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  • Spacedock returns to the Third Age of Mankind for a look at the venerable Hyperion Class.
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  • @Spacedock
    @Spacedock  3 роки тому +130

    I suspect Babylon 5 fans in particular might enjoy our original science fiction Audio Drama; The Sojourn. Check it out here!
    www.thesojournaudiodrama.com/

    • @georgejcox9241
      @georgejcox9241 3 роки тому +2

      Are you doing A another Christmas special breakdown like you did last year ? Because it was one of your best ever.

    • @Dodderytrain877
      @Dodderytrain877 3 роки тому +3

      Do you have an estimated time when the sojourn will come to audible? Im still holding one of my monthly credits for when it finally comes to the platform! :)

    • @stephengonzalez2997
      @stephengonzalez2997 3 роки тому +2

      That is a great analogy 😎👍

    • @tba113
      @tba113 3 роки тому +1

      @@Dodderytrain877 I'm eagerly waiting for that, too. Though, there seems to have been some kind of slowdown with things making it to Audible the past few months: the Audible version of a book that came out in September is still almost a week away, so the holdup may not be specific to The Sojourn.

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov 3 роки тому +1

      Will you do a video on the Poseidon carrier? I know they never appeared on the screen, but they were featured in the board game, and I think it’s still considered canon

  • @davebignell773
    @davebignell773 3 роки тому +318

    That opening quote... Possibly the only quote more powerful from In The Beginning is when Emperor Londo Mollari was speaking of the war...
    "The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. But where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; they would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage, their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years. They never ran out of courage. But in the end, they ran out of time."

    • @chrisbingley
      @chrisbingley 3 роки тому +9

      H. G. Wells said something very similar aout the British in War of the Worlds.

    • @ozcotto8103
      @ozcotto8103 3 роки тому +10

      I love how this video has the same song from that quote in the background.

    • @spamviking
      @spamviking 3 роки тому +28

      One of the reasons I never liked the Minbari was that they were perfectly happy to commit genocide over an honest mistake that was frankly their fault.

    • @Johmpa
      @Johmpa 3 роки тому +18

      @@spamviking I think the balance of blame lies on Earth for the instigating incident. The Earthforce commander had a history of shooting when in doubt. The minbari had no way of knowing their scanning equipment was so powerful they effectively overloaded the earth ships sensors making them think they were being jammed.
      The degree to which the Minbari conducted the war was of course extreme, though I think the lions share of the blame there lies with the warrior caste. Like Lenonn said in the film, the warrior caste loved to win and against the humans they could not lose.
      Being backed by intense anger from the populace at large who did not ever see the effects they had free reign show their dominance for the first time in long time.

    • @michaeld.uchiha9084
      @michaeld.uchiha9084 3 роки тому +28

      As some blue friend once said:
      "Never push the pink skins to the thin ice".

  • @darkleome5409
    @darkleome5409 3 роки тому +261

    They never ran out of courage. But, in the end, they've run out of time

    • @Kainlarsen
      @Kainlarsen 3 роки тому +15

      "They never *ran* out of courage. But in the end, they *ran* out of time."
      Sorry to be nitpicky.

    • @darkleome5409
      @darkleome5409 3 роки тому +3

      @@Kainlarsen are you happy now?

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 3 роки тому +12

      @@darkleome5409 It’s 2020. No one is really happy.

    • @darthXreven
      @darthXreven 3 роки тому

      @@Justanotherconsumer "walking on a thin line, angry all the time...." -Huey Lewis
      I'd say that confirms it lolz [I am so hooked on Huey Lewis's stuff lately]
      😈

    • @GravisTKD
      @GravisTKD 3 роки тому

      It's still not correct grammatically. "They've ran" doesn't make sense. You'd either say "they ran" (as Kainlarsen wrote) or "they've run," depending on the situation.

  • @ThirdCydonian
    @ThirdCydonian 3 роки тому +157

    Everytime I see an Earth Force ship I think of this: “Only one human captain has ever survived battle with the Minbari. He is behind me, you are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else.”

    • @TheCormTube
      @TheCormTube 3 роки тому +16

      And the line before that was great and to the point.
      "Babylon 5 is under our protection.....Withdraw......or be destroyed...."

    • @richardbroome6405
      @richardbroome6405 3 роки тому +10

      The real lesson here is you don't want to piss off Delenn! When she gets pissed, bad things tend to happen to her enemies. :)

    • @odysseusrex5908
      @odysseusrex5908 3 роки тому +3

      Battle? Or combat?

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 3 роки тому +4

      @@odysseusrex5908 I think the operative term is “curbstomp.”

  • @Takaya_NL
    @Takaya_NL 3 роки тому +129

    I guess it's time to re-watch B5 again, still my favorite sci-fi series after more then 20 years.

    • @isaac3702
      @isaac3702 3 роки тому +7

      Of course. Where else are you going to see a Sheridan give an insult in the form of an apology in the most epic way possible?

    • @danpercz3414
      @danpercz3414 3 роки тому +6

      We could use some more it. With today’s CGI capabilities I think would would be impressive to see.

    • @LARGO125
      @LARGO125 3 роки тому +8

      I wish Strazinsky would go back and HD remaster the series with new CGI like they did with the Star Wars OT and the original Star Trek series. B5 deserves it.

    • @admiraltee
      @admiraltee 3 роки тому

      I hear you!

    • @megamanx466
      @megamanx466 3 роки тому +1

      @@LARGO125 I was about to comment the same thing! I never watched it decades ago, because Star Trek was booming at the time and I was just a loyal teen. In 2020 it's hard for me to watch/play old CGI rendered scenes, but think they should just redo the CGI with more/higher fidelity. 😃

  • @readhistory2023
    @readhistory2023 3 роки тому +144

    I alway loved the B5 ship aesthetics. Futuristic but realistic at the sametime, for Earth Forces anyway.

    • @darthXreven
      @darthXreven 3 роки тому +4

      agreed....
      i think ships here and there from other franchises could work IRL but stuff like the star destroyers are too fantasy but are cool looking...
      you can see in B5 how all the earth ships might have came up from NASA designs originally

    • @KMCA779
      @KMCA779 3 роки тому +8

      @@darthXreven You do know that NASA actually has permission to build the Starfury... provided they keep the name (I think it's the tug version that NASA wanted, high praise.)

    • @modisp
      @modisp 3 роки тому +1

      Also Narn ship design is very sleek, utilitarian but still alien. Probably Mimbari is least favorite. They are cool but too futuristic.

    • @Whitestar901
      @Whitestar901 3 роки тому +5

      @@modisp The Minbari are the oldest of the younger races so the futuristic look of their ships makes sense.

    • @ohauss
      @ohauss 3 роки тому +3

      The only problem I have with B5 ships is a big one - literally. I just think they are way too big. Especially with the level of technology depicted. Star Trek has structural integrity fields, but B5 has nothing like that. And there's no real point in making them that big. Nor are gun barrels of the size these amount to in the end necessary or practical. Inertia is a bitch and the shearing forces upon acceleration of the ship would be massive.

  • @isaac3702
    @isaac3702 3 роки тому +59

    You know, I have you guys of Spacedock to thank for getting me into Babylon 5. It's one of my favorite series.
    I also considered the Hyperion as my personal favorite. I liked it's design and always thought of it as a very robust vessel in combat.
    My headcanon that it was skeletal in the middle to allow for different modules to be attached for different types of missions.

    • @Justanotherconsumer
      @Justanotherconsumer 3 роки тому +2

      My head canon is just that the longer lever arm helps with maneuvering - they needed a longer ship but not a lot of weight, so it’s just a connecting section.

    • @GaldirEonai
      @GaldirEonai 3 роки тому +1

      @@Justanotherconsumer Also presumably you'd want the big radiation-spewing thrusty bits at the end a fair distance from where your bunk is.

  • @A._is_for
    @A._is_for 3 роки тому +66

    B5 is underappreciated

    • @maciek_k.cichon
      @maciek_k.cichon 3 роки тому +7

      not on this channel

    • @Gigas0101
      @Gigas0101 3 роки тому +11

      That show needs a remaster

    • @MisleadTruth
      @MisleadTruth 3 роки тому +5

      At it's time, it was the shit and was a Pioneer on 3D FX.

    • @GaldirEonai
      @GaldirEonai 3 роки тому +1

      @@Gigas0101 Can't happen, unfortunately, since most of the original CG work is lost (it was done on _Amigas._ Who the hell even _remembers_ Amigas these days?) so everything would have to be redone from scratch and that's the kind of investment you're never going to see for a show this old and niche.

  • @eurogryphon
    @eurogryphon 3 роки тому +52

    The Hyperion class was also responsible for the death of the original leader of the Earth Alliance resistance, General William Hague...after he was accidentally double-booked on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

  • @mchief190
    @mchief190 3 роки тому +289

    Ah yes, the Hyperion, aka the Miranda Class of Babylon 5.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 3 роки тому +31

      nope because this one actually works

    • @dreadedpixel9022
      @dreadedpixel9022 3 роки тому +13

      Shes trying and that's what counts

    • @Kainlarsen
      @Kainlarsen 3 роки тому +22

      I always feel like the Hyperion suffered from the Worf effect after the first appearance.
      It was supposed to be this aging but still effective warship, but it's usually just shown getting blown up by Minbari or other EA vessels.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 3 роки тому +10

      @@Kainlarsen Well it was the EA main ship during the Minbari war and we all knew how badly that war went so it was demed to be shown failing ... evne so it was a Hyperion class the only one to sucesfully destroy a Minbari ship and survive.. twice (the first one doesnt count granted as it was a surprise attack in the face)..

    • @daverage4729
      @daverage4729 3 роки тому +5

      @@Kainlarsen Lmao! The Worf effect!!! :) :) :)

  • @stryderprime
    @stryderprime 3 роки тому +39

    Good to see Babylon 5 Ships getting some love!

  • @ponyperson7513
    @ponyperson7513 3 роки тому +22

    we need more Babylon 5, it's so underappreciated

  • @leestewart72
    @leestewart72 3 роки тому +3

    I served on one of those as a junior officer back in the early 50's. Man does this bring back memories.

  • @vanhende
    @vanhende 3 роки тому +76

    video about Babylon 5,
    thumbs up.. sec one .

  • @SeducingJackel
    @SeducingJackel 3 роки тому +5

    ahhh Babylon 5. of all time, will always hold a special place in my heart and dvd rack

  • @colresswesker8912
    @colresswesker8912 3 роки тому +12

    This is some neat timing. I'm in the middle of a B5 rewatch right now.

  • @darwinxavier3516
    @darwinxavier3516 3 роки тому +16

    Londo Mollari : The War. The humans, I think, knew they were doomed. Where another race would surrender to despair, the humans fought back with greater strength. They made the Minbari fight for every inch of space. In my life, I have never seen anything like it; They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones, and then throw themselves without fear or hesitation at the very face of death itself, never surrendering. No one who saw them fighting against the inevitable could help but be moved to tears by their courage. Their stubborn nobility. When they ran out of ships, they used guns, when they ran out guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent. I only hope that when it is my time, I may die with half as much dignity as I saw in their eyes in the end. They did this for two years they never ran out of courage but in the end, they ran out of time.

  • @electrohalo8798
    @electrohalo8798 3 роки тому +69

    tactical, do we gave any tactical nukes left - john Sheridan on the Lexington before sending the black star straight to hell

    • @Rimasta1
      @Rimasta1 3 роки тому +4

      Sheridan loved his nukes.

    • @Whitestar901
      @Whitestar901 3 роки тому +2

      "Affirmative. Three 2 megaton nukes with proximity fuses."

    • @GaldirEonai
      @GaldirEonai 3 роки тому

      @@Rimasta1 John "'Nuke 'em" Sheridan, a meme before memes.

    • @Coolman13355
      @Coolman13355 3 роки тому

      I love that the idea scares everyone else.

  • @chopper2429
    @chopper2429 3 роки тому +7

    Absolute kudos for using the In The Beginning soundtrack!!!

  • @OmegablueWolf
    @OmegablueWolf 3 роки тому +47

    Interesting that the Hyperion that killed hague was named the 'Clarkestown' given that Clarke was the earth president at the time....

    • @marsar1775
      @marsar1775 3 роки тому +13

      Sometimes symbolism is subtle
      Sometimes you have to bash the audiences head in with it

    • @isaac3702
      @isaac3702 3 роки тому +8

      Wow, I never noticed that until you mentioned it.

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel 3 роки тому +2

      It was named after the Monkee's song.

    • @Kainlarsen
      @Kainlarsen 3 роки тому +3

      THIS.
      IS.
      CLARKESTOWN!!

    • @Vaultboy-ke2jj
      @Vaultboy-ke2jj 3 роки тому +8

      It’s Clarkstown though, not named for the president

  • @acarrillo8277
    @acarrillo8277 3 роки тому +26

    Yes more B5 content!

  • @ZVelzy
    @ZVelzy 3 роки тому +56

    I'm simple I see B5 I click

  • @MrBigCookieCrumble
    @MrBigCookieCrumble 3 роки тому +48

    _"They would weep, they would pray, they would say goodbye to their loved ones and then throw themselves, without fear or hesitation, into the very face of death itself. When they ran out of ships they used guns, when they ran out of guns they used knives and sticks and bare hands. They were magnificent!"_ - *Emperor Londo Mollari* speaking about the humans in the Earth - Minbari war.

    • @maciek_k.cichon
      @maciek_k.cichon 3 роки тому +4

      from the best movie in the franchise, although only after watching all 5 seasons

  • @Eviligniter
    @Eviligniter 3 роки тому +60

    Bruh, that's one of my prefered ships of Babs, only the narn cruiser and the Omega are higher in the Rank. Without counting the Starfury of course, that cutie pie is some of the best Fighters in Sci Fi.

    • @maciek_k.cichon
      @maciek_k.cichon 3 роки тому +4

      I would always add Centauri Vorchan in the list of best B5 ships. But yes, Omega and G'Quan are the top pair. (edit: spelling)

    • @VallornDeathblade
      @VallornDeathblade 3 роки тому +7

      Shadow vessels are my personal favorite because they're so completely unlike anything else in the show, they perfectly give off the "eldritch horror fleet" vibes they are supposed to. Outside of them, The Omega Destroyer is a gorgeous ship.

    • @lukesearle1302
      @lukesearle1302 3 роки тому +4

      I must be strange then, I loved the White Stars from the moment I saw them.

    • @Eviligniter
      @Eviligniter 3 роки тому +4

      @@maciek_k.cichon Yeah, the Narn had some pretty classy ships, but after I played an obscure game, Nexus, the jupiter incident, than I loved the central moving centrifugal and other no handwabe g vehicles. And the Narn is just pure coolness.
      @Vallorn
      I really like the shadow cruiser too, but as little kid me they seemd like crabs, so no much creepy feeling from me. Tough when they appeared they looked proper menacing.

    • @Pentagon6519
      @Pentagon6519 3 роки тому +5

      @@lukesearle1302 Always thought they looked like a plucked chicken.

  • @stormcrow28
    @stormcrow28 3 роки тому +8

    One of the more visually impressive ships of B5. The Hyperion is a solid vessel, though she was outclassed by other races' ships. I used a lot of them when I played the Earth Alliance in the tabletop game Babylon 5 Wars.

    • @dianavespid937
      @dianavespid937 3 роки тому +1

      Still playing B5Wars! The Hyperion is definitely on the mid tier of vessels, few league capital ships match the power of the Hyperion.

    • @stormcrow28
      @stormcrow28 3 роки тому +1

      @@dianavespid937 Good to hear. All of my crew have vanished over the years due to time, jobs, etc. I'd love to play again. I found that the Vree Xoor, the Drazi Stormfalcon, and some of the more advanced League races such as the Brakiri, the Hyach and the one that uses all of the molecular tech are easily a match. The Narn G'Quan is a good match.

  • @tba113
    @tba113 3 роки тому +24

    1,500 upvotes, 2 downvotes.
    Well, I guess the Psi-Corps and Interstellar News public accounts are entitled to their wrong opinions too.

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo4378 3 роки тому +19

    One of my most favorite ships in the series, second only to the Star Fury.

  • @dariustiapula
    @dariustiapula 3 роки тому +8

    One of my most favorite ship designs, flying brick.

  • @truckerallikatuk
    @truckerallikatuk 3 роки тому +2

    So much loving the fact you used the music from the President's speech from the Battle of the Line. So emotional.

  • @VallornDeathblade
    @VallornDeathblade 3 роки тому +9

    Hell yeah, more ships from the best TV scifi universe!

  • @thinkingproactive7936
    @thinkingproactive7936 3 роки тому +1

    Great! Please........ more Babylon 5 ship breakdowns!!?? The G’Quan Heavy Cruiser, the Primus Battlecruiser, the Vorchan Warship, Avioki Cruiser, Xorr and Xill War Saucer’s, Drazi Warbirds, on and on! This could be an excellent series just like the Expanse rundown you did.

  • @uss_04
    @uss_04 3 роки тому +6

    Imagine if B5 had the special effects tech and budget of The Expanse.

    • @dougc190
      @dougc190 3 роки тому +2

      It's fine just the way it is

    • @TheMonthlyJack
      @TheMonthlyJack 3 роки тому

      @@dougc190 A remaster of the film and a HD version of the CGI (since the CGI was apparently lost) would be amazing.

  • @randomcoyote8807
    @randomcoyote8807 3 роки тому +4

    Yay! Thank you! More great 90's TV sci fi! Bab5 stuff as well as "Space: Above and Beyond" and "Farscape"!

  • @aliboy357
    @aliboy357 3 роки тому +6

    Don't think I didn't catch "In the Beginning" playing in the video, it was quiet but I caught it.

  • @MorganSeveret
    @MorganSeveret 3 роки тому +2

    Yes! I'm always wait for something from B5. Great work.

  • @anonymousrex5207
    @anonymousrex5207 3 роки тому

    Anyone who has not already watched the show needs to check it out... I still enjoy the sitting down and re-watching the show every few years because its just that good. The story, the characters, the awesome space battles all make this the best sci-fi show ever.

  • @banzeyegaming2234
    @banzeyegaming2234 3 роки тому +4

    Aah, yes, the venerable Hyperion. One of my favorite designs of the series (the Thunderbolt’s at the top of that list).

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter9724 3 роки тому +3

    Of the Earth capital ships we see in B5 the Hyperion class is my favorite. I've always preferred small or midsized ships to the heavy ships like B5's Destroyers, That's a large part of why frigates are my overall favorite ship type but we never see any B5 frigate classes in action though some appear in the tabletop games.

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 3 роки тому +12

    I do miss B5. Godspeed JMS! You know Star Wars, JMS is basically available right now. Hint, hint.

    • @hemaccabe4292
      @hemaccabe4292 3 роки тому +2

      @@chrischreative2245 I've also been saying it for years. B5 had it's problems, mostly I feel JMS didn't really stick the landing. Still, compared to the bozos SW has had? Light years better.

    • @truckerallikatuk
      @truckerallikatuk 3 роки тому +2

      @@hemaccabe4292 JMS was seriously dicked around by the networks, they didn't understand the groundbreaking arc of the series. And in order to ensure the story was finished, he put season 4 and 5 into a blender to get it all done in one season... then they gave him season 5 and he had very little left for the tale. It's all very sad.

    • @hemaccabe4292
      @hemaccabe4292 3 роки тому +1

      @@chrischreative2245 I could go on and on about the prequel trilogy. Still, they're gold compared to the sequel trilogy. They could have got JMS for the sequels and they would have been so much better.

    • @hemaccabe4292
      @hemaccabe4292 3 роки тому +2

      @@truckerallikatuk I don't deny any of that. The networks routinely don't know when they have gold. Look at Firefly. Still, if Lucasfilm had come to JMS with a respectful offer and decent money, I bet he would have been willing to do the sequel series. JMS is a fan just like the rest of us, except he has real talent.

  • @autumngottlieb3071
    @autumngottlieb3071 3 роки тому +4

    I hope to see an episode on the Minbari Sharlin.

  • @patrickdavis8271
    @patrickdavis8271 3 роки тому +1

    B5. A great series! Nice to see you redoing your older videos Spacedock and a nice homage for your 200th ship breakdown episode. ;)

  • @milanondrak5564
    @milanondrak5564 3 роки тому +1

    I like the submarine in space look of the Hyperion.

  • @TheTrueAdept
    @TheTrueAdept 3 роки тому +1

    Oh, the old warrior. ;) The funny thing about Babylon 5 is that its tabletop wargame (B5Wars) is canon, giving us a rather lengthy history of numerous vessels.
    For example, the Hyperions had several distinct models:
    Prototype: multi-purpose ship of the line, the main weapons are five medium plasma cannons and two particle cannons.
    Alpha: effectively a slight refinement over the prototype.
    Beta: missile cruiser, without any other offensive weapon. Mostly phased out after the Sagittarius missile cruiser entered production. Everest likely wins thanks to the Guardian lasers shooting down the missiles and coming into range of the secondary railguns.
    Hecate Alpha: the Hecate designation is given to testbed Hyperion hulls, but in the lead-up to the Dilgar War EarthForce used the Hecate funds to commission more combat cruisers than authorized (the Senate was not amused), specifically Hyperions whose main weapons are four medium plasma cannons and three medium laser cannons.
    Gamma: planetary assault cruiser, equipped with three heavy plasma cannons and two mediums.
    Hecate Beta: testbed ship armed with captured Dilgar bolters (four heavy, three medium, and two light). One ship, later to evolve into the Hyperion Delta. Hecate wins.
    Delta: multi-purpose ship of the line, it's the first Hyperion variant equipped with Dilgar-derived technologies and refinements over old technologies, resulting in better armour, thrusters and reactors (all of which will appear on newer Hyperion variants). Armed with four heavy pulse cannons, three mediums, and two medium plasma cannons. This is the model that killed Dukhat.
    Epsilon: command cruiser with a superior communication suite. Armed with two heavy and four medium pulse cannons and two heavy laser cannons. Hyperion wins.
    Zeta: multi-purpose ship of the line. Actually predates the Earth-Minbari War, but was only put into production during it due EarthForce moving away from ordnance-based weapons. Is armed with two medium pulse cannons and five railguns.
    Theta: multi-purpose ship of the line, armed with two medium plasma cannons, four medium pulse cannons, and four heavy laser cannons (two fore, two aft). After the Earth-Minbari War becomes the main variant.
    Eta: patrol cruiser, armed with two heavy laser cannons and SEVEN medium pulse cannons.
    Lambda: AEGIS cruiser, first fielded in 2257 (during Santiago's first presidency). Has a helluva lot standard particle beams, sensor pods to help targeting fighters, and two missile racks optimized to take on fighters. No other weapons aside for the Interceptors.
    If you want to have the entirety, go ask the man that wrote the fanfic _The Dilgar War_ (The Lightning Count) over at Spacebattles (please note that he took a whole bunch of blurbs and made it into a gripping story about the Dilgar War) and he's one of the B5 gurus. It's pretty interesting when you actually get into the nitty-gritty of Babylon 5.
    By the time of the show, most Hyperions are Thetas, Etas, and Lambdas.

  • @julius-stark
    @julius-stark 3 роки тому +38

    Just out of curiosity, would it be worth covering the Event Horizon, the Roger Young from Starship Troopers, or the Nightingale from the 2000 movie Supernova?

    • @deans9766
      @deans9766 3 роки тому +2

      "Shines the name - Rodger Young"

    • @truckerallikatuk
      @truckerallikatuk 3 роки тому +1

      Oh damned yes. They should release the Event Horizon guide in April 2021, immediately after the April 1st release on the Occurrence Border, the fanon ship from a series of 40k stories with a similarly cursed timeline.

    • @Zachomara
      @Zachomara 3 роки тому +1

      @@truckerallikatuk Personally I think the Event Horizon should be in 2020. It is the year for nightmares to come true, after all.

  • @hvalbein646
    @hvalbein646 3 роки тому +2

    Very nicely done

  • @dylansimmons799
    @dylansimmons799 3 роки тому

    > sees a Spacedock video
    >all ready excited
    >sees that it's Babylon 5 themed
    >*heart racing*
    >sees that it's the Hyperion
    >fuck'n nuts

  • @lukesearle1302
    @lukesearle1302 3 роки тому +4

    I loved B5, I want to watch it again but just trying to find it streaming (legally) is in short supply considering how great it is.

  • @kineticdeath
    @kineticdeath 3 роки тому +29

    as of now when im watching this there is 1 dislike, probably the captain of the Black Star. Take that noob! schooled by human ingenuity

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 3 роки тому +4

      What really gets me, is how the Mimbari will throw a decade long tantrum about the Black Star, when Sheridan basically outsmarted them by using the EXACT SAME tactics they were using, IE faking a distress call to lure them into a trap and at absolutely no point does this seem to twig with the galaxy's biggest toddlers, as they scream and complain about how unfair it was for the enemy who were crippled and had a 1000+ years technology disadvantage, to win just once

    • @BlackNuke145
      @BlackNuke145 3 роки тому

      @@weldonwin Why are they the galaxies biggest toddlers. My BSG memory is hazy

    • @matholomewbrooksopoulos7085
      @matholomewbrooksopoulos7085 3 роки тому

      @@weldonwin I can't wholly agree as I have no recollection of the Minbari sending distress calls to lure EarthForce into a trap. In addition, the Minbari didn't have as much of a problem with losing (after all, they *did* surrender just as they were breaching Earth's defenses) as they did with losing to a dishonorable adversary. They felt like it was cheap. They probably had more sympathy for GROPOS who guilelessly slugged it out. Remember- the Minbari hold honor in the highest regard. To preserve the honor of others is the only time the Minbari can lie and not be dishonored as liars.*
      * - Just because they aren't lying doesn't mean they're telling you the whole truth.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 3 роки тому

      @@matholomewbrooksopoulos7085 The attack that led to the Black Star being destroyed, started with the Lexington's battlegroup being lured into position by a Mimbari shuttle, that was faking being in distress. I'd call that sending a fake distress call. They only stopped at the Battle of the Line because they discovered that Mimbari souls were being reborn in human bodies, meaning they were potentially slaughtering their own kind as they saw it, which was the ONLY reason they stopped a war of genocide against a much weaker opponent, which hardly seems honourable. And then when the Shadows returned and there was a REAL fight, for the fate of all sapient life in the galaxy, the Warrior Caste sat on the sidelines and refused to fight, out of sheer Goddam *SPITE.* Now, tell me, where was their vaunted honour there?

    • @matholomewbrooksopoulos7085
      @matholomewbrooksopoulos7085 3 роки тому

      @@weldonwin Some very good points here. I completely forgot how the battle where the Black Star was destroyed, and yes, it is absolutely hypocritical of the Minbari to act like Sheridan was a butcher when they used the same tactics. That being said, I think the matters of honor are a little tougher. I agree to the extent that they do quite a bit which I would not consider honorable, but I think they're at least mostly consistent when it comes to what they would consider honorable. Trying to genocide a much weaker foe? Doesn't seem honorable to me, but I can completely see how the Minbari would think it was. In Delenn's eyes at the time, the attack by the Prometheus was completely unprovoked and led to the death of Dukhat. I dont think it's outlandish to assume that a lot of Minbari felt the way she did.
      As for the warrior caste - It was spiteful, but there was a little more to it than that, wasn't there? If I recall correctly (hey, I've been mistake before), it wasn't spite alone, but also a reluctance to go on what they considered to be another holy war. I can see how they would consider that honorable.
      Also, it should be noted that even us humans sometimes don't consider being a bit (or very) dishonorable a problem when dealing with the dishonorable.
      Anyroad, great reply. Thank you for making me think.

  • @jarvbricks7422
    @jarvbricks7422 3 роки тому +4

    I love Babylon 5 ships. One of the best and most realistic in my opinion. The series needs a reboot I think.

    • @horatio8213
      @horatio8213 3 роки тому +4

      Not a reboot, but prequel in Dilgar War series.

    • @AlexSDU
      @AlexSDU 3 роки тому +4

      No. No reboot, please. The series already great. What it need is remaster to today's quality.
      But I wouldn't mind if they make a new series based on B5 universe. Perhaps a series about Babylon 4 and it's involvement in the 1st Shadow Wars. Then we don't have to worry about casting, except for the one that play the character Valen, which was played by the late Michael O'hare.

    • @maciek_k.cichon
      @maciek_k.cichon 3 роки тому +5

      I know Straczynski would love to do a remake, but the series is so good with characters, plot and aesthetic that it would be sad to overwrite them. Sequel would be good. B5 needs its TNG.

    • @Kainlarsen
      @Kainlarsen 3 роки тому +3

      I don't think you could pull off a straight remake/reboot. It's too iconic now, and many of the original cast have sadly died. :(
      I would like to see offshoot series given the proper treatment, however. Plenty of room to see the future presented in the original play out.

    • @chrisbingley
      @chrisbingley 3 роки тому +3

      I'd rather they remade Crusade. It didn't even get to finish it's first season, and it was just starting to get interesting (even if the episodes were released out of order).

  • @paulscott2037
    @paulscott2037 3 роки тому +14

    I wish the Hyperion had more of a role in the battle in Severed Dreams. By season 3 they leaned a bit too much on the Omega I think.

    • @maciek_k.cichon
      @maciek_k.cichon 3 роки тому +6

      She had lesser role and appearance, but she was always noticeable.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 3 роки тому +7

      yes.. JMS admited the 2 Hyperions that were part of the fleet that tried to take B5 were taken out by Starfuries offscreen due to serious CGI time limits to render the ep.. even so its a Hyperion and not an Omega or a Warlock the ship that represents the EA in the final B5 decomision ceremony

    • @Darqshadow
      @Darqshadow 3 роки тому +3

      @@sparrowlt what better to use than the warship that has been a symbol of the fleet for decades. Funny part is that it was placed next to a Minabari war cruiser. Those two have a love/hate relationship.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 3 роки тому +3

      @@Darqshadow Also i allways considered the Hyperion a more maneovrable ship in space combat .. the Omegas with that big clunky centrifuge are still bound to aceleration inertias and we see crews standing up in the bridge during maneovers.. even a half G aceleration would throw everyone to the rear bulkheads (unless the Omegas have swiveling modules inside the big spinning section wich would solve that problem). The Hyperion doesnt have that problem since all crew is properly strapped to seats so it can acelerate within the crew endurance to G forces (like ships in the Expanse) also change direction rapidly without throwing off half crew.. its also have excelent weapons coverage all arround the ship and at least the Clarkstown variant (called the Midwinter subclass in fandom) has more than decent front firepower

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt 3 роки тому +2

      @@Darqshadow I absolutelly tought about that back in the day.. dont know if it was intended.. but the 2 ships that started the Minbari war one in front of the other..
      Also we dont know what ship was actually in B5 decomision ceremony.. but the Hyperion herself was one of the ships in the Minbari first contact incident (yes that was confirmed as not to be a CGI bluff) and we know she survived at least until the final battle of the civil war (as she is seen in Sheridan's fleet right before the battle).
      BTW in one of the novels Mathew Gideon was asigned to the Hyperion after the loss of the Cerverus during the time arround the start of the civil war

  • @IamMeHere2See
    @IamMeHere2See 3 роки тому +1

    Fun fact: it was a tradition that warships that used muzzle-loaded cannons fire a full barrage prior to entering port. This was to show that they were not loaded as the ship sailed in with gun ports open & cannons protruding.
    Such a custom is pointless with breech-loading or energy weapons, but that's probably where the Minbari's stupid "peaceful" gesture came from. After all, the makers of "The Hunt for Red October" realized this when Marko Ramius ordered his torpedo tubes flooded but not to open the outer doors.

  • @davidcolby167
    @davidcolby167 3 роки тому +1

    The hyperion is one of my faves!

    • @davidcolby167
      @davidcolby167 3 роки тому

      Seriously, every single Earthforce ship is so...scrappy and underdog-ey, I love em

  • @jamcalx
    @jamcalx 3 роки тому +5

    And it's just good looking.

  • @carsonmccorkle4936
    @carsonmccorkle4936 3 роки тому

    Yes! B5 is back! Always good to see this franchise get the respect it deserves

  • @Justanotherconsumer
    @Justanotherconsumer 3 роки тому +7

    Other than the lack of gravity, which hampers long range missions, the Hyperion seems in many ways on par with the Omega.
    Obviously not much of a “cruiser” if it can’t do the long range missions, but a solid ship of the line for actual combat.

  • @firepatriot42
    @firepatriot42 3 роки тому +1

    One of my favorites in B5. Followed by the starfury.

  • @BlackPanthro321
    @BlackPanthro321 3 роки тому +1

    My favorite ship of Babylon 5 thank you!

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 3 роки тому +1

    I like the look of the Hyperion. You can see it was clearly designed by different people than the Nova and the Omega.
    I’m not sure about the timing, though. I’ve read that the Nova preceded the Hyperion. KarmaTech introduced the Hyperion as a faster, more maneuverable and versatile craft than the heavy hitter like the Nova. She also featured Centauri weapons secretly provided by the Narns. After the war, Rocketdyne took a page of the competition’s book and used the new weapons on the Omega in lieu of the powerful but short-ranged plasma cannons of the Nova, losing only slightly in raw firepower

  • @marcusmanchester7095
    @marcusmanchester7095 3 роки тому +3

    From certain angles, it bears a strong resemblance to the CR90 Corellian Corvette

  • @danielmarshall4587
    @danielmarshall4587 3 роки тому

    Cheers for your time and effort putting this video together.

  • @FangornAthran
    @FangornAthran 3 роки тому

    Always nice to see a B5 ship on Spacedock. Still one of my favorite Sci-fi Shows.

  • @octaviocuesta1155
    @octaviocuesta1155 3 роки тому

    It reminds me of the frigates from the Freespace games! That conning tower amidships in particular reminds me of the UESC MARATHON that Spacedock should totally cover!

  • @vincentgregory1470
    @vincentgregory1470 3 роки тому

    Great to see another ship breakdown vid! And, if the other comments are to be believed, congrats on this being your 200th sb vid!

  • @kentchapple1905
    @kentchapple1905 3 роки тому

    Great video, and always great to see an appearance by Ron Canada!

  • @TheRealTomGreen
    @TheRealTomGreen 3 роки тому +1

    I had been wondering when you'd make this one! Good old Hyperion class

  • @ladycatherinedebourgh2491
    @ladycatherinedebourgh2491 3 роки тому +1

    I've always loved the Hyperion cruisers one of Earths oldest cruisers dating back since the Dilgar war of 2232 but many were destroyed during the Earth-Minbari war. I always think that the Hyperions will consign to the history books not only does the Hyperion look impressive but she also a workhorse of the Earth Alliance fleet all though its to bad that many were destroyed to turn back the Minbari advance.

  • @robskalas
    @robskalas 3 роки тому

    Very glad you covered the Hyperion class! My favorite warship from B5.

  • @dianavespid937
    @dianavespid937 3 роки тому +11

    The Hyperions are chad, its not their fault we see them fighting OP Minbari Sharlins all the time.

    • @Kainlarsen
      @Kainlarsen 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, they got a bum deal.
      I've seen some awesome fan-made renders of improved Hyperions, or even successor models, based on the new Alliance tech.

  • @stephenbond1990
    @stephenbond1990 3 роки тому +2

    Great to see more B5 episodes, thanks again.
    Can you do the Adamant frigate or Arachne cruiser from Battlestar Galactica Deadlock please?

  • @vaidassaldziunas1037
    @vaidassaldziunas1037 3 роки тому +1

    It was the year of virus... the year of quarantine... the year we took back what was ours. It was the year of rebirth... the year of great sadness... the year of pain... and the year of joy. It was a new age. It was the end of history. It was the year everything changed. The year is 2020. The place: yet another Babylon 5 Ship Breakdown on Spacedock.

  • @KJAkk
    @KJAkk 3 роки тому +1

    Has anyone else read The Dilgar War B5 fanfic? A lot of Hyperion and Nova class action in that story.

  • @jonathanf4082
    @jonathanf4082 3 роки тому

    FYI, iTunes and Amazon recently added the original 4:3 version of Babylon 5. The space CGI scenes look a lot cleaner in that format since it isn't just zooming in and cropping, which is why those scenes look like goop in the widescreen one.

  • @craigs71
    @craigs71 3 роки тому

    One of these ships was seen in the exiting the jumpgate B5 in the episode Shattered Dreams but was never seen during the actual fight.

  • @g.waldmeister1851
    @g.waldmeister1851 3 роки тому +1

    I always wondered what happened to the two Hyperions that came through the gate in "Severed Dreams" but weren't seen during the battle at all.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt Рік тому +1

      Acording to JMS they were destroyed by Starfury attacks during the battle.. but they didnt had time to render that (he said if they had done everything that was planned they would still be rendering today)

  • @beishui4480
    @beishui4480 3 роки тому +2

    Please finally do a ship breakdown on space battleship andromeda I just wanna know more about it

  • @roguecaster8715
    @roguecaster8715 3 роки тому

    It would be interesting to see a Spacedock breakdown video on the B-5 station itself. Would definitely be informative.

  • @BasementBerean
    @BasementBerean 3 роки тому

    I watched the Babylon 5 series start to finish when it was new. The Hyperion class cruiser was the first Earth Alliance warship shown on the series.

  • @NLVDragon2054
    @NLVDragon2054 3 роки тому

    Daniel,
    I challenge you to do one on the Earthship Ark from the Canadian TV show in the 1970s called ‘The Starlost’.
    This show starred Keir Dullea of ‘2001: A Space Odyssey’ fame.
    The ‘Ark’ (as it was commonly referred to) was tens of thousands of miles long. It housed dozens of massive bio-domes that were 50 miles in diameter, home to millions of people. Each dome was a different cultural society of people from agrarian to highly technological, who left Earth in a great multi-generational diaspora-due to an unknown cosmic disaster.
    About 100 years into the journey to a new world, some disaster befell the Ark and all the bio-domes were sealed off from each other to prevent further damage. The result of the damage was the destruction of a few of the domes and the loss of potentially millions of people, the fusion engines shut off, and the Ark going way off course headed for a collision with a star.
    The crew mysteriously perished, and 400 years later the residents of the bio-domes forgot they were even living on an ark.
    The reason for this disaster could have been due to an attempted A-I takeover of the Ark.
    Dullea plays a character named Devon who with his friends Rachel and Garth not only discover the truth about the Ark but also set out to save it and reunite all the bio-domes and preserve humanity, while getting the Ark back on course to humanity’s new home planet.
    Also, it should be noted that Walter Koenig (a.k.a. Pavel Chekhov from ‘Star Trek’) plays a nefarious alien named Oro who tries to steal the Ark for his own people’s selfish uses-putting all the humans on it in jeopardy.
    The Earthship Ark is a phenomenal creation that has levels of technological and construction wonders that are mind-blowing-even for a 1970s show.
    Harlan Ellison was also part of the development for the show.
    This is a great space ship to feature on SpaceDock-on par with the Stargate City-Ship Atlantis.

    • @aquariandawn4750
      @aquariandawn4750 3 роки тому

      Damn that sounds good. Have you heard of Blake's 7?It's an English sci fi series from the late 70s,I'm guessing. Awful effects, great story, some of the actors are very good. It can be found here on UA-cam. As well as Space 1999,which has its moments.

  • @DontAskHowIGotIt
    @DontAskHowIGotIt 3 роки тому

    If there's classic sci-fi ready for a modern re-boot, it is 100% Babylon 5. Outstanding work Spacedock, happy 200th ship breakdown!

  • @jensaversjo316
    @jensaversjo316 3 роки тому +1

    The Hyperion! *Squee* That was my favourite ship back when I watched B5 the first time. Sure, she got pushed over in that role by the Sharlin and the Sunhawk, but she is so pretty.

  • @hamder
    @hamder 3 роки тому

    Decided to check out your channel after the Rowan collaboration, immediately subscribed.

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 3 роки тому +4

    Angry starships can be effective fighting ships if you retrofit enough new technology to it. Just attach everything you can invent.

  • @maxlee1423
    @maxlee1423 3 роки тому

    Reminds me of Freespace 2 and Freespace 1 ship design. I guess this is where they got their inspiration.

  • @james8449100
    @james8449100 3 роки тому

    This is one of my all time favourite ships i love the gun sounds

  • @Strife49c
    @Strife49c 3 роки тому +2

    I would love to see a ship breakdown of the Outlaw Star from the anime of the same name

  • @ComradeNerd
    @ComradeNerd 11 місяців тому

    One of my favorite ships in SF because it looks realistic. Like, I could see this (or rather a ship like this) being built in real life one day. Not as a warship, obviously, unless we run into something out there, but as an interplanetary/interstellar starship.

  • @ThunderLord1
    @ThunderLord1 3 роки тому

    Always love these ship breakdowns !

  • @Fulgrim2
    @Fulgrim2 3 роки тому

    Just got this series, liking it so far!

  • @dennymambo
    @dennymambo 3 роки тому

    I miss all the cool sci-fi like Babylon-5 I grew up with :)
    Makes me want to find it online & marathon watch it all again 😂

    • @aquariandawn4750
      @aquariandawn4750 3 роки тому +1

      I've done it. There was a spinoff I passed by, tho.

  • @Jawmax
    @Jawmax 3 роки тому

    I love your top five videos. Could you do on your top five freighters? Hauling cargo is an important job in space.

  • @sparrowlt
    @sparrowlt 3 роки тому +1

    YEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!
    FINALY!!!

  • @jeffreyo.gustafson7626
    @jeffreyo.gustafson7626 3 роки тому

    Excellent B5 content as always!

  • @898792
    @898792 3 роки тому +1

    i never realized how big the ships of b5 were supposed to be. which makes me wonder how a ship more than 1 kilometer long, doesnt have room for any shuttle craft.

  • @nymalous3428
    @nymalous3428 3 роки тому

    1:55 I was under the impression that the Thunderbolt couldn't operate from the older ship designs (which would make sense considering the way the bays are constructed and the manner in which the Aurora Starfuries were flipped 90 degrees to launch)... yes, I checked my B5 material and that is the case. The newer fighter was too large to fit into the older bays.
    2:15 My sources say the Hyperion generally carried two shuttles. It would make far more sense to include one or more shuttles on a ship this size, since docking maneuvers are time consuming and even somewhat risky. Having some smaller transport craft, like a shuttle, would facilitate so many mundane functions that it would be laughable to leave them out. Now, a given Hyperion might have lost its shuttles or had them down for maintenance...
    2:35 I always had problems with the "gun ports open, as a sign that our hands are empty" policy of the Minbari. What the heck are the gun ports even for? It just seems to go beyond reason and logic, which I account as poor writing on JMS's part. And there's even a continuity error there: if the Minbari have "jammers" that make it impossible for the EF to lock-on to them, how could they then detect that the gun ports were open?
    3:24 I did like Hague. I was sorry to see him go.
    This video had some nice footage, and despite my criticisms, I liked it very much. Babylon 5 was a big part of my life and I'm glad that it is still alive and well (even if some of the cast are not).

  • @TannithVQ
    @TannithVQ 3 роки тому +4

    The truth is a three edged Garibaldi

    • @Edd25164605
      @Edd25164605 3 роки тому +3

      Your side.
      Their side.
      And the truth!

  • @NickC83
    @NickC83 3 роки тому +1

    Nice to see Babylon 5!

  • @tarnyowl6068
    @tarnyowl6068 3 роки тому +1

    Having never seen Babylon 5 is it worth going back to watch. Also love the video!

    • @Edd25164605
      @Edd25164605 3 роки тому +2

      Yes. The effects are dated but the story is great (especially from season 2 onward)

  • @jervishorton7372
    @jervishorton7372 3 роки тому

    New year's EVE 2021 iam going to watch the Entire series from start to finish.

  • @PulsefiredGaming
    @PulsefiredGaming 3 роки тому

    The Hyperion, pretty sure its actually the Roosevelt class, is by far my favorite starship ever made. Thanks Spacedock

  • @filmandpage1138
    @filmandpage1138 3 роки тому

    I love the B5 ship videos.