This Method Is More Powerful Than Anki
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Embarrass myself. Noted.
😂😂😂
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I'm king of that so I got Japanese in the bag
Good luck trying to create a vivid enough memory for 10k-20k words. : D though i agree it works.
That’s how we learn our native languages sir
@@KoreKaraPodcast I feel like we don’t mess up everything once before getting it right. We do mess up a lot and learn a lot of useful stuff that way, though.
Also, likely part of it is activating what you learned before outputting. This was Matt’s experience.
Like how suddenly everything you learned is more relevant now that you’re having to interact with people in the language, and hence you pay a lot more attention to what you learn.
@@DengueBurger yeah, a large majority of it is probably contributed to by activation of subconscious comprehension through language exposure, but there are still hypotheses in the field of language acquisition --
such as the Noticing hypothesis, which supposes that perhaps those acquiring a language *need* to be conscious of grammar patterns to use them "accurately" in output (though not explicitly, i.e thinking "in terms of grammar tables", or the like) [and of course, notwithstanding natural language evolution]
Long and short of it is:
yeah there's some unanswered questions which remains, and i'm not an expert, just a hobbyist, so i just hope this sparks some people's curiosity to look further :,>
You don't need that much kanji only 2000 to be fluent
@@KoreKaraPodcast No
It's not a method though because you can't make the embarrassing / significant moments on demand.
Oh contraire!
@@LeonSKennedy7777how? You don't know the answer. Are just bragging about things you don't know the answer
@@A_Lei_em_Vozeasy, friend, it was the obvious joke reply to OP & the Short.
Technically it IS possible to use Free Will & put yourself in 10,000-20,000 embarrassing/“flashbulb” situations to become fluent, but you’d win a World Record for Biggest Klutz. You’d be the one person who technically used this memory theory as a singular “Method” for becoming fluent in a second language.
For example, choosing one of your daily vocab words & going up to strangers in a shopping mall and repeating that foreign word in a screeching baby voice while crawling around. Sure, whatever results from that will probably make the word stick better in your memory than tapping on Anki… but at what cost?!!!!!
@@LeonSKennedy7777 the “Pyrrhic Victory” of language acquisition 🫡💀
@@A_Lei_em_Vozcalled active recall applied after learning to enhance memory for long term
Shortly after this video, we interviewed this memory researcher who discussed the limits of using spaced repetition: ua-cam.com/video/cFXaeH53Mlo/v-deo.html
Looking forward to this!
source: trust me bro
Doesnt apply here haha
Hes right but he missed out the important part about how youd have to embarrass yourself 20/40 times a day for months or years😂
Okay, you have convinced me to use anki.
This is why you use Anki and then use what you learned. You can memorize with Anki but the information really becomes imprinted in your mind once you use it
I still have vivid flashbacks to when I described my hometown as 時計 instead of 都会 😔
😳
Understandable because kanji can be pretty confusing at times...even more in literal text where it's freaking small if it's a hard kanji.....! :(
i'm not sure but the first one could be clock/watch so my hometown is clock XD
... so i should fail the exam first to embarass myself then beg to have a retake so I can do better😏
This is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS in the way that you rely on having the other person tell you that you made a mistake. Some people won't tell you that you said something wrong or weirdly. Spanish is my first language, English is my second. When you learn English they tell you to sound out the words, I did this and as a result I pronounced words like "should" or "could" with an L when the L is silent, nobody told me I was messing up till HIGH SCHOOL, I was able to speak since elementary. Whenever I say those 2 words I still mess up. It has be a CONSCIOUS EFFORT in order to not pronounce it that way. I still say it that way and there are other words I still mess up with. If you're doing this you have to do it with someone who will tell you you are messing up because if you learn it one way then it will take 10x more effort to unlearn it.
One main problem is this is only limited to spoken domain, except for the small chance you and your friend are both really into literature
Not a "method"
I said "kuso" (sh*t) when I meant "kusa" (grass). I remember it now haha
Lol. I'm learning Japanese as well.
@@Legenducky nahhhh,i dont think so..ur just lazy.ur stowpeid.for example,tell me are you still learning japanese right now or nah.say it ur peace of macaroni!
this shocked me.
But did you shock the light button
@@KoreKaraPodcast "light button" 👍
Alr, i get to perform exibitionism while singing my favorite anime opening so i get to remember what the japanese word for penut is lol
This is why you shock natives as a white guy.
best comment
lmfao
This is a well known concept, that a memory is stronger when associated with a emotional stimulus such as pleasure or embarrassment. So it does not have to be embarrassing. What this means foe the learner is that fun means a better memory, so pay attention, get excited. In fact, why not learn your second language while having sex? The only problem is that five minutes study a day is not enough.
The question is how many words can use this method, SRS can remember every words you want to remember. But with this method It's very hard to connect every words with strong emotions.
You actually don’t need to SRS to learn a language, it can artificially allow you to remember more words, but to truly understand the nuance and acquire the word you have to be encountering it/using it in real life
That’s not how flashbulb memory works, people who experience flashbulb memories still conflate facts and forget details, it just seems vivid.
yeah, thank you for further convincing me to use anki
Kinda related: Eric, do you know some good Chinese to Japanese dictionaries with 注音?
Never heard of that before, where do you want the 注音 though if the definition is in Japanese?
@@KoreKaraPodcast Oh, sorry, I should've said that I mean 注音 as a Chinese word, also known as bopomofoㄅㄆㄇㄈ. I currently use an app on my phone called 日台辞書 that has really inaccurate translations so I also use a normal Chinese dictionary with Pinyin to get the meaning.
Yeah I know 注音, it’s only used in Taiwan lol. So you’re looking up words in Japanese and you want the Chinese definition to have 注音?
@@KoreKaraPodcast The dictionary I'm using is originally for Japanese to Chinese but I'm learning Chinese and want Japanese definitions like 妹妹 => 妹And I also would like to have the 注音 in the same place if possible so that I don't see the pinyin. But my main question I guess is if you have some recommendations for 中日 or 台日 dictionaries. Currently I'm using 中日辞書 北辞郎 for the meanings of words.
What you spoke about can also be called as THE HYPERCORRECTION EFFECT!
J. Marvin Brown mentions this phenomenon in his book. I'd like to state that the memory just needs to leave an impact. It doesn't necessarily need to be embarrassing. Also many people with social anxiety would not be suited for this method.
eric and raza have been killing it lately
Best overall channel related to learning Japanese. Period.
Flashbulb memories are a thing, but their effect is very much disputed. You'll think you remember it crystal-clear but people around you will say it happened differently.
conclusion: embarass myself 24/7 to get it inside ur brain.
very productive method
YES!
OK dude. Where can I download this embarrassing software?
Mmm that is similar to my method I came up with. My method consists in using the language even if you're ANGRY, SAD and SCARED because our brains tends to switch back to our native language when we're under negative emotions.
So ur basically saying to give urself ptsd
dont wanna be that guy, but as a psychologist: flashbulb memories have been proven to be rather innacurate and unreliable. However, in the cases you´re describing we wouldn´t even be talking bout flashbulb memories. Think something more like 9/11 or the moon landing.
I believe the secret to the flashbulb theory is that when an embarrassing event occurs you will be actively recalling it constantly and replaying what you did or said wrong and thereby naturally reviewing it without intending to do so
"When learning new vocabulary, one effective technique is to create a Text-To-Speech (TTS) MP3 file of the words. By repeatedly listening to it, you can reinforce your memory. To enhance this technique:
1. **Chunking**: Break the list of words into smaller groups. For example, if you're trying to memorize the numbers 1 to 10 in Turkish, you can learn the first four numbers, then the next four, and finally the last two.
2. **Shuffling**: After memorizing, shuffle the order of the audio files. This prevents reliance on sequential recall. For instance, if you want to remember the number six, you shouldn't have to count from one to five. By shuffling, you can recall each number independently.
However, this approach might not work as effectively for languages like Chinese, where the written form is crucial. But for languages like Turkish, where pronunciation closely matches the written form, this method can be highly beneficial."
in spanish erasmus office i wanted to say "fill my form" (rellenar mi hoja) but i said "rellenar mi hoyo" (fill my hole) - luckily "fill my hole" said how i said it isnt used in spain i think and i overthought the whole thing
wouldnt call this a method since it would be probably impossible to learn 10000 words through creating 10000 vivid and shocking memories haha
I guess this is just something that happens sometimes
I believe flash bulb memories have been disproven. Studies were conducted on recall of 9/11 and the challenger in both cases the responses were highly inaccurate to the point where a large chunk would say things like “I saw 9/11 looking at my tv at home” only for their story to change when asked at a later date.
I remember every embarrassing moment I had in Japanese
That's y there's an anime song in the background
I use the Flashbulb method when trying to remember somne ones name when I meet them. I try to come up with a horrible thing about them, it might not be the nicest thing to do, but I will never forget Ken, the guy who ran over a family in his car on the way here. Or Sally, the girl that put poisin in the punch bowl.
yeah, that's why mnemnonics also work cool.
though i mean its hard to embarrass yourself in basic things or noy rememver them
unless youre a american with 0 languages knowledge, come to an asian looking stranger and yell "KONNICHI-WAR, OHEYYO GO-"
You cannot just generate emotionally shocking/surprising events at will, especially not for 10s of thousands of words.
So while this may be true, it's the worst kind of true: not practically useful. SRS remains the de-facto for vocabulary memorization.
Well, the issue there is that Flashbulb Memories aren’t substantially more accurate than regular memories.
so how to actually apply this in memorising informations?
is it by manipulate a real cringe experience and substituting the things in the story with the infos?
Simple, but mindblowing!
Good stuff bro
Is there an app for it?
Lol
Thats literally what anki does
What’s that background song?
Ok. Good point. Flash card does not works. Practise with native speaker is the best
In other words, be a perfectionist and making mistakes make you don't wanna repeat that mistake again, ever. Aim for accuracy and not speed.
Been doing the ‘practice and learn from mistake method’ for 8 years. It can teach 1 or 2 words, stop discouraging Anki dude it’s sabotaging people the moment I got my hands on Anki I actually learned.
Where is the link that you talked about ?
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Make sure you have a traumatic experience while cramming for the test you have the next day
You just described anki bro 😂
Well, can't you just combine them?
That’s so true!
That is the reason why our parents remember our names: Are we a embarrassment to them?
Bro what sound are u using??? istg i heard this on anime thighs by MC virgins
Accidentally told my conversation partner I ate a 子どもスムージー for breakfast 😂 will never mistake 果物 （くだもの） ever again 😅
The best way to memorize something is
... what next please give me tips for memorising
I CANT DO THAT! Thats....embarrassing...
Sooo true.
Y'all needed a "study" to learn that?
This video is embarrassing so is this part of a study plan?
That can end u up with poor selfesteem and self doubt..not a method advisable for everybody
Definitely helps with recall though in my experience. Thank you for the comment!
I'll get somebody to slap me after every new vocabulary.
But remember each slap has to be different and unique ... and memorable.
Nope
Ok, but how one can systematically create embarrassing situations? Make a calendar? Today I'm gonna embarrass myself talking wrongly on purpose in order to remember 😄
Or people get so discouraged that they quit. Besides making hundreds of mistakes every day and have them pointed out to you is near impossible. The best way is immersion and anki. Problem solved.
just do both lol
use input and anki, talk and make mistakes ggwp
Absolutely agree. I learned German because of immersion and Anki. Anki taught me vocabulary at a breakneck pace. Then, after learning them, I was able to learn how to listen to them and learn their rules through immersion. Learning vocabulary en masse with just immersion is inefficient.
I agree. To this day I remember, from my high school German class, "mein dein sein ihr sein ünser euer, ihr," and Ich bin, du bist, er ist, wihr sind, sie seit, sie sind." I'm sure there are several misspellings! My point is learning adverbs and such by rote is useless unless your going to be immersed in the language and using them.
Nice clickbait, bye, i'll never see you again.
how do we should embarrass ourselves? Making mistakes and waiting natives to correct us? But it depends on the culture, in some countries people will just speak English with if they notice that you suck in their native language, some people won't speak with you at all and some people will praise you even if you know only "Konnichiwa"
So how exactly should we embarrass ourselves?😹
Lol
Ahh!! Like the event of losing 500$ on a certain course as a 'whale'.
That'll create a hellva lot vocab that's for sure.
Who said that's shady marketing ?
what happened with the course?