If someone did that to my vinyl records. I would knock them out. Damaging my vinyl record library. I can't believe these people here. They certainly are not audiophiles.
@@mab7175DONT TRY THIS AT HOME ! or anywhere in fact, did it once , never again as it looks good in theory but it can leave residue on surface after peeling,and then damages your stylus and after that your stylus damages your complete record collection!
@@mikewest1542 First time I tried to clean my LPs. I would start with a gallon of distilled water poured over both surfaces of the LP and brush both surfaces with a microfiber brush. The remaining distilled water I pour over both sides of the LP edge pointed downward shaking excess water off. Place the LP laying straight up on dish washing drying rack until dry. I saw the method here, I thought it was crazy. Or playing a wise crack coaxing viewers to damage their LPs playing a devious practical joke.
Ha Ha!, I just picked one up at goodwill, it drags the needle when you raise it using the lift lever, i took it apart, OMG Crap, Now i spot these everywhere, utter garbage.
A shame the name Crosley is used on practically all these players and radios. The Crosley Company made some very unique things, such as cars, radios, refrigerators, ect. and many other innovations. Their Radio Station WLW in Cincinnati is still one of the most impressive and powerful radio towers ever constructed. The cars designed by the Crosley brothers were way ahead of their time in size, amount of gasoline needed and styling. It is a shame the name is now used by whatever Company in China is making all these junky electronics today. It was once quite different, especially when Crosley products were made in the USA.
That makes no sense at all. My cards would stick to the vinyl record while I'm playing poker. I can't believe these people here. They are certainly not audiophiles.
That incessant mouse clicking! This is why I'm glad I work in CNC machining, and not in an office. Having to show up to work and deal with nothing but mouse clicking day in and day out would drive me insane.
I would do one side at a time, and not let the glue float over the edges. It think using the fingers to pick away those pieces looks not good, well not how I would do it. At least I would use gloves and something. But that is because of using glue over the edges. No need for that. Also that glue doesn't look too good. I can see it is quite porous or what I should call it, and can easily break and leave some of it behind. I have never used this Titebond product. Maybe it's better than I think it looks, I have only used Casco and similar scandinavian wood glue which works good that way. Also a good idea to place a piece of strong paper, a tooth pick or something on the edge, and you can then easy pull it off without using the fingernails to get under it. However, there is two really good advices here. 1. To use an old cheap recordplayer for this work, not the one you use to play the records. I haven't thought of that myself. 2. To let it dry long enough, at least 24 hours. I have probebly pulled it off too soon some times. Thanks
Thanks JC nice job. I tried it first time today with a really old bottle of Elmers (not Titebond II or others that we see on the web), and found out why they don't use elmers wood glue: it doesn't peel off in a nice single piece, it comes off in chips and leaves a big mess. Will try the titebond next time.
Sorry about your bad luck. Yeah, Elmers is not the best for this application. Titebond cures in a more flexible state than most other wood glues, which tend to cure very brittle. Try applying some Titebond over the Elmers, allow it to cure and see if that will get the rest off. Good luck.
Thanks again, Im off to Lowes to get as big a container of Titebond II as I can. have a bunch of really crackly records to get digitized. The one record I did the trial with on one side with elmers, the improvement was UN believable! Absolutely un-be-lievable. It was a complete steady stream of crackles and pops before the cleaning, now it is an occasional crackle. I can really listen to it now! And it was one of those 25 cent (4.00 a bag or all you can carry) deals.
Oh man, over the years, I tried so many things, you'd laugh if you saw some of them. NOTHING worked. I tried jury rigging an old WaterPic teeth cleaner, and very carefully blasting the surface with water and a few drops of soap. Nothing. Hours of work, no improvement in sound quality at all. Not even the slightest improvement. I have seen a few videos with the disc washer type systems, some did seem to improve some didn't. Im going to try some experiments with diluting the titebond to see if it will flow into the grooves better if its a little less viscous. This is a cool thing.
There used to be a product specifically made for vinyl LP's that did the same thing. Trouble was that when you played a treated record, there was a build up of micro residue on the stylus tip. I found it was just too much hassle. Maybe the UPVC wood glue does a better job?
Fontsman yes, the first few records I tried to clean using this method, I used Elmer's wood glue and had those exact results. More than just residue, it was an instant crumbly build-up where the stylus was literally digging it out of the grooves. Tight Bond II comes completely off the vinyl with no residue. It will also get the old Elmers or other glue residue out of the grooves.
How old are you. I remember LP vinyl records back to the 1950s. The old way to clean vinyl records was with specialized hand gloves with short soft bristles on the surface of the specialized gloves for cleaning vinyl records. Isopropyl alcohol was the cleaning agent. If you did what this guy is doing at a reputable radio station. You would get immediately fired and thrown out the back door with the glue bottle in your hand. I can't believe these people here. They are certainly not audiophiles.
I have no idea as this is the first I've even heard of it. However, I'm down for anything that works for cheap. If you try the Phoenix cleaner, let me know how it works.
You are right that some records can not be helped. The biggest problems I have seen deal with heavily scratched records. Many are so badly scratched up and have been poorly taken care of over the years. Also, a bad needle used years ago can have done irreparable damage to the record and cleaning will not help such records. On the back of many record Albums, they would in large latter print BEWARE THE BLUNTED NEEDLE! A bad needle used in playing records can ruin them beyond repair. If a record is moldy and just dirty (without scratches), they can be cleaned with a variety of methods that work in varying degrees, but there is NOTHING that can be done to help a record poorly cared for over the years or one in which a blunted needle was used when it should have been replaced. The Phoenix product certainly helps, as the microcloth is used with the liquid, but being sure the needle is good will save more records and using both methods help to keep the record playing for many years to come. 78 RPM records are a good example as the needles used to play them were heavy and literally gouged out the grooves with every play. In the early days it was recommended to change one of the heavy old 78 needles after every play, but because of the weight of the tone arm and crudeness of the needle itself they still gouged out the record grooves on the old acetate records.@@jmakc3541
Richard, I finally found a sane person here. I go back to vinyl records from the 1950s. The method principally used by knowledgeable audiophiles. Was to use the method with specialized hand gloves specifically designed for vinyl records with short soft micro bristles on the surface of the gloves. Isopropyl alcohol was used as the cleaning agent. Furthermore, wood glues have residual chemicals that deteriorates the high frequency undulations in the grooves. Audiophiles can hear this damage because the higher frequencies of overtones from most musical instruments are marred. In fact, audiophiles never touch the surface of the records because the residual fatty acid oils on the surface of the palm and fingers of your hands and fingers. Also, deteriorates the fine high frequency undulations. Additionally, audiophiles discard the paper record sleeves and replace with plastic sleeves. A measure not to attract dust particles on the record surface from paper sleeves. That causes crackling and pops. Also scrapes and grinds undulations of the grooves when the stylus travels along the record grooves. I can't believe these people. They certainly are not audiophiles.
The torque makes it much easier to spread glue w/o using both hands. I used to do it manually and manually pretty much sucks and is much messier. This old record player (if it can even be called that) is a complete piece of trash and was only good for destroying records due to the lack of a counter balance on the tonearm. Cost me about $40 in a pawn shop back in the late 90's. I did the world a favor, as this thing is much better at this application than what it was designed to do. Thanks for watching.
My "fancy' machine sells for a little more than half that. It vacuums the disk and probably leaves the LP quieter than wood glue. It's exactly the sort of product a serious record collector (especially of worn, dirty disks) needs. Find someone who owns a Nitty-Gritty an make a valid comparison. Let us know what you find out.
@@edwinland2406 man, I'd like to know where you are getting them for that price? Seems you might be speaking of the mini pro and those are 1400 to 1500 dollars. I found a vintage 2.5 Fi that only does one side at a time for 250.00 and couldn't believe it was all still working at THAT price.
For any reason you picked Tidebond II? I used Tidebond (not II nor III) then got a miserable result. Dried glue was so brittle and sticky that I couldn't remove them all. I wonder if it was because of the type of glue.
Yes, Titebond II cures to a more pliable, flexible material. Titebond I and III will work, but cure more brittle like PVA-type glues. Re-glue the record you glued with Titebond II. There is a chance it will peel the old stuck on pieces off.
Grease stains, (fingerprints) the most often occuring dirt , won't come off this way.....which needs indeed a damp cloth and then some alcohol wipe.... *That* 13:43 will get you some nice spit particles on your just cleaned vinyl...😤
Yes. Old, dried peelings from years of using it this way. As mentioned in the video, I used to use various types of cards to apply the glue and I'd scrape the glue off the cards using the side of the device so that I'd have a clean card to use at each application. I think I may have dumped it out once before, but it doesn't seem to be an issue, it's just unsightly.
The satisfaction I feel just from watching someone else peel the glue off of a LP is thrilling. I can't wait to try this myself.
If someone did that to my vinyl records. I would knock them out. Damaging my vinyl record library.
I can't believe these people here. They certainly are not audiophiles.
@@mab7175DONT TRY THIS AT HOME ! or anywhere in fact, did it once , never again as it looks good in theory but it can leave residue on surface after peeling,and then damages your stylus and after that your stylus damages your complete record collection!
@@mikewest1542
First time I tried to clean my LPs. I would start with a gallon of distilled water poured over both surfaces of the LP and brush both surfaces with a microfiber brush. The remaining distilled water I pour over both sides of the LP edge pointed downward shaking excess water off. Place the LP laying straight up on dish washing drying rack until dry.
I saw the method here, I thought it was crazy. Or playing a wise crack coaxing viewers to damage their LPs playing a devious practical joke.
13 minutes and you didn't even have a before/after comparison of the audio.
At last, a truly good use for a Crosley turntable...
Couldn't agree more.
Ha Ha!, I just picked one up at goodwill, it drags the needle when you raise it using the lift lever, i took it apart, OMG Crap, Now i spot these everywhere, utter garbage.
A shame the name Crosley is used on practically all these players and radios. The Crosley Company made some very unique things, such as cars, radios, refrigerators, ect. and many other innovations. Their Radio Station WLW in Cincinnati is still one of the most impressive and powerful radio towers ever constructed. The cars designed by the Crosley brothers were way ahead of their time in size, amount of gasoline needed and styling.
It is a shame the name is now used by whatever Company in China is making all these junky electronics today. It was once quite different, especially when Crosley products were made in the USA.
Richard McLeod, They are not producing crap, it's worse, utter garbage, we can add their name right next to Rockford Fosgate.
I like to set them on tuna fish cans when letting the glue dry, You can stack them if your doing more then one... Great video Thanks for the info
You people are all naive or crazy.
I can't believe these people here. They are certainly are not audiophiles.
An old deck of playing cards works really well. For the first 52 records anyway.
Dad joke of the year.
That makes no sense at all. My cards would stick to the vinyl record while I'm playing poker.
I can't believe these people here. They are certainly not audiophiles.
That incessant mouse clicking! This is why I'm glad I work in CNC machining, and not in an office. Having to show up to work and deal with nothing but mouse clicking day in and day out would drive me insane.
I would do one side at a time, and not let the glue float over the edges. It think using the fingers to pick away those pieces looks not good, well not how I would do it. At least I would use gloves and something. But that is because of using glue over the edges. No need for that. Also that glue doesn't look too good. I can see it is quite porous or what I should call it, and can easily break and leave some of it behind. I have never used this Titebond product. Maybe it's better than I think it looks, I have only used Casco and similar scandinavian wood glue which works good that way.
Also a good idea to place a piece of strong paper, a tooth pick or something on the edge, and you can then easy pull it off without using the fingernails to get under it.
However, there is two really good advices here. 1. To use an old cheap recordplayer for this work, not the one you use to play the records. I haven't thought of that myself. 2. To let it dry long enough, at least 24 hours. I have probebly pulled it off too soon some times. Thanks
Thanks JC nice job. I tried it first time today with a really old bottle of Elmers (not Titebond II or others that we see on the web), and found out why they don't use elmers wood glue: it doesn't peel off in a nice single piece, it comes off in chips and leaves a big mess. Will try the titebond next time.
Sorry about your bad luck. Yeah, Elmers is not the best for this application. Titebond cures in a more flexible state than most other wood glues, which tend to cure very brittle. Try applying some Titebond over the Elmers, allow it to cure and see if that will get the rest off. Good luck.
Thanks again, Im off to Lowes to get as big a container of Titebond II as I can. have a bunch of really crackly records to get digitized. The one record I did the trial with on one side with elmers, the improvement was UN believable! Absolutely un-be-lievable. It was a complete steady stream of crackles and pops before the cleaning, now it is an occasional crackle. I can really listen to it now! And it was one of those 25 cent (4.00 a bag or all you can carry) deals.
Oh man, over the years, I tried so many things, you'd laugh if you saw some of them. NOTHING worked. I tried jury rigging an old WaterPic teeth cleaner, and very carefully blasting the surface with water and a few drops of soap. Nothing. Hours of work, no improvement in sound quality at all. Not even the slightest improvement. I have seen a few videos with the disc washer type systems, some did seem to improve some didn't. Im going to try some experiments with diluting the titebond to see if it will flow into the grooves better if its a little less viscous. This is a cool thing.
Michael Pukmel good idea!
I think it's best to do it on a Sunday afternoon .
If you can play the “Elmer’s Copy”, and it has snap, crackle and pops, you got your record as clean as you possibly can. 👍👍👍
There used to be a product specifically made for vinyl LP's that did the same thing. Trouble was that when you played a treated record, there was a build up of micro residue on the stylus tip. I found it was just too much hassle. Maybe the UPVC wood glue does a better job?
Fontsman yes, the first few records I tried to clean using this method, I used Elmer's wood glue and had those exact results. More than just residue, it was an instant crumbly build-up where the stylus was literally digging it out of the grooves. Tight Bond II comes completely off the vinyl with no residue. It will also get the old Elmers or other glue residue out of the grooves.
I wonder if you can melt down some old broken vinyl records and use the glue membrane as a mould to make another record
I was told this is an old radio station trick when they used to play albums over and over
How old are you. I remember LP vinyl records back to the 1950s. The old way to clean vinyl records was with specialized hand gloves with short soft bristles on the surface of the specialized gloves for cleaning vinyl records. Isopropyl alcohol was the cleaning agent. If you did what this guy is doing at a reputable radio station. You would get immediately fired and thrown out the back door with the glue bottle in your hand.
I can't believe these people here. They are certainly not audiophiles.
When he removes the Glue , the Album is More Appealing IMO .
Love the Cure.
is that melted cheese all over the wood >
Tried this at 11am today. Waiting 24 hours to see if it helps
Good luck to you.
I wonder what one of those glue negatives would sound like if you tried to play it?
Its the record in reverse. there's actually a few videos of it.
KK thanks, I found one after you mentioned shortly after and was actually surprised on the clarity despite being just glue lol!.
I bet the woodglue disc would make a fine lp too!
What do you think about the Phoenix cleaner (sold on Ebay) using a micro cloth after soaking the record or spraying it on well?
I have no idea as this is the first I've even heard of it. However, I'm down for anything that works for cheap. If you try the Phoenix cleaner, let me know how it works.
You are right that some records can not be helped. The biggest problems I have seen deal with heavily scratched records. Many are so badly scratched up and have been poorly taken care of over the years. Also, a bad needle used years ago can have done irreparable damage to the record and cleaning will not help such records.
On the back of many record Albums, they would in large latter print BEWARE THE BLUNTED NEEDLE! A bad needle used in playing records can ruin them beyond repair.
If a record is moldy and just dirty (without scratches), they can be cleaned with a variety of methods that work in varying degrees, but there is NOTHING that can be done to help a record poorly cared for over the years or one in which a blunted needle was used when it should have been replaced. The Phoenix product certainly helps, as the microcloth is used with the liquid, but being sure the needle is good will save more records and using both methods help to keep the record playing for many years to come.
78 RPM records are a good example as the needles used to play them were heavy and literally gouged out the grooves with every play. In the early days it was recommended to change one of the heavy old 78 needles after every play, but because of the weight of the tone arm and crudeness of the needle itself they still gouged out the record grooves on the old acetate records.@@jmakc3541
Richard, I finally found a sane person here. I go back to vinyl records from the 1950s. The method principally used by knowledgeable audiophiles. Was to use the method with specialized hand gloves specifically designed for vinyl records with short soft micro bristles on the surface of the gloves. Isopropyl alcohol was used as the cleaning agent. Furthermore, wood glues have residual chemicals that deteriorates the high frequency undulations in the grooves. Audiophiles can hear this damage because the higher frequencies of overtones from most musical instruments are marred. In fact, audiophiles never touch the surface of the records because the residual fatty acid oils on the surface of the palm and fingers of your hands and fingers. Also, deteriorates the fine high frequency undulations. Additionally, audiophiles discard the paper record sleeves and replace with plastic sleeves. A measure not to attract dust particles on the record surface from paper sleeves. That causes crackling and pops. Also scrapes and grinds undulations of the grooves when the stylus travels along the record grooves.
I can't believe these people. They certainly are not audiophiles.
Just use a lazy susan put a nail in the center. No point in ruing a record player period if you don't need too. Good Vid.
The torque makes it much easier to spread glue w/o using both hands. I used to do it manually and manually pretty much sucks and is much messier. This old record player (if it can even be called that) is a complete piece of trash and was only good for destroying records due to the lack of a counter balance on the tonearm. Cost me about $40 in a pawn shop back in the late 90's. I did the world a favor, as this thing is much better at this application than what it was designed to do. Thanks for watching.
Patrick I Hear the company Crosley is terrible and no good.
You should have left the audio of your kids screaming for comedic effect.
I bet he would have... if it didnt end with him yelling at them to shut up lol
A Nitty-Gritty vacuum record cleaning machine is a lot easier to use, I have one that cleans and vacuums both sides at the same time.
I'm sure it is... for $1000, lol. I have better things to spend money on... like more records and wood glue. Thanks for watching.
My "fancy' machine sells for a little more than half that. It vacuums the disk and probably leaves the LP quieter than wood glue. It's exactly the sort of product a serious record collector (especially of worn, dirty disks) needs. Find someone who owns a Nitty-Gritty an make a valid comparison. Let us know what you find out.
@@edwinland2406 man, I'd like to know where you are getting them for that price? Seems you might be speaking of the mini pro and those are 1400 to 1500 dollars. I found a vintage 2.5 Fi that only does one side at a time for 250.00 and couldn't believe it was all still working at THAT price.
For any reason you picked Tidebond II? I used Tidebond (not II nor III) then got a miserable result. Dried glue was so brittle and sticky that I couldn't remove them all. I wonder if it was because of the type of glue.
Yes, Titebond II cures to a more pliable, flexible material. Titebond I and III will work, but cure more brittle like PVA-type glues. Re-glue the record you glued with Titebond II. There is a chance it will peel the old stuck on pieces off.
I will give it a try. Thanks!
it seems so easy but i would somehow ruin my vinyl
I will use my grandmother's recipe. Vinegar.
I also use a vinegar/water mix for normal cleanings. Glue is only for the worst case scenario.
for what?
can u play woodglue film peel on the turntable?
No because the glue will be the opposite of the record grooves. It would be peaks not valleys
Grease stains, (fingerprints) the most often occuring dirt , won't come off this way.....which needs indeed a damp cloth and then some alcohol wipe.... *That* 13:43 will get you some nice spit particles on your just cleaned vinyl...😤
Awesome.
10:08... the glue saved you a scratch there!
Absolutely. Total butter fingers.
Is that wood glue in there?
Yes. Old, dried peelings from years of using it this way. As mentioned in the video, I used to use various types of cards to apply the glue and I'd scrape the glue off the cards using the side of the device so that I'd have a clean card to use at each application. I think I may have dumped it out once before, but it doesn't seem to be an issue, it's just unsightly.
ok you wasted 1/2 bottle of glue ...
I waste dozens. At $7/bottle... pretty cheap for completely clean records. Thanks for watching.
If you use smaller amounts of glue but closer together you can save a lot of glue
Have you tried this with 78 rpm shellac records?
No, I have not. Sorry.
Ok. :)
I like your dog
PEOPLE!! DON'T USE GLUE OR ANYTHING THAT IS PASTE AND PEEL ON YOUR VINYL!! PLEASE!!
Why
Is that old dried pasta on your turntable?
Monte Lang Are you really that dumb?
+Becki Green: well your comment makes me feel good about myself, thanks so much
Becki: I'm pretty sure it was a joke.
All the talking. Is there something in you tube that says talk a lot ?? Go buy a vacuum cleaning record machine. There Are 20 makers to choose from.