Horizon Hobby - Habu - 50mm - Second Thoughts - Wheels VS Removed???
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
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The best of the best, you and camera crew is simply the best rc chanel in the world...
Absolutely
Hey brother, I have been flying RC for about 15 years and I love the way you describe this little EDF jet. That is what new comers to EDF jets need to hear. You don't scare them, you encourage them. Good on you brother. Keep the vids coming.
You are very lucky to have so many chances to fly from outside your bungalow. My wife loved to fly and was a good pilot, let me build and model my aircraft in the front room . My son also is a flying teacher.
I’m 83 now and. Nuts on my hobby. I’m a big Horizon fan and buyer. Best wishes Clive and my dog Bryn a sheltie. 2 years old. Loved your kittens. Keep them coming .
a great pilot
Thank you for being here with us! Glad you're loving the hobby, even though your friend isn't there to enjoy it with you. Hang in there, and keep flying!
You fly with sooo much confidence brother. I commend you. 😎
Soon as I get a bit better with prop planes I definitely want one of these 👍🏻
Nice flying Brian Great job as always Camera Crew 🔥👍🏻✌🏻
It's unnerving watching you fly through those powerlines !! Those would "eat" my plane within seconds of my flight !! 😂😂
Great video! My Friend bought this jet because of your first video about this 50mm Habu. 👍
Good choice!
Great job, thank you both.
Our pleasure!
I love the way this jet looks. I’d take a scale f14 too but then I wouldn’t wanna fly it and break it.
This little jet 🛩 and how you have it setup makes it a little masterpiece! #stayepic
Agreed, Brian. Definitely a great first EDF! Habu STS 70mm was my first RC plane. Not first EDF, but first RC plane. Period. I learned from that one that if you don’t have a hard runway, remove the wheels and hand launch it. This 50mm Habu looks like so much more fun, and I guarantee it’s much easier to hand launch than the 70mm Habu STS. Great video. Lots of good info.
Me too! My first plane was the rtf Habu Sts!
Just got mine for Christmas
On my fourth plane looking to get an edf Great review as always.
Sweet! Good choice if you go for it! This plane is something you should be able to handle fine for a 4th plane
Beautiful!
It is a great package ;)
I really like mine, and have left the gear on even though I fly on grass. You can thrust reverse before landing, and it remains stable. I probably have 50 packs through mine now, because its just so convenient to use 3S. It definitely flies better and faster without gear. I'm leaving it on because I need to practice take-offs and landings.
Good call, and glad you have it!!! Wheels up - wheels down all the way ;)
Very cool! Love your videos!
Thanks!
She is very good at it!!!
She is amazing ;)
cool habu and flying,great video
Thanks!
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Hey Brian. Love your channel. Question. I just ordered this Habu ss 50mm. I have a DXS radio. Can I use thrust reverse with that RX?
Flown years ago mostly trainers. Would this be a good choice or better off with the 70sts
In your opinion, what do you think would be a better second plane, the commander or the habu ss 50?
The plane will honestly slow down in a high alpha to land in a short area, you just gotta practice, love this plane. also, I like the 1300mah to save a little weight.
I will try it out, but seems she wants to stay flat for me all the time...wonder if I don't have the CG back far enough???
@@BrianPhillipsRC And the crazy part like many other small EDF jets it flies inverted with more rudder authority
Hey Brian, did you change settings or something for the 3s 2200mah. mine is really nose heavy with the g2 Spektrum 2200. or did you use the same specs?
The wind is confused.....he he
yes
Wish it had flaps to give it better low speed capability for take-off and landings.
If you take the wheels off can you still use the same cg marks?
Agreement we are in. Best.
Si Senior ;)
For a first time EDF but experienced pilot which do you think is best, Habu or Arrows Viper with stabilizer?
Any update on when those power lines are going away? I'm sure I'd whack them 😆
Hi Brian, habu looks great buy. Just a quicky, but you mentioned that...cough, dynam could not do a scale powered plane. By pure chance I got a second hand unboxed dynam albatros last week. Cost me 120 dollars and a three hundred mile round trip drive to get it....and it was as hard to build as the dynam pt17, but it looks great, flies great ....and is 4s power. As I remember you reviewed the dynam pt17, and gave it a big thumbs up. Just saying .... Andy in uk.
I agree - there are a few that fly well! I had the PT-17, great plane, but it was still "turdish" - in that it was very heavy, and very weakly held together. Tail wheel was lost after 0 flights - LOL - and many other issues...but a good flying plane - indeed it was!
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks for reply. I ran 'turdish" hrough us to uk Google translate, and it came back with "bit shitty".
The absolute best RC reviewer ever...
Thanks!!
if HH really wants more people to fly...can't they lower the prices of the trainers...more customers that know how to fly is like $$$ in the bank for future sales!
& using safe recievers is a waste. PNP version bnf is merely $20 difference now. Pnp SHOULD BE $50 less at least!
I give away my safe rx's after a maiden. Sadly, all my buddies have many extra, spare recievers they'll never use.
@@old-rcplane-phart Why not just turn SAFE off if you don't want it? With the recent ones, you can choose not to have it during binding.
How do the slow flight capabilities on this compare to the original habu super sport, im asking for landing on the beach (you might remember) because I do want a bigger and faster jet but also one that I can land slow on the beach
It slows down well for landings, and with thrust reverse, you can "do no wrong" as the rollout can really be cut down a ton.
Landing on the beach shouldn't be a huge issue, if you would happen to catch a bump here or there, you might get flipped once in a while, but shouldn't be a huge issue, since this foam is pretty forgiving.
Brian is it possible to cut the foam back more to fit the 2200 further back? How nose heavy is it with the 2200?
Sure can, if you wish. Just don't get it too thin, or you might break the plane...if you remove a lot, you might need to replace the missing foam with some Carbon Fiber or similar.
Hello Brian,😉😉😉😉😉🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
Trying to decide on this or the 70mm ss. Only downside to the 70 for me is I'd have to buy a new set of batteries (don't currently have any 4s/6s)
Okay, great question! If you're ready for 6S Habu, my honest suggestion would be to get into the 70mm F-16 or similar... possibly Viper 70mm, or even the 80mm FMS Futura or 80mm FMS BAE Hawk or Yac 70mm - any of which will be life changing, but you're RIGHT - you'll be in it maybe $500-1000 just for the first plane, battery, and charger, but then you're SET for a LOAD of new planes, that are, to be fair - WAAAAY better.
If you have the 50mm Habu, you HAVE the 70mm STS or SS Habu - EXACTLY the same flight characteristics, and that's why it's a GREAT EDF trainer.
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Rx of your choice - bprc.me/Rx - I'd get at least AR637T but might want AR8360T for a couple choices - we'll show it in our "Unbox, Build, Radio Setup" but gotta decide if the Reflex is what you want, or if you're going to go with AS3X/SAFE.
SMART BATTERIES
bprc.me/SmartCharger - I'd highly suggest the S2200 - it's a LOT of cash, but it'll do everything you need for many, many planes down the road, and TWO channel means it's ready to do 2X batteries at 200Watts simultaneously - that's a lotta charger in a small, reliable package...only complaint I've had in the years of use is the stupid screen popped down, and I need to pull it apart again to fix it.
bprc.me/SmartBattery - If you get SMART packs, they are great, but don't get 47 at a time...just get what you need for a plane...then if you want to add once you're happy with them. Keep in mind, some of these jets SUCK the life out of packs, so just use caution...if you push them too hard, you'll spend a lot of cash QUICK replacing even expensive batteries.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the detailed reply. I'll give the f-16 a try. Need to go through your videos again and see the best battery size to order.
Definitely a quick plane duz it come in a RTF
Just PNP and BNF...but that would be a nice option given the simple setup for this plane.
Hello love your videos! I just had my first 2 flights on my Habu 50mm. I ran a Spektrum 3s 2200 100c. Didn't seem like to far into the flight, around 5 min. The motor started surging. I brought it down and throttled up and it didn't don't while I was holding it. I swapped out the battery for a brand new 3s 2200 50c and within a few minutes it was surging again so I brought it down and throttled up in my hand and it surged and then the esc started beeping? I can't find any specs or a manual for that esc...Does the lipo cutoff surge and beep at you? The dang manual the plane comes with doesn't even say. Just seems like if it is the lvc that I should've got more flight time. I did read cold weather can cause surging and it was about 40 degrees but feels colder with the wind. Again I don't know what the beeping is...What lvc is at on the esc and if it's adjuor not? Like I said there is no manual for the Avian Lite SPMXAE30A esc.
This is Low Voltage Cutoff. Are you a new pilot? If so, and speaking from lots of experience here, you're in the throttle too long. Gotta relax after some bursts of throttle, or you'll have a pack sag. Also, are you using SMART (I see Spektrum, but don't want to assume wrongly) If you are, you can wait a few seconds and see if the pack rebalances, which G2 are SLIGHTLY better at then G1....fyi...but both are very good. If you're only getting a 5 minute flight, you CAN probably extend your times by gliding more, but to all their own! You can stay in the throttle for most of the flight and the SMART ESC paired with SMART LIPO and it'll HELP protect from catching the thing on fire, but it won't save juice ;(
Good luck, keep flying it like you stole it. I hope you can strike the perfect balance ;) (Pun intended - of course)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks for the quick response! No I've been flying since 1997. Mainly powered gliders and a Stryker. Just used to longer flight times I guess lol. I was in it most of the time. A couple slow passes and then throttle up and climb, let off and then come back down for a full throttle dive and bank. So what's the beeping on the esc? Is that also part of lvc?
Also what do you use for expo? I have mine setup for low rate and high and expo according to the manual...Wondering if you have a better setup. Plus I have no SAFE and the AS3x doesn't work. If I hold the plane in my hand and move it around nothing moves. I guess I'm fine with it because none of my other planes had that technology and probably makes you a better pilot lol. Oh and yes the 2200mah 3s is a 100c smart.
U want Scale, cheap & hi performance Then DIY.
Choose platform with potential, like 50mm F18E or Mig29 kit, bcz they got proprtionally big inlets & inlets & exhaust are closeby,. Thereby less internal flow losses. Get it into expanded nozzle configuration allowing more airflow. F16, F14, F15 & even SU37 r bad choices.
Modify kit to fit a step above rated electronics, (like BP style bigger battery,) except servos. Build simple 9g servo piano wire retracts & add flaps.
yes
How many times have you hit the wires? Looks damn close!
Only 2 times, and now they're gone. I did crash into one of the poles with my MAULE. That was the only time though.
1) Carbon Z Cub SS 2.1m - Flew for 5 minutes after that one, and landed without incident.
2) Cessna Longitude UMX - kinda pushed her down on final into the ground...it was a pretty quick repair...maybe 1 hour.
When u lauch in SAFE. Is it on low rates or high rates ?
I don't use high and low rates. You can watch our UNBOX, BUILD, RADIO SETUP video for all the details, if you'd like to see how we set up our planes.
If you're using a more standard high and low rates, I'd always suggest launching in HIGH RATES
Did that wind sock get larger?
no, it's just we might have been closer too it??
Wonder if this could be flown with a 4s 1500 lipo 😊
I've had a few people ask, but I haven't tried it yet. Horizon Hobby will generally lock down the performance of these planes, so I suspect the SMART ESC will prevent use of the "wrong" size pack, BUT might be worth trying ;)
Brian, I changed out the stock esc with the 45amp esc from the E-Flite RV-7, and now fly solely on the Spektrum G2 4S 1800mah all the way forward (throttle rate had to be reduced to 90% to prevent cut offs). Still has the unbelievable slow flight capabilities and now totally blistering high speed performance. I fly off a grass field so only hand launch/belly land. Definitely a fun and easy hop up if you have a bigger esc laying around.
I know one company that makes relatively scale and economical. But I don't like how those planes either have no rudder or fly using only three servos 😕 Surpringly their F16 (3 servos) flies quite well, though the landing gear is basic.
I wish we could get small planes to have ALL the features - like the UMX, now that we have power, I want to have flaps and lights on every plane...I suspect people would tolerate a higher price tag for better flying, hobby grade.
I envy your flying area...did you buy the property with flying in mind, or just get lucky?
We looked for property for 7 years. Spent several fortunes, and will be paying for it for at least 28 more years ;)
No luck, whatsoever. This was a calculated series of many, many challenging and expensive decisions. Can't wait to share our 3-4 year plan. It's gonna be EPIC....
Pond for float planes, boats, etc...
60'X80'X20' Hangar and Building
Full scale runway for planes and PPG
Heli Pad for helis and for turning around combination trucks
4 cross wind strips, and road through the property - This will be nice for racing cars too!
AND MORE ;) Can't wait to share our vision!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Nice, I have 37 years of stuff in an 10 x 10 room shared with cats and storage.
how much thrust does the 50mm provide?
Sorry, I have no idea, but it's enough to make the plane fly. Generally, I love a 1:1 or more power to weight ratio, where the plane can have great ups, and good speed.
28:40 legitimately scared me
The sound was AMAZING though! This little bird is a firecracker!!!
@@BrianPhillipsRC I agree! also, a question: I just picked up a UMX a-10. How tight can it turn with bank and yank in a small space? wondering if it is suitable for a 1-acre backyard with a few trees in it.
Can you explain pilot fatigue please?
It's a feature (name) we came up with to make Throttle REVERSE 100% "right now" in stead of flipping a switch and then moving the throttle sick all the way FORWARD, which is something very irregular for landings, and might lead to crashes without thrust reverse.
We talk about it more on the EFlite F-16 Falcon 80mm (the gray one).
Pilot Fatigue is where a pilot had too many things going at the exact same time, and makes even a simple task very difficult. I didn't make up this definition, it comes from the fighter jet pilots who are doing about 30-40 things simultaneously in combat. We just use the terminology to help articulate this in a concise way.
It is used to slow down the plane after touchdown. It's a game changer if you haven't tried it.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks Brian!
REALLY REASONABLE PRICE.$$$
Much more-so than her bigger sisters - for sure.
Most fun you can have with a 3s battery
LOL - I want to take this comment "too far" but this is a family channel - LOL LOL LOL ;)
Where’s the scale 50mm jets. They would sell like crazy.
No kidding the wind is confused... this last few weeks its takeoff inone direction, wind shifts to the norththen east then to the south in a 4 minute flight...
Crazy last few weeks right?
Still just can't find any value with the Eflite Habu 50mm over the Arrows Viper 50mm on 4s..
Arrows 50mm BAE-Hawk and Viper have a nimble fun factor with a 4s 2700mAh that is fast and awesome sir..
I agree - wind has been a BFH last few weeks! I'm ready for spring again - LOL (and cry)
You can only choose two: high performance, scale looks, cheap...
LOL - Depends on WHERE you get it - LOL ;) Seriously, this plane is great, and flies wonderful, but just want it to look like the Habu of the early 2000's - BUTTTT she would not fly like this Habu
Without a safe rx, reverse is programmable thru the tx stick like normal. I used an ar410 n mine. BUT, remember in reverse, u suck in everything behind you! NOT good in grass!
How did you setup yours?
Is it another styrofoam drone?
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It is really too bad they chose another Habu as the basis for this. There are a myriad of sport jet designs that are not as dated looking as the Habu that they could have tweeked and used. I could never be happy with this thing regardless of how it performed simply because it is another Habu. There are plenty of straight wing scale jets they could have used for this that may have been just as beginner friendly too. It is an unfortunate choice.
I loved the original Habu's look, but to be honest, I get where you're coming from. It's hard to argue with how good it flies though.
I remember when I was first starting out, and loathing the "cartoony" look of some of these planes, then I very quickly realized, it's to keep weight down and make for a more enjoyable flight experience - BUTTTTT - now-a-days we have POWER like we never had before, and we can have BOTH (Draco - just one example) but then the cost component (Draco - LOL).
I would love to see a few LIGHT weight balsa planes, like the carbon cub, in a large size, super easy to take apart, BNF, led nav and landing lights, and GOOD gear - then we can build on this. I think we need to do some plastic moldings to get the SUPER scale look, or even go with a wrapped foamy. I think there's a lot of directions we could see the hobby companies go in the future, but I think the biggest driving force, as it always has been, can they do it AND MAKE MONEY - sad but true ;( Unless some independent billionaire decides to throw away their wealth on a pet project like this, until it reaches market maturity, we will be stuck making these beauties ourselves - still a good option!
I love the way this plane flies, and think it's a good value, but wish they could do this in another air frame too.