Formula 3 Hamilton & Vettel Battle - 2005
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2012
- Lewis Hamilton & Sebastian Vettel go toe to toe in this Formula three race on the German Lewis Hamilton Chasing Down Sebastian Vettel on the German F3, EuroSpeedway Lausitz in 2005.
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"Germans brightest star of the future against britains brightest star of the future" Prediction god
wow crazy
This was always quite obvious from F3 and F2 for both Lewis and Vettle. They were also both academy drivers for Mercedes and Redbull respectively. Big teams know how to spot potential in young drivers and these two were spotted early
@@stemmedia4153McLaren*
feel that McLaren Mercedes Young Driver Support Programme*
feel that I’m not being pedantic, that’s actually what it was called. Lewis has been in the Mercedes family his whole racing career pretty much so that’s why I called it Merc but fair point
15 years later: Hamilton with 7x WDC, Vettel with 4x WDC. Since 2007, at least one of these two drivers have finished in the top two of the F1 Driver's Championship, and these two guys won 10 of the last 11 WDCs. Both GOATs
Nico rosberg:"helo"
@Purtzel_HD senna
meh, both were lucky to have dominant cars for several years
@@StarFox85 Senna does not participate in this discussion... This discussion is for humans...
@Purtzel_HD Nope
This is why Lewis Hamilton said their rivalry is his favorite in all of F1. Their fights truly make for an extremely strong and exciting rivalry.
because he won most of the time. Hamilton was asked the same thing in 12’ or 13’ and he said it was Nando
@@sandalphoncpu opinions can change after 9 more years
2:30 “Lewis knows a race is not won in the first 5 laps”
15 years later he still is composed and good at managing tires and knowing when to pass to win the race
The Turkish Grand Prix today was pretty much a reply of this 15 years later! Vettel driving excellently to hold off Hamilton in the wet.
Hamilton win battle and overtake Vettel...
@@camino2457 you have to ask yourself 2 questions:
1. What was the state of tires on Vettel's car. Were they equally worn off as Hamilton's tires.
2. Why did LH had to overtake Vettel in the first place? How come he didn't start first and Vettel behind him, if he was so good.
@@cinegraphics ok it's just a comparison lol it doesn't matter the teams both had different strategies
@@cinegraphics You really don't have any clue, don't you?
@@cinegraphics because the objective is FINISH first. Not start first. Whatever that means.
damn, van der garde was leading a race
Well, he got into F1 somehow. He had to be winning in the lower series
Formule NL He's one of many that just didn't get the right drive in F1, probably due to lack of money behind him. Big shame as it's probably too late now.
James Harrison yeah indeed. His career is over, because he's focussing on a job as DJ, I've read that last year in a Dutch F1 magazine.. didn't know that tbh
He isn't a DJ...He's racing in WEC Since last year...Are you guys real motorsport fans or...
www.mixcloud.com/giedovdgarde/ i thought the dj thing was bs but i was proved wrong! actually not too bad either!
If only f1 cars could follow as close as that
studioviper lets hope next year
You see how small their wings are?
@@lukas6610 yeah......
@@Skixz this makes me so sad
About that
Hehe great racing by two masters.. at this time Kimi and Alonso were already battling for world championships in F1.. great stuff!
Yep 😂
And hamilton beat alonso as team mate
And vettel beat kimi as teammate
I calculated 12 crashes if that were Maldonado and Perez:)
Dude, are you serious?? I saw at least 25! :D
Aphorism89 plus the grand stand having to take avoiding action and crashing into the pit garages
+Cole Jones dont dis checo, great driver! beating hulkenberg! Fuck Maldonado tho!
+Cole Jones I would say tripple it
+Cole Jones loool
wow, almost 10 years later the story repeats again.
9
BrownieGames12
Almost 10 years = 9 years
all this math thing is blowing my mind...
12 years now :D
15 years
damn this was more tense then some F1 battles
It's amazing when cars can attack each other aggressively, we need this in F1 so bad. Not that Hungaroring bullshit that passes for racing
But F1 fans are weird... Saying ''I want more battling and aggressiveness'', then refusing categorically to get rid of the race with the least amount of overtaking ever : Monaco. Yes the circuit is challenging and fun to watch in qualifying, but in the race? It's all single file until someone hits a barrier, then it's more single file, except at that point it's behind a safety car. Cars are too long and wide nowadays for that track.
Ehh I don't know about that
@@charles-antoinemartel-roy Monaco is too special for that, too much history. Watch a Monaco GP from in Monaco and you'll understand.
Once you get rid of Monaco it can’t come back. Monaco is Monaco. It has to stay.
There are 20+ other races during the year to watch ‘racing’ on (that said, with current regs some races barely contain any more overtakes than Monaco!)
This footage of two of the greatest drivers of all time battling in equal machinery proves one thing, undoubtedly:
Giedo van der Garde is the GOAT
Oh really? Hamilton caught and passed Van der Garde to win the race.
It was at that moment Giedo realized he would ruin motorsport with his dominance and decided to lift off
Meanwhile, Giedo van der Garde..
hamilton overtook van der garde later on pullin the same manouvre he pulled on vettel in this race...actually he won both rounds of Lausitz 2005
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Formula_3_Euro_Series read the season results, and let that sink in :)
and a fun fact: this was almost a spec series :) vettel and ham both had mercedes engines... season ended with ham crashing the entire field... like destroying... "obviously" he had the "better mercedes engine" than the rest :)
Haters will say he had the best car. The dude is clearly good at his craft.
But Vettel was a rookie and Hamilton in his 2nd year^^
Haters clearly dunno much about 2005 F3 then...
@Gideon Ratke so he has to win in a Ferrari? Or toro rosso? I'm not one of his biggest fan but the argument of lewis wins only because he has a great car it's dumb! Schumi won with a dominant car, senna won with a dominant car, prost won with a dominant every great champion got a DOMINANT CAR. To drive a great car you need also a great driver
@Gideon Ratke winning is a thing but winning a championship is different... You said russell and bottas done well with mercedes but at the end did Bottas won the championship? Thats what matters... Probably some of them would have won the championship in that mercedes but apart from Verstappen I'm not saying anyone capable of winning against lewis especially after he lost to Rosberg in the same car
@@lassebuchen1230 but.. but hamilton is the champion of the season?
This is the best ding-dong battle I've ever seen
You must watch Reneé Arnoux vs Gilles Villeneuve in 1979.
Marco Túlio Moreira I would love to watch that! Which battle would you recommend to watch?
In my opinion there are two interesting f1 battle: First - Piquet vs Senna (both brazilian) in Hungaroring 1986. Some people consider the best f1 overtake all of time. Second - Massa vs Kubica, 2007 Japan, under the rain.
+Marco Túlio Moreira aha, the Rene Gilles battle looked fake. It was so great it was like a fake dream, not reality lol.
+1 for Rene&Gilles in Dijon.
EPIC and best ever imho
I forgot to breath on that clip ....what a pair but Lewis was just BRILLIANT!
F1 needs this again in 2016. Hamilton vs Vettel, Mercedes vs Ferrari
Looks like it may happen this year.
Vojtěch Klepetko Lol so far that's what 2017 seems like it's going to be
Congrats
Vojtěch Klepetko there ya go m8
Vojtěch Klepetko Message from 2017: You're welcome.
These guys have been at war for a decade, that's crazy. This is why I love motorsports.
"...this is a young man that will go a long way, I think, Sebstian Vettel." He's no idea how correct he is eight years ago.
While it's a interesting race to see two world champions battling in their rookie years, I find it somewhat fun to see Van der Garde beating these two, albeit eight years ago.
Hamilton won the race
cioxciox meh, I never saw the race so I was more just pointing out that van de Garde was in the lead but purely it was bad wording from my side.
horrendous wording. he was pulling away the entire time Seb fought with Lewis. Lewis actually caught up and won this race. that is a humiliation for VDG, quite far from VDG "beating" HAM
4:02 "Germanys next big star"
oh boy. the commentator was so right :)
Germans nxt star vs Britain nxt star I'd say he got that 1 rt
Dusty Brother at the end of 2018 who will become the biggest star with #5 world titles erm not the German haha 😂
@@stephenwhite3832 I think that you missed the reason for the comment.
Stephen White The Germans are better in everything, except that.... Hamilton is winning the WC in a ??? In a German Car
Loco.loc53 built in Britain
And from this moment, 2 legends were born
7 WDC between them, and surely more will follow for both drivers. Simply sensational.
Soon to be 9
@@sar9781 5-4
10 now
11 in 2 months
Its 11 between them😊✌🏾🏴
According to legend, they are still racing to this day, 12 years on...
Oh wait, it's true.
15.11.2020 , yes
Just 2 years after this & Hamilton is in Formula One nearly getting the championship in his first season
Crazy
They fought directly with each other more in that race than in their whole future careers in F1
we are blessed to have witnessed the domination from two of the greatest!
Better than 2018 championship
hamilton still beating vettel
@@jonathan4599 you mean Mercedes Hybrid technology with Bottas as wingman
@@DerBurner1709 Salty.
@@DerBurner1709 nice one crybaby!! :'( :'(
@@DerBurner1709 ok boomer
Hamilton and Vettel are old school. It's nice to still have some characters left in F1.
see now that is what is important. max is gud but only when opponent is ready to backout. max came in at age of 17 without experience of f2 and f3 and is over aggressive
he experienced f3. lost to ocon
Amazing driving from the then two future F1 giants!
That was amazing stuff. Middle of 2017 season, it's very cool to see that!
Woa Hamilton Worked for that. major props to Sebastian Vettel
“Vettel can’t race wheel to wheel”
That was absolutely awesome. 2 greats of this generation.
Absolutely brilliant stuff. Great video
Well said, great metaphor!!! I can't get tired in watching his overtakes, those are all amazing.
That was some superb driving by both of them! Vettel defended the hell out of that position.
now they are battling as two 4-time f1 world champions.. amazing drivers
Very nice, thanks!😋
Thank you for this beauty of a battle, youtube algorithm. :)
I'd like to see more of this in F1, Hamilton makes things with the car that no one cant, he is really the best. There's no way to hold him back, no one can do it. Just amazing!!
It's confirmed, van der Garde > Hamilton > Vettel
what are you smoking?
It was a joke, come on
Nathan Hamilton caught Van Der Garde and won the race.
dailydaymk poor VDG
are u sick?
Nice thank you man
13 years later and things haven’t changed, Hamilton still overtaking vettel
Guess you forgot the numerous times this year vettel has overtaken Hamilton :)
He didn't say Vettel wasn't overtaking Hamilton anymore, he stated that Hamilton is still overtaking Vettel after all these years, just look at Russia, Vettel couldn't even stay ahead for 1 lap.
@@kjelle3147 Hamilton is hands down one of the best drivers right now in f1 and certainly deserves his championship. But I don't think it was because of his skill that he overtook Vettel in Sochi but rather the fact that Vettel had to push so hard on the lap before and therefore had less grip.
Just what I'm thinking though.
@@lukadzidic8211 yeah we saw it last week ;)
The difference is you probably didn't take time to learn about the ERS? Vettel used everything out of his ERS to make up the time before he pitted (+2sec down to Hamilton) and (+24sec I think for the pitstop). After that Vettel got past him when Hamilton came out of the pits and when Hamilton went for it Vettel didn't had any ERS anymore to defend. I didn't say Hamilton is bad, but plz stop doing like he's a god or something just because he again overtook Vettel, first look at the facts and not only on what happened. Most of you are just here to joke against Vettel fans to make you feel better about your favourite driver (just saying ;) )
this lewis hamilton guy is pretty good, he should race in f1
Love this stretch-o-vision man.
Haha I was wondering for a moment if these cars are actually that low :P
That much downforce its squashed the cars
Thanks for this excellent video, I can´t understand why is not possible the same in f1, of course you have different cars but I mean the emotion and the "real racing" experience of a head to head with two drivers. This is something completely lost in f1, today we see an expensive parade with two hours long and some interviews.... that´s all.
Insane probably the best driver of all times
Quite right, can't imagine why Van der Garde didn't go on to dominate F1 like this
Sure Hamilton best driver all times.
oh my god, what a defence by vettel and I have never known their rivalry in the past like this.
You don't see this type of racing between Ham and Ros. As soon as both cars get side by side something blows up.
The Bahrain 2014 GP is the only exception but, I definitely see your point :)
You're correct. Bahrain 2014 was a fantastic battle for position and a true rarity, it seems.
Bahrain 2014 was as good as this.
Slick Salo lololollolloloolll ham the best??? hilarious
Slick Salo stats say vettel got more championships. vettel won with a torro rosso, even overtook Hamilton several times in a torro rosso when ham was in a Mclaren for Christ sake in 2008
this was his first year at F3 right off the much slower BMW ADAC series, call it a dismal 5th place overall but unknowst to many he was rookie of the year at just 16 yrs of age. the next year he was runner-up to di resta narrowly missing by 11 points, but as niki lauda said, vettel turning his focus to BMW Sauber towards the end caused him the championship although you really can't blame any aspiring F1 driver for that. 2007 he fills in for an injured robert kubica, his performance of which was enough for toro rosso to fire scott speed and give vettel the phone call. gets his first win in 2008 then runner up in 2009. world champion 2010-2013. everything went fast for him. i guess he's really hard-wired to be quick.
elterrible06 Vettel was 18 here. Verstappen made his f1 debut at 17.
@@MT-pv2rf Vettel youngest to win WDC
@@MT-pv2rfif lewis was as privileged as max to be in the sport at 17 he would be on double digit championships
If seb was as privileged as max to be in the sport at 17 he would be on at least 5 or 6 championships😂
Hamilton is so freaking talented
-_- And seb ?
It was Vettel's first year and Lewis 's third year in the sport !
@@ananthu8534 It was Hamilton's second season in F3 and he completely dominated the championship.
What did Vettel do in his second season? He got beat by Paul Di Rests in the same car.
@@MT-pv2rf and won a race in a toro rosso FUCK HAMILTON
@@MT-pv2rf Hold up genius, you bullshit so much, vettel had 4 retirements in 2006, and Paul Di Resta had 1, Vettel only lost the championship by 3 points. He was better than Paul in all the races they participated. Hamilton was in better car performance wise.
the commentator said the race isnt won in the first 5 laps, that statement stays true to this day as we saw Vettel lose out at Suzuka as he didnt have the patience to wait for his opportunity to pass Max
The best battle between them we will ever see 😂😂😂
Great racing from two top quality drivers! Loving it! :-)
this was amazing, omg!
Hamilton literally sat inches away from him for half a race, gets in front and is 2 car lengths ahead in seconds. Anyone who thinks these two are the same talent wise is very much mistaken..
Freaking awesome! Pure racing, nothing to do with tyre strategies or DRS, just good old fashioned motor racing.
Pure racing! Pure speed! Pure skill! Well done for best drivers!
two of my favorite current f1 drivers and even if your not fans of either you have to appreciate this battle it was awesome!
I use to say Senna was the best
than Schumacher & now ..... Lewis Hamilton. His achievements is unmatched by anyone at all.
why do people hate him so much & yet they love formula 1.
If Lewis breaks all the records in F1 is he the best oh dahh, it's like Usain Bolt breaks 100m record's & people still says he's not a talent Ben Johnson still better...... people are very bias & mentally have hate in them....wake up and enjoy the Sport.
WOW INCREDIBLE BATTLE! I was rooting for Lewis as if this was live :)
But I think they are both BRILLIANT drivers
Would looove to see these to battle like this in this years championship.
Vettel did some impressive defensive driving there, but Hamilton was visibly faster. It took him that long to make the pass only because there aren't many passing opportunities on that track.
This reflects the difference between the two, Hamilton was already at the time more patient than Vettel will ever be.
El cambio de trazada de Hamilton fue magistral
Really fun to watch after having watched Suzuka this morning...
Hamilton and Vettel : Two rain specialist
1:30 "Lewis Hamilton already this year's champion" the announcer got it right for f1 2018 lmao
2019? 6
Hamilton é um monstro... 🏁
Just amazed by the livery of Hamilton's car. Back then in 2005 and now in 2018....The silver and green combo. And that silver arrow emblazing in front. Had he ever thought while in McLaren that Mercedes would be formed and he would be winning 3championships with them. (4th this year).
Give a like to reach out to Hamilton.
Greatest fight for young drivers... and future champions
Lewis is an outright dog. He truly hunts and hunts and hunts until he gets the kill. Super defending from Vettel as well! No DRS needed. Just pure race craft!
not bad for a 16 year old fresh off the much slower BMW ADAC series, holding his own against the much more experienced lewis hamilton. vettel was rookie of the year that season.
BUT BEATEN THE YEAR AFTER IN THE SAME CAR BY PAUL DI RESTA. YES THE FORCE INDIA DRIVER... HOW FUNNY IS THAT???? LOOOLLLLLLLLLL
because he concentrated at the job at BMW Sauber as a test driver
Stop lying. Vettel was 18 years old here. That's old enough to show his raw natural ability against Hamilton who had been showing his skill years before this. Hamilton was just as skilled as this in karting so why are you acting like Vettel was too young to be able to perform here? Pathetic. Max Verstappen was 17 when he made his f1 debut so what are you going on about? Excuses, excuses excuses!
Hamilton is more naturally gifted than Vettel.
Harry The Cunt, Paul Di Who??? Never heard of him. I have however heard of Sebastian Vettle, 4 times F1 World Champion.
Mark Mark and still: he got owned by the Noname Pauly
Edit: Paul is an awesome DTM Driver
yeah and definitely one of the better overtakes i've seen!
imagine being Van Der Garde. pull away as Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel are slowing each other down in their battle. eventually Lewis gets past Seb, catches up, and passes you for the win.
nothing you can do while the two greatest talents in the late 2000s breeze on 11 WDCs combined
It is basically impossible for anyone to not bring up Senna in any discussion in this video. Its kind of annoying.
Shush.
but senna :)))
Senna is just a name drop for people who try and pretend they know a lot about F1. He is the most overrated driver simply because he went and got himself killed so you can speculate so much about what could have been without needing results to back it up. Schumacher is the best and his results support that, Lewis has more skill but he does not have enough discipline.
Hamilton. Vettel. Hat off.
Fantastic Video its a shame I didnt Follow those races at the time
It would be awesome if we see a battle like that in F1. Awesome one
this is what pisses me off, we don't get to see this kind of driving from Vettel in F1, and yet, he managed to brake a shitload of records... that's why people question his skills even though everybody knows he has some...
When he can focus on driving instead of having to question his team's decisions over and over again, and for good reason, he doesn't make nearly as many mistakes... in RB all he had to do is drive...at Ferrari he has to be the judge jury and executioner, that's too much to be flawless at any one of them...
he was the youngest pole sitter and youngest champion (maybe max will take that). also most consecutive wins (9 i think). no significant records
plenty of brits admire vettels talent you mong.
@@lukadzidic8211 did i say he has no significant achievements? dont put words in my comment, i specifically said records. you can look up f1 stats, his most memorable is youngest WC which i hope verstappen cant break
This comment from 5 years ago is so spot on now
I enjoyed that. :)
Just seen this video. Just amazing to see it. if only any one of them could have known in 2005 who those 2 would be..
Awesome battle!
Whole lot of respect to Hamilton
HAMILTON A BADASS
Vettel a BIGGER BADASS for using a weaker car.
I dont even want to start with this stupidity >.>
mmhhmm yes, u support Lewis, good on ya. >.>
This is a spec series.
They're using the same damn car. That weaker car argument is BS.
Hamilton was just better.
Tumbi Mtika HOW ABOUT CAR SETUP AND VETTEL BEING A ROOKIE YOU DUMBASS?
What a great clip. Wish current f1 was just as lively!
Show! Very good!
made me Revive the True Emotion and love of Motoring!
also reminded me of the Great Controversies in Formula One History.
more like the disputes of Ayrton Senna and his Rivals, even as Lewis Hamilton always quotes Ayrton as his Great inspiration!
and so it is not surprising
the achievements
(how to reach Schumacher's marks)
and the right title in Formula 1 2018 ...!
...congratulations!...
Vettel shined just a tad brighter than Lewis over the years.
Shaun Dewey not shining brighter now. Hamilton has more success than Vettel in f1. 4 titles each but Hamilton is miles ahead in race wins and poles.
Yeah this didn’t age well at all, Vettel doesn’t compare to Lewis at all lol
@@SoulCaliburDeathCrie Didn't age well at all! lol
LOL
Wow! I've suddenly developed a huge respect for Vettel...
A great battle between two great drivers!
both drivers were and still are absolutely fantastic
Silence: is the Genius from Stevenage!!
What people fail to realize here is that in exact same cars (spec wise) defending takes a good drivers, but overtaking, takes a great driver.
That's why I rate Hamilton higher than Vettel.
Vettel was 17 and Hamilton was 20. You might not think that age makes a difference but it clearly does. Hamilton was further along his development.
Vettel was a rookie this saison while Hamilton was not a rookie and more experience than Vettel. and btw the F3 cars are not the same. Read the reglement and you find out every car is different
At that year f3 wasn't a spec series xD
@@lukadzidic8211 still all the manufacturers had different aero atleast
This was more entertaining than most of the f1 races so far!!!
Thanks for the repeat in 2012 Texas race boys!
Watch at 1.5x speed and it's just like F1
And make sure to turn the volume down so that it also "sounds" like F1. lol.
I just don't get why he didn't use DRS
Fantastic defending from Vettel in a season wich Hamilton absolutely dominated. He had the better set-up car and here you can see how compared to him Vettel was struggling like no tomorrow.
Mainly since and because Britain 2008, when he finished 1m08s ahead of the rest in a soaking Race
+Fateless Stuff - a lot of that had to do with circumstance. raikkonen was catching him at a rate of knots before the idiotic ferrari pitwall didn't change his tyres in the pits and left him out on worn intermediates.
Stop talking rubbish. Hamilton's car is sliding around all over the place behind Vettel whose car clearly looks more planted in these conditions.
Its a spec series so there cars are identical but in terms of setup it looks like Hamilton's car has a loose front end, probably because of how comfortable he is with oversteer while Vettels car looks like its dialed in to the track and is on rails.
Hamiltons superior car control and reflexes are clearly visible in the video. If they were in the same team now Hamilton would eat him for breakfast
M T Classic Ham fanboy who cant admit that both drivers are brilliant
Francesco MagikFurli it’s not even that read the comment properly
outstanding racing battle!!
what a beautiful bit of racing!