Ballistol / Hoppe's 9 / Break Free CLP
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2013
- The recent RGR video "FrogLube CLP (& Concerns)" brought up a number of questions regarding the constitutes of Ballistol, Hoppe's, and Break Free CLP as they were briefly discussed in the video. This video details the makeup of Ballistol, Hoppe's and Break Free CLP. For a more in depth look at FrogLube CLP check out the RGR video "FrogLube CLP Review (& Concerns)".
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You can do much more with Hoppes #9. I use it as an after shave on big nights out.
I'm switching from Hoppe's to Ballistol. I'm keeping whats left in the bottle. The smell of Hoppe's always brings back the childhood memories of my father cleaning his gun.
Thanks for all your videos.
I appreciate the comment. Your enjoyment with the videos makes the time doing them well worth it. I have used Ballistol almost exclusively for 6-8 years and am really pleased with the results. I occasionally have to get a Hoppe's fix just so I can smell it and think I am really doing a good job. Lots of memories for me with Hoppe's also. I am also going to try out the new synthetic Hoppe's and will let you know my thoughts. Thanks again.
This is one of the most well informed UA-cam videos I have watched. Thank you for the great review! I have started using Ballistol on all my guns and have had great results. I still have a large bottle of Hoppes 9, and I used it to clean the bore. I cleaned my crossbreed horsehide holster with Ballistol and it looks and feels great.
I do exactly the same with the Hoppe's and Ballistol - including cleaning and softening my Crossbreed's as well. Thanks for the comment and for viewing the videos.
Hugely informative and unbiased. All fact no shit. thanks :)
NOTAPOLITECANADIAN Thanks for taking the time to comment and for viewing. I simply shared in the video the information that I wanted to know about the products.
The way it should be. Thanks again :)
same thought. great vid. sold me on clp over hopees
Very helpful. I have steered clear of Hoppe's for quite awhile now and used CLP most until recently when I tried MPro 7. Thank you!
RGR- Thanks for the info. Your vids are very informative. Keep it up.
Thanks again, p2g.
Love how technical you got in the review!
+John Pifer Great. Glad the format works for you. Thanks for viewing and commenting.
Thanks for the unbiased and scientific review! Opinions abound on YT, and it's nice when someone takes the time to actually research. cheers
+JohnnyQuid71 You are welcome, Johnny. I do the things that interest me and then share them. This was simple for me..I wanted to know how the agents I use work. Comes from my chemist background. Thanks for viewing and commenting.
Another easy to understand and informative video. Much appreciated.
This was a neat video to research. It was something I wanted also to know about and decided to share. Appreciate, again, your comments.
Really enjoy your video's. Very informative and some of the best technical information on the gun channels!
Thanks very much for the compliment. It's a lot of fun sharing and swapping info with those as interested in this sport me.
I'm new to guns and this is a highly informative video thanks for the upload !!
Excellent coverage. I've been using Froglube for the last couple of months and really like it.
Thanks for the info. I look forward to seeing how it performs.
That was very informative. Being older, I still have the old Hoppe's, and RIG (rust inhibiting grease). The latter solved the problem decades ago of display guns being affected by exposure to airborne corrosive gases and droplets almost always present in indoor environments. Not to mention guarding against fingerprints, water, etc. from handling and use.
Those others I was unfamiliar with, other than hearing about Ballistol.
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geoh7777Like you Hoppe's has been in my cleaning arsenal for many years. Ballistol has become my go to cleaner with Hoppe's used every other time or so through the bores. Thanks for commenting.
This is maybe the best video ever made on the subject. Scientific, but explained very well.
Thanks so much for the compliment. I had researched the info earlier for myself and found it so informative that I decided to share it with others who might also be interested in more details about these specific cleaners. My go-to cleaner is Ballistol but I have no problems at all with CLP, and occasionally alternate them especially in a gun I frequently shoot. Hoppe's 9 is still in my arsenal but more as a bore cleaner and usually added in every 3-4 cleanings with a gun; especially if I have shot it a lot. I probably will never get totally away from Hoppe's as it's like an old friend. Thanks again for viewing.
Finally a video that was actually informative!!!
Thanks for viewing and commenting and also I appreciate you - USMC.
just came across your video, THANKS! ALWAYS WANTED THIS INFORMATION!
I really appreciate your comment. It makes the research and work that went into doing the video worth while. I simply do these videos as a hobby to try to get information out to and help average shooters like me; and to know I have helped someone just makes it more fun.
If you are interested, I used Hoppe's for many years as a stand alone cleaner, then added BreakFree for basic cleaning through the years. Now, I use Ballistol (for the last 10 years or so) for my basic cleaning and every now and then add a good bore cleaning with Hoppe's. Works well and I can clean each time I shoot, usually at the range - quick, basic and easy in this manner. A good friend of mine (and great shooter) still prefers BreakFree (what the Marines used when he was a Marine). Said they had it in 55 gallon barrels.
Thanks again for viewing and commenting.
You are very well spoken! I have learned a lot from your channel.
Thanks David. I appreciate the comment. I do this strictly as a hobbly and the fun of sharing info back and forth with enthusiasts like you. If I can research something and save you the time in doing so then the videos are worth my time. Happy Hollidays to you and your family.
I use Ballistol,work's for me and it non-toxic.
Great review and info.
tempo529 Ballistol has done great by me. I try many different ways and they all work but my go to is Ballistol. Thanks for the comment.
informative and well spoken thank you
Thanks for viewing and I hope the info was useful.
This is a helpful video, with a good breakdown of the ingredients.
+Jonathan Wiggins Thanks and glad it was informative.
Well done- very informative- thanks
Hi, thanks for the video. It has been a while since you made it. Do you still use Breakfree and Ballistol for cleaning and lubricating your guns? Have you tested Froglube again or do you know if there has been any alterations made to it to perhaps fix the gumming up issues?
I'm looking for a new allround CLP type gun care product and it seems Ballistol and Breakfree are the top two contenders right now. I was about to buy Froglube until I noticed all the issues people have been having with it, its quite pricey too especially compared to the two Bs.
Best Regards,
Papu
Just switched from H#9 and BF CLP to Ballistol this week. I soaked the barrel of my .22 revolver, let is sit 20 mins and ran the brush thru a couple passes. When I ran the first patch thru there were fine slivers of lead on it (this after having cleaned with H#9 a couple days earlier).
Everything seems smoother with Ballistol also. So far for me... better bore cleaning than H#9 and better lube than BF CLP. Time will tell regarding how well it protects.
Best review of a product I've seen on youtube. Most are amatuerish and uninformative.
Great review, appreciate the time you spent on providing excellent information. I'm a Ballistol user myself, but I have to purchase by mail order as it's nit available in Western New York.
I've been using Ballistol for several years now as a cleaning agent, with good results. I've never used it as a lube. It just seems a bit too thin, like it would run off if the gun is left to sit for several months after cleaning. (yeah, I should lube the gun up before shooting it in that case, but ya know...) I stick to wheel bearing grease and 3 in 1 oil for gun lube. So far though I have no rust issues even in this humid part of the world. Good to hear it's reasonably non toxic as well.
Thanks for the additional info.
Great video. Very informative.
Great video, thanks RGR
+zzseamlezz I appreciate the comment and your interest...Thanks again.
Toxicity is particularly important to me, as a cancer patient. Per doctor's orders (with my wife watching) most solvents and oils have been purged from my shop, so it's good to know there are multiple agents I can still use!
Excellent review and summary!
Thanks Andrew for the comment.
I've watched a lot of videos on various cleaning products, but this is by far the best and most concise explanation of the differences between the major products in the category. Question: Does it make sense to clean with Hoppe's and lube with CLP?
That is exactly what I do. I like to clean the bores out with Hoppe's and the rest of the gun with either Ballistol or CLP. For a quick clean, I will skip the Hoppe's, but I still "feel" like my gun got a good cleaning when I add Hoppe's to my cleaning process. I really look forward checking out the synthetic Hoppe's, but feel it is probably another agent similar to Ballistol and CLP. The diesel (kerosene) is probably the main agent in Hoppe's and it won't be in the synthetic. Thanks for commenting - it makes doing the videos even more fun.
I will stick with my Hoppes #9 as I have used for over 40 years myself. These 3 have been tested in a lab to see what works better as a lead and or copper cleaner, and Hoppes #9 out cleaned the other 2 easily. Ballistol did very little, as it mainly cleans as a penetrating oil. The test is on UA-cam and phone calls made to Ballistol and they said it was just to penetrate to get under and help lift the fouling off the bore. It does not dissolve anything. I use Ballistoil to spray down my pistols, but I still clean the bores with Hoppes #9. And, the old original Hoppes #9 which had the one ingredient removed was the best ever. I do not even use any of these for a lubricant. I use nothing but Mil-Comm for my protectant and lubricant.
pickin4you Appreciate the info. The old standby Hoppes is hard to beat in our bores.
Thanks for the info very informative I do use all those products but I'm starting to lean more towards the ballistol
I, being an old guy, have used them all for many years. Way more Hoppe's than any other. I grew up with Hoppe's over the years. Now, I use Ballistol for basic cleaning and occasional Hoppe's for a good bore cleaning. I really enjoyed doing this video as I thought it would be informative for many.
Thanks for viewing and commenting. I really appreciate i
Nice informative video. Thank you
thanks for the information. mostly only ever used break free.
Excellent review! Information I will take into consideration when I next purchase. I have used Hoppes #9 for years now and have a large bottle on hand, but when it's gone, I'll probably go for one of the others.
Thanks for the comment and for viewing. Glad it has helped with some of you decisions in agents. It is still hard for me to get completely away from Hoppes #9.
Great Video. Really cleared up some confusion. Loved the explinations of the science behind the chemicals in each one. Thank you.
andychanny Appreciate you viewing and commenting and glad the video was of benefit.
Well, I'm gonna try some ballistol. I'm new to this and I've tried Hoppes and Break Free so far. I hated the smell of Hoppes, and definitely will be avoiding it for it's toxicity. Break Free has been working for me so far, but I'd like to see if Ballistol will work even better. Certainly the fact that it's non-toxic will be a huge factor for me.
I'm impressed that you could actually pronounce half of those chemical names!
Thanks from the video. Do you use oil at all on your handguns after cleaning it with Ballistol or is it an all-in-one product?
Another great video, thanks for the information.
I just bought my first bottle of Ballistol the other day and a spray bottle to apply and mix with water if needed. It was kinda a gift to my new S&W 60-15, I'd like to keep it a totally protected by Ballistol firearm. I've used Hoppes for years but with one of my LGS's advice I tried Frog Lube. It smells nice but I wasn't too impressed once I got by the peppermint odor.
Next I went to Mil Comm and I like the performance of these products on my Semi Autos. Using the cleaner, Lube protectant and grease, the Glocks, Sigs, and CZs seem to be performing flawlessly. Its my choice for those firearms.
Why try Ballistol? I dunno but that Model 60 feels awfully nice after a thorough cleaning/lube so I think I'll stick to Big Green for any revolvers that make it home. Maybe its the old world nature of Ballistol and the legendary history of revolvers that just makes me want to pair them up.
+pinkiewerewolf I, like you, like to try different agents but I find myself usually coming back to my old standby Ballistol in the gun and Hoppe's 9 in the bore. Thanks for viewing and commenting.
Excellent Review! Appreciate it
Thanks for the comment.
Excellent review! Very important to understand not only their cleaning abilities, but most important to gun owners, their potential health affects and environment affects. Most important, whatever product you use, it is vital that gun owners wear chemical resistant gloves when cleaning their weapons. Don't take the chance for this stuff to permeate your skin and build up in your body. Be safe! Thanks
Agree and appreciate the safety comment. It was something I researched for me and thought it might be informative for others - so made a production of it to share. Glad you enjoyed it. Also, thanks for viewing and commenting.
thanks for the great info!!
+maseta3 Glad the info was of value. Thanks for commenting.
Thanks for telling us which was most & least toxic. But Hoppe's 9 has come out on top as the better solvent/cleaner in many comparisons. Not to mention the smell takes you back decades.
TheGoatMumbler I agree with you fully. I still clean my bores with Hoppe's and probably always will. Reminds me too of my teen years. I appreciate the comment.
I tried CLP for a couple years until it just wasn't getting the lead & copper out of my 22 barrels without reapplying and scrubbing a few times. After more research I discovered the formula has been changed since Safariland purchased them. Reading the latest can I also noticed it no longer said it was originally developed for the military. I think it HAS changed since then.
Over here in europe ballistol is what everybody uses, my great grandfather used it, my grandfather my dad and I use it as well. My greatgrandfather picked up a mauser 98 rifle in ww1, in almost a 100 years it has seen nothing but ballistol and after thousands of rounds it is still in an excellent shape no rust no fouling no rotten wood., nothing My dad has about 12000 rounds through his beretta m9,he used nothing but ballistol , still in an excellent shape. This says it all. On ars or rifles with higher operating temperatures there might be better stuff but for the rest... excellent review!
Thanks for the great info. Ballisol for me also is as good as it gets.
SUPERB INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO. I HAVE UTILZIED HOPPES SINCE 1970--ORIGINALLY A COATESVILLE, PA. COMPANY---AT THAT TIME REFERRED TO AS HOPPES NITORBENZENE---BENZENE LEFT THE GUN CLEANING SCENE---REASONS ARE MOST INTERESTING!!
Thank You for the run down :D
Appreciate your viewing and commenting.
The original Hoppe's #9 has a different feel than these combined cleaners/lubricators/protectors. It feels and acts more like a solvent. I use it before using Ballistol, or gun oil. I think a special purpose cleaner is just going to work better. I will probably start wearing gloves when I use it thanks to the information presented here.
Hey would you do a follow up and evaluate the MPro7 products? I have used them, seem to be non-toxic... not sure about their performance compared to other similar cleaners and lubricants.
hi. great job. I spray entire pistol at night. after it sets over night I clean in morning. . any thoughts on this. oh yeah,with ballistol. thank you again.
Greatly appreciate your video's, some of the best practical info on youtube. Question: You mention that Ballistol and Frog Lube are "biodegradable", does that mean they have a limited "shelf-life" and are best disposed of after two years or so?
Most petrol agents as Ballistol (mineral oil based) supposedly have a very long shelf like limited mostly by the additives especially in the aerosol product. Biodegradable means decomposed by biological agents and other living organisms, especially bacteria so it should happen minimal if any in the bottle. It is basically nature's decomposition process.
I continue to be impressed with Froglube. For example, this past week I shot 200 rounds through my Glock 21 (copper jacket). I wiped all the crud off in a minute. I ran one swab down the barrel and it came out nearly clean. I inspected the barrel with my light and it was completely shiny with no build up. I don't really understand how organic substances can protect this well.
Great info. Your sentiments are similar to what is stated by many using the agent. Thanks for sharing it.
great video...very informative.
+Steve Mahalko Thanks for the comment, Steve. Glad you liked it.
Wow, would Love to hear their run on some of the other lubes & cleaners out there. Watched a recent Hickock45 where he equated the lubricating of a barrel to seasoning of a Cast Iron pan. What really got me about this video, is the science. This was like myth busters on steroids.
No WE really appreciate it. Strait to the point. Thank you very much!
Thanks for viewing and commenting.
Great review!
Thanks Phillip for the comment and for viewing.
Good information. I liked it.
Zuke Dog Thanks Zuke, I appreciate it.
thats a lot of info..thanks .about a year ago i switched to frog lube.seems to be ok..seems to dry out after some time..so iam not sure yet... the other day i pulled out my pump shot gun and it was real stiff,didnt seem to have any lube,real dry.but it had een setting for a couple months..so dont know yet about frog lube..
I have not made up my mine either. I still use Ballistol mostly but have cleaned some guns with Frog Lube. Thanks for commenting.
Thank you!
This was a great review. You got straight to the point and really explained each one in good detail. I just picked up some Breakfree CLP today to test it out on my new AR and few other rifles. I've used Hoppes for years and wanted to try something new.
Thanks for the comment. I sometimes use Hoppe's in the bore and then clean the rest of the gun with BreakFree or Ballistol.
You can do so much much more with Ballistol. I wash and rinse my car. Then a few squirts in clean warm water in a bucket. Rinse the car again with the Ballistol and towel dipped in bucket. Rinse it off. The car looks like it was waxed Ballistol doesn't harm metal or paint.
+Arthur Smith Great comment. Ballistol is definitely the deal for me too. For some reason, I have to try new things, but I always drift back to Ballistol, and it is very loyal as it sits there on the cabinet with a smile on its little face simply waiting (and probably knowing) for me to come back home to it.
New MSDS rules have recently been applied they are supposed to be more in depth. Great video I had been wondering about Breakfree CLP something I have almost exclusively used for 3 decades. I do get it on my hands and I'm not so concerned about it but when mixed with powder residue and the residues left by ammunition it can indeed have other carcinogens or even heavy metals suspended or emulsified. The same would apply to any of the cleaners/lubricants.
+worddunlap Thanks for the info. I hope you are right with the MSDS rules. Companies should have to list the products in the agents. They don't have to give away their exact proprietary formula but it would be nice for them to tell what is in them - if for no other reason safety for us consumers. One of those heavy metals you noted we all need to more careful with is lead.
Is there any ammonia in break free clp now days or ever? Thank you.
I hope you can review Mil-Comm TW-25B and their other products. That's what I use to grease my Sig Pro 2022. I have a bottle of Hoppe's that I use to clean the bore but I'm starting thinking of pitching it for something a little less toxic. That TW-25B seems like good stuff though.
+usparktalk I use the Mil Comm MC25 cleaner, MC2500 lubricant protectant, and TW25B synthetic grease on all of my semi autos and they run flawlessly with them. About 6 months ago I watched a guy doing test with the Mil Comm against Frog Lube and the Mil Comm was far superior in preventing rust in every test given, most were salt water exposure.
I gave up on the Hoppes a couple of years ago and had been trying replacement products. I'm happy with the Mil Comm for my semi autos but out of nostalgia I have paired up Ballistol for my new S&W revolver. They just seemed meant for each other. LOL (and it seems to work well on this Stainless Steel Model 60.)
so if I get the ballistol...is it the only product to clean and lubricate my xdm?
+Justin Miller Thanks for viewing. How I clean my guns is not necessarily what the manufacturers say - it has just worked years for me. If Springfield recommends lightly oiling then you probably should go with that. However, what I usually do is clean my gun sparingly with a CLP (Ballistol or Break Free). As I do this, I have the inside of my barrel "soaking" in Hoppe's 9. After running patches and a brush thru my barrel, I follow that at the end with a bore snake usually with a little ClP on the end of it. I - depending on nothing in particular - might put a tiny bit of gun oil on the rales but usually I just run a bit of CLP on them. I am not totally adverse to gun oil but if ever I use it, I use it very sparingly. So after all this verbose discussion, I usually only use Ballistol and Hoppe's. I appreciate your watiching the videos.
I use hoppes #9 to clean my bores and to lubricate I use 50/50 blend of marvel mystery and synthetic motor oil. A whole lot cheaper and works great
In Vietnam they issuued LSA stands for light small arms or CLP
+Les Rinehart Appreciate the info. Thanks for viewing and commenting.
Ballistol when mixed with water, makes a great black powder solvent.
I cannot decide which one is best for me, i clean at least one gun a day with the amount of guns my family has acquired from my grandpa. I am looking at Break Free and FrogLube, The only thing concerning me about FrogLube is that it is suggested to heat up the firearm before application. I am also worried about rusting of the gun, after they get cleaned and lubed they probably wont be shot for a year or two. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Oh and by the way great video keep up the good work!
Shawn Willman Shawn, I will not use FrogLube any longer on a gun that I store. I do not like the "stickiness" on the gun after it sets up. Some state that they have not had this problem and all I can say is good for them, but for me it will not go in my guns if they are going to store for an extensive period of time. SEAL1 CLP is actually known as the original formula in the FrogLube development and is said not to get sticky. I have not tried it. However, I have decades of experience with BreakFree CLP, as has our military, and it works just fine for me. I have about 8 years experience with Ballistol and it works great also. I use BreakFree CLP and Ballistol interchangeably and most of the time run Hoppe's solvent thru the bores also regardless of the CLP agent used. I use very little gun oil with my handguns and usually let the CLP do most of the lubricating. Maybe a small amount of oil on the rales but that is about it. Over oiling is much worse than too little as too much will cause the gun to gum up. Hope this helps and thanks for your interest in the videos.
Thanks! That does help very much, I was actually to lean toward break free after i posted that. I have heard of FrogLube getting sticky like that before also. Once again thanks for the help.
Shawn Willman
For a lubricant/protectant, Mil-Comm is the best you can buy.
Is it okay to use Hoppes #9 for cleaning and The CLP Breakfree Pure lubricant for just lubrication ? Wondering if there will be a issue with using those together On a Glock 19 Gen 5
No issue at all. I actually do similar all the time - in the past with CLP and now with Ballistol. For me CLP and Ballistol are interchangeable. I like to add Hoppe's as a bore cleaner occasionally and more ofter when I shoot reloads with lead.
Thanks for viewing and commenting. I really appreciate it.
Sir, I am going to use ballistol and hoppes #9 solvent to clean my beretta 92fs, is that enough? Or do you recommend some other cleaner?
That is exactly what I do and it works great for me. I think if you take care of your guns in that manner they will take care of you for years to come. Thanks for taking the time to check out the videos.
Great information. Thanks!
Great review. I think the health concerns for Hoppe's would be shown to be a non issue, after 40 years of use.
I'm still kicking too and have used the heck out of it for about that long, however, I still look forward at trying their new environmentally safe product. Thanks for the comment.
damn good video!
nice job.
Thanks for viewing and for the compliment.
Thanks for the review... i never consider Ballistol.... i love the CLP used it for years... recently started using Hoppes gun oils because it much easier to get ahold of so i was looking for a good review see if it is any better than CLP. I think you sold me me on Ballistol...
ReconM1A It has worked great for me. Thanks for viewing.
ReconM1A I learned about Ballistol a few years ago at the Sportsman Show (Harrisburg, PA) a few years ago. Pretty good stuff and my skin does not itch. Works as well as my Mpro7. It's also great for black powder firearms and does a great job cleaning my Mosin 91/30.
Hoppes 9 is very good!!!!
+Danny7shop Agree, Danny and I appreciate the comment and your viewing.
Good vid and remember,cleaning your guns is the point,personally it's Hoppes and clp
Les Rinehart Thanks Les; They have been my go to cleaners also for many years.
Les Rinehart Hey Les, one other thing I fully agree with you on and appreciate your making that point, "Cleaning your guns is the point". There are many good products and one is just about as good as another. Whatever its cleaned with - a clean gun is usually a reliable gun. Thanks again.
+RealGuysReviews Thank you
Any MSDS, now called an SDS can be obtained by calling a manufacturer, and can be faxed, or emailed to anyone.
dadougro I appreciate the info and for you viewing the video.
I am confused. Still don't know what is best cleaning agent. For polymers guns and for stainless steel revolvers
is hoppes bad for polymer guns? for revolvers? Thanks
joe bananas After 40+ years cleaning guns, I do not think there is a best - it is simply what you feel comfortable with and what works best for you. I primarily clean my guns with either Ballistol or Break Free CLP and run Hoppe's 9 through my bores - polymer and stainless steel alike. I have noticed no problems and have cleaned hundreds of times in this manner. However, I do use Hoppe's only in the bore and am careful not to get it all over the gun otherwise.
Cai I just use Ballistol or CLP in bore too?
Definitely. I clean with one or the other 95% of the time and every now and then run a specific bore cleaner thru my barrel like Hoppe's. The Hoppe's is probably not necessary but it makes me feel a little better to occasionally use it. Each time, I finish the cleaning of my barrels with a bore snake. Great invention and it works great. Hope this helps.
will ballistol or CLP work as all around one all, cleaner, lubricant, preservative and rust preventative? if so out of these 2 which one is better? Thanks
Just noticed that by the graph mineral oil is a better lubricant than PAO until 100 C. Given that I don't usually raise the guns temp above boiling water, 212 F. Ballistol should be a better lubricant.
mich4405 Mich4405. I don't really know the significance of the graph in comparing how the agents overall perform, but without doubt Ballistol is a great CLP agent and as I stated is my go to agent. Thanks of the comment.
***** German Army approved!! If it could lube and protect MG42 and other automatic weapons.. should be fine for rifle, pistols and shotguns.
Will ballistol mess up guns with nickel in them?
FROM THE 2015 SHOTShow: The explanation at the SHOT Show by the owner of FrogLube of the stickiness noted by some when using the product. To paraphrase, "When winterizing a gun with FrogLube, all excess FrogLube CLP must be removed, especially down in the intricate working areas of the gun. This is best done with a sonic cleaner. Then you are left with the CLP that has penetrated the metal and not actually on the metal." Thus, the gun appears dry, but in actually is protected by the agent being penetrated down in the microscopic pores of the metal.
***** I heard about frog lube on every site on the net. It's the greatest thing since sliced bread if you believe half what they say. Meanwhile i think it's too much trouble,. They tell you heat the gun with a heat gun to apply - the cost - now this winterizing bit? No thanks, I'll stick with TW25B or mobil 1. Hoppes or kroil for bore. They work and they're cheap.
Robert Maybeth You don't need a heat gun. A blow dryer for hair will heat the metal up really high. They want the metal to expand so these valleys and crevasses will open up allowing more of the lube to get inside. I'm not completely sold on it, though.
BlueonGoldZ Thanks for the comment. I have tried FrogLube several times and even sparingly it creates a stickiness that does not work for me.
Robert Maybeth Thanks for the comment. I have tried FrogLube several times and even sparingly it creates a stickiness that does not work for me. I still go back to my Ballistol and Hoppe's most of the time. Also, I like to sometimes clean my guns before I leave my range and it is just too inconvenient for me much of the time.
+RealGuysReviews ..Greetings Brother,..how do you rate FROG LUBE over Rem Oil?...great presentation by the way, thank you kindly.
So if you don't use Ballistol or Froglube within 2 years of purchase then it's no good or doesn't work as well?
Je P Not an issue with Ballistol for me. Don't know about FrogLube - but again I probably would not get rid of it. Thanks for viewing.
+Je P Ballistol will not evaporate from can. Frog lube can be bought in a paste or liquid also won't go bad over time .
I used FrogLube on my 50. in Iraq.
Enough said for me. You trusted it with your life. I shoot at metal targets that don't shoot back. Not so for you. Thanks for your service to this great country.
Thank you for the support man.
It's a definite honor, Michael.
I see lots of comments about people liking the smell of Hoppe's. I can't stand it...lol! Makes me sick after cleaning the gun next to my bed. I'm going to check out FrogLube. I don't like that Ballistol is impossible to buy locally for me.
I like to spay/soak and brush each weapon with Hoppe's 9 and then spray with One Shot / Ballistol or CLP and used compressed air then dry with a rag. Nothing beats Hoppe's for cleaning and the others for flushing - Great combination
Ballistol-When I'm lazy and don't want to put on a respirator. Great for quick cleans, not as effective as others, but I like the way it smells and the non toxic element of it
CLP-When I want something that will protect my guns and lube them up real nice.
Hoppes-When I want to deep clean them and am OK with putting on a respirator, gloves and opening a window. Shit still gives me a headache even when I do that though.
I should start using a mask with hoppes. I hadn't before, just gloves.
Is Ballistol ammonia based? Is it safe fore chrome lined barrels?
+bmotx No Ballistol is mineral oil based
I have used rem oil hoppes 9 hoppes elite break free clp and ballistol and a few others. I but I have been using break free for a while but recently I started using ballistol and idk what the hype is besides it's eco friendly.. it drys out really fast and does not last. And it smells HORRIBLE!! Break free has a little toxicity but it works way better in my experience
I did a smell test and then a taste test, result .....frog lube wins! Now have to test it at -10 degrees. O crap.
Appreciate the comment.
is it pronounced ballistol,or ballistol?
I do not know. I hear it both ways but I thought the Germans probably called it ba-llist'-ol for ballistics. I usually say bal'-is-tol though. Regardless, it is my go to cleaner. Thanks for viewing.
If the original formula Hoppe's No. 9 and the new synthetic Hoppe's is also "No. 9," that's too confusing. They should call the new stuff something else. Their other formulas have unique names; that one should too.
FROG PUKE DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME. ITS JUNK. I USED TO BE A DEALER UNTIL I had 2 bad experiences I WENT TO GET MY SHOTGUN OUT OF THE SAFE AND I COULDN'T OPEN THE ACTION BECAUSE IT WAS GUMMED UP STICKY AND STUCK IN THE CLOSED POSTION. When I originally became a FL dealer I called the company and asked what is the best way to apply FL and like in the video above I was told to use a heat gun to heat up the items. then generously apply it and wipe it down and after a few application you will only have to use less. Well GUESS WHAT that don't fly. Here in OHIO it gets COLD. This past winter it got REAL COLD (2014-2015) IN THE TEENS. and I went out to shoot my CCW pistol (USPFS45) well I got one round off and the slide was stuck in the open position like I fired the last round. DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH FROG PUKE, BESIDES WHO LIKES SMELLING LIKE BEN GAY. I HAVE SINCE RETURNED OR THROWN AWAY ALL MY FROG PUKE PRODUCT AND ASKED TO BE TAKEN OFF THE WEBSITE AS A DEALER I don't use it or recommend it.& I steer people away from it. If you want a better cleaner lube SEAL ONE. it works better without the gummed up sticky BS and you won't smell like BENGAY.
+Colt Forty Five I really appreciate the added info. I have tried it again with the same results so will stay with my Ballistol and Hoppe's 9. Thanks for viewing and commenting.
I've been using Ballistol for years and would have been a lifelong customer except for their customer service. Dave Brown (co-owner of Ballistol) would not send me a trigger top for the liquid bottle. Even blamed me for buying thru a distributor (Midway) to save a few bucks and not thru their website. He would rather argue about the fault of the customer for 15 minutes than send a trigger that I got with my first purchase from the website. Don't understand his business logic. I expect better customer service - not an argumentative owner.
Hate to hear that. Not good company PR for sure. Thanks for the information.
I don't know, non petroleum isn't exactly a selling point for me.
FAncia
breakfree turned into gum it's in the trash.
Glad to hear the comment. Not that it matters to you r gummy BreakFree but I fortunately have never had that problem. Anyway, I am a Ballistol guy now.
Thanks for viewing and commenting. I really appreciate it.
FAncia