The collection container on the Gen.3 Tri-Conical is perhaps the main reason I got fed up with the system and bought an all-rounder instead. No matter how well I greased the threads it was near impossible to remove the tri-clamp lid. Add to that the hassle of extra cleaning and I finally gave up. Now, I haven't sold it yet and the new container kinda makes me question, if I should give it another chance. But I honestly don't know if it's worth it. There are other ways to collect yeast and if I wanted to separate the trub, I could just do a closed transfer to a secondary vessel. Add to that the extra cost of a new butterfly valve. I don't know. Homebrewing should be simple.
I will buy this one day. Excuse me for being philosophical for one moment: these Kegland products are great, and the result of trying to gain market share. My point is that competition drives innovation, and benefits us all massively. Beware though, because monopolies are the opposite of this phenomenon and in our modern world we have a lot of them. I love Kegland and I think we need more people like Kee.
Great video as always and I really like the look of this tri clamp version. I think its time to upgrade my all rounder. Hopefully I can get one of these soon.
I’ve just purchased one of those from the BKT . I’m yet to use it as it doesn’t fit in either of my fermentation fridges ( my bad not anyone else’s) it looks like a fantastic bit of kit and my first time investing into any sort of pressure fermenting. I’m very much looking forward to using it and experiencing and experimenting with it . Great advice as always on the video cheers 👍🍻
In fact - exactely my thought too. I recently bought the Gen 3 and clicked this video only to clarify just that. I think I actually rather will follow your suggestion here Mike (Bitter Reality Brewing).
This might be a little off topic but does anyone / has anyone tried to rack the beer into a keg through the bottom valves of the fermzilla? I always use the dippingtube+float, add some CO2 pressure and rack it that way. This causes some obvious losses both in product and CO2. Racking through the bottom might yield more product but are there any drawbacks? Obviously the yeast / hops trub needs would have to be dumped first =)
Great video as always. Question about pressure transfer- when fermentation is near complete and the beer has not been pressurized yet, do I loose hop aroma by transferring to keg (where I will add pressure to dry hop)? I was planning to leave PRV value open while transferring. Thanks!
Kegland keeps making these better & better! Amazing! The old collection jar is 1000ml...is this one really only 600ml? If so, that's the only drawback I see. Having the full liter to pull out every last bit of trub is important in my process
this particular product release frustrates me a little, the collection jar on my not exactly ancient 2" tri-clamp fermzilla leaks, and the 3" version seems to have come out very shortly after the 2" one. I'm stuck now deciding whether i should upgrade the valve and the jar together(expensive and I'll be stuck with a leaky 2" jar and a 2" valve I can't do very much with), wade through online listings to find a 2" compatible jar (which are now impossible to find because of the 3" jar), or just live without it. very much a first-world problem, but kegland could've planned this a little better.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Not always are these things that easy. Returning the faulty products is specially difficult if there's no nearby local shop or service provider available.
Thanks for sharing David. I don't own one of these Fermzillas but I'm trying to visualize how they work - say I already have removed my yeast cake and then I wish to dry hop using this container, once I open the butterfly valve the hops would float up and the container would be filled with 600ml of beer. If I want to dry hop again, I would repeat the process and ultimately have 1.2L less in the fermenter and should consider in my recipe. Is this correct?
So close to a great upgrade. A 2" connection would be better than 3". I am not a fan of the collection chamber as the screw on lid is very frustrating. And having to dump 1L is a large amount for a 5 gallon batch.
Completely agree. I bought a 2 inch steel elbow plus end cap that clamps onto the fermenter instead of the screw in collection vessel. Cost about 38 gbp. No leaks and problem solved without the 'upgrade'.
Thanks for letting us on the channel. Once again we really appreciate being able to show of a new toy!
Any plan to offer this as standard kit? I'm in the market for a fermzilla but really confused if I should wait or not
@KegLand My pleasure, it is great to have such great stuff to share with people :)
@@gianlucacembrani9923 I believe so yes
The collection container on the Gen.3 Tri-Conical is perhaps the main reason I got fed up with the system and bought an all-rounder instead. No matter how well I greased the threads it was near impossible to remove the tri-clamp lid. Add to that the hassle of extra cleaning and I finally gave up.
Now, I haven't sold it yet and the new container kinda makes me question, if I should give it another chance. But I honestly don't know if it's worth it. There are other ways to collect yeast and if I wanted to separate the trub, I could just do a closed transfer to a secondary vessel. Add to that the extra cost of a new butterfly valve.
I don't know. Homebrewing should be simple.
There are always choices 🍻 This new one certainly solves the issue you mention.
I will buy this one day. Excuse me for being philosophical for one moment: these Kegland products are great, and the result of trying to gain market share. My point is that competition drives innovation, and benefits us all massively. Beware though, because monopolies are the opposite of this phenomenon and in our modern world we have a lot of them. I love Kegland and I think we need more people like Kee.
I totally agree! Very good points for sure 🍻🍻🍻
Great video as always and I really like the look of this tri clamp version. I think its time to upgrade my all rounder. Hopefully I can get one of these soon.
Yes, it is certainly a lot easier to use. Cheers 🍻🍻
I’ve just purchased one of those from the BKT . I’m yet to use it as it doesn’t fit in either of my fermentation fridges ( my bad not anyone else’s) it looks like a fantastic bit of kit and my first time investing into any sort of pressure fermenting. I’m very much looking forward to using it and experiencing and experimenting with it . Great advice as always on the video cheers 👍🍻
Cheers, yes I totally agree. Enjoy 🍻🍻
David, Than you for sharing, but shouldn't the PRV be installed on the top opening instead of the bottom? Thinking O2 is lighter than CO2. Thank you.
With something this size the difference is really nothing.
In fact - exactely my thought too. I recently bought the Gen 3 and clicked this video only to clarify just that. I think I actually rather will follow your suggestion here Mike (Bitter Reality Brewing).
This might be a little off topic but does anyone / has anyone tried to rack the beer into a keg through the bottom valves of the fermzilla? I always use the dippingtube+float, add some CO2 pressure and rack it that way. This causes some obvious losses both in product and CO2. Racking through the bottom might yield more product but are there any drawbacks? Obviously the yeast / hops trub needs would have to be dumped first =)
I cannot think of any issue as long as the trub is dumped first. 🍻🍻🍻
Thanks for the update :)
Cheers Paul. 🍻🍻
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Mangrove Jack's cider kit in the fermenter today to get ready for the summer. One of the only non David Heath brews :)
Cider is nice for the summer , enjoy 🍻🍻
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Possibly another interesting topic for your channel; some summertime cider :)
Great video as always. Question about pressure transfer- when fermentation is near complete and the beer has not been pressurized yet, do I loose hop aroma by transferring to keg (where I will add pressure to dry hop)? I was planning to leave PRV value open while transferring. Thanks!
Thank you Frank 🍻🍻
Not at all if you do a closed pressure transfer.
I have one and I love it.
Great to hear 🍻🍻🍻
Kegland keeps making these better & better! Amazing!
The old collection jar is 1000ml...is this one really only 600ml? If so, that's the only drawback I see. Having the full liter to pull out every last bit of trub is important in my process
They sure do. KL did a lot of tests and there is no concern with trub due to the lower size.
this particular product release frustrates me a little, the collection jar on my not exactly ancient 2" tri-clamp fermzilla leaks, and the 3" version seems to have come out very shortly after the 2" one. I'm stuck now deciding whether i should upgrade the valve and the jar together(expensive and I'll be stuck with a leaky 2" jar and a 2" valve I can't do very much with), wade through online listings to find a 2" compatible jar (which are now impossible to find because of the 3" jar), or just live without it. very much a first-world problem, but kegland could've planned this a little better.
just wait a lil bit more. they'll release something like a 4" version soon as well. and then 6" version in about 2 months or so..
Apparently not.
Did it leak when it was brand new? Or it developed a leak over time?
If something fails then go back to where you bought it and ask for a replacement. You warranty covers you.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew Not always are these things that easy. Returning the faulty products is specially difficult if there's no nearby local shop or service provider available.
So doest that mean both containers 1 liter and 600ml will work fine with new 3.2 gen fermizilla 3 inch to 3 inch valve ?
No, the larger 1L containers lid reduces down from 3 inch.
Thanks for sharing David. I don't own one of these Fermzillas but I'm trying to visualize how they work - say I already have removed my yeast cake and then I wish to dry hop using this container, once I open the butterfly valve the hops would float up and the container would be filled with 600ml of beer. If I want to dry hop again, I would repeat the process and ultimately have 1.2L less in the fermenter and should consider in my recipe. Is this correct?
Yes that would be correct. Though naturally you wont be dry hopping every recipe and all fermenters will have some losses due to trub of course.
Or you can just turn the fermenter upside down, close the butterfly valve, remove the jar and do the 2nd DH
Great idea, I can already picture Khaby Lame's follow up and simply opening the top lid to DH 🤚🤚
Interesting option 🍻🍻🍻
So close to a great upgrade.
A 2" connection would be better than 3".
I am not a fan of the collection chamber as the screw on lid is very frustrating. And having to dump 1L is a large amount for a 5 gallon batch.
A core reason for 3” was to make it easier for removal. 600ml vs 1L is another core advantage as I see it 🍻🍻🍻
Completely agree. I bought a 2 inch steel elbow plus end cap that clamps onto the fermenter instead of the screw in collection vessel. Cost about 38 gbp. No leaks and problem solved without the 'upgrade'.
@@DavidHeathHomebrew I was just thinking about using it with the BrewBuilt X2 Jacketed Conical Fermenter.
Go for it. The 3” opening will be better for dry hopping too.