Donnie Darko EXPLAINED

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2024

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  • @jonathanfeldheim6554
    @jonathanfeldheim6554 День тому +46

    I like how when Donnie says “OK” when the teacher says he could lose his job-it reaffirms to the audience that Donnie still has his common sense and mental faculties, and so when he lashes out at Jim or others he’s not being a mindless prick and hasn’t lost touch.

  • @thedango6890
    @thedango6890 15 годин тому +11

    Donnie is the true artifact, it is all tied to him being in the room when the engine falls on him. Him not being there opened the tangent. This is also contradicted by the fact that he was awokened by frank from the tangent.

  • @TheRealNightRyder
    @TheRealNightRyder 13 годин тому +9

    This is the first time I’ve heard someone explain Donnie Darko this way. The parallels to Jesus and people having an innate pull towards self sacrifice because of a self sacrificing God is something that resonates with me. Overall very understandable analysis, great job.

    • @iamthelaw9369
      @iamthelaw9369 5 годин тому +2

      Funny you should mention that. Many speculate that the point of Christianity was to weaken the Roman Empire by displaying a suffering messiah and replacing pagan cultures with values of “turning the other cheek” and what not.

  • @markwarrensprawson
    @markwarrensprawson 9 годин тому +3

    I've happily sat through "Donnie Darko" about a hundred times. The first two or three were flabbergasting. I was left every time with an inexpressible feeling that there was a direct line between cause and effect tying everything together, but I never quite got to it. One thing only seemed to seem undeniable to me, and it was that Donnie was an understated superhero with a role to play that would spare those he loved from a tragedy that, at least to him, seemed far greater than that of his own death under the collapsed jet engine.
    Then, one day, strolling through a collector's vinyl and DVD store, I found the director's cut. Every other viewing of the film I enjoyed was of this version. All I really missed was the switching out of a Tears for Fears tune with an Echo and the Bunnymen one. But each viewing seemed to make it more concrete for me. Roberta Sparrow wrote that book intending for Donnie to find it. Perhaps the same characters had existed in several dimensions, who knows? But that one thing Roberta whispered to him, "Everything on earth dies alone," I think it was, that really cemented it for me. It seemed at that moment in the movie that Roberta had been walking to and from her post box every day just waiting for Donnie to appear, knowing that at some point, he'd have to, that it was his destiny to prevent the tragic demise of the members of Sparkle Motion, amongst whom was his little sister, Samantha, as well as his mother, and everybody else aboard that ill-fated flight. Then we have Gretchen, the daughter of a woman who'd been married to a complete psychopath, and who'd changed her name as a result of entering a witness protection programme, and who we know had only arrived at Donnie's party that night after her mother had mysteriously disappeared. Perhaps Gretchen was also due a horrific end in the universe she shared with Donnie. It began to seem to me that Donnie Darko was a sort of minor messianic figure, and that his arc throughout the film had been a complete exposition of what he had been born capable of, along with his high level of intelligence described by his headmaster as being "intimidating", and his various psychological difficulties, all of which could easily be imagined accompanying a sense of purpose so dark as his was.
    Of course, that's only my interpretation of who Donnie Darko was. And I've little doubt that I'll watch the film again within the next year.

  • @gisel2115
    @gisel2115 13 годин тому +8

    Honestly I’ve seen so many explanation videos on this and this is BY FAR my favorite! Can’t wait to make my fiancé watch this after he watched the film for the first time 👏🏻

  • @Ketobbey
    @Ketobbey 3 години тому

    This was the most clear and easy to understand but didn't take any leaps to make sense of the movie. Thank you

  • @nihilismistheonlyway4680
    @nihilismistheonlyway4680 16 годин тому +6

    One my favorite movies ever! Love your explanation. And I liked the idea he sacrifices himself to save Gretchen from the time-line where she dies.

  • @craigherriot4026
    @craigherriot4026 День тому +11

    Excellent analysis. Brought some much needed understanding to me. Liked and subscribed.

  • @Grav3s07
    @Grav3s07 12 годин тому +3

    I love this movie so much i got a sleeve dedicated to it 🙌
    Great work 🤘

  • @patchwork_cat
    @patchwork_cat День тому +8

    Excellent analysis, you are good at this

  • @Nick-Nasty
    @Nick-Nasty 8 годин тому +2

    This will always be perhaps my all-time favorite movie. Only contender would be the dark crystal

  • @snowfort77
    @snowfort77 9 годин тому +2

    Great video. You should make a video about the deeper meaning of Sphere.

  • @Turtlpwr
    @Turtlpwr 12 годин тому +2

    Great analysis. Liked and subbed

  • @jayfrmsset
    @jayfrmsset 4 години тому

    i remember seeing this movie when i was a kid & just rewatched it & you dropped this video right on time. love the movie!

  • @QuickJoshy
    @QuickJoshy День тому +7

    I feel like the "rules" set by the Philosophy of Time Travel could be a great basis for a game. It's the exact kind of bizarre reality that you would see from a Remedy or Supermassive title.

  • @Nate_ROB_
    @Nate_ROB_ 8 годин тому +1

    Amazing video just after I watched a video about "the Internet not being cool anymore"

  • @kneelbeforezod2160
    @kneelbeforezod2160 10 годин тому +1

    I absolutely love this film. The visuals down to the soundtrack.

  • @nathanochoa6178
    @nathanochoa6178 День тому +1

    Keep doing what you’re doing, Thomas! You’re killing it!

  • @sanzbozo
    @sanzbozo 14 годин тому +1

    Thank you! I loves this amazing movie, one of the best I've seen.

  • @slavitdeezer
    @slavitdeezer Годину тому

    Its horror, suspense, sci fi, dark comedy, drama, psychological thriller, and has that raw indie feel, rolled into one.

  • @DayPlayer_CB
    @DayPlayer_CB 18 годин тому +2

    Awesome video essay. Donnie Darko has a lot to chew on.
    Just rewatched the movie last week and noticed a few new things to me and I haven't heard anyone else mention them. When Donnie first sees the 'directional blobs' it's during an NFL game with the Washington Redskins. The team logo had a profile of a Native American with 2 feathers fixed in his hair pointing down. If you imagine the feathers pointing up they resemble the shape of rabbit ears.
    The student Frank has many features like that of an Indigenous person. Also Cherita Chen, the girl at school with the earmuffs on (She's the one who gets freaked out and runs off after Donnie promises her one day things will be better for her). Although an Asian character her darker skin tone and higher cheekbones are like that of Native American women seen in old western photos.
    Both Frank and Cherita do acts of creation related to the events leading to Donnie's sacrifice. Frank of course made the rabbit costume that Donnie has visions of. Cherita did an interpretive dance at the talent show wearing a white dress that resembles the white robe worn by 'Grandma Death' when she causes Frank to swerve his car away and accidentally run over Gretchen. Cherita used a giant fan with leaves blowing on the stage which is mirrored in the crash scene which has a howling wind.
    All combined it seems to me there's an intentional allusion to Native Americans being key influences in the events leading up to Donnie stopping the 'end of the world'.

    • @nihilismistheonlyway4680
      @nihilismistheonlyway4680 15 годин тому +1

      I've seen the movie like literally 30+ times and have never picked up on that but I'll keep it in mind for the next time I watch it.

    • @DayPlayer_CB
      @DayPlayer_CB Годину тому

      @@nihilismistheonlyway4680 Cherita is way more in the movie than I'd noticed before. Sits right behind Donnie and watches intensely when Gretchen sits next to him. Also when the teacher played by Noah Wyle gives Donnie the time travel book Cherita is just outside the door listening in on the conversation.

  • @darkemperor418
    @darkemperor418 6 годин тому +2

    The conversation was to show how powerful a superhero Donnie was. Not only could he travel through time in wormholes and channels he could also travel through God’s channel without disrupting the fabric of space and time including his own future.

  • @uphillracer
    @uphillracer 18 годин тому +1

    Good work!

  • @sonpham32
    @sonpham32 Годину тому

    Nice Muholland Drive lamp in the background.

  • @jasongarcia2140
    @jasongarcia2140 9 годин тому +1

    I've talked about everything in the movie but yeah nice one mate

  • @BrendanPramjee
    @BrendanPramjee 11 годин тому

    Interesting analysis.. theory ... whatever way you interpret it... It's a masterpiece and it's very moving

  • @beck713
    @beck713 12 годин тому +1

    Great video! I've been puzzling over this movie since I saw it in high school.
    Any plans to revisit the Creep franchise now the The Creep Tapes miniseries is out?

  • @-WillAlone-
    @-WillAlone- 16 годин тому +4

    I liked Kelly's other film: Southland Tales, with the rock.

    • @MrXHCx
      @MrXHCx 13 годин тому +1

      Hellll yeah, southland tales us so underrated

    • @-WillAlone-
      @-WillAlone- 12 годин тому +1

      @MrXHCx Have you ever seen; Beyond the Black Rainbow?

    • @MrXHCx
      @MrXHCx 12 годин тому

      @-WillAlone- yeah, i liked it, though it was a little slow. I liked Mandy too.

    • @-WillAlone-
      @-WillAlone- 12 годин тому

      @MrXHCx Mandy was Hard.I noticed that yt just released 12 Monkeys for free!

    • @-WillAlone-
      @-WillAlone- 12 годин тому

      Mandy is Hard! I recently seen that Yt released 12 Monkeys for free.

  • @MDBowron
    @MDBowron Годину тому

    I always thought that Donnie Darko was always destined to die and that the tangent universe was to make Donnie die under his own choice as a hero saving the universe like a Christ like figure, he also gets to do things most teenagers would dream, exposing pedophiles, trashing school, standing up to teachers, having a girlfriend and having sex, being a superhero and saving the world, live life to its fullest so he can also sacrifice himself out of acts of love for his friends and family. I hope this makes sense.

  • @QuantumTelephone
    @QuantumTelephone 14 годин тому +6

    Donnie Darko is about circumcision. Thank me for this insight.

  • @ganabharathgaming7305
    @ganabharathgaming7305 13 годин тому +1

    One of my favourite scifi movie 😍

  • @BellsCuriosityShop
    @BellsCuriosityShop 13 годин тому

    The film is great. I just thought i was weird until i noticed that it was taught during media studies class at a school i workd at.

  • @Clementine_D
    @Clementine_D 8 годин тому +1

    I adore this film.

  • @c-r3187
    @c-r3187 2 години тому

    “It’s A Wonderful Life” …
    The future, our future
    possibility as opposed to finality
    Necessity versus contingency
    Interconnectedness versus disconnectedness
    The existential predicament we find ourselves thrown into
    and
    the point at which some of us come to the realization that we are all standing at the edge of the abyss… meaninglessness…
    The infinite state of nonbeing that is moving towards every one of us as the seconds, minutes, and hours tick by.

  • @soda989
    @soda989 15 годин тому +1

    *subscribed*

  • @Williamfuchs420
    @Williamfuchs420 11 годин тому +1

    Odd i always took the rabbit as a Harvey reference. The old movie where a guy has a invisible giant rabbit friend named Harvey

  • @ali.stair2000
    @ali.stair2000 3 години тому

    I don't think his death is sacrifice; it's completion. He didn't necessarily have to die after he'd completed his task as the receiver, so it was ultimately his choice to go on and maybe that's why he's laughing right before.

  • @malking5226
    @malking5226 4 години тому

    Why no mention about ‘Evil Dead’ being listed above ‘Last Temptation of Christ’ on the movie house marquee?

  • @-WillAlone-
    @-WillAlone- 16 годин тому

    You guys should check out:Archives Final Project! It reminds me of Donnie Darko a bit.

  • @digitalcoffin666
    @digitalcoffin666 День тому +2

    If Frank's objective, as every other Donnie assistant, is to help him fulfill his role of staying in his bedroom, under the engine, to die... then why is the same Frank speaking to him at night, making him leave the house to avoid said engine?

    • @denisehiggs8938
      @denisehiggs8938 День тому

      Because the engine that was supposed to hit him, went into the tangent universe. Frank needed him alive to fix things, and send one back to correct time.

    • @digitalcoffin666
      @digitalcoffin666 День тому

      @@denisehiggs8938 how did donnie send one back?

    • @mydragonseyes8177
      @mydragonseyes8177 16 годин тому +1

      Because the sacrifice has to be a choice for the time loop to be closed.

    • @digitalcoffin666
      @digitalcoffin666 11 годин тому

      @@mydragonseyes8177 why?

    • @DoctorSess
      @DoctorSess 11 годин тому +5

      @@digitalcoffin666if I answered that I could lose my job.

  • @leroybrown8926
    @leroybrown8926 4 години тому

    I think it was necessary for Donnie to die at the end of the film. Frank calls him out of the house and saves Donnie so Donnie can save the timeline by destroying the tangent universe. Donnie saves the universe at has own expense. Donnie is a flawed and troubled character. Was it suicide or completing the destruction of the tangent universe? Hero or antihero? I think hero and saviour as opposed to antihero and suicide.

  • @TAStormChasing
    @TAStormChasing 5 годин тому

    Can anyone tell me the significance of Cherita Chen? If there is any? To me its more than just a crush on Donnie. It seems like she knows more of whats going on & what will eventually happen to him. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. Thanks!

  • @DamianBartolacci
    @DamianBartolacci 9 годин тому +8

    He can’t continue the conversation because Donnie is brining up God and religion in a public school.

  • @LawrenceMorgan-u5y
    @LawrenceMorgan-u5y 3 години тому

    Preterism says that we are in the little season

  • @ir9567
    @ir9567 21 годину тому +3

    I knew you'd do me proud. This movie is my generation's 'IT''. Aka EVERY person under 35 but mainly us in our early 20's, were 'culturally hit' with this movie.
    Did we get it? Not fully and that wasn't the point although we did try very hard, but the soundtrack became the soundtrack to our lives and the ironic iconic juxtaposition of actors like 80's heartthrob Patrick Swayze alongside 90's tabloid party girl hipster child star actress Drew Barrymore with revered working actors 'where you know the faces but not their names' like the actress playing his Mother, ignited a fire in Hollywood towards Independent movies.
    No one knew what it meant but everyone knew Donnie Darko.
    Why is your essay so good?
    Partly seeing your genuine interest in understanding life and partly through your background as an active Christian-taught/partook Bible study or/and went on missionaries, so you understand the value in sharing information to an audience.
    It's not the best by far but nevertheless the best explanation of Donnie Darko I've read/heard/viewed since it came out in the 2000's.
    Nothing was new about the information you shared. What was new, was the explanation.
    I am a non labeler but if you had to stick a label on me it would be Atheist, but as I get older and gain a greater passion for Learning, the more important I find Christianity is to Cultural Society; exist-in celebration as much as judgement, not only the latter.
    Christians convey a great appreciation for communication, which is charming and transformative. It means that when you do tackle knowledge you wish to share, their is an effort to make the information digestible, coherent and valuable to the viewer/participant/listener/reader.
    This unfortunately very short video essay was not about how smart you are, how complex the movie is therefore showing how smart you are to get it, nor how stupid we all are if we are not able to get it.
    In short, it was not convoluted, pompous, pretentious, elitist, meandering and exclusive.
    So Thank you for that.

    • @aislynnmari
      @aislynnmari 17 годин тому

      I'm 39 and my generation was still hit too! ❤

    • @nihilismistheonlyway4680
      @nihilismistheonlyway4680 15 годин тому

      I'm very atheist and very anti religion but as I get older I see why "regular people" need it in their lives to explain the existential happenings... so i don't hate as much anymore.

  • @General_reader
    @General_reader День тому +2

    Someone tell me, is the sequel worth watching?

  • @chadkleckler5180
    @chadkleckler5180 2 години тому

    I always interpreted the cause of the fracture between universes to be Donnie escaping death. I watched the director's cut on DVD when it came out as my first viewing so I was aware of the book pages. It was still my first thought and I could never rationalize entirely why it seemed Donnie was both the cause and solution to the the universe tearing apart, but it seemed correct. It was always the same issues I pondered when I was a child being taught about Christ. Why would a God need to have his creations torment him and ultimately sacrifice himself to himself to save everyone else? I don't know, but it seemed to be the same with Donnie. His death was crucial, necessary and inevitable, but at the same time, like Christ, he had to choose it.
    Unknowable things is all I can tell myself so I can sleep at night.

  • @matthewtaylordeoppressolib7141
    @matthewtaylordeoppressolib7141 3 години тому

    I thought the rabbit was referencing Harvey the invisible rabbit fey spirit

  • @TheCalebcook
    @TheCalebcook 21 годину тому +3

    My favorite movie. My favorite scan is when they are all sitting and having dinner and Donnie and Suzanne start going at each other and it ends with the little girl saying “what’s a fuck ass” and the dad cracks up

    • @steviewolfeofficial
      @steviewolfeofficial 12 годин тому

      I loved when he faked coughed to choke his laughter when the teacher said Donnie told her to shove the life line card up her ass lol

  • @user-gp5kh5tu4k
    @user-gp5kh5tu4k 13 годин тому

    What other film would use Greene´s short story The Destructors...

  • @johnathan7258
    @johnathan7258 5 годин тому

    I'm voting for Dukakis

  • @lordsolo
    @lordsolo День тому

    i was expecting this to have 10000 views

  • @zirsqlid6343
    @zirsqlid6343 4 години тому

    I dated Joanie in my junior year I'm high-school

  • @bazookaace
    @bazookaace 5 годин тому

    Wow a Donnie Darko analysis. I sure hope the UA-camr doesn't explain the whole fucking movie instead of talking about his theory

  • @zirsqlid6343
    @zirsqlid6343 4 години тому

    Anderson California 2002

  • @dangheathen
    @dangheathen 8 годин тому

    He did it to save his girlfriend. Period. He died to save his girlfriend.

    • @TAStormChasing
      @TAStormChasing 6 годин тому

      And his lil sis & mom right? They were on the plane.

  • @JesusGarcia-fx9dz
    @JesusGarcia-fx9dz 9 годин тому

    COUSE AND EFECT..thats the only truth .. the merovingian

  • @lawrencelewis1570
    @lawrencelewis1570 15 годин тому +1

    It's hard to share opinions on the internet without sounding like an asshole. I'm not trying to be, and your video is very good, I'm just genuinely confused by this movies popularity and supposed depth.
    The "deeper meaning" you're talking about isn't deep. It's the surface level point of the movie. DD is not subtle in its messaging.
    And im really not trying to say I'm super smart - I'm not, I'm a complete dumbass - but from the first time i watched this movie when i was like 16, this is how I've understood it. I don't get why people act like it's such a profound and mysterious movie. It's just time traveling Jesus.
    I don't begrudge people loving the movie, I'm glad people like it - and i have a lot of love for some very bad movies so i have no right to judge taste anyway - this is just one that really baffles me. What am i missing?
    Anyway, i subscribe because i like how you approach analysis and your presentation is really good.

    • @snowfort77
      @snowfort77 8 годин тому

      Its seems to be because you believe in Jesus and Christian faith. Or more specifically you don’t see possibilities beyond that boundary of thought. What if God does exist but we think of God in the wrong way and religion is meaningless other than what psychological effect it has on us as humans? Morality being good not for its practical use as part of a social agreement to sustain life, but for the fear of damnation in the imagined afterlife. Innate behaviors vs taught behaviors. Love vs fear.

    • @lawrencelewis1570
      @lawrencelewis1570 8 годин тому

      ​@@snowfort77I very much do not believe in Jesus or Christianity, the movie just very obviously presents Donnie as a Jesus figure. A sacrificial lamb. It beats you over the head with it.
      I mean it's a rabbit that starts him down that path. Rabbits are associated with Easter. The holiday co-opted to be about Jesus sacrificing himself.

  • @HenryCasillas
    @HenryCasillas 3 години тому

    🧭

  • @zachmegna7003
    @zachmegna7003 16 годин тому

    Please do the sequel of donie darko

  • @ShaggyShagz13
    @ShaggyShagz13 4 години тому

    Donnie Darko is more more realistic than jesus and much better written than the bible.

  • @edgyman-fk
    @edgyman-fk 13 годин тому

    I think it's almost certain he didn't have to die. He may not have even realized it, but he had already corrected course by sending the engine.

  • @50Nobody50
    @50Nobody50 12 годин тому

    This was back when Maggie still had the chance to grow into her looks, and Jake was still trying to decide if he wanted to be him or Wes Bentley.

  • @coda821
    @coda821 12 годин тому

    Donnie Darko is about dealing with a future so evil & unacceptable, that the person sees no way forward after what has happened. Of dealing with guilt for actions, or inactions that lead to destruction of life & soul. A future so unlivable that bending time, & changing the past, seems like the only way forward.

  • @JesusMessiahAmen
    @JesusMessiahAmen 54 хвилини тому

    I'm gay

  • @davidjones8043
    @davidjones8043 12 годин тому +2

    Bruh the directors commentary said Frank was an ANGEL
    And Donnie had no control over the engine falling… NONE. He was a LIVING SACRIFICE. Yea at the end, he could have gotten out of the bed. But he knew what needed to happen at that point.
    I feel like you DEFINITELY did not watch the directors cut and all the extra content. Do that and make a new video, idk … you’re WAY off in a few assertions

    • @DreadPirateRobertz
      @DreadPirateRobertz 7 годин тому +1

      No one's taking advice from someone who says "bruh"

  • @ChryI
    @ChryI 12 годин тому

    Shame the sequel sucked so much.

  • @distinctloafer
    @distinctloafer 46 хвилин тому

    One of the most boring movie that I never finished watching.

  • @Kaiser-in2od
    @Kaiser-in2od 16 годин тому

    I have a large tatoo of a Shadow (demon) on right fore arm... It's done in a more....... Let's say...... Animated.. art style. Still totally obvious it's a shadow demon, but because the horns on his head are slightly.... Askew (twisted, off-center) whatever, they curve, and one curves more than the other (that's what she said), I drew it my last year of school while tripping on L.S.D....Everyone ask me if it's supposes to be the rabbit from this film.... It's not, no base here at all. Literally the only things in common they have is the "ears" and the dark color scheme. Like srsly, dude is a large black shadow with red eyes, claws, and horns, how you thinking it's a rabbit?
    But yeah, it's been over a decade of people asking me if it's this fuckin rabbit.....must just be because so many people my age watched this movie. Must be the freakiest thing most of them could fathom or something I guess......
    Trust me, if you looked @ a picture of both of them, you'd understand the amazing reach all these folks are making.
    Kinda pointless comment, but still felt compelled to share here.

    • @Kaiser-in2od
      @Kaiser-in2od 16 годин тому

      TL;DR: I have a big 'ol shadow demon inked on my arm. Everyone always asks me if said demon is the Donnie Darko rabbit. It's not. And that comparison is a hell of a reach...

    • @Kaiser-in2od
      @Kaiser-in2od 16 годин тому

      TL;DR: I have a large shadow demon inked on my forearm. For 14 years everyone has asked me if said shadow is supposed to be the Donnie Darko rabbit. It isn't. And that comparison is one hell of a reach if you've ever seen it....

  • @ThisiswhyWecanthavenicethings
    @ThisiswhyWecanthavenicethings 16 годин тому

    The manipulated living will do anything they can to stop the receiver from completing his goal
    No one helped Donnie
    They all tried to distract him or stop him from completing his goal you got that part wrong but you tried harder than most do

    • @popejaimie
      @popejaimie 14 годин тому +1

      Everything they did brought him to the right place

    • @ThisiswhyWecanthavenicethings
      @ThisiswhyWecanthavenicethings 14 годин тому

      @popejaimie nope wrong again. No one told Donnie where to go or what to do or helped him get anywhere
      Donnie decided against his own free will and decided to follow the path of God
      Which is why when he awakes in the end he laughs because he knows everything he has done never made a difference
      The evil he sought so hard to destroy the entire movie will continue and he has to die to save the girl he now loves instead of stay alive to destroy the evil he knows exists and will pray upon everyone.
      But everyone is untitled to their own opinion and interpretation

    • @ThisiswhyWecanthavenicethings
      @ThisiswhyWecanthavenicethings 14 годин тому

      Another thing I was pointing out is he didn't read that part
      It specifically says they will do anything to stop the living receiver from fulfilling his destiny because it leads to their universe not existing
      And it also just plain says that in the book title transition in the directors cut

  • @-WillAlone-
    @-WillAlone- 16 годин тому

    Self sacrifice isn't always about physical death.Sacrifice the ego and God will guide you without anything in the way.

  • @marcob2137
    @marcob2137 День тому +2

    Overrated movie.

  • @RefinedHonkey
    @RefinedHonkey 12 годин тому

    Movie was a set back for schizophrenia and sufferers of the disease. Seldom does one of the sufferers see such vivid hallucinations. Most are auditory.

    • @DoctorSess
      @DoctorSess 11 годин тому +1

      Ok but that doesn’t change the fact that some people do have vivid visual hallucinations. I knew someone who would straight up see angels and demons standing in the kitchen.