheel vehicles.
Love pathfinder 2022 4wd ❤
I like the new body style but I wish it was like the 1 gen 4x4 setup with 2wd being driven by the rear wheels instead of fwd.
This test was good but not enough, would like to see the same as you did with kia sorento
Staple gun headlights. You'll never un-see it.
I swear, it looks like a short wheelbase, 1st generation GM Lambda platform. The similarities are absolutely uncanny.
Pathfinder used to compete with 4Runner and now is just meant for the road.
Nissan has pretty much perfected that 3.5v6
Just wondering if Tommy tricked Roman into marking the areas so he could say he saw his dad out marking his territory?
Those tires would have to go . I run a set of Falken wildpeak AT3 on my pickup .they work well in the dirt and snow with out giving up much on road. . its my go to tire . the perfekt tire Upgrade for somthing like that.
I have the Wildpeak AT Trail on my 2015 Pathfinder and they work fantastic.
Looking forward to the wheelin reviews at the new location. However, can we all agree that the 🐮 🥧 narrative has run its course?
Why dont you use winter tires...?
I just bought a 2012 Pathfinder (last of the REAL Pathfinders) and absolutely love it! What they did with it afterwards was an absolute disgrace! It looks a little better but a long way from where it was before! Unibody would be fine so long as it has a conventional drivetrain and a REAL suspension more suitable for off road (think Jeep Grand Cherokee).
And yeah, they should bring back the XTerra and base it off the new Frontier!
Nissan makes a great all-season rubber floor mat kit for the pathfinder.
I’d like to see more off-road testing of vehicles in regular, on-road mode. I think it’s a better indication of sheer off-road ability when the car is left in regular mode, with just 4wd/awd engaged. Also, as a viewer, there’s no way for me to experience the difference of feeling in different driving modes.
A lot of people criticize the Pathfinder for what it's become as they see it as solely existing to be a competitor to the 4Runner. This, however, isn't and never really was the case. The Pathfinder has always been a trend follower having debuted in 1985 on the heels of every other compact to midsize SUV of the day including the 4Runner, yes, but before the 4Runner was the S-10 Blazer, not to mention the Jeep Wagoneer which was a smaller than any midsise SUV today as was the original very small Bronco before it went full size in 1978. Other small SUV introductions in 1984 were the Jeep Cherokee XJ and the Ford Bronco II. So Nissan was trying to get in on a trend the way Toyota was trying to get in on the same trend by converting the small pickups they already had into small SUV's.
Jeep had been taking the SUV upmarket with the Grand Wagoneer and Land Rover had been doing the same but when Ford introduced the Explorer in 1990 it really changed the mass market SUV game. Better ride and handling (it still wasn't great, just better than others) more features, still enough off road capability to be useful for the majority and a lower price tag than the luxo utes. Well, when it became clear that this was the future Nissan followed Ford, not Toyota, and introduced a much more refined but still capable Pathfinder for it's second generation while Toyota kept the 4Runner mostly as it had been and introduced the Rav 4 to compete with the like of the Pathfinder and Explorer. As time marched on and the three row, mid-size SUV game came into existence Nissan tried to play along by converting their 2005 Pathfinder into their 3 row competitor based on the same platform as the Frontier, the Titan and the Xterra. A money saving measure to be sure not a grand plan to keep the Pathfinder off road ready. In the meantime Toyota had introduced the Highlander in 2001 as a larger and more refined version of the Rav4 and they put this extra size and refinement to use as a 3 row in 2004 with no expression of off road intent.
Nissan realized the Pathfinder was not large enough, comfortable enough nor did it contain enough features to compete with it's three row competition so they did a short run in comparison to the other models on the F-Alpha platform and introduced the Pathfinder as we know it today in 2013. It had no other purpose than to sell as many copies of itself as possible. It wasn't a competitor to the 4Runner but rather the Traverse, the Highlander, the Explorer and the Honda Pilot to name but a few. Having finally introduced the class competitive Rogue in 2008 Nissan felt that was enough and let the Xterra do it's thing until 2015. With the second generation Xterra having declined in sales dramatically each year since it's 2005 introduction until it leveled out in 2009 at just 16,455 units sold with a bump the next year to just over 20,000 units and then a steady decline until just 10,672 were sold in 2015. If you really want certain cars to remain available for purchase you have to actually purchase them, not fuss about their departure when they're gone.
After the CVT debacle Nissan knew they couldn't bring out a new generation of Pathfinder with the same tired transmission so we got the 9 speed which is great and so far has been trouble free. Otherwise the running gear is almost the same with some new tuning and some minor revisions. Nissan has tried to play up the rugged aspect of the original Pathfinder as if it just recently lost it's way but the Pathfinder was intentionally taken down the path it's on so as to have a competitive three row SUV while sharing as many corporate parts as possible. Until Ford brought back the Bronco Toyota was the only manufacturer that I am aware of still producing a mid-size body on frame SUV in the 4Runner. And despite all the press it gets the 4Runner is not a major seller for Toyota so there is very little reason for Nissan or anyone but, trucks - R - us, Ford to bother with one. And for all the hate it gets the fourth gen pathfinder was the highest selling model of the Pathfinder ever at 70,632 on average per year compared to the second best selling generation which was the second generation at 60,564 on average per year. If Nissan hadn't been so concerned with saving a buck and more so with quality control the fourth generation could have easily topped 100,000 sales a year but when word gets around that the transmission in you 40 to 50 thousand dollar SUV is a ticking time bomb, well, sales start to fall. If Nissan keeps the quality up and refreshes the new Pathfinder like it's competition does their 3 row mid sizers then this generation will easily out sell all that came before it.
So quit thinking that any new Pathfinder is intended to be anything more than a family hauler as that has been it's "Path" since the second generation. Instead, hope that Nissan sees enough in Ford Bronco sales and interest in a more rugged SUV to actually think they can sell enough body on frame mid size SUV's to make it worth their while. The new Frontiers is more than refined enough now and Nissan has some decent interior design folks on the staff these days so it could be done but is the financial risk worth it? Keyboard warriors always say yes but they don't buy enough of anything for any major manufacturer to worry about. A manufacturer can't worry with a hundred million in supposedly lost sales on a product that will cost them three or four hundred million to bring to market.
@Pro4x Trdpro Trendfinder, I like it. And yeah, all but the fourth generation are great vehicles for what they were then and are now intended for. But I just don't see Nissan ever making the Pathfinder anything other than what it is now. If there is to be a more rugged SUV from Nissan it won't be called Pathfinder again. But I don't care what they call it as long as they do it right.
How did you do this review with a straight face
I think if you ride the brake a bit it will slow the wheel spin and direct more power to the wheels that have traction.
Which family SUV do you think is more capable and recommended for the snow? New Nissan Pathfinder, Hybrid Highlander, Kia Telluride or Genesis GV80? Thanks.
Can it conquer Tommy's Taint trail ?
My wife and I saw one yesterday and she said “ do you think they can make the PATHFINDER any bigger?”
Ever followed a modern RAM?
@@ALMX5DP lol no doubt what it is. I think the Hyundai Pallisade is pretty large too.
@@nycmaverick yeah i kinda like the concept they're going for, but getting pretty ridiculous how obnoxious they want to make them.
That would be the Nissan Armada.
for absolutely caked up shit tires...that 2nd attempt was rather impressive
I like the color and the room inside what’s the mpg? Your right need better tires. Might have to wear boots instead of shoes lol
it looks decent but id prefer the clearance plus higher bumpers from my 4runner, those fenders sit too low to throw it around in deep snow banks or other terrain like with my truck.
Bring Back The Xterra!!!!!
Was just up in the mountains yesterday with my 2000xe
Generation 2 was very capable, but here in New England they rusted out bad quickly like Subarus, Tacomas, and most pickup trucks of that era. At least Toyota replaced the rusted frames under warranty. Toyota reliability is more nuanced than most people know or admit.
What interesting is the Nissan D40 platform made in Spain suffered from terrible frame rot issues, similar to the US Toyota trucks or around the same era. The US D40 frames were made by Dana and they are very good. I have a 2011 Frontier in the northeast and there really isn't much rust to speak of under it. Just they typical surface rust that's unavoidable in the salt belt. If you search for "Navara rust" you will see what I mean. As you said Toyota had the same problem in the late 00's early 10's.
Need to get some 4x4 post and leave the signs up
'Sniper Hill' cannot be 'Sniper Hill' until you place a sniper within the blind, armed with some type of .30 cal rifle... OK, at least some sort of paintball rifle.
You need aggressive mud and snow tires for these kind of terrains
Awesome video! You’ll never disappoint
I would love to see this in the roller test.
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Is this where you will be doing all your future testing? My 2wd with limited slip does that type of stuff every day
Love to see a Subaru Forester/Outback run through Nathan's Crack and Andre's Pit