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13 Reasons Why MOST People Should Not Buy a Used Mountain Bike!
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Have you ever bought a used mountain bike? Maybe you have and like me got lucky and the bike was just as described, you took it out of the box or brought it home and went on a ride without any issues! Unfortunately it is more rare than not, and most people that we’ve met with over the years buy what they feel is a good deal but then have to immediately invest a lot more money into the bike just to get it rideable. In many cases they end up spending more than a new one would have cost especially in today’s bike market! #bikingroots, #usedmountainbikes, #usedmtb
Not to say there are not great deals on used bikes but you need to know what you are looking for and know what you may be risking by taking that plunge into the used mountain bike market.
We discussed and thought about some reasons to avoid and go over it in the video. Let us know your experience. Are you a guru used mountain bike shopper or did you get burned?!
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Yes, we’ve seen some really sad situations where people buy terrible bikes and they are stuck with it. I would be so upset if I found out a bike I bought was stolen. 😳
Yep, unfortunately yes. Yeah, that would not be good if you found out it was stolen. I’d feel guilty riding it and feel obligated to return it to its original owner!
@@BikingRoots have you ever worked on a bike that you thought was stolen?
But the worst thing not only in bike industry is lack of standard and most of new hardware are practicly not serviceable and poorly made even ✌🏻High end✌🏻parts and most companies claim sustainability, what a joke🤡
@@alisebailey5071 Yes unfortunately
@@simseven4967 Yep, that can be very frustrating. Not sure why there are always so many! At least on derailleur hangers lately there seems to be some agreements being made
Yes, the part about the spare parts is true. But the prices falling? Are you kidding?😂 For the price of a crappy new bike, you can buy 5 old ones, each of which will be many times better than the new one.
And then there's the take off parts. Lots of people buy a new bike, have a better fork than what's on the bike, so they swap the fork and now they're selling for cheap. Got a 130mm Recon for $55 because the dude just wanted rid of it as it was taking up room. It works great.
I see take off droppers, people selling spare wheels because the hub doesn't have enough engagement or they have better wheels. They're not replacing the whole bike, hence why they buy whole bikes, but they have parts they like more than what's on the bike. A lot of patience and some knowledge and you can get great deals.
Thanks for the comment, depends on the bikes of course. At least in our market, used mountain bikes tend to hit a bottom floor price and hover around that. Too often I have people (usually new to the sport) come in with an older bike that they paid like $400-500 for (so maybe originally only saving 100-200 off of new (sometimes the seller gives incorrect original purchase price data), then it needs new derailleur, chain, brakes, hanger, rear wheel, tires, tubes. They were much better off getting a new Marin Bobcat for $500-699 than buying that bike. Sometimes though, yes you can find some deals on some older ones with higher quality parts that will work better than some of the new ones as long as sizing and geo are good.
@@dvs620 yes this is true as long as you know what you are buying! For experienced people that do their research yes they can upgrade on the cheap especially if they do it themselves. Other times people buy parts that unfortunately aren’t compatible with their bike at all or would require even more things to modify… sometimes it works out sometimes they end up having to re-sell that part because they can’t spend the needed money to make the upgrade work. Part of learning though. Bikes have too many standards and it can get confusing for beginners!
Bike salesman says buy a new bike! 🙃 However, to be fair, if I was uninformed then all the advice was actually spot on! The most crucial thing is the frame, everything else can be fixed.
Thanks for the comment and glad you saw at least some use for people who are uninformed or maybe didn’t know all the things to look for which was the goal. Yes, thankfully even with all the standards out there, for the most part, you can find the parts needed to re-build up an older bike. That break even amount is what I see people go over a lot. If they don’t mind and enjoy the process or doing it themselves, nothing wrong with that, but for some it is deflating and daunting when they just get into a new sport. Take care
I've bought two used hardtails and they've both been good. But, in reality, I'm buying the frame. My GT was $400 and I've added everything new but the brakes. I'm into it for $1k over 3 years, but the spec is far better than a new $1k bike.
My Trek gets all the leftover parts from the GT and it's a fun single speed that, until recently after watching one of your videos, I only used as a street bike. Took it on a trail like 3 weeks ago and it was a lot of fun.
I think you'd have more success buying used hardtails because of less components than a used fill suspension. Unless the full suspension is less than 2 years old, I'd be hesitant to buy used.
thanks for all the comments! Nice! Yeah, fun to see a project, get the parts you need, and re-build it into something pretty cool and unique to you. I do enjoy that process. Yes, agree on the hardtails vs full suspension used. We tend to have more issues with older full suspensions that need a lot of work and harder to find parts
I had to get my cassette fixed on my bike cause I always used the highest gear on my Norco 2
My experiences over the years of buying used mountain bikes has been positive overall. Then again I do my own bike maintenance and servicing so I am rarely unable to fix any small issues. I am a bit more aware of what issues any potential bike may have. I was even interested in purchasing the red Cannondale Trigger you recently sold that you had listed on Pinkbike, but the PITA difficult to find parts for servicing of the rear shock kept me from jumping on the deal.
Overall, you list makes a lot of sense for most bike riders. This is especially true for someone buying a used bike that is just getting into the sport. A bike with a lot of unknown problems that can cost a lot of money to fix can QUICKLY turn off someone to the sport. The only thing I would suggest you tell viewers of your channel is that never except on blind faith that something is "great" just being you are scoring a deal, educate yourself to become an informed consumer!
Thank you for sharing! Glad you can fix your own issues which is a huge plus when buying used. Oh no way, ha yeah I remember that Cannondale well! Yes the rear shock we had to send to Fox so yeah limited on parts and who can service it so I totally get that. Thanks for the comment and recommendation. Yes, sometimes we trust people too much and don't always do our due diligence and get blinded by a "good" deal. Take care!
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Some good advice in this video. In my experience some of the aluminum alloy frames can get stress cracks over time even when they have not been ridden hard. Yes, if the frame has a lifetime manufacturer's warranty you are still SOL if you bought it second hand. When inspecting, make sure the frame is clean and look it over very closely in a place with good lighting.
Thanks for the comment ant tip on cleaning and good lighting. Yes, we can easily overlook that and that is a great tip. Yes, I’ve unfortunately seen cracked alloy and carbon over the years. With carbon, we’ve been able to refer or sometimes fix, but alloy is tough. Take care
Just don't be dumb and buying a used bike is really quite easy, you can always say no when buying in person and I like to fix any issues and do all my servicing since once you learn it you don't have to pay for it again
thanks for the comment. Yeah, you’re probably better at it than most, me included! I remember years ago buying a used bike for my son, had to drive an hour to see it (houston is too big) and it was not as described. Ended up stripping it to the frame which I knew what I was doing and turned out in the end, but I had to re-negotiate at pick up and it was frustrating and awkward (for me).
All my bikes I've bought used. Sometimes you get them absolutely perfect (my trail bike), but you can also get completely boned (my dirt jumper lol). I'd say one or two things from this list on a used bike is fine, as long as you're able to recognize the issue and negotiate the price, or are getting a smoking deal. I got a nearly mint condition, custom dh bike for $1000, but needed suspension service and new brakes which cost $875 together. So $1875 for an amazing dh bike is still very good, yeah it's almost double what I paid, but brand new for a the same specs would be triple that.
My dirt jumper though.. Oh boy! Bought for $365, needed new headset, new brake, new tires, new grips, new seat, new pedals, new hub bearings front and rear, new bottom bracket. I've lost track how much I've put into it, but I've done all the work myself and it's been a learning experience for sure. Definitely would have been a better deal to get a brand new one!
Thanks for sharing! Nice work on the DH bike and glad that you could get it going. Sorry about the DJ but at least you recognize it and like you said, it’s a learning experience that hopefully you can use on future projects. Take care!
You need to watch out for the really clean bike that has had a lot of pressure washing which ends up with many bearings being pitted with rust. I think that a used bike is worth buying if you can do stuff yourself and the bike is not too old but was sold new with some lower level parts that you want to upgrade. Also, manufacturers are not speccing higher end bikes with Shimano XTR any more due to the SRAM electrification of the gear train etc. Also they will use Shimano derailleur/cassette but then use a less reliable but slightly lighter carbon crank with a large diameter BB with smaller faster wearing bearings. Companies often skimp on the wheels so those may need changing and there are many good value Chinese carbon wheelsets available. In fact buying used may be the only way to get the specs that you want because companies seem reticent to sell bare frames or they are priced too high. Great video with some gems of experience.
Thanks for the comment and the additional insight with your experience/wisdom! Very true on all points. Take care!
I build my bikes from ebay parts with bids. I got some good stuff for a fracture of new and had no issues. I do know what I want and what to look for I'm almost add my dream bike for neaarly 550.
I used to buy a brand new bike every 2 to 3 years but I stopped buying new bikes many moons ago, the prices just became outrageous and unreachable, way too expensive! So, I still get a "new to me bike" thats used every 2 to 3 years. I recently picked up a like new E Mountain bike a 2022 Giant Reign E+ 3 with upgraded Zeb fork, and sram wireless shifting and with receipt and warranty unit December for a nice 3100.00. They have some good deals just have to be patient. Some sellers try to sell bikes for what they cost new, it's crazy sometimes.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Yeah some of the higher end bikes are getting pretty crazy but I have to think back to when I started and actually it isn’t too different when you factor in inflation over the last few decades. Nice, congrats on the Giant! I didn’t talk about it in the video but I’m a bit nervous with used ebikes (motor, battery, controller, wiring). Just more things to think about and go wrong! But glad you have a warranty and hope it is reliable for you. Take care
@BikingRoots my Giant had about 400 miles on her, so thar comes out to 200 miles a year, not bad at all, the person i got it from brought it for his son to ride with him, but his son was into other sports. So it was not ridden much.
@@david029014 oh nice, yeah that’s not too many miles. Should be good for a while!
If you're willing to put in the work yourself brake bleed kits are like $70 and a you can buy brake pads in packs of 4 or 8 for very cheap. That doesn't count the time cost of doing it yourself though, so do take that into consideration.
I just bought a used kinda mid-range bike, not quite high end, but not low end either, and it had been left in a guys yard for a year or two. I'm fixing it up, I knew what I was getting into, but I did find a stripped bolt I need to fix. I didn't notice when I was looking at the bike.
Thanks for the tips, God bless
You can get kits way cheaper than that even! I had hydraulic brakes on a bike, tried bleeding them several times before realizing the piston was blown. Cable disc brakes are the way to go especially if you throw it in the back of the car a lot.
@@randomvideosn0where How do cable disc brakes compare to the hydraulic sort? I have had a hard time finding good info on that. Everyone is just like "Get the fancy kind" and I don't know if I agree with them
@@JosiahWendell-sr8vi Everyone says hydraulic have better "modularity" and "stopping power" compared to cable brakes. Maybe it is because I am strong and heavy and not a professional rider, but using cable brakes I have no modulation issues and I can lock up the wheels on dry pavement.
@@randomvideosn0where Thanks for the info. Sounds like cable disc brakes would be fine for me as a very casual rider. If my current brake set goes out, i'm going to look into getting cable brakes instead. They are cheaper and I always worry about my lines and fluid in my current set
Thanks for the comment and sharing your project! Glad you knew what you were getting yourself into even if you did find some stripped bolts. Good luck with the project and thanks for watching
Michigan ? That’s where I live
Everything upwards of 2k€/$ is an insane large price for a bike. In the used bike market, at least in Germany, you can get a lot of bike for just 500€. Yeah ok wheels might be untrue, some other components might be damaged. But taking it to a bikeshop and invest another 400€ would make this bike comparable to bikes in 3k€ range.
Also, there's no real problem with used bikes, more of a problem with a selling platform with trusted users.
And of course it's not anywhere necessary to buy most up to date bikes. Not new and not used. Reuse, upcycle and buy used, that's key to save the environment but most of all to save cash.
Thank you for sharing and for your comment and greetings in Germany! Never been but seems like a cool country… some day! Yes, I realize that for some people, the math just doesn’t add up and it is better to buy used and fix it up and still stay under a new price. I’ve just seen a lot of people go over that amount (especially after Covid) because new prices have been so reduced. Regarding sustainability, yes if we want to be sustainable we do need to not constantly feel we need to keep buying the latest thing. Thankfully, most high quality mountain bikes can live on for a long time, even cracked carbon frame bikes can usually be repaired and continue living on for someone to use. My hold up with bike market is the junk at departments stores (at least here in the US). They are meant to basically barely work and be thrown away. Such a waste of resources. Some things (like bikes) just can’t be built super easily at a cheap price. Lots of parts and labor involved to produce it. Take care and thanks again for comment!
Hm not on the payroll but still used as the thumbnail… 🤔 jk miss you guys!
Ha! I was waiting for you to notice and claim your royalties... except you signed my contract and I basically own anything you did while you were at Biking Roots, sorry
What has your experience been buying a used mountain bike?! Are you a pro or have you made some horrible mistakes?! Let me know