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  • Spacedock returns to Babylon 5 for a look at the iconic Omega Class Destroyer.
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  • @Spacedock
    @Spacedock  6 років тому +107

    Apologies if the audio is a bit weird around the start, still getting used to my new microphone. :)

    • @fanjerry8100
      @fanjerry8100 6 років тому +1

      Hi, can you do some ships and battles from a the Legend of Galactic Heroes series too?
      If you haven't watched the series, you can watch a sample here:
      ua-cam.com/video/M1-8rwZvftk/v-deo.html

    • @nefariousgremlin7554
      @nefariousgremlin7554 6 років тому +1

      Finally! I wanted a video on this ship for so long, its one of my favorite " brick in space" designs in any sci fi.

    • @Zarcondeegrissom
      @Zarcondeegrissom 6 років тому

      that's cool, it's not that bad, just a hint of echo (and slightly less bass) is all.

    • @brianclark5498
      @brianclark5498 6 років тому

      Id really like to hear about the Warlock Class destroyer from B5.

    • @jedijc5411
      @jedijc5411 6 років тому +1

      Any chance of doing the Shadow Technology Version of the Omega Class Destroyer?

  • @anotherkenlon
    @anotherkenlon 6 років тому +297

    The most human ship ever. "You won't share your fancy artificial gravity with us? Fine. We'll build a brick. With ludicrous amounts of lasers. Fuck your fancy gravity."

    • @drewdevlin2297
      @drewdevlin2297 6 років тому +22

      absolutely, best youtube comment i've read in ages

    • @michaelthebarbarian3380
      @michaelthebarbarian3380 3 роки тому +40

      "How many guns should we try and mount?"
      "All. All of the guns."

    • @timeforgottenprince8271
      @timeforgottenprince8271 3 роки тому +14

      Nova class dreadnought: Beg pardon?

    • @user-co8uy5rb2s
      @user-co8uy5rb2s 6 місяців тому +2

      We shall spin the center too. Take that older races!!

    • @rpersen
      @rpersen 5 місяців тому +1

      Lol awsome comment, and accurate. Love the Omega class: the brick with ludicrous amounts of lasers.

  • @MrAcenan
    @MrAcenan 6 років тому +157

    - Bring us closer to the enemy.
    - How close?
    - Right down their throats.

    • @deidryt9944
      @deidryt9944 6 років тому +30

      - Where's General Hague?
      - General Hague... is doing Deep Space 9. His agent double-booked him and there was nothing to be done.

    • @nefariousgremlin7554
      @nefariousgremlin7554 6 років тому +2

      That was a badass moment

  • @podemosurss8316
    @podemosurss8316 6 років тому +117

    "We are not some deep-space franchise, this station has a purpose." Susan Ivanova

  • @planetdisco4821
    @planetdisco4821 3 роки тому +33

    It was the ultra realistic earth alliance ships that initially got me hooked on this show. But it wasn’t until about halfway through season 2 when I realised that I was actually watching an epic. Brilliant show that actually really helped me get through a rough time in my life…..

  • @EAS_Hyperion
    @EAS_Hyperion 6 років тому +460

    Babylon 5 is still one of the best Sci-Fi Series of all time...

    • @RichardsScott
      @RichardsScott 6 років тому +4

      You are sooooo right!

    • @arandomcrusader-9355
      @arandomcrusader-9355 6 років тому +3

      Lst Dave
      40k says otherwise

    • @lorenzotaitague5761
      @lorenzotaitague5761 6 років тому +1

      I have to agree with you on that

    • @dreammirrorbrony1240
      @dreammirrorbrony1240 6 років тому +11

      Amazing attention to detail. I have heard that NASA engineers say they looked into the starfury design concept seriously when planning for future projects as it has real world possibilities with existing technology(minus the weaponry).

    • @simonwillis1529
      @simonwillis1529 6 років тому

      Simon says bloody to right

  • @citizenofearth
    @citizenofearth 6 років тому +189

    R.I.P to all Babylon 5 cast that have passed away.
    Richard Biggs, Jef Conaway, Stephen Furst, Andreas Katsulas, Jerry Doyle, Michael O'Hare... :-(
    UPD: And very recently Mira Furlan :-(
    Thank you for all the amazing moments that I had during watching this amazing sci-fi series.

    • @kimnice
      @kimnice 6 років тому +19

      Erm..Peter Jurasik is still alive?

    • @PepRock01
      @PepRock01 6 років тому +24

      Yeah Peter Jurasik is still around and kicking.

    • @PsychedeliKompot
      @PsychedeliKompot 5 років тому +9

      And Tim Choate who played Zathras. (also Peter Jurasik is stil alive and fine)
      Also Ron Thornton who did the CGI.

    • @chrisculpepper5384
      @chrisculpepper5384 5 років тому +1

      Jurasic actually did the audiobook reading for JMS’s recent autobiography, “Becoming Superman” released in the last month or so

    • @vic5015
      @vic5015 5 років тому +14

      For a show that is not really *that* old, the amount of attrition (death) among the cast and crew is astonishingly high.

  • @vladimir.alexandroff
    @vladimir.alexandroff 6 років тому +87

    As Babylon5 is generally forgotten nowadays, every piece of video here is a bliss.
    Also, great job on the video.

    • @Tellos
      @Tellos 4 роки тому +1

      why I treasure my 5 season DVD collection.

  • @SilverHwk7
    @SilverHwk7 3 роки тому +28

    The Omega-class Destroyer to date remains one of my absolute favorite starship designs.

  • @nicholasdickens2801
    @nicholasdickens2801 4 роки тому +8

    There is just something so awesome about the Omega class Destroyer. Like the Nova class Dreadnought. It’s a great design.

    • @hakont.4960
      @hakont.4960 4 роки тому

      They look heavy and robust, like a proper workhorse, that's how us humans like to do things.

  • @JcoreUKhardcore
    @JcoreUKhardcore 6 років тому +88

    This is still my favorite space warship design!

    • @paladinboyd1228
      @paladinboyd1228 6 років тому +5

      JcoreUKhardcore, Mine to, it looks like something we could have in a few years.

    • @planetdisco4821
      @planetdisco4821 3 роки тому +3

      I totally agree! When I first saw it in the TV series it looked exactly like I always imagined a space battleship/carrier to look like. It was the ship designs and the fact that they actually made the effort to have proper zero/g manoeuvring that got me hooked on this show. Props to the Expanse for stepping up and going down the same path…

    • @JcoreUKhardcore
      @JcoreUKhardcore 3 роки тому +3

      @@planetdisco4821 After 3 years from my previous comment: still the best, nothing changed!

    • @tra-viskaiser8737
      @tra-viskaiser8737 2 роки тому +1

      The omega class destroyer and the jupiter class battlestar are my two favorite... and what I think would be reasonable designs for us.. not super beyond our current tech. Aside from the energy weapons.. the kews however we can do.. an omega with just missiles and kews/ciws..

  • @michaellewis1545
    @michaellewis1545 6 років тому +126

    I love Babylon 5 one of the reason is the ships make sense. For example the Omega class destroyer can bring a lot of fire power to a fight but at the cost of being slow. So to compensate they add Fighters. This just goes to show how much thought the creators put into the show.

    • @alexhurlbut
      @alexhurlbut 6 років тому +28

      Omega was supposed to launch her fighters from the rotating sections, their launch ports are at "top" of both sections. But I think it was due to the budget that they simply reused the footage of Omega "vomiting" Furies from the front bay.

    • @Spacedock
      @Spacedock  6 років тому +25

      @Alex Hurlbut Yes that's absolutely correct. Shame cos it would have been awesome to see Cobra Bays on the Omega.

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 6 років тому +23

      I think the Omega was the very first ship I ever saw in any sci-fi that had a rotating habitation section for gravity, B5 in fact being the second Sci-fi I ever saw that had realistic spaceship physics, the very first realistic spaceship physics I ever saw being in the 80's animated series Starcom.

    • @michaellewis1545
      @michaellewis1545 6 років тому +7

      If rewach the show as I am now you can see the budget at but the show is still good. I wish they could remaster the show.

    • @RichardsScott
      @RichardsScott 6 років тому +3

      Battlestar Galactica also had realistic space physics. Another iconic show.

  • @wangbot47
    @wangbot47 6 років тому +122

    I miss Babylon 5

    • @TheVeritas1
      @TheVeritas1 6 років тому +5

      Me too. One of the best and underrated SF series. That's why I constantly promote B5.

  • @avragetrinidadian3787
    @avragetrinidadian3787 6 років тому +53

    FINALLY!!!! The Omega-class gets some love from Spacedock!!!
    great job!

  • @edwinmoy1402
    @edwinmoy1402 6 років тому +24

    B5 is still one of my all-time favs in sci-fi. years ahead of it's time! The Omega and White Star is the coolest ships I've ever seen

    • @peachesrambo4037
      @peachesrambo4037 4 роки тому

      The white stars looked like a plucked chicken.

    • @Zamolxes77
      @Zamolxes77 3 роки тому +1

      Narn heavy cruisers are even cooler, with that huge particle accelerator cannon down the miship. They also have the best paint job ever !
      Oh and Shadow ships, so unique !

    • @mosalah8551
      @mosalah8551 3 роки тому

      Starfury,marlin minbari destroyer and omega class is my favorite design in B5

  • @jervishorton7372
    @jervishorton7372 6 років тому +65

    36 STAR FURIES now thats killer Bees protecting the hive.

    • @roguelead72
      @roguelead72 6 років тому +2

      A Star Destroyer carries 72 TIEs, and SSD 144.

    • @chriss2031
      @chriss2031 6 років тому +3

      Well, the Nimitz is built with the idea to be a full Carrier. The Omega class. A bit less so. The turrets and their support equipment need space as well inside the hull, and thats not little space.

    • @Raguleader
      @Raguleader 6 років тому +2

      For the setting, where there aren't really any dedicated carriers, 36 is quite a few fighters. The Omega, like most other ships in its weight range, on B5, is a battleship first and a carrier second. Probably a necessity of design in a setting where ships can pop out of hyperspace a few hundred meters away from you.

    • @Raguleader
      @Raguleader 6 років тому +1

      Not sure where you're getting that size comparison from. The Galaxy-class Enterprise is about a third the length of an Omega. The original Constitution class Enterprise clocks in at around a sixth of the length, going off official numbers. Of course, B5 and Star Trek both had some profound scaling inconsistencies.

    • @TK-nn8jd
      @TK-nn8jd 6 років тому

      Supposedly, the Executor can carry several thousand TIEs at full load, but only had 144 at Endor. Though I have no idea if that's based on canon or just fan speculation.

  • @Skringly
    @Skringly 6 років тому +27

    Is that Supreme Commander music I hear!? Extra awesomeness to you sir.

    • @SixshotRevan
      @SixshotRevan 6 років тому +1

      I noticed that too. Great stuff.

  • @aaronlee5073
    @aaronlee5073 4 роки тому +8

    Based on the Leonov from 2010: The Year We Made Contact

  • @noambar8058
    @noambar8058 5 років тому +2

    This is probably one of my all time favorite warship designs ever
    It's so cool to see a warship with a centrifugal hab. It's the only warship I know that uses it.

  • @Galvars
    @Galvars 6 років тому +8

    Two forward "tubes" on lower sector of bow originally were design as "plasma mortars" possibly for planetary bombardment but it was scratch from script when show hit the TV. But they are still there as model of Omega was build with them.

    • @stephenjdutton
      @stephenjdutton 6 років тому +3

      In addition to the launchers on the front of the ship, I heard that the red circle visible along either side of the hull in front of the rotating section were supposed to be missile doors. Something else that got dropped. I think this was because of a change in the effects team. The people who came up with all of this had been replaced by the time we really got to see the Omega-class in action.

    • @EinhanderSn0m4n
      @EinhanderSn0m4n 6 років тому +3

      Babylon 5 itself was fitted with a few of these in the GROPOS episode, much to the chagrin of the Centauri Primus that engaged both B5 and the Narn warship they were harboring.

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 6 років тому +1

      The chin tubes were supposed to be the launchers for a pair of 'energy mines' like the sort fired by the Narn fleet at Gorash. Essentially they're nuclear bombs hurled by a railgun.
      Another dropped feature of the Omega design were the Starfury hangars at the edges of the rotating habitat module. They were meant to be flung out under the centrifugal force like how B5's own fighters are dropped out of the Cobra bays.

  • @jgt2598
    @jgt2598 6 років тому +4

    Man, we need more sci-fi like THIS. I just love the combination of fully Newtonian physics, centrifugal gravity, and FTL. Just because you have a warp drive doesn't mean that F stops equaling m*a.

  • @jonathanhirst6997
    @jonathanhirst6997 6 років тому +48

    The a(S)cension of the ordinary man
    The as(C)ension of the ordinary man
    The ascension (O)f the ordinary man
    The ascension of the o(R)dinary man
    The as(C)ension of the ordinary man
    The ascension of t(H)e ordinary man
    The ascension of th(E) ordinary man
    The ascension of the or(D)inary man
    Th(E) ascension of the ordinary man
    The (A)scension of the ordinary man
    The ascension of the o(R)dinary man
    The ascension of (T)he ordinary man
    The ascension of t(H)e ordinary man

    • @Jinx1349
      @Jinx1349 3 роки тому +5

      Nice one there MR Clarke.

  • @RenBR
    @RenBR 6 років тому +66

    Amazing video!!! Keep up the good work!!!
    I love Babylon 5 ships...Please do a video about the Warlock Advanced Destroyer!!!

  • @Rubashow
    @Rubashow 4 роки тому +2

    When I watched Babylon 5 as a kid I had no idea about the physics those ships would operate under. Still this thing always felt like an actual spaceship should look like. It looks rugged and intimiating and is still my favourite design in Babylon 5

  • @HellsRaven4444
    @HellsRaven4444 6 років тому +11

    Here's a bit of information that may or may not be canon as they came more from the defunct Tabletop game. It also may have appeared in the novels as well and there's no official wiki page that has it. Earth Alliance ships also had a defense system known as the E-web along with their Interceptor arrays. The E-web essentially acts like polarised armour from Star Trek. Numerous emitters are fitted across the hull of the ship in grid like patterns, each one creating a small but powerful magnetic bubble that helps defend against plasma and charged particle beams. This greatly enhances the resistance of Earth Alliance ships against standard energy weapons. It was useless against the Minbari however as they used Neutron particles in their weapons, unaffected by the magnetic fields.

    • @PepRock01
      @PepRock01 6 років тому +1

      HellsRaven4444 loved B5 wars

    • @HellsRaven4444
      @HellsRaven4444 6 років тому +4

      The magnetic bubbles are not that big, while the hulls are quite thick in comparison being multi-layered and composed a whole slew of materials and composite alloys and such. Here's a page about the armours of Earth Alliance ships before and during the Minbari war.
      efni.org/armor.htm

    • @sporkboy082
      @sporkboy082 6 років тому +3

      HellsRaven4444 That is correct. The Earth Alliance warships exclusively used the E-Web defense system as a way to nullify energy based attacks while rely on a very sturdy and heavily layered armor playing all over the hull.
      This double layered passive defense system gave the EA Navy an edge on durability during the Dilgar War. However, this wasn't enough during the Minbari-Earth War. The Nova Class was the only ship durable enough to take two hits from the neutron beam cannons of the Sharlins while armed enough to damage the Sharlins and Tinashi frigates.
      The Omega Class, a derivative of the Nova, was made after that war to counter the Sharlins with an improved E-Web, a stronger hull and armor plating that's applied with a special coating to resist neutron beams. At that point the Minbari stealth system could have been broken or at least partially broken thanks to newer sensors installed on those ships.
      I like to think the Warlock Class is the ultimate expression of EA's naval power. It should have far superior E-Web tech plus far superior armor and hull design compared to either the Omega and Nova classes. From what I've read in various sources, especially efni.org, the Warlock Class is a Sharlin-killer.

    • @dukoth6552
      @dukoth6552 6 років тому

      um, no they weren't, the omega's red lasers weren't even the same strength as mimbari green beams, and shadow purple beams are more powerful than even that

    • @stormcrow28
      @stormcrow28 5 років тому

      In B5Wars, Earth and Narn heavy lasers hit slightly harder then Minbari neutron lasers, but the Minbari neutron lasers had better fire control, range, rate of fire, and could also fire in piercing mode, where the beam went through the ship, rather then raking the hull. Given its superiority in ECM and sensor capability, the Sharlin usually cuts apart an Omega before it can get in range, though two Omegas can come close to matching a Sharlin one on one if they have Thunderbolts to fight off Minbari Nial heavy fighters.

  • @positronicfeed
    @positronicfeed 6 років тому +12

    Do one on the Babylon 5 Earth Alliance Warlock class. We saw it just the one little time and it's beauty in functionality.

    • @ScreamingTc
      @ScreamingTc 6 років тому +4

      The Warlock doesn't get enough love. It's still my favourite design out of any sci-fi setting, managing to mix the look of being a bruiser without loosing it's utilitarian sleekness.

  • @mikewhitaker2880
    @mikewhitaker2880 3 роки тому +1

    love the vid on this ship... just wish it had some visual on the rotating section in motion....

  • @Stukov961
    @Stukov961 6 років тому +7

    Awwe yeah, been waiting for this since I first discovered this channel! Also, the SupCom music fits surprisingly well.

  • @samtime2711
    @samtime2711 6 років тому +1

    Thank you, glad to see some of ships from babylon 5 getting showing on the channel

  • @Anciets
    @Anciets 6 років тому +1

    Great Video, and glad to see you adding more B5 classes to your venerable line up of sci fi ships. Just wanted to point out that the Omega may have had additional firepower that was never actually seen in visual footage. Not sure if you were only including weapons seen on screen.
    "The turrets on each forward cheek were just there to get your attention, they were the 'light' weapons. :) . . . . . . the dual Big A** Cannons under the ships return bay that were supposed to launch gigaton class mines - yes those things were there for a reason." - Paul Bryant, Source: B5Scrolls (2008)

  • @xshullaw
    @xshullaw 3 роки тому +2

    "Battlezone II music"
    You can't fool me, I know Supreme Commander when I hear it.

  • @baalzhamon8491
    @baalzhamon8491 3 роки тому +2

    This ship is a bit bigger than a Star Destroyer (100m give or take), got forward mounted weapons that just screams at you to get lost or get f'ed up. What's not to love about this ship with such a menacing appereance
    edit : and yes, I do like this much more than the warlock class. Dunno why, but I do

  • @invidofinp1828
    @invidofinp1828 6 років тому +8

    This made me happy to see but sad that I remembered a good number of actors are dead now.

  • @DrownedInExile
    @DrownedInExile 6 років тому +23

    I see the Omega uses a "DX-419" tracking system, an upgrade from the old XP-7 units used during the Minbari War. I wonder if Omegas would be able to track Minbari warships? Earthforce doesn't seem eager to find out...

    • @GuiltyFaT
      @GuiltyFaT 6 років тому +1

      DrownedInExile
      Check out the warlock class destroyer, it was designed after the Earth Alliance Civil War and it went up against and then minbari Cruiser and destroyed it

    • @jenswurm
      @jenswurm 6 років тому +3

      AFAIK the Omega was specifically developed to counter Sharlins, so i'd expect them to be able to track them. At least it said so in the rulebook of the tabletop game.

    • @shadowqueen1701
      @shadowqueen1701 6 років тому +1

      NightRaven 1901 also season 2 episode 1.

    • @robertmartinu8803
      @robertmartinu8803 6 років тому +3

      At least the Whitestars in "No surrender, no retreat" expected to be shot at with a certain degree of accuracy despite their ECM.

    • @HellsRaven4444
      @HellsRaven4444 6 років тому +3

      Earthforce eventually managed to develop tracking systems that can break through Minbari stealth. However they developed it years after the war, not during. Like Londo Mollari said "They ran out of time". They did have a prototype of the Omega class near the end of the war that was brought into service. They basically just rammed that ship into a Minbari warship.

  • @davidgriffin7821
    @davidgriffin7821 6 років тому +2

    I love Babylon 5 and I like your videos with the other sci fi universes. In the words of Lando "Whatever it your doing keep it up".

  • @WakeRoberts
    @WakeRoberts 6 років тому +1

    I've been waiting for this one! Thank you for covering the Omega. Definitely one of my top 3 starships of ANY sci-fi franchise.

  • @hawkstringfellow
    @hawkstringfellow 6 років тому +5

    Spacedock keep up the good work I like that it's all about the ship's on your site no opinions just the facts about the ship's great work

  • @BasementBerean
    @BasementBerean 3 роки тому +1

    3:15 This graphic was my computer wallpaper for several years.

  • @Taraakian
    @Taraakian 6 років тому +1

    Always one of my favorite designs from B5. It's a beefy war machine; very kinetic. The design, with cannons lining the entire body, always reminded me of old ironsides vessels with rows of cannons on each side.

  • @I_Cant_win_engagements_D2
    @I_Cant_win_engagements_D2 6 років тому

    Thank you Daniel!

  • @Raguleader
    @Raguleader 6 років тому

    If you ever read the behind-the-scenes stuff on a lot of B5's ship designs, the modelers had all sorts of design ideas that never got used on the show for various reasons. The Omega, in particular, has what are supposed to be launch bays at the outer edges of the rotating sections, the idea being that the Omega would launch fighters the same way B5 does. They also had a broadside battery of missiles which never got seen on the show.
    I imagine they nixed those ideas either for SFX budget reasons or because they couldn't figure out where everything was supposed to fit inside.
    One nitpick on the Starfury commentary, the rebels also had at least some Thunderbolts. For one thing, the Churchill had a squadron of them which ended up being based off of Babylon 5. Not sure how many others were depicted as fighting on the rebel side.

  • @henwald7898
    @henwald7898 6 років тому

    Wanted this for a while.

  • @Stukov961
    @Stukov961 6 років тому +3

    God, I love the Omega Destroyer. My absolute favourite sci-fi ship.

  • @armorking7258
    @armorking7258 6 років тому

    Supreme Command music on the background, that brings me good memories.

  • @TigerRoze
    @TigerRoze 6 років тому

    You forgot to talk about the two massive plasma mortars on the bow, also the 72 missile tubes mounted port/starboard

  • @FreeThePorgs
    @FreeThePorgs 6 місяців тому

    They 6-8 red dots on the port/starboard of the ships were supposed to be space mines, but never seen and used on screen due to budget constraints. This was BTS from B5.

  • @shinjitama1972
    @shinjitama1972 6 років тому

    One note, you actually have the artwork that shows the true foreward batteries that were never showed in the show firing(two large launchers below the starfury landing bays) also of which originally was designed to launch the starfuries from the rotational arms, but was never shown in the show
    "The design of the ship itself included a number of features that were never seen utilised in the show. Perhaps the most obvious were the two very large forward cannons mounted under the forward docking bay which were intended to launch "gigaton class mines" and in fact appear very similar, if not identical, to the energy mine launchers seen on the Narn Cruiser in ("The Long, Twilight Struggle"). There were also rows of Starfury launch bay hatches located along the sections of the rotating centrifuge. The idea was that the fighters would launch using the same principles of centrifugal force as Babylon 5's Cobra Bays. Finally, all along the sides of the ship's hull were rows of little round hatches that were intended to be missile silos, meant to evoke the look of the broadside cannons from a 19th Century sailing vessel. The engine section was originally a more complex, counter-intuitive affair designed to compensate for the rotating centrifugal section; however in the name of simplicity and expediency, the concept was pared down to just four large rear facing engines.[25]" as pulled from the original wikia page

  • @JAP917
    @JAP917 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for covering some Babylon 5. I think a good 1v1 matchup might be an Omega versus the re-envisioned BSG series Galactica. Both had no shields. Both had fighters. And both had formidable commanders. Or Warlock versus Pegasus (Ivanova vs. Cain?)

  • @token112
    @token112 5 місяців тому

    Interesting fact @spacedock might be able to verify is the original intent was to have star furies launch out of the ends of the rotating center mass much like they launch out of Babylon 5 and recover via the front bay but due to CGI costs they just stuck to both launch and recovery via the front bay (I can't recall were I got this info but I believe it was in a doco on the CGI/Animation team and about the hardware they used). They were also to have a huge array of missile batteries on the sides, but again, CGI costs.
    I would like to imagine the inner sections of the rotating section is living spaces and deeper in and more armored the bridge and CNC, and the outer sections having more centrifugal force/gravity are the launch bays to fling the star furies out, maybe have training decks for the embarked Marines to train in heavier perceived gravity etc.

  • @andrewboyer7544
    @andrewboyer7544 6 років тому +1

    You comment that they have limited maneuvering... These things showed they could pull a 180 degree turn in 2 seconds from full stop. Things things are actually very agile.

  • @TheDarkIllumination
    @TheDarkIllumination 6 років тому +1

    Your channels fantastic. Babylon 5 is my favorite science fiction show. Please do more b5 ships, like:
    -Warlock Class Destroyer
    -Minbari Sharlin
    -White Star
    -Vorlon Dreadnought
    -Technomage Pinnance

  • @reccesam7799
    @reccesam7799 Рік тому

    It would be really cool to see a short video review of the Omega Command Ship variant.

  • @comchia4306
    @comchia4306 2 роки тому

    Returning here with the recent Babylon 5 reboot announcement. I hope it gives incentive for a model of this ship. I adore it.

  • @Emperorvalse
    @Emperorvalse 6 років тому

    Thank you for the impressive video on one of my favourite SF series.

  • @mattwho81
    @mattwho81 Рік тому

    I wonder if the Omega was in fact a stopgap design, a placeholder in effect. After the Dilgar war Earth gained access to lots of advanced tech. Efforts to understand this technology would eventually lead to the awe inspiring Warlock design, but lessons learned during the war could be immediately implemented in upgrading the Nova. Two factors propelled the Omega from an experimental design to a frontline unit. First the Warlock proved far more complex than anyone expected, pushing it back decades. Second the Minbari war left Earth reeling and in desperate need of an upgraded capital ship to recover their losses.

  • @kaiserbaronradec4103
    @kaiserbaronradec4103 6 років тому +4

    Really would like to see;
    Star trek - Excelsior & refit
    Star Wars - Harrower class dreadnaught
    maybe even from Red faction guerrilla - Hydra?

  • @CaptRedJack
    @CaptRedJack 6 років тому +1

    been waiting for this one

  • @PassiveSmoking
    @PassiveSmoking 3 роки тому

    Rocketdyne was an actual company. They developed the engines for the Saturn V and the Shuttle. Now they're part of Rockwell.

  • @michaelthebarbarian3380
    @michaelthebarbarian3380 3 роки тому

    My favorite Capital ship in all Sci Fi. It looks like something we would build lol

  • @Lepusrabbit
    @Lepusrabbit 6 років тому +2

    Thank you thank you thank you , this is the one I’ve been waiting for! Babylon 5

  • @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
    @JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 6 років тому +1

    This ship... THIS SHIP!! Just AMAZING

  • @joelker41
    @joelker41 6 років тому +1

    Awesome thanks man! More B5!!!

  • @uss_04
    @uss_04 6 років тому

    Been waiting for the Omega Class destroyer for a while. Always wanted to know more about them, ever since I saw their roll on the attack on Babylon 5's independence. Such a unique design.

  • @Phil-D83
    @Phil-D83 6 років тому

    The Omega-x with shadow tech and fusion beam weapons were awesome.

  • @keonisan
    @keonisan 6 років тому +1

    The Agamemnon used a firing tactic during the battle of earth that wasn't seen in any other engagement. Alternating rapid fire with the pulse and burst cannons on the bow of the ship. I thought this was an impressive showing from the Omega and wondered why other captains didn't use this method more often.

    • @BogeyTheBear
      @BogeyTheBear 6 років тому

      Relatively simple firing solutions come into play: the defense platforms weren't maneuvering, so the Aggie could point her bow dead-on so the pulse cannons lined up straight with the particle beams and they could all be brought to bear on target.

  • @hawkstringfellow
    @hawkstringfellow 6 років тому +11

    Love B5

    • @williamnorton9547
      @williamnorton9547 6 років тому

      Howard King
      One thing that Babylon 5 reflects is that humanity continues to make the same mistakes and brought it excess baggage with it to the stars.

  • @Gadgets2059
    @Gadgets2059 6 років тому +7

    I love this ship.

  • @jakep.9426
    @jakep.9426 6 років тому

    Dude, nice vid, also you need to do:
    BSG (1978)
    BSG (2004)
    Battlestar Pegasus
    Viper Mk. 7
    Viper Mk. 1
    Classic and RDM Basestars

  • @RayisX
    @RayisX 6 років тому

    Great vid as always but I still think you should have used the quote about shooting forward and back

  • @SolarWindsRider
    @SolarWindsRider 6 років тому

    Interesting fact about ship's weapons - red rings that you can see at both sides of the ship in front of the rotating section were supposed to be missile shaft hatches. The idea was to have a visually spectacular sequences of hatches opening one after another and launching missiles one by one (probably similar to sequence when earth defense grid fired on Sheridan's fleet). But the concept was dropped due to lack of computing power to animate it. Still the hatches were left in the CGI model.

  • @PabloLomez
    @PabloLomez 6 років тому +1

    I love Babylon 5 ship design so much. Definitely one of my favourite capital ships

  • @NickProductions20
    @NickProductions20 6 років тому +1

    People love the Whitestar and i do too, however I've always loved the Omega class the most.

  • @lovipoekimo176
    @lovipoekimo176 6 років тому

    This summary is awesome. Makes me want to watch "Severed Dreams" again.

  • @uriensthe_gray1220
    @uriensthe_gray1220 6 років тому

    Cool, background music from Supreme Commander. Well choosen, i must say.

  • @braderickson9996
    @braderickson9996 6 років тому

    The excellence just keeps coming!

  • @QUADEeee
    @QUADEeee 6 років тому +2

    0:36 The physics are Fully Newtonian.
    Buy me one.

  • @UnlimitedFlyers
    @UnlimitedFlyers 5 років тому +1

    It is sad that the 3D technology of the time of the show could not fully realize Omega's potential: those big humps up front were supposed to be beam emitters, and several parts of the ship were allegedly missile launch tubes that ultimately went unused.
    One can only imagine if Stracynzsky wanted to reopen Pandora's Box today, what goodies would we be treated to...

    • @hakont.4960
      @hakont.4960 4 роки тому

      And still it looks good because of the good designs. The characters are also so interesting that you pretty much overlook the lacking effects and set quality. Heck, even my grandmother liked this series. I don't think she understood all of the spaceships and stuff, but she liked the characters, I think G'kar was her favorite.

  • @mephistoxarses8585
    @mephistoxarses8585 4 роки тому

    It's nearly the end of 2019....and i really need to watch Babylon 5 again!

  • @badbeardbill9956
    @badbeardbill9956 6 років тому +1

    They took the rotating section straight from 2010, the sequel 2001: A Space Odyssey. No one seemed to notice, so they kept it in.
    Still, a great adaption of a piece from another franchise.

    • @grayscribe1342
      @grayscribe1342 5 років тому

      Look at the episode in the 3. season of B5 when they stop the Shadow ship discovered on mars.
      The Agamemnon over jupiter is nearly the exact shot as the Leonov over Jupiter in '2010'.
      Just with naming a Psi cop Alfred Bester after, the writer the came up with the idea of a telepathic cop, Straszinski never minded telling us the source of some of his ideas. If you can spot it.

  • @GuiltyFaT
    @GuiltyFaT 6 років тому +1

    I always loved the design of the Babylon 5 earthforce ships

  • @margareteadie8941
    @margareteadie8941 Місяць тому

    The omega is a design from the movie 2010, starring Roy sneider,and Helen mirron,

  • @dukoth6552
    @dukoth6552 6 років тому +1

    even though the thunderbolt had superior tech in it, the fact that auroras were still being used some 50 odd years after the craft's introduction (in earth's defense fleet no less) suggests the aurora was still a superior space fighter by merit of it's base design

  • @TomLuTon
    @TomLuTon 6 років тому +2

    The design of the Omega Class was heavily influenced by the USSR spaceship Alexei Leonov from the movie 2010.

  • @vandabo
    @vandabo 6 років тому

    This thing looks like someone took the design of the Leonov from 2010 and supersized it and slapped a bunch of guns on it. I always enjoy starship designs that take advantage of the fact that they don't have to be aerodynamic. Good stuff!

    • @cubdukat
      @cubdukat 2 роки тому

      The animators saw it a shout-out to "2010." Supposedly one of them really liked the design. And MGM was really cool about not going after them, although I suspect that around the time the Omega-class showed up on B5, they really weren't in a position to even pay their light bill, let alone sue animators. But yeah, that is one beautiful ship. The late Syd Mead sure did have a way with designing starships...

  • @hawkstringfellow
    @hawkstringfellow 6 років тому +16

    Do the whitestar my fav sci fi ship

    • @Daehawk
      @Daehawk 6 років тому

      The plucked chicken is ok but I gotta go with the Warlock all the time.

    • @hawkstringfellow
      @hawkstringfellow 6 років тому

      Daehawk warlock???

    • @Daehawk
      @Daehawk 6 років тому +1

      Ya. Bigger, more weapons...has missile pods plus 2 beams of the GOD platforms, plus fighters. Slow ya but its beautiful.

  • @baalzhamon8491
    @baalzhamon8491 5 років тому

    probably one of the most intimidating capital ship designs to date, even more than the warlock class. This is due, in my mind, to the realistic design of it. And it is even a bit bigger than a star destroyer lol

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 4 роки тому

      This is the kind of ship we can make in real life for space travel

  • @WasNotWas999
    @WasNotWas999 6 років тому +1

    All those years ago and still looks as good as the newer sci-fi ships

  • @brokeneyes6615
    @brokeneyes6615 6 років тому +5

    Could you do freespace 1&2 ships?, TheCcolossus and Lucifer class in particular

  • @evanboll4651
    @evanboll4651 2 роки тому

    This ship is the definition of the following speech: "For too many years, Humanity was on the back foot. Reacting to threats, rather then preventing them. Rest of the galaxy was bigger then us, stronger then us. We were mice hiding in the shadows, hoping that the giants wouldn't see us. No more. Humanity is no longer on the defense. We are the giants now." -Captain Thomas Laskey, UNSC Infinity

  • @PinkHusky433
    @PinkHusky433 6 років тому +1

    Good one, but you may have talked about the Pollux prior tho the Agamemnon, which is another well known B5 Omega....

  • @tridentstudios4824
    @tridentstudios4824 6 років тому +7

    More babylon 5 please!!! Also exellent video!

  • @saliston
    @saliston 4 роки тому

    I love how they call these giant ships Destroyers. Destroyers are tiny lightly armed ships. These things are Battleships/Carriers

  • @davidcolby167
    @davidcolby167 6 років тому +1

    YESSSSSSS THE OMEGA! My legitimate FAVORITE SHIP EVER.
    It might be outgunned and out armored and out teched by 50% of the B5 universe, but holy shit it is one fucking rad ship.

  • @sarahmacormac1481
    @sarahmacormac1481 6 років тому

    honestly it would be cool if you covered the aggressor class star destroyer of the zann consortium

  • @PaxDeorum
    @PaxDeorum 6 років тому

    Amazing video!!! Keep up the good work!!!

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin 6 років тому

    Given Spacedock's love of Corvette type ships, I'm genuinely surprised he hasn't covered the Whitestars yet

  • @artembentsionov
    @artembentsionov 6 років тому

    Four prototype Omegas (sometimes called Nova-X) participated during the Minbari War. One managed to ram a Sharlin war cruiser. An Omega was basically a Nova with a central centrifuge and Hyperion-based weapons (less powerful than Nova’s plasma cannons but longer-ranged).

    • @mahatmarandy5977
      @mahatmarandy5977 Рік тому

      ….which was actually a mistake by the FVX production team. They’d forgotten that the Omegas didn’t exist during that period

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov Рік тому

      @@mahatmarandy5977 maybe, but many have spun that into prototypes that didn’t have time to reach serialized production status by the time the war started

    • @mahatmarandy5977
      @mahatmarandy5977 Рік тому

      @@artembentsionov yeah. That is a retcon. Basically the moment the movie came out people started, saying, “hey, what the hell? Why is this here?” The nova-X concept was a Retcon to cover up that mistake. And I mean it works. If you look at the scenes, it is clear that it is a fully fledged, modern Omega class, destroyer, not some clunky prototype, but as explaining a way, mistakes goes, it’s pretty good. And it is now officially canon.
      Canon also states that the nova X project started in a panic during the course of the war, when the earth alliance realized that their current spacecraft were simply nowhere near good enough. They were a crash project done In a hurry, and not something that had even been considered before the war.

    • @artembentsionov
      @artembentsionov Рік тому

      @@mahatmarandy5977 I thought it happened just before the war. The Battle of Vega was the first real battle not counting the disastrous first contact, and that’s where the prototypes were being tested

    • @mahatmarandy5977
      @mahatmarandy5977 Рік тому

      @@artembentsionov If you say so. I've always heard that once they started getting the crap kicked out of them, they hurriedly rushed a hardier warship into production, but it wasn't available until after the war ended.
      That kind of thing happened quite a bit in WW2. "Shit! The thing we pinned all our hopes on sucks!"
      "Well, ok, pick the things about it that don't suck and use that, along with the other lessons we've learned, to develop the next generation of vehicle."
      But if that's not what they say happened now, that's fine. It doesn't make a ton of sense, but who am I to question the received wisdom of the ages?

  • @TheSleepyCraftsman
    @TheSleepyCraftsman 3 роки тому

    So it's built by Lockheed Martin essentially. Rocketdyne merged with Aerojet in 2013, which is being acquired by LM right now.

  • @hanswarjone8704
    @hanswarjone8704 5 років тому +2

    Could you report on the ships from the movies "2001" and "2010, the year we made contact"?

  • @martinjaros3191
    @martinjaros3191 6 років тому

    Supreme Commander music... Hmm... I do approve of this.