Thanks, Fabio. I only notice cpu high Temps when using technical preview drivers . When I activate flouid motion, the frames really are impresive , and then the cpu starts to overheat , using whql drivers without any tweak , the Temps maintain a Temps, anyways the HIGH performance in every game is absolutely amazing the design of my xtx is gourgeos and even If haven tried for example FSR3 yet, in widescreen resolution with all games settings higher as posible.
You're too harsh on yourself man, you've always spoken clearly and fluently. I've been watching for years now and never had issues understanding you lol. Always appreciate your tips and driver updates bro, keep up the great work
Great tips as always. One more humble advice from me: Don't expect your temps to be alright when your case is sitting in an extremely hot room without AC in summer. As long as the ambient temperature is too high, your case configuration can only do so much. If you see this happening to you in summer, try and invest in some kind of AC for the room where your PC is.
For all those who struggle with the typical gcd-hotspot problem on rdna3 cards, I can highly recommend the Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet. It gave me a 30C improvement on my XFX 7900XTX. The gcd-hotspot does not exceed 75C max. even under full load for hours and the gpu-edge does not exceed 55C max. either. The pad is also maintenance-free as it cannot dry out as it is made of graphene and does not contain any liquid.
Awesome video as always, Fabio! The case is really important. I learned it the hard way. I have a 5800X3D and when I got it it was hitting close to 80-85 degrees in some games. I got worried that my chip was probably faulty. Bought an AIO 360 but it did not help much. Only when I decided to upgrade my old NZXT case I saw a massive difference in temps like around 15 degrees cooler. So now it runs at around 65 in game. I underestimated the case and am sharing this, so you guys might not make the same mistake.
Great video Fabio! Lots of really great tips for newbies and seasoned builders alike! The only thing I would add is advising people to run their CPU to operating temperature for at least 5 minutes before unseating the cooler and use a gentle side to side motion to loosen it, never yank straight up. That allows the thermal paste to warm up and will make removing the cooler much safer and easier. I accidentally killed my 2700X when I tried removing the cooler and ending up bending the pins because the thermal paste had basically glued the cooler to the CPU. Just want to save any other PC brothers from making the same mistake :)
replaced the thermal pads on the memory modules and the thermal paste on my xfx merc 7900xt. and also zip tied 3 lian li uni sl120 fans to it removing the stock ones obviously. for thermal paste i used noctua NT-H2 and for the thermal pads i used Owl Tree 12.8W/mK 1mm thickness. made a huge difference. not only in temps but noise. well worth it. oh the fans i have running on full on lian li software. still very quiet. running 31c right now
👍 My patent; Undervolting, Lian Li III case, 7 x 140 fans. Fan controller dependent on gpu temperature for three of them.Gelid extrim paste, top model deepcool CPU cooling , XFX merc graphics card, it is quiet, cold but for big money. 🤷🙋 In a two-tower cooling system, the central fan should spin faster to create a vacuum relative to the external one ! It's a good idea to use incense to blow the smoke and check for turbulence, pulling fans are just as important as ventilation.
in my Q300L, I have 5 intake and 1 exhaust in the back. I removed all 3 mesh on the case and added square rubber feet on top of the one on the PC to rise it a bit more. The vacuum in the case is insane.. You actually feel the plastic side panel being sucked on the case when you open it! And thermal are incredible for both GPU & Cpu with a castle 240ex. Radiator is top mounted and fan outside the case All fan are running on silent mode and I never changed them.
hey Ancient, great video! you probably dont remember my old comment but i fixed my plague tale requiem problem and so u know it wasnt the driver that was the issue! just windows ^^
Good quality case that isn't outrageous in cost is Cooler Master H500. 2 200mm fans in the front move a decent amount of air across it. The top of the case has a removable mesh filter. The case performs well in cooling but I still like block off the top mesh in the front so that it's only open from around the CPU and going back. That way no air leaves the case without moving across the MB. No USB C port on front though. At least it has 4 USB ports on the front. The TD500 V2 is similar, lower price, 1 USB C (10Gbps) but only 2 USB A ports. Doesn't matter if you don't use them but I put my transceivers for the mouse and keyboard there so I prefer 4 ports. And then the HAF 500 is out there. Same port config as the TD500 but has the 2 200mm fans like the H500. The CPU clearance is 167mm for the HAF 500 and H500 and 165mm for the TD500. These Cooler Master cases all work basically the same for their airflow and they rate high in case comparisons but much less cost than the ones that score above them.. The H500 can be picked up at the front of the case because it gives you a handle. Convenient if you have to move the case by hand between different rooms. You can put ANY GPU in the thing. The Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Air Cooler is about the best dual tower you can get for something below $40 USD and it competes against much more expensive coolers. The NH-D15 is good but costs a lot of money AND it's very tall and won't fit in most cases if you have tall memory kits. The Peerless Assassin will fit over almost any kit of memory and still fit in a case with 165mm of CPU clearance. The Scythe Fuma 2 is excellent but because the fans only go up to 1500 RPM so the cooler stays quiet at full speed, I don't like it for CPU that really require high quality cooling, like the 5800X3D.
Your undervolting guide really helped me save power and run cooler. I did face some crashes on games randomly though, unsure whether it's the game or driver or the undervolt.
A few days ago I bought a 7800xt ASRock challenger oc and I noticed during the tests that the temperature delta between gpu temp and hotspot was huge and reached 39 degrees Celsius,then I repasted with MX-4 and the difference dropped to 19 degrees Celsius.As always,the video is excellent,short in duration and understandable, thank you.
What you write is true,the first step I did was,as always,to tighten the screws on the backplate as they were usually a little loose,this card was the cheapest implementation of the 78xt series without meaning that it is of poor quality and I was really surprised by its size,it is 15% smaller than a 6800 powercolor that I had on the PC,the memory reaches 2630 and while I had doubts about the purchase because the Sapphire Nitro+ is the best of the series in terms of silicon but also more expensive,200 euros,in my opinion it was not worth the amount, but in the end I was pleasantly surprised by the challenger at 512 euros and especially after the repaste the core reaches the limits of 2.9 GHz when running games at 1v,and still trying to find her sweet spot, very happy with the purchase.
Nice video as always, I would like to add my experience with my GPU issues with temps. (I get all my info from HWiFO64 and Rivatuner) So I had/have a 7900XT XFX merc 310 Black. The first one had an issue with the GPU hotspot being 30+c warmer than the regular GPU temp, the GCD was hitting 110c which is the thermal limit. I repasted and repadded (the torn pads only) and it "fixed" it for about 2 months but then the huge delta between the reg temp and hotspot temp came back. I RMA'd it and now I have another (new) one from XFX. So far with the new card (tested less than a week at writing) my regular GPU temp while drawing 1-150w is around 1-5c the difference of the GCD hotspot (depending on fan speed the regular GPU temp is 60c and the GCD hotspot is around 62c). Drawing max wattage (350w) the delta goes up to 10-15c. Remember if you have a 7700, 7800, 7900 card you will see (though HWiNFO64) the hotspots of all of your MCDs (cache chiplets) and the GCD (compute chiplet). So sometimes it pays to really have your attention on your GPU temp to figure out if your GPU is not like it should (watch some reviews from people on youtube about what temps you should expect, it is what I did to find out my temps were WAY out of line). Based off of that you know if should RMA it to try and fix the problem. AMD should really press the AIBs to have better quality control though. Edit: all of this was tested with the side panel on and off of my case (normal mid tower with glass side panel) just to make sure it was not an airflow problem.
I have a XFX MERC 319 7800XT It’s inside the O.G Coolermaster H500 (x2 240mm fans) I have it set + airflow. my gpu temps are 43 and the hotspot gets up to 63 ish. Am I good????? I noticed you mentioned 20+ more for hotspot but I know like a car, a liquid cooled engine will always have a hotter spot on the head. Same concept as the die
Makes me glad I never had that delta issue. I give mine a little extra support by tying a little piece of string from the outer-right side to the top of the case. It pains me so much to see it droop, even a little.
I think a Hot Computer is a must here since I live in a cold climate location. At my exact location the temps can go from -25°C in winter and 37°C in the summer. There Are colder places in my country. And around 33 in a long period of time other places. The 37 here is not for a long time..
Besides the ambient room temp, the GPU is the highest temp output part. I like to use an oversized case with 3 big fans in front, aio for cpu on top (either with 3 fans in push config or 6 push pull config, depends on the case size). All vents are correlated with the cpu temp as they ramp up sooner and get the case temp lower faster. With the correct configuration you can get a decent “coolness” to your components, but don’t expect magic to happened, as someone said in the comments, if the room temp is high, the components temp raises exponentially. I managed to get a small ac unit especially to cool the pc and server, that stays in a little room next to the office and the temp is a steady 22c.
Yes, but not aslways "Besides the ambient room temp, the GPU is the highest temp output part.". People with recent cooling solutions for their GPUs and intel CPUs from the 13th & 14th gen won't agree there haha
@@AncientGameplays haha, true :d i am still contemplating if I should spend 2-300 € on a liquid cooler for the 7900xtx, but for not I am fine with 70c max junction temp :d
I have a 21l case which has dust filters on almost all sides except the front. Using only one fan on the rear (no space for more) and a tower cooler for my CPU, temps have been surprisingly amazing despite being in a hot location. I realized I wasted a lot of time thinking about airflow and push pull.
Replacing the GPU thermal paste is the most satisfying thing for me. I don't know why. It doesn't even need to be replaced sometimes lol.... (unless the paste is dry and crunchy) but somehow after replacing it... i feel better. I always have that feeling in my head that GPU factories use a very common basic thermal paste, and if i replace it with something like Arctic MX-6 or the Noctua paste... I feel better knowing it will not dry up for a very very long time
@@pacofernandez4637 Hey, I've seen it too. Even after updating, the version number is the same, but the date is actually Oct 17. It's neither Nov 9 nor Oct 13 (old version). Probably just a small misnomer, though.
Hi Fabio, Great video as always! These tips are very helpful! I followed your guide on undervolting the 7900XTX and now my core temps are at 60C and 70 on the hotspot! In the beginning i was concerned that my CPU temps were way too high (R 7 7700X) but i now fixed it by enabling eco mode and setting my windows power plan to 99% I now do lose out on CPU boosting but i haven't noticed a single frame less than before and when i need it i can still turn it on. Thank you for this great video ❤
My setup: Ryzen 7 7800x3d Rx7800xt Msi mg x670e tomahawk wifi Nzxt H6 airflow Aio Nzxt kraken 360 rgb And i have 3 120mm fans on front intake directly to gpu,2 fans 140mm on the button intake to gpu, and i have 3 120mm from aio outake, i dont have any in rear i really dont need with this case, but normaly gpu when playing got 60° to 70° while cpu goes 80° and stay there
what is the advantage to having stripped drivers? Versus the regular "dont install adrenaline" version of the install. I dont see any benefit other than storage? Genuine interest
@@quintit you can disable a bunch of scheduled tasks to speed things up, remove some devices like high Def audio and noise suppression (helps with latency a lot), and remove certain features like overlay and hotkeys. Also can remove tuning if you rather want to use Msi afterburner instead (I find AMD tuning resets a lot). But the nice thing is you can keep the per game settings instead of having a universal on like amds minimal (on minimal sharping seems to apply to everything even browser and apps that don't really need. Bunch of other stuff to, check out some UA-cam vids.
Techno-Jesus just in time. I just replaced my case. I had mesh case from cougar (mx330g, but i can't recommend it), and just got a small mATX noname case without mesh front, and of course it has worse airflow. BUT it has cool swing door window and it's dirty cheap, like 30$ (new). I will replace it because it's so much worse than slightly more expensive cases and has terrible design and airflow, but at least it's good at absorbing vibrations from hard drives so i used it for a week just to make sure.
How to keep temps down on your 8+ core Zen 3 CPU. Use a dual tower air cooler or AIO. If that's not good enough and you're not OCing the CPU, either your ambient air temp is high or the CPU is unfortunately not a better quality one. In building many Zen 3 based systems in a room that's about 75 degrees F I can generally keep the better 5800X3D parts around 70C running all-core. The ones that aren't as good quality run closer to 80C. I had 2 that red lined at 90C over different sensors. One of those got RMA'd through AMD and BOY do they not like to admit the CPU is an issue and my documentation on the bad CPU was very detailed. I had to deal with doing a return 2 different times so lots of wasted hours dealing with them. For the other 5800X3D I bought it at at Micro Center and I had a debate with the store manager over it, but their return policy doesn't exclude CPUs and once again I showed the evidence of the part getting up to 90C over multiple sensors and showed a typical 5800X3D. It's hard for these companies to deny red lines are bad, but they'll still try. For other 8 core parts, I rarely see them run above 70C unless I give them a slight OC. Once again if they run over 80C, it's not better die and you're stuck with it. It's EASY to work with the 6 core parts. You can buy a 5600, put a 200MHz OC on it via Adrenaline (this adjusts the BIOS, it's not software tweaking which is why you have to reboot the system), and it runs like a 5600X, and STILL has temps around 70C. AND you can use single tower coolers on the 6 core parts WITH an OC AND running 3600 16-18-18-38 memory. With the 5800X and 5800X3D temps go up when running 3600 memory. With the 5700X it's easy to run 3600 memory. It's easy to run 3600 memory with the 6 core parts. It's also surprisingly easy to cool a 5950X and 5900X with a dual tower running 3600 CL16 memory. I wouldn't try to OC those though because they already push high clocks for Zen 3 parts. I don't like the temps going above 80C although if I can give a 200MHz boost and all-core puts me at 81 - 82C I'll go with it. The only Zen 3 parts I've had to replace were 5800X3D. That's a problem part obviously. Out of 9 that I bought, two had to be replaced. That sucks. Everything I said above for temps is ALL-CORE, NOT gaming. It's much easier to keep temps lower than what I said in gaming loads. If you have a problem with temps for the CPU during gaming you have a serious issue or ambient air temp is too high. I have two of those 5800X3D based Zen 3 systems on X570S MBs and 32GB 14-14-14-34 G. Skill memory. There's no need to push to 3600 for gaming since it does little in most games if anything, and the lower latency gives a little boost in fps. It also affects the temp of the 5800X3D and 5800X more than the other parts. The other systems were sold. The CPUs I kept scored over 5600 in Cinebench R20, where the typical score in the range of 5500 - 5560.
You do sound like you know what you are doing! You never mentioned undervolting, this made a significant difference to my 5800X3D. It ran way too hot at first so undervolted by 3mV and improved the case fan ventilation a lot (3 -> 7 fans). Now at 100% performance in Cyberpunk at 1440p it never exceeds like 62 deg C. If the room warms up a bit sometimes might creep a degree or 2 higher. I think I was lucky in the silicon lottery with mine.
My problem is that I have to lower the fan speed because hotspot temps always make the fans speed high. I dont want my fans to ramp up due to hotspot temps rather ramp up to high GPU temps. English isnt my 1st language , hope u understand what i wanna say
I'm currently running a Tecware fusion small form factor case with only one 120mm Exhaust on the rear. While gaming at 1440p, temps for both CPU and GPU never go above 70 degrees. In my previous mid tower case, I had 5 case fans and the temps were easily over 80 everytime.
@@AncientGameplays Unfortunately there is no space for additional fans. We don't get 80mm fans here where I live, and slim ones are even harder to find while being expensive.
Hi Fabio, great video as always! Could you do a video for this error: default performance tuning settings have been restored due to an unexpected system failure, please? I think a lot of people have this problem in these days. Many thanks.
@@AncientGameplays I play Battlefield 2042, since they started to updated it the problem just happened more and more often and these day's the game literally unplayable. I tried reinstall everything. tried with oc settings and without oc settings, still the same error: game close itself or the full pc restarting. Terrible!
I live in a pretty hot climate so high temps are almost a guarantee most of the time. My 6950xt usually reach mid 80 to low 90cs when i join a really demanding game at 1440p like cyberpunk for example.i do under volt abit so it's not runnin as hot as out of the box😅
@@AncientGameplays Funnily enough, i follwed your undervolt guide and that helped it decrease the temps by alot, no longer 3 digit atleast. I could try repasting but i dont want to void my warranty. Currently using the msi gaming x trio 6950xt in 4000d airflow with 3 intake lul
@AncientGameplays any plans on doing a video on best amd obs recording and streaming settings? these are really hard to find and i know youd smash it buddy
I noticed the importance of case airflow in my brothers PC. He had really horrible temps with the first case he bought, so i told him to buy another one with more fan slots. 10C drop in GPU temperatures with a case swap...
Hey Fabio. Cool video. You didn't said anything regarding Nvme Heatsinks. IDk if you tried playing a game using an overheated Nvme ... it's laggy/spiky/choppy and might even throttle it's way to BSOD
@@AncientGameplays Any gen4 NVMe that's worth a crap runs fast and needs a cooler on it. You get into problems because SOME AMD based systems have the first NVMe port below the GPU, and it's ALSO the one that connects to the CPU which is the optimal to use for the OS/programs and some games as in the newer ones that have higher demands. An NVMe in that spot should have a heatsink regardless. You either get a lack of airflow there when the GPU is doing little work, or when gaming and the GPU heats up you get warm air pushed at it. And I'm pretty sure the same would be true for Intel based systems where that first NVMe connects to the CPU. There are some MBs where the NVMe port is above the GPU slot. I like that config but unfortunately the MBs I like the best have the PCIe X16 slot closest to the CPU so the first NVMe is below the GPU. For instance the Gigabyte X570S Aorus Elite/Elite AX boards do EXACTLY what I expect them to do and the other PCIe slots on them all connect to the chipset. It means that the one X16 slot gets the full attention of the CPU, you can't run an X8-X8 config, but I use one GPU so I don't care. I know there's a lack of games that use Microsoft DirectStorage right now but that will change and the work load on the NVMe during game play will increase. Because I want certain games to have very fast disk access (newer games like 2021 and newer) AND because my system requires one disk goes under the GPU, I use the 2nd NVMe port that isn't buried under the GPU to load those games on so it's not as bad for heat. I'd use the third port that's the furthest from the GPU for games but I do dual OS and that has Linux on it. The 2nd port has a WD SN850X and yes they're fast.
How hot is yours getting? Mine never goes above 55 without the heatsink on. I have one, but I wanted to see how it ran without it, and yea it's been running fine. Silicon power UD90 4Tb tlc.
@@quintit I have 2. A NV1 without DRAM. A 970 Evo with DRAM. The DRAM chips get hotter by nature. It's normal if they run at some higher temps. The NV1 without heatsink was doing 45 Celsius. And it was throttling. There were spikes in games. I play competitively ... so ... that's a problem for me ... The 970 Evo was at 55 without heatsink. Also. Very bad experience. Much throttle. With heatsink (5 bucks, cheappo stuff): NV1 is at 37 and 970Evo is at 42. No more throttling. Everything runs smooth AF. All temps are in gaming situations. Not full workloads, where you stress-test it by copying hundreds of GB of files to it. The whole thing is subjective. My mom for instance doesn't have a heatsink on her SSD, but she's 65 and doesn't game. And especially not competitively. For her, it runs just fine. For us sweaty gamers ... a Heatsink is a must ...
Hey love the work you put into your videos! I have a AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT OC Formula 16GB and I have to ask about your take on ideal junction temperature ratio towards fan speed?
Ich habe das Programm Fan Control für mich entdeckt, damit kann man alle Lüfter bis auf die GPU steuern. Und kann im Laufenden Betrieb alles so einstellen wie man möchte, dazu der kleine Tipp, die Drehzahlen für jeden Lüfter so hoch zu setzen das man diesen gerade so Hört, und dann eine Kurve die bei den Höchsten Desktop Temperaturen beginnt. Bei mir z.B.: wenn ich in UA-cam einfach lange rauf runter scrolle, da geht die Temperatur schon mal auf 65°, also beginnt die Kurve bei 68° und geht dann bei 88° in die Senkrechte 100%. Dazu kann man dann auch noch einstellen das IMMER die Höchste Temperatur Quelle genommen wird z.B.: wenn die GPU 76° hat und die CPU nur 65° werden die 76° der GPU als Basis für die Drehzahlen genommen. Somit ist in jeder Situation genug Luftbewegung im Gehäuse.
Undervolting a CPU works. I've got a RT 1700X with a Gammax air cooler I'd been running in power saving mode because the cooler is inadequate at stock voltage. Manually undervolted the CPU and now I can run it at high performance mode 3900MHz and I am seeing 75c and below in all games except Forespoken. Temps are mostly in the 60s now. I got Forespoken in ultra everything 1440p plus RT and I saw 76c. Turns out 1700X is STILL a gaming beast for everything even now except for CP2077 and Starfield. But if that's the case then the optimization of those two games is very poor. I like to know more about what are good mobo temps and how high is safe? Forespoken took my mobo to 60c. Room temperature was at least 85f though.
Yes, but 75C for that CPU is a lot, you should push it that much, max temps raised a bit after the Ryzen 2000 series. I would try to keep it below 70C. Also, your case airflow might be the issues as that gammax isn't thaaaaaat bad hahaha
@@AncientGameplays TDP is supposed to be 75C. It only happens when game is in loading phase then drops back to 50s and 60s when gaming. I might have to reapply thermal paste though. This case has good air flow. I think it's a room temp issue I live in a hot and very humid climate. What do you think good mobo temps are and when should you back off? In my research the consensus seems to be 80C.
@@AncientGameplays Seems I was correct about room temp. We had a cold front come through last night. Room temp, dew point, and humidity combo are all huge it seems. I ran the exact same Forespoken scenario again with the Gammax and this time time CPU only reached 62.8 and mobo 53...wow!
i have build a high perfomance computer in a poor case, its a montech fighter 500, soon i wil swap it for a more open one and acrilic panel but its so hard to find here with acrilic panel idk why, i want acrilic panel to do some more ventilations
Clean yo intake fans. Just dedusted my pc and the dust bunnies on the blade tips of the fans made it have no airflow at all. After cleaning just the edges of the fan blades, my gpu temps went down by 15c (in idle)(peak temps went down by 5 to 8c).
LOL my case has 19 external fans, and 7 internal fans. I have two 40 mm noctua exhaust fans right behind my vertically mounted GPU to push any hot air trapped between the back of the GPU and the mobo out of the case. This was a really good addition. Everything else wasn't necessary, but looks cool! I also have a mesh front panel. My case is a 7000D from corsair. Probably the best thing corsair ever made LOL. Would recommend that case from corsair but nothing else from corsair! I legitimately love my computer after spending so much time building it and debugging it, and she looks amazing!
With HWiNFO64, what's your opinion of the GPU Hot Spot Temperature reading? I've got an undervolted 6800 XT. Typical maximum gpu temp of 67C, but maximum Hot Spot temp of 90C+!
that is a lot, means you should undervolt or change the GPU's thermal paste. The delta should be at max 20C, in your case its over 23C. Its nor harmful, but a good thermal paste could solve the issue I guess, and like said, good airflow also helps
I don’t have any temp issues, but do u think removing the side panel would decrease temps because there is more airflow that can come in or would it just ruin the flow of well the airflow
Yea, I've ran without a side panel for years now. You do get lower temps, mostly for the gpu. Make sure you run a few games and see how hot each game makes your cpu before you try it, just to compare properly. (Also, I have a ceiling fan on all the time, and the case is open facing the fan, so that helps.) Some people might comment about dust, but I keep the my house clean and I just cleaned my mobo for the first time in 4 years, and it was basically unaffected. The heat sink on my cpu cooler was dusty, but not literally clogged. Plus, it took me maybe 20 minutes to thoroughly dust everything.
have a sapphire rx 6900xt nitro+ se and when playin cod mw2 my gpu temps are 90 or 95 i rampped up thee fans and all that but yehh idk if thats are stable temps for this particular gpu. good bless abracos de bosnia
Thanks for video! Great explanation. I have 7900xt from gigabite and unfortunatelly its loud, i already fixed gpu fan speed but it do not helped, should i try undervolt it?
As a lot of people that watch this video have AMD - The best fix... that would also make a difference to the power bill... is amd fixing the max VRAM clock issue for multiple screens. 😥 Sadly on dual 1440p with more than 120hz its still happening
My gpu heats up to 100 c hotspot temp when case is closed and 92 c max when case is open. My case is corsair spec 5. ( Two fans front ) Cpu: Ryzen 5 3600, Cooler: corsair h60 ( Due to this liquid cooler i can't put 2 fans 1 back and 1 top of case) Gpu: sapphire pulse rx 6750 xt Motherboard: msi b450m pro vdh max Let me know what should i do to increase the airflow with case closed if possible.
I got the 7700x and in Battlefield sometimes reaching 95c. I managed to change something in my bios and now it wont go higher than 85c. People still saying this is way too high :(
That is way too high for gaming. Set a manual undervolt instead of pbo. Idk that cpu, but reset your bios, see what frequency and voltage it runs at while in cinebench (should be about 1.3V and around 4800mhz), then set that voltage/freq combination in ryzen master. Then slowly lower the voltage by tiny amounts (ryzen master defaults to 0.00625 per tick, do that), test r23 after each adjustment. Then once it crashes, just go up one more and you should have a good undervolt. Once you get the right adjustment in ryzen master, apply that in your bios. For reference, mine is 4300@1.1125 5900x and it doesnt go over 40-45 in games or 75 in cinebench. Small air cooler.
Olá Fábio, adquiri um 7800X3D, mas ainda não me decidi num AIO. É a primeira vez que vou optar por um AIO, Sei que os Arctic Freezer II, e os deepcool são bem aceites pela comunidade, alguma sugestão para além destes? Também olhei para os da mars gaming que já fizeste review, mas tenho receio que não seja suficiente para o 7800X3D. O maior problema, é que quero manter um tema branco
Viva, eu se fosse a si partiria para outra, tenho vários AIO e não consigo gostar mais deles do que dos meus aircoolers... Eu pegava um da deepcool, ou talvez da thermalright ou até o noctua d15s como eu tenho
Hello Sir, Just a question pls I have a 5950x, what do you think which is better for the game, all core tuning 4.6ghz or first cores at a higher clock rate?!
I managed to do a cpu tuning. the first 3 cores are 5125ghz 4,5,6, core 5ghz and the rest are between 4,8 and 5ghz. there is a problem that the d15 chromax doesn't hold up very well, so I have to build a water cooling system , I can't copy the hwinfo image here :S Thank you for the many videos you make about amd and the many tech videos!❤
You can try to set the fan curve higher, I'm using the tuning in the adrenaline software. My sapphire model was running the fans way too slowly as well (20% at 90°C) so when pushing it to 55% it's now at 70°C more or less whatever the temperature of the day is. And undervolting does wonders if it's stable, for mine the driver sometimes resets but otherwise is fine
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Hey Ancient, why my new Ryzen 5 5600 doesn't automatically use its boost clock feature (4.4ghz) when testing Cinebench? HWInfo shows that all cores are @3.5ghz (base clock) on 100% load. I needed OC manually it to 4.35ghz, but I want max performance, of course, for gaming. I can't manually OC it to boost clock because it somehow start eat Volts, and I get really high temps (over 100C on prime95 small test, and the pc shut down, this happened with 1.35V) with the Volts the processor needs to be running 4.4ghz - 4.5ghz (Cooler Master Evo 212, air flow). Should I try Curve Optimizer OC option? Another question is: Do I get significant benefit to gaming if I get new motherboard that supports the SAM (Smart Access Memory) feature? My Mobo currently is Asus Prime B350-Plus (from year 2017). Thank you alot in your effort for your answer! I subscribed btw ^^
Hey, firstly in high loads those CPUs will never be at 4.4GHz, those frequencies are for lower loads where maybe 3 or 4 cores push those values (at max), the usual would be around 4.2GHz. If it is still at base, it means your mobo isn't pushing PBO and speed steps
@@AncientGameplays Hey, thanks for your reply. That was new info for me, I didnt know that it never boost all clocks to max boost at full load. Well, im sitting stable 4.35ghz manual OC, temps are 65-70 at gaming and 83-84 full load when running cinebench. I think im going with this settings for now. Is it even possible manually OC over lets say 4.5ghz this cpu? Mine start eat volts @4.4ghz and I dont want put higher than 1.35V ultimate maximum.
I said up to 75C degress though. 65C under gaming is normal even for the 5800X. I guess you just need (listen explained in this video) a better case / better cooler. I have the 5600X, 5800X3D, 7600X, 7700X, all of them run under 75C when gaming
@@AncientGameplays Well, my 5800X is around 70-75 degree while gaming. I got best possible airflow - O11 Air mini, dual 140 on front, dual 120 on top, 120mm on back, dual 120 on bottom. CPU cooler was Noctua NHD15 and now Scythe Fuma 2. Its best you can get out of this coolers on 5800X, and its also limited by PPT, TDC and EDC manual values.
100 degrees on junction (i hope) maybe are high. 90 are normal. My 6700 with default settings reaches 90 degrees. Like me, you should do undervolting, my opinion.
normal? No. But it may happen in lower end models, due to poor cooling ability, the lack of pressure and so on... usually a change in thermal paste helps
@@AncientGameplays i have a sapphire pulse (2 fans) 6700, with uv i have max 90 degrees on hotspot, in summer max 92'..without uv everyone reach 90 and over degrees with 6xxx series. For normal, i said this
my card is from sapphire (Pulse), will the arctic MX-4 Do the job or it is a must to buy a high end paste like thermal grizzly kryonaut?@@AncientGameplays
What cpu? My brother tried using the stock cooler from his old cpu on a 5800x and just let it casually sit at 95 constantly. Had to get him an actual cooler lol
Try it, but for me open has always let it run cooler. Especially with most gpus these days not spitting air out the back, but instead also out the side. Noise is a factor.
@@quintit You are right that leaving the chassis open makes the PC run cooler, but apart from the noise factor, as you say, it also gets more dust in, so there is no one without the other 😅
Eh, ive had mine off for 4 years, and I just cleaned my entire pc for the first time in a few years and it was pretty much unscathed. It's not as bad as people say.@@mayito-cuba-tv1534
@@AncientGameplays nevermind ryzen works but when i oc ramm and i reset it goes blackscren when i hold power booton and go to bios its automaticly disabled do u think id i drop from 6400 ddr5 to 6000ddr5 is is big diference or no
Why getting more air in causes less dust than more air out? Doesn't make sense. This is a myth the rgb="gaming pc" boys believe. The truth is you need to have proper big filtered intake so it stop crud getting in and you don't even need fans blowing air in cause the exhaust fans draw the air from the front to blow it out the back already, so front fans is just extra noise.
I've got an msi 7900xtx gaming trio classic, card would be around 59/65 C and have an hotspot of 84 up to 94, if i set the power limit up to +8% It tends to go above 95 in the hotspot, should I rma?
That hotspot delta is definitely on the hot side. Did your gpu come with a support bracket ? This seems like an issue of uneven contact caused by sagging.
I have 7900 XTX on 100% load my temps are like that with +10% PL (in a small mini ITX build). As far as I know and could find... If Hotspot is around 20 degrees over gpu temp is normal. Hotspot is max temp registered over multiple sensors and it should be OK under 100 but not really sure about this 😅. I'm confident as silicon critical temp seems to be 125 and the GPU and CPU all have built in controls to prevent damage (throttling)
My first 7900XT did this (60 reg temp 100-110c hotspot) even with a support for sagging after a few months, i repasted and padded the torn pads and it only helped for around 2 months. I ended up getting a RMA and now my delta at max wattage is around 10-15c at 350w. No idea if it will stay that good but it does seem like some coolers were made....poorly lets say.
@@Azureskies01 Messing with thermal pads is almost never a good idea. They often end up being the wrong size or thickness and making temps worse. If you think of resorting to changing pads you might as well start the rma process early.
@@Nein99x I was in contact with XFX and got the size and thermal conductivity from them so I didn't have any reservations about changing the pads. Torn pads are very likely to mess with the thermals of whatever they were contacting as well. I will agree though, if you don't have torn pads just leave them be. Lot less of a headache that way.
Today AMD announced they drop the driver support for Vega and Polaris which came out back in 2017 while Nvidia still supports older GPU dating back to 2014. AMD Copeon Terrible Group continue to advance to drop the ball unsurprisingly. All I can say is: RIP AMD🎉
Bro is literally lying for brand loyalty 😂😂 Nvidea stopped game ready support for 700 series back in 2021 bro, thats 9 years, please, direct me to your source that states nvidea is still making game ready drivers for cards from 2014 😂😂
As always, hope I helped somehow!
Hey will you ever make an overclocking guide for the RX 7900XT?
@@themightymug768use the xtx one, its exactly the same
@@AncientGameplays ok thanks 🫡
As you remade that video, my cpu actually did burn a little too high it shut down my pc, thank you for this video, tips, and much more. :D
Thanks, Fabio. I only notice cpu high Temps when using technical preview drivers . When I activate flouid motion, the frames really are impresive , and then the cpu starts to overheat , using whql drivers without any tweak , the Temps maintain a Temps, anyways the HIGH performance in every game is absolutely amazing the design of my xtx is gourgeos and even If haven tried for example FSR3 yet, in widescreen resolution with all games settings higher as posible.
You're too harsh on yourself man, you've always spoken clearly and fluently. I've been watching for years now and never had issues understanding you lol.
Always appreciate your tips and driver updates bro, keep up the great work
i agree im from france my english isnt so good but i ve always understood him perfectly
Thank you!
Great tips as always. One more humble advice from me: Don't expect your temps to be alright when your case is sitting in an extremely hot room without AC in summer. As long as the ambient temperature is too high, your case configuration can only do so much.
If you see this happening to you in summer, try and invest in some kind of AC for the room where your PC is.
Exactly, that's why I spoke in terms of ambient temps as well
I'm from a place where average temperatures in summer are 45 but my pc has been cool thanks to undervolting.
For all those who struggle with the typical gcd-hotspot problem on rdna3 cards, I can highly recommend the Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet.
It gave me a 30C improvement on my XFX 7900XTX.
The gcd-hotspot does not exceed 75C max. even under full load for hours and the gpu-edge does not exceed 55C max. either.
The pad is also maintenance-free as it cannot dry out as it is made of graphene and does not contain any liquid.
Thanks, Jared Leto! Nice vídeo!!
Awesome video as always, Fabio! The case is really important. I learned it the hard way. I have a 5800X3D and when I got it it was hitting close to 80-85 degrees in some games. I got worried that my chip was probably faulty. Bought an AIO 360 but it did not help much. Only when I decided to upgrade my old NZXT case I saw a massive difference in temps like around 15 degrees cooler. So now it runs at around 65 in game. I underestimated the case and am sharing this, so you guys might not make the same mistake.
Exactly why I said what I said, case airflow can mess with your hole system temps.
Great video Fabio! Lots of really great tips for newbies and seasoned builders alike!
The only thing I would add is advising people to run their CPU to operating temperature for at least 5 minutes before unseating the cooler and use a gentle side to side motion to loosen it, never yank straight up. That allows the thermal paste to warm up and will make removing the cooler much safer and easier. I accidentally killed my 2700X when I tried removing the cooler and ending up bending the pins because the thermal paste had basically glued the cooler to the CPU. Just want to save any other PC brothers from making the same mistake :)
This is a good troubleshooting guide for ppl with high temps, nice
Thanks!
replaced the thermal pads on the memory modules and the thermal paste on my xfx merc 7900xt. and also zip tied 3 lian li uni sl120 fans to it removing the stock ones obviously. for thermal paste i used noctua NT-H2 and for the thermal pads i used Owl Tree 12.8W/mK 1mm thickness. made a huge difference. not only in temps but noise. well worth it. oh the fans i have running on full on lian li software. still very quiet. running 31c right now
Insane mods haha
All you needed was PTM7950 paste. That made a huge difference for me.
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I recently replaced my XFX 7900XT thermal paste with PTM7950 and have seen massive improvements to hotspot temps.
Same with me!
Did you also replace thermal pads or it wasn’t needed?
@@sdah9884 I only did the paste. Be careful with the pads, you need to do them correctly or else.
@@mantid83 yeah thats what im not looking forward to in the future lol
@@sdah9884 naw, you're good. Just replacing the paste is fine. That alone helped dramatically. Pads are not needed at all.
Of course you helped, you always do. These videos are very educational so keep them coming.
Thank you
The Ancient Gamer hath spoketh!
Got a 7700x and I can confirm it usually pulls 75 - 80 degree temps sometimes rarely goes above 80 for games heavy loaded ones
On hotspot that's nothing
👍 My patent; Undervolting, Lian Li III case, 7 x 140 fans. Fan controller dependent on gpu temperature for three of them.Gelid extrim paste, top model deepcool CPU cooling , XFX merc graphics card, it is quiet, cold but for big money. 🤷🙋 In a two-tower cooling system, the central fan should spin faster to create a vacuum relative to the external one ! It's a good idea to use incense to blow the smoke and check for turbulence, pulling fans are just as important as ventilation.
Indeed
in my Q300L, I have 5 intake and 1 exhaust in the back. I removed all 3 mesh on the case and added square rubber feet on top of the one on the PC to rise it a bit more. The vacuum in the case is insane.. You actually feel the plastic side panel being sucked on the case when you open it! And thermal are incredible for both GPU & Cpu with a castle 240ex. Radiator is top mounted and fan outside the case All fan are running on silent mode and I never changed them.
Great common sense improvements to the Cooler Master case. Didn't take millions in Research and Development.
@@roythunderplump 🤣🤣🤣🤣
hey Ancient, great video! you probably dont remember my old comment but i fixed my plague tale requiem problem and so u know it wasnt the driver that was the issue! just windows ^^
Yeah, thanks for letting me know. I knew it wasn't the drivers haha
Good quality case that isn't outrageous in cost is Cooler Master H500. 2 200mm fans in the front move a decent amount of air across it. The top of the case has a removable mesh filter. The case performs well in cooling but I still like block off the top mesh in the front so that it's only open from around the CPU and going back. That way no air leaves the case without moving across the MB. No USB C port on front though. At least it has 4 USB ports on the front.
The TD500 V2 is similar, lower price, 1 USB C (10Gbps) but only 2 USB A ports. Doesn't matter if you don't use them but I put my transceivers for the mouse and keyboard there so I prefer 4 ports.
And then the HAF 500 is out there. Same port config as the TD500 but has the 2 200mm fans like the H500. The CPU clearance is 167mm for the HAF 500 and H500 and 165mm for the TD500.
These Cooler Master cases all work basically the same for their airflow and they rate high in case comparisons but much less cost than the ones that score above them..
The H500 can be picked up at the front of the case because it gives you a handle. Convenient if you have to move the case by hand between different rooms. You can put ANY GPU in the thing.
The Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE CPU Air Cooler is about the best dual tower you can get for something below $40 USD and it competes against much more expensive coolers.
The NH-D15 is good but costs a lot of money AND it's very tall and won't fit in most cases if you have tall memory kits. The Peerless Assassin will fit over almost any kit of memory and still fit in a case with 165mm of CPU clearance.
The Scythe Fuma 2 is excellent but because the fans only go up to 1500 RPM so the cooler stays quiet at full speed, I don't like it for CPU that really require high quality cooling, like the 5800X3D.
That's a good deal, you also have some from Phatenks for example, others from LianLi
One more thing to add: If your GPU is running hot, it can also be poor cooler itself, like on MSI Ventus (2x) series...
No need to add though as I speak about that on the video as well haha
Thank You!
Pearless Assasin, damn it's so cheap they stole it's pear : ))). Thanks for the vid.
I fixed my high temps with 2 360mm rads CPU/GPU waterblocks d5 pump/res a little tubing and a few fittings, problem solved 😁
That's because the tubing was defective?
Your undervolting guide really helped me save power and run cooler. I did face some crashes on games randomly though, unsure whether it's the game or driver or the undervolt.
games never crash just because, neither do the drivers (usually). Raise the voltage a bit
A few days ago I bought a 7800xt ASRock challenger oc and I noticed during the tests that the temperature delta between gpu temp and hotspot was huge and reached 39 degrees Celsius,then I repasted with MX-4 and the difference dropped to 19 degrees Celsius.As always,the video is excellent,short in duration and understandable, thank you.
That's what usually happens on lower end models, the delta is huge due to bad paste and low backplate pressure
What you write is true,the first step I did was,as always,to tighten the screws on the backplate as they were usually a little loose,this card was the cheapest implementation of the 78xt series without meaning that it is of poor quality and I was really surprised by its size,it is 15% smaller than a 6800 powercolor that I had on the PC,the memory reaches 2630 and while I had doubts about the purchase because the Sapphire Nitro+ is the best of the series in terms of silicon but also more expensive,200 euros,in my opinion it was not worth the amount, but in the end I was pleasantly surprised by the challenger at 512 euros and especially after the repaste the core reaches the limits of 2.9 GHz when running games at 1v,and still trying to find her sweet spot, very happy with the purchase.
Nice video as always, I would like to add my experience with my GPU issues with temps.
(I get all my info from HWiFO64 and Rivatuner) So I had/have a 7900XT XFX merc 310 Black. The first one had an issue with the GPU hotspot being 30+c warmer than the regular GPU temp, the GCD was hitting 110c which is the thermal limit. I repasted and repadded (the torn pads only) and it "fixed" it for about 2 months but then the huge delta between the reg temp and hotspot temp came back. I RMA'd it and now I have another (new) one from XFX.
So far with the new card (tested less than a week at writing) my regular GPU temp while drawing 1-150w is around 1-5c the difference of the GCD hotspot (depending on fan speed the regular GPU temp is 60c and the GCD hotspot is around 62c). Drawing max wattage (350w) the delta goes up to 10-15c.
Remember if you have a 7700, 7800, 7900 card you will see (though HWiNFO64) the hotspots of all of your MCDs (cache chiplets) and the GCD (compute chiplet).
So sometimes it pays to really have your attention on your GPU temp to figure out if your GPU is not like it should (watch some reviews from people on youtube about what temps you should expect, it is what I did to find out my temps were WAY out of line). Based off of that you know if should RMA it to try and fix the problem.
AMD should really press the AIBs to have better quality control though.
Edit: all of this was tested with the side panel on and off of my case (normal mid tower with glass side panel) just to make sure it was not an airflow problem.
I have a XFX MERC 319 7800XT
It’s inside the O.G Coolermaster H500 (x2 240mm fans) I have it set + airflow. my gpu temps are 43 and the hotspot gets up to 63 ish. Am I good????? I noticed you mentioned 20+ more for hotspot but I know like a car, a liquid cooled engine will always have a hotter spot on the head. Same concept as the die
@@Jwebbplayz If under full load your hotspot is only 60-65c then yeah i would say you are more than good
Makes me glad I never had that delta issue. I give mine a little extra support by tying a little piece of string from the outer-right side to the top of the case. It pains me so much to see it droop, even a little.
@@quintit I have a helicopter 🚁 in mine on 2 lb test invisible 🫥 fishing line and the propellers spin when the pc is on lol
I think a Hot Computer is a must here since I live in a cold climate location.
At my exact location the temps can go from -25°C in winter and 37°C in the summer.
There Are colder places in my country.
And around 33 in a long period of time other places.
The 37 here is not for a long time..
Besides the ambient room temp, the GPU is the highest temp output part. I like to use an oversized case with 3 big fans in front, aio for cpu on top (either with 3 fans in push config or 6 push pull config, depends on the case size). All vents are correlated with the cpu temp as they ramp up sooner and get the case temp lower faster. With the correct configuration you can get a decent “coolness” to your components, but don’t expect magic to happened, as someone said in the comments, if the room temp is high, the components temp raises exponentially. I managed to get a small ac unit especially to cool the pc and server, that stays in a little room next to the office and the temp is a steady 22c.
Yes, but not aslways "Besides the ambient room temp, the GPU is the highest temp output part.".
People with recent cooling solutions for their GPUs and intel CPUs from the 13th & 14th gen won't agree there haha
@@AncientGameplays haha, true :d i am still contemplating if I should spend 2-300 € on a liquid cooler for the 7900xtx, but for not I am fine with 70c max junction temp :d
I have a 21l case which has dust filters on almost all sides except the front. Using only one fan on the rear (no space for more) and a tower cooler for my CPU, temps have been surprisingly amazing despite being in a hot location. I realized I wasted a lot of time thinking about airflow and push pull.
Happiest. Dude. Ever.
Hahaha
Replacing the GPU thermal paste is the most satisfying thing for me. I don't know why. It doesn't even need to be replaced sometimes lol.... (unless the paste is dry and crunchy) but somehow after replacing it... i feel better. I always have that feeling in my head that GPU factories use a very common basic thermal paste, and if i replace it with something like Arctic MX-6 or the Noctua paste... I feel better knowing it will not dry up for a very very long time
because they do, the cheaper cooling solutions (and sometimes even the high end ones), use very cheap thermal paste
@@AncientGameplays Not Sapphire apparently. Their 7700 and 7800 are very low temps considering the high TDP! :D
Negative pressure airflow is the best if you don't mind cleaning dust each week. If you're lazy like me just set the airflow to positive pressure.
Each week? You never had negative pressure before have you?
Nah, negative airflow just exhaust air, making absolutely no cool air to enter the case to cool up the components
Excited to see your review of Radeon preview build 23.30.01.03 just released today.
Just downloaded it, will test it soon
@@AncientGameplays Nice. Thank you!
Hi Flavio ! , where did you download it ? it appears they did not update it and still downloading the 23.30.01.02 @@AncientGameplays
@@pacofernandez4637
Hey, I've seen it too.
Even after updating, the version number is the same, but the date is actually Oct 17.
It's neither Nov 9 nor Oct 13 (old version).
Probably just a small misnomer, though.
@@AncientGameplays Hey, Fabio, they've updated it again, now with the correct date and version number (Nov 9, 23.30.01.03).
Hi Fabio,
Great video as always! These tips are very helpful! I followed your guide on undervolting the 7900XTX and now my core temps are at 60C and 70 on the hotspot!
In the beginning i was concerned that my CPU temps were way too high (R 7 7700X) but i now fixed it by enabling eco mode and setting my windows power plan to 99% I now do lose out on CPU boosting but i haven't noticed a single frame less than before and when i need it i can still turn it on.
Thank you for this great video ❤
For CPU temperature another key thing is vrm quality if you have cheap motherboard then you must upgrade it .
Can also be a thing yes
My setup:
Ryzen 7 7800x3d
Rx7800xt
Msi mg x670e tomahawk wifi
Nzxt H6 airflow
Aio Nzxt kraken 360 rgb
And i have 3 120mm fans on front intake directly to gpu,2 fans 140mm on the button intake to gpu, and i have 3 120mm from aio outake, i dont have any in rear i really dont need with this case, but normaly gpu when playing got 60° to 70° while cpu goes 80° and stay there
I love these tut videos. You should do one for AMD driver slimmer, it debloats the driver like NVClean Install and it will be helpful for others.
what is the advantage to having stripped drivers? Versus the regular "dont install adrenaline" version of the install. I dont see any benefit other than storage? Genuine interest
@@quintit you can disable a bunch of scheduled tasks to speed things up, remove some devices like high Def audio and noise suppression (helps with latency a lot), and remove certain features like overlay and hotkeys. Also can remove tuning if you rather want to use Msi afterburner instead (I find AMD tuning resets a lot). But the nice thing is you can keep the per game settings instead of having a universal on like amds minimal (on minimal sharping seems to apply to everything even browser and apps that don't really need. Bunch of other stuff to, check out some UA-cam vids.
In resume.
1. CPU with or more than 6 heatpipes.
2. GPU very clean.
3. CASE Meshy and aerodynamic.
Switching to a fractal torrent compact case with noctua fans and cpu cooler dropped my temps😊
It had to haha
I’ve got a 7800xt in a fractal terra, did a gpu repaste brought temps to 33c from 48c during idle
Techno-Jesus just in time. I just replaced my case. I had mesh case from cougar (mx330g, but i can't recommend it), and just got a small mATX noname case without mesh front, and of course it has worse airflow. BUT it has cool swing door window and it's dirty cheap, like 30$ (new). I will replace it because it's so much worse than slightly more expensive cases and has terrible design and airflow, but at least it's good at absorbing vibrations from hard drives so i used it for a week just to make sure.
Cases aroun $100 are the best bets, with good overall price/perf
How to keep temps down on your 8+ core Zen 3 CPU. Use a dual tower air cooler or AIO. If that's not good enough and you're not OCing the CPU, either your ambient air temp is high or the CPU is unfortunately not a better quality one.
In building many Zen 3 based systems in a room that's about 75 degrees F I can generally keep the better 5800X3D parts around 70C running all-core. The ones that aren't as good quality run closer to 80C. I had 2 that red lined at 90C over different sensors. One of those got RMA'd through AMD and BOY do they not like to admit the CPU is an issue and my documentation on the bad CPU was very detailed. I had to deal with doing a return 2 different times so lots of wasted hours dealing with them. For the other 5800X3D I bought it at at Micro Center and I had a debate with the store manager over it, but their return policy doesn't exclude CPUs and once again I showed the evidence of the part getting up to 90C over multiple sensors and showed a typical 5800X3D.
It's hard for these companies to deny red lines are bad, but they'll still try.
For other 8 core parts, I rarely see them run above 70C unless I give them a slight OC. Once again if they run over 80C, it's not better die and you're stuck with it.
It's EASY to work with the 6 core parts. You can buy a 5600, put a 200MHz OC on it via Adrenaline (this adjusts the BIOS, it's not software tweaking which is why you have to reboot the system), and it runs like a 5600X, and STILL has temps around 70C. AND you can use single tower coolers on the 6 core parts WITH an OC AND running 3600 16-18-18-38 memory.
With the 5800X and 5800X3D temps go up when running 3600 memory. With the 5700X it's easy to run 3600 memory.
It's easy to run 3600 memory with the 6 core parts.
It's also surprisingly easy to cool a 5950X and 5900X with a dual tower running 3600 CL16 memory. I wouldn't try to OC those though because they already push high clocks for Zen 3 parts. I don't like the temps going above 80C although if I can give a 200MHz boost and all-core puts me at 81 - 82C I'll go with it.
The only Zen 3 parts I've had to replace were 5800X3D. That's a problem part obviously. Out of 9 that I bought, two had to be replaced. That sucks.
Everything I said above for temps is ALL-CORE, NOT gaming. It's much easier to keep temps lower than what I said in gaming loads. If you have a problem with temps for the CPU during gaming you have a serious issue or ambient air temp is too high.
I have two of those 5800X3D based Zen 3 systems on X570S MBs and 32GB 14-14-14-34 G. Skill memory. There's no need to push to 3600 for gaming since it does little in most games if anything, and the lower latency gives a little boost in fps. It also affects the temp of the 5800X3D and 5800X more than the other parts. The other systems were sold. The CPUs I kept scored over 5600 in Cinebench R20, where the typical score in the range of 5500 - 5560.
You do sound like you know what you are doing! You never mentioned undervolting, this made a significant difference to my 5800X3D. It ran way too hot at first so undervolted by 3mV and improved the case fan ventilation a lot (3 -> 7 fans). Now at 100% performance in Cyberpunk at 1440p it never exceeds like 62 deg C. If the room warms up a bit sometimes might creep a degree or 2 higher. I think I was lucky in the silicon lottery with mine.
My problem is that I have to lower the fan speed because hotspot temps always make the fans speed high.
I dont want my fans to ramp up due to hotspot temps rather ramp up to high GPU temps.
English isnt my 1st language , hope u understand what i wanna say
I'm currently running a Tecware fusion small form factor case with only one 120mm Exhaust on the rear. While gaming at 1440p, temps for both CPU and GPU never go above 70 degrees. In my previous mid tower case, I had 5 case fans and the temps were easily over 80 everytime.
because airflow itself matters, like explained. Still, one more fan for some cool air in, would do wonders
@@AncientGameplays Unfortunately there is no space for additional fans. We don't get 80mm fans here where I live, and slim ones are even harder to find while being expensive.
Hi Fabio, great video as always! Could you do a video for this error: default performance tuning settings have been restored due to an unexpected system failure, please? I think a lot of people have this problem in these days. Many thanks.
Hey, thanks. Usually that error appear when your OC settings aren't 100% stable (even if you think they are)
@@AncientGameplays I play Battlefield 2042, since they started to updated it the problem just happened more and more often and these day's the game literally unplayable. I tried reinstall everything. tried with oc settings and without oc settings, still the same error: game close itself or the full pc restarting. Terrible!
I live in a pretty hot climate so high temps are almost a guarantee most of the time.
My 6950xt usually reach mid 80 to low 90cs when i join a really demanding game at 1440p like cyberpunk for example.i do under volt abit so it's not runnin as hot as out of the box😅
my god, you need to fix that haha
@@AncientGameplays Funnily enough, i follwed your undervolt guide and that helped it decrease the temps by alot, no longer 3 digit atleast. I could try repasting but i dont want to void my warranty.
Currently using the msi gaming x trio 6950xt in 4000d airflow with 3 intake lul
@AncientGameplays any plans on doing a video on best amd obs recording and streaming settings? these are really hard to find and i know youd smash it buddy
Already did that some months ago 💪💪
Beard, long hair, are u becoming a 2nd TechJesus like Gamernexus? Jokes aside, great video as always.
haha, I've had long hair for a long time now
I noticed the importance of case airflow in my brothers PC. He had really horrible temps with the first case he bought, so i told him to buy another one with more fan slots.
10C drop in GPU temperatures with a case swap...
Yeap, and sometimes it is even higher believe me. I've seen some messed up shit haha
Fabio, you are telling that "core GPU temperatures should be
Gpu core should be at max 20C over core IMO
@@AncientGameplays Fabio, you mean GPU hotspot must be 20° over GPU chip/core?
Hello!
For GPU temps what du you mean?
GPU Hotspot or Current Temperature?
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Core temps, Hotspot temps should be always at 20C max above core
Hey Fabio.
Cool video.
You didn't said anything regarding Nvme Heatsinks.
IDk if you tried playing a game using an overheated Nvme ... it's laggy/spiky/choppy and might even throttle it's way to BSOD
I did say case airflow could impact nvme and make things throthle as well. Any nvme that needs a heatsink sucks, or is wayyy to fast haha
@@AncientGameplays Any gen4 NVMe that's worth a crap runs fast and needs a cooler on it. You get into problems because SOME AMD based systems have the first NVMe port below the GPU, and it's ALSO the one that connects to the CPU which is the optimal to use for the OS/programs and some games as in the newer ones that have higher demands.
An NVMe in that spot should have a heatsink regardless. You either get a lack of airflow there when the GPU is doing little work, or when gaming and the GPU heats up you get warm air pushed at it.
And I'm pretty sure the same would be true for Intel based systems where that first NVMe connects to the CPU.
There are some MBs where the NVMe port is above the GPU slot. I like that config but unfortunately the MBs I like the best have the PCIe X16 slot closest to the CPU so the first NVMe is below the GPU. For instance the Gigabyte X570S Aorus Elite/Elite AX boards do EXACTLY what I expect them to do and the other PCIe slots on them all connect to the chipset. It means that the one X16 slot gets the full attention of the CPU, you can't run an X8-X8 config, but I use one GPU so I don't care.
I know there's a lack of games that use Microsoft DirectStorage right now but that will change and the work load on the NVMe during game play will increase.
Because I want certain games to have very fast disk access (newer games like 2021 and newer) AND because my system requires one disk goes under the GPU, I use the 2nd NVMe port that isn't buried under the GPU to load those games on so it's not as bad for heat. I'd use the third port that's the furthest from the GPU for games but I do dual OS and that has Linux on it. The 2nd port has a WD SN850X and yes they're fast.
How hot is yours getting? Mine never goes above 55 without the heatsink on. I have one, but I wanted to see how it ran without it, and yea it's been running fine. Silicon power UD90 4Tb tlc.
@@quintit I have 2.
A NV1 without DRAM.
A 970 Evo with DRAM.
The DRAM chips get hotter by nature. It's normal if they run at some higher temps.
The NV1 without heatsink was doing 45 Celsius. And it was throttling. There were spikes in games.
I play competitively ... so ... that's a problem for me ...
The 970 Evo was at 55 without heatsink. Also. Very bad experience. Much throttle.
With heatsink (5 bucks, cheappo stuff):
NV1 is at 37 and 970Evo is at 42. No more throttling. Everything runs smooth AF.
All temps are in gaming situations. Not full workloads, where you stress-test it by copying hundreds of GB of files to it.
The whole thing is subjective. My mom for instance doesn't have a heatsink on her SSD, but she's 65 and doesn't game. And especially not competitively. For her, it runs just fine.
For us sweaty gamers ... a Heatsink is a must ...
Hey love the work you put into your videos! I have a AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT OC Formula 16GB and I have to ask about your take on ideal junction temperature ratio towards fan speed?
Ich habe das Programm Fan Control für mich entdeckt, damit kann man alle Lüfter bis auf die GPU steuern. Und kann im Laufenden Betrieb alles so einstellen wie man möchte, dazu der kleine Tipp, die Drehzahlen für jeden Lüfter so hoch zu setzen das man diesen gerade so Hört, und dann eine Kurve die bei den Höchsten Desktop Temperaturen beginnt. Bei mir z.B.: wenn ich in UA-cam einfach lange rauf runter scrolle, da geht die Temperatur schon mal auf 65°, also beginnt die Kurve bei 68° und geht dann bei 88° in die Senkrechte 100%. Dazu kann man dann auch noch einstellen das IMMER die Höchste Temperatur Quelle genommen wird z.B.: wenn die GPU 76° hat und die CPU nur 65° werden die 76° der GPU als Basis für die Drehzahlen genommen. Somit ist in jeder Situation genug Luftbewegung im Gehäuse.
I only have only a dust filter in the front and 0 fans, my pc has no problem to draw cold air by itself.
you would have better temps with front fans though
@@AncientGameplays I have 30 idle and 50-60 in games
Undervolting a CPU works. I've got a RT 1700X with a Gammax air cooler I'd been running in power saving mode because the cooler is inadequate at stock voltage. Manually undervolted the CPU and now I can run it at high performance mode 3900MHz and I am seeing 75c and below in all games except Forespoken. Temps are mostly in the 60s now. I got Forespoken in ultra everything 1440p plus RT and I saw 76c. Turns out 1700X is STILL a gaming beast for everything even now except for CP2077 and Starfield. But if that's the case then the optimization of those two games is very poor. I like to know more about what are good mobo temps and how high is safe? Forespoken took my mobo to 60c. Room temperature was at least 85f though.
Yes, but 75C for that CPU is a lot, you should push it that much, max temps raised a bit after the Ryzen 2000 series. I would try to keep it below 70C.
Also, your case airflow might be the issues as that gammax isn't thaaaaaat bad hahaha
@@AncientGameplays TDP is supposed to be 75C. It only happens when game is in loading phase then drops back to 50s and 60s when gaming. I might have to reapply thermal paste though. This case has good air flow. I think it's a room temp issue I live in a hot and very humid climate. What do you think good mobo temps are and when should you back off? In my research the consensus seems to be 80C.
@@AncientGameplays Seems I was correct about room temp. We had a cold front come through last night. Room temp, dew point, and humidity combo are all huge it seems. I ran the exact same Forespoken scenario again with the Gammax and this time time CPU only reached 62.8 and mobo 53...wow!
Hi. Could you make a guide on how to reduce power consumption?
already made several of those like that
@@AncientGameplays Nice. I wanted to go for AMD gpu but power consumption is crazy high on them compared to nvidia.
i have build a high perfomance computer in a poor case, its a montech fighter 500, soon i wil swap it for a more open one and acrilic panel but its so hard to find here with acrilic panel idk why, i want acrilic panel to do some more ventilations
No more ventilations are needed if the case is well designed
Should I jump up and down or jump down and up?
Left right?
Clean yo intake fans.
Just dedusted my pc and the dust bunnies on the blade tips of the fans made it have no airflow at all. After cleaning just the edges of the fan blades, my gpu temps went down by 15c (in idle)(peak temps went down by 5 to 8c).
Yeah, that's a thing I need to include as well in the one coming in the next years haha
fan curve guia for amd & nvidia
i love you
Thanks haha
The gpu max temp u said inthe video (80c) is in the hotspot temp or just the "normal" one.
If he core one is at 80C, the junction should be at 95-100C max
I have custom loop, max temp on my 6900xt tuf - 45C core, 58C hot spot in Firestrike extreme, 5800x max temp - 68C in R23.
nice
LOL my case has 19 external fans, and 7 internal fans. I have two 40 mm noctua exhaust fans right behind my vertically mounted GPU to push any hot air trapped between the back of the GPU and the mobo out of the case. This was a really good addition. Everything else wasn't necessary, but looks cool! I also have a mesh front panel. My case is a 7000D from corsair. Probably the best thing corsair ever made LOL. Would recommend that case from corsair but nothing else from corsair! I legitimately love my computer after spending so much time building it and debugging it, and she looks amazing!
You surely like jet engines lol. That's extremely unnecessary and past a point where its doing anything haha, but you do you my friend :D
With HWiNFO64, what's your opinion of the GPU Hot Spot Temperature reading? I've got an undervolted 6800 XT. Typical maximum gpu temp of 67C, but maximum Hot Spot temp of 90C+!
that is a lot, means you should undervolt or change the GPU's thermal paste.
The delta should be at max 20C, in your case its over 23C. Its nor harmful, but a good thermal paste could solve the issue I guess, and like said, good airflow also helps
I don’t have any temp issues, but do u think removing the side panel would decrease temps because there is more airflow that can come in or would it just ruin the flow of well the airflow
Depends on the ambient temps ans airflow of the case. Usually helps though
Yea, I've ran without a side panel for years now. You do get lower temps, mostly for the gpu. Make sure you run a few games and see how hot each game makes your cpu before you try it, just to compare properly. (Also, I have a ceiling fan on all the time, and the case is open facing the fan, so that helps.)
Some people might comment about dust, but I keep the my house clean and I just cleaned my mobo for the first time in 4 years, and it was basically unaffected. The heat sink on my cpu cooler was dusty, but not literally clogged. Plus, it took me maybe 20 minutes to thoroughly dust everything.
have a sapphire rx 6900xt nitro+ se and when playin cod mw2 my gpu temps are 90 or 95 i rampped up thee fans and all that but yehh idk if thats are stable temps for this particular gpu. good bless abracos de bosnia
You can still do something there as stated in the video!
Abraço!
Undervolt and set a normal curve dude
i did all ready everything but idk where is the issue
@@quintit
Thanks for video! Great explanation. I have 7900xt from gigabite and unfortunatelly its loud, i already fixed gpu fan speed but it do not helped, should i try undervolt it?
Yes, do it. Gigabyte cards are usually bad, don't advise anyone getting them
Thanks! Will do. Next time buying gpu i will do better reaserch. Have a nice day.
Hey Fabio , how about GPU HotSpot Temps ? .. my 6700XT takes 72~70 on normal Temp and 90~92 Hotspot.. no Perfomance drops , and in 100% usage.
15C to 20C over core is normal, much higwhr than that isn't. You're fine with 92C hotspot
As a lot of people that watch this video have AMD - The best fix... that would also make a difference to the power bill... is amd fixing the max VRAM clock issue for multiple screens. 😥 Sadly on dual 1440p with more than 120hz its still happening
It depends on the combo you have. It also happens on some nvidia cards
Can u upload ur msi afterburner overlay plz.
Below 65 degree for Cpu & Gpu while Gaming, Below 40 degree while in Idle , Safe?
ofc, as explained int he video
My gpu heats up to 100 c hotspot temp when case is closed and 92 c max when case is open. My case is corsair spec 5. ( Two fans front )
Cpu: Ryzen 5 3600,
Cooler: corsair h60 ( Due to this
liquid cooler i can't put 2 fans 1 back and 1 top of case)
Gpu: sapphire pulse rx 6750 xt
Motherboard: msi b450m pro
vdh max
Let me know what should i do to
increase the airflow with case
closed if possible.
Should I get static pressure fan?
usually it depends on the fan model and efficiency as well
I have a loq laptop with ryzen 7 7840hs and 4060 cpu temp hits 88degree is it ok for a laptop
My ryzen 7900x can't run ddr5 6400 mhz ram😢
it can, you just can't tweak it properly or you didn't update the MB Bios
Where were you in summer bro
In the same place haha
I got the 7700x and in Battlefield sometimes reaching 95c. I managed to change something in my bios and now it wont go higher than 85c. People still saying this is way too high :(
@@eder60hz51 alright man! Will do this today! Thank you so much
That is way too high for gaming. Set a manual undervolt instead of pbo. Idk that cpu, but reset your bios, see what frequency and voltage it runs at while in cinebench (should be about 1.3V and around 4800mhz), then set that voltage/freq combination in ryzen master. Then slowly lower the voltage by tiny amounts (ryzen master defaults to 0.00625 per tick, do that), test r23 after each adjustment. Then once it crashes, just go up one more and you should have a good undervolt. Once you get the right adjustment in ryzen master, apply that in your bios.
For reference, mine is 4300@1.1125 5900x and it doesnt go over 40-45 in games or 75 in cinebench. Small air cooler.
@@quintit I am very noob with pc's is this hard to do myself?
I included every step in my comment, just reset your bios before u do it.@@harderbetterfastable
Olá Fábio, adquiri um 7800X3D, mas ainda não me decidi num AIO. É a primeira vez que vou optar por um AIO, Sei que os Arctic Freezer II, e os deepcool são bem aceites pela comunidade, alguma sugestão para além destes? Também olhei para os da mars gaming que já fizeste review, mas tenho receio que não seja suficiente para o 7800X3D. O maior problema, é que quero manter um tema branco
Viva, eu se fosse a si partiria para outra, tenho vários AIO e não consigo gostar mais deles do que dos meus aircoolers... Eu pegava um da deepcool, ou talvez da thermalright ou até o noctua d15s como eu tenho
@@AncientGameplays por acaso tive a olhar para os assassin! Tem um look muito fixe. Quando é que fazes videos no 7800x3d? 🤣
@@miquelcristino quando tiver um hahhaa
Hey Fabio, what is your opinion about XFX Swft 319 RX 6800?
I would, in terms of brands, go Sapphire, Asrock, Powercolor and then XFX
@@AncientGameplays the thing is the XFX is on sale right now for a good price and the other brands are like 100$ more than the XFX
Hello Sir, Just a question pls I have a 5950x, what do you think which is better for the game, all core tuning 4.6ghz or first cores at a higher clock rate?!
just let the CPU run free there, use curve optimizer to tweak
Thanks :D @@AncientGameplays
I managed to do a cpu tuning. the first 3 cores are 5125ghz 4,5,6, core 5ghz and the rest are between 4,8 and 5ghz. there is a problem that the d15 chromax doesn't hold up very well, so I have to build a water cooling system , I can't copy the hwinfo image here :S Thank you for the many videos you make about amd and the many tech videos!❤
The temp on my Mech 6700xt has been 90+ ever since I bought it. My 5800x3d never gets over 50
Mechs are sadly bad models for most gpus, undervolting helps as said in the video
Damn didn't know AMD Copeon GPU can be this bad. Such a hot hazard
@@neoaliens8635 It's not AMD"s fault.
It's the MSI Mech design. Cheap AF
You can try to set the fan curve higher, I'm using the tuning in the adrenaline software. My sapphire model was running the fans way too slowly as well (20% at 90°C) so when pushing it to 55% it's now at 70°C more or less whatever the temperature of the day is.
And undervolting does wonders if it's stable, for mine the driver sometimes resets but otherwise is fine
Yeah the general rule for AMD cards is buy Sapphire because just buy Sapphire... it is something I wish i would have done before i got my XFX 7900XT.
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I just replace a cooler of my miner 5600XT
Hey Ancient, why my new Ryzen 5 5600 doesn't automatically use its boost clock feature (4.4ghz) when testing Cinebench? HWInfo shows that all cores are @3.5ghz (base clock) on 100% load.
I needed OC manually it to 4.35ghz, but I want max performance, of course, for gaming. I can't manually OC it to boost clock because it somehow start eat Volts, and I get really high temps (over 100C on prime95 small test, and the pc shut down, this happened with 1.35V) with the Volts the processor needs to be running 4.4ghz - 4.5ghz (Cooler Master Evo 212, air flow). Should I try Curve Optimizer OC option?
Another question is: Do I get significant benefit to gaming if I get new motherboard that supports the SAM (Smart Access Memory) feature? My Mobo currently is Asus Prime B350-Plus (from year 2017).
Thank you alot in your effort for your answer! I subscribed btw ^^
Hey, firstly in high loads those CPUs will never be at 4.4GHz, those frequencies are for lower loads where maybe 3 or 4 cores push those values (at max), the usual would be around 4.2GHz. If it is still at base, it means your mobo isn't pushing PBO and speed steps
@@AncientGameplays Hey, thanks for your reply. That was new info for me, I didnt know that it never boost all clocks to max boost at full load. Well, im sitting stable 4.35ghz manual OC, temps are 65-70 at gaming and 83-84 full load when running cinebench. I think im going with this settings for now.
Is it even possible manually OC over lets say 4.5ghz this cpu? Mine start eat volts @4.4ghz and I dont want put higher than 1.35V ultimate maximum.
Ser how to fix high laptop temps
the same as explained, change thermal paste, clean the dust, etc.
those advised CPU temps are..... very positive. 65 degree? Man, you obviously didint had Ryzen 5800X ;)
I said up to 75C degress though. 65C under gaming is normal even for the 5800X. I guess you just need (listen explained in this video) a better case / better cooler.
I have the 5600X, 5800X3D, 7600X, 7700X, all of them run under 75C when gaming
@@AncientGameplays Well, my 5800X is around 70-75 degree while gaming. I got best possible airflow - O11 Air mini, dual 140 on front, dual 120 on top, 120mm on back, dual 120 on bottom. CPU cooler was Noctua NHD15 and now Scythe Fuma 2. Its best you can get out of this coolers on 5800X, and its also limited by PPT, TDC and EDC manual values.
@@vlad_8011 That's a quite high, imo. Turn off PBO/PBO2 and disable CPPC Pref. Cores in BIOS.
what about jumc temps is 6000 series ? is it normal to reach late 90s and 100 on high end gpu's like 6800xt?
100 degrees on junction (i hope) maybe are high. 90 are normal. My 6700 with default settings reaches 90 degrees. Like me, you should do undervolting, my opinion.
normal? No. But it may happen in lower end models, due to poor cooling ability, the lack of pressure and so on... usually a change in thermal paste helps
@@AncientGameplays i have a sapphire pulse (2 fans) 6700, with uv i have max 90 degrees on hotspot, in summer max 92'..without uv everyone reach 90 and over degrees with 6xxx series. For normal, i said this
my card is from sapphire (Pulse), will the arctic MX-4 Do the job or it is a must to buy a high end paste like thermal grizzly kryonaut?@@AncientGameplays
I have a i9 9900k and playing battlefield 2042 it goes to 100 degrees 😂 but never throttles
because that CPU usually throttles at 105c... you're damaging the CPU though, you need to look into that
i use stock amd cooler, and i was not on a budget lol.. i'm just a cheap ass, but it works fine. also i don't live in a hot country like Portugal lol
What cpu? My brother tried using the stock cooler from his old cpu on a 5800x and just let it casually sit at 95 constantly. Had to get him an actual cooler lol
@@quintit well there is a reason some come with a cooler and some don't. Pretty optimistic to think the old stock cooler can cool an 5800x.
yea lol he doesnt know much abt consumer pc parts@@NulJern
@@quintit he is not alone. he just lucky he got a brother that knows.
Thank you Jesus
You're welcome xD
Due to the temperature issue, is it better to have the chassis open or closed ?
Try it, but for me open has always let it run cooler. Especially with most gpus these days not spitting air out the back, but instead also out the side.
Noise is a factor.
@@quintit You are right that leaving the chassis open makes the PC run cooler, but apart from the noise factor, as you say, it also gets more dust in, so there is no one without the other 😅
Eh, ive had mine off for 4 years, and I just cleaned my entire pc for the first time in a few years and it was pretty much unscathed. It's not as bad as people say.@@mayito-cuba-tv1534
usually the open chassis will lead to better temps as airflow isn't optimal 90% of times
@@AncientGameplays The current configuration of my chassis is 3 fans entering air and 3 extracting
My xfx rx6950xt around 70c temp when I play cod MW2 and fan curv 70% is that problem?
have you watched the part where I talk about temperatures?
@@AncientGameplays yes I watched
then you know you're fine@@AbdoKadosa
70% is a lot of fan, what rpm? That sounds like it's loud af
Those cards run decently warm.
should i go with 4070 are rtx 3080ti both of them are same price
Humm, the 4070 consumes a lot less power
@@AncientGameplays worth it to pay 250 dollar more and get the 4070ti ?
@@fffffffffff999 850 bucks for a 12GB card which will be playing at low settings in 2 years, good deal!
Basically
hahahah
@@AncientGameplays 😂❤
are there no amd ryzen master drivers for 7 7700x?? cant find any on amd website
Why do you need ryzen master exactly?
@@AncientGameplays nevermind ryzen works but when i oc ramm and i reset it goes blackscren when i hold power booton and go to bios its automaticly disabled do u think id i drop from 6400 ddr5 to 6000ddr5 is is big diference or no
Should I buy msi mobo or gigabyte mobo cause the issues with ryzen 70003d
What issues? have both Asrock and MSI here with no issues
@AncientGameplays ok thank I was gonna buy gigabyte mobo so the issue only with gigabyte mobo and asus mobo right ??
@@AncientGameplays the issue with bios that the ryzen 7000x3d explode cause of high voltage
Any mobo is good nowadays. Except gigabyte.
@@korosoid why ??
Why getting more air in causes less dust than more air out? Doesn't make sense. This is a myth the rgb="gaming pc" boys believe. The truth is you need to have proper big filtered intake so it stop crud getting in and you don't even need fans blowing air in cause the exhaust fans draw the air from the front to blow it out the back already, so front fans is just extra noise.
I've got an msi 7900xtx gaming trio classic, card would be around 59/65 C and have an hotspot of 84 up to 94, if i set the power limit up to +8% It tends to go above 95 in the hotspot, should I rma?
That hotspot delta is definitely on the hot side. Did your gpu come with a support bracket ? This seems like an issue of uneven contact caused by sagging.
I have 7900 XTX on 100% load my temps are like that with +10% PL (in a small mini ITX build).
As far as I know and could find... If Hotspot is around 20 degrees over gpu temp is normal. Hotspot is max temp registered over multiple sensors and it should be OK under 100 but not really sure about this 😅. I'm confident as silicon critical temp seems to be 125 and the GPU and CPU all have built in controls to prevent damage (throttling)
My first 7900XT did this (60 reg temp 100-110c hotspot) even with a support for sagging after a few months, i repasted and padded the torn pads and it only helped for around 2 months.
I ended up getting a RMA and now my delta at max wattage is around 10-15c at 350w. No idea if it will stay that good but it does seem like some coolers were made....poorly lets say.
@@Azureskies01 Messing with thermal pads is almost never a good idea. They often end up being the wrong size or thickness and making temps worse. If you think of resorting to changing pads you might as well start the rma process early.
@@Nein99x I was in contact with XFX and got the size and thermal conductivity from them so I didn't have any reservations about changing the pads. Torn pads are very likely to mess with the thermals of whatever they were contacting as well.
I will agree though, if you don't have torn pads just leave them be. Lot less of a headache that way.
Ohhh I can see the Lord, Jesus is appeared again! 😂
hahaha
@@AncientGameplays ✌🏻❤️
Dont listen to Fabio, just buy a Fractal torrent Kappa
so...don't listen to me be doing exactly what I'm saying? Okay I guess
Today AMD announced they drop the driver support for Vega and Polaris which came out back in 2017 while Nvidia still supports older GPU dating back to 2014. AMD Copeon Terrible Group continue to advance to drop the ball unsurprisingly. All I can say is: RIP AMD🎉
still close to 7 years support and will still get critical updates.
Bro is literally lying for brand loyalty 😂😂
Nvidea stopped game ready support for 700 series back in 2021 bro, thats 9 years, please, direct me to your source that states nvidea is still making game ready drivers for cards from 2014 😂😂
Switch to Nvidia GPUs to avoid inefficient AMD Copeon ones ofc. RIP AMD🎉
Cool story bro