Can Pliers Beat a Wrench? Knipex Pliers Wrench vs Cobra & Amazon Basics Clone

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    It's our 2nd look at hand tools here on Torque Test Channel, an d we're taking a look at pliers. Specifically ones suggested to us in our last testing of flarenut wrenches: Knipex Cobra and Knipex Pliers Wrenches to see how they compare to actual wrenches and Amazon Basics clones, because why not?
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  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel  2 роки тому +92

    FYI we tried two diff settings (wider, narrower) on the pliers for each test, like you see at 2:34 but top values scores are shown. You don't go beating a flarenut wrench with these in the wrong setting. These nuts are just really soft steel. The best performers have been added to our winners only Amazon page: www.amazon.com/shop/torquetestchannel What other types of tools do you want to see compared like this? Peak torque and strength is one thing, but for us it's usually the fastener that's getting buggered up before the tool.
    Torque who started TTC is working for Astro Tools in product development, which includes flarenut tools. Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!

    • @tsunami_stu7032
      @tsunami_stu7032 2 роки тому +2

      Can you try against the parrot pliers from mac tools

    • @denisrhodes54
      @denisrhodes54 2 роки тому

      Tsunami_stu should be the same as knipex

    • @roo1871
      @roo1871 2 роки тому

      @ Torque Test Channel should have tried the snappys that hold the coin with incredible force with only a rubber band around the handles

    • @kwmiked
      @kwmiked 2 роки тому +1

      Try a open end Flank Drive Plus snap on wrench and a Icon Open end with the teeth in wrench. I know I've taken off some pretty tight stuff with flank drive open end wrenchs, Even tighten larger bolts in to pump motor where a socket or box end wouldn't fit on cause of the clearance

    • @James-tf7kn
      @James-tf7kn 2 роки тому +1

      It would be interesting to see what the opening measures on the pliers wrench in positions that you use.

  • @cordcd7
    @cordcd7 2 роки тому +1051

    We all know that soul crushing feeling of the pliers letting go no matter how tight you squeeze the handles.

    • @snap-off5383
      @snap-off5383 2 роки тому +19

      ? I win the vise grips competition among all groups I'm in. They ask me to come snap them down because they can't get a grip. With mechanical advantage you can make the grip into pretty close to a weld.

    • @GashimahironChl
      @GashimahironChl 2 роки тому +8

      My favorite rusty nuts extractor has a flat on the ends of the handles so i can apply some external flat jawed help, probably a safety issue, certainly not the biggest one when i'm working, taught my tinkerer uncle how to do it, he bit his hands with the pliers and got some blood clots, but was still very happy.

    • @Icekhold99
      @Icekhold99 2 роки тому

      but still grip hard as a mf

    • @trevorclausen6945
      @trevorclausen6945 2 роки тому +26

      My knuckles know that feeling

    • @snap-off5383
      @snap-off5383 2 роки тому +4

      @@trevorclausen6945 Clod. Think things through beforehand.

  • @jameskyser9423
    @jameskyser9423 2 роки тому +363

    The knipex plier wrenches are my daily go to. I do plant maintenance style work and the 5" is my "pocket wrench" I carry at all times. Extremely useful plus they have a ratcheting effect once you get use to them.

    • @caseyt8447
      @caseyt8447 2 роки тому +32

      Same! I don't know how I did stuff before having these in my tool box... I end up selling a set to almost every maintenance guy at every plant I go to. I've got almost every size now in both. The mini cobra and the mini pliers are always in my back pocket though...

    • @jameskyser9423
      @jameskyser9423 2 роки тому +9

      @@caseyt8447 Yelp I have both set and they are unbeatable in my opinion. Those Germans know what they are doing lol

    • @home541_
      @home541_ 2 роки тому +8

      @@jameskyser9423 I just bought the 7” and 10” I think are the sizes. They’re amazing for alignments

    • @fredygump5578
      @fredygump5578 2 роки тому +7

      Do you have the 16" yet? No set is complete without it! (I service gas stations. I don't always use the 16", but sometimes it is very nice to have.)

    • @DDrew67
      @DDrew67 2 роки тому +3

      Same...that new slip joint pliers ifrom Knipex is really nice too...

  • @ionstorm66
    @ionstorm66 2 роки тому +165

    I have the opposite luck with Knipex pliers wrench. The only time they have slipped was when I stripped out the locking button. I have stood on the handles of my 7 inch pair, and im 275 pounds. They will literally put new flats on rounded nuts if you squeeze hard enough.
    I always clamp or zip tie the handles before using a cheater on them though.

    • @MATTLEism
      @MATTLEism 2 роки тому +27

      That's my go-to trick for ALL the beans. Either the tool is gonna fail or that thing is coming loose haha

    • @caseyt8447
      @caseyt8447 2 роки тому +29

      I use mine routinely to reshape/straighten sheet metal, Im right there with you. The only time any of my knipex tools slip is if I don't have them adjusted 100% right or if I had bad placement on the fastener for whatever reason.

    • @ChrisZBr0wn
      @ChrisZBr0wn 2 роки тому +4

      I straight up broke my pliers wrench BY HAND. Still absolutely my favorite set of pliers and I think I'll replace them with the HF version (I know, blasphemy) but warranty is nice

    • @matthewolson9704
      @matthewolson9704 2 роки тому +13

      I've had a pair of 7" Cobra pliers for probably 10 years now. I found them in a local u pull yard, and just wiped out the jaw in em in the past year. Warrantied through one of my tool guys and we're back in business. Best free pliers I've ever found 😂🍻

    • @krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110
      @krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110 2 роки тому +3

      100 percent my experience, including breaking the teeth out of a pair

  • @atmacm
    @atmacm 2 роки тому +244

    The pliers wrench work off the handles creating a 10X increase in jaw clamp force based off the cam design. Since you’re not squeezing the handles this is affecting the teeth not grabbing. Also, on the cobras on many occasions you didn’t apply the fastener correctly in the pliers, which causes them to slip. Like at 8:37. You had the flat on the flat of the jaw and not in the V notch.

    • @cdsdesigns8035
      @cdsdesigns8035 Рік тому +32

      It also looks like they didn’t check for metal shavings stuck in the teeth. Its happened numerous times working on cheap fasteners where the coating will scrape off and get stuck in the teeth causing them to slip more. Similar to when you use a blade to cut aluminum and they start to bond. I don’t think it will make an astronomical difference, but I do think they could have got better results.

    • @Justin-C
      @Justin-C Рік тому +43

      Yep. This Pliers Wrench testing was the handgun equivalent of "limp-wristing" - i.e., inducing a failure in the device by not following proper usage guidelines.

    • @geektarded
      @geektarded Рік тому +8

      I’ll wait until project farm does a real test.

    • @dimitrisd.9173
      @dimitrisd.9173 Рік тому +1

      Very well said.

    • @eoinfrankel6306
      @eoinfrankel6306 Рік тому +7

      He does squeeze the handles. He explicitly mentions it.

  • @AustinRoepke
    @AustinRoepke Рік тому +32

    The note on the Knipex flat edge wrench possibly needing compression on both handles is accurate-and possibly why it shows lower ratings here. The jaw system is a four bar linkage, which only locks at one point and isn’t effective at clamp loading with force on one handle alone. The four bar linkage design is to allow for the flats remain parallel and reduces the probability of rounding off a bolt head, compared to the cobra pliers.

  • @tjboylan20
    @tjboylan20 2 роки тому +69

    I would love a TTC hand ratchet test. There’s tons of other channels that have done it but they’re not as accurate as this channel. This channel and Project Farm are the most professional channels and I trust them the most. Love the videos guys keep it up!

    • @toyotatundra0455
      @toyotatundra0455 2 роки тому +4

      You are right on. TTC and Project Farm are the most honest, professional and unbiased tool review in UA-cam. TTC should do a test of the Amazon cordless ratchet.

  • @grantsoderstrom5713
    @grantsoderstrom5713 2 роки тому +76

    You can't put it on the dino, but it would be really fun to test which is the stronger fan base Knipex or Milwaukee...

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 2 роки тому +5

      Some of us swing both ways. I have my Knipex love but my cobras are Milwaukee.
      Never got fervent brand loyalty. I like having multiple colors in my bags its easier to find stuff.
      Except for cordless..
      Give me Makita or give me death.

    • @srooster4410
      @srooster4410 2 роки тому

      lol

    • @veridico84
      @veridico84 2 роки тому +1

      @@mattfleming86 I'm the same, I have both and honestly enjoy both. Whichever I see first in my tool draw is the one I use.

    • @bobalong131
      @bobalong131 2 роки тому +5

      It’d be the Milwaukee guys for sure. I’m in a packout group and if those guys even see the colour yellow in the picture of a rainbow they have a full blown rabies like break down.

    • @lightwalker222
      @lightwalker222 2 роки тому +5

      @@mattfleming86 I have a similar blind loyalty to Dewalt... well not really, but I got a few of them cheap and now I have so many batteries there's not much point in going to a different brand.

  • @Spazin0ut
    @Spazin0ut 2 роки тому +27

    As a semi trailer mechanic knipex pliers wrench are the best hands down. I can get things loose with them better than I can with a good set of adjustable wrenches.

  • @Jay_Ira
    @Jay_Ira 2 роки тому +224

    You guys are quickly becoming the industry testing standard for various tools we didn't know how to compare. I love this addition to the channel. Now we might as well test the other knock off pliers wrenches like Capri and Icon. I do like that Capri has a thick grip but my gripe is they're a knock off that is not that much cheaper than a Knipex. They have no history of well made pliers like Knipex so for a knock off brand you'd hope they would be significantly cheaper. It would be well worth finding out through your testing if they're worth it.

    • @m1stertim
      @m1stertim 2 роки тому +16

      have you never watched project farm?

    • @Jay_Ira
      @Jay_Ira 2 роки тому +2

      @@m1stertim nope never, I'm only a subscriber to PF for several years.

    • @robertfrate9738
      @robertfrate9738 2 роки тому +3

      Hi, project farm tod just did a video on pliers,

    • @summitlt
      @summitlt 2 роки тому +1

      Between this and PJ you don't need anything else

    • @Wk-is8eh
      @Wk-is8eh 2 роки тому +3

      @@m1stertim TTC, Project Farm, and Ave are my go to channels for tool reviews.

  • @billymanilli
    @billymanilli 2 роки тому +88

    I absolutely LOVE, and regularly depend on, knipex pliers. The way the design "bites" harder as you push (kinda like a pipe wrench) is just awesome. You could literally break head bolts loose with a nice new pair of the "cobra" style ones!

    • @daftpanda6533
      @daftpanda6533 Рік тому +11

      I use them at work, doing assembly. While I could tell just by looking at them they are miles better than the traditional Channel lock pliers, I found it interesting they are also better than average flare nut wrenches.

    • @who_cares848
      @who_cares848 Рік тому +7

      Im a plumber and thats exactly why i love the cobras. Theyre like a pipe wrench that fits in your pocket. Also they open up way wider than other pump pliers.

    • @cgg6450
      @cgg6450 Рік тому +1

      It’s a lot easier just using a regular ratchet and socket when working with bolts if you can’t get one loose then just use a breaker bar a breaker bar is far more affective than any plier whenever it comes to breaking loose a bolt.

    • @tonymontana6734
      @tonymontana6734 Рік тому

      Would you mind spanding $26 for a backup set

    • @tonymontana6734
      @tonymontana6734 Рік тому

      @@cgg6450 yeah right

  • @CrookedSkew
    @CrookedSkew 2 роки тому +13

    Love seeing this with hand tools. This channel and Project Farm gives me the warm and cuddlies! :D

  • @patricklikesmusic1
    @patricklikesmusic1 Рік тому +5

    Just saw this video but found knipex about a year ago. I've tried every brand you can get at home Depot, Lowes, and a few off tool trucks. I bought 1 pair of knipex and I won't go back to any of them. They grip amazingly, they are angled properly and damn that are tough. I use them to hammer on crap and they still don't have a scratch on them. Thanks for doing this video, help get more knipex into more tool boxes.

  • @DrFiero
    @DrFiero 2 роки тому +59

    As a licensed mechanic (now non practising!) I can tell you - those particular vice grips (not the 'usual' ones!) have SAVED many a rusty nut on an inverted flare brake line for me. The ability to clamp down tight, then be able to wiggle back and forth (try that with pliers) until they break free is incredible. I must have got one of the first sets when they came out, as I think I've been using them for near 20 years now.

    • @lohikarhu734
      @lohikarhu734 Рік тому +5

      you made me realize that the Cobra pliers in my "road" tool kit are 22 years old!

    • @DrFiero
      @DrFiero Рік тому +3

      @@lohikarhu734 - If they’re not broken, don’t fix ‘em!

  • @midnitetoker420
    @midnitetoker420 2 роки тому +5

    I appreciate the direction this channel is heading! Thanks for the great content!

  • @frankmuschetto3385
    @frankmuschetto3385 2 роки тому +9

    I've used Knipex Cobra 10" pliers for since they were released and could not be happier. They just plain work. I've tried several other brands but haven't found anything better. I've recently purchased the smaller version for tight spaces.

  • @kraftzion
    @kraftzion 2 роки тому +57

    The knipex pliers wrench is almost tailor made for HVAC. We deal with large brass flare nuts and caps all the time. They are also good for bending sheet metal. I have used them for 15 years now. My opininion is that the 10 inch is the sweet spot. I believe that something about the geometry lets you apply more pressure with the jaws when you squeeze the handles, even more than the 12 inch size.

    • @iceesrule75
      @iceesrule75 Рік тому

      Are they good for gas pipe?

    • @tamas9402
      @tamas9402 Рік тому +5

      @@iceesrule75 Bit late sorry but yeah they are, I've done gas lines with this style of pliers both for wrenching and backwrenching

  • @robertfrate9738
    @robertfrate9738 2 роки тому +4

    Hi, I’m very happy to see you expand with your testing, outstanding quality video ty so much,

  • @shallmaneser
    @shallmaneser 2 роки тому +3

    As far as I understand, for the Knipex plier-wrench, you should start with a perfect fit against the nut and then squeeze??? (not squeezing in order to make it a perfect fit)!!!

  • @LIKEcommentANDsubscribe
    @LIKEcommentANDsubscribe 2 роки тому +20

    I want Project Farm to compare the Amazon Cobra copies to the real deal. I'm sure he could come up with some way to wear the two brands down and show how much of a difference the soft jaw makes over time.

    • @zorinho20
      @zorinho20 2 роки тому +3

      Did you suggest that to Todd?

    • @jboy856
      @jboy856 Рік тому +3

      they don’t hold up nearly as well have used both pairs as im a plumber cobras last as long as 3 years before noticeable wear, the knock offs lasted about 6 months before the teeth stopped biting..

    • @LIKEcommentANDsubscribe
      @LIKEcommentANDsubscribe Рік тому +2

      @@jboy856 diesel mechanic here. That goes for their whole line. There isn't a single name brand out there that makes pliers and cutters as good as knipex. Their new auto adjusting cobras are unparalleled and they need to move the auto adjusting mechanism to the rest of their pliers. Ill buy them all.

  • @casemodder89
    @casemodder89 2 роки тому +48

    in some tests it seemed like the cheaterpipe pushed the lower grip open helping to slip/release on the nut.
    i use the 12" wrench pliers and the 10" parrot pliers for HVAC flaring stuff. works exeptional well !
    never had one of these slip on other usages like water pumps and stuff. (but i do keep some tention on the unloaded grip aswell)

    • @Aragorn450
      @Aragorn450 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, especially with the 5" Knipex pliers.

    • @tripplewhipper
      @tripplewhipper 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah its a shame he didn't learn to use the tool before doing the test. If a 255 lb guy can hang off of them then there's clearly and issue when they're slipping off constantly under his use

    • @cheatinggravity173
      @cheatinggravity173 Рік тому +1

      Yeah I saw that too..

  • @mikenormandy9250
    @mikenormandy9250 2 роки тому +4

    I am an electrical apprentice into my third year now, but I have been using Knipex brand pliers and hand tools way before this when doing plumbing, auto maint, sprinkler installation, etc...And I am ALWAYS recommending new tools to guys on the job, esp when they ask to borrow a pair of cobras or linesman, and are surprised how AMAZING they feel and work! - But, it is HILARIOUS how many brands have now adapted the 'cobra' locking water pump plier mechanism...Snap-on/Mac Have STRAIGHT UP borrowed the blueprint...Luckily, Knipex did NOT patent it, or maybe they did and they are making a killing! Even US brands like Channellock and Irwin are now doing the same!

  • @user-bj5xr5ju4n
    @user-bj5xr5ju4n 10 місяців тому +2

    how this channel only has 300k subscribers is beyond me. most informative, quantitative stuff we have.

  • @larrycroft470
    @larrycroft470 2 роки тому

    You guys rock. Your tests have helped me a great deal in my tool purchase decisions. I have not seen you on CP the Tool Addicts Friday night streams lately. We all miss you there.

  • @Frank-pv1hp
    @Frank-pv1hp 2 роки тому +25

    I'd like to see a comparison of open end wrenches. I sprang for the the Snap-On flank drive plus many years ago and I still love them. They have saved my bacon (and a couple of other guys at the shop) quite a few times over the years.

    • @krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110
      @krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110 2 роки тому +1

      I love my wrightgrip for the same reason as the flank drive plus, sk X frames as well.
      I use run of the mill SK superchrome most of the time, if I feel it may slip I grab the wrightgrips. The wright wrenches have the biting feature, but when it's not needed they fit a little tight and aren't as smooth because of it.

    • @AtomicReverend
      @AtomicReverend 2 роки тому +1

      @@krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110 i was going to mention wright wrenches they work amazingly for a mid level price tool, my only complaint is they almost always mess up the finish, I would never use them on something like a Harley-Davidson for example.

    • @krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110
      @krogunlimitedfahrenkrog6110 2 роки тому +1

      @@AtomicReverend yes, but so do Flank drive plus, and other designs with anti slip like that.
      The cheap gearwrench sets that have it don't as bad, but they are far lower quality and don't work nearly as well as thw snap off or wright versions. The SK X frames work fantastic as well, but they have more limited use.
      I like whatever tool works best, if it's $5 ot $500 regardless of brand lol. Not a lot of snap off that justifies the price, but their flare nut wrenches are the best of the 10 or more brands I have owned, and any brand I have used that I remember. There are other specialty ones that are as strong or stronger, but they aren't for the same applications, and they limit access which I find to be 1/2 the battle on most line/flare fittings I mess with.

  • @Bearcats737
    @Bearcats737 2 роки тому +12

    i can honestly say the knipex are some of the best hand tools ive ever used. Now i carry a 7 1/4pliers wrench and the 7 1/4 cobra as a side carry every day

    • @femto505
      @femto505 Рік тому +1

      I never understand why people like pliers for removing fasterners. I don't run into issues with with open end wrenches.

    • @Bearcats737
      @Bearcats737 Рік тому

      @@femto505 Its not like a normal piers, its more like an adjustable wrench that doesn't slip. for me its handy to always have the right size wrench on me because I'm not always right next to my tools. it absolutely doesn't replace a normal wrench, but a good 95% of the time its all you need

    • @DaltonJ995
      @DaltonJ995 Рік тому

      @@femto505 depends if you have a tool box next to you or are making a field repair open end is the way to go if you have them with you but if your going somewhere that you don't want to carry a whole wrench set adjustable pliers are the way to go because we all know adjustable cresent wrenches suck donkey dong.

    • @MindBlowerWTF
      @MindBlowerWTF 2 місяці тому +1

      @@femto505 I use them for the most random things, but rarely just removing most regular bolts or nuts. Someone moved the wrench that should lay on top of mig welder to remove the bottle? Grab the pliers. Knob of a valve fell off in the shitter? Grab the pliers. Boening part fell off and is hot? Grab the pliers.

  • @ES-yc1tp
    @ES-yc1tp 2 роки тому

    126K SUBS?? I remember watching your videos in the thousands! Congrats! This channel is amazing!

  • @TheNachris720
    @TheNachris720 2 роки тому

    very nice to see you test these!

  • @jerryjackson7787
    @jerryjackson7787 2 роки тому +5

    I’m glad you confirmed that the pliers wrench needs to have both handles squeezed together in order to avoid slipping. I’ve found the same thing when using the pliers wrenches… which is why I still use old-fashioned adjustable wrenches for plumbing if I’m in a tight spot and can’t squeeze both handles on the pliers wrench.

  • @crazykenkid
    @crazykenkid 2 роки тому +3

    very cool! I use the cobra all day long and I agree with you on the Pliers I run into slippage often! For those raptors if you cut off 2" of the handle you will magically have a 7" ":) well done keep up the great tool reviews!

  • @roo1871
    @roo1871 2 роки тому

    125,000 subscribers!!! Amazing!! I think I subbed at 10,000ish subs. So excited to be along since the beginning of your amazing journey!!!!!!! Congrats!!!

  • @josephalexander3884
    @josephalexander3884 2 роки тому

    Absolutely. I always enjoy your videos. Thank you.

  • @Gazoogleheimer1
    @Gazoogleheimer1 2 роки тому +27

    As an avid user of each and every size of pliers wrench for work and play, I don't think they were adjusted quite right. The cheater was also choking up on the one handle and pushing the two handles apart from each other. I can generally extract ludicrous beans from mine, especially on challenging or rusty fasteners.

    • @EvilOtto580
      @EvilOtto580 2 роки тому +3

      Agree, they are loose/barely gripping.

    • @DarylOster
      @DarylOster Рік тому +3

      I constantly carry a knipex pliers wrench in my pocket, and to develop max torque they MUST BE SQUEEZED HARD. IMO the test is not valid.

  • @Spazin0ut
    @Spazin0ut 2 роки тому +3

    Omg yes the video I needed and didn’t even know it!

  • @markdstump
    @markdstump 2 роки тому +1

    Oh my God this is my dream video topic.
    This is what I’ve been wondering and what I was tempted to do myself!
    I expected the Knipex to do better, and it took me a full 24 hrs to accept the results,
    but data trumps expectation.

  • @chipsterb4946
    @chipsterb4946 2 роки тому

    I had never heard of Knipex pliers but those look like a tool my grandfather would’ve loved.

  • @theomnipresent1
    @theomnipresent1 2 роки тому +7

    I'd like to see channellock's parrot nosed 'nut buster' model 410 pliers compared.

    • @user-rk2hy5ty9v
      @user-rk2hy5ty9v Місяць тому

      I started as a diesel mechanic a little over 30 years ago and the 410 and 414 pliers were the predecessor to all these pliers we have now. They were life savers for me!

  • @ItsAWhiteMan
    @ItsAWhiteMan 2 роки тому +3

    Another good type of pliers wrench is the Snap On PWZ0, PWZ1, or PWZ2. These are badass and great for alignments such as inner tie rods or jam nuts here in the rust belt.

    • @lexel90
      @lexel90 2 роки тому

      but aren´t these not just pipe wrenches with the swedish pattern? so comparable to Knipex 83 10 015 or Gedore "Eck-Schwede" and it´s most likely a relabeled BAHCO Ergo pipe wrench
      but the labeling makes sense, since BAHCO belongs to Snap-On, is swedish and came up with the pipe wrench and the adjustable wrench in 1890 or so o.0

  • @IGrocker
    @IGrocker 2 роки тому +2

    I have the 10” Knipex Cobra pliers, although they’re Mac branded. Easily my favorite set of pliers and I use them daily!

  • @rafbuelens4908
    @rafbuelens4908 Рік тому

    I carry a the knipex mini pliers 86 03 125 in my pocket all the time at work. It's tiny but it can reliably grip up to 23mm (7/8 inch). Absolutely love this tiny tool.

  • @colbycarnes5786
    @colbycarnes5786 2 роки тому +3

    I’d like to see an adjustable wrench in the mix too

  • @Foxholeatheist
    @Foxholeatheist 2 роки тому +10

    It would be very neat to see the Wera Joker 6004 self-setting spanners in this kind of comparison.

  • @jimbrown9885
    @jimbrown9885 Рік тому

    Love ones like this that throw intuition out the window.

  • @marygrace5231
    @marygrace5231 Рік тому

    Thanks for doing this comparison. I've wanted someone to do this for awhile now.

  • @MrDdaland
    @MrDdaland Рік тому +3

    One "trick" I've used to maintain tension on both handles in a situation where I can't grip both is to place a number a appropriate sized rubber bands- keeps a constant force and easy to adjust up or down just by adding/removing

  • @orijimi
    @orijimi 2 роки тому +4

    I was hoping for a comparison between pliers wrenches and adjustable wrenches. And squeezing pliers wrenches during use has always been a necessity to use them correctly. Gedore's design makes that especially obvious.

  • @RMosher11
    @RMosher11 2 роки тому

    Love this test. Would love to see more hand tool testing in the future.

  • @JohnnyMarbles27
    @JohnnyMarbles27 Рік тому

    Nice video! I love Knipex, i use those pliers mostly for bolts in tight spaces. The grip on bolts is amazing. Recently bought the Knipex Cobra XS, the mini version of the cobra. Thanks for sharing this video!

  • @MattLitkeRacing
    @MattLitkeRacing 2 роки тому +5

    Look up round coupling nuts. That might be a good way to test grip of pliers on round shapes. Without having to redesign your tester

  • @Joethetoolguy
    @Joethetoolguy 2 роки тому +4

    Can I get some tests for my Wera Joker guys?

  • @georgestweeter
    @georgestweeter 2 роки тому +2

    I was looking for some nice channel lock type pliers, and my uncle had the Knipex Cobra i loved it. I bought one when it was on sale, im pretty sure its the 10" version. They're the pliers i use for everything, unless i need a needle nose pliers, I'm using my knipex cobra. They will bite in to stuff that locking pliers slip on. 100% worth the ~$30 i spent on then.

  • @johncarrig2014
    @johncarrig2014 5 місяців тому +2

    I have several sizes of Knipex pliers wrench tools and have found that maximum gripping force is only achieved by correctly adjusting the jaw opening. The sliding jaw should be adjusted so that the handles are close together when the jaws are gripping the workpiece. If the handles are too far apart, the cam part of the sliding jaw is much more easily deflected away from the workpiece. Much more clamping force is developed with less effort at the handles when adjusted properly.

  • @suicidalkids9916
    @suicidalkids9916 2 роки тому +3

    That makes me wonder how a normal crescent wrench would perform.

    • @fredygump5578
      @fredygump5578 2 роки тому +4

      I only use a crescent wrench when I need something I can hit with a hammer!

    • @DUKE_of_RAMBLE
      @DUKE_of_RAMBLE 2 роки тому

      Me too, but not because I think they'd do well, just because the scientist in me desires completeness! lmao

    • @DUKE_of_RAMBLE
      @DUKE_of_RAMBLE 2 роки тому

      @@fredygump5578 Uncle Bumblefuck (aka AvE) has shown us his Mining Wrench many many times in his channel. Or , as he has so aptly referred to it as: _"The Thumb-Detecting Nut-Fucker"_ 🤣😊
      Up until then I'd never seen or heard of such a mongrel... But it's just a crescent wrench with a built in hammer head on the outside 'fixed' jaw. I imagine it sure beats trying to whack something accurately, compared to the typical curved jaw! (pun intended).
      (As far as nicknames go, my buddy had always referred to a crescent type wrench, as the "Adjustable Metric", beings as anyone and everyone has it when just starting out, and usually end up using it on Metric stuff since in N.Amer we tend to spend money on the SAE tools first... lol)

  • @boosted2.4_sky
    @boosted2.4_sky 2 роки тому +5

    If they're not being squeezed the way a person would squeeze them ( and use them in service)..then the data is flawed... sorry
    That one handle is a marketing Ploy it's not the way that they're expected to be used... not really

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  2 роки тому +4

      We did each both ways and used the highest value. Which we show.

    • @svn5994
      @svn5994 2 роки тому

      It's far from a marketing ploy. Sorry you incorrectly use the tool.

  • @Keifsanderson
    @Keifsanderson 2 роки тому

    I love my Knipex pliers wrenches for plumbing on finished surfaces like shower heads and chrome drains/traps. No marring and great bite.

  • @BLUE-wk8wh
    @BLUE-wk8wh 10 місяців тому

    Just bought the pliers wrench for bicycles work I’m happy to see they are nearly the same at a typical wrench 🥳

  • @DMSparky
    @DMSparky 2 роки тому +7

    I know with the Cobras only the teeth have the highest level of harness, Knipex claims 61HRC. I’m a professional tradesman and usually not super biased between brands of tools, other than I think you usually get what you pay for. The $5 dollar pair of side cutters rarely out performs the $50 pair. I don’t really care one brand or another as long as the tool lasts along time and is comfortable to use, but I will say I think the only tool I have an extremely strong bias towards is the Knipex Cobras, you have an apples to oranges comparison here, test them against their real competitors standard channellock pliers not just in terms of maximum strength but also comfort, grip strength and tooth longevity. I also think just pressing on the top handle is sort of a gimmick they are way stronger when pressure is applied to both handles no matter how they advertise. Not a Knipex fanboy I just think the Cobras are an excellent design for a water pump plier.

    • @marcowens3522
      @marcowens3522 2 роки тому +4

      What $5 pair of cutters out perform a $50 set? I'm calling bs on that period I use nothing but knipex and snap on cutters ain't no $5 nothing beating them period!

    • @Rudy97
      @Rudy97 2 роки тому +3

      Knipex tools cost so much because they wear very slow. Use them daily for years and can't tell the difference between old and new.

    • @svn5994
      @svn5994 2 роки тому +3

      There is no such thing as a $5 side cutter outperforming a $50 cutter.

    • @DMSparky
      @DMSparky 2 роки тому

      @@svn5994 whoops typo on my part! You’re right!

    • @DMSparky
      @DMSparky 2 роки тому

      @@marcowens3522 Agree completely, sorry it was a typo!

  • @bakdaon
    @bakdaon 2 роки тому

    I really enjoy your videos. High quality content. I love that you are reviewing more fasteners tools beside impact wrenches. I would LOVE to see a video on 6pt vs 12pt for the 30% rounded fasteners. For all the people living where there is rust that rounds off many fasteners, the 6pt vs 12pt is not an insignificant choice. Having a better idea of how much transferable torque is lost by going 12pt would be helpful. Please tell me *coming soon* !

  • @DarkDraconX1
    @DarkDraconX1 2 роки тому +1

    7:52 the parakeet flew away.
    Those Amazon basic pliers reminds me of Craftsman rebranded knipex pliers.

  • @sas281gt
    @sas281gt 2 роки тому

    Fantastic as usual. Thank you!

  • @Frost640
    @Frost640 2 роки тому +2

    The Raptor pliers work well for tie-rod adjustments, I haven't used them for flare nuts however.

  • @luthfiadhityanto38
    @luthfiadhityanto38 Рік тому

    The comparison video that i need 👏👏👏

  • @John_Ridley
    @John_Ridley 2 роки тому +1

    I got a set of those Knipex knockoff water pump pliers from the cheap tools bin at Tractor Supply a few years ago for very very cheap and they have been pretty good so far, though I haven't abused them much.

  • @tdtrecordsmusic
    @tdtrecordsmusic Рік тому +1

    Cool !
    Adjustable Spanners :) They seem like the logical next item on the menu.
    cool channel idea btw

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 2 роки тому

    Great testing. I've got the real deal of Knipex Cobra pliers, but Irwin pliers wrench because they were on sale at Menards. Still haven't quite figured out their niche but I have used them for several (probably not recommended) uses. Of course the Cobra pliers are treasured.

  • @Lucas12v
    @Lucas12v 2 роки тому

    I love my pliers wrenches. Might be interesting to see small pipe wrenches tested since they're designed to work on literally round pipe.

  • @DTW313
    @DTW313 5 місяців тому

    I've got Cobra's and I went up from a set of old Channel locks, these things are just well made and I love them.

  • @pakiw2
    @pakiw2 Рік тому +1

    As plumber, I use rothenberger 1" pipe wrench and knipex cobra 300, makes perfect pair for wrenching steel and cast iron. Round things is their case. They wear out in a year from day to day use. But it is a case when you're okay to destroy look of things. Otherwise knipex flat jaws. It's very rare when I use standard wrenches, occasionally, when something is gona be visible afterwards and cannot be chewed by teeth of cobra or pipe wrench. Usually all pipe fittings are weird size, somewhere in between sizes 22.5 mm or 23mm, or 24 as example. Often casting of fittings is very rough and nothing fits except pipe wrenches.

  • @FlorinArjocu
    @FlorinArjocu 4 місяці тому

    I have the tiny versions (you can hide them in your palm) of both Knipex you tested here and those are so nice to have around!

  • @mihkelsepp72
    @mihkelsepp72 2 роки тому +1

    I've been using the nut pliers and cobra pliers for years at work. They are one of the most used tools in my job. They really do work well on the field and on multiple types of items. (keeping in mind the turning direction)
    The cobras has to have clean and decently fresh teeth to work good (sharpening helps as well).
    As for nut pliers, it is more important to get perfect adjustment of the handles than it is for the cobras. I adjust them at largest settings while still feeling the clamping force on a nut/bolt, that's when I get the best leverage of the clamping force while doing less work for it and getting more usable torque out of it.

  • @georgecolbert3247
    @georgecolbert3247 Рік тому +1

    A set of Channellock 410 pliers would also work. They are made to remove studs. They also don't have the button sticking out the side. One of my favorites is the Knipex small spring clamp pliers that work quite good for removing spring clamps. Remember that usually a tube nut gets corrosion welded to the tubing, so many times a small hacksaw is the best tool. Just admit that you will need to make a new line.

  • @shorttermhobbyist
    @shorttermhobbyist 2 роки тому

    I edc the mini knipex pliers wrench running service calls. They have saved me at least 1000 trips back to the van...and almost made my Leatherman obsolete. I'm not a mechanic breaking rusted bolts, but they fit every fastener that I come across at my job. Worth $40 for me.

  • @mbks77
    @mbks77 Рік тому

    I have a pair I use daily...love them...handy for so many things

  • @martinschuessler1936
    @martinschuessler1936 2 роки тому +2

    Great test - thanks for doing that! I was a little surprised about the pliers wrenches losing grip but it kind of makes sense when you're approaching the limit of what the design can handle. While they are self-locking, they are still PLIERS and I guess at some point in time the self-locking feature hits a limit, and then you'd have to manually keep them squeezed together - and since you're using a cheater bar, there's no way a human hand can apply enough force to keep them closed. The reason I'm glad I have the Cobras over a generic version is that the steel used by Knipex is exceptional. When you look at tests that also check for jaw damage, they usually come away looking new - something I doubt you'd see with the Amazon basics. The good news - and something you glossed over a little bit - is that the pliers wrenches removed the flare nuts. A single $50 wrench will do the job of a bunch of dedicated wrenches, so that's a win-win in my opinion.

    • @johnrhodes3350
      @johnrhodes3350 10 місяців тому

      The knipex pliers wrench work pretty well when squeezed. Because they clamp parallel with the faces, when turning, the corners of the the hex tend to try and lever the jaws open again. But the advantage provided by the little Cam mechanism is usually enough with a good squeeze.
      They are certainly good enough to recommend giving they a try to see how you get on with them.
      I like how it's often possible to get a fast open and close ratcheting action going on.
      If I lost them I would definitely replace them fairly quickly.

  • @AG-ld2qt
    @AG-ld2qt Рік тому +1

    These are very helpful videos, quite beneficial when tool shopping. Would like to see flare nut wrenches grip compared to flare nut sockets grip. 👍

  • @ko9563
    @ko9563 2 роки тому +1

    I got the Icon pliers, they are awesome. Another good one to try is Menard's Masterforce version of the Cobra pliers.

  • @DracoOmnia
    @DracoOmnia Рік тому

    I'd love to see the icon compared. Just picked up one of their needle nose pliers and I'm impressed, they are quite good for screw extraction

  • @nickstoolsmedia3732
    @nickstoolsmedia3732 2 роки тому

    Just got my Amazon pliers in and just made a short video. These things are awesome in person

  • @waiting4aliens
    @waiting4aliens 2 роки тому

    Amazon for your junk yard fetching run. Good video. Bought the Cobras on your recommendation and paid for themselves by the second job.

  • @omnipotent87
    @omnipotent87 2 роки тому

    My favorite plier is the knipex 83-30-005 s-type pipe wrench fallowed by channel lock 307 nut buster. I use the channel locks all the time for stubborn line nuts.

  • @trenthollifield6969
    @trenthollifield6969 2 роки тому

    Loving the channel I'm a plumber have been for over 15 years my go to channel lock type of pliers is 100% vice grip blue and yellow v Grove. man they make my life gravy doing black iorn gas piping they bite like a pit bull

  • @scottmarshall6766
    @scottmarshall6766 2 роки тому

    My goto is good old Irwin Vise-Grips, the curved jaw variety for small tube nuts (1/4-5/16) I use the small curved jaw variety most times, and jump to the larger curved jaw ones (10"). They hold best, and lock, allowing you to apply heat or penetrating oil while turning. The locking is also easier on the hands, especially with the rubber covered 10" model.
    Thanks for the test!

  • @BHALT0S
    @BHALT0S 2 роки тому

    I have had knipex cobra's for more than 20years, still have them, still just as good when new.

  • @krabkakes9535
    @krabkakes9535 Рік тому +1

    Snap on makes a big ass pipe wrench type tool. As a diesel mechanic, I always used the knipex cobras until I got the big ass snap on pipe wrenches. I'd love to see you test those.
    The pipe wrench from snap on is a similar design where you only push on the top handle.

  • @dubi127
    @dubi127 2 роки тому +2

    Still would like to see how raptors stack up, even if it is a longer tool

  • @DESX312
    @DESX312 2 роки тому +2

    I started building up my Knipex set over the pandemic after stumbling upon them. Fantastic tools.
    Check out their mini bolt cutters if you guys get a chance. Those are great as well. Super versatile.

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 Рік тому +1

    Very nice test comparing apples to apples. Job well done fella.

  • @joeyg.276
    @joeyg.276 2 роки тому

    big fan of the channel i would like to see some testing on 12v impact drivers if possible; thank you for what you do

  • @AndyDuboskySaysFuckThePolice

    Thank you for what I had assumed was a inaccurate pronunciation of kuh knee pex pliers. I was about to post a comment on my incorrect belief of how it was pronounced. After Googling something to be sure I had my facts straight. Then of course getting conflicting answers from Google. That sent me down a rabbit hole, and now I'm back to finish this video with "no comment".Your video's are full of information more than most, possibly you are aware. Great content. I am now subscribed and commenting due to your great thoroughness, time spent, money invested, and willingness to share your knowledge. Also the fact you are presenting this to us not arrogantly, but very open minded. Some people find it hard to admit they were wrong, I am one of those. This video may have helped me to avoid doing that in the future. Sincerely thank you shareing.
    P.S. It's actually pronounced kuh knee pex

  • @matthewolson9704
    @matthewolson9704 2 роки тому

    I saw the thumbnail and the title and clicked, thinking this was a Project Farm video. I was surprised but well done as always 🍻

  • @monkfry
    @monkfry 2 роки тому +1

    Love the cobras. My go to for years.

  • @willcox2073
    @willcox2073 Рік тому

    I've been using cobras the whole time I've been in my trade and they are by far my favorite tool

  • @tripplewhipper
    @tripplewhipper 2 роки тому

    I feel like I agree with some of the other folks in the comments regarding the pipe influencing the handles to open, I've never had they slip as long as they are set properly and I have little hung off of them without squeezing the handles together as it self tightens

  • @bryanleverett2830
    @bryanleverett2830 Рік тому

    You guys super totally gotta do a video comparing the Wera Joker’s in this test !!

  • @LilFoxAK
    @LilFoxAK 2 роки тому

    nice review. i see harbor freight truly stepping up trying to heads up to the big guys. honestly when it comes to anything with flare nuts, snap on crows foot has never let me down. ever.

  • @The52brandon
    @The52brandon 2 роки тому

    I got the ICON brand pliers wrench and I LOVE it. Don't get me wrong, there is only certain times that they're really useful. But they are SUPER useful in those times...

  • @sknight0391
    @sknight0391 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, those Amazon Basics are identical to the old Craftsman version they used to sell at Sears, until they all went out of business. Identical hand grips & all. I still have my set that I bought at Sears a decade ago. Still work great. I really like the handle material on them. That's a great deal on Amazon.

  • @Sainte305
    @Sainte305 Рік тому +1

    Interesting test. I have a couple different Knipex pliers, I do like the Cobras, but man I have had bad luck with the teeth shearing off. I'd like to see more of the wrench tests. Also, I'd only ever use a flare nut wrench on flare nuts, but I have to see that other video now, curious to see which brands failed to deliver on the Torque-y torque.

  • @mbnr26
    @mbnr26 2 роки тому +2

    I'd like to see ttc and project farms to collaborate with there testings in some form. Both are super good at testing stuff

  • @joesmith7377
    @joesmith7377 2 роки тому +1

    Can you test 6 and 12 point box end wrenches? Also, I would like to see Milwaukee wrenches in your tests. Thank you!