Michael Alig's Celebrity Dinner Party at Red Zone in 1989 - unedited
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Fabulous celebrities like The Baroness, publishing magnate Malcolm Forbes and Michael Alig's mother Elke enjoyed this tasteful event hosted by Michael Alig at Red Zone, which honored the then-influential gossip columnists The Hollywood Twins. FYI: Malcolm Forbes was invited to the party by Project X Chief Photographer John Simone. Video by Nelson Sullivan
People now don't realize that Nelson was carrying a full on gigantic home camera, mostly one handed, almost everywhere he went. And those batteries weren't great. He must have had so much equipment with him, but I'm amazed he was vlogging in a time well before the proliferation of the internet. All of these videos are a treasure of old school New York.
Exactly I started to google what cameras were around in 1987 they were HUGE!! Also didn’t have front facing screens. You had to look thru the hole on top.
"but I'm amazed he was vlogging in a time we'll before the proliferation of the internet"
That right there 🪙
Is the guy in the thumbnail Andre Melendez? And now we have phones to vlog our lives. That's on UA-cam or social media.
Honestly dude is a legend for filming all of this
I like to think Nelson would have reached a high Plato & Rue Paul helping him💙
There needs to be a movie made about Nelson.
I believe that will happen one day
He already made it ❤️
starring brad pitt!
Absolutely!!
@@teeniebeenie8774 no
Thank you for sharing all these with us. They are a rare inside look at the NYC club kid scene that should be considered part cultural history. You my fine sir, are a party god.
Money, success, fame, glamour
@Lowa Case good move
Yes!!!!
I was there from 97 to 2001
Also thank you to NYU for archiving, digitizing and uploading them to YT, very interesting videos
80s vlog. nothing more badass. damn i hope nelson is able to see that his videos are STILL being enjoyed & watched by so many ppl even in 2021. whatever universe he's in now, i just hope hes able to peak thru to planet earth in 2021 & see this & know that even 4-5 decades later, people are STILL thinking about him & are inspired by him in so many diff ways. what an original authentic icon
3 decades...
I feel this 🤌🏾
Can’t say for certain but I have a feeling he could see that we are all watching it or would be. I’m sad for him he died so young still.
I wish I could have met and hung out with Nelson. He really seems like he was a true gem .. RIP
Smelly asshole Michelle.
He was. A gentleman.
I am a club kid went to all these clubs know all these people I enjoyed them then And now on these films
excellent to have documented it just as real as it was. thanks
Was the scene as crazy fun as it seems in the videos
@Mussels Marinara everything you just said you could've got from the party monster documentary like no tea no shade but-
@@thedrunkenramblingsnorthea4201 Yea, I've learned to just ignore any comments on here from people that say they were there or knew the club kids. Unless they have their own channel full of videos, I just assume they are full of crap.
Was it really as fabulous as you think? I'm sure people had a good time but it just doesn't seem as glamorous as the legend.
Awesome
Nelson was so far ahead of the times. I love coming back to these videos every few years. I was only 11 when this was taking place but I grew up in the rave scene and always heard of these fabulous characters.
They were all super poor and fabulous. So they thought, but it was fun!
Same here i was about 10 when this was going on but i e booted the party's and raves here in England in the 90s, we had some great clubs, I'm just so intruiged with the club kid and especially michael alig❤❤
Same here i was about 10 when this was going on but i enjoyed the party's and raves here in England in the 90s, we had some great clubs, I'm just so intruiged with the club kid and especially michael alig❤❤
Fair play to Malcolm Forbes- he inherited the magazine from his father in the late 50s and worked his ass off to turn it into the hugely successful global media empire it is today. But its good to see that he made up for lost time partying in the 70s and 80s, and at this point here he seems to be genuinely happy and doesn't care who he's seen with or what people might say. Good on him.
Nelson was a genius to get all this footage. He probably thought the scene was about to break out
All this footage should be in a vault uuug the greatest memories I have of those days from the tunnel to Mars than red zone limelight & of course the notorious sound factory!!!!!!!!!!!RIP CLUB SCENE BUT CHEERS TO MEMORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you know Nelson, I'm jealous if you did
Netflix..c mon..there’s plenty of material here for a great documentary. Pleaaaase
you want them to take this footage you can already watch, cut parts out, talk over it, and potentially put their own spin on it?
can I ask why?
@@smatchimo55 maybe interview some
Of the folks that are still around. As many as they can get that aren’t passed on. Would be nice for them to reminisce about the good old days and talk a little about Nelson
So true, I would love to watch every single video he ever made
Fuck Netflix
Umm Limelight, Glory Daze, pee-ew, Party Monster, Gerardo's( for years in a row) There are tons of footage and documentation of Michael Alig and the Club Kids even including Nelson's vids.🤷♂️
He had no idea or maybe he did that 3 months later he would pass away. RIP Nelson. What a legend.
nelson the very first vlogger
He literally invented it and didn’t live long enough to know that he was way ahead of his time. Especially with how big the cameras were back then.
nelson was so before his time!!!!
@P McGill i'm not sure exactly.... there is something fascinating in the mundane...
@P McGill you're right. you say what you feel. but i think nelson liked humanity as a whole and was fascinated not only by the brilliance, but by the mundane.... this is just my assumption
deadass though
these videos need to be made into a tv show, they are a piece of history
Yes❗
This is the tv show. Why does it need to be anything else.
@@MarxAvianoi think i mean just more catalogued and put into order with people's name's and like a catch up on where they are now, that would be great to see what people are still with us and how they moved on❤❤
Im so happy Nelson recorded all this or I would never have been able to see it! Good stuff!
Ok captain obvious!
I feel like we are all lucky to meet Nelson. It would have been so sad if we didn't meet him. These videos take me away so much. I forget about everything in my life. It seems like a real shame that he didn't have a family. It's sad that so many of the people in these videos are gone like basically Nelson's whole family and life.
He had family. He even documents visiting his family. What do you mean he didn’t have a family?
@@yorkandpomona 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Worried about the local crack addicts stealing his camera, and, the idea people might think they are "wilding" as they traverse the city. Boy, if this doesn't capture the times!
These are such hidden gems
I’m obsessed with Nelson and his life.
They don’t make people like Nelson anymore. He was truly one of a kind. He had a lot of life a head of him. Gone to soon. RIP Nelson.
Only 3 months from this date.
Nelson seemed to know everyone. And I love his commentary. I wish Trade (Frederick) would do behind the scenes comments to fill in what happened since Nelson is no longer with us.
It's sad to think that Nelson would only be with us for another 2 months from this night 🙏🙌🕊️💙🌈💜
I think it's funny how you can tell the bright ass light shining in all their faces is driving them crazy b/c they are having their "fun"...... but at the same time b/c they want the "spotlight" they don't say anything.......I love Nelson....I love his work & I'm thankful for ALL he did yo!!!
Tiff Cook 18:17
A couple people said something to him or under their breath but the best part was Nelson couldn't care less
R.I.P Nelson
He seemed like a laid back character. He's definitely a person i would hung out with
Yes, he’s light and love now.
These videos are part of NYC's club scene history from his perspectives. :)
God i love nelson for moments like 6:14. He just doesnt care what people think and i respect that so much about him. I wish i could just spend one day with him back then and juat do whatever.
This party didn’t go as expected I think. Everybody is obviously waiting for something good to happen, and you can even tell that the ones that are always around the camera are desperately trying to create some kind of chaos to breakup the boredom.
I think they're waiting for food the majority of the video lol. They haven't eaten yet during this whole video. Just probably drank a shitload of alcohol. Thats why you keep hearing people talk about food & going into the kitchen & just waiting around lol.
You can see a tiny bit or terror in everyone's eyes. 1989 was one of the scariest years in AIDS history. It was fun, because no one cared where you were and no one was talking to a cell phone, but scary in the fact that you were told on the news to assume that 75% of the people in the bars and clubs you went to at night were HIV positive. That fear remained until around mid 1990's. Anyone who had a blotch on their skin or lost weight fast was marked.
you'd never know it unless you were there .. i wasn't but could only imagine the fear
i dont see any terror in "everyones" eyes.
Michael Szymanski I'm gonna go ahead and assume they weren't thinking about aids as much as you think
it's something they do when they wanna amplify the threat of aids and do everything to diminish their own faults in the spreading of it ... I just smile and nod .. let them blame the world for a self inflicted problem ...
Michael Szymanski. Safe sex and condoms was a topic on tv and radio back then. I was very afraid of having unsafe sex.
Nelson’s impact will live forever, if he only knew
I'm loving these videos!! Read disco bloodbath 10 or whatever years ago and got hooked, these people fascinate me!! I will watch them all!! Nelson was so before the times!!
loveshhisunsets08 who's the Arthur of Disco Blood bath ? it's a good read, yeah?
Amanda Orly James St. James wrote it
I LOVE ❤️ TRADE !! I used to see him at Weekends in Atlanta before he moved to New York. GORGEOUS ! And he was a total sweetheart . 💋
Aaww that's nice
Nelson was the classiest, most down to earth, and best looking gay man there. He didnt have to put makeup on or dress outragous to get noticed. He was comfortable with himself and that is why everybody liked him.
@@athandog Nelson was joking. They were having problems getting an cab and they thought it was because of how they were dressed. Apparently, you don't understand sarcastic American humor.
@@athandog His was playfully talking about himself and the people he was with.
Yet he’s walking around holding a large camera pointed directly at himself and talking into it in 1989 🙄 you don’t know who liked him. They’re dressed outrageously for escape, that’s what this scene was about.
@@elm1230 Your point? People have their faces in front of the camera all the time now. Not everybody dressed outrageous for escape. It was for attention. There was no UA-cam or Instagram back then to get you noticed. You had to go out to be noticed. And yes, I do know many people liked Nelson. Just look at how many people positively comment about Nelson on these videos alone and most all of those people have never met him.
Belle B The point is context. The fact that it’s 1989, and people carrying a camera, let alone a large camcorder, was not ubiquitous. And he’s pointing it directly in his face and filming things, but he’s not asking for attention? I don’t know how old you are, but you don’t sound old enough to recall a time when that behavior was not common at all. Birds of a feather flock together. If they wanted attention, he clearly wanted to usurp it all.
Wow I love watching these videos. I find that time, back in the 80s to be so interesting, from The scenery to the people. Nelson captured moments of the community of club kids and LGBT people so beautifully. It’s such a raw look into a time in history that would be amazing to visit in a time machine.💖
Written like a truly worthless human.
Nelson, you were such a loving and gentle soul. I wish I could've known you .❤
Agreed. I wish I could have too. Great minds think alike! So cheers to you 😉💗
I truly miss NYC back in the day. I left in 1998, as by then NY, in particular my old neighborhood Lower East Side, had become wickid gentrified and too commercial. I feel very fortunate to have lived there through the 80s and 90s.
chEErs
93
Did you ever see Jeff Buckley out?
I love your videos , you captured time. My manager from Rich's North Dekalb rented with Rupaul around the very early 80's . I remember when I started seeing the Star Booty signs and just missed Rupaul perform , due to my age, I missed the start of the 80's and enjoyed the late 80's and 90's club scene but managed to go to the 80's teen clubs and Metroplex .
They were having fun. They didn't know they were toasting to a murderer.
Michael Szymanski the murder didn't happen until 7 years after this event...
self/defense- manslaughter to be precise
Christine Collins he mutilated the body fuck him
Christine Collins do you cut legs in self defence?
He was a sociopath. Even then. It doesn't matter if it was 7 years. He cared about himself only and he took revenge on people over stupid reasons. Have you ever crossed him in the 90's? Then shut the fuck up Toby Cat and your stupid fucking moniker.
Wow this definitely takes me back....I didnt run with this crowd which was a sort of literati with the likes of George Wayne and Michael Musto who both wrote regularly for the Village Voice, NYC's large weekly print newspaper for the bohemian set..The folks I ran with included a lot of overlap with club kids, the drag queens who hosted (Lady Bunny, Mona Foote, Lypsynca, Girlina, and Moi Renoir as well as the children who danced the night away...Mon night it was that place on the lower east side the name of which I could never remember, Tuesday's a small space in the meat packing district (do they even still call it that anymore?) alternated between "Meat" for the boys and "Clit Club" for the girls, Wed nights was about Alig's Disco 2000 at the limelight..a great people watching club even if the music sucked except when they were spinnng apocalyptic industrial techno was perfect for that crowd..I remember at each end of the main dance floor there were these trapez on each end suspended way up in the ceiling of what had once been a Church with a club kid/gogo dancer hanging from each and visible to everyone on the very immense dance floor as the swang back and forth in arcs so huge each seemed to cover a third of the dance floor. It was certainly hypnotizing..Thursday's "Boy Bar" and Fri was a bit of mess as can be the case in a City like NYC back then...pick your poison... Death by whatever random Cloned Chelsea gay muscle a party was happening at the Roxy (think resident Black Party/White Party presented by Jeffrey Sanker or a quick heart attack brought about by dancing way too long as DJ Tennessee spun a wicked mix of house at the Pubic Hair Club for Men... a sort of hybrid sex/dance club....but then when Frankie Knuckles became resident dj at the Sound Factory Bar that put the issue of what to dofri nights to rest...Sat..Sound Factory..the ultimate house rave with a very fashionable and beautiful crowd which still manage to give the place the ambience of a fabulous disco in toontown....it opened at midnight...everyone arrived 3am...And the party went until noon Sunday...folks wonder but if they didnt serve alcohol...wasn't it boring and how did it keep the momentum going?...well the served chilled fresh fruit and we were really young then...well the coke, acid, mescaline, and mollies didn't hurt ...this video certainly captures the rise of the lounge/dinner club..(Nell's, Save the Robots)...in every old person is a young person saying "What happened?"
I love these videos they are so interesting. So fun and fabulous!
Man he did such a great job. It's genius really.
This is a literal look back into time. This video was taken only 3 months before his death. RIP Nelson..
When you FINALLY get a cab only to have Electric Youth (Debbie Gibson) playing on the radio..priceless! 😂
Nelson was way too cool for NYC, hehe. He sure knew how to make the place come alive. I love his awesome videos and his friends. I recently found a Facebook with Trade's sister on it , and she had a picture of Trade now. He is still handsome. Keep on Vlogging Nelson and RIP..!
Malcom Forbes at a Michael Alig party is not what I had on my bingo card this morning 😂
I wonder if anyone will enhance these videos. I don’t think it would be a slap in the face to Nelson’s memory. As someone who lived in the club scene in the mid to late 90s (a little later than this, I know) it would be nice to see the colors pop in the clothes. I miss the fantastic outfits we would create and wear. Regardless, I love watching these videos. I wish Nelson was still in this world.
22:38 He is always the politest gentleman on Earth, even in the middle of mayhem.
Keith Haring, Malcolm Forbes, and Depeche Mode? Oh, Mary.
Where is Depeche Mode 😳
@@kelebeck5905 I think one of the people named is a member? Idk, I watched this 3 years ago, lol!
It's sad that Keith Haring and Nelson Sullivan died less than a year later.
I have a Keith Haring Swatch watch. Great artist. RIP. (Jan Griffiths).
@@kelebeck5905 nelson tries to get them on camera but their security guard yelled at him to turn the camera off. Happens at like 22:48
Debbie Gibson jamming on the radio. God I was obsessed. She influenced me so much as a vocalist. What a voice.
I have no idea what’s going on but I love time capsules. Especially from the year I was born.
I remember the Phil Donahue episode my sister graduated that year. Coming from the south and seeing this was so very AWESOME!!! Thanks!
Amisa Joi that Phil episode was a shame. so many judgmental people in that day
Nelson would be 73 today...let that sink in....
back when ppl still had originality and didnt just stare at their phone 24/7 looking for the next "influencer" theyre gonna try to copy.
You’re literally staring at your phone while watching all this lol. Just seems a bit ironic...
@@BMarie774 actually i was on my laptop at work on break. genius. and i never said i dont ever look at my phone
Amen
I remember hearing rumors about Malcolm Forbes and did you notice how Albert almost velcroed himself to him the minute he was introduced and never left that table? SMART
I'm in love with all of these videos
Even the Forbes guy passed away from a heart attack in 1990
Omg Keith Haring shortly before he passed away. This made my day!
He looked way more modern than everyone else. Someone could have been wearing what he was today. It was almost like he was a time traveler.
Are you talking about the guy in the purple hat at the table with Michael Musto. I dont think thats Keith Haring. Looks like him but its not. Look at the nose and ears.
Kieth is a Genius 🦄💜🥂
@@nychris2258 Yeah, dont look like Haring and members of Depeche? Just see some guy/"guys with their hair like Dave G. Seems to have been fun anyway. And Forbes, then said to been richest in the world!
That was Haring?
Nxt Musto at end?
Like a Prayer dance edit. My fav song at the time. Madonna at her shocking best! This is the party Nelson didn’t get an invite to and he was so mad, poor guy lol. He obviously decided to go.
1 second ago
Yes lol 😂 that’s one of my favorite videos he went off on Micheal behind this party notice Micheal and Nelson didn’t speak he just spoke to everybody else at the table and the mother he just met I caught that
I think Baroness Sherry von Koeber-Bernstein, whose penchant for wearing a different styled hat each night, is still alive! She must be close to 100. She was always much more pleasant than the other "old school" icons who were annoyed that you were annoyed at their annoyance (and arrogance).
You were right by the time you wrote this comment! :3 she passed away recently, at the age of 97
Alig's fashion was nothing but combining the hobo clown look with the clothes off an old woman. 😆
My guy was doing selfie sticks about 30 years before anyone else. and it's way better than what we have today
"Depeche Mode didn't want their picture taken, so their big fat security guard said "turn the camera off, turn the camera off!". I don't even know what they look like anyway!"
Lmao. Love that moment so much
I know right. As if a private security can order anyone to turn off a camera. I would have kept taping.
It’s the same thing with the large goons that “guard” celebrities. They are private citizens and have no power over anyone. As long as you don’t physically touch anybody they can’t do a damn thing. They are supposed to look intimidating and look scary. Oh and one more thing.....Michael Musto is a punk!!
Actually Depeche Mode was less yr fr dropping a masterpiece album.
1990, "Violator."
@@jasonpeters9716they were already rightfully huge… this was post mic for the masses and 101 for chrissake!
@@mildred714 I love DM 83-89.
Calm down, but 90s Depeche Mode was their best imo.
That "Ultra" album fr 96 I think?
Is vastly UNDERRATED.
I love how Nelson rarely says a cross word, but he will put Albert in his place with a brief snap as his camera is part of him, and Albert is 1 the few people who seem to accept it! Tho he actually seems to be such a diva that im surprised he had any friends period!
Id give anything to go back in time and be there with them
whoever's still shy/embarassed to vlog in 2021. NEEDS to watch this. & just imagine how huge that camera must have been.
The camera wasn't actually that big - it was a handheld. Not like those big ones that you'd have to strap to your shoulder to film.
It wasn't a handheld. There is footage of him with the camera. It was large old fashioned type before the smaller handhelds were a thing. This was filmed in the 80s. Not the 90s.
I love these videos! So amazing!
Albert and Trade they did have a few fun flings!! I could stare at Trade til end of time. 😍😆
The best drugs in New York at this party
Oh to be at the same party as Depeche Mode in 89
Nelson had lived one hell of a life.
He only like had 9 weeks left to live, crazy.
Insert Redletter Media Meme Here I’m thinking the same thing
wait who? angel?
@@elizabethbennet4791 Nelson Sullivan (the guy taking the video). He died on July 4th 1989 of a heart attack.
@@rebello3973 wow i just encountered this video its sad though
He looks really sick in a closeup midway through the vid
why are these videos so damn interesting!! watched almost all of them!!
'We're not wilding we're vougeing" LOL
Like A Prayer by Madonna had come out March 3, 1989 so that song was brand new when this was filmed!
Homie walking around like incredible Hulk when he transforms. LOL
Eddie Braddock went on to win multiple Grammys as Carol for Colorsigns.. A lot of talent in this room
Depeche Mode drops their Masterpiece album less yr after this
I remember a prominent "club kid" telling me the scene wasn't dead in 1999. Well, it was.
Pennywise 1985 bro your name is penny wise, not sure you've got anything of substance to say.
The club scene in NY was dead already in 96 I was there,Tunnel was over Twilo was still going and vinyl and palladium when Vasquez was spinning there.But yeah it's like Aligs troubles killed the scene and Everyone on drugs was suspect 😅
I would literally do anything just to time travel and be there. I would do anything if I could have grown up with these people. I was born in November 1988 so I was only a year old at this time. Well if Nelson was still alive, by the time of his death I was only 7 months old or so. So I was probably a few months old at this time.
I was three. So definitely not old enough to remember
I was born in 79, I absolutely miss the 80's and early 1990's. My childhood was the best and I wish we could go back in time. It felt like we had more love for others than we do today. These videos are pure nostalgia for me.
Lucky! I wasn’t born until 91 everything about the 80s I love despite not being born during that time
I was just about to be born… I still love this footage though. Rip Nelson 💗
Shirtless Guy is a Dream 💜💜💜
He's called trade, all the guys loved trade, he was with Ru Paul a lot in them days
I wasn't there this night but during these years I was going to Mars, The World, Save the Robots, The Tunnel, The Roxy, The Limelight, MK, Red Zone and Nell's. And that is definitely Keith Haring..
Brian Pettit jealous
What club was the largest out of these.
I always felt that the Limelight was to small for the amount of people coming there in the 90s.
Roxy had the biggest dance floor and a nice setup.
I went to The Tunnel, Limelight and then later Club USA from 1986 -1993
@@danlivni2097 Tunnel, Roxy, and Palladium were huge!
@@WILLIAMCHANEL Yes that is when NYC had all those Mega clubs in the 90s. The biggest club to me was Exit in NYC. Exit was called Mirage and Carbons in the mid to late 90s
These are amazing . So happy.
It's breaks my heart that 3 months later, Nelson passed away. You never know when your time is up. RIP u, sweet man.
Welp, now I gotta go watch Party Monster again.
No FUCKEN Cellphones, NOONE taking selfies. Everyone just enjoying themselves and living in the moment.
Nelson was literally taking selfie’s dude 😂
After this guy died, who was the genius who kept his recording. I’m intrigued
@@LuckyMe24-7 it was dick Richards!
He saved the recordings then one of his good friends uploaded them to UA-cam, that's what I've heard. His home is now a museum as well
This is art.
It’s crazy to think that now our phones can record at so much higher resolutions than those old camcorders. How cool would it be if we a were able to watch these videos in high definition!
I don't know. For me, this is how I remember photos and videos looking at that time. For me the look is part of what brings me back in time.
Depesh Mode didnt want their picture taken..well okay then.
Did Michael even notice Nelson was there? He walked around him and right next to him a couple times. lol
The guy was a major A-hole to say the tiniest about him.
Probably on drugs and too busy kissing asses ha.
Self absorbed
I see Alig got found dead today.
@@MrMeadfoot I literally just found out and was reading the article when I checked my phone and saw your comment. Yikes!
TAXI! so enjoy these uloads,..thnx again, lov & lights from Canada
Brenda and Brady were the life of the party
Mr 850 which one are they ? time stamps ?
Mr 850 Brandy wine is amazing.
I think his friend, Eddie, is alive and well. In Hollywood now.
Omg thank god for uber lol
SpacecowboiKilu it took them forever to find a cab, Nelson running with that Gigantic camera 🤣🤗
thank you nelsonnnn
Is that Warner Bros./Sire Records music exec. Seymour Stein at 19:30?
6:23
Nelson: “I’ll pull another f*cking scene on my goddamn camera”
Albert & Nelson: “No you won’t pull a scene with me” “Yes I will Albert!”
Lmao!! *the attitude !* 😂😂
I love Nelson for not caring about what people think about him & his camera!! ❤️
Loved this part! I laughed so hard cause he became MORE relatable at that moment 😆💜
The fact the back in the days they did not have cell phone this guy actually create it The vibe📲 🤳🏽 2021 quarantine brought me here🥴⚡️🍷
21:54 Michael musto saying "excuse meee" lmao
😂😂 as soon as I read this comment he screamed it 😂
Does Trade now know that these videos of him, as a young buck, are all live online?
Im sure hes aware 😉
@Sha_na_naz ! Frederick Rogers
So sad this was probably one of the last parties before he passed
damn, New York in 89 looks like Berlin today XD
Berlin was doing this in the 20s.
man i wish i was alive during this period and went to these clubs :( they look like they would of been so much fun
Im so very thankful for Nelson