Deadly(?) Homemade Bo-Shuriken
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0:00 intro
1:22 introducing bo-shuriken
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13:52 conclusion
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Hey yall should try throwing them like rope darts. Create a slightly stronger fletching ring and swing it at that point instead of directly on the dart
Use a slingshot to launch them.
@@bearallen852 Gotta keep it simple tho. Idealy youd want it to be fast and easy to use
hey guys, been watching your stuff since the early days of scam school, keep it up eh?
also was jason attacked by a barber? cause wow
My recommendation is to place the drill bit in the middle of the index finger and the middle finger, and hold it in place with the thumb, not pinching it just very gently... Paint brush up to down and wrist twist on the last second for a extra umph
"Brush the post" is a missed opportunity to say "Brian, brush wood"
Brian, brush the wood.
That... doesn’t sound right...
Too close for the rag tag to pull the flight straight.
I think any type of spin throw works against the rag tag.
@@zacharytheliar Yeah, it looks like you'd have to kind of throw it straight like a dart or arrow or something for that fletching to help.
i wonder if wrapping the rag around the back of it would better stabilize it
@@Just_Sara to be fair this should all actually work i think the first guy nailed it with saying there's just not enough room they are stood like 2 arms length away xD it normally takes 5 arms length for something like that to even think of stabilizing so i would love to see another video in the future where they take or make a bunch of different thrown weapons and test them all at decent distance maybe a range from 5 meters 10 meters 20 etc to compare
My thought exactly.
Armstrong's mixture and arrows? Something to think about
Don't give em any ideas we want HQ to not burn down
Damn
I like the way you are irresponsible 😏
YES!!
DO IT!!!
I think a part of the problem here was that they were behaving more like a traditional throwing knife and not hitting with the tip, and you probably want it to just be a dart and have it spin around the longitudinal axis to keep the pointy end pointing forward. Like throwing a football in a spiral. Also helps with accuracy.
Corey got it on throws 13 and 14, with more of a dart-style throw. You can see it's not tumbling end-over-end. Fins would also help, like in a dart or a rocket, I think that's what you want to go for.
i've been throwing knives for about 10 years. throwing bo-shuriken you use a different technique known as "no spin" or "quarter spin" throw, opposed to the "full spin" style that you throw a knife with (knives can also be thrown with no spin technique though). this is done with a flat palm, with more of a pushing motion. it can be done with normal throwing knives too as said before, but no, you dont want to throw it like a dart or rocket like you suggest, instead with the intention of it arcing from vertical on release, to tip on impact. its almost more like a basketball shot. i will leave it up to any one reading this to see examples by looking up "no spin throw" on youtube as there are countless examples. adding fins makes it a dart, and not a bo-shuriken. you CAN throw bo-shuriken with full spin, but that completely defeats the purpose of it and its design and intention of use.
edit: i replied to your comment before watching the video. i wouldnt really call what they made a bo-shuriken. if it is called that, its a bad one. its too small in all dimensions, balance is at wrong point and bo-shuriken dont have stabilizing tails. so i guess your comment can apply because they didnt even make a bo-shuriken. I also decided to link something myself to demonstrate to any one who wants to see
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@@Laugh1ngboy you're right, i didnt watch the whole thing. what they call "the taco" is what im talking about. sadly with what they made that will never work reliably anyways. the balance point should be where it rests on the tip of your middle finger when its resting in your palm. i should have watched the whole thing before saying anything about the video.
@@Laugh1ngboy i agree, i would like to see them actually practice properly and make a proper bo shuriken, maybe for a few months, and revisit this. some of their videos do work from a 0 knowledge perspective, but this is literally just them playing around with drill bits and giving out bad info for people to replicate. 100% agree with you.
@@thepjup4507 You are both right, yours works for distances greater than they are at like your video and that it isn't a bo-shuriken. He is right you want the spiral.
I have seen such weapons before though I cannot remember the name. They are for short-range surprize. I tried to describe it the best I can in another post, but you want a pushing motion like you said palm up and let it curl off your fingers to give it spin. The tail is also there to draw attention and make then back off while you draw your weapon. They either get a stab or something flashy thrown in their face just to cause a reaction.
@@thepjup4507 yup, I've seen better bo-shurikens made that are just made from sharpened 8-inch nails with the heads cut off and I'm sure they would be much more effective. I throw knives myself using no-spin throws and spin throws and I knew as soon as I saw them that what they made wouldn't work
"We got adults in the room."
"Where?"
Jason should never leave the room everywhere
Responsible Adults?
I feel like Rhode Island has the no throwing knives because you can throw a knife through Rhode Island
I didn't know we were doing the clap thing.
best part of the video
The short distance no spin knife throw would be perfect
Jason’s got a white Mr T thing going on with his hair and beard
Lmaoooo i can't unsee that now
I think you need to learn "No-Spin Knife Throwing" properly,
and then come back to testing these
yes
My thoughts too.
Time to watch everybodies favorite enthusiastic russian!!!
exactly
I think they already had a knife throwing episode.
These HAVE to be thrown with the "no-spin" technique. That makes sure the point is always forward. These don't have a blade so they must hit point first or they are useless. It's really easy to learn and it's a ton of fun because you can't use it with these, pens, knives, screwdrivers, and a LOT more!
When Jason says "sparky" I immediately remeber the sparky sparky boom man, then Brian follows it with sparky sparky boom. I see that he is a man of culture as well.
Calling out his casual atla reference. I def thought you'd have more upvotes.
"these guys have been eating A LOT of MREs, let's get them some better food" - HelloFresh sponsorship team
then brian proceeds to eat electrocuted rusty noodles in the very next video
This is why no one can find bigfoot. He's afraid of Brian and Jason pelting him with drill bits.
This made me laugh. (But really, when I say laugh I mean exhale forcefully out for my nose.)
Terrible idea: That waving sprinkler thing he mentioned, but with fishhooks on the ends...call it Zombie training. You get scratched, you're out.
oh jesus
Try throwing it like you would a foxtail, whipping it around by the cloth streamer end. That should get you more accurate "pointy end" hits.
That’s what I thought. Seemed the logical way to me
I cannot get over them making darts, and then throwing them like knives all but twice.
Here's my take on your techniques as someone who spent way too much time throwing knifes (throwing knifes, kitchen knifes, etc.) and homemade bo-shurikens :
Cory had it right. The only thing missing was for Cory to hit the target well was letting go later. That can be fixed I find by curling your fingers a bit more to change how much grip your hand has on the projectile as it goes down.
Brian was using way too much force. (those bounces made me scared the injury counter was close tbh) If he had tuned back his force, he might have been able to stop his hand from imparting too much spin on the bo-shuriken.
Jason I don't really know, to be frank?
Thank you. I am disappointed in them considering one of the first videos on this channel was a video on knife throwing.
Yeah they ignored the one guy who had practice with them(aka Corey), and just proceeded to muck around throwing pointy things around instead of actually learning from past experience
Random fact I just remembered too: With proper technique with the no-spin throw (what corey called brushing the post), even a BIC pen can be thrown and stuck into a foam board reliably.
@@Lilith-Rose tbf, Corey himself wasn't using the right technique for most of the throws. He did only two no-spin throws.
@@Volvary well the other ones he did were classic dart throws, which considering this is a thin relatively short item with the centre of gravity right at the front and drag stabilisation I'd call that pretty good technique, better than b+j
Maybe review the Modern Rogue "Learning to Throw Knives" video...
Last time I was this early brian still has spiked hair...
It’s a first for me being here before the video is posted
and an insane puppet.
were "Last time..." jokes still desperate attempts to get likes back then?
@@lokithecat7225 That right, insult people with no cause
@@lokithecat7225 you're a big ol' meanie
Loved the premiere! Great video as always, amazing job!
You guys been really good with these constant uploads. Lovin it!
The first throwing knifes I’ve ever gotten my hands on were bo shuriken. At one point in time I could drive a no.2 pencil into drywall.
“Taco style” is called no spin knife throwing or “thorn style” it just takes practice. I did the same with 10 inch nails I got from Home Depot some years back. Just saw or grind the heads off so they can slip from your hands.
The heavier the dart or knife, the easier it is to no spin throw.
Holy shit, Jason's actually just fully going for the all-out mowhawk now and I gotta say, I'm really liking it
I've made my bo-shuriken from spoons by flattening them, cutting the ends into arrow head points, and using frayed rope for drag.
A full throwing weapon episode with Rick Smith Jr would be great! You can revisit the old throwing weapons and experiment on which one is the best!
"the taco" looks like the grip for classic circus knife throwing, there the index finger runs along the spine of the knife to reduce spin.
Thank you guys for another amazing episode much love from your New Hampshire rogue, called Monster
Some years back I used to do Bujinkan, which is a Japanese martial art that involves all those fancy ninja things, so part of it was also throwing shuriken, and bo-shuriken. When it comes to bo-shuriken, in order to get used to throwing them, they started us off with regular, blunt chopsticks, which, if thrown correctly, can actually stick pretty nicely in styrofoam targets from about 10 paces distance. Once you get the hang of it, you can basically throw any item of similar geometry, including table knives. The "brushing the post" technique is basically what you want to go for, but you really need to find the balance between putting power behind the throw and not forcing it. You put the projectile in your open palm, point up, with your thumb gently keeping it stable and then throw. Basically, you want one smooth move, letting the inertia take the dart from your hand. If done correctly, it basically flies upright for a bit and slowly rights itself going nose in as it gets closer to the target. I hope that helped! :D I'm by no means a master, and trying a little too hard to describe something that used to be muscle memory and now I have somewhat forgotten xD
You guys should do a full hello fresh episode, idk why but food and you guys is a enjoyable combo 😄
My friends, it makes me happy to see you practicing the forgotten arts. Thank you for making amazing content. I am sure that if you keep practicing that you will find a way that is most comfortable. I recommend using a rail gun method, meaning you use momentum to let the shuriken slip from your fingers at the right moment.
I forge something similar out of 1/4 inch rebar cut in barbs and harden the tips. They work great and are easy to make.
Hello Brian and Jason another great episode
Every time a new video appears, im excited for the manly scout stuff im about to see :))
It’s so cute to watch Corey help them. He’s like a dad teaching his kids about tools 😂
That HelloFresh intro made me do a double take to make sure we weren’t doing another class on prison food.
This same exact idea, down to the type of drill bits used was done on another channel (The Small Workshop) about 3yrs ago
Me, watching this in California: oh no officer this isn’t a throwing knife, it’s just a weaponized drill bit
“We gotta get Rick Smith Jr.” ok but, hear me out. What about John Maverick? *cue whip crack and eagle screech*
Tip: add a wider tail it will improve stability during flight.
It’s understated how hard it is to drill through a drill bit
I made something similar recently by using a big long nail. Sharpen it and made the con shape paper feathering similar to the blowgun episode. flies well enough using similar throws you guys are doing but the best method to throw it is like darts.
The way that I learned to throw bo-shuriken is that you hold it in the 45° of the palm of your hand and you thumb wraps in to hold it. To release during the throw you just open your hand. Takes some practice to get the relase timing down to achieve accuracy.
It's the distance mainly. There are tips for the correct distance for knife throwing and those are useful with single pointed or edged weapons too. (Yes even axes and screwdrivers!)
2:44 Cory manages a completely vanilla sentence containing "Grinder" "Missionary" and "Shaft".
No one even blinks.
I am thinking if you go from a little farther away and possibly even try swinging it from the streamer on the back and aim high and allow it to drop down over the distance so it creates a stable arch
If you throw from the tip of the tail it gives it a whip effect. Flies further harder and actually straight.
11:27 ,,You hit the heart but you failed to break it" sounds like an 80's pop song lyric.
At this point we are just watching full grown men throwing pointy metal ouchie sticks at a wall.
And I love it
Where've you been the past 3 years.
I want the old "Cuz' I'm a modern roooooooogue!" intro back and so do you!
the brush the post method is a traditional method for shuriken but If you want a consistent point first landing you need to throw it and while it slips out of your grip stroke the spine with your index finger to reverse the inertia of the knife or dart in this case
"taco" grip but braced with your thumb and in a punching motion worked best when i was using them. can do it with phillips screw drivers, pencils, drill bits etc.
I think you need to do it with the tails on but from farther back.
The tail drag needs some time in flight to arrest the rotational energy from the fling.
Throw holding the end of the rag, the end of the rag opposite of the tip. Use Centripetal force to keep tip pointed at target.
This show keeps me alive
I'm thinking you do it similarly to a no spin knife throw. That's what the brushing fancy thing was close to
the beatboxing in the background makes the video 100x better
Stand further back! it takes a moment for the fabric to stabilize the dart, also u can throw it by holding the fabric, bring ur hand through a 180degree arc and release at 90 degrees by giving ur wrist a lil whip, this will reduce the spin you impart to the dart.
without the fabric, if you hit flat side first at 10ft take 1 toe to heel step backwards and try again using the same force.
You need to either increase the rigidity of the stabilizer, or move further away from the target to give the cloth any hope of stabilization. Mix that with a low/no spin throw and you could probably stick that thing with no problem
I can imagine that having slightly more weight at the tip, maybe a slightly longer fletching and throwing it with a spin would make it more effective
You guys literally did an episode on throwing sharp objects. Remember that distance matters for the right rotation.
The issue with throwing a dart is that you're trying to throw it like a knife.
Find a technique that allows you to comfortably throw it with a spin instead of a rotation.
A technique I've used was to throw it from the side like I'm trying to skip a stone.
I would guess that they were a bit to close to the target, so the tail can't start doing its job of pulling the pointy tip up
you use the cloth to make momentum. holding the cloth then releasing it from the 160th° of angle from the rest to the momentum of throwing it will make a downward pierce depending from the range where you are throwing. same concept on the toy "yoyo" from philipines. try it, it's effective
I would recommend throwing these underhanded to get forward momentum on the tip instead of rotation momentum
Using the same arm motion you are throwing it within the beginning hold by the tip and let it fly out of your hand as opposed to flipping it like you were causing the back end to hit the yeti
The "brush the post technique was the right one for the job.
The trick is to have the bolt flying and spinning forward (tip is rotating towards the ground) while it's in a forward trajectory.
The next step is the brush part.
You brush the spine of the bolt (in this case it's all spine) towards the top (the back tip) so that it adjusts it's downward spin that we spoke about and spins it back the other way (by spin I mean basically correcting the forward spin into close-to-no spin) and the drag of the cloth will do the rest of the adjustment.
It's definitely a matter of technique that power will not help with untill after you use the right technique.
Brian: "ooh, wow, that's going fast!"
Cori, as resident adult: "yup" with intones of, 'yeah, it's like this tool is designed to grind things like metal, exactly like we're doing right now.' (pats Brian on head like you would a little child) lol
Also, I bet Brian is still wearing his usual flip flops, lol (at 13:55 the editors and camera operators are clearly under instructions from Brian to not show his footwear, as evidenced by the fact they start to, and then bob the camera up. Conspiracy theory unlocked! Lol)
You can see his feet at 10:30 doesn't look like an open foot shoe.
Or maybe its because you know... the main host's faces were gonna be cut off screen
@@leomadero562 lol, I know. It just seems to be a theme where Brian is usually wearing flip flops, in situations most would make sure to wear closed toes footwear. And the conspiracy theme seems to go with the lore of the channel.
0:45 oh hey, lawn jarts. Got some of those in my garage.
Try palming it, with a stretched arm, palm down, point to the target, then, bending at the elbow, cross your arm over your chest (keep your upper arm pointed at the target, while the lower arm crosses your chest), fling your arm forward but keep it level and let go of the shuriken when your hand points to the target again.
"Ooh pokey" 🤣
Sounds like me when I get to do dangerous sciencey stuffs
Like arrows, spears, and other long projectiles, they need to be propelled forward from behind their center of gravity. Looking at those, one way is to throw them like darts, although they may be too top heavy for that. Another option is to fling them (not throw) from between the fingers. Kind of like the "Taco" grip, except you have your fingers behind the centre of gravity.
Another thing that can make it easier is more uniformed weight distribution. If the entire thing is the same width, then it won't be so top heavy and can fly better. Think of arrow heads, the arrows that fly the furthest are the ones that basically look like a sharpened stick.
Haven't even watched yet, imma guess the injury counter got reset 🤣
I was surprised it didn't. Yet it got reset durin the MRE episode of all things. (And in the dumbest way possible)
Hey I just had a thought. Maybe you should sharpen the other side ( front side) of the bit. Maybe the spiraling of the bit will make it stick in more
If you dip it in water every once in a while while grinding, you can keep the original hardening on the bit
I love their vids. Let me get a bit more out of debt and then I can support y’all on patreon.
You guys even took knife throwing lessons from a guy in an episode lol still fun to watch
Loving the murphyhawk
12:00 As they were throwing it, I was thinking about how
Adam Celadin demonstrated throwing knives. lol Then they mentioned throwing them the "fancy way" and having watched UA-cam videos, and I was wondering if the videos were from Adam Celadin. :D
As far as trying to drill through hardened steel, in this case what yall could do is take a propane torch and bring the part you want to drill through to a dull red and let it cool, this will anneal the steel and let you drill through it a lot easier
Try using the tail to sling it. It should produce more force, and direct it better to make it fly straight. Just use the centripedal force to let it sling itself.
With small hand weapons that are thrown like this, you use your body more like a gun to "shoot" the dart out, instead of a knife that cuts from rotational energy this is like a dart. The cloth slightly helps with drag and was a style of these Shuriken, but I would try a bigger cloth to Shuriken ratio and when you send it out, hold it close to your leg then whip your arm out and extend and release from your palm so when fully extended your palm is facing down and the shuriken is riding your hand out straight.
Step one: Learn how to throw a bo-shuriken
Underhand throw, holding the whole(!) bit in the hand. Throw sort of like a bowling ball, and release with the hand pointing at the target.
Any plans to explore EDCing thermite? I like to imagine what a small tube of thermite could do to a lock or door hinges. Maybe destroy an old harddrive or disable an engine piston? Taking out some conduit?
At 3 feet hold it by tip facing out. At 6 feet hold it with the tip facing in (toward your forearm). 9 Feet out, 12 feet in etc, all with minor adjustments depending on the length of the shuriken. The biggest thing is to not flick it, but to let it slide out.
I think the tailed version might work if thrown like a foxtail ball, and with maybe a longer tail.
Looking at regular darts, the majority of the weight is not in the tip, but behind it
That is probably why the ruglar drill bit worked as good or better than the reverse one
use the taco techinique and drill bit with the tshirt - that technique ensures straight trajectory with no spin when you have the fletcher on. Japanese used to use a needle throwing weapon that required this technique to be somewhat accurate and land on target. Probably the weapon of the villagers who used nails or something simmilar to defend their homes from bulgars or smth :) the taco ftw.
Distance is most important, followed by release. Depending how you hold it, more of a snap of the wrist helps
I think part of the issue is that it's cloth from a t-shirt and not something thinner. There may be too much weight at the back end for the distance you're at, But if it was further it may work better.
The brush the post thing is way closer. Arm moves like throwing a baseball. Your hand moves like you are making a down stroke with a paint brush. Once your hand starts moving the only thing holding the spike in your hand is centrifugal force. The goal is to have the force pulling the weight to the outside of the circle overcome the force holding it in your hand when the tips of your fingers are pointing at the target, but you still have to follow though. I don't know if there's a "long range" throw but I was taught they shouldn't flip in the air like a knife. So your hand slides down the thing as it leaves your hand and if everything was done right flies straight. The ones I was taught to use never had a tail and were made out of 1/4 inch square stock. Seeing the tail however might have helped me, One in four throws had a habit of rotating point up. Also if you learn to use the above technique you can flip is and throw underhand too.
I thaught that Brian would give up faster after the 75 matches attempt. Also maybe using the tail to swing and give it momentum?
I think of you step back a "bit" that might help true the dart tip first... and think of of like a throwing 🔪 . I used to throw Bamboo skewers and they flip at about one rotation per 6'
You should try a no-spin technique. Especially with the ones with a tassel.
You could always try holding it by it's 'fletching,' for the throw.
The "no spin" aka "1/4 spin" aka "taco method" is going to be the most effective once you get some practice. You can also just use big 9" nails instead of drill bits. If you want to add fletching to your nail, just punch it through a piece of cloth, form the cloth into a sort of cup around the nail head, and tie it in front of and behind the head with dental floss, thread, or thin string. The fletching really only benefits you at longer ranges where it can cancel out the spin if you give it a little too much spin. You can also easily sharpen the nail into a sort of 3 sided or 4 sided pyramidal shape instead of a cone since the hard edges of the pyramid can cut material as opposed to the rounded shape which has to spread material apart in order to penetrate a target.
Okay so you want them to fly straight with no spin. No spin at all. So if you're having trouble with that you can increase the tails length so it straightens out more, or make it wider to make it have more drag. If it's not a straight arch when it hits just go back further. So the drag has time to make the projectile fly true. This was also done on kunai (which was originally a masonry/stone trowel also used for gardening) a kunai should only have a sharp tip with the sides dull, sometimes a side will have a sawblade like the shikoro. You can practice with different weights and different shapes of blade as the bo-shuriken is lightweight, but kunai have a wider blade that makes them fly a little further and have some heft to them when they hit.
underhanded with the sharp end towards the back of your palm, gently cradled by your pink and held in the back with your index finger and thumb. toss underhanded, but do not immediately let go of the rear end until the sharp end is pointed forward where you want it to aim.
You might want have a bucket of water to cool off the bit every now and then, the heat could ruin temper on the bit, compromising the steel. It might not apply in this case, but I know that when sharpening an axe with power tools you want to have water nearby to keep the axe head cool.