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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This Video is Part 2 of the Best Attachments for Gravel Driveway Series. In this video I try out the 3 point land plane. It's an RK by King Kutter 7' Dual Edge Land Grader and I have it hooked up to the RK 55. It worked very well especially for the first time using it, abetter test will be when I use it somewhere that doesn't have an oversupply of 2b limestone on it.
The Dual edge land plane in the video can be found at www.rktractors.com
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The gravel guy is selling them the marble rock cause he knows he can resell them every couple of years. 😉. Some people buy what you sell them with out educating themselves first. Nice job though on what you did.
Next time you adjust for your crown lower the opposite side than you lowered in this video. The way you adjusted it counter acted the way the rock should move across the blade due to gravity pulling it to one side. You want the rock to flow from low to high. I could be wrong but when I adjusted mine that way it seemed to have a better finish. Just a suggestion.
You should give a tutorial to municipalities on how to build and maintain roads! Nice job!
Hi Mike
I've operated motor graders for about 20 years now and have built many roads ,
I think you are absolutely right in what you say about building roads and a lot of people
Will learn the correct way from watching these videos . As for that road with all that loose stone ,it might be as well to just add fine material on a wet day or add water afterwards that will then tighten up a bit . Keep them coming Mike 👌👍
@Ryan Robinett Around where I live, only the commercial industry calls it what it is. Residential places (sell by the yard instead of truck) all sell it as crusher run.
Crush and run is for roads ... gravel is for septic and drain fields .... Do you want your road to be sewage?
When you have less gravel on the road, adjust the right side of the land plane about 2 inches lower than the other side. You can run the right box end right on the edge and salvage the rock that the blade looses off to the overflow. Only tool I use on my drive.
For the land plane, travel with the edge of the driveway to your right to move the material to the center to form the crown. Start on outside and move towards center with each subsequent run
That clean stone is for backfilling retaining walls, it doesn’t hold water so less problems with freezing n thawing. Need some lime to pack the rock together on a road. Thumbs up
When you level the landplane, Ive learned to keep the front blade about a quarter inch higher than the rear. If you really need to recreate the surface, drop it down with both blades. The point being, it provides a less destructive "cut" which moves less material and creates a smoother finished surface.
The blades are angled to carry material to the left side of the attachment. The idea behind this is to drive as if you were in a car, right side of the road, it pulls material from the right edge and deposits it on the left side of the attachment. Which would be in the center of the road helping make a slight crown if you had a driveway that was two passes wide.
Nice video.
But what if your driveway is just the width of one car, how do you form a crown with a 72inch grading scraper? You would have to grade the grass along the road correct?
@@dpayne7571 you can adjust the landplane using the 3 point so it is tilted (higher side on left, lower side on right). It will cut down the low side and drop material heavier toward the center.
One of the best investments to my Tractor was adding a hydraulic top link. I can adjust my implements on the go without having to get off and adjust every time it needs it.
Lots of control w this thing. Might be worth you looking into. It’ll save you lots of time and hassle.
As already stated; 'another nice video series' about the use of this equipment and the art of graded road maintenance.
Totally agree that using an 'open graded' stone like that (B2 limestone) is not right. There are 3 reason roads fail; 1-water/drainage; 2-water/drainage, and 3-water/drainage. I learned long ago, you have to keep water from getting to the subgrade.
Using the 'crusher run', which is well-graded, will compact better and provide a seal against water moving through the stone and into the subgrade. FYI, the term 'well-graded' means various sizes of the stone. Like you stated, 3/4" down to dust. You need those small sized particles to help compact and seal the surface. Open-graded mean 'all one size' and therefore voids that allow water to move into it.
Bingo! Well said and I agree completley
I could tell you were pretty excited about this episode and trying out that land plane. Five hand rubs in the intro and another 7 hand rubs in the conclusion. GiddyUP.
Looking forward to more of the land plane usage. Diggin' the music, as usual. Ya wanna borrow my "Road Closed" sign until you get that bad boy the way you like it?
Best thing I ever used was a three point York rake with a wheel kit... if you unhook the top link and let it ride on wheels you can fine tune it down to a frog hair
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Just can’t back up with it unless the wheels are far enough away from the rake to swivel 360... been in the excavation business for over 30 years
Man that road slipery with all thes marbuls .
Mike, looks like you got a good handle on using the land plane. The road looks good. Hope you can get some crush-n-run to mix in with that pebble stone. Nice video and thanks for sharing. Thumbs up.
Does it have a float mode? Not sure if that will will make using that land plane easier. Great job!!! Love the videos.
Just curious Mike, would putting "crusher run" dumped on top of the #2 limestone and then graded help keep the "marbles" from rolling?
A land plane really shines when your road has washboards
If that was MY lane, I'd create a toll booth for those living there. No passage unless beer is handed over...lol
I've always been told for gravel roads should have a crown in the middle so the rain runs to the edge of the road??????
Correct and it it does
I feel your plain ... in our subdivision the neighbors keep getting gravel as its cheaper, spreads further, and recommended by truck drivers ... no no no... crush and run dudes ... it locks into place like concrete. I cought one guy filling potholes with top soil ... no no no ... dont want to grow grass here
Good job Mike. Thats a lot of traffic. Keep the video's coming. As usual they are always great.
Looks like a great piece of equipment.
Another great video Mike. I too have a 7' Land Leveler and love it. I raise the front of mine slightly to allow the gravel to more freely rollover the top and back...kind of like a mini waterfall. Also you might want to get a quick hitch for all those 3 pt hitch implements. I have one the back of my Kubota M7060 and its a life saver! Like I said yesterday, based on your video of the heavy duty blade from Rural King I'm probbaly going to get one but one with hydraulics to make it easier for me.
You didn’t have the grader set up correctly! The rear blade wasn’t even touching the Gironde so the limestone was just going under it! You may have thought it was flat when you set it up on the concrete but even you drop it it will take the slack out of the top link and pop the rear of the grader up unless you add preload in the top link. Kind of like putting tension on it so there is pressure on the back of the grader!
Another great video. Not sure how much better you're going to get the road with the box but looking forward to seeing it. Nice job.
Why didn't you explain the set up for the land plane. ? Is it supposed to be level? or cant?
Hi Mike nice video having thr right equipmant makes life so much easier i also like the fact you introduce the music in your videos very few do that well done Mike
I've seen where people put limestone dust over what you have there and made a good road out of it.
I really appreciate the three-part presentation on maintaining a gravel road with various tractor implements. Your set up and commentary is on point and your delivery is unassuming, but confident. I've been subscribed to your channel for quite some time and enjoy the content of virtually all of the videos. If there is there is one negative, and i realize this has nothing to do with the content or quality of information, but the music is often a distraction. The music on this video is actually annoying. I'd rather hear the engine on the equipment running or simple silence than the music. OK, that's enough with the negative. Again, I'd like to commend your commentary, content, and videography. Best of luck with the RK tractor line up and all of your projects. You've convinced me to take a good look at the RK tractors for work on my own land.
These RK folks make some nice stuff!!
Great videos Mike. Waiting for number three!
Great Gravel Road Series !
now the road looks to nice to drive on, great job
Seen alot of people use that rake for driveways too
You could sell gravel off that road. :-)
Looks like it smooths it out good!! 👊
Another great job!👍❤️
Need to pull in the excess from the sides. Shouldn’t have what looks curbs on the sides.
Yea I know that, to much gravel and I didn't want to mix dirt in with it, if I had brought anymore out cars would be spinning on it and really making a mess. What needs done (if they wanted to is to haul out lots of gravel thats on there) then do ditch lines and grade road
Really nice design. I don't reckon I have seen one of these. I'm impressed👍 oh and by the way we love Rural King we make a family outing there once a month to get a months worth of feed. Have to drive a little piece to get there but we still save money. Another top notch video.
That seems like alot of people driving on YOUR road?
scott k, they live there I dont lol
Sure made the lane look really nice when you were all finished,,, and yea i can see there is a ton of stone on the vert edge where it meets dirt ... but it looks beautiful now ,, from what i can see on the video,,, i have asphalt drive 180 feet long ,, but my neighbor has gravel so i level his out every spring with my box blade ,, and my machine is much smaller than the one you are using but still box blade does a pretty good job...
Box Blade has been my favorite attachment for years
Nice video. I agree it looks like way to much gravel.
Great video 👍😀😎
You are brilliant, Mike! Would you recommend a resource that would educate a “rock head” like myself on how to construct and maintain a road? I’m new to land ownership.
Jason Shaw Here is an excellent video for that. ua-cam.com/video/t4qhgkl9WqM/v-deo.html
Hey, thank you! Your recommendation was very helpful and I subscribed to the channel.
You definitely need some crusher run on that road. We have a similar product here they call class 2 crushed granite. I’ve used it for our paver patio base, under the shed and a parking pad on the side of the garage. It compacts very hard. You were right the land plane is a one trick pony but does that one trick very well. Thanks for the tutorial! How many residents are off of your road?
Just three homes back there (I don't live there) the lots are like 5 to 10 acre size, and I sold one big lot which was just a big valley that had frontage off another road. I was thinking when I was out there I paid 95K for those 40 acres, today it would have been between 500 and 600K. Like I always say when you buy land you can't believe how expensive it is but when you look back years later you can't believe how little you paid for it lol.
Ain't the truth Mike, I know from personal experience when I over-paid for a tiny lot by more than 10% the going rate, only to have it appreciate by over 16.5K %
Cool attachment Mike.nice job.never saw one either. I agree too much stone.maybe they could get just dust next time.we call it 1-2 modified.and there's different grades of that.2b usually used here
Mike what would sand do over this stone??? I just got some property and have a narrow road through a swamp on both sides that comes to the back side of the property... That's where we are moving our cabin... Front of property is on a street with a few homes so I'm blocking that end off... The road in the back is long and rough but it seems like your out in the wood... 40 acres behind that property were trying to buy.. Our property gives that property, or could, electric and access...
Another great video.
I continue to learn things from your vast store of knowledge.
Side note: I use epidemic sound, as well. It’s nice, at times, to only play the instrumental part, because the vocals ( or lyrics) simply detract from the video I’m trying to present. In fact, sometimes I’ll simply use a couple of stems, overlaid. Play around with it, and you’ll be able to avoid a Wifty souding beatle, from Norway.
( My two cents, and worth every penny you paid for it ...)
Rewatched! Love the box blade usage on driveway maintenance...love it
I have long considered a land plane. I have not used one but watched several videos on using them. I agree it appears there is too much gravel which just magnifies the moving of the gravel to the side. However, if you can get down to the base you put down and mix it with the added gravel, that might help solidify it from what I have watched, the land plane is intended to cut the top surface off down to like bottom of potholes and evenly distribute the material and maintain that crown. What I saw is almost no gravel was going over the second blade. So it was more like a box blade it looked like in this case.
In our situation the gravel was put on fairly thin with fabric to keep the softer spots from absorbing all the gravel and still be soft. Want the land plane, just not sure I wouldn't tear the fabric by accident.
I watched the video at 2X speed. I would like to have watched it at 10X because of the length of that driveway! That's a great road....
That is a biz driveway we get road pack i think it is ca6 around here but i looks nice a works good ! Curt :-)
I agree totally about the rock they used. It never packs and is hard to plow. I plow snow on some lanes with this type of 'bigger round' stone and all I do is plow this expensive rock off to the side of the road. Great idea you have doing a 3 part on these attachments. Getting lots of info!!!
I like the land plane but I think it would be a better tool if you could offset it behind the tractor. Pulling rock back onto the road would be a lot easier. I have a 1/4 mile of road and use a box blade once a year and a standard blade a few times to keep it up.
Thought the blades were supposed to be set at different angles, so what the front picked up the rear would place where needed
It doesnt look right almost like your taking the crown out of the road and pushing it to the sides ?
Thanks for the video Mike and great demonstration! I am waiting on my Land Pride land plane delivery to rework my lane. Looking forward to playing.....
Great series! You could maybe pull the ditches a little more and mix some of the dirt in with the stone. Just a suggestion. Hard to try and get those marbles to stay on the road and not washboard.
the cutting edges on your landplane arent adjusted correctly.
Sure a lot of traffic on that private drive. How many people love on it.
I do not mind the ads that You tube inserts in your productions if it helps pay for royalties for music or pay for new video cameras. I liked seeing all the attachments you are using.
Ronald Schmidt, thanks I appreciate that. I pay monthly now for the music through epidemic sound. Recently bought another camera, and hopefully this summer get a real nice DSLR.
Ads, you mean you see ads, I don't see any "Ads" .....I feel deprived....NOT... that's 'cause I use Ad-Blocker software and get just the "meat without the "smoke and sizzle".....got to love it.....LOL
Well I do see them and do not mind if it helps the Morgans fund the music and camera equipment.
Actually I don't mind them either, since even though they're there they don't register in my mind. Similiar to "white noise" it's there but I don't "hear it". I have that software built-into my head..... Am I an odd-ball? ....LOL
Excellent job. Still loving the free education.
do you rent the plane? can you include prices please. thanks love your set up
You could have done the same with a box blade, yes?
I hope you’re. neighbors know how. lucky they are to have making their road home a nice ride.
Mike, by any chance, you don’t have coupons for RK implements you are showing us? :)
lol
Outdoors With The Morgans : Hey..great Idea !!! ✅ Discount Morgan Code ✅
Those coupons would be useless to me. That's the problem with being Canadian, no RK stores this neck of the woods.
Comfy Bear : No Coupons just wishful thinking 🤔 💭
RK is selling them tractors dirt-cheap!!! If they had a TYM badge on them, they'd have fewer options and the price would be a few thousand bucks more. I suggest you buy one before RK wisens up and jacks up the prices to match their twin brother" TYMs Then you'd definitely need discount coupons. LOL
Having never used a land plane before, it sure looks useful.
Another great one. I cant wait for your next videos. looking forward to them.
Looks good
Nice job Mike and the music great once again, That land plane is a neat tool.
If you ever needed a job you could work for the county
👍 Always used 2b modified here.
With the Land Plane can you still keep crown in road or does it shave it off? I’m using box blade on road and with that I can maintain crown in road. Around here we use 21-A on road, that’s 3/4 gravel (57) mixed with stone dust, it’s like concrete after a few weeks of traffic, hard on box blade ripper teeth when you want to brake it up and fill in potholes. Thanks Mike (buddy) for all info..
You can adjust cutting edges to build and maintain crown
Here I am in Harmony, received my brand new tractor 5 days ago, tons of projects to do but I can’t do anything because it’s all muddy and cold. Sucks.
yep
There is so much gravel on that road
Try the land plane on the driveway for the "new" house. It may help to put some fines into that mix to keep it from moving; see if the gravel quarry sells something like half inch to dust size gravel, top the road with that then go back and mix it with all the stone that is there. I am not sure how well that would work. it looked a bit like you needed to drop the right hand side while you were working it, level knocks the crown down is how it was appearing. Work in progress, use it until you know it. Thanks for the video.
The driveway at the new house needs a lot, won't know till a scrape a few inches off but probably base rock then, crusher run on top. Maybe even geo first
would like to see you address fixing potholes in stone drives, this is always a struggle they keep appearing
That will be with the box scraper, have to rip the material out all around and refill, not just fill the pothole, I have some that will be in the box scraper video
Do the gravel roads see any hard compaction? Rollers or wacker plates? Or does the snow just heave everything around?
This one the problem is to much of the wrong stone, just car and light vehicle traffic pushes and rolls the stone off to the sides
thanks for your advice
Nicely done. Thanks
IS R.K. available in Canada yet
Love it.... this is the best!
nice Vid Mike is this land plane designed for making a crown in a driveway ? it looks like it to me
Yes, you can adjust the cutting edges as well as the entire unit
Hi Mike. Are you able to put a slight crown on the drive with that land plane? Up here (NE MN) we use a lot of class 5. 1/2" - 3/4" gravel mixed with clay. No marbles effect like you're dealing with. That box reminded me of our ballast regulator when I worked on the railroad.
Hi Ray, Yes you can adjust the actual cutting edges inside the plane to adjust for crown
Nice. ua-cam.com/video/D0p6R9eDXX4/v-deo.html Here is a ballast regulator like I ran. You can pull the ballast up and tuck it into the ties. Dusty work when running the rear broom.
Please send specification
Float, draft controll or constant depth adjustment?
I adjusted on the fly
My gravel drive is about 250' - 300' long. I'm getting some dippty doos on the lower side where I had to dig trench across to in install a gas service line to my house. I have a 6' rear blade for my kubota, but think the box blade would serve me better. I'm looking into buying one or the other which do you recommend? My tractor is a 30 HP. L Series, would a 5' be too much for my tractor? Also are both pieces of equipment about the same in price? Love your video's. Thanks for sharing their very helpful.
If buying one or the other I would say box blade, just make sure it's a little wider than your rear tires
Do you like your RK tractor over your Kubota if you were going to buy one
That’s a loaded question. He has a contract with RK now. Probably not the best time to expect an unbiased comparison.
Who handles the snow on that road in the winter? Love the land planer!
I don't know who they have do it
To big of a bit at a time
Great job Mike
if you made the road why are they putting stone down
I bought the property years ago, built road, subdivided and sold lots, They were going to form homeowners association and I would deed the road to them. They never formed association
Dude what are you doing your taking the crown off the road
Ive actually found a crown holds water on the driveway because it creates a natural dam straight up the center preventing water from draining across the road. Most ground slope one way or another. Might not be visible but it does. I have 800 feet of driveway perfectly flat and never have standing water. That said, if your road is physically higher than the land that surrounds it, a crown is the perfect shape.
does your tractors have down force pressure?
No, just the weight of the implement
Good stuff!!
The land plane looks like it does a great job. How many people use your road? Do they help maintain it?
I don't live there but I own the road, I explained it all in video, yes the pay to maintain it
It's good that they help with the maintenance. Keeping up a road is a lot of work.
How many homes are on the road? I was amazed at how many vehicles you encountered. Do you have to plow this when it snows? Keep the videos coming. I look forward to them.
Looks like at times you were cutting the crown out of the drive.
Plenty of crown in it
You can tell sitting in the seat, sometimes hard to show things in video that you can only feel when sitting in seat
10-4
That’s a lot of rock!
yes way to much