Apple Responds to Ending Apple Vision Pro

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  • @davcar23
    @davcar23 Місяць тому +3484

    Apparently this channel is where I get my tech news now.

    • @Raikage93
      @Raikage93 Місяць тому +20

      Dito😂

    • @InvasionAnimation
      @InvasionAnimation Місяць тому +14

      Same!

    • @PanchoVilla-fe8pt
      @PanchoVilla-fe8pt Місяць тому +8

      Welcome 🤗 aboard lol 😂

    • @neillthompson2
      @neillthompson2 Місяць тому +26

      I'm not even interested in Tech anymore, haven't been for years but I still come here cause it's too good not too.

    • @adamreynolds3863
      @adamreynolds3863 Місяць тому +4

      hahaha YEP more trust worthy than anyone else

  • @Feefa99
    @Feefa99 Місяць тому +2044

    It is like Apple lost the Vision

    • @MP-vc4nu
      @MP-vc4nu Місяць тому +22

      The headset is turning people’s face into Mark Zuckerberg, which isn’t Apple.

    • @Architectofawesome
      @Architectofawesome Місяць тому +3

      Pro

    • @rocketmunkey1
      @rocketmunkey1 Місяць тому +14

      Steve Jobs would never have released a VR headset, he would have tried it and realised very quickly this wasn't a product he or anyone else would use past the novelty period of 2 weeks, owing to its numerous insurmountable flaws, ie being heavy, sweaty, face muffles which are a faff to take on and off, which downgrades reality from infinite K to 4K, and does literally nothing better than a TV laptop and a smart phone cant already do, much more conveniently, comfortably and cheaply.
      With the exception of its ARM chips Apple is purely a high price fashion brand these days with Jobs Ives and Forstall no longer there.

    • @Feefa99
      @Feefa99 Місяць тому +2

      @@rocketmunkey1 Who knows, but even he released some really unsuccessful products, but still nice speculation.

    • @rocketmunkey1
      @rocketmunkey1 Місяць тому +2

      @@Feefa99 His unsuccessful products were unlike VR at least vaguely practical.

  • @boejiden8859
    @boejiden8859 Місяць тому +1611

    Did you try turning the price off then back on again?

    • @Slapbattler666
      @Slapbattler666 Місяць тому +45

      That sounds like it would unironically work

    • @suipsycko
      @suipsycko Місяць тому +12

      🙏 I am praying people get the reference - greetings from Reynholm Industries basement

    • @svcross-do
      @svcross-do Місяць тому +7

      Great joke sir

    • @mamradcaj
      @mamradcaj Місяць тому +4

      😆 made my day

    • @iDemandSky
      @iDemandSky Місяць тому

      This sounds like Benjamin on BTD6

  • @ShaferHart
    @ShaferHart Місяць тому +518

    "And because our leader has no vision--he had to build one!" damn 😂😂

    • @godswillak
      @godswillak Місяць тому +29

      Like, "even the 12 cameras couldn't solve Tim's short-sightedness"
      Jeez, that was harsh! 😂😂

    • @kirby21-xz4rx
      @kirby21-xz4rx Місяць тому +10

      That killed me 😂

    • @mothwaltz4163
      @mothwaltz4163 Місяць тому +4

      😂 Sam just roasted Tim and then poured hot sauce on top, and then cooked him for 2 more hours until crispy.

    • @Superz3ro
      @Superz3ro Місяць тому +1

      Kind of a weird experience watching a Star Wars movie while seemingly sitting on the MOON, with a pair of AirPods PRO, you can literally tune out the real world…
      Now imagine what else you can do… We don’t, because we are doing it…
      🤔

  • @hasibulhasan1381
    @hasibulhasan1381 Місяць тому +480

    Color change is the only innovation Apple does now.

    • @fix0the0spade
      @fix0the0spade Місяць тому +33

      Don't forget soldering things together that should not be soldered.

    • @Arsenic71
      @Arsenic71 Місяць тому +7

      Not if you're using the Apple Card 😂

    • @lexdavies3656
      @lexdavies3656 Місяць тому +7

      Or add an extra button or tech thats been used on android for a decade now

    • @jethromartino
      @jethromartino Місяць тому +6

      from white to titanium white

    • @Pwnopolis
      @Pwnopolis Місяць тому +3

      Well considering most of apples og innovations came from microsoft its not surprising they dont manage to anymore.

  • @danielkemmet2594
    @danielkemmet2594 Місяць тому +758

    Imagine being one of the people left holding the bag on a what is now a 3500$ sleep mask

    • @MP-vc4nu
      @MP-vc4nu Місяць тому +68

      3’999
      Apple Sleep Pro

    • @TheRealTommyR
      @TheRealTommyR Місяць тому +4

      Ikr?

    • @petef15
      @petef15 Місяць тому +82

      The worst part is you can't even use the thing as a PCVR headset. Utterly useless.

    • @SupraSav
      @SupraSav Місяць тому +52

      @@petef15 Oh wow I didn't know that. THAT is insanity. Classic apple, burning their customer base..

    • @RustOnWheels
      @RustOnWheels Місяць тому +41

      @@SupraSav don’t worry, only influencers bought one… from their sponsor money.

  • @chrisgg80
    @chrisgg80 Місяць тому +126

    not to mention 99% of people who purchase VR headsets are gamers yet the apple vision pro has no controller... or games. Anyone actually wanting to experience VR is just going to spend a fraction of the price on a quest.

    • @JimmyNuisance
      @JimmyNuisance Місяць тому +20

      Absolutely true. As a huge VR fanatic who spends a lot of time in the VR community, the AVP became a laughing stock the second we learned it didn't have controllers. 3500 bucks was bad enough, but no controllers meant that 98% of VR apps couldn't be ported, so what the hell use was it? What dev is going to make a game specifically for a headset that will sell a fraction of what even the Oculus Go sold back in like 2018?
      Apple was just being dumb from day one with this thing. I don't think they understand the point of VR to be honest. VR is the best place to play games, by far. It is NOT the best place to do office work, and that will remain true until these headsets weigh about 150 grams. For gaming, comfort doesn't matter that much. For office work? Pff, it's literally all that matters. Bad ergonomics means you're going to screw up your body pretty quick. This is a shortcut to a quasimodo-style posture.

    • @marleylongstreet
      @marleylongstreet Місяць тому +1

      Because the Vision Pro is AR spatial computer not really VR

    • @piedra7040
      @piedra7040 Місяць тому

      You mean 50% are gamers and the other 50% are pron enjoyers

    • @carlosdasilva2409
      @carlosdasilva2409 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@JimmyNuisanceOn top of that. Who on Earth wants "immersion" writing a report, filling out a budget sheet or some other form of accounting sheet, programming, or making slides? I guess the VR COULD simulate you're working from some luxury home in Ibiza but honestly? That'd be even sadder.

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 Місяць тому +1

      true. but hey.. apple doesn't care. they never did.

  • @Break.
    @Break. Місяць тому +59

    0:48 this clip is actually so funny, you can hear some people letting out a big "oooooooooh" and some people just laughing at it lol

  • @ManMpha
    @ManMpha Місяць тому +816

    Who needs MKBHD when there's Sam?

    • @xandercruz900
      @xandercruz900 Місяць тому +125

      When you need an Uber driver that can get through town fast?

    • @kapilsethia9284
      @kapilsethia9284 Місяць тому +12

      ​@@xandercruz900😂😂

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron Місяць тому +8

      @@xandercruz900 my need for Speed is greater than anything else

    • @Ethan_Fel
      @Ethan_Fel Місяць тому +8

      first part was enough

    • @AzureRT456
      @AzureRT456 Місяць тому +1

      FOR REAL LOL

  • @sigh-cosis
    @sigh-cosis Місяць тому +511

    Everyone but Apple saw this coming

    • @demonicsquid7217
      @demonicsquid7217 Місяць тому +14

      I didn't because I had my goggles on.

    • @theronwolf3296
      @theronwolf3296 Місяць тому +15

      Had to be one of the dumbest ideas ever.
      Even the fanbois were not impressed.

    • @RD-io6sm
      @RD-io6sm Місяць тому +12

      I actually didn't because I've always believed that apple consumers paid ridiculous prices for their products.
      I'll never forget the $700 desktop wheels. Those would be close to $900 today...

    • @whengrapespop5728
      @whengrapespop5728 Місяць тому +7

      @@theronwolf3296They just stopped production of this particular model. The next model is still coming out. Totally misleading video.

    • @Flaggyt
      @Flaggyt Місяць тому

      Yeah apple products are all about appearance, all show and no go.
      And you look like a moron with these things on so they lost 99% of their clients from the start. The rest are influencers about as reliable as apple...

  • @myp0h
    @myp0h Місяць тому +138

    2:26 There's one thing apple will never give its customers, and thats a discount! lol 🤣🤣

    • @Superz3ro
      @Superz3ro Місяць тому +3

      Now that was the funniest line in the whole video…
      Felt that one especially in the wallet…
      😳

    • @gamble777888
      @gamble777888 Місяць тому +2

      It's amazingly true. They'd rather eat 100% sunk cost on those units than actually ever do anything that is even remotely consumer friendly.

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 Місяць тому

      yep tho they will force you to get an apple card on black Friday XD what a joke.

  • @SheepleDestroyer
    @SheepleDestroyer Місяць тому +154

    Well, that was fast. Like MKBHD in a Lambo through school zone

    • @mityaboy4639
      @mityaboy4639 Місяць тому +5

      And Tim’s vision was also blurred out :)

    • @OkieOtaku
      @OkieOtaku Місяць тому +1

      It wasn't a school zone

    • @kexec.
      @kexec. Місяць тому

      it wasn't school zone though

  • @reza2kn
    @reza2kn Місяць тому +165

    @01:57 "After almost 10 years of Tim-ovation"😂😂

    • @Train313
      @Train313 Місяць тому +7

      I thought it was “After almost tim years of innovation”

    • @WdawgSmith
      @WdawgSmith Місяць тому +1

      I don’t think either of you have it right and it concerns me

  • @DG8RS
    @DG8RS Місяць тому +69

    So Apple had a Vision, and now it no longer has Vision. This is factual in more ways than one.

    • @ViridianFlow
      @ViridianFlow Місяць тому +2

      Apple is in the same boat as Sony PlayStation at this point. They got so comfortable being on top that they started making insane decisions and just hoping the name will carry them a few years while they party before they start making good decisions again, then act all shocked when customers don't like their "Why don't we just do that thing we did 2 years ago again, or cooy someone else but worse and charge more" business model

    • @prathameshozarkar
      @prathameshozarkar Місяць тому

      ​@@ViridianFlowBut Sony is doing good again now unlike apple😂

  • @Alan_Dler
    @Alan_Dler Місяць тому +27

    0:40 "😂😂😂I too have an apple vision pro.png"

    • @BWNAO-d9k
      @BWNAO-d9k Місяць тому +1

      Hey, give it back. D:

    • @vrgirl4454
      @vrgirl4454 Місяць тому

      Dude, I built my own avp app. [NOC NOK], you can watch 3D, panoramic video online, the content is also very rich. Please give it your support.

  • @CZpersi
    @CZpersi Місяць тому +151

    It lacked any "killer feature". Basically an obnoxious and overpriced iPad. Headset for writing e-mails in a flating window? Like seriously? Who was the target audience in the first place? What added value this thing offered that would justify the price?

    • @p.c.n.b.6112
      @p.c.n.b.6112 Місяць тому +31

      clearly you haven't seen the apple math course. 😢

    • @momopirou3107
      @momopirou3107 Місяць тому +14

      dont underestimate how much it costs to put that apple logo on things.
      that's where most of the price comes from on all of their products.

    • @PoisonNuke
      @PoisonNuke Місяць тому +16

      nobody talks about that this headset has currently the best image quality of ALL headsets on the market, on par if not better then the Varjio XR-4. So it doesnt need an killer-app it just needs to be a normal VR-headset like the Quest and thats actually possible.
      Furthermore the VisionPro has the best tracking of all headsets right now, so it excels at all points compared to the competition and if you are a business already using XR, then the price-tag is actuall quite inexpensive (compare it to the $14,000 of the Varjo XR-4).
      But of course it not for the consumer-market, thats where Apple has failed. This headset really shines with industrial usecases. Apple shouldve made it for businesses in the first place. And added controller support. And made it more ergonomic. And no battery-pack. And no 100 different head-straps. And less heavy. And better support for prescription glasses. And support for full VR from the beginning. And support CloudXR natively. ...

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare Місяць тому +8

      ​@@PoisonNukeit costs too much for those features to be worth it, especially during a recession. This is non-essential.

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 Місяць тому +14

      @@PoisonNuke The problem is that you are looking at it compared to headsets that are more capable, in both high and low price points. Comparing it to a $14000 headset that is ALSO more capable in the areas that counts does nothing for it. These are the same arguments people had for the pro display XDR, a product that was at least more successful but still sucked.
      Compared to consumer displays, it was too expensive, compared to professional displays, it was lacking in so many different key criteria that it was worthless, even when compared to displays 7 times the price, displays that seemingly only had small on-paper advantages over it.
      Truly a device without a direction or purpose, to be killed off like the touch bar.

  • @rajK29_
    @rajK29_ Місяць тому +64

    1:17 two vision jokes in a row😂😂 how did my vision miss this 😂😂😂

    • @Aura-l7b
      @Aura-l7b Місяць тому

      should've seen it coming

    • @rajK29_
      @rajK29_ Місяць тому

      @Aura-l7b i think i should get the pro model

    • @Aura-l7b
      @Aura-l7b Місяць тому

      @@rajK29_ it would be a great insight

  • @CharlesBluTheXPicturesInc
    @CharlesBluTheXPicturesInc Місяць тому +140

    Vision Pro Was Released On March 1st 2024
    The Production Lasted 8 Months
    And Got Discontinued On November 1st 2024

    • @KabeeshS
      @KabeeshS Місяць тому +9

      I was expecting this to be even earlier.

    • @TheRealTommyR
      @TheRealTommyR Місяць тому +14

      youtubers will now reflect on this device for years to come in the history part of their tech videos

    • @ignaciofuentes2642
      @ignaciofuentes2642 Місяць тому +10

      Wow. And I thought Mike Tyson ripped me off with that fight. 8 months of production on a $3,500 piece of useless hardware. SMH

    • @ShutTheMuckUp
      @ShutTheMuckUp Місяць тому

      @@ignaciofuentes2642 Jake Paul ripped you off. He's fighting washed up has-beens and non boxers. Put him in the ring with ANYONE in their prime, and he will get destroyed. He's a complete joke. He's fighting 60 year olds for fucks sake...

    • @cjeelde
      @cjeelde Місяць тому +5

      Actually released on Feb 2nd 2024 in USA. I don't understand why they released it. They should have cancelled it like Apple Car.
      Apple spent the same money on Apple Car as USA spent on James Webb telescope. Around 10 billion dollar. 10B sounds like a lot but compare that with their annual net profit at ~100B dollar...

  • @brk922
    @brk922 Місяць тому +34

    1:00 "Despite global economic crisis, Apple decided to have courage $3499/- '😂

  • @Jayden-lr2mm
    @Jayden-lr2mm Місяць тому +81

    It was pretty obvious that the Apple Vision Pro wouldn’t last because of the price and how it’s literally a portable tv on your face

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Місяць тому +2

      Right up with Microsoft ending the Hololens. Seems there's no place for an expensive VR headset.

    • @erichollar5503
      @erichollar5503 Місяць тому +2

      How about a portable toilet I can wear on my a55 all the time? Sounds like a great idea.

    • @williamhaynes7089
      @williamhaynes7089 Місяць тому +1

      @@brodriguez11000 throw in the failed Google glass too

  • @Marc_Fuchs_1985
    @Marc_Fuchs_1985 Місяць тому +90

    This whole thing was basically a concept, sold to fanboys at a price, where low sales would supposedly still drive back in development cost. From what I have seen in the many videos, this whole device is basically a fun tech gimmick - but where the fun wears off after a while, and then there is no productivity left to use it for.

    • @ledocteur7701
      @ledocteur7701 Місяць тому +11

      yeah, unlike the meta quest it doesn't have an existing gaming and apps ecosystem, so it's just using non-VR apps available on any apple devices, they blocked 3D porn on it (which lets be honest, is one of the main use cases of VR headsets at the moment), and the one thing it could be good for, industrial augment reality, it wasn't marketed for.
      It has a resolution barely lower than some of the crazy high-end industrial AR headsets, at a fraction of the price, but instead they marketed it as entertainment, despite having non of the functionalities of gaming VR headsets.
      Releasing secondary features later might be digestible by end users on a phone (the AI camera stuff on the Iphone 16), but main features being unavailable on a 3500$ VR headset ?? Even the most cock-sucking fanboys aren't gonna like that.

    • @OgdenM
      @OgdenM Місяць тому +2

      The annoying thing is that VR and AR could 100% be used for getting actual work done.... but they just focus on the gimmicky aspects of it and expect independent developers to come up with the real useful stuff.
      Meta finally kinda realized this issue and started looking into doing real computing with Quest 2 and 3 but their programs STILL pale in comparison to 3rd party ones.
      I personally dream daily of being able to kick back on a couch with a headset on, a keyboard in my lap and maybe a mouse if the hand tracking isn't good enough and getting real work done but.. nope. I haven't seen a single good implementation yet. Granted, I haven't been able to test myself but I've researched.
      Immersed and Vspatial get the closet to being a good environment though.

    • @ruudygh
      @ruudygh Місяць тому

      @@OgdenM XReal glass

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry Місяць тому +1

      @@OgdenM You mean the one feature of the Vision Pro that most reviewers agree works well?

    • @iraklimgeladze5223
      @iraklimgeladze5223 Місяць тому

      @@ledocteur7701 As Quest 2 user, I can conform that I rarely use it, but when I use It's for porn.
      Still, movies and games are so immersive. But it needs more and better quality of it.
      In movies, I can not focus on image, resolution is low, Fov is small, it's uncomfortable. A lot of trades of.

  • @MrTPF1
    @MrTPF1 Місяць тому +59

    Oh no! I was just getting ready to buy 27 of them for everyone on my Christmas list!

    • @slopedarmor
      @slopedarmor Місяць тому +10

      make it 28 and add me to ur christmas list daddy

    • @MrTPF1
      @MrTPF1 Місяць тому +3

      @@slopedarmor LOL!!!

    • @AzureRT456
      @AzureRT456 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@slopedarmorcan you make that 29

    • @mamradcaj
      @mamradcaj Місяць тому

      😆

    • @snaackytutx7648
      @snaackytutx7648 Місяць тому +4

      @@AzureRT456 29 sounds hard to calculate, let's just do 30 instead

  • @quertie
    @quertie Місяць тому +59

    As somebody who wrote VR applications for Industry (using wired Oculus devices), I'm not surprised. VR is great for interactive games and short-term simulations and is an excellent training platform in complex environments. The fundamental problem with VR is how tiring the device is to your eyes. When I work at my computer, I need to look away from the screens at least once every few minutes, but in goggles, I cannot. The maximum time I could spend in the goggles was about 30 minutes. While I'm sure some people can handle the goggles for hours, we found that the average user could handle about 20-30 minutes. The other problem with them was making the applications perform well in a mobile headset (unconnected) was actually challenging. It was really easy to overload the scenes with graphics that were too complex for mobile. What ultimately killed our projects is that our simulations required human interactions, and the cost to produce realistic movements (not animations) was cost prohibitive.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 Місяць тому +2

      The thing with this is that the eye strain from VR is entirely artificial, the lenses mean you can arbitrarily set the focus distance and for some reason a lot of Oculus devices were set for 1.2m (which is to say, as far as focus is concerned, they acted like a screen only 1.2m from your face)

    • @jtimleck
      @jtimleck Місяць тому

      It’s not canceled. He’s trolling. I just checked EVERYWHERE

    • @Venompapa
      @Venompapa Місяць тому +2

      You guys made out of sugar or something? -_- i spend more than 2-3 hour or sometime more in VR daily basis, no problem. Not even counting 1000 or more players on vrchat doing the same. And not only on vrchat, other vr games too. Just because you are a weakling its does not means everyone is.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 Місяць тому +2

      @@Venompapa There's probably an inverse correlation between "hours spent in VRChat" and "ability to afford a Vision Pro", and I say that as someone who has spent hours in VR on multiple occasions

    • @Venompapa
      @Venompapa Місяць тому

      ​@@bosstowndynamics5488 you telling that to someone who having full body tracking and all the good stuff XD give me a break.

  • @adesoladada
    @adesoladada Місяць тому +40

    TIM:
    T= Time
    I = i (Whatever Apple Product/Service)
    M = Money

  • @WillLN
    @WillLN Місяць тому +34

    Getting apple news from SAM is so much better. Would you please do all news for us Mr. TIME?

    • @vivyrox7202
      @vivyrox7202 Місяць тому +1

      yup agree - can't stand watching the product launches anymore..... all long winded and full of BS drivel

  • @kennydolby1379
    @kennydolby1379 Місяць тому +30

    How am I not surprised... that price was bonkers, especially here in Eastern Europe.

    • @demonicsquid7217
      @demonicsquid7217 Місяць тому +8

      It was bonkers in western, northern, and southern Europe too.

  • @TheFlyingDogFish
    @TheFlyingDogFish Місяць тому +12

    It wasn't the price, it was the uselessness that killed it.

  • @M4cintoshSE
    @M4cintoshSE Місяць тому +70

    3:02 oh no it was a png again 😂

    • @ItimDave
      @ItimDave Місяць тому +2

      Got to admit that one got me too 😂

    • @cjeelde
      @cjeelde Місяць тому

      PNG = poor no graphics? 😂😂

    • @MastaDivinity
      @MastaDivinity Місяць тому +1

      ​@ItimDave same, this guy is really funny 😂

  • @danmar007
    @danmar007 Місяць тому +4

    " If only they put the headset on, they could have seen that coming." 🤣 Good one. Sam does the best sarcasm on UA-cam.

  • @GoodVibez420
    @GoodVibez420 Місяць тому +23

    How does this man not have tour dates for comedy shows 😂

    • @kirby21-xz4rx
      @kirby21-xz4rx Місяць тому +1

      Fr he should do stand up 😂

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt Місяць тому

      Because he’d have eggs…stop… Apple. Vision Pros thrown at him?

    • @jesses1589
      @jesses1589 Місяць тому

      I wonder if it comes from him or a team of writers?

  • @Kridez23
    @Kridez23 Місяць тому +27

    Ripping people off has been part of apple philosophy

  • @trevorsinnott123
    @trevorsinnott123 Місяць тому +33

    In Canada, it started at $5,000. I love Apple stuff, but no, just no.

    • @NiGHTSaturn
      @NiGHTSaturn Місяць тому +3

      I remember when I got my Power Mac for 3000 cdn, worth it for the machine it was. 10 000$+ for the current Mac Pro? Hell naw.

    • @cjeelde
      @cjeelde Місяць тому +2

      USA and Canada got different dollar. USD and CAD. That's why it looks more expensive in Canada. You have to look at the exchange rates :)

    • @GeneralKenobi69420
      @GeneralKenobi69420 Місяць тому +2

      Bro has never heard of exchange rates 💀

    • @311forever
      @311forever Місяць тому +1

      ​@@GeneralKenobi69420 You'll actually get paid less to work the same job in Canada as in the US, and that's why companies outsource those jobs to other countries.
      So not only are they making less, but being charged more on top of that.

    • @matthewjbauer1990
      @matthewjbauer1990 Місяць тому +1

      Look at exchange rates. $1 CAD is about $0.71 USD. That makes $5K CAD roughly $3565.70 USD. The Vision Pro is slightly more expensive in Canada but within margin of price rounding and exchange rates compared to USD.

  • @sidd534
    @sidd534 Місяць тому +32

    Most normal thing that apple doing recently

  • @amoldhamale3202
    @amoldhamale3202 Місяць тому +3

    I love your punches: "Despite having 12 cameras Apple Vision Pro did not cure Tim's shortsightedness" 🤣🤣

  • @DasJev
    @DasJev Місяць тому +25

    They released it without SteamVR support and without controllers, what did they expect? Their HMD didn't support the most basic things every VR HMD supports

    • @ivonakis
      @ivonakis Місяць тому +8

      Yeah, the price was not THE issue. If it could do what other VR headsets could do but better, then you have a viable product.

    • @ledocteur7701
      @ledocteur7701 Місяць тому +10

      @@ivonakis If anything, they nailed it as far as hardware goes, it has graphical fidelity close to crazy high-end industrial AR headsets, at a comparatively reasonable price, but they marketed it for the wrong use cases, and then massively under-delivered functionality wise, making it into an overly expensive 3D IMac.

    • @njdotson
      @njdotson Місяць тому

      ​@@ledocteur7701Yeah when I tried it, it seemed really polished and high quality, (ignore the battery life,) but I wouldn't be able to find a use for it when they don't have the same software that's on a normal headset

    • @LucaColonnello
      @LucaColonnello Місяць тому

      Not a traditional VR headset. No need for steam vr and controllers as a primary focus. It’s made for different use cases. Not everything has to be about gaming…

    • @LucaColonnello
      @LucaColonnello Місяць тому +1

      @@ledocteur7701use cases are rather perfect for it actually. Meta is going in that direction now too, everyone is. The era of HMDs for gaming and 3D visualisers only is ended, we’re entering spatial and bringing all traditional use cases from screens to HMDs, and that’s a good thing for the VR market as it brings daily use cases to headsets which people wouldn’t have cared for unless into VR gaming. I don’t understand how people miss this as a long term strategy, it’s rather silly to ignore it…

  • @hakaiyou4532
    @hakaiyou4532 Місяць тому +43

    The good thing that came out of this: is thet Meta got pushed into adding better features, the some of the vison pro things.

    • @mamradcaj
      @mamradcaj Місяць тому +2

      totally agree

    • @smittyvanjagermanjenson182
      @smittyvanjagermanjenson182 Місяць тому

      Meta got to observe VisionOS, but they've been doing a lot of things better since the beginning

    • @TheAdamie
      @TheAdamie Місяць тому +2

      pass through got soooo much better. When the Apple vision pro came out that was the one notable thing that was much better. With my Quest 3 now pass through is good enough that I can do just about anything with it on. I’ve put it on and watched UA-cam while doing dishes.

    • @JimmyNuisance
      @JimmyNuisance Місяць тому +2

      Absolutely. I wish Apple made VR cool in the eyes of the average joe, but at the very least it did push Meta to make some new stuff. Net benefit for Quest users. Gotta look at the positives I guess.

  • @BlindMansRevenge2002
    @BlindMansRevenge2002 Місяць тому +16

    I can remember watching one of Steve Jobs interviews where in he stated that Apple would never be in the business of shipping junk. Looks like under uncle Tim’s tutelage. Apple is now shipping junk.

    • @anticat867
      @anticat867 Місяць тому

      I don't think the Vision Pro is junk. On the other hand I've never tried it because I'm not going to pay 3k for a device that I most likely will use during the first few weeks and then never again.

    • @Iisakki3000
      @Iisakki3000 Місяць тому

      Yeah I've never been a huge apple fan but with steve it always felt like they were onto something (and they very much were). Tim doesn't even feel like he's taking any part in product development, he's just a ceo.

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 Місяць тому

      8tutelage, Apple (to fix your sentence fragment)

    • @bcj842
      @bcj842 Місяць тому

      @@anticat867 Yeah. It's a luxury item that just isn't marketable to anyone but the die-est of the hard tech reviewer.

  • @paulcaskey
    @paulcaskey Місяць тому +52

    People bought it for 3D pornos, which they blocked. That's like selling VCRs that didn't play dirty movies. Someone will come up with a replacement.

    • @demonicsquid7217
      @demonicsquid7217 Місяць тому +18

      It was all a bit...premature.

    • @Heinz76Harald
      @Heinz76Harald Місяць тому

      imagine they did coop with p**nhub, these would have sold like crazy

    • @joopie46614
      @joopie46614 Місяць тому +19

      Companies need to stop blocking things and actually let consumers do whatever they want with the product they own

    • @rodh1404
      @rodh1404 Місяць тому

      @@joopie46614 Apple hasn't done that in decades.

    • @smittyvanjagermanjenson182
      @smittyvanjagermanjenson182 Місяць тому +3

      Anyone who knows anything about VR knows Meta Quest 3 is the way to go (starting at $299). Also, Meta doesn't block porn like some weird religious cult.

  • @Helloyousilverdevil
    @Helloyousilverdevil Місяць тому +4

    As an obsolete tech collector, I can’t wait for these to get cheap on ebay so I can add one to my collection. Newton, Pippin, G4 cube, trashcan Mac, lots of super unique tech that really didn’t get off the ground

    • @danielnofal
      @danielnofal Місяць тому +1

      I have quite a few of those!

  • @antoniodragonheart8965
    @antoniodragonheart8965 Місяць тому +6

    This is the best rising tech news channel 🎉

  • @diehardcynic
    @diehardcynic Місяць тому +3

    amazed at how you write such quality stuff so quickly. keep it up !

  • @loopba
    @loopba Місяць тому +6

    Cook uses the Vision to imagine himself on a yacht with 12 men

  • @thisaintart
    @thisaintart Місяць тому +42

    That time money joke 🤯🤣😂😭😭😭😭

    • @GameBacardi
      @GameBacardi Місяць тому +2

      You can't say Time without Tim

  • @geggyboy1269
    @geggyboy1269 Місяць тому +13

    "Time and money" 🤣🤣

  • @ben_1
    @ben_1 Місяць тому +7

    Just as context: The Apple Vision Pro was discontinued faster than Google Glass

  • @bbqislife
    @bbqislife Місяць тому +2

    You hit the nail on the head on every single point. Its shocking how other You tubers don't get it

  • @agrmbl
    @agrmbl Місяць тому +5

    Official spin is they have a huge inventory, enough for until mass-market version is released. They keep updating the OS though.

  • @singh73030
    @singh73030 Місяць тому +16

    2:10 , not even a different colour 😂😂

    • @Curt_Sampson
      @Curt_Sampson Місяць тому +1

      Of course it's not a different colour! If you don't check the $200 option for that, you don't get that feature.
      Sheesh, I don't see what's so difficult about this.

  • @Cingku
    @Cingku Місяць тому +21

    Before, people were mad at me when I said something like this would happen. Don’t say I didn’t warn you. It’s not rocket science-you just have to use your brain to think, not fanboyism.

    • @Warlord_Megatron
      @Warlord_Megatron Місяць тому +4

      Honestly with the way apple currently is, I'm surprised it's not a bankrupt company. The products are flat out worse in most aspects than options available in the market, how are these guys even in business?

    • @NCC-0000
      @NCC-0000 Місяць тому +5

      @@Warlord_Megatron Fanboyism, it is incredible how just that handles Apple

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 Місяць тому +1

      @@Warlord_Megatron I remember years back, you could walk into an apple store and the devices were genuinely cool to mess around with. It actually seemed like they were onto something cool and new. All you see now is different metal slabs, some with colors. All of them with huge upgrade costs for memory and storage. At least they make laptops that have good processors now though, that is one thing that has improved.

    • @username7763
      @username7763 Місяць тому

      I thought the iPhone was going to flop. Too expensive, one carrier only, no SDK, everything was so limited. So now I assume any time Apple releases something dumb that it will be a big hit.

  • @nathanottrey
    @nathanottrey Місяць тому +9

    This is $6000 dollars in Australia, so without tax and working full time hours with casual loading I can afford to buy this after a month!

    • @erolserif5357
      @erolserif5357 Місяць тому +2

      you are lucky, in Balkans you would have to work 10-12 months to be able to buy this thingy

    • @namelastname9578
      @namelastname9578 Місяць тому +1

      ...and without any expenses at that.

    • @GeneralKenobi69420
      @GeneralKenobi69420 Місяць тому

      Americans/Canadians/Australians: "I'm so poor, I make 90k a year and only ordered UberEats 6 times this month"
      Western European me living on 3 figures a month: "What's UberEats?"

  • @gamingbigfats3934
    @gamingbigfats3934 Місяць тому +5

    Apple died with Steve Jobs😢

    • @naturalroyalflush
      @naturalroyalflush Місяць тому

      Agreed. Once the visionary departs...it’s all but over. Applies to most corporations.

  • @themusers03
    @themusers03 Місяць тому +12

    Hit the nail on the head, Tim has no vision other than to keep milking the same old cow.

  • @thejackimonster9689
    @thejackimonster9689 Місяць тому +14

    Price is too high, battery life too low, device weighs too much, it is not comfortable to wear and there is no software around to use it...
    Yeah, why did it fail? How could that happen?

    • @Wanderer2035
      @Wanderer2035 Місяць тому +3

      Also Apple blocked the porn

    • @thejackimonster9689
      @thejackimonster9689 Місяць тому +2

      @@Wanderer2035 Oh wow, didn't know that. That has to be the courage, we know from Apple. Selling VR glasses without porn or fun games.

  • @mifit3303
    @mifit3303 Місяць тому +8

    12 cameras + lidar sensor + a few other things, each for $200.

    • @DarkLordDiablos
      @DarkLordDiablos Місяць тому

      It's like Tim looked at Google Glass and said "Hold my beer. We can do better."
      He just got the end goal wrong in that it beat it on how long it lasted not by being better.

  • @doompod
    @doompod Місяць тому +29

    They didn’t cancel the product, they just stopped production for this model.

    • @blayzej
      @blayzej Місяць тому +5

      Well, they didn't announce a second one... meaning a cheaper version without all the cameras and features, with future apps development going to be for the cheaper next iteration... still means it's mostly a face mask going forward

    • @babybirdhome
      @babybirdhome Місяць тому +6

      Yeah, and apparently they also didn't respond to the cancellation - this whole video is just clickbait in the end.

    • @Macheako
      @Macheako Місяць тому +6

      Les be honest…..if it ain’t canceled, it probably should be 😂

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Місяць тому

      @@Macheako The whole technology tree from VR to AR and between doesn't reward early adopters although the ones that come latter will thank you all for your sacrifice.

  • @Dave-my1we
    @Dave-my1we Місяць тому +4

    Spend $3500 to look like a an a-hole in a robot’s visor? Errrrr, no.

  • @Chl30p4t4t4
    @Chl30p4t4t4 Місяць тому +3

    2:18 if you do the math, that's about 1.7 billion worth of unsold stock

  • @brucekennedy5274
    @brucekennedy5274 Місяць тому +4

    A friend of mine got one second hand (clue 1). I said while I had no intention of getting one, an hour mucking about on his would be cool. Then he told me about all the “guest user” faff you had to go though, and I was like “nah, I’m not that bothered” (clue 2)

  • @halycano
    @halycano Місяць тому +3

    Just wait in 5 years when collectors start charging for ten times the original price.

  • @CaveMiner
    @CaveMiner Місяць тому +4

    I heard they are giving away the rest of the Apple Vision Pros for free if you order a Krabby Patty at the Chum Bucket

  • @Nanagos
    @Nanagos Місяць тому +2

    The fact, that you can't even use it as a pcvr headset is just mindblowing.

    • @JimmyNuisance
      @JimmyNuisance Місяць тому

      You can use it as a PCVR headset. The main issue is the lack of controllers and the fact that using it on PC is less than optimal. Latency and such just blows.

  • @Faciek
    @Faciek Місяць тому +7

    You forgot Airpods are also a huge success

  • @SCWgreg
    @SCWgreg Місяць тому +2

    Spot on satire!!! Particularly about Tim. Love it.

  • @Ryzza5
    @Ryzza5 Місяць тому +3

    I'm convinced most AVP customers got their purchase price back from tax write-offs and monetized content.

  • @Arsenic71
    @Arsenic71 Місяць тому +4

    I hear there's a dig somewhere in the New Mexico desert where another company already buried their unsold shit back in the 80s.

  • @JimmyCerra
    @JimmyCerra Місяць тому +8

    Somehow, I hear about tech news here first lol

  • @teamkinetixmedia
    @teamkinetixmedia Місяць тому

    So, this is a tech news channel now?
    That’s some speedy reporting 👏

  • @starkiller7278
    @starkiller7278 Місяць тому +7

    0:36 is it just me or was there a lip sync problem!?

    • @Theodorepottery
      @Theodorepottery Місяць тому

      Me to

    • @trancematics
      @trancematics Місяць тому

      I think he cut to clip of a previous video of his whilst carrying on with the voice-over on this one. Hence the no lip-sync.

    • @gameplayz5847
      @gameplayz5847 Місяць тому +1

      I dont think it was supposed to be synced anyways

  • @jayl5032
    @jayl5032 Місяць тому +2

    I saw this coming right away. So did the other 8 billion people on the planet.
    What a waste of time and resources.

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt Місяць тому

      Probably 6 billion don’t even know the Vision Pro exists and are far more interested in working hard to get fresh water or the next meal rather than watching peurile videos and believing everything they say.

  • @cheetos3269
    @cheetos3269 Місяць тому +3

    Maybe because people were like "I really like this, unfortunately it costs so much" and then saw the Meta Quest 3 for $500.

    • @DarkLordDiablos
      @DarkLordDiablos Місяць тому

      The HTC VIVE is only £730 and you can pay as little as £25.57 a month from Argos.

  • @wobblymovie42
    @wobblymovie42 Місяць тому +2

    1:35 Damn that 3rd video is wild, hasn't seen it yet but I am certainly going to watch it

  • @NathanielJoshua-zg4ee
    @NathanielJoshua-zg4ee Місяць тому +6

    oh no we lost something that no one wanted..surely no one would miss it

    • @harveylimpopo3042
      @harveylimpopo3042 Місяць тому

      I think a lot of us DO want it, but not at the fucking stupid price. Try a10th of the price and it'll take off

    • @kapilsethia9284
      @kapilsethia9284 Місяць тому

      ​@@harveylimpopo3042 give it free even I will try it.

    • @Compact-Disc_700mb
      @Compact-Disc_700mb Місяць тому +2

      @@harveylimpopo3042 But why do you want it, what purpose does it serve.

    • @DarkLordDiablos
      @DarkLordDiablos Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Compact-Disc_700mbthe purpose it serves is to better identify the Apple Sheeple so you can avoid them incase they try to covert you.

    • @JohnDoe-vp9ey
      @JohnDoe-vp9ey Місяць тому

      It will allow him to watch 3 d porn

  • @Spoonfed78
    @Spoonfed78 Місяць тому +2

    Don't ever stop Apple, you and your flock provide endless entertainment

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt Місяць тому

      Oh, don’t worry, with a $3.39T market cap, that’s a big flock and it seems to be growing. I don’t think they’re going to leave it there.

    • @Spoonfed78
      @Spoonfed78 Місяць тому

      @NeilLavitt they set the moral and ethical stage of how so many pay for the privilege. If it was an individual narcissist doing it to them it's not cool though.

  • @HackionSTx
    @HackionSTx Місяць тому +5

    I really didn't SEE this coming.

    • @LateralTwitlerLT
      @LateralTwitlerLT Місяць тому +2

      Probably because you lack VISION

    • @HackionSTx
      @HackionSTx Місяць тому +1

      @@LateralTwitlerLT oh, I SEE what you mean.

  • @OnlyVibes403
    @OnlyVibes403 Місяць тому

    Congrats on 400k sub.

  • @Illeea
    @Illeea Місяць тому +4

    vr/ar needs to be better than a computer/phone in most aspects before it succeeds. its still seen as a gimmick rather than the future.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Місяць тому

      Video games give us a clue what that future might be, but not only the tech we wear on our face needs to improve, but the tech in the larger world needs to too.

  • @4.0GPA
    @4.0GPA Місяць тому

    This channel is gold. Loved you Sam!

  • @Billy_Rizzle
    @Billy_Rizzle Місяць тому +3

    Who wants to wear that uncomfortable and goofy AF thing on their face? Not to mention the short battery life and the awkward cable to the battery/processor.
    If Apple's share price wasn't so high, Tim Cook's leadership would actually be brought into question over this failure.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Місяць тому

      The new Minis seem to be doing well to rave reviews.

  • @woodlakesound
    @woodlakesound Місяць тому +1

    When I demoed one 6 months ago I was more interested in the surround sound capabilities. Sound was not great and I knew that would kill it for me personally. I was imagining being at a virtual concert.

  • @fredrickbambino
    @fredrickbambino Місяць тому +3

    The future of vr is wearable glasses. People arent gonna be walking around with a heavy metal pair of goggles all day to replace their computures.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Місяць тому

      That would be AR with a side order of VR. Just note Magic Leap didn't do too well either.

    • @fredrickbambino
      @fredrickbambino Місяць тому

      @brodriguez11000 because the tech isn't there yet, we're still a dacade away from making good batteries and good displays small enough as well as everything being affordable

  • @Sterling81Media
    @Sterling81Media Місяць тому

    Well written and edited! Thanks for the video.

  • @rocketmunkey1
    @rocketmunkey1 Місяць тому +9

    The problem is although there a lot of stupid people in the world who think the future is to live in 4K head mufflers, fortunately only 1% of them can afford Apple Maths.

  • @alhypo
    @alhypo Місяць тому +2

    Knowing Sam Tucker never bought an AVP definitely increases my respect for him. 👏

  • @mattb9664
    @mattb9664 Місяць тому +4

    Since Occulus had been around since 2015/2016, I finally bought into Quest 3 last Christmas, expecting there to be tons of useful apps and education/STEM purposes for my daughter...but I should have done some more research. It's still just a glorified method of playing games only slightly better than cell-phone mobile game quality. That said, I can tell that Meta is subsidizing the cost of the device, so you are getting quite a bit of hardware at cost.
    I imagine the Vision Pro is just a M2 processor based laptop that pulls off seamless AR integration with the Apple ecosystem...and not much else for the moment. And some games. And you the customer are funding it rather than Apple.

  • @alurone1
    @alurone1 Місяць тому

    My dishwasher has artificial intelligence in it, and Apple has been working on goggles for how many years?

  • @Windhox_cz
    @Windhox_cz Місяць тому +9

    Last time I was this early Apple Vision Pro was still a thing.

  • @nastybadger-tn4kl
    @nastybadger-tn4kl Місяць тому +2

    Now i bough mac mini 4. My keyboard not responsive. two words and cpu go on sleeping. You are the da best comedian in youtube. Make more videos

  • @Someguyonweb959
    @Someguyonweb959 Місяць тому +6

    Wake up babe! Samtime just uploaded

  • @gillianorley
    @gillianorley Місяць тому +2

    There is no indication that it has been “ended.” It’s still on the Apple Store and no such news or announcements have been made.
    People are speculating that they have reduced production which is what you would expect prior to them introducing the next version. Additionally, they just announced additional countries in which the Vision Pro is now sold and supported.
    I realize that this is a humor channel satirizing Apple, but you should still base your satire on some actual facts.
    The Vision product isn’t going anywhere m. If anything m, it will be expanded to include lower priced versions.
    The first version is the Pro version, which is unusual, but that means a “regular” version is yet to come at lower prices and eventually an SE version.
    This will happen as new, faster processors roll out. They needed the fastest, most expensive processor at the time of launch, the M2, for it to work at all, that was expensive, so they made it a n expensive “Pro” version first.
    Now, the M4 is the current processor with the M5 coming in 2025, so the older processors, including the M2, become cheaper and so will the Vision equipped with M2 processors while the new Pro versions will have M4 or M5 processors.
    In future years, the Vision with M2 processors become the low priced Vision SE while the Vision will have the M4 or M5 processors and the future Vision Pro will have M6 processors at the $3,500 price point.
    And so on, year after year.

  • @InteractiveDNA
    @InteractiveDNA Місяць тому +3

    I knew from day one! Having the Quest 2 for $150 that did the same or even better things.

  • @merlinsrobe4621
    @merlinsrobe4621 Місяць тому +1

    I used the Vision Pro a few weeks ago in an Apple Store. I'm convinced that watching sports broadcasts tailored for Vision Pro is the killer app -- it was like nothing I'd ever seen -- better than being in the stadium live.

    • @DarkLordDiablos
      @DarkLordDiablos Місяць тому

      I got a plastic adaptor that my Samsung S8 fitted into that turned it into a makeshift VR headset and was able to watch the 2018 World Cup so if the sport app is something you feel is worth the price.
      Then clearly you have to much money and not enough sense.

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt Місяць тому

      @@DarkLordDiabloswow, that must have truly made you look like an idiot.

  • @Archaeonauts
    @Archaeonauts Місяць тому +6

    I'm only just now hearing that the Vison Pro was ending production. I guess I get my tech news here now.

  • @vcrbetamax
    @vcrbetamax Місяць тому +1

    I forgot this was a product.

  • @Blapy123
    @Blapy123 Місяць тому +13

    The worst part of the Vision Pro is that it’s actually a pretty good product ITS JUST THE PRICE WHAT MAKE IT A TERRIBLE DEVICE

    • @Windhox_cz
      @Windhox_cz Місяць тому +6

      And the lack of games?
      Because the "work usages" are just gimmics.

    • @Blapy123
      @Blapy123 Місяць тому

      @@Windhox_cz it wasn’t made it for gaming tho

    • @perkulant4629
      @perkulant4629 Місяць тому +4

      @@Blapy123that’s the problem it was bad for productivity, countless people have said long term. Was clunky and sluggish. And yes price was a big factor.

    • @norso
      @norso Місяць тому

      @@Blapy123 which is stupid. I feel like if it could play games like proper vr games it would be kind of worth it.

    • @Sajgoniarz
      @Sajgoniarz Місяць тому +3

      @@Blapy123 it wasn't made for anything and that is the problem. Not for games. Not for standalone office. Not for extending mac setup with multiple virtual displays. Basically a $3k paperweight in comparison to 4 year old VR headset with $250 price tag.

  • @Bug13
    @Bug13 Місяць тому +1

    $3500 dollars for a novelty like this was insane, even with an apple logo on it.

  • @miroslavzima8856
    @miroslavzima8856 Місяць тому +4

    Yup, and this should happen to all of those greedy corporations no matter which focus they have (games, technology, etc.)

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Місяць тому

      Everyone is greedy. Some more willing to admit it than others.

  • @watterfalls
    @watterfalls Місяць тому +2

    Hi loving the videos

  • @webluke
    @webluke Місяць тому +8

    VR failed again? I'm SHOCKED! If only people had Vision for 3D TVs and Touch Screen Keyboards, VR could take off...NOT.

    • @randomseer
      @randomseer Місяць тому +2

      Vr is taking off with more and more headsets being sold. More than half of all headsets were sold in the past 3 years, and it's finally big enough for big games like metro and behomoth to be made without funding from the headset manufacturer. It's just that it's not apple headsets.
      The quest 3 , 3s are doing great, and the psvr2 is still alive ig

    • @demonicsquid7217
      @demonicsquid7217 Місяць тому +2

      VR hasn't failed. Apple failed at its attempt at VR.

    • @webluke
      @webluke Місяць тому

      LoL, I knew this would bring out the "VR isn't dead bla bla bla" people. VR will always be a novelty and will never be mainstream. You may find it fun, but even the biggest supporters can only spend a few hours using it daily. But you can sit in front of a low-cost laptop for hours and get work done; I'm not saying you should, but you can. Try VR for work with your normal parents 8 hours a day, they can't.

    • @randomseer
      @randomseer Місяць тому

      @@webluke I mean you're just objectively wrong when the numbers keep going up.

  • @marcusaurelius49
    @marcusaurelius49 Місяць тому

    Who would have thought a $3500 pair of fancy ski goggles with no practical applications would fail.

  • @SargonDragon
    @SargonDragon Місяць тому +3

    This video is funny, but inaccurate as far as being actual news. Apple is finishing production of the Vision Pro because they're releasing the Vision Pro 2 next year which will upgrade it to the M5 processor. Finishing production of the old model because they're moving on to producing the new model is not actually news, but media is turning this into clickbait.

    • @dudmanjohn
      @dudmanjohn Місяць тому

      That's a good plan 🤔

    • @LachskoenigIV
      @LachskoenigIV Місяць тому

      Suuure buddy, they didn't actually plan to sell any in the first plave.

    • @SargonDragon
      @SargonDragon Місяць тому

      @@LachskoenigIV Half a million of them is a decent number to sell of a 1st gen $3500 product in a new product category. It's not wildly successful in its first outing, but it's far from the failure the media wants to paint it as either.
      I'm not an Apple fan. I'm not interested in the AVP myself. I laughed at the jokes in this video. But in reality, the AVP is doing alright, and it is not going away.

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 Місяць тому

      @@SargonDragon Having a warehouse full of unsold product doesn't help.

    • @NeilLavitt
      @NeilLavitt Місяць тому +1

      @@dudmanjohngo tell Tim and maybe they’ll put you in charge of strategy.