I was legit upset to see Thomas dragged into any of that nonsense but he handled it with pure class and for that he has my support and respect, im buying copies of no rest for the wicked for my boys when co op drops. I just think devs like him deserve more recognition because very few developers and just people in the industry in general speak up because the risk of slander or harassment for having the “wrong” opinion but it showed Thomas isn’t afraid to protect his IPs from being turned into a vehicle for someone’s political agenda. We need more of this
I completely agree, I honestly can't believe that the industry (development and journalism] has had this level of infiltration by "activists". After thinking about it and looking at hiring trends and recruitment at tech companies someone like this is exactly who they are unfortunately looking for and HR departments love this type of person and this is the also the type of person who would also work in the HR field To really fix this problem companies need to take a hard look at their HR departments, recruitment candidates, and HR policies
@@ParadoxicaI_insomnia he dragged himself into it in purpise because the person claiming to have dobe for tem was not the right type and lowkey admitted what was said was true in the process of his defense. Certain gamers are okay with a toxic workplace as long as its towards certain types they don't like and they like their games.
Thank you for everything you do. Thank you for being connected with your audience and respecting us. Thank you for keeping political pressure and culture wars out of gaming (both the games and the studios themselves). I bought 3 of your games today. Gamers will rally to wholesome shit.
Honestly the best thing against this behavior isn’t even the anti woke crowd, if you literally ignore these clowns they just fade like dust, cause they have no real argument and once they have no enemy they just stand confused no way to cry-bully. Great job Thomas
That is honestly the cure, but one that requires people to make the choice and being that they all make their content off of each other, I don't see that changing anytime soon.
I genuinely don't understand why Thomas's question would be taken as offensive anyhow. I've been on (non-game) projects where folks at the top didn't know everyone personally. If the boss asks, "what did you do on the project" and you were actually involved, that's an opportunity to get name recognition. The only reason to be upset is if you weren't actually involved.
She got offended because she was lying. If she did work on game doing something low key or whatever, for the exact reason you mentioned, she would've jumped at the opportunity to introduce herself to an influential creative and get some recognition. She didn't work on the game though and she's a terminally online twitard, so being offended is a state of being.
This is supposed to be parody, right ? 15 minutes in we've gone from some people beefing on twitter about padding their resume to talking about seasonal depression and the importance of vitamin D while showing blacksmithing footage for some reason.
@Ares42 the lines between parody/critical thinking and reality/realistic expectations and behavior, blurr the closer society/empires come to collapse. and when you are aware of this fact its extremely depressing, and stressful to both think about, and take seriously but also terrifying to try to ignore. and no offense but if you and the 17 other people who upvoted your comment cant see that. you really need to shift your perspective to be more aware of that idea/fact.
What Moon did is 10x worse than DEI. Promised multiplayer on first patch and that was 6 months ago. They objectively scammed the people who supported them and lied. Let's call it what it is, which is lying. I'm tired of people defending it.
With the lack of community interaction and development in NRFTW. Considering we got an update for a part of the game that shouldn't have been touched until late game. And for that and various other reasons, I won't be supporting any of their titles.
Zinc with the vitamin D is important. It helps fully activate the D. Struggle with depression myself. Being purposely about my time in prayer and study of the Bible, and a steady diet of solid apologetics helps carry me through those times.
I came across both you and Thomas due to this situation and I’m so happy I found both of you. I’ve always wanted to try Ori and NRftW but now I’m more excited to get the games just to support Moon. I also wanted to thank you for being such a good vocal member of the community who understands the issues with gaming today. God bless you!
In other words they have become dodo birds. They waddle around unable to even save themselves. The predators literally just walk up to them and eat them up like they are casually eating a buffet. They are dodo birds, who lived in peace for so long to their detriment.
Gaming is fine. What's happening is a weakening of the corporate strangleholds. We're going to see a lot of mini houses of developers like in the 90's. Especially with home tech advances.
Thomas is awesome! And the games are awesome, please stay real! I feel like every game I have been waiting for is just turned into garbage lately. I have high hopes for No Rest for the Wicked.
We all have our struggles, find a healthy outlet to spend that energy. We are all broken my brother if you struggle find some good men in your life to rally behind you and struggle on
love this one , but, it triggered me,I actually made a comment on instagram, where , I swear all I said was that I returned Star Wars Outlaws , and refused to replay the game , Alyssa attacked me on instagram, and made nasty comments about my wife, to were I changed my instagram photo, which was my wife and I, Weeks after I thought this was over she then sent trash comments to my father on Facebook something to the effect of, how does it feel knowing that your son, is an image of Toxic Masculinity, misogynistic , and hateful, if it wasn’t for the fact he is a veteran I would turn him in for being something I can’t begin to see anyone saying about myself. My father who is also a veteran, him with PTSD couldn’t understand any of this. Sorry for the book.
Mate, I'm terribly sorry you were personally attacked by that crazy little girl. She's an absolute nutcase and has nothing but bitterness in her soul. I'd definitely say block her on everything and do not respond to her. Stupid girls like her breath toxicity and drama.
What really bothers me is that a lot of people are truly in the dark about what is actually happening in the industry. The vast majority of indie developers are completely uninvolved with what is happening, such as the Ori developers, so for this to happen to them, really upsets me. See, I know all the devs which are not involved in the drama and are simply getting by like everything hasn't changed for the past 10 years, because for them, it hasn't, neither has their communities either and I'd rather not give anyone who only cares about virtue signalling and attention more targets for their malicious behaviour, but I will confidently say there are a far greater number of developers out there who have nothing to do with what is going on, than there are of whom are involved. Now, the *actual* list of developers who have drunk the crazy cool-aid can be easily counted on one hand, as for everyone else, they are in most cases victims of outside interference. In a lot of cases it is more or less a publisher who hires a consultancy firm which hijacks the narrative design direction, or they bring in a group to do the localisations who are the problem, or even above the publisher and it is in fact a government agency which is enforcing requirements on games to even allow them to be published (the body type A, body type B is an example of this, it isn't the devs, it is a policy the developers have to follow or they're not allowed to sell their game in the country). So, in most cases, the developer isn't responsible and shouldn't be blamed. I can only think of a grand total of 3 games with forced DEI to come out in the past decade and all 3 have failed. Now this is a subject I prefer to not really discuss because I view both sides of the equation, the DEI group and the anti-DEI group to be of equal levels of toxicity, attention seeking and harmfulness to society as a whole. I am frankly tired of their drama and their hatefulness hidden behind moral lies and gaslighting. More often the case, most who are of the activist persuasion are not developers, they are often people who hold key positions where they can influence decision making of the corporate side, or they are go between for a community and publishers where they use that position of trust to twist the truth and present a false understanding of what customers want, by presenting their own desires and ignoring that of the customers. Sometimes this has happened to developers, but from my understanding, most of the time when this did happen, said individuals actions were unveiled very quickly and they were fired shortly after as a result, I can think of two different service games where this has happened, but again I won't name any names. The vast majority of these individuals however have imbedded themselves within the games journalism sector of the industry not because they want to disrupt the industry, but because it is the only work they could find, they'd much rather work for The Guardian or some actual established high class news outlet, as opposed to covering games. But, at the same time, they care more about preaching their politics than they do about doing their jobs and since preaching their politics attracts more attention, so they make more ad money, the struggling journalism industry pushes it, without even taking into consideration the amount of damage their influence is on society in the process; They have a responsibility to be honest and they're being disingenuous for money from outrage. Unfortunately, it is these sources which executives read, so executives think this is what customers want, so they sign deals to take advantage of DEI schemes to save money and get tax exemptions. At the end of the day, the key issue is usually with the states which they are located in, such as Canada, which pushes these sorts of inclusivity schemes because people voted in people who push these without even considering it was a bad idea. What I don't understand about the culture war is that we see grown adults, ADULTS, behaving like children. Whatever happened to the concept of professional conduct, she should know better, she has her whole life ahead of her and will ruin her career by being abusive towards people on the internet. You'd think an adult would think a while before they went ahead and post a comment which can be construed as abusive online or react in a manner reflective which is emotionally driven rather than logically deduced and even then, if it is something they won't say in front of their boss, their spouse, their children or their parents, they shouldn't say it or post it on the internet, as the internet is forever. How is someone who behaves this way able to get work in the industry to begin with, let alone lasted long enough to humiliate themselves on social media, to me speaks more about the endemic issues with how the industry employs people to begin with than it does about the ineptitude of those they employ.
she doesn't care about a career. she just cares about clout, because the consequences are not the same of people who are left wing. They are the modern day fascists that they claim the right wing are. On one hand, you have Alyssa who can say all this bullshit yet still has a job, on the other you have people like John Gibson from Tripwire Interactive who had to leave his company because of one pro-life tweet in response to all the pro-abortion hysteria coming out of the games industry. If you are on the right, you suffer at the hands of the cancel pigs. If you are on the left, you are a "protected class" And then you have all the idiots in the middle who want to behave like they are so above it all and nothing that is being fought over right now even matters. It certainly matters. It matters more than any of these clowns know.
Sore subject, but like, what are you supposed to do if you see someone online using the name of games or studios, and then they were not directly involved with them? It may be awkward to bring it out in the open, but is there another way to do it than just directly ask who are they if director does not recognise the person? Also how is this related to women/black/anything? In that situation it probably did not have much bearing whether that post was made by human, cat, dog, mutant, whatever?
It doesn't have anything about women/black/anything it just that the other person tried to bring a political reason in order to beat the director because he didnt have any other choice since he couldn't counter his logic with another logical reasoning.
I am tired of noticing how 90% of this kind of outrage is coming from white women... I'm sorry for noticing that. It must be just a coincidence. And I don't know why it is such a prevalent, recurring coincidence. Maybe it has something to do with white privilege...
@@GingerPrimeGaming Yeesh, it’s hard to fathom how she could have possibly thought it was ok to use that image in her post. And how could the other woman go to bat for her about that? It’s akin to plagiarism. 🤦🏻♂️
I really love the message and Im glad you found ways to be able to cope with your seasonal depression I know many people who struggle with "mental illness" and your intentions seem very noble. Such a welcoming and calm environment you have created.
This is even sadder if you used to watch Quelaag for Souls lore. It is depressing seeing such a nice person, who is herself quite fragile, being absolutely slam-dunked into oblivion by a one-hit simple question. I have no idea what went through her head to take such a stupid swing like that, and on Twitter of all places. What a mess...
This game will come out of early access in about 2 years.. then we can buy and play it with full multiplayer support.. if they don't abandon it, that is...
Love the video. You need to work on reading the quotes and articles you get it all jumbled up a bit lol (not meaning this as attack at all it just made it hard to follow what was being said). Liked and subbed though enjoyed the video.
@@GingerPrimeGaming Well now I feel bad lol. Sorry about that I was just being sincere sometimes I got lost in what was being said. Hope I didn’t offend.
the second game shone is called 'tell me why', a game about twins trying to confront their past, the 'brother' is trans and it gets into several debates about acceptance and depression. I just wish we could go back to making amazing games without the needless drama. No rest for the wicked is a good step towards it 'though it does abuse me a lot'
@@muteninjaturtle I want games that are enjoyable instead of the agenda driven games we get. the games that do this get criticized on the internet such as black myth and stellar blade.
@@Pathless99 literally every game has an agenda. Every piece of work. Every piece of art. Nothing is wrong with not liking agendas that don't align with your views but just not every game should be based on your personal preference. Maybe instead of not wanting games that make other people feel included to be made; it would be more appropriate to want for more games that ARE made to appease you. Other people being included doesn't mean that you all of a sudden are being taken away from.
@@muteninjaturtle your taking this out of context. I'm stating I dislike baseless drama. now your debating on every game having a agenda. I disagree, games are meant to be fun and enjoyable, gamers play games to escape real world problems. sure some games have a subtle message to convey but it shouldn't be the main focus.
@@Pathless99 no. I am taking your words at face value. You implied that only games being made are games with 'agendas'. Every game DOES have an agenda. Maybe you don't understand the word 'agenda'. Or maybe you are just falling for the game that a certain demograph gets so triggered about. Name a game and if i know the basis pf it; i will tell you it's agenda But one agenda every game must implicate; is to get people to play or be immersed. Also... you named Black Myth as one of "those" games. Well Black Myth has sold well over the 20 million mark. And the lore behind the original story is way more INCLUSIVE and DIVERSE than the retelling. Stop letting echo chambers rot your brain and control YOUR agenda.
I got so confused halfway through, thinking "is this guy just repeating whatever this ginger dude is saying in the comments?", and it took me a few more minutes to see the channel's name and realizing - this channel belongs to the ginger dude *mindblown*. I agree with what you're saying, ginger dude, and I also don't think ill of Thomas Mahler after reading that stupid hit piece. I wasn't born in the 2000s, and was called worse than "retarded" by my friends and we still got along, reading Thomas' comments before reading that article made me understand that he's probably doing it "oldschool" - not politically correct, but chill.
I honestly feel like there's a mis-analysis here due to proximity. The issues in the industry right now have everything to do with the tensions created by increased development costs, which lead to needs to cut costs wherever possible if you want to avoid increasing sticker prices, paired with an economy-wide failure of incomes to keep up with prices. Its why you see a bunch of publishers looking at AI tools to further reduce costs, the problem they're failing to see is that doing so removes more people from the work-force, decreasing overall purchasing power and perpetuating the problem that got us here. Woke, anti-woke, and all the rest is, to borrow the metaphor, rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. We have captured news and media outlets and bad actors in our online social spaces promoting fighting with each over, over largely pointless nonsense. Some of the arguments started by those people have kernels of truth in them and people will take them in their best light and ignore the parts that they're uncomfortable with. Whether its gamer-gaters ignoring the very real and malicious presence of white supremacist and neo-nazi groups instigating within the movement or social justice warriors ignoring the pernicious way in which their empathy is being hijacked to attack people who hold no actual power so it goes undirected at anything useful. Ultimately we exist, whether we want to admit it or not, in an under-class in our society, and it is in the interest of our over-class to keep us fighting each other over which jersey we're wearing so we don't collectively fight them instead.
When it comes to the upper class as George Carlin has said there is no reason for organized cooperation when interests converge. It's just in all of their interests to perpetuate this.
5:20 I agree with this. The problem with video game journalism is that it's become subjective rather than objective. There's no standard for determining what's good or bad and it's completely arbitrary. Black Myth: Wukong getting flagged for lack of diversity while Flintlock: Siege of Dawn does not? You can't have it both ways. With no consistency, it's not reliable. 10:30 This is how Vanillaware and the modern P Studio has come to exist. A huge chunk of Vanillaware artists up through 2010 were those pushed out from the Square and Enix merger as they decided to new Square Enix focused more on 3D games. It's a bit ironic that other folks ended up joining them later on, essentially moving a noticeable chunk of former Square Enix personnel over to Shin Megami Tensei and Persona in the years that followed. People moved on to an environment that supported what they wanted to do. 11:50 I don't think it's the limiting of creativity that's the problem. The Oregon Trail has been doing the same thing for 40 years to great success. There's a working formula and you can refine it, but you probably shouldn't mess with it too much. There's a proven audience who like what you're doing and want you to do the proven concept again, but better. When you want to do something completely new and different, you don't want to push it under an established and recognized franchise that's already known for doing something else. If you really want to do something else, it should be treated as something else entirely instead of being like Square Enix throwing everything under the Final Fantasy brand.
Most men hate feminism, most women hate redpill, most gamers hate DEI, but at the end of the day it would be nice not to worry about all of this anymore, thomas didnt play favourites, he just wants to make games irregardless of political beliefs. And to be honest its so needed in this hobby of ours to see devs stand up to this nonsense not by being "based and redpilled ooh ah ah" but instead spoke with some sophistication and thought.
The main way I follow gaming drama is via reddit and UA-cam posts; I deleted my Twitter 2 years ago (never had a Reddit account; I look, but never touch) and it was the best decision I ever made. Even now, the glimpses I get at Twitter posts are already exhausting lol. In my opinion, people need to step back and take a pause when it comes to a lot of social media posts.
Hope he realize it places a mark on his back because these grifter cultist don't easily forget and they're usually very petty and vindictive, can sometimes wait patiently for years to get back at someone they had run ins with.
Nice talk and presentation man, but even the moderate psychological sicknesses can take quite some time and effort to heal, and only happens when the patient accepts his/her situation and want to go for a cure. We are talking about some egoist who suffer from Pathological narcissism here, at least some good portion of them are that way. No one should expect them to come around... not with a 15 minutes of advice for sure. I hope such videos help with people who naively romanticize such harmful ideologies at least though
An alpha leader gives you a company like Apple. Steve Jobs was not a nice guy, but he did drive his people to excellence. Course I am still buying android, I'm not rich.😂
It truly doesn't matter. You seem to feel strongly about this. Political polarization is a very big issue and regardless of what you believe it would be nice if we would keep our thoughts to ourself or approach them in a less aggressive manner especially in this welcoming environment.
The problem with gamergate is that it always leaps above it's bounds. It starts agreeable but and then more and more is thrown into the pile. Like that "save your son's" quote goes far beyond games and into a stratosphere of a whole lot stuff. And then you got those that are genuinely racist or sexist that hinder the criticism. And then you got people making lists of dei games saying a game is dei/woke for the slightest offense. Woman protagonist in the game? Woke. A gay character? Woke Because of extremist i dont believe gamer gate will ever be taken seriously.
the problem with gamergate is that the feminazis actually convinced the normies that the issue was a misogyny (when in reality it was "journalism")... they kidnapped the narrative like real pros
This culture war stuff is so exhausting. I don't know who you are or why your video was suggested to me by the algorithm, but this is a slanted recap of an interaction between bad people.
How is Thomas a "bad person"? Genuinely, I want to hear your reasoning for this. I want you to type it. If you can't, then you shouldn't make statements like that.
@@eastbow6053 Is that what she said? All she said that she worked on it. If she worked on the game, as part of Microsoft's R&D team, she worked on the game. However, she ABSOLUTELY should have been specific on how she was involved versus how she initially portrayed it.
As black man and a long time viewer from the Carribean im hearing some coded language from you that I find disheartning name calling is not cool and I agree with thomas but what does that has to do with learning about ancestors what! that hop is crazy. The internet and world is not a anybody safe space then contradict with that last part is crazy.
Any pejorative use of “virtue signaling” is always a right wing “virtue signal” lol. Guess thats what it takes to thrive in this increasingly toxic and hateful space.
You can tell a lot about a person by how they tip toe around issues that they are not in the vortex of. I heard that coded language too. I don't even remember subbing to this channel; sure will remember why I unsubbed, though.
"Coded language" Ironic as you are using coded language as well... Being all vague and dogwhistling about dogwhistling. Or that's as much as I can gather from your comment. And in case you wonder why he's bringing such political thought into the mix: "Wokeness" is a real political ideology. The ACTUAL terms for it is "neo-marxist post-modernism". That's quite a terrifying word monster, right? But you research it and it fits wokeness perfectly. Wokeness isn't just DEI, it's about identity Marxism with "0 truths"
QUELAAG started this?? Really sad to see that, I used to enjoy her souls content some time ago, but there were clues she was shamelessly biased and aggressive on a lot of things.
Why do you guys always focus on the bad games? If that is all you see then yes you will think gaming is going down. Look at all the good games that came out but nope you guys just whine and cry about the bad games. Just stop. You are adults, stop acting like the kids you were when you started your channels. Let the teens whine about the bad games and let us, those with the money now, buy the good games AND STOP buying the bad games or supporting them, like WoW. If you keep buying the bad games the devs think you like them, like WoW. You guys keep throwing your money at it like it is going to get better and it does not then you cry. How do you guys not understand basic economics? You keep buying their trash so they think their trash is what we want, so that is what they supply us with.
I heard about this yesterday thru asmon vid.. Thomas didn't want to have his company dragged into the dei woke bullsht..I don't blame him at all And he had every right to say what he said
No disrespect to gingerprime but this man has terrible advice for the black gamer. The black gamer is the biblical Israelite and already has a God who has the best advice for a lost and happily colonized ppl. Other than that great vid
I would rather work with a boss that is quite harsh when it work but if this will going to improve my skills, I would be happy to work for that boss. Art and game design is very important in games, its normal for the team to argue for the direction. A lot of directors like he said miyamoto have something similar happend, a lot in fight studios despite all that the films. I really like moon studios response it was a nice response nothing ill will, well maybe a little sarcasm at end. I would be happy if I've get a a chance to be his employee and to be taugh by him. Journos i dont respect them anymore. They create problems not solutions. They think they are better at game development but in reality they dont know a thing on how it works.
*lack of innovation is what killed console gaming 👎 but this phase were in now is just bad blood leaving the body. by 2030, Rockstar, EA, SEGA and maybe 2K will be the only independent AAA studios left....and AA developers will take over as they should.*
This video makes me sad. I find it hard to understand how you on one hand want people to be nice to each other but on the other hand defend toxicity work environment. Comments like this is your safe space are incongruous with people should treat each other with respect. People need to just stop. The rules you have for the chat should be the same rules for people working on any project. Passion isn’t an excuse for toxic work spaces. As a final note I do not know enough about the claims at their studio to have an opinion on that. I am commenting only about how your arguments seem incompatible. Thanks for your time.
The question is what do you define as "toxic" when people put that work, it's over used and thus loseing any real meaning or impact, same goes for "woke" overused easily divisive.
@@GingerPrimeGaming toxic has no meaning socially for sure. I was just parroting the word you read in those comments. Toxic at best is defined as something the speaker finds distasteful or unwanted. But even then that’s just a definition I made up right now. It’s definitely not my point though. I was more interested in a consistency in your arguments. You’re the one who said the work place is not a safe place. I assume you mean it’s okay to be abusive to employees while developing software. I don’t think that viewpoint is consistent with asking people to be civil in UA-cam chat. Clearly there are nuances to you point but I still would challenge you to not defend behaviors you would personally not allow in your community you’re building here.
No I don’t mean it’s ok to abuse others, but I’m more talking about the reality that we live in. I’ll try and explain it here but if it needs a video I’ll make that for you. I believe in collective bargaining but I also think a lot of people wait around for someone else to stand up and say something. If we accept the world isn’t the way we wish it was, rather then pretending it is, then we can focus on the things we can change and can control. Big reason why you’ll see me encouraging people to get out of debt because debt is a tool corporations use to control you. So if I can set the individual on a path to freedom they can mitigate the flaws of others because they’ll be in a position of strength.
i mean i used to play 1-2 good games a year in the 80s and 90s. Now im treated to 10+ great games every year. Even during dry years. I dont care about the weird politics that you guys seem to be obsessed about.
@@jaydunna2645 real talk. It feels like they are way more obsessed about the culture war stuff and want to scream woke on everything. A game can’t just be bad cus it’s done poorly. It has to be blamed on DEI or going woke. I can’t even keep up with all the great games. They should focus on that instead of some boogie man.
Is there any reason not to make God a joke though? I mean if christians want to believe that they are actually this magical ghost who can survive death and they want others to accept their beliefs, then it's only fair for them to accept that different sort of crazies believe that the magical ghost thing can end up in a "wrong" body. But they can't be that consistent, otherwise they will end up in the same pile of bullshit as their opponents. In reality they are no different in terms of "facts and logic that don't care about your feelings".
The "both siders" are honestly so stupid. As long as they continue to ignore the very real problem of wokeness, they will continue to lose their jobs and be broke.
He was being an asshole. She said what kind of work she did and he still made it a point to pull her card not because she was padding her resume but because he has an axe to grind with thr other side. Dude will gain a lot of fans from it though, everything they said was true and he's proud of it, despite calling it a hitpiece.
Moon is certainly seeing a surge in sales, from gamers like me. I didn’t own a single title of theirs. Now I own 3. I know there are many gamers rallying to Thomas for having a spine and putting us first and not caving to DEI culture war bullshit. Plus, the bonus of course is we get new gaming experiences by supporting.
@@bigbox1431 I don’t play those games. There’s no appeal. Worse, those that do are the same type that play sports games for influence and sponsorship, so the original joy found in playing them is lost.
Oh shit, Ginger! You brought up Dr. Peterson, you’re in for it now 😂 you’re going to hear all kinds of....interesting people tell you off even though they have never listened to Jordan Peterson. I think that Thomas, and yourself, both handled this situation well. Funny enough, it’s usually the ones on the “other side” that are the nasty ones, at least in my experience online. I wish everyone well and I hope we can someday get to a place where race, gender, or any other trait doesn’t mean you deserve something, rather, you bust your ass, work hard, and reap what you sow.
People shouldn't be afraid of truth, the fact that people find him controversial is telling though, because he does provide a lot of wisdom and truth even if you disagree with his politics. In the end, people are complex and we shouldn't be so tribal to reject the truth that the other side possesses.
I enjoyed watching her Elden Ring lore videos, but her social media antics with this whole thing just seems super shady to me and since the usual anti-gamer jokers show up to stick up for her, I learned all I needed to know.
Well, you had me up until that awful "save your sons" decline-of-western-civilization bullshit. I'll keep my online porn and my respect for individualism and personal freedoms, thanks.
We won the culture war, nobody wants DEI and all that nonsense, everybody just want good games/movies. Lets not pay more attention to it, and keep only supporting non-political game devs
And what culture War did "yall" win? Literally 9/10 of the variation of cultures in my country support each other and respect no wannabe master race. Hope you are okay after November 😅😅😅
The moment you quoted Lobster-obsessed-omega-quack Jordan Peterson, is the moment I hit unsubscribe. I know you don't care and that's fine, neither do I since I only watched you for your No Rest for the Wicked content. But, you can't ideologically follow people who give you false platitudes because they sound pretty. Also, his takes on gender and men's health are false and toxic and don't take into account those at the top who tell men they should fit inside of this perfect little box so that they can one day aspire to be just as successful (which 99.9999% of the time doesn't happen because it's a numbers game, it can't). Instead the vast VAST majority of those men who believe and live that grind culture end up destroying their bodies and are told to have kids so that their kids can take over once the father's bodies wear out from a grind-based cultural mindset that TRULY does not care.
There is no decline in gaming. There is just an over saturated market and hyperfocus on political nonsense. There still has always been consistently great games and shit games.
I was legit upset to see Thomas dragged into any of that nonsense but he handled it with pure class and for that he has my support and respect, im buying copies of no rest for the wicked for my boys when co op drops. I just think devs like him deserve more recognition because very few developers and just people in the industry in general speak up because the risk of slander or harassment for having the “wrong” opinion but it showed Thomas isn’t afraid to protect his IPs from being turned into a vehicle for someone’s political agenda. We need more of this
I completely agree, I honestly can't believe that the industry (development and journalism] has had this level of infiltration by "activists".
After thinking about it and looking at hiring trends and recruitment at tech companies someone like this is exactly who they are unfortunately looking for and HR departments love this type of person and this is the also the type of person who would also work in the HR field
To really fix this problem companies need to take a hard look at their HR departments, recruitment candidates, and HR policies
@@ParadoxicaI_insomnia he dragged himself into it in purpise because the person claiming to have dobe for tem was not the right type and lowkey admitted what was said was true in the process of his defense. Certain gamers are okay with a toxic workplace as long as its towards certain types they don't like and they like their games.
I work for moon but don't have twitter so thank you for recapping whenever these things take place!
@@StefanH Moon Studios rock! Thanks for all the hard work.
@@travismorse5050 I 2nd that!
Thank you guys for all of your hard work, we wish you nothing but the best and I cant wait to play No rest for the wicked when it's finally ready.
Thank you for your work, despite my issues (I wish you guys knew what No Rest was going for, but that's just me) I want you guys to succeed.
Thank you for everything you do. Thank you for being connected with your audience and respecting us.
Thank you for keeping political pressure and culture wars out of gaming (both the games and the studios themselves).
I bought 3 of your games today. Gamers will rally to wholesome shit.
Honestly the best thing against this behavior isn’t even the anti woke crowd, if you literally ignore these clowns they just fade like dust, cause they have no real argument and once they have no enemy they just stand confused no way to cry-bully. Great job Thomas
That is honestly the cure, but one that requires people to make the choice and being that they all make their content off of each other, I don't see that changing anytime soon.
I genuinely don't understand why Thomas's question would be taken as offensive anyhow. I've been on (non-game) projects where folks at the top didn't know everyone personally. If the boss asks, "what did you do on the project" and you were actually involved, that's an opportunity to get name recognition. The only reason to be upset is if you weren't actually involved.
cause he didnt believe a woman
How are you people still looking for a reason or logic from those ever-offended insects?
She got offended because she was lying. If she did work on game doing something low key or whatever, for the exact reason you mentioned, she would've jumped at the opportunity to introduce herself to an influential creative and get some recognition. She didn't work on the game though and she's a terminally online twitard, so being offended is a state of being.
This is supposed to be parody, right ? 15 minutes in we've gone from some people beefing on twitter about padding their resume to talking about seasonal depression and the importance of vitamin D while showing blacksmithing footage for some reason.
@Ares42 the lines between parody/critical thinking and reality/realistic expectations and behavior, blurr the closer society/empires come to collapse. and when you are aware of this fact its extremely depressing, and stressful to both think about, and take seriously but also terrifying to try to ignore. and no offense but if you and the 17 other people who upvoted your comment cant see that. you really need to shift your perspective to be more aware of that idea/fact.
He pads out every single one of his videos to the point of absurdity
"The job, the work, the internet, these aren't your safe spaces" FACTS!
This ie enough for me to buy Moon's game. The line in sand was drawn by DEI. We just got to tell people on the other side with our money to get bent
DEI boogeyman just living rent free in all of you people's heads 😅
What Moon did is 10x worse than DEI. Promised multiplayer on first patch and that was 6 months ago. They objectively scammed the people who supported them and lied. Let's call it what it is, which is lying. I'm tired of people defending it.
With the lack of community interaction and development in NRFTW. Considering we got an update for a part of the game that shouldn't have been touched until late game. And for that and various other reasons, I won't be supporting any of their titles.
Zinc with the vitamin D is important. It helps fully activate the D.
Struggle with depression myself. Being purposely about my time in prayer and study of the Bible, and a steady diet of solid apologetics helps carry me through those times.
Good tip!
I came across both you and Thomas due to this situation and I’m so happy I found both of you. I’ve always wanted to try Ori and NRftW but now I’m more excited to get the games just to support Moon. I also wanted to thank you for being such a good vocal member of the community who understands the issues with gaming today. God bless you!
In other words they have become dodo birds. They waddle around unable to even save themselves. The predators literally just walk up to them and eat them up like they are casually eating a buffet. They are dodo birds, who lived in peace for so long to their detriment.
I'm buying your game just from this video! Carry on good sir!
Gaming is fine. What's happening is a weakening of the corporate strangleholds. We're going to see a lot of mini houses of developers like in the 90's. Especially with home tech advances.
When you're keen on ANY news on NRFTW and all you get is some info on online hassling .. nice..
Alysa Mercante no longer in Kotaku.
Such good news, I hear she's at rolling stone.
Thomas is awesome! And the games are awesome, please stay real! I feel like every game I have been waiting for is just turned into garbage lately. I have high hopes for No Rest for the Wicked.
what the heck does this have to do with NRFTW?
Remember when Twitter had verified accounts so you couldn’t easily just claim to be someone you’re not? Yeah….
it's much better the way it is now.
@@johnwayne4911 it is factually not.
@@NeverUseAnApostrophe elitism, favoritism, celebrity and censorship has been done away with. You are a clown and your facts are irrelevant.
Wish-listed on my xbox, can't wait for it to be released.
I can't wait for you to play it.
Broo the message of hope...I dont know what to do about my likes, my kinks, my sexuality.Its all so difficult :(
We all have our struggles, find a healthy outlet to spend that energy. We are all broken my brother if you struggle find some good men in your life to rally behind you and struggle on
so long as your kinks and sexuality doesn't hurt others and is consensual, go for it. fuk what others think
@@GingerPrimeGaming man i wish. I hope god can forgive me. I really try i swear i do
@jac6548 that's hard to do when a whole wing of politics literally hates them for existing, and the loudest gamers shadow that sentiment.
@@ombra711 yeah but the other side… see my problem is that the loudest echo chambers are all super extremist
That lady is unhinged.
love this one , but, it triggered me,I actually made a comment on instagram, where , I swear all I said was that I returned Star Wars Outlaws , and refused to replay the game , Alyssa attacked me on instagram, and made nasty comments about my wife, to were I changed my instagram photo, which was my wife and I, Weeks after I thought this was over she then sent trash comments to my father on Facebook something to the effect of, how does it feel knowing that your son, is an image of Toxic Masculinity, misogynistic , and hateful, if it wasn’t for the fact he is a veteran I would turn him in for being something I can’t begin to see anyone saying about myself. My father who is also a veteran, him with PTSD couldn’t understand any of this. Sorry for the book.
Mate, I'm terribly sorry you were personally attacked by that crazy little girl. She's an absolute nutcase and has nothing but bitterness in her soul. I'd definitely say block her on everything and do not respond to her. Stupid girls like her breath toxicity and drama.
She is a miserable excuse for a human being, and has no business being in media. Just pretend she doesn't exist.
Great video with a good message,
Thank you kindly
What really bothers me is that a lot of people are truly in the dark about what is actually happening in the industry. The vast majority of indie developers are completely uninvolved with what is happening, such as the Ori developers, so for this to happen to them, really upsets me. See, I know all the devs which are not involved in the drama and are simply getting by like everything hasn't changed for the past 10 years, because for them, it hasn't, neither has their communities either and I'd rather not give anyone who only cares about virtue signalling and attention more targets for their malicious behaviour, but I will confidently say there are a far greater number of developers out there who have nothing to do with what is going on, than there are of whom are involved. Now, the *actual* list of developers who have drunk the crazy cool-aid can be easily counted on one hand, as for everyone else, they are in most cases victims of outside interference.
In a lot of cases it is more or less a publisher who hires a consultancy firm which hijacks the narrative design direction, or they bring in a group to do the localisations who are the problem, or even above the publisher and it is in fact a government agency which is enforcing requirements on games to even allow them to be published (the body type A, body type B is an example of this, it isn't the devs, it is a policy the developers have to follow or they're not allowed to sell their game in the country).
So, in most cases, the developer isn't responsible and shouldn't be blamed. I can only think of a grand total of 3 games with forced DEI to come out in the past decade and all 3 have failed. Now this is a subject I prefer to not really discuss because I view both sides of the equation, the DEI group and the anti-DEI group to be of equal levels of toxicity, attention seeking and harmfulness to society as a whole. I am frankly tired of their drama and their hatefulness hidden behind moral lies and gaslighting. More often the case, most who are of the activist persuasion are not developers, they are often people who hold key positions where they can influence decision making of the corporate side, or they are go between for a community and publishers where they use that position of trust to twist the truth and present a false understanding of what customers want, by presenting their own desires and ignoring that of the customers. Sometimes this has happened to developers, but from my understanding, most of the time when this did happen, said individuals actions were unveiled very quickly and they were fired shortly after as a result, I can think of two different service games where this has happened, but again I won't name any names.
The vast majority of these individuals however have imbedded themselves within the games journalism sector of the industry not because they want to disrupt the industry, but because it is the only work they could find, they'd much rather work for The Guardian or some actual established high class news outlet, as opposed to covering games. But, at the same time, they care more about preaching their politics than they do about doing their jobs and since preaching their politics attracts more attention, so they make more ad money, the struggling journalism industry pushes it, without even taking into consideration the amount of damage their influence is on society in the process; They have a responsibility to be honest and they're being disingenuous for money from outrage. Unfortunately, it is these sources which executives read, so executives think this is what customers want, so they sign deals to take advantage of DEI schemes to save money and get tax exemptions. At the end of the day, the key issue is usually with the states which they are located in, such as Canada, which pushes these sorts of inclusivity schemes because people voted in people who push these without even considering it was a bad idea.
What I don't understand about the culture war is that we see grown adults, ADULTS, behaving like children. Whatever happened to the concept of professional conduct, she should know better, she has her whole life ahead of her and will ruin her career by being abusive towards people on the internet. You'd think an adult would think a while before they went ahead and post a comment which can be construed as abusive online or react in a manner reflective which is emotionally driven rather than logically deduced and even then, if it is something they won't say in front of their boss, their spouse, their children or their parents, they shouldn't say it or post it on the internet, as the internet is forever. How is someone who behaves this way able to get work in the industry to begin with, let alone lasted long enough to humiliate themselves on social media, to me speaks more about the endemic issues with how the industry employs people to begin with than it does about the ineptitude of those they employ.
she doesn't care about a career. she just cares about clout, because the consequences are not the same of people who are left wing. They are the modern day fascists that they claim the right wing are.
On one hand, you have Alyssa who can say all this bullshit yet still has a job, on the other you have people like John Gibson from Tripwire Interactive who had to leave his company because of one pro-life tweet in response to all the pro-abortion hysteria coming out of the games industry.
If you are on the right, you suffer at the hands of the cancel pigs.
If you are on the left, you are a "protected class"
And then you have all the idiots in the middle who want to behave like they are so above it all and nothing that is being fought over right now even matters. It certainly matters. It matters more than any of these clowns know.
@@johnwayne4911You are engaging in bad faith like a child. Cancel culture isn't real, it is just the newer name for consequences.
Sore subject, but like, what are you supposed to do if you see someone online using the name of games or studios, and then they were not directly involved with them? It may be awkward to bring it out in the open, but is there another way to do it than just directly ask who are they if director does not recognise the person? Also how is this related to women/black/anything? In that situation it probably did not have much bearing whether that post was made by human, cat, dog, mutant, whatever?
It doesn't have anything about women/black/anything it just that the other person tried to bring a political reason in order to beat the director because he didnt have any other choice since he couldn't counter his logic with another logical reasoning.
I am tired of noticing how 90% of this kind of outrage is coming from white women...
I'm sorry for noticing that. It must be just a coincidence. And I don't know why it is such a prevalent, recurring coincidence. Maybe it has something to do with white privilege...
So the girl did or did not have any actual affiliation with Moon? Seems like there was at least one response from her that was left out here.
She did not, she did some testing for Xbox but never worked for moon.
@@GingerPrimeGaming Yeesh, it’s hard to fathom how she could have possibly thought it was ok to use that image in her post. And how could the other woman go to bat for her about that? It’s akin to plagiarism. 🤦🏻♂️
I am personally extremely happy some devs and gamers are pushing back on the toxic woke culture.
Same here
I really love the message and Im glad you found ways to be able to cope with your seasonal depression I know many people who struggle with "mental illness" and your intentions seem very noble. Such a welcoming and calm environment you have created.
Great video!
Thanks!
This is even sadder if you used to watch Quelaag for Souls lore. It is depressing seeing such a nice person, who is herself quite fragile, being absolutely slam-dunked into oblivion by a one-hit simple question. I have no idea what went through her head to take such a stupid swing like that, and on Twitter of all places. What a mess...
This game will come out of early access in about 2 years.. then we can buy and play it with full multiplayer support.. if they don't abandon it, that is...
Love the video. You need to work on reading the quotes and articles you get it all jumbled up a bit lol (not meaning this as attack at all it just made it hard to follow what was being said). Liked and subbed though enjoyed the video.
I'll be sure to relay this message to my disability ;)
I do try, it's just a massive weakness of how my brain reads things.
@@GingerPrimeGaming Well now I feel bad lol. Sorry about that I was just being sincere sometimes I got lost in what was being said. Hope I didn’t offend.
the second game shone is called 'tell me why', a game about twins trying to confront their past, the 'brother' is trans and it gets into several debates about acceptance and depression. I just wish we could go back to making amazing games without the needless drama. No rest for the wicked is a good step towards it 'though it does abuse me a lot'
In other words; you don't want games that aren't for you to be made. Gotcha.
@@muteninjaturtle I want games that are enjoyable instead of the agenda driven games we get. the games that do this get criticized on the internet such as black myth and stellar blade.
@@Pathless99 literally every game has an agenda. Every piece of work. Every piece of art. Nothing is wrong with not liking agendas that don't align with your views but just not every game should be based on your personal preference. Maybe instead of not wanting games that make other people feel included to be made; it would be more appropriate to want for more games that ARE made to appease you. Other people being included doesn't mean that you all of a sudden are being taken away from.
@@muteninjaturtle your taking this out of context. I'm stating I dislike baseless drama. now your debating on every game having a agenda. I disagree, games are meant to be fun and enjoyable, gamers play games to escape real world problems. sure some games have a subtle message to convey but it shouldn't be the main focus.
@@Pathless99 no. I am taking your words at face value. You implied that only games being made are games with 'agendas'. Every game DOES have an agenda. Maybe you don't understand the word 'agenda'. Or maybe you are just falling for the game that a certain demograph gets so triggered about. Name a game and if i know the basis pf it; i will tell you it's agenda
But one agenda every game must implicate; is to get people to play or be immersed. Also... you named Black Myth as one of "those" games. Well Black Myth has sold well over the 20 million mark. And the lore behind the original story is way more INCLUSIVE and DIVERSE than the retelling. Stop letting echo chambers rot your brain and control YOUR agenda.
I got so confused halfway through, thinking "is this guy just repeating whatever this ginger dude is saying in the comments?", and it took me a few more minutes to see the channel's name and realizing - this channel belongs to the ginger dude *mindblown*.
I agree with what you're saying, ginger dude, and I also don't think ill of Thomas Mahler after reading that stupid hit piece.
I wasn't born in the 2000s, and was called worse than "retarded" by my friends and we still got along, reading Thomas' comments before reading that article made me understand that he's probably doing it "oldschool" - not politically correct, but chill.
People aren’t nice because it’s actually hard to be nice to people. You don’t know you have to actually work on yourself to be able to do that.
i wished this game took off more. thomas is a beast!
I honestly feel like there's a mis-analysis here due to proximity. The issues in the industry right now have everything to do with the tensions created by increased development costs, which lead to needs to cut costs wherever possible if you want to avoid increasing sticker prices, paired with an economy-wide failure of incomes to keep up with prices. Its why you see a bunch of publishers looking at AI tools to further reduce costs, the problem they're failing to see is that doing so removes more people from the work-force, decreasing overall purchasing power and perpetuating the problem that got us here.
Woke, anti-woke, and all the rest is, to borrow the metaphor, rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. We have captured news and media outlets and bad actors in our online social spaces promoting fighting with each over, over largely pointless nonsense. Some of the arguments started by those people have kernels of truth in them and people will take them in their best light and ignore the parts that they're uncomfortable with. Whether its gamer-gaters ignoring the very real and malicious presence of white supremacist and neo-nazi groups instigating within the movement or social justice warriors ignoring the pernicious way in which their empathy is being hijacked to attack people who hold no actual power so it goes undirected at anything useful. Ultimately we exist, whether we want to admit it or not, in an under-class in our society, and it is in the interest of our over-class to keep us fighting each other over which jersey we're wearing so we don't collectively fight them instead.
yes, those are the problems according to the people that would like to dance around the actual issues.
@@johnwayne4911 What actual issues are you referring to?
When it comes to the upper class as George Carlin has said there is no reason for organized cooperation when interests converge. It's just in all of their interests to perpetuate this.
@@lilaredden feminism being part of it (and no, even the original feminism wasn't about equality)
@@jaromor8808feminism has nothing to do with why no one can afford anything anymore and has no material impact on the processes at play
5:20 I agree with this. The problem with video game journalism is that it's become subjective rather than objective. There's no standard for determining what's good or bad and it's completely arbitrary. Black Myth: Wukong getting flagged for lack of diversity while Flintlock: Siege of Dawn does not? You can't have it both ways. With no consistency, it's not reliable.
10:30 This is how Vanillaware and the modern P Studio has come to exist. A huge chunk of Vanillaware artists up through 2010 were those pushed out from the Square and Enix merger as they decided to new Square Enix focused more on 3D games. It's a bit ironic that other folks ended up joining them later on, essentially moving a noticeable chunk of former Square Enix personnel over to Shin Megami Tensei and Persona in the years that followed. People moved on to an environment that supported what they wanted to do.
11:50 I don't think it's the limiting of creativity that's the problem. The Oregon Trail has been doing the same thing for 40 years to great success. There's a working formula and you can refine it, but you probably shouldn't mess with it too much. There's a proven audience who like what you're doing and want you to do the proven concept again, but better. When you want to do something completely new and different, you don't want to push it under an established and recognized franchise that's already known for doing something else. If you really want to do something else, it should be treated as something else entirely instead of being like Square Enix throwing everything under the Final Fantasy brand.
Most men hate feminism, most women hate redpill, most gamers hate DEI, but at the end of the day it would be nice not to worry about all of this anymore, thomas didnt play favourites, he just wants to make games irregardless of political beliefs.
And to be honest its so needed in this hobby of ours to see devs stand up to this nonsense not by being "based and redpilled ooh ah ah" but instead spoke with some sophistication and thought.
The main way I follow gaming drama is via reddit and UA-cam posts; I deleted my Twitter 2 years ago (never had a Reddit account; I look, but never touch) and it was the best decision I ever made. Even now, the glimpses I get at Twitter posts are already exhausting lol. In my opinion, people need to step back and take a pause when it comes to a lot of social media posts.
Hope he realize it places a mark on his back because these grifter cultist don't easily forget and they're usually very petty and vindictive, can sometimes wait patiently for years to get back at someone they had run ins with.
Yes but they are also the best way to promote your game because they wherent going to buy it anyway but they’ll promote it on social media
Cant just have a normal conversation anymore lol. F ing ridiculous timeline we live in. Dudes have to defend themselves from angry weirdos.
Nice talk and presentation man, but even the moderate psychological sicknesses can take quite some time and effort to heal, and only happens when the patient accepts his/her situation and want to go for a cure. We are talking about some egoist who suffer from Pathological narcissism here, at least some good portion of them are that way. No one should expect them to come around... not with a 15 minutes of advice for sure. I hope such videos help with people who naively romanticize such harmful ideologies at least though
An alpha leader gives you a company like Apple. Steve Jobs was not a nice guy, but he did drive his people to excellence. Course I am still buying android, I'm not rich.😂
ITS NOT LEFT OR RIGHT WING ITS TOP VS BOTTOM
It truly doesn't matter. You seem to feel strongly about this. Political polarization is a very big issue and regardless of what you believe it would be nice if we would keep our thoughts to ourself or approach them in a less aggressive manner especially in this welcoming environment.
It not that its far deeper. Its parasites and leechs VS Productive ppl that carry society on their back.
It is the power vs the people, that's the real game, but we get distracted and fight each other.
@@QQWoLPHie oh so sorry I entirely misinterpreted your message
The problem with gamergate is that it always leaps above it's bounds. It starts agreeable but and then more and more is thrown into the pile.
Like that "save your son's" quote goes far beyond games and into a stratosphere of a whole lot stuff.
And then you got those that are genuinely racist or sexist that hinder the criticism.
And then you got people making lists of dei games saying a game is dei/woke for the slightest offense. Woman protagonist in the game? Woke. A gay character? Woke
Because of extremist i dont believe gamer gate will ever be taken seriously.
the problem with gamergate is that the feminazis actually convinced the normies that the issue was a misogyny (when in reality it was "journalism")... they kidnapped the narrative like real pros
This culture war stuff is so exhausting. I don't know who you are or why your video was suggested to me by the algorithm, but this is a slanted recap of an interaction between bad people.
between "bad" people?
How is Thomas a "bad person"?
Genuinely, I want to hear your reasoning for this. I want you to type it. If you can't, then you shouldn't make statements like that.
Woke lefty: yo i worked at moon
moon ceo: wait a minute ...who are you? xD
Stuck out like a sore thumb 😂 he flagged it immediately as not making sense.
Thats partly why I just bought all their games
@@eastbow6053 Is that what she said? All she said that she worked on it. If she worked on the game, as part of Microsoft's R&D team, she worked on the game. However, she ABSOLUTELY should have been specific on how she was involved versus how she initially portrayed it.
looking for game footage of no rest for the wicked, end up in this video. seriously why is nobody talking about the game? is it that insignificant?
Its still in early access so No one Cares.
Its Like Baldurs Gate 3 once ITS finished then i will blows the internet
As black man and a long time viewer from the Carribean im hearing some coded language from you that I find disheartning name calling is not cool and I agree with thomas but what does that has to do with learning about ancestors what! that hop is crazy. The internet and world is not a anybody safe space then contradict with that last part is crazy.
Any pejorative use of “virtue signaling” is always a right wing “virtue signal” lol. Guess thats what it takes to thrive in this increasingly toxic and hateful space.
Well said.
You can tell a lot about a person by how they tip toe around issues that they are not in the vortex of. I heard that coded language too. I don't even remember subbing to this channel; sure will remember why I unsubbed, though.
"Coded language" Ironic as you are using coded language as well... Being all vague and dogwhistling about dogwhistling. Or that's as much as I can gather from your comment.
And in case you wonder why he's bringing such political thought into the mix: "Wokeness" is a real political ideology.
The ACTUAL terms for it is "neo-marxist post-modernism".
That's quite a terrifying word monster, right? But you research it and it fits wokeness perfectly. Wokeness isn't just DEI, it's about identity Marxism with "0 truths"
@@jesustyronechrist2330 shut your wet dog smelling self up. You drank too much orange kool-aid.
QUELAAG started this?? Really sad to see that, I used to enjoy her souls content some time ago, but there were clues she was shamelessly biased and aggressive on a lot of things.
Yeah it was wild to see it happen in real time
Nobody messes with our Tom.
Thomas really showing how much of a GOAT he is
Really love the guy, wish i could buy nrftw
Soon enough (2025 is my guess) and yes dude kept it classy
Why do you guys always focus on the bad games? If that is all you see then yes you will think gaming is going down. Look at all the good games that came out but nope you guys just whine and cry about the bad games. Just stop. You are adults, stop acting like the kids you were when you started your channels. Let the teens whine about the bad games and let us, those with the money now, buy the good games AND STOP buying the bad games or supporting them, like WoW. If you keep buying the bad games the devs think you like them, like WoW. You guys keep throwing your money at it like it is going to get better and it does not then you cry. How do you guys not understand basic economics? You keep buying their trash so they think their trash is what we want, so that is what they supply us with.
Ori is much better than no rest for the wicked
I heard about this yesterday thru asmon vid.. Thomas didn't want to have his company dragged into the dei woke bullsht..I don't blame him at all And he had every right to say what he said
Yep, especially when someone is implying that they are connected in some way.
whats up with new update, any infos?
"Infos" isn't a word, information is a mass noun that never gets pluralized. It is just "info."
@@NeverUseAnApostrophe not my language, and i dont care
No disrespect to gingerprime but this man has terrible advice for the black gamer. The black gamer is the biblical Israelite and already has a God who has the best advice for a lost and happily colonized ppl.
Other than that great vid
I would rather work with a boss that is quite harsh when it work but if this will going to improve my skills, I would be happy to work for that boss.
Art and game design is very important in games, its normal for the team to argue for the direction.
A lot of directors like he said miyamoto have something similar happend, a lot in fight studios despite all that the films.
I really like moon studios response it was a nice response nothing ill will, well maybe a little sarcasm at end.
I would be happy if I've get a a chance to be his employee and to be taugh by him.
Journos i dont respect them anymore.
They create problems not solutions.
They think they are better at game development but in reality they dont know a thing on how it works.
*lack of innovation is what killed console gaming 👎 but this phase were in now is just bad blood leaving the body. by 2030, Rockstar, EA, SEGA and maybe 2K will be the only independent AAA studios left....and AA developers will take over as they should.*
This video makes me sad. I find it hard to understand how you on one hand want people to be nice to each other but on the other hand defend toxicity work environment. Comments like this is your safe space are incongruous with people should treat each other with respect. People need to just stop. The rules you have for the chat should be the same rules for people working on any project. Passion isn’t an excuse for toxic work spaces. As a final note I do not know enough about the claims at their studio to have an opinion on that. I am commenting only about how your arguments seem incompatible. Thanks for your time.
The question is what do you define as "toxic" when people put that work, it's over used and thus loseing any real meaning or impact, same goes for "woke" overused easily divisive.
@@GingerPrimeGaming toxic has no meaning socially for sure. I was just parroting the word you read in those comments. Toxic at best is defined as something the speaker finds distasteful or unwanted. But even then that’s just a definition I made up right now. It’s definitely not my point though. I was more interested in a consistency in your arguments. You’re the one who said the work place is not a safe place. I assume you mean it’s okay to be abusive to employees while developing software. I don’t think that viewpoint is consistent with asking people to be civil in UA-cam chat. Clearly there are nuances to you point but I still would challenge you to not defend behaviors you would personally not allow in your community you’re building here.
No I don’t mean it’s ok to abuse others, but I’m more talking about the reality that we live in. I’ll try and explain it here but if it needs a video I’ll make that for you.
I believe in collective bargaining but I also think a lot of people wait around for someone else to stand up and say something. If we accept the world isn’t the way we wish it was, rather then pretending it is, then we can focus on the things we can change and can control. Big reason why you’ll see me encouraging people to get out of debt because debt is a tool corporations use to control you. So if I can set the individual on a path to freedom they can mitigate the flaws of others because they’ll be in a position of strength.
i mean i used to play 1-2 good games a year in the 80s and 90s. Now im treated to 10+ great games every year. Even during dry years. I dont care about the weird politics that you guys seem to be obsessed about.
@@jaydunna2645 real talk. It feels like they are way more obsessed about the culture war stuff and want to scream woke on everything. A game can’t just be bad cus it’s done poorly. It has to be blamed on DEI or going woke. I can’t even keep up with all the great games. They should focus on that instead of some boogie man.
thank you.
Is there any reason not to make God a joke though? I mean if christians want to believe that they are actually this magical ghost who can survive death and they want others to accept their beliefs, then it's only fair for them to accept that different sort of crazies believe that the magical ghost thing can end up in a "wrong" body. But they can't be that consistent, otherwise they will end up in the same pile of bullshit as their opponents. In reality they are no different in terms of "facts and logic that don't care about your feelings".
The "both siders" are honestly so stupid. As long as they continue to ignore the very real problem of wokeness, they will continue to lose their jobs and be broke.
Thank Fkin You!
Great video.
Руки прочь от Томаса!
Ingenue is pronounced On jen oo and it means someone who is innocent and unsophisticated.
He was being an asshole. She said what kind of work she did and he still made it a point to pull her card not because she was padding her resume but because he has an axe to grind with thr other side. Dude will gain a lot of fans from it though, everything they said was true and he's proud of it, despite calling it a hitpiece.
So many weak people. 😭😭😭
Moon is certainly seeing a surge in sales, from gamers like me. I didn’t own a single title of theirs. Now I own 3.
I know there are many gamers rallying to Thomas for having a spine and putting us first and not caving to DEI culture war bullshit.
Plus, the bonus of course is we get new gaming experiences by supporting.
Oh yeah, if you didn't know T4 has finally been released in Lost Ark.
It’s not a decline, so much as recognition that the joy once held is being lost.
Tell me you know nothing about Fortnite, Roblox, and Minecraft without telling me.
It is 100% a decline
@@bigbox1431 I don’t play those games. There’s no appeal. Worse, those that do are the same type that play sports games for influence and sponsorship, so the original joy found in playing them is lost.
@@JLeeCN In what way? Also, the decline wasn’t discussed in the video, more of the lack of respecting dissidence.
@@MisteRRYouTuby Just because you don't find the joy in them doesn't mean a ton of other people don't. They obviously do.
What does this have to do with No Rest for the Wicked or a "decline in gaming"?
It's just Twitter bs, nothing more. What is this video.
Oh shit, Ginger! You brought up Dr. Peterson, you’re in for it now 😂 you’re going to hear all kinds of....interesting people tell you off even though they have never listened to Jordan Peterson.
I think that Thomas, and yourself, both handled this situation well. Funny enough, it’s usually the ones on the “other side” that are the nasty ones, at least in my experience online. I wish everyone well and I hope we can someday get to a place where race, gender, or any other trait doesn’t mean you deserve something, rather, you bust your ass, work hard, and reap what you sow.
People shouldn't be afraid of truth, the fact that people find him controversial is telling though, because he does provide a lot of wisdom and truth even if you disagree with his politics. In the end, people are complex and we shouldn't be so tribal to reject the truth that the other side possesses.
I enjoyed watching her Elden Ring lore videos, but her social media antics with this whole thing just seems super shady to me and since the usual anti-gamer jokers show up to stick up for her, I learned all I needed to know.
these women's job titles are getting crazy these days..
Well, you had me up until that awful "save your sons" decline-of-western-civilization bullshit. I'll keep my online porn and my respect for individualism and personal freedoms, thanks.
Porn is a horrible drug; I hope you can kick it someday.
this dude is bored making videos now he is starting to talk rubbish XD
@@kyuzo26 absolute hogwash 😆
@@Pnut4206 facts u goblin
Thomas really didnt have to respond with "who are you" rude
@@MMZS528 lmao, your so sensitive 🤣
you're part of the problem (unless you were joking)
I'm sorry, who are you?
We won the culture war, nobody wants DEI and all that nonsense, everybody just want good games/movies. Lets not pay more attention to it, and keep only supporting non-political game devs
"Nobody wants DEI"...
😅😅😅😅😅 snowflakes crack me tf up
And what culture War did "yall" win? Literally 9/10 of the variation of cultures in my country support each other and respect no wannabe master race. Hope you are okay after November 😅😅😅
This video was a lot of nothing.
The moment you quoted Lobster-obsessed-omega-quack Jordan Peterson, is the moment I hit unsubscribe. I know you don't care and that's fine, neither do I since I only watched you for your No Rest for the Wicked content. But, you can't ideologically follow people who give you false platitudes because they sound pretty.
Also, his takes on gender and men's health are false and toxic and don't take into account those at the top who tell men they should fit inside of this perfect little box so that they can one day aspire to be just as successful (which 99.9999% of the time doesn't happen because it's a numbers game, it can't). Instead the vast VAST majority of those men who believe and live that grind culture end up destroying their bodies and are told to have kids so that their kids can take over once the father's bodies wear out from a grind-based cultural mindset that TRULY does not care.
Take care dude and wish you nothing but the best.
Woman moment
There is no decline in gaming. There is just an over saturated market and hyperfocus on political nonsense. There still has always been consistently great games and shit games.