People seem to hate on how kh3 sora was a lot more friendly towards the org members but i thinks thats because in DDD he learns that the organizations nobodies have hearts and that they can become people again. While in kh2 he was told they werent supposed to exist as if they were like heartless. And it doesnt help that they kept taunting him about the fate of riku and the kidnapping if kairi.
Eh.. That doesn't change their actions. If anything, it means the more guilty members of the organization have even _less_ of a reason to be empathize with.
@@kyl0ooart Not necessarily! He killed almost all of the original Organization members with his own two hands. He chose to destroy Larxene, for example, because she was a sadistic manipulator that tried to kill him and hurt Namine. And showed no reaction or remorse when she died (same with Marluxia). He also _attempted_ to kill Roxas during their duel for no other reason than because he was attacked. Sora has always been characterized as ruthless toward his enemies (especially in the earlier games). He isn't so forgiving that he'd sympathize with everyone just because they're people. As was said in KH2: _"Why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? Those who were turned away from both light, and dark. Never given a choice."_ _"That's simple. It's because you mess up our worlds."_
I'll add that not just in KH2, but pretty consistently throughout his playable appearances we see that Sora has a habit of wearing a smile to mask his frustration, sadness or weariness. He often tries to hide those feelings from Donald and Goofy, with limited success, and I think it's a nuance that a lot of KH fans either tend to overlook or just assign to their favorite version of the character.
Having a moment were sora breaks from all the pressure would actually be an awesome unexpected twist for the series Something a long the lines of "i always try to be positive but this time it just dosent work" shows up that he is growing up Of course he would than later overcome that
@@ZgermanGuy. I'd argue this happens in every numbered KH title, when Sora loses the Keyblade in KH1, when Sora learns that using the Keyblade would help the Organization in KH2, and then right after Kairi gets caught by the Demon Tide toward the end of KH3. Sora doesn't explicitly say that his positivity failed the situation but he just straight gives up and someone else has to step in to get Sora back on his feet and moving again.
I never thought about how much Roxas’ feelings influenced Sora in KH2, the only time it truly clicked was when the tear is shed as he is leaving twilight town
There's a lot you can miss honestly first time through. Like his anger had always seemed a bit uncharacteristic, but when put into prospective of the intro and 358... It makes sense!
I love Sora from the start of his journey, all the way to the end of kingdom hearts 3. Sora is my favorite throughout the entire kingdom hearts franchise.
I’ve had a journey with Sora as a character. I actually started the series with Days. And between that, and just my own preferences, Roxas ended up being my favorite protagonist of the series. To the point where I was kinda angry alongside him when the series said “No. Sora is the real protagonist.” It really drove home the tragedy of Roxas’ story for me, but also made me approach the other games with a little bitterness at first. Don’t get me wrong, I never disliked them, or even Sora. But there was a part of me that was always wishing it was Roxas instead. But over time I grew to appreciate Sora as a character, especially after finally playing Re:CoM. (Skipped it at first with just a tl;dr) The way he interacted with the characters of that game, especially Namine, showed me something that gave me a new appreciation for Sora. He’s not stupid, even if he occasionally has his moments. And he’s not naive, either. He’s stubborn. When he trusts others, it’s not because he doesn’t think things through at all. And it’s not because he’s too naive to consider that they might betray him. Instead, it’s because in spite of it all, he stubbornly chooses kindness. Chooses to believe in people. And it’s that hard-headedness that inspires other characters to live up to the trust he places in them. That stubbornness that makes them want to believe as well. And it’s that quality of his, not his strength, not his cleverness or lack thereof, but the ability to inspire others to be better that makes him the protagonist the series needs. I’ll always be a little sad that it’s not Roxas’ story. But I at least know now that it’s in good hands.
Would you like a fanfic focused on Roxas as the protagonist ? There's an excellent "KH" fanfic named "The Twilight Will" in which he refused to merge back with Sora, resulting in him escaping to worlds beyond Kingdom Hearts domain, meaning these worlds are made jointly of darkness, light and nothingness, resulting in some of them being darker. The name is "KH: The Twilight Will". The worlds include: -Bioshock: Infinite; -Jak and Dexter; -God of War (original saga); -There are more, but you might not know these. In case you need further convincing, there's a world that is a video game version of the original version of "Alice in Wonderland". We also get the Nobodies explored in greater and clearer detail, not to mention he and Riku have a rematch. The nature of the hearts is also expanded, since these worlds did not belong to the original world from the age of Fairy Tales, therefore being subject to VERY different rules of how a heart operates. For example, one of the hearts Roxas connects to looks like some sort of giant neon sign. And Sora's condition as a heartless of light also receives more importance.
I've always loved both my boys and wished they became something like joint protagonists. ... I never forgave them, you know ? DiZ and Riku... For what they did to Xion and Roxas, without even seeking alternatives... I still think they merely deserve an honorable end at best.
All versions have their worth in character imo. Even with my grevences with DDD's portrayal of Sora, you can see him be a bit more empathetic for Nobodies. Or at least those like Xigbar or Xemnas.
I like his development! So to me it feels wrong to say that one version of Sora is my favorite. He's a great character and he changes over the course of the plot, that's enough, I think. He's adorable and I think we need more main characters like him
That's fair. I do agree on needing more characters like him though. Here's hoping the next arc brings a great story and development for him and the rest of the destiny trio!
yeah, it's hard for me to say there even are different versions of sora bc to me, sora is sora. though com sora was a lot more annoying than usual, at least there's a reason for it. it's not like he had a choice, the organization was using naminé to mess with his head and stuff.
I think something I like about Days is that it shows Sora from a disconnected view point where he feels like a legendary hero while also making him something that a person who's first game is days dread because he is Xemnas's goal with both Xion and Roxas.
Days character's stories are great. The way they show how everyone is (mostly in the game anyway) is one of the best ways KH has shown the characters. Some are super subtle others are outright.
Exactly ! My first introduction to the series was the kh2 manga (pretty unusual, I know), I immediately connected to Roxas and felt a sense of dread when they kept mentioning he had to go back to this "Sora" person, since I had a lack of context to who he was
An angle I tend to look at Sora with is the idea that he has no idea who he actually is and so he just adapts and behaves the way others want. Remember, he has been connected to Ven (who has many of Sora's characteristics and quirks that may have been Ven's originally because he came first and had an actual personality before Sora was able to really be a person) since he was born and then at only four years old (when most children really start to develop a personality) he took Ven completely into his heart. That had to have had an effect on him. We see as early as KH1 that Sora adapts to people around him with the infamous "no frowning, no sad face. this ship runs on happy faces!" scene where Donald and goofy basically tell him to not show his actual feelings because their mission needs him to be happy, at least outwardly. Sora throughout the games struggles to keep on a happy facade, to the point where you can tell he is ignoring and brushing his feelings aside, never taking his own feelings and how others treat him too seriously. But we know they affect him. Sora, at the end of the day, is a child that cares so much for other people that he ignores his own problems (both because he sees them as not as important, and also perhaps because at this point he doesn't know how to deal with them) and focuses on helping others even at risk to himself. He is constantly criticised and held to impossible standards, with his incredible achievements downplayed while the others around him who have done way less get far more praise. Sora deserves way more love because if I were him, at fifteen/sixteen, I would've probably had a breakdown far earlier than the bad ending.
Sora the boy who taught me optimism. The boy who taught me to have a big heart. These people whom say he has no personality, y’all are crazy. This boy is a fucking hero!
It honestly surprises me how Sora's character development is so underrated by the Kingdom Hearts fandom, to the point I hear them say he has no character development.
I hear that all the time from a friend who doesn't like Kingdom Hearts. It's mostly jokes though but there are people who look at it and see nothing when there is character growth. All of them do.
It's mostly like the Riku and Roxas fanboys/fangirls who says this. And I know they're the same ones who said that they should be the main protagonist instead of Sora. SMH. These people just don't know a good person when they see one.
@@Redxan600 Riku and Roxas’ character development and struggles are more interesting. Sora is … okay. A bit static for most of the games. He’s your basic good boi hero (which is fine). But I love Riku’s downfall and redemption, and subsequent struggles and triumphs. Way more compelling. Roxas (pre KH3) was a protagonist who was doomed to tragedy from the moment of his “birth.” All that he learned, overcame and the bonds he forged were never meant to be. No matter how hard he fought, how angry he was at his situation… he had to die, in order for our good boi Sora to live. Incredibly compelling.
@@zachanikwano And I can understand that. But Sora also went through development too. In KH3, he became mature throughout the game. He became independent and uses his own strength instead of his own friends' to protect the ones he loves. He knew the consequences for abusing the power of waking, but he didn't care if it meant saving Kairi.
@@Redxan600 We also can't forget Sora for majority of KH3 being pretty down at points in the game, due to his failure of the Mark Of Mastery in Dream Drop Distance, and not getting the Power Of Waking yet. It legit all came to ahead by the end of the game with him and the rest of the Guardians first battle at the Keyblade Graveyard. He literally broke down (I consider to be a really REALLY sad scene due to that) after the rest of the Guardians aside from him and Riku got taken away and him seeing Riku being the final one by sacrificing himself was the final straw that made Sora give up himself. People really love to not bring up moments like that when it comes to Sora. It was certainly different from his usual happy go lucky self prior to KH3.
Sora’s emotions and personality in KH2 were heavily influenced by Roxas. It was almost more like you were really playing as Roxas the entire time. As Diz said “You should share some of that hatred with Sora. He’s far too nice for his own good.”
I don't think so... Roxas just has a healthier way of interacting with his negative emotions: dealing with them as they come up and his natural inclination to lean on others when he needs the help. His downfall happened not because of anything he could have fixed mentally, but due to outside circumstances far beyond his control. Sora has _always_ had his own separate negative emotions. He just masks them all the time with a hefty layer of toxic positivity...until it eventually all compiles into "too much," and he shuts down completely.
Great video! While i understand that people might like his personality more in certain game or another, i do think that his story works way better if you see it as just one. From Dream Drop Distance, in my view he took it lightly because he tought everything was part of the test. And while the novels aren't fully canon, i liked how much more clear things were the KH3D novel, even with just some phrases more, basically, he did tought everything was a test, even Xemnas and all, but very later on when he meets YX again he got suspicious of what he says, and then he decided to keep going deeper on his dreams because this could help him find out what was going on, now unsure if it was still a test, simple, but imo way more clear
The Novels are one of the few things of the series I have yet to delve into but I did hear that they clear up some things. I could see Sora thinking that too but either way, at least it brought us the dream eaters. ❤
KH3 Sora is the best. He's peak. Reason why is because he's maturing. I would go on details as to why, but I think I'll just drop this video instead. Watch Titan trainer video about how not only the Disney worlds matter in the game, but also helps develop his character.
The only thing that bothers me about Sora is that sometimes I feel like the series plays up his ignorance as genuine stupidity. Here's two examples to show what I mean. *KH1:* Sora tries to stop Donald from leaving Deep Jungle before they can check for Riku and Kairi, accidentally crashing the ship in the process. He didn't mean to crash the ship, but he's worried about his friends and made a reckless move, something that is consistent with later points in the series where he does things like try to go into the Realm of Darkness without protection or even the whole bit with the Organization using Namine to gaslight him in Chain of Memories. *KH2:* Sora tries to check Ansem's computer for information on Riku and Kairi. When he can't find the information, he immediately tries to break it. This is after improperly tampering with the computer caused the MCP to begin aggressive actions against the resident of Hollow Bastion and after Leon stressed the importance of Ansem's computer and the information inside. While Sora might be frustrated, I can't see him allowing his anger to inconvenience other people he considers his friends. As a small aside, I do like a subtle detail related to the KH1 incident: as the series goes on, Sora goes on to become the main pilot of the Gummi Ship, meaning he does eventually learn from his mistake.
Personally, at the times, they make him blatantly dumb is most likely just writing faults. I don't personally like how he's written in DDD but that could be because from what I hear was that DDD was supposed to be a Riku only game before either Square or Disney asked that Sora be put in since it had been a while since the audience played as him at that point. With that said from the get-go, he was always seen as a somewhat hot-headed teenager him doing those things because he's frustrated shows more about his character than people realize.
In sofa’s defense, it wasn’t him who set off the MCP. Also, he just doesn’t know how computers work so it does make some sense that he would be getting annoyed by something he couldn’t figure out. While sora cares about his friends, it’s not ignorant for him to get frustrated or be reckless and occasionally somewhat obsessed. It’s just his flaws. And since he’s young, kids don’t know how to regulate their emotions. He’s not acting logically ignorant, rather emotionally ignorant.
Great video! I LOVE Chain of Memories Sora, so complex with the situation occurring around him. Definitely one of my favorite iterations of his character. Forgiving Namine, even after what she did, it really shows off his sweet cinnamon roll heart. Could be the lack of Roxas showing through, though, who knows.
He's my favorite as well. Even back at high school, I was never much of a fan of the emo heroes (except Batman, he's too badass not to like). I always preferred the good hearted cutie pies like him. And I think he's more mature than he lets on. I mean, if his anti form is canon, then the in-story explanation must have been his near death experience. It gave him perspective. But I suppose at the same time, he's a bit afraid of that part of his.
Sora isn't naturally happy-go-lucky, though. Right from the jump in KH 1, our first experiences with him are that he thinks deeply about the world around him and gives more gravity to dreams and possibilities than Riku, often getting teased for it. Yes, he isn't necessarily a more grounded person for it, but his key personality traits weren't optimism, they where a willingness to take things like faith and friendship more seriously than the "mature" Riku. It's this contemplative (notably not necessarily competent) Sora that gets lost as the series progresses. The Sora in III tends to play the clown too much. If he is still ruminating as deeply as he is in 1 and 2, I honestly really didn't see it in the events of 3.
Which Sora is your favorite? The one that started it all in Kingdom Hearts 1? Or to the more recent version of him in KH3 and MoM? Also no Data-Sora because he's technically a different character from the one we know. Maybe I might make a character video on all the data characters in Re:coded. Edit: I come back to over 730 views and jumped up from 9 subs to 25! I know it's not much but I still apretiate it! Thank you guys so much. New Video is coming eventually! Just got to write it first. :) Edit 2: WHERE ARE YOU ALL COMING FROM??????? Thanks for the love either way haha and the discussions we're having are great too! Short video coming soon about what we know on the beta testing for Missing Link. The next longer video is going to be on Deltarune. Hope to see you all there!
a little late but, CoM sora fror me, you could feel how frustrated he was, like for instance when larxene told him naminé was in the castle. he started to swing his keyblade all over the place, nearly breaking something. honestly heartbreaking to see sora like that. its his true self but it feels so off for someone you first meet. even goofy and donald picked it up. even they were concerned.
Swell video and fantastic transitions into each entry. My personal takeaway on this topic has always been that Sora is still a teenager (He's literally 14 in KH1). His character, reactions and overall development differing between entries makes sense. It isn't just solely from how the story is written.
I thought Sora in Chain of Memories was the best as a character. Throughout the series, he's kind of a stereotypical linear pure heart main character. Nothing special about him besides the fact that he's the main character and we're controlling him. He has zero personality. But in CoM he started feeling real emotions (even tho they were technically faked by Namine). He would get happy or sad or angry.
Sora got way more sensitive as time went on. & I am so happy you said Sora was so annoying on Chain of Memories! He was pissing me off soooooo bad on Chain of Memories like I was so over him. 😂😂😂 he didn’t even apologize to Donald & Goofy for treating them like that because they was right about how everything was going in the castle.
For me, KH2 Sora has my heart because of his attitude and sense of humor. I feel like he’s got a lot of sass and chemistry with Donald and Goofy that doesn’t feel as corny (for lack of a nicer word) as in KH3. I also think Haley did such a great job with line delivery for this game! I’ll always love Sora’s many iterations though.
If only they never interfered in DDD. But if this next arc is the last then maybe we can see him finally be one of if not then the strongest master there is.
Because he is naive if you heard what young Xehanort said “all that gallivanting through the sleeping worlds and yet you learned nothing “ Sora is abusing his powers to do what he want he even committed a nature taboo to save his friends and he committed another one for Kairi to save her .
I was kind of dissapointed by KH3 though, he's really serious in kh2 (for when he needs to be) it felt to me that kh3 Sora was really cheesy and immature, a stark contrast from the second mainline game. Even DDD showed a really serious Sora. That's just my opinion though
@@flyinryan1459 That's my problem with Sora in kh2, he's so aggressive towards others when he's supposed to be looking the good in people before the bad. Now sure, you can say that Roxas might have an influence, but the story tells it badly if it was the case.
@@Redxan600 That’s simply not true. Sora is plenty capable of seeing bad people for what they are. At the time KH2 was written and released, only KH1 and Chain of Memories existed, and THOSE had Sora act with much more nuance and varied reactions to people in general. He was the angrier he's EVER been in Chain of Memories, and in KH1 he wasn't afraid to fight Riku or call him stupid for thinking he could control the heartless. It's not until.. what, DDD? That Sora started feeling REALLY happy go lucky. In fact, if you were active in the fandom back then, most people who liked the character hated his portrayal in DDD because he seemed more naive and less mature overall compared to previous appearances.
@@DLxxx But with KH1, he is still forgiving. Sure, he called out on Riku for his stupidity, but he's still forgave him for what he did. Chain of Memories I could barely count since Sora doesn't remember what happened in Castle Oblivion. So all of that anger was more or less for nothing. He was agressive because he was obsessed with saving Namine and is confused as to why he and Riku are fighting over her since they can both save her. I've been in this Fandom since the beginning. And I would've agreed with you on DDD Sora, but after hearing more about his character, I understand why he is the way he is. He was overconfident about his skills. He wasn't dumb or anything like that. If anything, he was going back to his KH1 self where everything was simple for him, before he left his island on an adventure. After what happened to him, he slowly starts to mature in KH3. That's why I didn't like how aggressive he was in kh2. I like how in the Manga, he questions if Nobodies really have a heart instead of acting so aggressive to his enemies. Again, you could say it was Roxas who had an influence on him, but if that was the case, then it was told pretty poorly.
@@DLxxxSome fans will swallow anything with the right presentation. You're right on the money. However, people have gotten so used to the flanderized version of the character now that the original actually unsettles them. It's an odd state of affairs, to be sure.
I think the problem is that the average fan isn't going to play the - what I lovingly call "spinoffs" of the franchise to get these nuances. I don't think they should have released the story in this way and in this order. I feel, having grown up loving 1 and 2, I and a lot of others had to miss out on context because they split the forums in which the story was told. If you just play 1, 2, and 3, his character is rather flip-floppy, annoying, and questionable QUITE a bit. Granted, I don't delve into the fandom nor have I experienced all the story because I didn't have access to the other games. I've heard chain of memories in specific is pretty important, so I'm going to go through the games again with those on the list. My main issue is how freakin' long it took to release 3 lol I had long since given up on the story by that point and made me a little bitter of Sora and the story as a whole.
Tbh, even dedicated fans like myself hated the games on other systems. It was dumb but could have been a marketing thing. Still, everything now is all in one, albeit you would need to swap two games around. But I understand heavily on how this originally was thrown out.
I’m glad that Sora finally in super Super Smash brothers Ultimate As the final DLC fighter It just shows how much importance he is as a character next to Link(Legend of Zelda),Mario,Sonic,Cloud,Shulk(Xenoblade Chronicles),Pyra and Mythra and Pit(Kid icarus Uprising)!
@KingdomCakes I feel like the HD cutscenes don't explain it that well but it's specifically Riku after KH1 feels guilty for Destroying his home and Zexion used that against him and that spot on the island is a very important place to both Sora and Riku which is why Xion saw Riku's memories also from being in close proximity to him it's like Roxas vaguely recalling Sora's journey when he meets people Sora knew from all the Disney worlds
@@KingdomCakes Nah, its a me thing. I don't thinking fading from this existence is a death of any kind. Its a transition from one reality to another. A lot of people I've seen are "Sora is dead because he went the Final World before Quadratum" type of thinking. I think its more a situation where whatever holds people in one reality, some kind of invisible thread, is severed whenever you break a taboo of the current reality. Then you fade away, like MOM did. Its a me thing when it comes to theory crafting as well. I like to explore negative spaces/ill defined rules of the universe and the story itself. Like I see it being multiple realities instead reality/unreality and MOM is traveling to different realities to possibly create a Kingdom Hearts for each of these realities. If forced into a dichotomy of a only two sides of reality, I think one side is blessed with the Light of Kingdom Hearts and thus its magical while the other side is not blessed and so they developed with a more "realistic" form of technology without magic. I'm the out there guy to be honest.
I think for kh4 the should have a skill tree and bring back reaction commands also sora should be so desperate to get back to his friends that he’s willing to do ANYTHING to get back to them by any means dark magic or any magic that is. This is where the skill tree comes in depending on the choices you make sora either strays into the darkness and becomes more adept in dark magic or his faith in the light hardens therefore making him stronger. Sora should also learn about the master of masters or at least here of him making him curious as to who he is or he can meet him either or would be cool
Good takes, I'll agree that it's not exactly fair to compare each "version" of Sora throughout the games as each are all a part of building his character. I can say I like KH3 Sora the most because he's matured so much, but that was the entire point of his journey in previous games, he has his strong and weak moments to build up his arc. And yes even though DDD Sora has a lot of weird writing/dialogue (in my opinion it's due to the writers compensating for not having Donald and Goofy there enough for the trio to bounce off each other, so it's like they wrote lines that would work better for D&G but had Sora say them), I agree that he still has some great highlights in DDD, such as his talk with Roxas and how he believes Roxas deserves to be his own person as well as his reaction to Riku passing the Mark of Mastery rather than himself, to contrast with Terra and Aqua's test and demonstrate the core of Sora's personality. All in all, I may have characters in the series I like more than Sora, but he's still hard to dislike, he's like the kind of friend we all wish we had.
Hey guys just a quick update, I have the next video recorded just need to edit it! So expect just a quick short video related to KH on here soon from my other channel before the next one!
I liked Sora's growth in the Kingdom Hearts series but man, his two friends got cucked so hard in KH3 because any of their characteristics from the previous games especially Kairi, got liked completely erased and felt like 2 dimensional character with no special characteristic, it felt like they became robots in KH3 running on auto pilot
Honestly sora is either more "fun" in Com when he is just downright ruthless or in 3 that pacing asside he is kinda self actualizes and starts to be less reactive.
KH2 Sora is the best, KH3 Sora wasn't given the proper amount of screentime or importance. KH3 Sora should've been the best (he has a penchant for actually *thinking*) but goddamnit..
He actually is the best in KH3. He's grown and matured throughout the game. I want you to watch Titan trainer video about Sora's journey in KH3 and how his character develops.
Si, Sora es un buen amigo, le afecta no haber pasado el examen, pero prioridades, Felicita y se alegra por Riku, ese es un buen amigo. No como Terra y Ventus, que no Hola le dijeron a Aqua, es mas hasta la critican por ello. Malos amigos. Aprendan de Sora:3
I think you should read "KH: Sea-Change of Fate", in case you're unsatisfied with some things in canon. In it, Kairi breaks from her script at the end of "KH 1", joining Sora, Donald and Goofy in their adventures. BTW, "Breaking the script" isn't an exaggeration. The Fates, from "Hercules", comment on how she broke multiple prophecies when she decided not to stay at Traverse Town, gaining her Keyblade (Naminé gains one too, btw). Oh ! And the Disney characters FINALLY become useful and actually likable. Now, a few warnings: -The author uses some elements from the manga, so don't be surprised at some heavier takes on the story; -Marluxia is a pedophile; -There's some polygamy (and the author is open to multiple forms of sexuality), but it actually contributes for multiple characters' development; -Axel and Xion are officially recognized as trans in the series (on a personal note, I could actually see that as canon, kinda wished it was, I may ask the author if I could use the trans perspective); -You'll find Aqua's ship in this fic to be...unique. But personally, I could see it too. I ship Cortana and MasterChief. Can't really judge after that; -Not sure if there's something else I should tell you, because I can only think of good things, and those are a surprise I want you to find and experience for yourself.
Yeah, not the first time I heard this. But this is the first time I made a video like this, hopefully, the next one will be better! Thanks for the feedback :D
Kingdom Hearts one is the best directed Sora. In II, he became more snarky and rude, which is typical for a teenager, but it doesn't properly fit Sora's character. Example: "You're nobodies! You don't mean anything!" In III, they toddler-fied him, cause Disney shoved the words "child friendly" down Square Enix's throat. It makes NO FUCKING SENSE. He's older, so you'd think he'd mature better. Nope~
Sora Was only like that because Roxas was influencing him. His sass and snark was something that wasn't present in ANY of the games before and after KH2. Notice how when he was like that in KH2 it was only towards Organization members, in which Roxas hated at that point.
This video helped me see that Sora has more character development than I’ve given him credit for. His progression from KH1 to KH2 is pretty striking and it’s interesting to think about how Roxas’ experiences likely influenced him. However, that’s when it falls off the rails for me. I don’t understand how DDD Sora reverts to a more childlike personality. I guess it has something to do with how he and Riku take on younger forms in the game but I don’t agree with that plot direction. It’s convoluted for no reason. KH3 Sora is fine except that the search for the power of waking really felt like arbitrary nonsense just to keep Sora on the sidelines while everything else was getting ready. It felt like nothing Sora did mattered until the endgame.
I love Sora. He's my favorite. Even back at high school, I was never much of a fan of the emo heroes (except Batman, he's too badass not to like). I always preferred the good hearted cutie pies like him. And I think he's more mature than he lets on. I mean, if his anti form is canon, then the in-story explanation must have been his near death experience. It gave him perspective. But I suppose at the same, he's a bit afraid of that part of his.
I've also love the outgoing types, too, that I try my best to be one... Doesn't mean I'm good at it, but ya know. Also, I think anti is Canon, but I always thought of it as a lust for power going too far, putting him in that form, then the form you wanted.
Because KH3 Sora has been flanderized to be kinda dumb and too nice. He’s Disney jesus and the game has become all about him while leaving all other characters in the dust.
Sora still needs to have his character developed. KH3 showed that he is maturing. I like to show a video by Titan trainer who shows that not only the Disney worlds provided a narrative, but also shows how Sora developes.
Sora found out that the Organization members were victims as well; they were lied to, told they didn’t have hearts. Of course…who knows what Xigbar actually knew and didn’t know the whole time…
I still think that KH2 sora looks older than KH3 sora or is that just me but KH4 sora definitely looks older than all of them😅not saying it's a bad thing but why do they make his age so young like bro looks like he's in his 20's in KH4 guess it doesn't matter🤔
Kh3 sora was more mature when he was battle tested in the last sequence of the game which made him in my opinion a stronger character for being strong in his convictions on all levels making him the most confident he’s been
Sora in kingdom hearts 2 felt out of character at times. Like how he was so hostile towards organization 13 and he's someone that tries to see the good before the bad in someone. He was even going in on demyx, a lot of people say that might have been because of Roxas inside influencing him. But kingdom hearts 3 you can see he did matured some especially with his last words towards xemnas.
People seem to hate on how kh3 sora was a lot more friendly towards the org members but i thinks thats because in DDD he learns that the organizations nobodies have hearts and that they can become people again. While in kh2 he was told they werent supposed to exist as if they were like heartless. And it doesnt help that they kept taunting him about the fate of riku and the kidnapping if kairi.
Yeah i would be unfriendly to ppl that kidnapped my friends too
That and the low level Roxas influence of not being especially happy with the Org. Members in general.
Eh.. That doesn't change their actions. If anything, it means the more guilty members of the organization have even _less_ of a reason to be empathize with.
@@DLxxx yeah but sora is they type of person that would forgive pretty much anybody
@@kyl0ooart Not necessarily! He killed almost all of the original Organization members with his own two hands. He chose to destroy Larxene, for example, because she was a sadistic manipulator that tried to kill him and hurt Namine. And showed no reaction or remorse when she died (same with Marluxia).
He also _attempted_ to kill Roxas during their duel for no other reason than because he was attacked. Sora has always been characterized as ruthless toward his enemies (especially in the earlier games). He isn't so forgiving that he'd sympathize with everyone just because they're people. As was said in KH2:
_"Why is it that you loathe us who teeter on the edge of nothing? Those who were turned away from both light, and dark. Never given a choice."_
_"That's simple. It's because you mess up our worlds."_
I'll add that not just in KH2, but pretty consistently throughout his playable appearances we see that Sora has a habit of wearing a smile to mask his frustration, sadness or weariness. He often tries to hide those feelings from Donald and Goofy, with limited success, and I think it's a nuance that a lot of KH fans either tend to overlook or just assign to their favorite version of the character.
I agree. It's why he's my favorite character. I can relate to that struggle. I hope we can see more of that side of him.
Having a moment were sora breaks from all the pressure would actually be an awesome unexpected twist for the series
Something a long the lines of "i always try to be positive but this time it just dosent work" shows up that he is growing up
Of course he would than later overcome that
literally the moment before he stabs himself he smiles 🥺
@@dimentioo Based Makoto PFP.
@@ZgermanGuy. I'd argue this happens in every numbered KH title, when Sora loses the Keyblade in KH1, when Sora learns that using the Keyblade would help the Organization in KH2, and then right after Kairi gets caught by the Demon Tide toward the end of KH3. Sora doesn't explicitly say that his positivity failed the situation but he just straight gives up and someone else has to step in to get Sora back on his feet and moving again.
I never thought about how much Roxas’ feelings influenced Sora in KH2, the only time it truly clicked was when the tear is shed as he is leaving twilight town
There's a lot you can miss honestly first time through. Like his anger had always seemed a bit uncharacteristic, but when put into prospective of the intro and 358... It makes sense!
I love Sora from the start of his journey, all the way to the end of kingdom hearts 3. Sora is my favorite throughout the entire kingdom hearts franchise.
He's my favorite character too in the series though he's tied with Player and Ephemer from Union X.
Low standards.
@@SonicMegaKing I don't have low standards. I love Sora as a character. Simple as that.
@@SonicMegaKing Low intelligence.
@@KingdomCakes I actually cosplayed as Sora for Halloween a few years ago
I’ve had a journey with Sora as a character.
I actually started the series with Days. And between that, and just my own preferences, Roxas ended up being my favorite protagonist of the series. To the point where I was kinda angry alongside him when the series said “No. Sora is the real protagonist.” It really drove home the tragedy of Roxas’ story for me, but also made me approach the other games with a little bitterness at first.
Don’t get me wrong, I never disliked them, or even Sora. But there was a part of me that was always wishing it was Roxas instead.
But over time I grew to appreciate Sora as a character, especially after finally playing Re:CoM. (Skipped it at first with just a tl;dr) The way he interacted with the characters of that game, especially Namine, showed me something that gave me a new appreciation for Sora.
He’s not stupid, even if he occasionally has his moments. And he’s not naive, either. He’s stubborn.
When he trusts others, it’s not because he doesn’t think things through at all. And it’s not because he’s too naive to consider that they might betray him. Instead, it’s because in spite of it all, he stubbornly chooses kindness. Chooses to believe in people.
And it’s that hard-headedness that inspires other characters to live up to the trust he places in them. That stubbornness that makes them want to believe as well.
And it’s that quality of his, not his strength, not his cleverness or lack thereof, but the ability to inspire others to be better that makes him the protagonist the series needs.
I’ll always be a little sad that it’s not Roxas’ story. But I at least know now that it’s in good hands.
Would you like a fanfic focused on Roxas as the protagonist ? There's an excellent "KH" fanfic named "The Twilight Will" in which he refused to merge back with Sora, resulting in him escaping to worlds beyond Kingdom Hearts domain, meaning these worlds are made jointly of darkness, light and nothingness, resulting in some of them being darker.
The name is "KH: The Twilight Will". The worlds include:
-Bioshock: Infinite;
-Jak and Dexter;
-God of War (original saga);
-There are more, but you might not know these.
In case you need further convincing, there's a world that is a video game version of the original version of "Alice in Wonderland".
We also get the Nobodies explored in greater and clearer detail, not to mention he and Riku have a rematch.
The nature of the hearts is also expanded, since these worlds did not belong to the original world from the age of Fairy Tales, therefore being subject to VERY different rules of how a heart operates. For example, one of the hearts Roxas connects to looks like some sort of giant neon sign. And Sora's condition as a heartless of light also receives more importance.
I've always loved both my boys and wished they became something like joint protagonists.
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I never forgave them, you know ? DiZ and Riku... For what they did to Xion and Roxas, without even seeking alternatives... I still think they merely deserve an honorable end at best.
@@JabamiLain What alternative would you have suggested in the limited time they had before Xemnas achieved Godhood?
You forgot that in Birth By Sleep, Sora's newly born heart seeks out Ventus and completes his Heart.
How could I Forget? That's way to important! Guess it'll have to be in the Roxas and Ven Videos eventually.
Sora in kingdom hearts 1 will always have a special place in my heart, but I love kingdom hearts 2 sora as well
All versions have their worth in character imo. Even with my grevences with DDD's portrayal of Sora, you can see him be a bit more empathetic for Nobodies. Or at least those like Xigbar or Xemnas.
I like his development! So to me it feels wrong to say that one version of Sora is my favorite. He's a great character and he changes over the course of the plot, that's enough, I think. He's adorable and I think we need more main characters like him
That's fair. I do agree on needing more characters like him though. Here's hoping the next arc brings a great story and development for him and the rest of the destiny trio!
yeah, it's hard for me to say there even are different versions of sora bc to me, sora is sora. though com sora was a lot more annoying than usual, at least there's a reason for it. it's not like he had a choice, the organization was using naminé to mess with his head and stuff.
I think something I like about Days is that it shows Sora from a disconnected view point where he feels like a legendary hero while also making him something that a person who's first game is days dread because he is Xemnas's goal with both Xion and Roxas.
Days character's stories are great. The way they show how everyone is (mostly in the game anyway) is one of the best ways KH has shown the characters. Some are super subtle others are outright.
Exactly ! My first introduction to the series was the kh2 manga (pretty unusual, I know), I immediately connected to Roxas and felt a sense of dread when they kept mentioning he had to go back to this "Sora" person, since I had a lack of context to who he was
An angle I tend to look at Sora with is the idea that he has no idea who he actually is and so he just adapts and behaves the way others want. Remember, he has been connected to Ven (who has many of Sora's characteristics and quirks that may have been Ven's originally because he came first and had an actual personality before Sora was able to really be a person) since he was born and then at only four years old (when most children really start to develop a personality) he took Ven completely into his heart. That had to have had an effect on him.
We see as early as KH1 that Sora adapts to people around him with the infamous "no frowning, no sad face. this ship runs on happy faces!" scene where Donald and goofy basically tell him to not show his actual feelings because their mission needs him to be happy, at least outwardly. Sora throughout the games struggles to keep on a happy facade, to the point where you can tell he is ignoring and brushing his feelings aside, never taking his own feelings and how others treat him too seriously. But we know they affect him.
Sora, at the end of the day, is a child that cares so much for other people that he ignores his own problems (both because he sees them as not as important, and also perhaps because at this point he doesn't know how to deal with them) and focuses on helping others even at risk to himself. He is constantly criticised and held to impossible standards, with his incredible achievements downplayed while the others around him who have done way less get far more praise. Sora deserves way more love because if I were him, at fifteen/sixteen, I would've probably had a breakdown far earlier than the bad ending.
Sora the boy who taught me optimism. The boy who taught me to have a big heart. These people whom say he has no personality, y’all are crazy. This boy is a fucking hero!
I can’t honestly listen to anyone who’d randomly dislike Sora, he’s so kind.
KH2 sora is the worst
@@RareT888ooof, that’s a rare take considering how many people love kh2 lol
It honestly surprises me how Sora's character development is so underrated by the Kingdom Hearts fandom, to the point I hear them say he has no character development.
I hear that all the time from a friend who doesn't like Kingdom Hearts. It's mostly jokes though but there are people who look at it and see nothing when there is character growth. All of them do.
It's mostly like the Riku and Roxas fanboys/fangirls who says this. And I know they're the same ones who said that they should be the main protagonist instead of Sora. SMH. These people just don't know a good person when they see one.
@@Redxan600
Riku and Roxas’ character development and struggles are more interesting. Sora is … okay. A bit static for most of the games. He’s your basic good boi hero (which is fine).
But I love Riku’s downfall and redemption, and subsequent struggles and triumphs. Way more compelling.
Roxas (pre KH3) was a protagonist who was doomed to tragedy from the moment of his “birth.” All that he learned, overcame and the bonds he forged were never meant to be. No matter how hard he fought, how angry he was at his situation… he had to die, in order for our good boi Sora to live. Incredibly compelling.
@@zachanikwano And I can understand that. But Sora also went through development too. In KH3, he became mature throughout the game. He became independent and uses his own strength instead of his own friends' to protect the ones he loves. He knew the consequences for abusing the power of waking, but he didn't care if it meant saving Kairi.
@@Redxan600 We also can't forget Sora for majority of KH3 being pretty down at points in the game, due to his failure of the Mark Of Mastery in Dream Drop Distance, and not getting the Power Of Waking yet. It legit all came to ahead by the end of the game with him and the rest of the Guardians first battle at the Keyblade Graveyard. He literally broke down (I consider to be a really REALLY sad scene due to that) after the rest of the Guardians aside from him and Riku got taken away and him seeing Riku being the final one by sacrificing himself was the final straw that made Sora give up himself. People really love to not bring up moments like that when it comes to Sora. It was certainly different from his usual happy go lucky self prior to KH3.
Sora’s emotions and personality in KH2 were heavily influenced by Roxas. It was almost more like you were really playing as Roxas the entire time. As Diz said “You should share some of that hatred with Sora. He’s far too nice for his own good.”
Yes roxas experience made him edgy 😂
I don't think so... Roxas just has a healthier way of interacting with his negative emotions: dealing with them as they come up and his natural inclination to lean on others when he needs the help. His downfall happened not because of anything he could have fixed mentally, but due to outside circumstances far beyond his control.
Sora has _always_ had his own separate negative emotions. He just masks them all the time with a hefty layer of toxic positivity...until it eventually all compiles into "too much," and he shuts down completely.
@@HaunaMyKiki I agree.
Great video! While i understand that people might like his personality more in certain game or another, i do think that his story works way better if you see it as just one.
From Dream Drop Distance, in my view he took it lightly because he tought everything was part of the test.
And while the novels aren't fully canon, i liked how much more clear things were the KH3D novel, even with just some phrases more, basically, he did tought everything was a test, even Xemnas and all, but very later on when he meets YX again he got suspicious of what he says, and then he decided to keep going deeper on his dreams because this could help him find out what was going on, now unsure if it was still a test, simple, but imo way more clear
The Novels are one of the few things of the series I have yet to delve into but I did hear that they clear up some things. I could see Sora thinking that too but either way, at least it brought us the dream eaters. ❤
I hope Sora will still be his happy-go-lucky self in KH4, more mature of course, but part of his charm is his super happy self! :D
To me, I think it's pointless to argue which version of Sora is the best or worst simply because he's the same person, but he matured.
You forgot to mention that Sora first connected with Ventus during the BBS prologue when Sora was still a newborn.
KH3 Sora is the best. He's peak. Reason why is because he's maturing. I would go on details as to why, but I think I'll just drop this video instead. Watch Titan trainer video about how not only the Disney worlds matter in the game, but also helps develop his character.
The only thing that bothers me about Sora is that sometimes I feel like the series plays up his ignorance as genuine stupidity. Here's two examples to show what I mean.
*KH1:* Sora tries to stop Donald from leaving Deep Jungle before they can check for Riku and Kairi, accidentally crashing the ship in the process. He didn't mean to crash the ship, but he's worried about his friends and made a reckless move, something that is consistent with later points in the series where he does things like try to go into the Realm of Darkness without protection or even the whole bit with the Organization using Namine to gaslight him in Chain of Memories.
*KH2:* Sora tries to check Ansem's computer for information on Riku and Kairi. When he can't find the information, he immediately tries to break it. This is after improperly tampering with the computer caused the MCP to begin aggressive actions against the resident of Hollow Bastion and after Leon stressed the importance of Ansem's computer and the information inside. While Sora might be frustrated, I can't see him allowing his anger to inconvenience other people he considers his friends.
As a small aside, I do like a subtle detail related to the KH1 incident: as the series goes on, Sora goes on to become the main pilot of the Gummi Ship, meaning he does eventually learn from his mistake.
Personally, at the times, they make him blatantly dumb is most likely just writing faults. I don't personally like how he's written in DDD but that could be because from what I hear was that DDD was supposed to be a Riku only game before either Square or Disney asked that Sora be put in since it had been a while since the audience played as him at that point. With that said from the get-go, he was always seen as a somewhat hot-headed teenager him doing those things because he's frustrated shows more about his character than people realize.
In sofa’s defense, it wasn’t him who set off the MCP. Also, he just doesn’t know how computers work so it does make some sense that he would be getting annoyed by something he couldn’t figure out.
While sora cares about his friends, it’s not ignorant for him to get frustrated or be reckless and occasionally somewhat obsessed. It’s just his flaws. And since he’s young, kids don’t know how to regulate their emotions. He’s not acting logically ignorant, rather emotionally ignorant.
Great video! I LOVE Chain of Memories Sora, so complex with the situation occurring around him. Definitely one of my favorite iterations of his character. Forgiving Namine, even after what she did, it really shows off his sweet cinnamon roll heart. Could be the lack of Roxas showing through, though, who knows.
Sora going to always be my favorite character out of kingdom and hearts
He's my favorite as well. Even back at high school, I was never much of a fan of the emo heroes (except Batman, he's too badass not to like). I always preferred the good hearted cutie pies like him.
And I think he's more mature than he lets on. I mean, if his anti form is canon, then the in-story explanation must have been his near death experience. It gave him perspective. But I suppose at the same time, he's a bit afraid of that part of his.
Sora isn't naturally happy-go-lucky, though. Right from the jump in KH 1, our first experiences with him are that he thinks deeply about the world around him and gives more gravity to dreams and possibilities than Riku, often getting teased for it. Yes, he isn't necessarily a more grounded person for it, but his key personality traits weren't optimism, they where a willingness to take things like faith and friendship more seriously than the "mature" Riku. It's this contemplative (notably not necessarily competent) Sora that gets lost as the series progresses. The Sora in III tends to play the clown too much. If he is still ruminating as deeply as he is in 1 and 2, I honestly really didn't see it in the events of 3.
Which Sora is your favorite? The one that started it all in Kingdom Hearts 1? Or to the more recent version of him in KH3 and MoM? Also no Data-Sora because he's technically a different character from the one we know. Maybe I might make a character video on all the data characters in Re:coded.
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Kh3 sora because he has most character development out of all of them.
@@danieltinsleykhvsff9622 Agreed!
It's an objectively false answer but my first game in the series was DDD and as such DDD Sora is THE Sora to me.
KH3 Sora for the win!!!
a little late but, CoM sora fror me, you could feel how frustrated he was, like for instance when larxene told him naminé was in the castle. he started to swing his keyblade all over the place, nearly breaking something. honestly heartbreaking to see sora like that. its his true self but it feels so off for someone you first meet. even goofy and donald picked it up. even they were concerned.
I think KH 1 Sora personality was the best. He was actually more grounded
i love sora so much
Swell video and fantastic transitions into each entry. My personal takeaway on this topic has always been that Sora is still a teenager (He's literally 14 in KH1). His character, reactions and overall development differing between entries makes sense. It isn't just solely from how the story is written.
That's probably the best way to look at it.
I thought Sora in Chain of Memories was the best as a character. Throughout the series, he's kind of a stereotypical linear pure heart main character. Nothing special about him besides the fact that he's the main character and we're controlling him. He has zero personality. But in CoM he started feeling real emotions (even tho they were technically faked by Namine). He would get happy or sad or angry.
Sora got way more sensitive as time went on. & I am so happy you said Sora was so annoying on Chain of Memories! He was pissing me off soooooo bad on Chain of Memories like I was so over him. 😂😂😂 he didn’t even apologize to Donald & Goofy for treating them like that because they was right about how everything was going in the castle.
He got real😂
For me, KH2 Sora has my heart because of his attitude and sense of humor. I feel like he’s got a lot of sass and chemistry with Donald and Goofy that doesn’t feel as corny (for lack of a nicer word) as in KH3. I also think Haley did such a great job with line delivery for this game! I’ll always love Sora’s many iterations though.
If it wasn't for Organization 13, Sora would be a keyblade master
I don’t think he will
@@skarlet0735 Reason? Besides interference.
If only they never interfered in DDD. But if this next arc is the last then maybe we can see him finally be one of if not then the strongest master there is.
@@KingdomCakes That's what I'm saying!
Because he is naive if you heard what young Xehanort said “all that gallivanting through the sleeping worlds and yet you learned nothing “ Sora is abusing his powers to do what he want he even committed a nature taboo to save his friends and he committed another one for Kairi to save her .
KH3 Sora is the best because his maturity & kindness show brilliantly through his scenes. Plus he's still as adorable as he was back in KH1.
I was kind of dissapointed by KH3 though, he's really serious in kh2 (for when he needs to be) it felt to me that kh3 Sora was really cheesy and immature, a stark contrast from the second mainline game. Even DDD showed a really serious Sora. That's just my opinion though
@@flyinryan1459 That's my problem with Sora in kh2, he's so aggressive towards others when he's supposed to be looking the good in people before the bad. Now sure, you can say that Roxas might have an influence, but the story tells it badly if it was the case.
@@Redxan600 That’s simply not true. Sora is plenty capable of seeing bad people for what they are. At the time KH2 was written and released, only KH1 and Chain of Memories existed, and THOSE had Sora act with much more nuance and varied reactions to people in general. He was the angrier he's EVER been in Chain of Memories, and in KH1 he wasn't afraid to fight Riku or call him stupid for thinking he could control the heartless.
It's not until.. what, DDD? That Sora started feeling REALLY happy go lucky. In fact, if you were active in the fandom back then, most people who liked the character hated his portrayal in DDD because he seemed more naive and less mature overall compared to previous appearances.
@@DLxxx But with KH1, he is still forgiving. Sure, he called out on Riku for his stupidity, but he's still forgave him for what he did.
Chain of Memories I could barely count since Sora doesn't remember what happened in Castle Oblivion. So all of that anger was more or less for nothing. He was agressive because he was obsessed with saving Namine and is confused as to why he and Riku are fighting over her since they can both save her.
I've been in this Fandom since the beginning. And I would've agreed with you on DDD Sora, but after hearing more about his character, I understand why he is the way he is.
He was overconfident about his skills. He wasn't dumb or anything like that. If anything, he was going back to his KH1 self where everything was simple for him, before he left his island on an adventure. After what happened to him, he slowly starts to mature in KH3.
That's why I didn't like how aggressive he was in kh2. I like how in the Manga, he questions if Nobodies really have a heart instead of acting so aggressive to his enemies. Again, you could say it was Roxas who had an influence on him, but if that was the case, then it was told pretty poorly.
@@DLxxxSome fans will swallow anything with the right presentation. You're right on the money. However, people have gotten so used to the flanderized version of the character now that the original actually unsettles them. It's an odd state of affairs, to be sure.
I think the problem is that the average fan isn't going to play the - what I lovingly call "spinoffs" of the franchise to get these nuances. I don't think they should have released the story in this way and in this order. I feel, having grown up loving 1 and 2, I and a lot of others had to miss out on context because they split the forums in which the story was told. If you just play 1, 2, and 3, his character is rather flip-floppy, annoying, and questionable QUITE a bit. Granted, I don't delve into the fandom nor have I experienced all the story because I didn't have access to the other games. I've heard chain of memories in specific is pretty important, so I'm going to go through the games again with those on the list.
My main issue is how freakin' long it took to release 3 lol I had long since given up on the story by that point and made me a little bitter of Sora and the story as a whole.
Tbh, even dedicated fans like myself hated the games on other systems. It was dumb but could have been a marketing thing. Still, everything now is all in one, albeit you would need to swap two games around. But I understand heavily on how this originally was thrown out.
I’m glad that Sora finally in super Super Smash brothers Ultimate As the final DLC fighter It just shows how much importance he is as a character next to Link(Legend of Zelda),Mario,Sonic,Cloud,Shulk(Xenoblade Chronicles),Pyra and Mythra and Pit(Kid icarus Uprising)!
The days thing was more Xion connecting to Riku's memories and Roxas by proxy
That makes a lot more sense. I don't know why I always interpreted it as all of them feeling those memories and emotions. Thanks for the clear-up!
@KingdomCakes I feel like the HD cutscenes don't explain it that well but it's specifically Riku after KH1 feels guilty for Destroying his home and Zexion used that against him and that spot on the island is a very important place to both Sora and Riku which is why Xion saw Riku's memories also from being in close proximity to him it's like Roxas vaguely recalling Sora's journey when he meets people Sora knew from all the Disney worlds
he looks goofy in kh3
You seen what it was going to look like before? I don't mind the style we got now but the older one was a great evolution imo
I miss kh1 Sora because he was relatable. He wasn’t always smiling and hopeful.
Me too
I really like your video, but I argue about fading equaling death. Other than that one little thing, really great video.
Yeah, I think I got my word mixed up when I said "essentially die" what I really meant was something like dying. I'll try to be more clear next time.
@@KingdomCakes Nah, its a me thing. I don't thinking fading from this existence is a death of any kind. Its a transition from one reality to another. A lot of people I've seen are "Sora is dead because he went the Final World before Quadratum" type of thinking. I think its more a situation where whatever holds people in one reality, some kind of invisible thread, is severed whenever you break a taboo of the current reality. Then you fade away, like MOM did.
Its a me thing when it comes to theory crafting as well. I like to explore negative spaces/ill defined rules of the universe and the story itself. Like I see it being multiple realities instead reality/unreality and MOM is traveling to different realities to possibly create a Kingdom Hearts for each of these realities. If forced into a dichotomy of a only two sides of reality, I think one side is blessed with the Light of Kingdom Hearts and thus its magical while the other side is not blessed and so they developed with a more "realistic" form of technology without magic. I'm the out there guy to be honest.
Kh2 my favorite, the music and characters
I think for kh4 the should have a skill tree and bring back reaction commands also sora should be so desperate to get back to his friends that he’s willing to do ANYTHING to get back to them by any means dark magic or any magic that is. This is where the skill tree comes in depending on the choices you make sora either strays into the darkness and becomes more adept in dark magic or his faith in the light hardens therefore making him stronger. Sora should also learn about the master of masters or at least here of him making him curious as to who he is or he can meet him either or would be cool
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PLEASE DONT NERF HIM AGAIN ITS SO ANNOYING JUST MAKE THE MONSTERS STRONGER
@@Snoozy570dawg WDYM by again, he got buffed in every numbered game
I haven’t gotten a chance to play the first two an the other ones as well yet I’ve gotten to played kingdom hearts 3
These headcanons wild
Good takes, I'll agree that it's not exactly fair to compare each "version" of Sora throughout the games as each are all a part of building his character. I can say I like KH3 Sora the most because he's matured so much, but that was the entire point of his journey in previous games, he has his strong and weak moments to build up his arc. And yes even though DDD Sora has a lot of weird writing/dialogue (in my opinion it's due to the writers compensating for not having Donald and Goofy there enough for the trio to bounce off each other, so it's like they wrote lines that would work better for D&G but had Sora say them), I agree that he still has some great highlights in DDD, such as his talk with Roxas and how he believes Roxas deserves to be his own person as well as his reaction to Riku passing the Mark of Mastery rather than himself, to contrast with Terra and Aqua's test and demonstrate the core of Sora's personality. All in all, I may have characters in the series I like more than Sora, but he's still hard to dislike, he's like the kind of friend we all wish we had.
Hey guys just a quick update, I have the next video recorded just need to edit it! So expect just a quick short video related to KH on here soon from my other channel before the next one!
I liked Sora's growth in the Kingdom Hearts series but man, his two friends got cucked so hard in KH3 because any of their characteristics from the previous games especially Kairi, got liked completely erased and felt like 2 dimensional character with no special characteristic, it felt like they became robots in KH3 running on auto pilot
What I don’t understand is how he’s able to have 13 bullies in one game trying to torture him mentally and he’s able to still have love inside him.
Ooohhh.. now do one of Kairi! oh wai-
Honestly sora is either more "fun" in Com when he is just downright ruthless or in 3 that pacing asside he is kinda self actualizes and starts to be less reactive.
He's my role model
KH2 Sora is the best, KH3 Sora wasn't given the proper amount of screentime or importance. KH3 Sora should've been the best (he has a penchant for actually *thinking*) but goddamnit..
He actually is the best in KH3. He's grown and matured throughout the game. I want you to watch Titan trainer video about Sora's journey in KH3 and how his character develops.
Si, Sora es un buen amigo, le afecta no haber pasado el examen, pero prioridades, Felicita y se alegra por Riku, ese es un buen amigo. No como Terra y Ventus, que no Hola le dijeron a Aqua, es mas hasta la critican por ello. Malos amigos. Aprendan de Sora:3
I think you should read "KH: Sea-Change of Fate", in case you're unsatisfied with some things in canon. In it, Kairi breaks from her script at the end of "KH 1", joining Sora, Donald and Goofy in their adventures. BTW, "Breaking the script" isn't an exaggeration. The Fates, from "Hercules", comment on how she broke multiple prophecies when she decided not to stay at Traverse Town, gaining her Keyblade (Naminé gains one too, btw). Oh ! And the Disney characters FINALLY become useful and actually likable.
Now, a few warnings:
-The author uses some elements from the manga, so don't be surprised at some heavier takes on the story;
-Marluxia is a pedophile;
-There's some polygamy (and the author is open to multiple forms of sexuality), but it actually contributes for multiple characters' development;
-Axel and Xion are officially recognized as trans in the series (on a personal note, I could actually see that as canon, kinda wished it was, I may ask the author if I could use the trans perspective);
-You'll find Aqua's ship in this fic to be...unique. But personally, I could see it too. I ship Cortana and MasterChief. Can't really judge after that;
-Not sure if there's something else I should tell you, because I can only think of good things, and those are a surprise I want you to find and experience for yourself.
Fun fact : if xxxtentaction kid turned out to be a girl he was going to name his kid sora from kingdom of hearts which is his favorite viedo game
Loved the video. Volume too low though.
Yeah, not the first time I heard this. But this is the first time I made a video like this, hopefully, the next one will be better! Thanks for the feedback :D
Sora was the best when he was Roxas
Kingdom Hearts one is the best directed Sora.
In II, he became more snarky and rude, which is typical for a teenager, but it doesn't properly fit Sora's character. Example: "You're nobodies! You don't mean anything!"
In III, they toddler-fied him, cause Disney shoved the words "child friendly" down Square Enix's throat. It makes NO FUCKING SENSE. He's older, so you'd think he'd mature better. Nope~
Sora Was only like that because Roxas was influencing him. His sass and snark was something that wasn't present in ANY of the games before and after KH2. Notice how when he was like that in KH2 it was only towards Organization members, in which Roxas hated at that point.
KHDDD feels like sora’s character progression took a nose dive and actually regressed
This video helped me see that Sora has more character development than I’ve given him credit for. His progression from KH1 to KH2 is pretty striking and it’s interesting to think about how Roxas’ experiences likely influenced him.
However, that’s when it falls off the rails for me. I don’t understand how DDD Sora reverts to a more childlike personality. I guess it has something to do with how he and Riku take on younger forms in the game but I don’t agree with that plot direction. It’s convoluted for no reason. KH3 Sora is fine except that the search for the power of waking really felt like arbitrary nonsense just to keep Sora on the sidelines while everything else was getting ready. It felt like nothing Sora did mattered until the endgame.
I love Sora. He's my favorite. Even back at high school, I was never much of a fan of the emo heroes (except Batman, he's too badass not to like). I always preferred the good hearted cutie pies like him.
And I think he's more mature than he lets on. I mean, if his anti form is canon, then the in-story explanation must have been his near death experience. It gave him perspective. But I suppose at the same, he's a bit afraid of that part of his.
I've also love the outgoing types, too, that I try my best to be one... Doesn't mean I'm good at it, but ya know. Also, I think anti is Canon, but I always thought of it as a lust for power going too far, putting him in that form, then the form you wanted.
@@KingdomCakesmakes sense.
Because KH3 Sora has been flanderized to be kinda dumb and too nice. He’s Disney jesus and the game has become all about him while leaving all other characters in the dust.
Sora still needs to have his character developed. KH3 showed that he is maturing. I like to show a video by Titan trainer who shows that not only the Disney worlds provided a narrative, but also shows how Sora developes.
The volume equalization is terrible in this video you talk too quietly and then saw a screams on the intervals 🥴
I'll try to fix that next time.
Next video please up you volume
It sounds fine on my end. I'll try lowering the volume of the music next time see if that helps. Thanks for looking out though!
I like Sora. Riku has a better character developement. But my favourite character is Aqua
All equally great characters!
Summary: he started of good but ended in shit.
Best Sora is CoM Sora
Sora found out that the Organization members were victims as well; they were lied to, told they didn’t have hearts.
Of course…who knows what Xigbar actually knew and didn’t know the whole time…
I still think that KH2 sora looks older than KH3 sora or is that just me but KH4 sora definitely looks older than all of them😅not saying it's a bad thing but why do they make his age so young like bro looks like he's in his 20's in KH4 guess it doesn't matter🤔
KH is a mess and tetsuya is a madman
Sora peaked in kh2, in kh3 he just stands still and cries
He was great in 2. But I loved him in 3 as well. Personally my favorite so far but let's see what 4 can bring us.
In Kh2 Sora literally bows down and begs to Saix
@@jadeepicpgaming dawg he was even better in kh1, in kh3 he is so soy. Just let it go
Kh3 sora was more mature when he was battle tested in the last sequence of the game which made him in my opinion a stronger character for being strong in his convictions on all levels making him the most confident he’s been
Sora in kingdom hearts 2 felt out of character at times. Like how he was so hostile towards organization 13 and he's someone that tries to see the good before the bad in someone. He was even going in on demyx, a lot of people say that might have been because of Roxas inside influencing him. But kingdom hearts 3 you can see he did matured some especially with his last words towards xemnas.