Hi, I'm a farrier and I'm sure you've learned a lot since this video was posted but I wanted to share some things. This horse was extremely upright in this video. The foot being symmetrical and the foot being balanced are two different things and medial/lateral balance is what is important. A concept of anatomy is a MUST. When a horse is so upright like that it adds so much unnecessary strain. Keeping the foot symmetrical does not fix the problem. The flare is happening because the foot is not balanced. Start with your knifework. In a lot of cases you can take off the top layer of the frog until you can see the point of the frog. Meaning you can see where the "tip" of the frog actually blends into the sole of the foot. This helps you know how much sole you can take off with your knife. Knifework is important because it allows you to actually see how much hoof wall you need to take off with your nippers. With many horses you need to take off more on one side to ensure the foot is balanced. Taking an equal amount from each side isn't usually the way to go. I also would almost never start my nipping at the quarters, especially if you aren't an experienced farrier. It is so easy to create low spots in your quarters.
There is SO much more hoof that needed to come off. You don't want the heels to be completely even with the toe like that. The plane of the foot that needs to be met isn't just a horizontal line. The frog is supposed to be able to actually make contact with the ground as it is an important concussion absorber and traction device. You were hesitant to take off heel because you said that's just how he stands. He's only standing like that because of how the foot is trimmed. The goal of farriery is to correct these issues to get the horse comfortable and closer to the ideal foot. When you're dressing also make sure to put a big bevel on there so the hoof wall doesn't chip or crack. This is not meant to sound stern or mean in any way I'm rooting for you just want to see that horse comfy and help ya keep learning :)
Thank you so much for your advice! I completely agree with all of your constructive criticism, and I really appreciate it. I have learned a lot since I made this video, but there is definitely more to learn, and I try to gather as much information as possible so this was very helpful. Let me know if you have any other thoughts and information to share. I know there are a lot of diy hoof trimmers like myself that watch this video, so I want everyone to get the best information they can. Comments like yours are very helpful.
When I started taking care of my horses hooves I could not use the nippers for the life of me. I guess I am just that weak but my farrier did mention his hooves were really hard so that might also have been an obstacle. So I was stuck with just using a rasp. Took ages but it worked. Reason I started was because Luke would never stand still for the farrier and the farrier kept blaming me. Mean while Luke always stood like a saint for me no matter what I was doing with him. So stopped calling the farrier and did it myself, no issues. (Did a lot of research first of course)
I applaud you doing your own and going barefoot..I paid a lady from Philadelphia area early 2000's to teach me for 8 hours how to trim hooves..I had one horse and after 24 years of marriage was on my own with one income so I had to learn where I could cut expenditures..the initial cost of the lesson and the tools was high but I saved a bundle by doing my own every 4-6weeks ..I learned the mustang roll because I feel barefoot is healthier..any medical issues would be a vet and farrier option..for more info on the mustang roll there are many many videos to learn from ..your doing a great job..it is a learning process..you made it through med school you can do this with ease..my horse had nasty flares especially if I wasn't able to stick to my 4-6week schedule..again watch the videos..although I haven't had a horse since the last one passed in 2015 I plan on getting another this year..hr death still saddens me and I couldn't find it in me to replace her..you will find the more you handle and trim his hooves he will come to love it..mine would see me with my equipment and she would whinny and come running..I didn't have to tie her she just stood until I was done..best of luck to you..as always prayers and blessings to all
Thank you so much for sharing. I appreciate that you show your flaws cuz as I'm starting to trim my own, I'm making many mistakes that I have to fix. I got SSSOOOO tired of lazy farriers making there toes really long and their heels really short. They would do the same to my donkeys. You're way of teaching is so much easier to understand. You explained that you start flat on the quarters and add the angle at the toe. No one has ever said that before. That helped a ton!
Thank you! ❤good job! I totally agree barefoot horses should be done by the owner all the way! My herd of 4 all hate farrier and act up-costing way more-I started doing this myself and they don’t give me any trouble-some inpatients w me in the beginning cause I’m very slow but they know me and trust me now it’s so much easier! And I save some money for other horsey things!
thank you you explained better than a farrier I did my horses for about 6 months cuz I was short on money my farrier said I did good but I really didn't understand what I was supposed to do , he just said not to cut into the yellow line but you explained it great
I am just starting to TRY and trim my own horses as I just can't hardly find a farrier, let alone one that does not underun the heels ... anyway it is HARD work ... lol😅 This horse has pretty nice hooves, so you are doing a great job! Thank you!👍
Thank you so much, and just keep practicing! You'll find that it'll get easier and faster the more you do it, and if you do some rasping in between your trims, you end up having to do less nipping each time.
This is worth the watch, Hi it’s me again, I wanted to send you a something I think you like . I don’t know if you seen it or not here it goes The Anatomically Correct Trim (tact) Video: WARNING HOW YOU SHOULD NOT TRIM THE HEELS .
@@earthandmedicine3667 ELPO Barefoot Triming Protocol (Updated 2017) this video will show how to find the sole,pillar’s . I like the part where he doesn’t cut anything, he just grabs it and peels it off allowing natural separation for sole depth. Same with the frog he peels it off and not cut anything. Afterwards he dose take his knife and cleans it up and shows a spot where there was dirt lines under waxing sole. (Place where I wold stop not knowing) With his knife he finds true sole on 1 side very easily and works his way around and at the same time he explains his mental mapping skills talks you threw it word for word describing every move before he attempts and commit to and why then he proceeds to prove him self . In your case I bet you can put down your nips and just use a rasp. I bet
Linda from TACT used ELPO for years, until she studied, dissected, and researched deeper than anyone I know, with simple, plain English language. DON'T USE ELPO!! KEEP THE HEELS!! YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG INSTINCTIVELY AND INTUITIVELY!!! That's why I was so very pleasantly surprised, then depressed when you backed down, understanfably, when everone confronted you. Listen to her videos and keep trusting your heart. ua-cam.com/video/q3KolQHQb7M/v-deo.htmlsi=BDLDo8sCrohoeajQ
Hey...look up Bud Nippers. They are out of idaho falls I believe. 279 for the compound leverage nippers and you replace the blades! Great reviews and increases the pressure 18 x or something. Been around for a long time. I m gonna get a set . I have mules!! I'll LET my farrier use them on my guys and have him show me some tricks. 😉
Those nippers look awesome! Definitely looks like they give so much more leverage. I have found also that if I start with a very small nip and keep following that line, and try not to take bigger bites, I am able to do the cuts while using less force. When I try to take too big of a bite in order to go faster, that's when I end up needing help due to my grip not being strong enough.
I have often looked at the car jacks and wondered if one would work for a hoof stand. Thanks for sharing your learning process. My trimmer taught me to do maintenance rasping between her 8 week trims and just in the last year i have taken on the complete trims. Check out David Landreville's trim methods. Implementing is teachings has made a big difference in correcting hoof distortion for my gelding who has not the best conformation in his legs. I was able to attend Davids clinic in person last September and it was a great experience. You are doing very nice work.
That is so awesome, I'd love to attend a clinic! I have been asking tips from my farrier which has helped me progress and understand the hoof more since I made this video. I will make an updated video eventually. Thank you for sharing your experience too!
thank you for picking up his hoof's with a purpose. always ask your self why and you did when you started with his hind leg you started at his quarters and why? because it all ready was cracking, and obvious. im with tubagoblin please start with your knife, your knife has a shape to it for a reason. the curve in your knife is so that you can reach before you nip. Bring his sole down as much as needed. you have to find it even if its a person finger nail width. this way you have a staring point with how much to nip. ill call it mental mapping. mental mapping you got it! after a while you start to under stand more and more as you and your horse grows together. start with your knife at the toe bring sole down as much as needed if you shave a fine piece of sole off as little as a human finger nail width and that is all that's need awesome. after you started with your/his knife advance to the nippers And again start at the toe and map 50 percent to the left and leave 50 percent of the toe to the left other words from the toe 50 percent to the inside and 50 percent to the out side nip 1 side evenly then come back to the toe and nip the other side as even/true as the other side. in the video you pick up a foot and pointed out the knob looking things those knobs on the front corners are pillars . they to have a function. As your horse walks the hoof has to tip. its all ways the opposite. its not what you want its what he needs. again thank you
Thank you so much for this amazing constructive feedback, that is very helpful! I will definitely start applying that and hopefully have an update video to share
Glad I found this video! Great info. We bought our Daughter her first horse (a 4yo OTT) and he's a smart beautiful horse but not knowing much about horses in general we relied on recommendations and long story short the most recent farrier absolutely screwed up his last trimming and now that he's jumping (training him to be a Hunter/Jumper) he developed a limp and thought he hurt something jumping. We actually have a Chiropractor that puts him back into alignment and she found the farrier didn't clean his frogs etc. and trimmed his hooves so uneven he's walking like we'd walk in a pair of shoes with a missing heel. We no longer use that farrier but now he's only allowed to walk, trot, canter until the Chiropractor makes a return visit...in 10 weeks! My Daughter was crushed because now he cant even show this summer. I'm trying to get all the knowledge so I can start doing it or at least know what to look for so thank you.
Hi there, thank you for the question! Yes I did leave his heels long in this video, I'll make another one soon with some updates. Now I bring their heels back more to make sure their heels don't get under run.
Hi there! I have only used the standard nippers that I got from Tractor Supply, and they can be a little difficult if you have small hands. I've found that if I start with a smaller nip, and work my hands up the nippers as I squeeze the nippers, I'm able to use the full force of the nippers. I've seen someone else comment about a compound nipper, and this looks like a great idea! They look pretty expensive but they are probably really great!
First thing you could do is put that halter on correctly you have the knots right over the soft part of his nose halter needs to be raised so that chin Pieces come up on the chin not hanging down
Lol yeah it definitely helps too when you're moving or haven't set up with a farrier that you trust yet, and you can still get their feet done! Thanks for watching :)
Thank you for your video, so encouraging seeing all the people who have learned to do things themselves. Infact, it encouraged me just to take me horse and instead of working him in the feild i took him down the road where theres an outdoor concrete basketball court and 20 min later his hoovs looked much better. I need to order my kit from amazon, but all that to say i was encouraged
That's awesome, I'm so glad you are inspired! That's my goal :) it's super fun to learn the techniques and muscle memory. And feel encouraged to ask your farrier for advice as well, I do that also!
Hi, I'm a farrier and I'm sure you've learned a lot since this video was posted but I wanted to share some things. This horse was extremely upright in this video. The foot being symmetrical and the foot being balanced are two different things and medial/lateral balance is what is important. A concept of anatomy is a MUST. When a horse is so upright like that it adds so much unnecessary strain. Keeping the foot symmetrical does not fix the problem. The flare is happening because the foot is not balanced. Start with your knifework. In a lot of cases you can take off the top layer of the frog until you can see the point of the frog. Meaning you can see where the "tip" of the frog actually blends into the sole of the foot. This helps you know how much sole you can take off with your knife. Knifework is important because it allows you to actually see how much hoof wall you need to take off with your nippers. With many horses you need to take off more on one side to ensure the foot is balanced. Taking an equal amount from each side isn't usually the way to go. I also would almost never start my nipping at the quarters, especially if you aren't an experienced farrier. It is so easy to create low spots in your quarters.
There is SO much more hoof that needed to come off. You don't want the heels to be completely even with the toe like that. The plane of the foot that needs to be met isn't just a horizontal line. The frog is supposed to be able to actually make contact with the ground as it is an important concussion absorber and traction device. You were hesitant to take off heel because you said that's just how he stands. He's only standing like that because of how the foot is trimmed. The goal of farriery is to correct these issues to get the horse comfortable and closer to the ideal foot. When you're dressing also make sure to put a big bevel on there so the hoof wall doesn't chip or crack. This is not meant to sound stern or mean in any way I'm rooting for you just want to see that horse comfy and help ya keep learning :)
Thank you so much for your advice! I completely agree with all of your constructive criticism, and I really appreciate it. I have learned a lot since I made this video, but there is definitely more to learn, and I try to gather as much information as possible so this was very helpful. Let me know if you have any other thoughts and information to share. I know there are a lot of diy hoof trimmers like myself that watch this video, so I want everyone to get the best information they can. Comments like yours are very helpful.
When I started taking care of my horses hooves I could not use the nippers for the life of me. I guess I am just that weak but my farrier did mention his hooves were really hard so that might also have been an obstacle. So I was stuck with just using a rasp. Took ages but it worked. Reason I started was because Luke would never stand still for the farrier and the farrier kept blaming me. Mean while Luke always stood like a saint for me no matter what I was doing with him. So stopped calling the farrier and did it myself, no issues. (Did a lot of research first of course)
Thank you for sharing, that's awesome that you've been able to do it yourself!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts as you did your trim. You did an excellent job handling his feet as he would pull back.
I applaud you doing your own and going barefoot..I paid a lady from Philadelphia area early 2000's to teach me for 8 hours how to trim hooves..I had one horse and after 24 years of marriage was on my own with one income so I had to learn where I could cut expenditures..the initial cost of the lesson and the tools was high but I saved a bundle by doing my own every 4-6weeks ..I learned the mustang roll because I feel barefoot is healthier..any medical issues would be a vet and farrier option..for more info on the mustang roll there are many many videos to learn from ..your doing a great job..it is a learning process..you made it through med school you can do this with ease..my horse had nasty flares especially if I wasn't able to stick to my 4-6week schedule..again watch the videos..although I haven't had a horse since the last one passed in 2015 I plan on getting another this year..hr death still saddens me and I couldn't find it in me to replace her..you will find the more you handle and trim his hooves he will come to love it..mine would see me with my equipment and she would whinny and come running..I didn't have to tie her she just stood until I was done..best of luck to you..as always prayers and blessings to all
Thank you so much for sharing. I appreciate that you show your flaws cuz as I'm starting to trim my own, I'm making many mistakes that I have to fix. I got SSSOOOO tired of lazy farriers making there toes really long and their heels really short. They would do the same to my donkeys. You're way of teaching is so much easier to understand. You explained that you start flat on the quarters and add the angle at the toe. No one has ever said that before. That helped a ton!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts as you did your trim. You did an excellent job controlling his feet as he would pull them back. Good Job!
Thank you so much!
Thank you! ❤good job! I totally agree barefoot horses should be done by the owner all the way! My herd of 4 all hate farrier and act up-costing way more-I started doing this myself and they don’t give me any trouble-some inpatients w me in the beginning cause I’m very slow but they know me and trust me now it’s so much easier! And I save some money for other horsey things!
I don't own a horse however I find this fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
Aw thank you so much Elisa :) I'm glad you enjoyed it
thank you you explained better than a farrier I did my horses for about 6 months cuz I was short on money my farrier said I did good but I really didn't understand what I was supposed to do , he just said not to cut into the yellow line but you explained it great
Thank you so much, I'm glad this helped you! It has been very fun learning how to trim hooves, I hope you enjoy the learning process as well :)
I am just starting to TRY and trim my own horses as I just can't hardly find a farrier, let alone one that does not underun the heels ... anyway it is HARD work ... lol😅 This horse has pretty nice hooves, so you are doing a great job! Thank you!👍
Thank you so much, and just keep practicing! You'll find that it'll get easier and faster the more you do it, and if you do some rasping in between your trims, you end up having to do less nipping each time.
This is worth the watch, Hi it’s me again, I wanted to send you a something I think you like . I don’t know if you seen it or not here it goes
The Anatomically Correct Trim (tact)
Video: WARNING HOW YOU SHOULD NOT TRIM THE HEELS .
Thank you for sharing, I'll check it out!
@@earthandmedicine3667 ELPO Barefoot Triming Protocol (Updated 2017) this video will show how to find the sole,pillar’s . I like the part where he doesn’t cut anything, he just grabs it and peels it off allowing natural separation for sole depth. Same with the frog he peels it off and not cut anything. Afterwards he dose take his knife and cleans it up and shows a spot where there was dirt lines under waxing sole. (Place where I wold stop not knowing) With his knife he finds true sole on 1 side very easily and works his way around and at the same time he explains his mental mapping skills talks you threw it word for word describing every move before he attempts and commit to and why then he proceeds to prove him self . In your case I bet you can put down your nips and just use a rasp. I bet
@rdfairbank3387 thank you so much, I'll check it out!
Linda from TACT used ELPO for years, until she studied, dissected, and researched deeper than anyone I know, with simple, plain English language.
DON'T USE ELPO!! KEEP THE HEELS!! YOU WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG INSTINCTIVELY AND INTUITIVELY!!!
That's why I was so very pleasantly surprised, then depressed when you backed down, understanfably, when everone confronted you. Listen to her videos and keep trusting your heart.
ua-cam.com/video/q3KolQHQb7M/v-deo.htmlsi=BDLDo8sCrohoeajQ
Hey...look up Bud Nippers. They are out of idaho falls I believe. 279 for the compound leverage nippers and you replace the blades! Great reviews and increases the pressure 18 x or something. Been around for a long time. I m gonna get a set . I have mules!! I'll LET my farrier use them on my guys and have him show me some tricks. 😉
Those nippers look awesome! Definitely looks like they give so much more leverage. I have found also that if I start with a very small nip and keep following that line, and try not to take bigger bites, I am able to do the cuts while using less force. When I try to take too big of a bite in order to go faster, that's when I end up needing help due to my grip not being strong enough.
well done, good job - thanks for sharing!
Lee, farrier at Olsen Equine, has a vid on barefoot trims that is well worth a gander. Beveling the hoof edge, & other great tips.
I have often looked at the car jacks and wondered if one would work for a hoof stand. Thanks for sharing your learning process. My trimmer taught me to do maintenance rasping between her 8 week trims and just in the last year i have taken on the complete trims. Check out David Landreville's trim methods. Implementing is teachings has made a big difference in correcting hoof distortion for my gelding who has not the best conformation in his legs. I was able to attend Davids clinic in person last September and it was a great experience. You are doing very nice work.
That is so awesome, I'd love to attend a clinic! I have been asking tips from my farrier which has helped me progress and understand the hoof more since I made this video. I will make an updated video eventually. Thank you for sharing your experience too!
Great video! Thanks!
Aw thank you!
😮great job thanks for sharing👍🏻🙏🏻🫶💫✨
Thank you!
nice video, I find it less stress on my body using a hoof jack
Yeah I agree, I haven't been using it as much lately, but when I do my back hurts less
thank you for picking up his hoof's with a purpose. always ask your self why and you did when you started with his hind leg you started at his quarters and why? because it all ready was cracking, and obvious.
im with tubagoblin please start with your knife, your knife has a shape to it for a reason.
the curve in your knife is so that you can reach before you nip. Bring his sole down as much as needed. you have to find it even if its a person finger nail width. this way you have a staring point with how much to nip.
ill call it mental mapping. mental mapping you got it! after a while you start to under stand more and more as you and your horse grows together. start with your knife at the toe bring sole down as much as needed if you shave a fine piece of sole off as little as a human finger nail width and that is all that's need awesome.
after you started with your/his knife advance to the nippers And again start at the toe and map 50 percent to the left and leave 50 percent of the toe to the left other words from the toe 50 percent to the inside and 50 percent to the out side nip 1 side evenly then come back to the toe and nip the other side as even/true as the other side.
in the video you pick up a foot and pointed out the knob looking things those knobs on the front corners are pillars . they to have a function. As your horse walks the hoof has to tip. its all ways the opposite. its not what you want its what he needs.
again thank you
Thank you so much for this amazing constructive feedback, that is very helpful! I will definitely start applying that and hopefully have an update video to share
Glad I found this video! Great info. We bought our Daughter her first horse (a 4yo OTT) and he's a smart beautiful horse but not knowing much about horses in general we relied on recommendations and long story short the most recent farrier absolutely screwed up his last trimming and now that he's jumping (training him to be a Hunter/Jumper) he developed a limp and thought he hurt something jumping. We actually have a Chiropractor that puts him back into alignment and she found the farrier didn't clean his frogs etc. and trimmed his hooves so uneven he's walking like we'd walk in a pair of shoes with a missing heel. We no longer use that farrier but now he's only allowed to walk, trot, canter until the Chiropractor makes a return visit...in 10 weeks! My Daughter was crushed because now he cant even show this summer. I'm trying to get all the knowledge so I can start doing it or at least know what to look for so thank you.
Great video - thank you! But why are you not using a Jackhoof?
I sometimes use a hoof jack but since my ponies are so small I end up just holding their hooves
Nice 😃
Thank you:)
(Front hooves are symmetrical - both sides same width but hind feet are asymmetrical... one side is always wider than the other side.)
Thank you so much for your constructive feedback, I will definitely look for that next time!
Just a question...as I do my own horses. Aren't your heels still quite high ?
Hi there, thank you for the question! Yes I did leave his heels long in this video, I'll make another one soon with some updates. Now I bring their heels back more to make sure their heels don't get under run.
You want to learn bare foot trim . Look up Dr Redden 4 point trim ( 1987 ) video is 11 maybe 12 yrs old . He is a master .
Thank you so much, I'll check it out!
Please look up F-Balance Trimming by Daniel Anz.
Sounds good, thank you!!
From hairline to tip of heel 2 inches . Goid job
Thank you :)
Excelente, debes usar soporte para apoyar las patas y trabajar más cómoda y cuidar de no dañar tu espalda.😊
Thank you!
❤️
Like new!
Haha agreed ;)
You might need to use the full leverage of your tool 05:24
Haha I agree, I have been working on that lol
What’s the best nippers for weaker grip?
I would like to know too. I have tiny hands and I struggle greatly with the current nippers I own
Hi there! I have only used the standard nippers that I got from Tractor Supply, and they can be a little difficult if you have small hands. I've found that if I start with a smaller nip, and work my hands up the nippers as I squeeze the nippers, I'm able to use the full force of the nippers. I've seen someone else comment about a compound nipper, and this looks like a great idea! They look pretty expensive but they are probably really great!
First thing you could do is put that halter on correctly you have the knots right over the soft part of his nose halter needs to be raised so that chin Pieces come up on the chin not hanging down
Thank you!
13:44 soak the hoofs first
Thank you, will do!
brain vs brawn
Learn anatomy, find the landmarks of the foot. Don’t put leverage in the hoof where it doesn’t need it
Thank you very much, I will do that! :)
Your hoof still looks way too long:/
Thank you for your advice!
So what's ASMR?
Warum strahlt ihr euer Video in Deutschland auf Englisch aus ? Wer soll das verstehen ?
Fantastic video. Thank you for your time. Im trimming my own now because it seems all farriers are unreliable drunkards 😅
Lol yeah it definitely helps too when you're moving or haven't set up with a farrier that you trust yet, and you can still get their feet done! Thanks for watching :)
Thank you for your video, so encouraging seeing all the people who have learned to do things themselves. Infact, it encouraged me just to take me horse and instead of working him in the feild i took him down the road where theres an outdoor concrete basketball court and 20 min later his hoovs looked much better. I need to order my kit from amazon, but all that to say i was encouraged
That's awesome, I'm so glad you are inspired! That's my goal :) it's super fun to learn the techniques and muscle memory. And feel encouraged to ask your farrier for advice as well, I do that also!