Advanced Hunter Movement Tips in Destiny 2 (ft. Physics)
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Movement is often described as the "True" skill gap of Destiny PvP. We can debate if this is true or not, but regardless any good player will tell you that mastering movement skills in Destiny is critical to becoming a solid player. Mastering the basic and advanced movement techniques discussed in this video will help you level up your playing ability dramatically.
In this video, I interviewed my friend illPhysics and we talked about how to improve your movement abilities in Destiny 2. If you focus on improving these techniques such as sliding, jumping, quickdraw glitching, rotating with a team and more, you'll become a scary player to face in the crucible. Please be sure to check out his accounts linked below and say hi on his next stream!
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0:00 Meet illPhysics
0:52 Why top players love Destiny movement
4:57 How hunters move around the map so fast
7:03 Controlling the gap between you and your opponent
12:00 Sliding into lanes in PvP
13:30 The benefits of sliding
16:05 QuickDraw glitch in PvP to swap faster
18:53 Combining movement with good teamplay
19:50 How to win more 1vX situations
21:55 When to play your life or die quickly
23:24 The fastest way to improve at PvP
27:05 The hidden meta behind high level PvP
29:27 Why you need to try out private match scrims
33:05 How to get involved in scrims
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Huge thanks to illPhysics for joining me on this episode! Please check out his channels (links in description!)
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I liked that guy a lot. Thanks for exposing us to him! Would def enjoy a part 2 to this one
So you talk about sweats being the best place to get good in pvp because most of the sandbox is distilled down to teamwork, movement and primary gunplay and you talk about the elimination of stasis. But being a hunter first I think thats colored your perspective a bit because on hunter with the excwption of shatterdive the movement is very consistent for all hunter classes. As a titan main its hard to hear "go play scrims" as the solution to ironing out my gameplay, especially movement when behemoth is really the only class with very good mobility tools for titans. Bottom Striker is still very good but requires a very risky (in high skill play) apeing style of play to get really anything out of the toolkit. And Bottom tree hammers again is very good but is basically an ability spam class. I can definitely see limiting stuff like Howl, Coldsnaps, Hedrons, Chains, etc but as I titan I don't see how playing a light subclass and handicapping my movement is supposed to be the best thing for me. Behemoth has a lower skill floor no doubt but it also has a higher skill ceiling than other titan subclasses because the slide and melee unlock a lot of the escape vectors and bait potential thats available to hunters and top tree dawn.
Do you have any thoughs about the concerns I've voiced? Any reason why my concerns might be misguided or if not do you have a recommendation to mitigate what Im talking about?
@@craigcrissman4651 just my humble perspective as a warlock main here: When I was dedicated to working on my movement, gunplay, and map awareness, I switched to top tree storm caller because it has such a limited tool kit, I couldn't rely on my abilities to do the work for me. It was basically handicapping myself so when I jumped on top tree dawn, it was just a matter of mastering the mechanics of the class instead of my overall gameplay.
It can be pretty useful to divide your focus and work on less things at a time. I've never been fortunate enough to be able to play scrims, but I would assume it's most important to focus on playing your life, which requires deft movement and great map awareness along with team shooting when opportunities are available. It seems logical this would really increase your ability to perform quickly under pressure and eventually lead to better overall gameplay. The more handicapped you are (within reason) the higher your skill can develop and the more tools will make a difference as you add them in later. I'm curious if my perspective helps or if it's just rambling.
@@ShutchyerLips I agree that isolating certain skills is very helpful to improve, but something as fundamental as movement is something you should be trying to keep consistent across your gameplay because its fundamental to your muscle memory, positioning and timing. Nobody tells hunters trying to get good to master movement without stompees and then put on Stompees to add NOS to their gameplay because thats not how that works. If you intend to use stompees you just use stompees.
For instance one of the most basic moves for higher level players in priming a guy rushing in with shotgun with your primary and then as he goes to slide in for the shotgun you slide backwards and shotgun him with your extended ohko range while staying out of his. The optimal timing for this is fundamentally different on light subclasses than on behemoth. So by playing sweats on say sunbreaker you're not learning the timing for how to do the technique optimally in your ordinary gameplay. Youre learning a different skill you'll have to relearn for behemoth.
@@craigcrissman4651 you're not wrong about having to learn a new tool when switching subclasses. What I'm advocating and what you're advocating are different approaches to the same end goal of gittin gud. I don't think either is wrong, and they may even take the same amount of time. They're just different.
So, regarding your concerns for improving by playing a different subclass, it's pretty normal to practice on the high skill ceiling subclass you want to play, but your gains will ultimately be slower for each subset of skills you're trying to master because you're tackling all of them at once just by the very nature of having to use them all at the same time.
I think the approach they're going for is slicing the pie of your own skills. If you already got gud game, then you're really only focusing on learning the toolset of the new subclass, but if you need to learn any general skill, you will probably see faster gains by using a subclass that forces you to focus on that skill.
Physics has such a nice voice and it’s great to listen to him talk about how much he loves destiny pvp. Such a positive presence in the community!
No, you
Wait, I thought the title was a meme, there's someone actually named Physics
No, his gamername is "i love apes, nothing else".
Mmm, monke
Yes!
"Oh finally, a movement video from patty. Maybe this will teach me how to deal with the overwhelming population of hunters."
"...oh"
Yeah exactly. It taught you how to be a hunter!
Right. Titans aside from stasis ones still get movement shafted. Hunters are still the most synergistic class in the game.
@@Ivory113 too many blueberry crayons this morning
@@claytonvolner5950 in terms of overall synergy between different abilities on a single skill tree I'd actually argue most titan and warlock trees are much more synergistic than hunter. Not to mention, with top tree dawn floating or citans rampart lane holding, warlock and titan have much more synergy with sniping while also being very capable of aping with top dawn skates and amped up titan slides via dunes, antaeus, or stasis slide, meanwhile hunters have that lesser but still present synergy for sniping in trees like mid void
@@torunsmok5890 Which Titan tree has as much synergy as a hunter tree? I’d like to know
Petition for patty to start a podcast where he sits down with other content creators or his friends in the destiny community and they talk about 1 topic for an hour or so. Ex: Hunter movement
I have definitely considered something like that
D1 TITAN main because of Twilight Garrison, that feeling of skating full speed, turning sideways to fusion a fool at max range and zooming away... muah chef kiss
Guess you gotta play top tree dawn now huh
This is actualy realy well made and i just got into pvp so this will be very usefull
Seriously, check out his older videos. So much wealth of info!
oop pp
I'd love for yall to talk about best practices for improving together as a team and the technical aspects of moving on each class (maybe the quickdraw glitch as well)!
Definitely make a part 2. Love the tips that you and your guests give for PvP. I just got back into Destiny again after not playing it for a few years and these videos are extremely helpful. 👍
Great video, love these longer breakdowns of deeper D2 concepts. Hope the Pt. 2 comes through.
This was definitely my favorite duo videos. I mostly play quickplay and comp, and the strategic aspect of destiny is something that's not at all talked about for different game modes, and I think that really defines good movement from an intent perspective. Look forward to the followup video from u two.
I wish trials and scrims were more accessible to players because that's a part of destiny that is very appreciable.
You cannot understand my jealousy at his Spare Rations ornament
Dude same! The one that got away 😭
pain
I don't even have a spare so I'm even more jealous
Bruh I have a bud who has the night watch and gnawing hunger ornaments and doesn't even use the weapons, meanwhile they're my fav weapons of their weapon type in slot hands down and it hurts dude, the jealousy is real
I would love if you made advanced top tier movement videos for each class!
I want to do this eventually! My Hunter one has held up pretty well if you haven’t seen it yet
@@PattycakesGaming I have, but stasis brings some new movement abilities for us to take advantage of.
Me too, waiting for video of advanced movement lol
Physics is outstanding at teaching and helping you improve. Had the chance to paly IB with him in the same fireteam and I learned so much by sticking by him and got in on his community customs as well and each time made me better.
This is so good content!
And scrims are absolutely the conduit to improve!
Incredible. I absolutely love Tony, and now we just need a trifecta of him, Pattycakes and Ascendant to make the Ultimate Get Better Guide.
A couple of days ago I decided to play as a hunter and the first thing I did was search on UA-cam on how to perfect playing the Hunter. As I came across your video and listen to what you guys had to say I not only learn so much about playing the hunter, but I also learned a lot about just being a player in the PVP setting altogether. Please keep up the great work you guys rock! I can't wait to see what you guys have to say in part 2.
You should do these as a podcast, I love the discussion format
the hold jump tip just blew my mind
Awesome video! Always love the content man!
Thanks for taking the time to put together this very pro look at movement. Love these vids keep em coming. Still watching MaxViper 😎👍
IllPhysics, one of my favorite Destiny twitch streamers
you always make great tutorials, thanks patty!
This is some great content! Keep it up! Movement is so important
Damn man, it’s such a shame that he quit the game. 😕 recently started playing scrims (with my son and his sweaty friends) and this video is one of the best things I’ve seen advocating for them and other ways to improve in PvP.
Really enjoyed the content, keep it up! :)
Best d2 video I’ve ever seen making pvp mainstream
Thx patty this is the best destiny 2 pvp master class ever🔥
I would definitely appreciate a part 2 about titans and Warlocks if there are any advanced techs on that front.
Id watch a part 2. Rn if there was one lol
I thought the title was a joke not an actual person since movement involves physics XD.
Wow, Patty. Really amazing video. Love your edits
As a player who is mid transition from console to PC and trying to heavily improve in pvp (haven't touched pve content other than grinding for rolls since season 12) would love to have a part 2 to this video as this video alone has helped me improve so much and upped the consistency of my play
This was a great video part two for sure
I like the ace flag colors for the follow/dono feed
I think my biggest weaknesses stem from me mainly solo-queuing. I've learned most of my tricks from just playing quickplay, so things like the quickdraw glitch never really came up. I know it exists, and I can occasionally do it, but I haven't perfected it. The other is team positioning. I play by myself most of the time, so whenever I go into modes like survival or trials, I'm pretty much just guessing on where to be when. I also have trouble with the whole "isolate each opponent into a series of 1v1's" tactic.
And I would love to see a top-tree dawn video. That's my main subclass, and I've gotten pretty good with using the icarus dash to bait people and move better, but it would be great to get an in-depth breakdown.
the amount of initial jump(the non-abilty jump) is impacted by the number of frames input. If you use the mouse wheel you can do the minimum jump on all 3 classes. It's great for peaking over boxes.
Just the fact that he mentioned Titanfall makes me happy :D
Idk why this feel so much like a podcast 😭but i love it
TIL 4:50 like WHAT? I mean like I did that anyway, but I didn't actually know it worked like that. Great video guys, thanks for sharing your thoughts Physics :)
Me watching improvement vids for crucible fully aware that I don't play that much anymore, but still enjoying it cause it's a Patty vid
"Have watchedh something like this before"
"Try"
"Fail"
"Quit crucible"
"Try to do these stuffs in Apex"
It’s nice that you were able to go in depth on some movement options and how important good movement is to the skill gap, but as a pretty decent number of people have pointed out, this was very focused on the Hunter movement options. Hopefully, we could get something Ike this for titans and warlocks, because their movement options are different and they have to play around their weapons differently usually.
The plan was to do all 3 but we kinda ran out of time. We’ll do a part 2 sometime and cover the other classes!
what is scrims, is it something you can do in quickplay or does it have to be an organized private lobby?
not sure how much it’ll help others but high(er) ranked rainbow six siege and just siege in general taught me specifically how to rotate around a map and create 1v1 engagements
Physics is sick, great video
Ahhh Physics..What an awesome dude
Part 2, yes please.
For someone who has never played mnk what is holding w mean. Is that swapping weapons or what is referred to as quick draw glitch?
Illphysics one of the best streamers IMO
I've played since the beta started for PC and never knew about the holding space thing. I think I've done it subconsciously on warlock when I'm trying to skate really low and fast.
NEED MORE OF THIS!!! I love @illphysics he's so incredibly smart and ultra talented!! plus he is just the nicest guy you will ever meet! Could you in the future make a bigger focus for Console/controller players?!? I love all your videos and tips/tricks but a lot of stuff doesnt transfer over to console/controller and nobody but the legend @shadowdestiny makes controller focused content. thx much love!
Appreciate you patty!
2:20 is a good ass example of hunter movement by the enemy notice how they head bounced backwards
Part 2! Part 2!
*Patty pancakes talking about keeping your distance while playing with a hand cannon*
Me: *Laughs in Sweet Bussiness*
Do it! Part 2
I kind of assumed ft. Physics meant that at some point you were going to jump fail off a cliff or something.
So what would be a good way to start getting into scrims as someone who hasn't done them before (at least not since year 1 of D2)?
Edit: I didn't watch far enough before commenting.
Finnaly just got 100 mobilty for my hunter and are working towards stompes, so this helps a ton.
you can really tell illPhysics wanted to share more
Was looking for movement tips to use against hunters and now I'm just gonna end up playing hunter. Crazy that just a jump type has so much over entire classes.
The tap or hold to affect jump height I learned after about a year of playing hunter
Might be a shame but same lol
part 2 please!!!!!!
hey patty, i wouldnt mind scrimming but i have two problems.
1. do you know if there is an active scrim community on console
2. Should I be at a certain skill level before scrimming, or should I just jump in
My discord server has a number of people who like to scrim on console. I would just jump in!
@@PattycakesGaming thanks!
pls make an updated version
This was way cool.
What Hand cannon is that in the very beginning of the video with the glowing barrel?
Spare rations - an S tier meta pick from a few seasons ago
Let's go another cool video
Would you be able to make a video on timing ?
Great vid. But could you please explain what SCRIM and SWEAT plays are. I just turn up in crucible and point my gun, I guess thats why I'm crap.
Scrims are basically just private matches with a agreed upon ruleset with the idea being to get rid of some of the cheesy weapons/abilities (I won't get into whether they actually acomplish this) and because of the fact that the people seeking out this kind of gameplay tend to be above average the average skill pool in scrims is far higher than quickplay
You deserve at least 100k
1 million. He'll get there
100k Schrutebucks?
@@Kvothe3 2 million Stanley nickles
Movement tips: titans: Welp, no easy way out, no reactive directional dodge, no twilight garrison, no bakris, no dragons shadow, no ophidian aspect, your one tip is; forward
Ophidian aspects doesn't help with movement
Also, stasis titan has the FASTEST movement in the game between the slide and melee. The shoulder charge on the other subclasses can and should also be used for movement.
Clearly, you’re a casual.
Stasis Titan movement is pretty crazy these days tbh
@@mbackup1936 you don’t gotta be like that dude. Also the majority of this video they are talking about scrim related things that benefit movement. Stasis is not allowed in the majority of sweats so yeah Titian’s have it rough when you take stasis out the equation.
But then again stasis titan is depressing
So this is a hunter movement guide. Got it
Yeah distance judging is most important for me
I know this is a little late, but what hand cannon is Tony using at 0:43?
spare rations, it's sunset now
Is part 2 out ?
I wish I could do those sessions with physics but my wifi is terrible for discord streams or anything in general T^T
What's the shader used on your guns it looks awesome
Iridescent Coral mostly
Do you and SirD have the same thumbnail guy? Both of yours look very similar
"So Disrespectful" hahaha I have been disrespected so many times lolool.
Top tree Dawn is beautiful! A lot of hunter mains hate that warlocks can compete with the movement
there is no competition. top dawn is LEAGUES above both the other classes in terms of movement
@@leovahn ok
Hi Pattycakes cool video
Remember going against hominisks( if that’s how you spell it) and blady good times they were good players
Had to rewind a couple times cuz I was too busy watching background footage
Having moved over from warlock recently, it's hard to believe how much faster and smoother hunter is.
Is a he a vet by any chance?
Speaking of physics in D2 can we talk about the physics of Guardians in the game and how they're made of the lightest, bounciest space age material in the galaxy. If your pinky toe so much as grazes a bit of geometry you instantly bounce backwards like you have the same weight as a balloon. I also like how you're Guardian can destroy thousands of enemies single handedly but can't step up a ledge higher than ankle height (I'm looking at you circles in Insight Terminus strike).
One thing i’ve noticed about playing Destiny 2 PVP is that; as i’ve improved, so have many other people. Not to mention all those that were naturally gifted from the start.
So as a result, most quickplay matches just wind up being really lopsided and low skilled players have just quit trying to play for the most part.
Anyone got the link for Physics or Nomads Discord?
23:00 what's this auto rifle?
Ive seen players jump spin in a hunter. How is that done?
Is there an up to date movement guide now?
I am working on an updated aiming guide now, I might do a movement one next
Do you or physics have a group for console (PS) gamers? Would love to be apart of some of these scrims.
Cross-play is upon us! 🙌
Is this a movement video or just an explanation as to why shotty hunters are unbelievable unbalanced in pvp
Hunters literally only have movement which scales with personal skill, they arguably are the weakest of the three characters in destiny 2 based on SUPERS. Neutral game revenant is the only thing that's keeping hunters alive, the super is mediocre at best and stasis itself is a bad idea to run now since the STRONGEST class behemoth titan now can benefit with those new exotics boots that punish stasis users and rewards the users bad positioning (getting hit by stasis with no negatives and getting buffed by the new exotic). Hunters only have movement. A good hunter scales with how superior they can use their movement and map knowledge.
@@callmez_3380 agreed
@@callmez_3380 hunters are so barely alive that you see them take up 2/3rds of every team every game
@@callmez_3380 if your movement is too trash to counter behemoth titans just say that. Sincerely, a former behemoth main/current hunter main (bc it’s honestly just so damn easy to play hunter)
@@FrattyLipps give your gamertag bud so i can see those cracked stats. Behemoths are just a stronger super class no matter what you say boy. Hunter is the king of neutral game.
Hey Patty, could you start doing a quick “what weapon you and your guests have” during your interviews? I’m always looking in the comments for what shotgun or hand cannon you or your guests are using. Thanks!!!
Haha I can try to do that, I have another interview coming soon but we already recorded it so I will try to show that stuff during it if I remember
is that direpromise hes using at @2:13?
spare rations
@@PattycakesGaming bro, can we still farming this gun right now in 2021? or its impossible to get it now? cheers
That was a really good video!
I wanted to know (maybe in a video) how you feel about controller players (in the conversation of aim assist and that controller players are "noobs who abuse aim assist", as well as crouch spamming when firing with a weapon. Do you think this is part of a skill gap? Great video, move on with stuff like that!
I think that aim assist in general will always be somewhat unbalanced. MKB just allows for much higher inherent accuracy potential than controller, so there has to be some systems to close the gap or controller players wouldn’t stand a chance. Then the problem becomes: how MUCH aim assist is okay? This will always be debated on what’s fair, especially when some weapons see more benefits than others (TLW vs DMT for example).
Currently MKB makes up the lack of reticle friction by having much higher movement potential, which I think is a decent trade off. Ultimately they will never be perfectly balanced, but at the highest levels of play in D2 both input methods are fairly well represented by the best players.
@@PattycakesGaming I didn't expect such a good answer to my question! I generally feel the same, but it's really annoying for me (as a controller player) who grow up with controller, when people say "oh this aim assist is insane this shot I would never hit on MKB!" but they forget sometimes that as a controller player, we can't do these crazy turn on flick shots, and I think both input devices are misunderstood by many sweats. The controller player is sadly often the "guy with no skill who needs aim assist to get kills" and mouse and keyboard see themselves as the true skillful gods, which I don't really like. I don't have a problem with both inputs, just play what your comfortable with and the most important thing: to have fun!! I think so many players forget why we are playing video games, so if nobody's cheating, using exploits or something like that, play what you want and have fun!
Let's go I made it on the enemy team
TLDW; Hunters are sexy, play hunter.
Nah but fr great video Patty and Physics, I feel like this will really open up a window of gameplay to newer pvp players and also highlights some of the coolest skillgaps in D2 for more advanced players. Keep up the great work buddy :)
Warlocks have to go to the dark web to get highlights of high tier gaming highlights and advice. We are few but we are deadly. When you meet a warlock that outkills and out performances all the hunters in you crucible match remember what I said. We are few but we are deadly.