Can He Find Power in Her Success? ft. Jade Novah, Devin Johnson | Lovers & Friends Ep.70
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2023
- Let’s talk about submission! My fav definition of this comes from Hafeez who simply said to submit is to sub (be underneath) another person’s mission. Now, one of the main purposes of romantic relationships is to be stronger together - a concept we’ve gone into before when we discussed self expansion theory on episode 4 featuring Jeannie Mai. The Self expansion theory states that the best way to expand, together, is to take stock of each other’s strengths, then create a dynamic that aligns with that reality.
But what happens when in the end of this audit, you realize that your strengths fall outside of traditional gender roles? And furthermore you realize that the man’s strengths are perfectly suited to aid in the woman’s success? How does it work and furthermore CAN it work when a man realizes his partner’s potential and then makes her mission, his main mission? That’s what we are going to be talking about on this episode featuring Jade Novah and Devin Johnson.
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Tabitha Brown & Chance Brown are the perfect example of this. That man packed up his entire life to support his wife in her dreams & goals and while he was technically the one making the money for a lot of their relationship, it was him pooling his resources for her dream. And now that she's there she's helping him towards his goals even though she's still the face & it's still a lot of her mission & goals.
David & Tamela Mann is another example. They're careers and goals are tied together and he basically expressed that he finds fulfillment in dedicating his time & energy towards esteeming her above himself and pushing her career and purpose.
The only issue I wonder about with many women is the "he's holding me back" mentality, after you pour into her.
Devin is an EXTREMELY secure man! I ❤ it!!!
When Jared said “You have to be in your JOY to help!” Man that is the key right there. You can’t (on any side of “submission”) expect it to be successful if it’s done out of obligation and not a place of joy. ❤
“Everything I did for you actually made me ready for myself.” Sheesh! God be knowing, man.
Show me an example of a righteous husband and wife in the Bible who fit this dynamic.. if you don’t see it.. is God really behind it? Or is the author of confusion behind it? 🤔
I love the vulnerability you and Jared have.
It's so refreshing to hear people admit how they're reality is not fitting the society norm
the beauty that is Jared and Shan (separately) and Jared and Shan (together)!!!!!!
Honestly Shan & Jared, I’m not joking when I say I hope my lifetime partnership is one that reflects such a massive purpose outside of just the love we share, the way yours does. I’m always so inspired when I leave your videos. Thank you for the display of love & partnership you guys have given us a glimpse into.
They were speaking facts. Black people don’t have enough examples of non transactional partnerships in our media and culture.
This is to show also how much women have to pour into their man (cooking, laundry, caring for the home) in order for the man to get the credit of being the financial "superior"
No lie, this was a beautiful display of give and take within relationships. It’s not always about the other person and it’s not always about yourself. Knowing when to invest the time and energy into one another a different times to intensify the end goals of each is what is needed. Being “dominant” is the wrong frame of mind majority of the time. It’s all about being productive at the end of the day and playing that dominant game is damn near a sure fire way to burn each other and get he relationship out as a whole.
CALL A SPADE A SPADE JARED 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 i literally skipped the first half of the pod just to start when it was your segment! I love your relationship dynamic so I’m always here for a Shan/Jared moment. The foundation you both have built is truly inspiring and you’ll always have a supporter outta me ❤ love you both
This was easily the best episode you’ve all created. It’s beautiful, flawless, sincere and super clear. This episode inspired me, brought me tears. Just lovely.
Would love to see an episode on situationships and how they impact our sense of self worth. I think it’s not talked about enough and Shan has a very nuanced way to explore deep topics
Or that people have lowered self worth and that's WHY they get into situationships.
@@dumfriesspearhead7398 so true getting into situationships are makes low self esteem worse.
This would be so good! First things first, she has to define what situationships are
@@AyaNichelle-gi9cd The thing about situationships is that they are undefined, but NOT undefinable.
@@dumfriesspearhead7398 oooo, I like that. So what's your definition of that which has been culturally undefined?
Jared looked 🤌🏽 on the other thumbnail! I appreciate that he switches up his look. The amount of artistry between you two couples is so beautiful.
I loved the interview with Jade and Devin BUT it was the convo with you and Jared that hit for me. I've had this type of relationship with my husband. We've had to decide that our understanding is all that matters.
Great episode 😃 Shan and Jared... Hopefully society will get to a point where it's teamwork makes the dream work.
Wwww has been wq
I love these conversations. This is so mature and necessary. I've already "peaked" in my career and my husband was so supportive and stepped up at home. I've been on several boards and won a ton of industry awards. Now its his season and I'm taking care of home.
I love all of this! You are the person I’ve always dreamed would find my content
I'm in the same boat now. My wife is super successful in her career and i'm her biggest fan/cheerleader! We both work but her position calls for her to travel and have to be in the office from time to time.
This podcast is amazing honestly. The conversations are so powerful. I appreciate how open and vulnerable you and Jared are. You’re definitely purpose partners.
This is probably my favorite episode so far and I love them all. Although the theme was the men supporting the woman's vision I actually thought about how I can do that more for my man and how we can continue to lean into our own strengths and let each other have leadership in our respective spaces. For example, we both bring in a similar high income but my man cares more about his career and is great at making moves in that space. I am the personal finance guru who also loves to cook and experiment with recipes. I find joy in cooking and even more joy in him enjoying my creations. When we move in together, I know it'll make sense for me to manage the kitchen and our finances. He is a clean freak so he might be the chores leader and business guy. I also love how you spoke about seasons - right now you all are putting energy into one person's vision because that's beneficial for both of y'all. And the time will come for the priorities to change - whether naturally or intentionally! Jared's wisdom on how supporting the other person has to be from a place of desire and joy is what I really take away from today. To have more of that with my partner comes the need for more vulnerability and open conversations about what is important to both of us. THANK YOU, THANK YOU BOTH! I have grown so much from listening each week.
Thank you for this episode Shan! You are always leading conversations that shake the proverbial table in the best way! In a world where people are really running back toward the traditional relationship, I think Devin really hit the nail on the head when he said that we really lack a common understanding of what partnership is. This is helping to restore my faith in the beauty and benefits of modern partnerships ♥
This was a GREAT episode!! Both Devin + Jade and you + Jared’s portion.
This was such a beautiful episode and so on point for the times were in. It’s very needed rn for us to see couples understand the importance of playing your role within the relationship dynamic not always just a gender role for the sake of being masculine or feminine but for the advancement health and success of the family/relationship. This really touched my heart and I pray to one day have a relationship with such balance and understanding.
Zya’s cameo was much appreciated! 🥰 I love this conversation. Loved Jared being on too. The conversations between the two of you are a joy to watch! Gotta love Jade as well, such a beautiful talent and amazing pen!
Loved this episode. The part where Jared said we can work on our goals separately and meet in the middle spoke to me. I often felt like helping my husband wholeheartedly, delayed my goals and i was like I can do both 🥵tiring as crap. I love how you two marriage the way it works and propel the both of you.
Such a brilliant episode. Society should have this convo more often. I love the break down of Sub-Mission 👌🏾. Thank you 😁✌🏾❤️🇬🇧
I love the Shannon and Jared Convos. It's inspiring how you all communicate and support eachother ❤ keep them coming!
I love Jared's honesty and awareness in this episode. These nuggets are beneficial for personal and professional relationships. Peace and blessings to ya'll.
I love how much she praises himmmmmm and how much he loves being the one to push her ugh 💖💖💖
I admire how you guys communicate? I take many notes from you all and apply it to my own relationship 💞
Navigating Jade and Devin’s
interview was really interesting. I feel like we’ve see this mold in the entertainment industry many times (Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, etc)
…maybe that’s why is doesn’t feel so different. I feel like this would feel foreign if we were talking to a couple in corporate America or something, but for the most part I think creative couples (where the woman is the gem that’s being poured into) have paved the way for what female leaders in households looks like.
I love yall so much. The day love finds me and I choose it, I hope it resembles your level of conlmmunication and vulnerability.
Jared said, " you gotta do it from joy. "
A word.
Shan please take a break if you need to! I e all need a break and you’re always sick so definitely take all the time you need and we’ll be here when you get back ❤😊 great episode! 🥰
I’d love to but the way these contracts are setup…definitely asked my manager tho for some window in coming weeks. I need to get the kids out of their current daycare bare minimum bc way too much illnesses. I know some are expected but this is insane
Thank you for this conversation ❤. This is how my partnership is set up right now. I'm grateful to have a partner that trust my leadership and I of him. Also relationship goes through seasons...I look forward to how we can we support each other going forward.
No no no jared. I never thought you were her little b. Shan always placed you on a pedestal from my perspective... and honestly you have to be more of a man to be able to face and sit in that uncomfortable position that so many people are ignorant to. 😊 I love you two
I love how intentional you both are. Its so freeing 😊
One of my favorite episodes everrr
I truly love watch each of your videos. It always has me on my toes to learn about myself, my relationship, life… etc. ❤
I pray for your continued wisdom and guidance for these beautiful discussions......whether it's applicable to one's reality or not, the discussions are so beautiful
Simultaneously, everyone wins!!!!
I've enjoyed this episode truly. Thank you.
I needed to hear this! First thing on my mind this morning ❤
Really ENJOYED this !!!
Such an important topic. Great points from ppl living it. Impressive content. 🎯
This episode is so beautiful!!!!!! 😭💖💖💖💖💖
Fantastic episode!!!
Outstanding episode!
Okay Devin with dj Khaled😂😂I get it!😂
Love and they’re locs are so beautiful 😍
Love this talk so much!! ❤❤
Great episode and conversations ❤️🙌🏾
Enjoyed every moment of this podcast. Because I’m very new to it. 👏🏽👏🏽🙏🏽🌹👊🏽✊🏽
devin hit it on the nail. "we dont understand what partnership is"
Seeeeeeshhh. This was such a fucking drop the mic conversation START TO FINISH!!
This was a great one on the Podacst Shan and Jared❤️❤️✌🏾
People focus on the money. Man/womem just want a valued role. Valued role doesn't always have to have $ attached to it. Do i feel like a million bucks doing whatever it is that im doing. What most people actually miss is that men who do these different roles are also glorified. So it actually adds to what makes it easier for them. Same applies when men work in female based roles. Everyone glorifies it and often get called a unicorn
If u feel like your husband values u at home u will be the happiest house wife. If he doesn't u will go to work and feel valued there. Same for men. If I'm valued as a men who supports her then it's all good. That value has to come not just from her but his mates and family about his role. Minute she looks at him less as the guy with nothing going on for him.... Its game over.
Yes! We are want to play a valued part and for that value to be acknowledged.
This is beautiful! Tag team...
THANK YOU!
But Jared you've definitely helped to keep shan stable. And it seems the same vice versa
And the videos... I always loved I think that's why I clicked on my first video back in 2017 :)
Great topic.
Devin's comments about gate keepers within the music industry mostly pushing forward those narratives of Black women and male division is SPOT ON and it is so disheartening. Depressing, even, at times.
There are actually several great positive artists out there who are NOT pushed the fore or either the masses are so conditioned for the bullsheit now that they aren't paying attention or appreciating those opposing Voices as much.
There are very few examples of mainstream Hip Hop artists, in particular, who are able to garner tbe attention while having positive messages but often times they release every few years or more and the market is already heavily saturated with the less positive inspirations. I.E. King Kendrick Lamar.
For women it's Rapsody and NoName who are phenomenal emcees! Phenomenal lyricists with great beats/tracks, & Rapsody in particular. She's with Roc A Fella. She had an album dedicated to Black women. Each TRACK was named for prominent Black women who inspired her.
It was entitled EVE:
tracklist...
NINA
CLEO
AAYLIAH
OPRAH f. Leikeli47
WHOOPI
SERENA
TYRA
MAYA f. K Roosevelt
IBTIHAJ f. D’angelo & GZA
MYRLIE f. Mereba
Reyna’s Interlude
MICHELLE f. Elle Varner I
MAN f. SiR & J.I.D
HATSHEPSUT f. Queen Latifah
SOJOURNER f. J. Cole
AFENI f. PJ Morton
Incredible art!
So they are OUT'CHEA....
The gatekeepers and the brainwaahed audiences don't always give them enough shine.
Very neat ep❤🥰👍🏽
Some men have more feminine energy. Its not a slight. Feminine energy is beautiful. Yes, these men have more feminine energy and thats only a negative when you have a negative connotation on femininity.
Its the energy not reversed societal roles.
I'm sure it would be a relief to have a partner that is leading the decisions. This is her business, her decision to do youtube, her desicion to get married, her decision to have an open relationship, her decision to initially have kids. There is no reason to vilify yourself for it. If it works it works! If you two are a great fit thats a dream no need to change your energy bc you can't and no need to label it another way or deny it. Just let it be bc it already is.
Shan has been the one putting out the content for the last (7?) years. Jared doesn't put out music regularly or create his own content so of course the perception is different because the reality is different.
Please be careful with the jealousy. Who cares what people pick up on if it works it works.
Jade’s Husband didn’t lie about DJ Khalid
Can we get another episode with Jeannie please?!!!
Awww 😍
Her hair 😍
Great conversation.
Just an aside from a comment Shan made about J Lo)l *wanting* to take time from the camera's.... although I/we obviously don't know her personally, I'd still venture to say that I've NEVER observed a time when Jennifer didn't appear to want attention. Lol
The only times that Jennifer took a bit of a "hiatus" (short & still posting thirst traps on social media) was surrounding embarrassing controversies... as when a popular transvestite publicly claimed that she and Casper Smart had sex, which eventually led Jen & Caspers breakup... and when Alex Rodriguez got called out for cheating with a blonde reality star (Southern Charm). Even THEN she would still post to put forth the proverbial good face.
When she had her children, she was posting. The only times it appeared that she was shying away from the public eye for lengthy periods of time was when there was a lack of media interest - and YES, there were those times. Jennifer always finds a way to Course Correct though. To reignite that public frenzy. She's extremely shrewd... which isn't a bad thing. Just how you go about it that tells the tale. ;)
For the record, I respect Jennifer's resolve and hard work. No haters here, which is something Folks throw at you if you're not praising their favorite artist in concert with them. ;) She's cool.
MY Ted Talk... two cents.... whatEver you wanna call it. Lol
Ciao....
I don't care if the other person makes more than me I just don't want them to know how unfrugal I can be when it comes to finance 😂
Such handsome men
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No way can they be that perfect of a couple #jealous - lol
Sooooo, now successful woman have to make sure to acknowledge and admit openly that their success is not only theirs? How many decades have men been successful due to their well behaved, silent, obedient wives taking care of everything around their lives without man ever even realizing their success is not solely cause they are solo-amazing and never ever recognizing their wives/partners. This is so interesting. Now a days it's either feminism gone extreme, trans-woman making women give up their rights while trans-man are not pushing for anything against man and now this. Sooooo interesting.
I hope Shan sees this comment…have you accomplished your educational goals?
I am dying for Shan to have Jeffrey Star on one of her episodes.
That flip wont happen homie, but best of luck.
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...confused about his manhood
The older dude creeped me out. And clearly he doesn't have queer friends. 'that's just the way it is' wonder if he has that same thought about ideas that don't put him on top. Urgh... Creep.
I get so confused Shan. On multiple occasions you introduce ppl as your real life friends but then have an entire episode saying you don’t have any friends and no one to hang out with? What’s that about?
I have no idea who she is nor do I know who he is. Y’all really be putting these ppl on pedestal’s to the point you let “Appearance” be your overall judgement on them at the level you hold them too.
This society is so superficial is ridiculous. Y’all be craving for people’s validation & it’s sickening. I bust out laughing every time I hear someone speak highly of someone else in a weird way.
Like y’all be expecting people to think low of themselves when mentioning other people that y’all put at a higher pedestal. Nobody should be walking around thinking people are better than them.
Nobody is better than me. I could give no F’s about who your GOD is & who you think is better than you. We are NOT the same. I truly hate society. 🤣
Is this projecting? Paragraph 3 was a spin for me. If I I talk highly of my mom, it's not because I want you to feel less (than my mom). TF? I just admire my mom.
Get some therapy .... U going through some shit
How is this even relevant to the episode?🧐
I love Shan & Jared. And the fact that their combined name is Shared is just 😍🤌🏾
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