Hey everyone! Updated tier list time. Let me know how you feel about the list, I’m interested to hear opinions. I did my best to ask around for this tier list, the opinions here are largely my own, but there is some weighting from my community members too to give it a little more balance. Big thank you to my partner for helping me with collecting gameplay, he is much newer to the game, and I consulted them too for this video. Please give them lots of love
Oh my god we had a game against a guy with overcharge, eruption and call of brine tunneling me all game (he tunneled me the game right before too) and he just fuckin kicked a gen, put a guard, walked away. Every. Time. It was like a 43 minute game. The knight is my least favorite killer by far now
Tier list idea. Worst to best in terms of how strong their base attack would actually be. From “manageable injury” To “potentially mortal depending on wound location” To “you’d die immediately” And whatever inbetween.
Knight is definitely better if you start using his Guards as map control *and* in the chase. In this video, you could have stopped a gen in The Game's bathroom from going off by popping down a Guard there. He's practically the only killer I would say Call of Brine is a must-have on. Doesn't make him a top-tier killer or anything, but he's better then Sadako and Pig
@@cryguy0000 you don't want the summon to hit it; you wanna kick it yourself and then use your Guard to make sure it regresses. There are counters to this but all of them end up with some kind of positive for Knight. You get a Guard Hunt no matter what; and if the team is uncoordinated (solo q) they risk taking a hit to stop the regression. If the team is coordinated (swf) then you still occupy one extra survivors' time.
@@zeporion6091 I think he’s a better killer in the right hands. I main knight and I get consistent 4ks because I use my guards to pressure survivors off gens and I kicked them. I usually run bbq, call of brine, nowhere to hide, and corrupt intervention which is a pretty good build on knight overall. I think knight can be A tier whether I’m biased or not I have the personal experience to show he’s up there with the other killers. Now I understand most knights just camp gens but what they could do is leave a guard there to patrol and then move on to another survivor to down them and get bbq value. I don’t think the knight is getting very appreciated for what he can do.
@@crowlady6326 yeah I think he's A tier. Using Guards to pressure survivors in unique ways is something that only he can do, with the closest being Twins
the Knight is just constantly bullied, but remember he is one of two killers who can work alongside AI's directly, all it would take to make him stronger is to update him and give the ghost gang better AI, because the only other AI, which I think they might share code with, is the Zombies that appear with Nemesis.
also as an add on, I think it would be interesting if all of the killers got buffed, because in lore the trials are not meant to be nice for survivor players, now though the killers have a bad habit of just getting destroyed by good/smart survivor players
@@xavierdeal7547 I agree with you on that, although it would be cool to see and fun to play killer I think it would get stale a lot quicker. And I’m a killer main with 1700 kills and a couple dozen days worth of killer experience. Basically I know this would get stale. It’s more rewarding getting a 4k on a team of savvy survivors than on noob survivors.
so releateable! I have so much fun watching dbd videos and get nostalgia all the time. But as soon as i start up the game it's not the same as in the good old days...
@@breadfaceuk3823 bro I don’t even care if I lose tbh but don’t fucking tee bag me and get pissed when I down someone I camp because people be tee bagging me
Lmao i rather be caught by Dredge than man handled by Wesker whos attacks is explosive. I'll take my chances escaping Dredge than be Weskers ragdoll lol
An important thing to remember is, saying a killer is weak is not saying that they're incapable of performing well in the right hands, with comfort and experience, or under certain circumstances. I think you as the player have to work much harder to achieve a win with those killers than you might with a stronger killer. For example, I have gotten several 4ks with Sadako (not using a condemned strat, but focusing on fighting gens) but it's pretty much always a hard-fought battle. Still, in the end, it feels rewarding.
Sadako main here, i very much use condemned builds and gen slowdown and its still a hell of a fight for me to get 4Ks since i play against prestige 100 players and just good working teams but i still manage to get at the least 2 kills each game, i feel like i can get the same stuff with nurse but just wayyy faster (i have mained nurse) so ye some killers are weaker but not unplayable. It is kinda annoying that sadako can feel unplayable without certain addons
True, myers is considered weak, but I've snowballed games with him running unlimited t3, usually cause the survivors decided to fuck around and find out
I'm a Wraith main and I can honestly say that he's very underrated. Most players I've encountered typically run NOED and will tunnel when playing him, because they have zero gen regression perks and simply don't know how to traverse the map. I run Jolt, Pain Resonance, Discordance, and Lightborn with double Windstorm add-ons, and holy shit it is absolutely a disgusting build. I can get a perfect 4k with 4 or 5 gens still needing repair without having to camp or tunnel. It's all about how you play your killer and figuring out what works best for you.
Wraiths weakness is lack of anti loop and lack of speed when not cloaked, that 1-3 seconds of cloaking/uncloaking adds up quick when people gen rush and never fall for your mindgames mid chase same with Sadako. When you run into survivors that dont waste pallets while your cloaked or right after getting hit, its easy to notice
I read your comment like an hour ago and I started a match with the Wraith (Im a main till I unlock the doctor, I used to play on mobile and recently on pc) and man, 4/4 in just 10 minutes or less. Could have gone a little longer because a dude just surrendered and made the game quicker for me but for real its op, I used a similar build
yeah wraith is underrated but i do run noed until i get either blood warden or no way out because i dont have any good end game perks but i do run surge and pain res
There were definitely multiple killers which were in rather weird position i do not agree with but most of them were pretty accurate Also, blight is indeed very close to nurse. He has the best map pressure in the game whereas nurse has only above avagerage map traversal speed. His power is also extremely oppressive. Nurse has only the slight edge because off the "trough" wall aspect
@@realmaterman I would. Good blights will get u in no time . They ll just play around the loop . Hugtech on some tiles like palletgym is also hard to counter if blight does it superquick. I recommend you watch the otz video Top tier nurse vs top tier blight to see what i mean.
@@-_Jayden_- I saw the video, I mean more on maps with multiple stories specifically. I'm not a good player for sure, but having the ability to go through floors and ignore pallets seems like a strong edge. Blight's map traversal is better than nurses and his anti loop is top tier, but nurse feels like she has a tier of her own in anti loop
@@luciddbd Difficult to say tbh. They are both on a very simular level. I may even agree with you on that. Blight has INCREDIBLE mobility, best in the entire game and very good chase potential. Nurse has god nurse potential but only above average mobility. So yea-
Knight is powerful. I use brown addons that make guards execute orders faster and have extra 4m radius. For example, I had ritual to get 5 guard hits. Took only one match to get it done.
Forged In Fog's bitter reception is understandable given how clunky Knight is to face. The survivor perspective of him is far more engaging than that of assuming his role too. The sound design is stellar but all the killers nail that. Also, Vittorio's ugly sweater is what his default should have been imo. I'm aware he had to scavenge for clothes in his lore but he should be more ancient-looking. He's the first survivor from another time period. The modern look takes away from the medieval.
His entire lore is that he’s been trapped in the realm for centuries thus it makes sense that his clothing would reflect various times as he has knowledge of past, present, and future all at once.
I love playing as Wesker ( he is my main). I think he is really fun to play and being able to choke and throw survivors make him even better. Additionally, he has 40m of terror radius, which means that you can combine that with starstruck, agitation, distressing and awakened awareness. This build makes him extremely strong.
He can curve his camera to choose direction of your throw. With this flicks u can hit survivors 95% times. He is definitely 4th strongest killer in the game.
@@ginrummyjm87 Why not? The game is better if the killer cannot attack. The game is so killer sided. Gens take so long to do. The least they can do is remove his ability.
I think you've underrated the Knight quite a lot. He's defintiely not some S-tier god and there are certainly some annoying bugs with his power, but he's not weaker than Trapper, Pig, and Myers. Used correctly, his power can flat deny loops, force survivors off gens, instantly get rid of an inconvenient breakable wall (you can literally go right through as the Carnifex is still in animation!), flush out anyone hovering for a flashlight save, and generally put survivors severely out of position. The guards don't necessarily exist to get hits, they exist to remove inconveniences and *force survivors to misplay.*
All very true, but playing him, I can’t help but feel he’s weak. The longest ritual for me is getting guards to hit people 5 times. Every other one I can do in one match, his takes 3. They need to improve the ai, maybe increase their speed too with add ons
When he first was released, I only escape him once out of (about) 20 games. I played him the other week - he doesn't pop up as much since the first week they released him but again, I did not escape him. I had a fun time though thanks to the rare instance of a good team via solo que. Anyway, I think the one thing I do hate about him is the perk that instantly exposes you - I can't remember if it's from a pallet stun or good skill check on a gen. Overall, if the bugs aren't being dumb and it's an experienced DBD killer, he's been pretty solid each time I've gone up against him.
@@vikkiann7797 I could escape every game against the Knights I faced, partly because they relied on their guards way too much and did not do any chasing themselves, only forced the survivors off of gens, then immediately went to using their guards. Neither of them got a kill
He's recently been nerfed slightly, his Ghosts no longer go through Pallets and i believe Windows as well. So your ghosts have trouble catching up alot of times, besides still having all the weaknesses he had before such as long start up time and touching the banner ending the hunt He is strong in a 3 gen, but so isnt every killer. The strongest thing in both Knight and now Skull Merchants arsenal is the lack of common knowledge on how to counter them because of how new they are comparatively. So while the people that consistantly study and play this game know how to counter him, a ton of players dont
Exactly what ive been saying and they aren't new survivors. Though im a ghostface main, I dont think the knight should be nowhere near the weak list. People just dont get creative when placing AIs so thats why i think people pick on knight lol its not knights fault that players dont take full advantage of his abilities.
31:05 Dredge’s addons are awesome. Malthinker’s Skull, Haddie’s Calendar, Field Recorder, Boat Keys, and Ottomarian Writing are all great and improve every aspect of his kit. Being able to pick and choose between these main five to make a variety of different builds with different strengths makes Dredge wildly unpredictable with how you should counter him. Ottomarian and Boat Keys make your teleports and, by proxy, remnant better outside of Nightfall, and allow you to use locker teleports as a legitimate chase strategy out of nightfall. Without them, it’s much riskier to use your power, both remnant and TP. Malthinker’s and Recorder allow you to get in Nightfall fast, as well as encourage keeping survivors injured, which further improves your slowdown by making survivors prioritize healing, and your ability to get downs. Haddie’s Calendar helps counter your one counter of locking lockers. This pairs great with Boat Keys and even the Sacrificial Knife to trap survivors. There’s a couple others like the one that increases Nightfall charges when teleporting which is also quite good, just has a bit less synergy than those I’ve mentioned so far. Another Honorable Mention is the Broken Doll which extends Nightfall. All around great, though you will want to bring it with Malthinker’s or Recorder. Overall, Dredge’s addons are pretty great. Nothing as revolutionary and OP as Nurse or blight, but definitely above average.
His addons remind me of Artist's addons, actually. Nothing broken, as you said, like Blight's, Spirit's, or Nurse's; but a ton of addons that just make the killer better and more fun to play. I think BHVR has been making killers with this sort of addon variety more often recently, and honestly, I think it's way more healthy than their old design philosophy.
I really do think that the dredge was placed lower than he actually is on this list. He takes a lot of time to understand properly and even without addons he exerts so much control over the map. It also takes understanding from both points of view as to how lockers are chosen. It's in a group rather than individual and the game will send you to a locked locker before an unlocked one. It will also pick the locker someone is hiding in over the empty one. Survivors who lock everything early make the late game (dredge's strongest) harder for them as locks are destroyed with a simple m1 attack. I do personally think sacrificial knife is really not worth being an iridescent addon to take as you should be pressuring survivors into loops with vaults. Usually you use remnant to counter the loop or tp to the next tile over to pressure them into a corner on your own.
@@coagulatedwater937 I agree. It sucks that Sacrificial should probably apply outside of nightfall and block them for longer or a farther range for it to be iri. Right now, it feels like a green add on in limbo of being bad but the one time it’s occasionally useful, it’s great.
As a Freddy main (yes, they exist), i strongly disagree with the cannibal being lower than mah boi, sure Freddy can teleport, make chases last shorter, and has the dreamworld, but Bubba's instadown is way stronger than all of this, and the tantrum is actually not that hard to avoid.
@borysowicz5096 I prestiged 3 Freddy 3 years ago on ps4 (I loved how he worked before), on Xbox I barley touch him now. It saddens me how much potential Freddy can have
Bro thank u so much, Bubba is easily the most underrated killer in the game IMO his ability to insta down people with little to no slow down, with the fact that he moves quicker in the ability than his normal speed makes the chainsaw almost un dodgeable unless you have an exhaustion perk timed perfectly or a Vault, and even with the Vault is the bubba is half decent then they can just stop revving the chainsaw and go around. Plus he just breaks strait threw pallets. - If anyone has tips on how to avoid his chainsaw then I'm all ears.
A neat buff for Clown could be that the clouds linger longer or maybe even just replace one of his bad addons with something that increases the duration the clouds last for. It could open up some new strategies.
Knight dont have a mobility and I think he is weak than Onryo.. As a Onryo-main I can say she is better than Trapper.. she is super-mobility and with ultrarare tape she can teleports many times.. and then sometimes survivors need to turn off tv, and he spends time on it. Also sometimes her flickering can confuse survivors.. and with her addon (to increase flickering) she can be slightly decent on palletlooping... but she needs a full rework.
@@bigbrainonimain9226 You don't really need a condemn focused build to use her power efficiently. She's really tough to master and not very good, but i wouldn't say she's garbage.
@@yuzin9028 she's very easy to play as her power has very little to learn and has no mechanical demands. She's terrible without the iri addon because without it she's a pseudo stealth killer with no antiloop and a mobility power on a 2 minute cooldown
@@bigbrainonimain9226 Watch Onepumpwillie play her, he really expands on the ways you can play Sadako. Predicting what the survivors are doing, being alert to the survivors that have tapes, where they got the tapes, which tvs they have to put the tapes, you can get a condemn kill almost every match without a build focused on that, which often leads to a win
If there's anything I've commonly noticed vs a Nemesis, they don't know and/or underestimate the reach of tier 2 and more importantly tier 3 Tentacle Strike.
I'd argue that sadako and the knight aren't weak killers, sadako is easily top 15 if you just decide to go with a condemning playstyle rather than a normal hit and run style, as for the knight he needs days of practice and learning the AIs. While he is rather inconsistent, he isn't bottom 5 killers, bottom 10 at minimum. Condemn onryo is easily top 20 if not top 15
Buffing him isnt enough A killer's main ability relying on IA is just the worst idea ever made They need to completely change his power with maybe adding the guards as a second little power, like nemesis zombies
I main Knight and he is in no way the second weakest killer in the game. People place him so low because they’re not using his power right. This is also outside of camping, tunneling , and holding 3 gens hostage for 30 minutes. Although he can do everything I listed well, there’s much more to his kit than that. The guards being able to kick generators and pallets is actually his strongest tool. Same with pallets. Survivors underestimate how quick the Carnifex can break a pallet or gen mid-chase. And while the other guards damage things slower, while damaging a generator, it cannot be worked on. So if you can catch a gen at 99% with a guard, you’re able to hold it for much longer thanks to the distance from which you can send a guard.
Knight and twins are awesome to play (when bugs don't hamstring you again) the amount of tricks and maneuvers your allowed to play Is truly one of a kind
Twins are fun. Nasty bug with her right now tho. Switching from victor to Charlotte causes you to have stare at the ground with Charlotte unable to move camera or attack. Snuffing out a totem or switching to victor csuses you to have to dc. Can’t do anything. Unable to do actions. (Console PlayStation)
See and That right there is why i think they are horribly underated bc most players want easy moves, not movesets that excel when players think outside the box (most don't which is why theres alot of nurse mains lol)
I think I'd have to disagree with you say the strongest killer is the Nurse. I think it's the Oni. Though the Nurse can teleport which is a powerful ability but it's easier to know where the Nurse is going to teleport compared where the Oni is going to go. Once Oni's ability is activated he goes into the 2nd longest Sprint after Billy's infinite sprint and Oni doesn't get stunned after he stops sprinting and he doesn't sprint just forward. He goes anywhere you want him to go for about a good minute and he has an attack that's a one hit down and he doesn't get stunned when he runs into obstacles. Therefore making Oni's power much stronger than the Nurse's power mainly do to the Nurse getting stunned after each teleport. Not saying she's not strong but I just don't believe she's the strongest killer. I'd have to say the Oni is the strongest killer
it’s super easy to know where the oni goes you can visibly see which way he’s gonna turn before he does it, and he’s also hindered by a good window, nurse isn’t at all weakened or affected by anything survivors can do
@@nexryyy I'm not getting into this with you due to how old my comment and because I was stating my views. Whether you agree with me or not I don't care. Your views are your views and my views are mine and nobody is going to change my views just because they have different views. If you have different views then cool. There are so many different killers on DBD now that it all depends on the person and who they think is the strongest. You obviously believe that there's a different killer who is the strongest. Okay. That's your opinion. Leave me to mine.
Knight has one of the best ways to protect and pressure a generator(s). If you play with Call of Brine and you leave jailer to lurk there.. it will regress a lot until jailer despawns! And survivors can either take the hit from follower, stop regression early but this will also alert the knight. Especially in the end when there are 1 gen left to do aka 3 gens standing, you can lock the gens so nicely. Knight also has unique way of having 100% chance of hitting someone at certain locations because of his follower. Impossible to mind game without dead hard or something else that gives invulnerability momentarily. I understand Knight is really new but you are imo severely underestimating him. Looking forward to see if he stays as 2nd bottom on your list.
👀🤌 even as a biased typical survivor main, I always love listening to your dialogue about killers and all your videos about them, it helps me re-evaluate my own opinions on certain killers that have only ever been influenced by how many times I've been tunneled/camped by them and nothing else lmfao so hearing what you (+ others) think about them in terms of weaknesses/strengths and just your opinions on all things dbd are always nice to listen to, especially at work. appreciate all the content you've put out so far and looking forward to watching more next year as well 😌💕
Pig is the easiest killer to use in my opinion. most survivors waste their time worrying about the bear traps and that gives you more time to hook the rest while they aren’t on gens
Sadako's ability is pretty much Wraiths cloaking power with Hag's trap mechanic put together on one killer, it's a cool idea but it could be smoother, her power just feels really janky tbh
Sadako main here, u just gotta learn how to use her power in the way you feel comfortable and it will stop feeling janky, (she kinda is a Wraith Freddy mix ye)
Sadako is hella fun, usually play similar to Wraith/Trapper with the map traversal of Freddy/Dredge. Always fun to get a good demanifest fakeout or counter loop on a teleport or herding the chase survivor towards tv's to build condemned.
Plague with Iri seal and amulet (+20s) is S tier killer. Such a disgusting combo. I've been maining Plague over 2 years and I used this combo so rare. Disgusting!
I think the reason you don’t think knight is good is because a lot of people play him wrong, the moment you accept your gaurds won’t get any hits on their own, is the moment you start to do well with him, your gaurds should be used in 2 ways, 1 is to put pressure on survivors, make them run away from an area, and 2 is to get hits quickly, the gaurd can be used to show you where the survivor is, you want to cut off the survivor and hit them yourself, then let them run off, if you can keep the enemy team injured at most times then that becomes quick downs with little counterplay, giving a powerful snowball effect
Strongly disagree about the Knight. He might be lowish if abiding by the Survivors Rules for Killers, but that aside, I've seen the Knight lockdown gens indefinitely, tag team camp hooks through entire hook states and worst.
Something I think would make the knight a little more viable is if his patrol stayed around until either A. It engages a survivor, or B. You summon the next guard. That was kind of how I thought it worked based off of the ability description in the store.
maybe instead of clown's bottles slowing down the survivors and blurring survivors vision maybe it could slow them down and just completely blind them? I feel like that would make him stronger. And maybe he could have an amount of pink bottles and separately have an amount of yellow bottles rather than them having the same storage space.
Honestly I can do well with all the killers but my main has always been Ghostface and my other common ones are pyramid head, cenobite, and trickster because they are very fun. Typically though if I want a good game I'll rock Ghostface simply because I am very efficient with him
In my opinion, the knight strenght os not chasing survivors, but to mantain control of an area like trapper or hag without the need to set up. Your main focus with the guards is to shut down loops or force survivers our of gens not to get hits. I reccomend Choys guide for more info.
As a Deathslinger main, I agree with placment, but think he should be higher since addons like iridescent coin completely shut down loops. Slinger is also great because he can shoot through tiny holes, so people were completely caught off guard when I shot them through these.
I was wondering if you would do a tier list, or honestly just a list, of "meta" builds for both survivors and killers. I know this would probably take lots of research, but it would be great to go back into the history of DBD and remember the olden days of Machine Gun Meyers or Ruin Guard
Honestly I rarely use knights power like that. I prefer to use it as a loop shutdown that's better then clowns or as a info tool/scare tactic by using it to check on gens from afar. Saves me time from having to walk all the way to each gen to check them, and if the guard Does catch a survivor I can choose to commit to a chase or harass other survivors off a gen or go kick the one they were initially on.
The Knight isn't that weak tbh. From what I've experienced, he does really well with crowd control believe it or not. I use the Jailer to camp the hooked Survivor while I'm looking for other Survivors. The other two guards, and at times Jailer, were mainly summoned for immediate blocking of pallets and vaults to flush the Survivor out. Hell I even placed guards on top of downed survivors to protect myself from being blocked and blinded. If everything is done right with good perks, addons, and strategy, Knight can be quite powerful in the right situations.
People underestimate Knight so much. I've been playing him a ton recently and I think he's at the very least low A-tier. Definitely top 10, imo. His zoning potential is insane. I've won (3k or 4k) something in the ballpark of 85-90 of the roughly 100 games I've played with him. Honestly, the people who think he's bad just straight up don't understand what his strengths are and how to avoid his weaknesses. And definitely don't know how to use his power strategically and properly. Let alone his addons, which are BUSTED.
@@jayredharpstudios9672 because they don't understand what makes him good and how to compensate for his weaknesses, like I said in the original comment
@@reductosmash2483 the Knight, for me, even as someone who tried him out, is just a lousy killer; survivors can consistently outrun his guards, and all the Knight would do is stand where the gens are and keep on spawning guards, sometimes forcing a survivor off of gen by themselves and compared to the killer released before him, Wesker, he is a letdown and disappointment.
@@jayredharpstudios9672 well I get consistent 3 and 4ks with him because I actually understand how he's supposed to be played. I play a very aggressive but nuanced zoning game with him and I've even 4ked an all P100 team with 4 gens left and the team ended up being a competitive tournament team. After my initial few games of learning him, I haven't had a single team of survivors finish all gens. All escapes have been through hatch. I guess you just have to have the strategic mind for him
Bunch of BS. Spirit never was, nor is, nor ever will be the strongest killer. Number one is forever Nurse. And all you noobs don't even have the slightest taste of what she was like when she came out. They nerfed her by a factor of 10 and she is still far ahead in her own S tier.
For all the weak killers I was like nah they should be higher. But then I realized it is cuz there are no weak killers cuz dbd is so heavily killer sided rn.
Onryo should be way higher on this list imo, she's incredibly underrated. Firstly I think she has a lot more power in a chase than what people say she does, using the iridiecsent tape it's easy to keep most TVs turned on at once, so if you play it smart you can wait until a survivor leaves a loop and project in front of them catching them off guard, this is especially powerful if you are using bloody finger nails since you can catch up super easily. She also has insane map control abilities, especially with the iri tape, you're able to teleport next to every single generator super quickly. Combine this with call of brine and it works great. Teleport to a generator, hit the survivor and damage the gen, teleport away. Wait for call of brine to alert then teleport back and down the survivor, assuming they haven't healed. On multiple occasions I've been able to have all 4 survivors dead before any or only one gen is done. That's not to mention her condemn strat. by using the ring drawing which spreads condemned through healing actions you can avoid hooking survivors until the very end game. If you find a survivor and hit them one, or preferably twice and down them, they're going to have to be healed by someone which spreads condemned to them. Not needing to hook survivors in this time means you can spend more time focusing on other survivors or damaging gens. It'll be a slow game but once you get down to the last gen, with a bit of strategy for a good 3 gen it's nearly impossible for survivors to repair the last gen since you're constantly forcing them to stop to heal each other to retrieve a tape to remove condemned. I've gone from being at 1 gen left without a single hooked survivor to ending the game with the gates closed and 4/4 kills. I probably didn't do the best job of explaining it here but if you watch One pump willie you'll see how good she can be if played right.
Interesting, I use a Condemn-focused build for Sadako, and I use her purple addon that makes it, so every survivor starts with a tape and then an addon so any survivors that witness the manifestation will scream, and it works out pretty decent for me, most of the time anyways.
@@jayredharpstudios9672 I use that paired with the one that gives you the heal state condem for passive build. My prob with the purple add on is once they put the tape away tho the add on is kinda useless. Try the Iri tape with the bloody fingernail it’s sooo aggressive Frfr. You move Soo fast out of the tv it’s almost a guarantee hit to reset the tvs.
This is a good list and gives you a good idea on which are better than worse than others based on certain factors. But one factor left out is fun! It’s not always about winning or killing everyone! Some killers are just fun to play for what they do or the terror they provide so remember to play who you have the most fun with!
What makes knight so weak is many factors. The stupid green orb when making a path, guard green circle, and the fact that he can’t place guards down in many, many spots. He’s a safe space killer for survivors, if they removed all the green shit he would be a threat.
Well this is a long video lol. Right off the bat I saw knight on #29. I think he is a lot more powerful than that, but as you said the AI can just glitch out and get stuck in a corner.
@@theslavicrat3784 i will now just state one simple little thing, your knights are never getting hits, they are a zoning tool, knights strength is in anti loop, zoning, and lategame, as during the endgame his genlocks when done right, are unbreakable without repressed alliance
I noticed he didn’t pick the “weak” killers per se but rather he is ranking them based on how difficult they are to master. A really skilled Clown can wreak havoc on teams but it’s really difficult to become that good so it’s not a weak Killer just a hard to master Killer.
On the huntress I find it is so rewarding to bait out survivors pallets then while the animation is ending throw your weapon at them and its a free hit
Knight should be higher imo. When I play him against pretty good survivors in Red Ranks (if ranks even matter anymore) and I barely do less than 3 kills because of some shenanigans like survivors being spotted through walls or the guards being able to float towards a survivor if they are a floor higher, which in many cases can seem dodgy of how the guards bug out, having their model bounce up and down. Edit: I forgot to mention how extremely powerful and boring Knight is when survivors manage to 3 gen themselves. If they manage to do 3 gen, it's already game over, but in a very slow and boring way. You can send guards towards the gens 24/7 and never survivors are not able to even do 1% on a gen.
Red rank is easily farmed now, so they don't matter. Your hidden mmr does. I haven't played the knight, but from watching others play him I'm surprised he wasn't put in average, and was placed in weak.
shitker would be like high B tier at best if he worked properly but considering its been months and he can still grab you around corners, through wall, windows, and pallets and still has infection that grows while in chase hes A I still dont quite get why he has the built in slowdown like I feel like at that point they should just go all out on stupid base kit buffs and to give Spirit a cleansing ritual you should have to do in order to not be instadown but her post phase hits and Blight a derumfication to not go down in 1 shot to lethal rushes cuz they have strong chase power but not free slowdown cuz they dont need it and neither does shitker but he still has it it, its such bad design
Won my last 5 matches as Knight going for constant 2v1's in and around dead zones. He's not as bad as people make out tbh. 3 gen works well but he isn't reliant on it
I feel like there’s a difference between strength of a killer and what playstyle a killer promotes. For example, Bubba is pretty weak but if you facecamp, he’s the best killer in the game
he's not good, but his power is entirely broken in the case of genlocks. which if you don't know, he can casually hold with no effort for more than an hour.
Honestly when I first started DBD before they gave clown yellow bottles and managed to get quite a few 4Ks and I remember getting four of four mori's once
A tier list based simply on how much I like them overall: 33) Skull Merchant, 32) Legion, 31) Clown, 30) Pig, 29) Huntress, 28) Nightmare, 27) Singularity 26) Twins, 25) Trickster, 24) Cannibal, 23) Mastermind, 22) Deathslinger, 21) Hillbilly, 20) Wraith, 19) Cenobite, 18) Onryo, 17) Knight, 16) Nurse, 15) Doctor, 14) Oni, 13) Plague, 12) Shape, 11) Trapper, 10) Xenomorph, 9) Ghost Face, 8) Nemesis, 7) Spirit, 6) Blight, 5) Executioner, 4) Hag, 3) Artist, 2) Demogorgon, 1) Dredge Some killers I love to play, some I hate to play against, but this list overall is just based on how cool they are despite how easy/hard they are to play or face.
All killers are good if the person knows to how to use them but since not everyone is good at using other kills power they call them “bad” or “worst killer”
Maybe a video on Killers ranked based on how nice / enjoyable they are to face in-game? Like the survivor one you did where you ranked how good of a teammate they are, and their toxicity
Having binged a lot of his videos, and looking through comments , Ghostface seems to be one of the most popular killers to face, Ghostface's are apparently very chill, and sometimes play around with survivors, but aren't just going to throw a match, so Ghostface would probably be ranked very high on that list.
@@themightycongueror8383 I have only gotten one chill Ghostface and four chill Weskers out of six, so they are by far the most chill for killers. Ghostfaces that I run across always use the same build and always try hards
The knight being the lowest is the craziest thing ive ever heard, hes the only killer who can double hit you into an insta down (his "pet" based guards like nemesis don't cause a moment of relief like with nemesis where they can't double hit you) with his people who will now always catch up if someone doesnt grab the banner... he has insane 3 gen almost worse then skull merchant and has the BIGGEST WIDEST swing hitbox ive ever seen, probably worse then spirits, he needs a nerf to the cooldown of his guards and reduce there radiuses by half
Knight is definetly not on Spot 29. If he works how he's supposed to be he's pretty strong in the right setup. Even if you just compare the killers on base without add ons/perks, he is definetly not behind Killers like Trickster or Trapper(which is btw my weakest Killer. You have literally no power against good survivors who know how to counter him. One of them will run behind you the whole time and disarm everything you place). Also Onryo on 28? Onryo is super annoying and strong if played right. Her short height and the fact that she remains invisible a split second after uncloacking helps often even on strong loops.
i dont think sadako needs anti-heal, she just needs info gathering like bbq or her own scourge hook perk and she can snowball super hard hook>teleport>hit>chase>hook>repeat Im a newish player but ive consistently been getting 2 blips on rank progress and 3/4 ks without add ons also her demanifest is perfect for mind games, brown add ons help but arnt necessary
Sadako is really good at lower and mid levels, but can suffer when you run into players that are good in chase. She actually has one of the best kill-rates in the game by percentage, because she's great against the average group of survivors. It's just when you run into a good team of survivors that can loop you for a long period, you'll likely find it extremely difficult to get a down.
as a freddy main, i can make use outta the dream pallets ALL the time. Unless its a super well coordinated SWF calling out dream pallets, they fall for it. Or they pre drop them but then i get notification where they are. And while in chase, pre dropping also wastes a little bit of time. The snares are just very inconsistent at times. So i always play with pallets.
@@ethancoolbro18gamer86 i play since april last year and i lvl up almost all killers so my prestiges are very consistent between all the various killers. I believe he is at prestige 5 or 6 right now. While all the others are also on at least prestige 3. I know for certain legion and clown are on p4 because i main them before i did main freddy. So when im speaking of maining freddy doesnt neccessarly mean i only play him, i switch trough killers alot. But hes one of those i can play best with and the one most fun to me ^^ thats why i call him my main killer.
Very great video I have yet to use some killers but for the most part I agree with your list. I would love to see a list where you rate The wintery cosmetics for the killers. Keep up the great work and happy holidays 🎄😁
Hey everyone! Updated tier list time. Let me know how you feel about the list, I’m interested to hear opinions. I did my best to ask around for this tier list, the opinions here are largely my own, but there is some weighting from my community members too to give it a little more balance. Big thank you to my partner for helping me with collecting gameplay, he is much newer to the game, and I consulted them too for this video. Please give them lots of love
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This is the dumbest list I have ever seen the knight is way more powerful then people are led to believe
It's bad, like really bad, some positions is fine, but the most of them....
I'm honestly surprised how high you placed pig, considering bubba is lower but this is good nonethe less. Shows how much the meta changed!
this is a really good list! thanks :D
Knight holding survivors for 1 hour hostage by protecting 3 gens:
True lol they never chase
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Oh my god we had a game against a guy with overcharge, eruption and call of brine tunneling me all game (he tunneled me the game right before too) and he just fuckin kicked a gen, put a guard, walked away. Every. Time. It was like a 43 minute game. The knight is my least favorite killer by far now
@@cutepapaya2224 all knights do is camp and tunnel.
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Tier list idea. Worst to best in terms of how strong their base attack would actually be.
From “manageable injury”
To “potentially mortal depending on wound location”
To “you’d die immediately”
And whatever inbetween.
Knight would be "you'd die immediately"
This is a great idea
@@danboisoepic4544 Ya, a top down heavy broadsword would annihilate anyone.
Plague and Nemesis at the bottom, probably Executioner or knight at the top
@@May-gr8bp If you get punched by Nemesis on the head it would splatter like a watermelon
Knight is definitely better if you start using his Guards as map control *and* in the chase. In this video, you could have stopped a gen in The Game's bathroom from going off by popping down a Guard there. He's practically the only killer I would say Call of Brine is a must-have on. Doesn't make him a top-tier killer or anything, but he's better then Sadako and Pig
Call of Brine wouldn't activate if his summon hit it
@@cryguy0000 you don't want the summon to hit it; you wanna kick it yourself and then use your Guard to make sure it regresses. There are counters to this but all of them end up with some kind of positive for Knight. You get a Guard Hunt no matter what; and if the team is uncoordinated (solo q) they risk taking a hit to stop the regression. If the team is coordinated (swf) then you still occupy one extra survivors' time.
@@zeporion6091 I think he’s a better killer in the right hands. I main knight and I get consistent 4ks because I use my guards to pressure survivors off gens and I kicked them. I usually run bbq, call of brine, nowhere to hide, and corrupt intervention which is a pretty good build on knight overall. I think knight can be A tier whether I’m biased or not I have the personal experience to show he’s up there with the other killers. Now I understand most knights just camp gens but what they could do is leave a guard there to patrol and then move on to another survivor to down them and get bbq value. I don’t think the knight is getting very appreciated for what he can do.
@@crowlady6326 yeah I think he's A tier. Using Guards to pressure survivors in unique ways is something that only he can do, with the closest being Twins
@@zeporion6091 for sure!
the Knight is just constantly bullied, but remember he is one of two killers who can work alongside AI's directly, all it would take to make him stronger is to update him and give the ghost gang better AI, because the only other AI, which I think they might share code with, is the Zombies that appear with Nemesis.
also as an add on, I think it would be interesting if all of the killers got buffed, because in lore the trials are not meant to be nice for survivor players, now though the killers have a bad habit of just getting destroyed by good/smart survivor players
@@xavierdeal7547 I agree with you on that, although it would be cool to see and fun to play killer I think it would get stale a lot quicker. And I’m a killer main with 1700 kills and a couple dozen days worth of killer experience. Basically I know this would get stale. It’s more rewarding getting a 4k on a team of savvy survivors than on noob survivors.
The knight is absolutely broken wtf are yall on about...
Your videos cure the burned out feeling I get from playing the game
I feel the same way, watching dbd is more fun than playing dbd most of the time
so releateable! I have so much fun watching dbd videos and get nostalgia all the time. But as soon as i start up the game it's not the same as in the good old days...
I find it weird that when I watch dbd videos there are a lot less toxic survivors but when I play the game I get tea bags non stop
@@breadfaceuk3823 bro I don’t even care if I lose tbh but don’t fucking tee bag me and get pissed when I down someone I camp because people be tee bagging me
Let's be honest, Dbd hasn't added shirtless Wesker to the game yet because he's to intimidating and handsome. Survivors would willingly get caught
I already willingly get caught, lol
HELP I ALWAYS SEE YOU COMMENTING ABOUT SHIRTLESS WESKER BUT FACTSSS, I'LL WILLINGLY LET WESKER CATCH ME
That also why Heisenberg isn't in game yet?
Meh. I'm still gonna run. No way I want to catch THAT as an STI. Besides... Heisenberg is hotter in my opinion.
Lmao i rather be caught by Dredge than man handled by Wesker whos attacks is explosive. I'll take my chances escaping Dredge than be Weskers ragdoll lol
An important thing to remember is, saying a killer is weak is not saying that they're incapable of performing well in the right hands, with comfort and experience, or under certain circumstances. I think you as the player have to work much harder to achieve a win with those killers than you might with a stronger killer. For example, I have gotten several 4ks with Sadako (not using a condemned strat, but focusing on fighting gens) but it's pretty much always a hard-fought battle. Still, in the end, it feels rewarding.
agreed, i main sadako and i almost never use condemned builds, it can be tricky sometimes to win but its very very satysfying and fun!
Sadako main here, i very much use condemned builds and gen slowdown and its still a hell of a fight for me to get 4Ks since i play against prestige 100 players and just good working teams but i still manage to get at the least 2 kills each game, i feel like i can get the same stuff with nurse but just wayyy faster (i have mained nurse) so ye some killers are weaker but not unplayable. It is kinda annoying that sadako can feel unplayable without certain addons
True, myers is considered weak, but I've snowballed games with him running unlimited t3, usually cause the survivors decided to fuck around and find out
Yeah Myers can be a nightmare sometime
I'm a Wraith main and I can honestly say that he's very underrated. Most players I've encountered typically run NOED and will tunnel when playing him, because they have zero gen regression perks and simply don't know how to traverse the map. I run Jolt, Pain Resonance, Discordance, and Lightborn with double Windstorm add-ons, and holy shit it is absolutely a disgusting build. I can get a perfect 4k with 4 or 5 gens still needing repair without having to camp or tunnel. It's all about how you play your killer and figuring out what works best for you.
I've been playing wraith to out of 10 games I've only had 1 guy escape
Wraiths weakness is lack of anti loop and lack of speed when not cloaked, that 1-3 seconds of cloaking/uncloaking adds up quick when people gen rush and never fall for your mindgames mid chase same with Sadako. When you run into survivors that dont waste pallets while your cloaked or right after getting hit, its easy to notice
I read your comment like an hour ago and I started a match with the Wraith (Im a main till I unlock the doctor, I used to play on mobile and recently on pc) and man, 4/4 in just 10 minutes or less. Could have gone a little longer because a dude just surrendered and made the game quicker for me but for real its op, I used a similar build
yeah wraith is underrated but i do run noed until i get either blood warden or no way out because i dont have any good end game perks but i do run surge and pain res
take out lightborn and this build is comp
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There were definitely multiple killers which were in rather weird position i do not agree with but most of them were pretty accurate
Also, blight is indeed very close to nurse. He has the best map pressure in the game whereas nurse has only above avagerage map traversal speed. His power is also extremely oppressive. Nurse has only the slight edge because off the "trough" wall aspect
I wouldn't call nurse's ability to go through walls a 'slight' edge. It's way less reactable than blight's rush
@@realmaterman I would. Good blights will get u in no time . They ll just play around the loop . Hugtech on some tiles like palletgym is also hard to counter if blight does it superquick.
I recommend you watch the otz video Top tier nurse vs top tier blight to see what i mean.
@@-_Jayden_- I saw the video, I mean more on maps with multiple stories specifically. I'm not a good player for sure, but having the ability to go through floors and ignore pallets seems like a strong edge. Blight's map traversal is better than nurses and his anti loop is top tier, but nurse feels like she has a tier of her own in anti loop
blight > nurse, prove me otherwise
@@luciddbd Difficult to say tbh. They are both on a very simular level. I may even agree with you on that. Blight has INCREDIBLE mobility, best in the entire game and very good chase potential. Nurse has god nurse potential but only above average mobility. So yea-
Knight is powerful. I use brown addons that make guards execute orders faster and have extra 4m radius. For example, I had ritual to get 5 guard hits. Took only one match to get it done.
Honestly I don't see the point of doing orders faster
@@nunziosapio1225 insta pallet breaks
A couple of things I noticed. Distance does not effect Ghost Face's stalk speed. Madness Tier 3 doesn't keep Survivors from unhooking.
Forged In Fog's bitter reception is understandable given how clunky Knight is to face. The survivor perspective of him is far more engaging than that of assuming his role too. The sound design is stellar but all the killers nail that. Also, Vittorio's ugly sweater is what his default should have been imo. I'm aware he had to scavenge for clothes in his lore but he should be more ancient-looking. He's the first survivor from another time period. The modern look takes away from the medieval.
Oh he is the guy from the lore? I just assumed he was like a descendant or something
His entire lore is that he’s been trapped in the realm for centuries thus it makes sense that his clothing would reflect various times as he has knowledge of past, present, and future all at once.
I have waiting for this
Me when mfs online cannot use correct grammar
I have waiting too man, I get it
YEAH!!!
This should be the correct spelling I will change the dictionary and no one can stop me
I love playing as Wesker ( he is my main). I think he is really fun to play and being able to choke and throw survivors make him even better. Additionally, he has 40m of terror radius, which means that you can combine that with starstruck, agitation, distressing and awakened awareness. This build makes him extremely strong.
He can curve his camera to choose direction of your throw. With this flicks u can hit survivors 95% times. He is definitely 4th strongest killer in the game.
They need to nerf his dash charge rate
@@ginrummyjm87 They also need to remove his ability to dash.
@@kaister901 can't say remove it all together just nerf it to where it can't be spammed
@@ginrummyjm87 Why not? The game is better if the killer cannot attack. The game is so killer sided. Gens take so long to do. The least they can do is remove his ability.
I think you've underrated the Knight quite a lot. He's defintiely not some S-tier god and there are certainly some annoying bugs with his power, but he's not weaker than Trapper, Pig, and Myers. Used correctly, his power can flat deny loops, force survivors off gens, instantly get rid of an inconvenient breakable wall (you can literally go right through as the Carnifex is still in animation!), flush out anyone hovering for a flashlight save, and generally put survivors severely out of position. The guards don't necessarily exist to get hits, they exist to remove inconveniences and *force survivors to misplay.*
All very true, but playing him, I can’t help but feel he’s weak. The longest ritual for me is getting guards to hit people 5 times. Every other one I can do in one match, his takes 3. They need to improve the ai, maybe increase their speed too with add ons
When he first was released, I only escape him once out of (about) 20 games. I played him the other week - he doesn't pop up as much since the first week they released him but again, I did not escape him. I had a fun time though thanks to the rare instance of a good team via solo que. Anyway, I think the one thing I do hate about him is the perk that instantly exposes you - I can't remember if it's from a pallet stun or good skill check on a gen. Overall, if the bugs aren't being dumb and it's an experienced DBD killer, he's been pretty solid each time I've gone up against him.
@@vikkiann7797 I could escape every game against the Knights I faced, partly because they relied on their guards way too much and did not do any chasing themselves, only forced the survivors off of gens, then immediately went to using their guards. Neither of them got a kill
He's recently been nerfed slightly, his Ghosts no longer go through Pallets and i believe Windows as well. So your ghosts have trouble catching up alot of times, besides still having all the weaknesses he had before such as long start up time and touching the banner ending the hunt
He is strong in a 3 gen, but so isnt every killer. The strongest thing in both Knight and now Skull Merchants arsenal is the lack of common knowledge on how to counter them because of how new they are comparatively. So while the people that consistantly study and play this game know how to counter him, a ton of players dont
Fr I played against him yesterday as a surviver and we all got killed the first 2 min in 😂
the fact that Knight can hold the entire game hostage using his AI in a 3 gen situation on certain maps is so broken it's actually kinda funny.
Exactly what ive been saying and they aren't new survivors. Though im a ghostface main, I dont think the knight should be nowhere near the weak list. People just dont get creative when placing AIs so thats why i think people pick on knight lol its not knights fault that players dont take full advantage of his abilities.
31:05 Dredge’s addons are awesome. Malthinker’s Skull, Haddie’s Calendar, Field Recorder, Boat Keys, and Ottomarian Writing are all great and improve every aspect of his kit. Being able to pick and choose between these main five to make a variety of different builds with different strengths makes Dredge wildly unpredictable with how you should counter him.
Ottomarian and Boat Keys make your teleports and, by proxy, remnant better outside of Nightfall, and allow you to use locker teleports as a legitimate chase strategy out of nightfall. Without them, it’s much riskier to use your power, both remnant and TP.
Malthinker’s and Recorder allow you to get in Nightfall fast, as well as encourage keeping survivors injured, which further improves your slowdown by making survivors prioritize healing, and your ability to get downs.
Haddie’s Calendar helps counter your one counter of locking lockers. This pairs great with Boat Keys and even the Sacrificial Knife to trap survivors.
There’s a couple others like the one that increases Nightfall charges when teleporting which is also quite good, just has a bit less synergy than those I’ve mentioned so far.
Another Honorable Mention is the Broken Doll which extends Nightfall. All around great, though you will want to bring it with Malthinker’s or Recorder.
Overall, Dredge’s addons are pretty great. Nothing as revolutionary and OP as Nurse or blight, but definitely above average.
His addons remind me of Artist's addons, actually. Nothing broken, as you said, like Blight's, Spirit's, or Nurse's; but a ton of addons that just make the killer better and more fun to play. I think BHVR has been making killers with this sort of addon variety more often recently, and honestly, I think it's way more healthy than their old design philosophy.
I really do think that the dredge was placed lower than he actually is on this list. He takes a lot of time to understand properly and even without addons he exerts so much control over the map. It also takes understanding from both points of view as to how lockers are chosen. It's in a group rather than individual and the game will send you to a locked locker before an unlocked one. It will also pick the locker someone is hiding in over the empty one. Survivors who lock everything early make the late game (dredge's strongest) harder for them as locks are destroyed with a simple m1 attack.
I do personally think sacrificial knife is really not worth being an iridescent addon to take as you should be pressuring survivors into loops with vaults. Usually you use remnant to counter the loop or tp to the next tile over to pressure them into a corner on your own.
@@coagulatedwater937 I agree. It sucks that Sacrificial should probably apply outside of nightfall and block them for longer or a farther range for it to be iri. Right now, it feels like a green add on in limbo of being bad but the one time it’s occasionally useful, it’s great.
As a Freddy main (yes, they exist), i strongly disagree with the cannibal being lower than mah boi, sure Freddy can teleport, make chases last shorter, and has the dreamworld, but Bubba's instadown is way stronger than all of this, and the tantrum is actually not that hard to avoid.
I'm also a Freddy main! What prestige do you have him at? I have him at 13 almost 14.
@@ethancoolbro18gamer86 Only 3, i started playing not so long ago, and i'm trying to prestige others to 3 rn.
Yall are talking about levels and my brain just sees "3" and "Freddy" in the same sentence like 😕
@borysowicz5096 I prestiged 3 Freddy 3 years ago on ps4 (I loved how he worked before), on Xbox I barley touch him now. It saddens me how much potential Freddy can have
Bro thank u so much, Bubba is easily the most underrated killer in the game IMO his ability to insta down people with little to no slow down, with the fact that he moves quicker in the ability than his normal speed makes the chainsaw almost un dodgeable unless you have an exhaustion perk timed perfectly or a Vault, and even with the Vault is the bubba is half decent then they can just stop revving the chainsaw and go around. Plus he just breaks strait threw pallets. - If anyone has tips on how to avoid his chainsaw then I'm all ears.
It's always exciting to see trapper not being the bottom of the list
the con with demo is you can't get him in game anymore, rip.
Video idea: Ranking killers by scariest lore.
If Clown isn’t top tier we riot
ok but that transition at 10:10 was smooth af
This list will not stop me from making The Knight
A neat buff for Clown could be that the clouds linger longer or maybe even just replace one of his bad addons with something that increases the duration the clouds last for. It could open up some new strategies.
Before they changed Clown's add-ons, he used to have add-ons that increased gas duration. I wish they kept it.
they should make his gas more costly but doesn't let survivors drop pallets, and his yellow bottles not affect survivors
Slightly disagree with knight being below Onyro but respect it anyway! Love the reasoning you give whenever you do these, it’s very concise
Knight dont have a mobility and I think he is weak than Onryo.. As a Onryo-main I can say she is better than Trapper.. she is super-mobility and with ultrarare tape she can teleports many times.. and then sometimes survivors need to turn off tv, and he spends time on it. Also sometimes her flickering can confuse survivors.. and with her addon (to increase flickering) she can be slightly decent on palletlooping... but she needs a full rework.
@@pavlikgameryt onryo is completely garbage unless she's playing iri condemned build
@@bigbrainonimain9226 You don't really need a condemn focused build to use her power efficiently. She's really tough to master and not very good, but i wouldn't say she's garbage.
@@yuzin9028 she's very easy to play as her power has very little to learn and has no mechanical demands. She's terrible without the iri addon because without it she's a pseudo stealth killer with no antiloop and a mobility power on a 2 minute cooldown
@@bigbrainonimain9226 Watch Onepumpwillie play her, he really expands on the ways you can play Sadako. Predicting what the survivors are doing, being alert to the survivors that have tapes, where they got the tapes, which tvs they have to put the tapes, you can get a condemn kill almost every match without a build focused on that, which often leads to a win
24:31 'the tier 2 let's you break pallets and walls'
Shows footage of him breaking a pallet normally in tier 2
If there's anything I've commonly noticed vs a Nemesis, they don't know and/or underestimate the reach of tier 2 and more importantly tier 3 Tentacle Strike.
I'd argue that sadako and the knight aren't weak killers, sadako is easily top 15 if you just decide to go with a condemning playstyle rather than a normal hit and run style, as for the knight he needs days of practice and learning the AIs. While he is rather inconsistent, he isn't bottom 5 killers, bottom 10 at minimum. Condemn onryo is easily top 20 if not top 15
I love the Knight, but bhvr NEEDS to give him a buff. He has plenty of potential
he already has a lot of potential if you learn to us the guardes correctly. I recomment Choy´s Guide on how to play the knight.
True
Buffing him isnt enough
A killer's main ability relying on IA is just the worst idea ever made
They need to completely change his power with maybe adding the guards as a second little power, like nemesis zombies
I main Knight and he is in no way the second weakest killer in the game. People place him so low because they’re not using his power right. This is also outside of camping, tunneling , and holding 3 gens hostage for 30 minutes. Although he can do everything I listed well, there’s much more to his kit than that.
The guards being able to kick generators and pallets is actually his strongest tool. Same with pallets. Survivors underestimate how quick the Carnifex can break a pallet or gen mid-chase.
And while the other guards damage things slower, while damaging a generator, it cannot be worked on. So if you can catch a gen at 99% with a guard, you’re able to hold it for much longer thanks to the distance from which you can send a guard.
Knight and twins are awesome to play (when bugs don't hamstring you again) the amount of tricks and maneuvers your allowed to play Is truly one of a kind
Twins are fun. Nasty bug with her right now tho. Switching from victor to Charlotte causes you to have stare at the ground with Charlotte unable to move camera or attack. Snuffing out a totem or switching to victor csuses you to have to dc. Can’t do anything. Unable to do actions. (Console PlayStation)
See and That right there is why i think they are horribly underated bc most players want easy moves, not movesets that excel when players think outside the box (most don't which is why theres alot of nurse mains lol)
10:11 14:08 Damn, what is it with DBD videos and having the best transitions? That was smooth
You might actually be the best Dbd youtuber. It didn't click to me how much gameplay you need to record to get footage for all the killers.
I think I'd have to disagree with you say the strongest killer is the Nurse. I think it's the Oni. Though the Nurse can teleport which is a powerful ability but it's easier to know where the Nurse is going to teleport compared where the Oni is going to go. Once Oni's ability is activated he goes into the 2nd longest Sprint after Billy's infinite sprint and Oni doesn't get stunned after he stops sprinting and he doesn't sprint just forward. He goes anywhere you want him to go for about a good minute and he has an attack that's a one hit down and he doesn't get stunned when he runs into obstacles. Therefore making Oni's power much stronger than the Nurse's power mainly do to the Nurse getting stunned after each teleport. Not saying she's not strong but I just don't believe she's the strongest killer. I'd have to say the Oni is the strongest killer
it’s super easy to know where the oni goes you can visibly see which way he’s gonna turn before he does it, and he’s also hindered by a good window, nurse isn’t at all weakened or affected by anything survivors can do
@@nexryyy I'm not getting into this with you due to how old my comment and because I was stating my views. Whether you agree with me or not I don't care. Your views are your views and my views are mine and nobody is going to change my views just because they have different views. If you have different views then cool. There are so many different killers on DBD now that it all depends on the person and who they think is the strongest. You obviously believe that there's a different killer who is the strongest. Okay. That's your opinion. Leave me to mine.
Knight has one of the best ways to protect and pressure a generator(s). If you play with Call of Brine and you leave jailer to lurk there.. it will regress a lot until jailer despawns! And survivors can either take the hit from follower, stop regression early but this will also alert the knight. Especially in the end when there are 1 gen left to do aka 3 gens standing, you can lock the gens so nicely. Knight also has unique way of having 100% chance of hitting someone at certain locations because of his follower. Impossible to mind game without dead hard or something else that gives invulnerability momentarily.
I understand Knight is really new but you are imo severely underestimating him. Looking forward to see if he stays as 2nd bottom on your list.
👀🤌 even as a biased typical survivor main, I always love listening to your dialogue about killers and all your videos about them, it helps me re-evaluate my own opinions on certain killers that have only ever been influenced by how many times I've been tunneled/camped by them and nothing else lmfao
so hearing what you (+ others) think about them in terms of weaknesses/strengths and just your opinions on all things dbd are always nice to listen to, especially at work. appreciate all the content you've put out so far and looking forward to watching more next year as well 😌💕
Pig is the easiest killer to use in my opinion. most survivors waste their time worrying about the bear traps and that gives you more time to hook the rest while they aren’t on gens
Sadako's ability is pretty much Wraiths cloaking power with Hag's trap mechanic put together on one killer, it's a cool idea but it could be smoother, her power just feels really janky tbh
Sadako main here, u just gotta learn how to use her power in the way you feel comfortable and it will stop feeling janky, (she kinda is a Wraith Freddy mix ye)
Sadako is hella fun, usually play similar to Wraith/Trapper with the map traversal of Freddy/Dredge. Always fun to get a good demanifest fakeout or counter loop on a teleport or herding the chase survivor towards tv's to build condemned.
@@s1n1stersixsgaming8 nah fr bro, i main her and she is so much fun even though it is a tough fight for the win sometimes
@@TTV.Murlocs_Ruler freddy is better then sadako lol
@@bambusleitung7241 he isnt tho😂
Plague with Iri seal and amulet (+20s) is S tier killer. Such a disgusting combo. I've been maining Plague over 2 years and I used this combo so rare. Disgusting!
Could you do a "survivor's teachable perk" tier list video like the killers?
I think the reason you don’t think knight is good is because a lot of people play him wrong, the moment you accept your gaurds won’t get any hits on their own, is the moment you start to do well with him, your gaurds should be used in 2 ways, 1 is to put pressure on survivors, make them run away from an area, and 2 is to get hits quickly, the gaurd can be used to show you where the survivor is, you want to cut off the survivor and hit them yourself, then let them run off, if you can keep the enemy team injured at most times then that becomes quick downs with little counterplay, giving a powerful snowball effect
Survivor main here, I can outrun the guards 9/10 times without Sprint Burst
@@jayredharpstudios9672 as you should, the gaurds job is not to catch, it’s to coral, to add pressure, and to give the knight a free, fast hit
Strongly disagree about the Knight. He might be lowish if abiding by the Survivors Rules for Killers, but that aside, I've seen the Knight lockdown gens indefinitely, tag team camp hooks through entire hook states and worst.
Something I think would make the knight a little more viable is if his patrol stayed around until either A. It engages a survivor, or B. You summon the next guard. That was kind of how I thought it worked based off of the ability description in the store.
As a trapper main, I’m glad he’s not at the bottom😭
Isn't he though? Ya know... Cause the basement is always at the bottom? Ha. 😅
Good one😂, but not if your not using basement trapper😏
You came to rescue me as I was dying of boredom, thank you hero!
Astonishing data, using it as always Azhy 😎
maybe instead of clown's bottles slowing down the survivors and blurring survivors vision maybe it could slow them down and just completely blind them? I feel like that would make him stronger. And maybe he could have an amount of pink bottles and separately have an amount of yellow bottles rather than them having the same storage space.
Honestly I can do well with all the killers but my main has always been Ghostface and my other common ones are pyramid head, cenobite, and trickster because they are very fun. Typically though if I want a good game I'll rock Ghostface simply because I am very efficient with him
In my opinion, the knight strenght os not chasing survivors, but to mantain control of an area like trapper or hag without the need to set up. Your main focus with the guards is to shut down loops or force survivers our of gens not to get hits. I reccomend Choys guide for more info.
No way this is a serious tier list
It is
As a Deathslinger main, I agree with placment, but think he should be higher since addons like iridescent coin completely shut down loops. Slinger is also great because he can shoot through tiny holes, so people were completely caught off guard when I shot them through these.
I was wondering if you would do a tier list, or honestly just a list, of "meta" builds for both survivors and killers. I know this would probably take lots of research, but it would be great to go back into the history of DBD and remember the olden days of Machine Gun Meyers or Ruin Guard
Honestly I rarely use knights power like that. I prefer to use it as a loop shutdown that's better then clowns or as a info tool/scare tactic by using it to check on gens from afar. Saves me time from having to walk all the way to each gen to check them, and if the guard Does catch a survivor I can choose to commit to a chase or harass other survivors off a gen or go kick the one they were initially on.
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The Knight isn't that weak tbh. From what I've experienced, he does really well with crowd control believe it or not. I use the Jailer to camp the hooked Survivor while I'm looking for other Survivors. The other two guards, and at times Jailer, were mainly summoned for immediate blocking of pallets and vaults to flush the Survivor out. Hell I even placed guards on top of downed survivors to protect myself from being blocked and blinded.
If everything is done right with good perks, addons, and strategy, Knight can be quite powerful in the right situations.
People underestimate Knight so much. I've been playing him a ton recently and I think he's at the very least low A-tier. Definitely top 10, imo. His zoning potential is insane. I've won (3k or 4k) something in the ballpark of 85-90 of the roughly 100 games I've played with him. Honestly, the people who think he's bad just straight up don't understand what his strengths are and how to avoid his weaknesses. And definitely don't know how to use his power strategically and properly. Let alone his addons, which are BUSTED.
All the Knights I went against couldn't get a single kill, sure a hook on a survivor, but that was it, just a hook.
@@jayredharpstudios9672 because they don't understand what makes him good and how to compensate for his weaknesses, like I said in the original comment
@@reductosmash2483 the Knight, for me, even as someone who tried him out, is just a lousy killer; survivors can consistently outrun his guards, and all the Knight would do is stand where the gens are and keep on spawning guards, sometimes forcing a survivor off of gen by themselves and compared to the killer released before him, Wesker, he is a letdown and disappointment.
@@jayredharpstudios9672 well I get consistent 3 and 4ks with him because I actually understand how he's supposed to be played. I play a very aggressive but nuanced zoning game with him and I've even 4ked an all P100 team with 4 gens left and the team ended up being a competitive tournament team. After my initial few games of learning him, I haven't had a single team of survivors finish all gens. All escapes have been through hatch. I guess you just have to have the strategic mind for him
@@reductosmash2483 That is great that you were able to 4ked a competitive tournament team and had all of your escapes through hatch
30. Pig
29. Nightmare
28. Legion
27. Clown
26. Onryu
25. Shape
24. Cannibal
23. Knight
22. Hillbilly
21. Twins
20. Ghostface
19. Trapper
18. Nemesis
17. Dredge
16. Mastermind
15. Demogorgon
14. Huntress
13. Cenobite
12. Trickster
11. Wraith
10. Artist
9. Plague
8. Hag
7. Deathslinger
6. Doctor
5. Executioner
4. Blight
3. Oni
2. Nurse
1. Spirit
Bunch of BS. Spirit never was, nor is, nor ever will be the strongest killer. Number one is forever Nurse. And all you noobs don't even have the slightest taste of what she was like when she came out. They nerfed her by a factor of 10 and she is still far ahead in her own S tier.
For all the weak killers I was like nah they should be higher. But then I realized it is cuz there are no weak killers cuz dbd is so heavily killer sided rn.
Onryo should be way higher on this list imo, she's incredibly underrated. Firstly I think she has a lot more power in a chase than what people say she does, using the iridiecsent tape it's easy to keep most TVs turned on at once, so if you play it smart you can wait until a survivor leaves a loop and project in front of them catching them off guard, this is especially powerful if you are using bloody finger nails since you can catch up super easily.
She also has insane map control abilities, especially with the iri tape, you're able to teleport next to every single generator super quickly. Combine this with call of brine and it works great. Teleport to a generator, hit the survivor and damage the gen, teleport away. Wait for call of brine to alert then teleport back and down the survivor, assuming they haven't healed. On multiple occasions I've been able to have all 4 survivors dead before any or only one gen is done.
That's not to mention her condemn strat. by using the ring drawing which spreads condemned through healing actions you can avoid hooking survivors until the very end game. If you find a survivor and hit them one, or preferably twice and down them, they're going to have to be healed by someone which spreads condemned to them. Not needing to hook survivors in this time means you can spend more time focusing on other survivors or damaging gens. It'll be a slow game but once you get down to the last gen, with a bit of strategy for a good 3 gen it's nearly impossible for survivors to repair the last gen since you're constantly forcing them to stop to heal each other to retrieve a tape to remove condemned. I've gone from being at 1 gen left without a single hooked survivor to ending the game with the gates closed and 4/4 kills.
I probably didn't do the best job of explaining it here but if you watch One pump willie you'll see how good she can be if played right.
I used CoB Discordance overcharge and Frankie’s as a flex or brutal strength. I see people use SB but it’s a waste tbh
Interesting, I use a Condemn-focused build for Sadako, and I use her purple addon that makes it, so every survivor starts with a tape and then an addon so any survivors that witness the manifestation will scream, and it works out pretty decent for me, most of the time anyways.
@@jayredharpstudios9672 I use that paired with the one that gives you the heal state condem for passive build. My prob with the purple add on is once they put the tape away tho the add on is kinda useless. Try the Iri tape with the bloody fingernail it’s sooo aggressive Frfr. You move Soo fast out of the tv it’s almost a guarantee hit to reset the tvs.
We not gonna talk about the 9:00 Rebecca’s name
Wesker much better then be 8th
Sadako is at least top 15 for me, so underrated killer its just not normal
Are u joking right
@presl7508 i absolutely agree
Onryo condemn is top5 tbh . People STILL just dobt know how good it is. Just complex to think about what are survivors doing
This is a good list and gives you a good idea on which are better than worse than others based on certain factors. But one factor left out is fun! It’s not always about winning or killing everyone! Some killers are just fun to play for what they do or the terror they provide so remember to play who you have the most fun with!
What makes knight so weak is many factors. The stupid green orb when making a path, guard green circle, and the fact that he can’t place guards down in many, many spots. He’s a safe space killer for survivors, if they removed all the green shit he would be a threat.
you my friend are lucky enough to have never 3 genned yourself against knight if you think he's weak
That feeling when your main two killers are 30 and 29 lol
It's okay, mine was at 26. 😅
9:56 That shadow... Looks so cartoony...
Hold on, are we not gonna talk about that fresh transition during bubba’s pallet destroy?!
This is a very helpful video that tells us the killier we should by first
Well this is a long video lol. Right off the bat I saw knight on #29. I think he is a lot more powerful than that, but as you said the AI can just glitch out and get stuck in a corner.
I would argue he is only slightly more powerful. His power even if working perfectly is based solely on map RNG. This means the Knight is 90% fucked.
@@theslavicrat3784 i will now just state one simple little thing, your knights are never getting hits, they are a zoning tool, knights strength is in anti loop, zoning, and lategame, as during the endgame his genlocks when done right, are unbreakable without repressed alliance
I noticed he didn’t pick the “weak” killers per se but rather he is ranking them based on how difficult they are to master.
A really skilled Clown can wreak havoc on teams but it’s really difficult to become that good so it’s not a weak Killer just a hard to master Killer.
I hope this video gets an Azhymobillion likes
On the huntress I find it is so rewarding to bait out survivors pallets then while the animation is ending throw your weapon at them and its a free hit
A 47 minute video? Dang! I only have 7 minutes to spare for this...
Then skip through it 😂 common sense
Knight should be higher imo.
When I play him against pretty good survivors in Red Ranks (if ranks even matter anymore) and I barely do less than 3 kills because of some shenanigans like survivors being spotted through walls or the guards being able to float towards a survivor if they are a floor higher, which in many cases can seem dodgy of how the guards bug out, having their model bounce up and down.
Edit: I forgot to mention how extremely powerful and boring Knight is when survivors manage to 3 gen themselves. If they manage to do 3 gen, it's already game over, but in a very slow and boring way. You can send guards towards the gens 24/7 and never survivors are not able to even do 1% on a gen.
Red rank is easily farmed now, so they don't matter. Your hidden mmr does.
I haven't played the knight, but from watching others play him I'm surprised he wasn't put in average, and was placed in weak.
Amazing video! Explained every killer perfectly. Very educational and well said, i agree with your list. 🔥🔥
Honestly i love your rank videos so much!
Leatherface can be easily top 10.
10:10 we ain’t gonna ignore the best transition ever
shitker would be like high B tier at best if he worked properly but considering its been months and he can still grab you around corners, through wall, windows, and pallets and still has infection that grows while in chase hes A I still dont quite get why he has the built in slowdown like I feel like at that point they should just go all out on stupid base kit buffs and to give Spirit a cleansing ritual you should have to do in order to not be instadown but her post phase hits and Blight a derumfication to not go down in 1 shot to lethal rushes cuz they have strong chase power but not free slowdown cuz they dont need it and neither does shitker but he still has it it, its such bad design
I keep telling my friends about your channel, you deserve more subscribers and more love! These videos are 101% entertaining and interesting!
Won my last 5 matches as Knight going for constant 2v1's in and around dead zones. He's not as bad as people make out tbh. 3 gen works well but he isn't reliant on it
Pleace make ranking of survivors ranked by his teachable perks
I feel like there’s a difference between strength of a killer and what playstyle a killer promotes.
For example, Bubba is pretty weak but if you facecamp, he’s the best killer in the game
I already see knight mains crying in comments, trying to convince us, that hes actually a good Killer
he's not good, but his power is entirely broken in the case of genlocks. which if you don't know, he can casually hold with no effort for more than an hour.
Honestly when I first started DBD before they gave clown yellow bottles and managed to get quite a few 4Ks and I remember getting four of four mori's once
The mori was on Hawkins (r.i.p Hawkins btw)
A tier list based simply on how much I like them overall: 33) Skull Merchant, 32) Legion, 31) Clown, 30) Pig, 29) Huntress, 28) Nightmare, 27) Singularity 26) Twins, 25) Trickster, 24) Cannibal, 23) Mastermind, 22) Deathslinger, 21) Hillbilly, 20) Wraith, 19) Cenobite, 18) Onryo, 17) Knight, 16) Nurse, 15) Doctor, 14) Oni, 13) Plague, 12) Shape, 11) Trapper, 10) Xenomorph, 9) Ghost Face, 8) Nemesis, 7) Spirit, 6) Blight, 5) Executioner, 4) Hag, 3) Artist, 2) Demogorgon, 1) Dredge
Some killers I love to play, some I hate to play against, but this list overall is just based on how cool they are despite how easy/hard they are to play or face.
The demogorgon terrifies me 😂
All killers are good if the person knows to how to use them but since not everyone is good at using other kills power they call them “bad” or “worst killer”
I feel like all killers have the potencial to be the best, but you have to know how to play.
My favorite knight is the one that hooks you, has his little minion run around in front of you, while the knight is running in circles behind you
best part about the Lethal Pursuier joke was the cut after it...I can just imagine Azhy laughing his ass off XD
I played this game maybe like 3 times a few years ago. It’s not on my soon to play list and yet here I am Checking the killers 😂
Maybe a video on Killers ranked based on how nice / enjoyable they are to face in-game? Like the survivor one you did where you ranked how good of a teammate they are, and their toxicity
Having binged a lot of his videos, and looking through comments , Ghostface seems to be one of the most popular killers to face, Ghostface's are apparently very chill, and sometimes play around with survivors, but aren't just going to throw a match, so Ghostface would probably be ranked very high on that list.
@@themightycongueror8383 I have only gotten one chill Ghostface and four chill Weskers out of six, so they are by far the most chill for killers. Ghostfaces that I run across always use the same build and always try hards
The knight being the lowest is the craziest thing ive ever heard, hes the only killer who can double hit you into an insta down (his "pet" based guards like nemesis don't cause a moment of relief like with nemesis where they can't double hit you) with his people who will now always catch up if someone doesnt grab the banner... he has insane 3 gen almost worse then skull merchant and has the BIGGEST WIDEST swing hitbox ive ever seen, probably worse then spirits, he needs a nerf to the cooldown of his guards and reduce there radiuses by half
I disagree with your opinion about the knight. He is one of the most fun and most effective killers imo. HEAVILY underused and overlooked.
I can't bring myself to agree, but lists like this are always going to be extremely personal and subjective.
Knight is definetly not on Spot 29. If he works how he's supposed to be he's pretty strong in the right setup.
Even if you just compare the killers on base without add ons/perks, he is definetly not behind Killers like Trickster or Trapper(which is btw my weakest Killer. You have literally no power against good survivors who know how to counter him. One of them will run behind you the whole time and disarm everything you place).
Also Onryo on 28? Onryo is super annoying and strong if played right.
Her short height and the fact that she remains invisible a split second after uncloacking helps often even on strong loops.
i dont think sadako needs anti-heal, she just needs info gathering like bbq or her own scourge hook perk and she can snowball super hard
hook>teleport>hit>chase>hook>repeat
Im a newish player but ive consistently been getting 2 blips on rank progress and 3/4 ks without add ons
also her demanifest is perfect for mind games, brown add ons help but arnt necessary
Sadako is really good at lower and mid levels, but can suffer when you run into players that are good in chase. She actually has one of the best kill-rates in the game by percentage, because she's great against the average group of survivors. It's just when you run into a good team of survivors that can loop you for a long period, you'll likely find it extremely difficult to get a down.
as a freddy main, i can make use outta the dream pallets ALL the time. Unless its a super well coordinated SWF calling out dream pallets, they fall for it. Or they pre drop them but then i get notification where they are. And while in chase, pre dropping also wastes a little bit of time. The snares are just very inconsistent at times. So i always play with pallets.
I'm also a Freddy main! What prestige do you have him at? I have him at 13 almost 14.
@@ethancoolbro18gamer86 i play since april last year and i lvl up almost all killers so my prestiges are very consistent between all the various killers. I believe he is at prestige 5 or 6 right now. While all the others are also on at least prestige 3. I know for certain legion and clown are on p4 because i main them before i did main freddy.
So when im speaking of maining freddy doesnt neccessarly mean i only play him, i switch trough killers alot. But hes one of those i can play best with and the one most fun to me ^^ thats why i call him my main killer.
Very great video I have yet to use some killers but for the most part I agree with your list. I would love to see a list where you rate The wintery cosmetics for the killers. Keep up the great work and happy holidays 🎄😁