JESUS Can't Override UNBELIEF According to Steven Furtick -- Justin Peters
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If God was unable to overcome unbelief, not a single person would be saved. Not one.
You preachin right!
❤
The brother Peter's is speaking of somewhere somehow ,, went wrong. I mean come on
VERILY
Amen!
Pray for Steven Furtick and the many he is and has led astray.
Jesus said to him, “If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.”
24 Immediately the father of the child cried out and said with tears, “Lord, I believe; help my UNBELIEF”
Mark 9:23-24
Praying for an individual who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit is not possible.
He’s obviously a con. He serves his ego.
@@seekfirstthekingdom4388I stopped watching him bc of this. I through maybe it was my own issues that I felt this way. And maybe it was bc I can have an ego at times. But I didn’t need to be watching someone who was okay with that way of living. Especially if you’re a preacher to the masses
JUSTIN PETERS IS A CONDEMNED LIAR
Justin Peters is a lying minister for the devil since his wicked soul is twisting verses of scripture to justify why he has cerebral palsy. He has stated that his disability is from the fall and it is the greatest gift that God gave him and that certainly is a lie since there are no scriptures that ever relate that afflictions are a gift from God or from living in a fallen world. If afflictions are a gift from God then why didn’t Jesus bless people with afflictions instead of healing them? Well the reason why is because every sickness or disability is a curse from God and all you need to do is read Deuteronomy 28:58-61 to prove as much.
“If you do not carefully observe all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, THE Lord YOUR GOD, then the Lord will bring upon you and your descendants extraordinary plagues-great and prolonged plagues-and serious and prolonged sicknesses. Moreover He will bring back on you all the diseases of Egypt, of which you were afraid, and they shall cling to you. ALSO EVERY SICKNESS AND EVERY PLAGUE, WHICH IS NOT WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK OF THE LAW, will the Lord bring upon you until you are destroyed.”
Deuteronomy 28:58-61 NKJV
Scripture relates how God does not lie, He shows no partiality or favoritism and He never changes but yet the majority of believers overlook what God related to us about sickness and plagues in Deuteronomy 28. Realize that this evil world is ruled by the devil and God promised to protect us from the devil’s afflictions if we chose to obey and follow His commands and live a righteous life. So any lost soul that believes in the nonsense that Justin Peters is relating is certainly proving how they are completely ignorant and deceived and they clearly possess very little scripture knowledge since God has never used anyone who has a disability as His messenger. Why? Because anyone who possesses a sickness or a disability is definitely a sinner who is disobeying God and His commands and that person clearly has no idea what scripture is even relating.
Now this wicked man has stated that you can only hear God by reading scripture and that you cannot actually hear the voice of God and that is another lie. He likes to claim that if you desire to have God speak to you audibly then read the Bible out loud and with that statement he clearly proves that he does not possess the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.
“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.”
John 10:27 NKJV
This wicked man has also stated that the miraculous gifts of the Spirit have ceased with the apostles which would mean that Jesus lied as well.
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.”
John 14:12-14 NKJV
This wicked man has even stated that he does not believe that Matthias was an apostle and that the other apostles “jumped the gun” as he so claims.
“And they prayed and said, “You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen to take part in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.” And they cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And he was numbered with the eleven apostles.”
Acts 1:24-26 NKJV
This wicked man has stated in his videos that God did not promise healing to everyone and that He chooses who He desires to heal. Well if that was true then God would be a sinner and a liar since scripture relates that showing partiality is a sin.
”For there is no partiality with God.“
Romans 2:11 NKJV
”If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors.“
James 2:8-9 NKJV
Lastly, this wicked man has stated that just because someone teaches something that is false does not make that person a false teacher. Oh really, then what does it make them then?
“These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity-for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.”
2 Peter 2:17-19 NIV
There are over 2000 different bible versions that all have different translations, words and different meanings and a lot of these bible versions are leading many souls astray. If you watch Justin Peter’s visit to Charis Bible College video you will see him reference the NASB1995 version of Exodus 4:11-12 to justify his cerebral palsy since he is insinuating that God is the one who is giving people sickness and disabilities.
“The LORD said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the LORD?”
Exodus 4:11 NASB1995
So if you read this version of the Bible, yes it does state that God makes human beings blind, deaf or mute. But know I want to give you another Bible version and show you how it reads:
“So the LORD said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I, the LORD?
Exodus 4:11 NKJV
When you read this version it is not stating that God made them mute, deaf or blind but that God made the individual, whether they were someone who was deaf, mute or blind. God is not saying that He inflicted the disability on them. God loves you and He wants you to be healthy for He is the God who heals you. So why would a loving God who loves you and heals you desire to make you sick?
Sin and sickness are strictly of the devil and sickness reveals that we are disobeying God and living in sin. God made it very clear that He would remove sickness and disease from anyone who did not sin and who would obey what He commanded in scripture. This is why the devil can no longer put his afflictions on anyone who is truly born of God because they are now someone who can no longer sin since they are now being guided by God’s Holy Spirit.
“And said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.”
Exodus 15:26 NKJV
“So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you. No one shall suffer miscarriage or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days.”
Exodus 23:25-26 NKJV
“And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.”
Deuteronomy 7:15 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
“HE WHO SINS IS OF THE DEVIL, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. WHOEVER HAS BEEN BORN OF GOD DOES NOT SIN, for His seed remains in him; AND HE CANNOT SIN, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:8-9 NKJV
So scripture clearly relates that anyone who sins belongs to the devil and whoever is born of God does not sin and cannot sin. There are no scriptures that ever relate that a sinner belongs to God or that a sinner is a child of God! There are no scriptures that ever relate that a believer will always sin or that a believer can never stop sinning! There are no scriptures that ever relate that sickness would be a normal part of this life or that a Christian will possess sickness in their life! You can look all that you like but you certainly will not find any such scripture to back up those lies. God commanded us to live a Holy and righteous life and this can only be achieved by being someone who overcomes their sins.
Psalm 107:17. “Fools, because of their transgression, And because of their iniquities, were afflicted.”
Know what this means? First transgression, it means an act that goes against a rule, a law or a code of conduct. Next iniquity, it means a wicked act or thing, sin. Finally, affliction, it means something that causes persistent pain or suffering. Translated it is saying that you are a fool if you do not follow God’s laws and commands and you go and sin because you will then have pain, suffering and sickness.
Believers who are suffering with a sickness, a disease or a disability certainly are not comprehending what scripture is relating and this is why they have allowed sin and the devil to destroy their lives. They overlooked that Jesus is alive and He commanded us to follow Him, so instead of following Jesus through His Holy Spirit they have chosen to follow mere mortal preachers and religions instead. This is why Justin Peters is nothing more than a false preacher who is a condemned liar and he is leading people astray with his false and misguided interpretations of scripture in order to justify why his wicked soul possesses cerebral palsy.
They are BOLD in deception. That is terrifying.
I say that all the time Sis!
@@rochelleb9843sounds like the heretic Jamal Bryant who said Jesus was out of order for 85% of His life🤦🏾 The foolery is unbelievable
I love Brother Justin Peters and his Ministry! I thank God everyday for my God given Grace of discernment!
JUSTIN PETERS IS A CONDEMNED LIAR
Justin Peters is a lying minister for the devil since his wicked soul is twisting verses of scripture to justify why he has cerebral palsy. He has stated that his disability is from the fall and it is the greatest gift that God gave him and that certainly is a lie since there are no scriptures that ever relate that afflictions are a gift from God or from living in a fallen world. If afflictions are a gift from God then why didn’t Jesus bless people with afflictions instead of healing them? Well the reason why is because every sickness or disability is a curse from God and all you need to do is read Deuteronomy 28:58-61 to prove as much.
“If you do not carefully observe all the words of this law that are written in this book, that you may fear this glorious and awesome name, THE Lord YOUR GOD, then the Lord will bring upon you and your descendants extraordinary plagues-great and prolonged plagues-and serious and prolonged sicknesses. Moreover He will bring back on you all the diseases of Egypt, of which you were afraid, and they shall cling to you. ALSO EVERY SICKNESS AND EVERY PLAGUE, WHICH IS NOT WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK OF THE LAW, will the Lord bring upon you until you are destroyed.”
Deuteronomy 28:58-61 NKJV
Scripture relates how God does not lie, He shows no partiality or favoritism and He never changes but yet the majority of believers overlook what God related to us about sickness and plagues in Deuteronomy 28. Realize that this evil world is ruled by the devil and God promised to protect us from the devil’s afflictions if we chose to obey and follow His commands and live a righteous life. So any lost soul that believes in the nonsense that Justin Peters is relating is certainly proving how they are completely ignorant and deceived and they clearly possess very little scripture knowledge since God has never used anyone who has a disability as His messenger. Why? Because anyone who possesses a sickness or a disability is definitely a sinner who is disobeying God and His commands and that person clearly has no idea what scripture is even relating.
Now this wicked man has stated that you can only hear God by reading scripture and that you cannot actually hear the voice of God and that is another lie. He likes to claim that if you desire to have God speak to you audibly then read the Bible out loud and with that statement he clearly proves that he does not possess the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.
“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.”
John 10:27 NKJV
This wicked man has also stated that the miraculous gifts of the Spirit have ceased with the apostles which would mean that Jesus lied as well.
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you ask anything in My name, I will do it.”
John 14:12-14 NKJV
This wicked man has even stated that he does not believe that Matthias was an apostle and that the other apostles “jumped the gun” as he so claims.
“And they prayed and said, “You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen to take part in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.” And they cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And he was numbered with the eleven apostles.”
Acts 1:24-26 NKJV
This wicked man has stated in his videos that God did not promise healing to everyone and that He chooses who He desires to heal. Well if that was true then God would be a sinner and a liar since scripture relates that showing partiality is a sin.
”For there is no partiality with God.“
Romans 2:11 NKJV
”If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors.“
James 2:8-9 NKJV
Lastly, this wicked man has stated that just because someone teaches something that is false does not make that person a false teacher. Oh really, then what does it make them then?
“These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity-for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.”
2 Peter 2:17-19 NIV
There are over 2000 different bible versions that all have different translations, words and different meanings and a lot of these bible versions are leading many souls astray. If you watch Justin Peter’s visit to Charis Bible College video you will see him reference the NASB1995 version of Exodus 4:11-12 to justify his cerebral palsy since he is insinuating that God is the one who is giving people sickness and disabilities.
“The LORD said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the LORD?”
Exodus 4:11 NASB1995
So if you read this version of the Bible, yes it does state that God makes human beings blind, deaf or mute. But know I want to give you another Bible version and show you how it reads:
“So the LORD said to him, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes the mute, the deaf, the seeing, or the blind? Have not I, the LORD?
Exodus 4:11 NKJV
When you read this version it is not stating that God made them mute, deaf or blind but that God made the individual, whether they were someone who was deaf, mute or blind. God is not saying that He inflicted the disability on them. God loves you and He wants you to be healthy for He is the God who heals you. So why would a loving God who loves you and heals you desire to make you sick?
Sin and sickness are strictly of the devil and sickness reveals that we are disobeying God and living in sin. God made it very clear that He would remove sickness and disease from anyone who did not sin and who would obey what He commanded in scripture. This is why the devil can no longer put his afflictions on anyone who is truly born of God because they are now someone who can no longer sin since they are now being guided by God’s Holy Spirit.
“And said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.”
Exodus 15:26 NKJV
“So you shall serve the LORD your God, and He will bless your bread and your water. And I will take sickness away from the midst of you. No one shall suffer miscarriage or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days.”
Exodus 23:25-26 NKJV
“And the LORD will take away from you all sickness, and will afflict you with none of the terrible diseases of Egypt which you have known, but will lay them on all those who hate you.”
Deuteronomy 7:15 NKJV
“We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.”
I John 5:18 NKJV
“HE WHO SINS IS OF THE DEVIL, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil. WHOEVER HAS BEEN BORN OF GOD DOES NOT SIN, for His seed remains in him; AND HE CANNOT SIN, because he has been born of God.”
I John 3:8-9 NKJV
So scripture clearly relates that anyone who sins belongs to the devil and whoever is born of God does not sin and cannot sin. There are no scriptures that ever relate that a sinner belongs to God or that a sinner is a child of God! There are no scriptures that ever relate that a believer will always sin or that a believer can never stop sinning! There are no scriptures that ever relate that sickness would be a normal part of this life or that a Christian will possess sickness in their life! You can look all that you like but you certainly will not find any such scripture to back up those lies. God commanded us to live a Holy and righteous life and this can only be achieved by being someone who overcomes their sins.
Psalm 107:17. “Fools, because of their transgression, And because of their iniquities, were afflicted.”
Know what this means? First transgression, it means an act that goes against a rule, a law or a code of conduct. Next iniquity, it means a wicked act or thing, sin. Finally, affliction, it means something that causes persistent pain or suffering. Translated it is saying that you are a fool if you do not follow God’s laws and commands and you go and sin because you will then have pain, suffering and sickness.
Believers who are suffering with a sickness, a disease or a disability certainly are not comprehending what scripture is relating and this is why they have allowed sin and the devil to destroy their lives. They overlooked that Jesus is alive and He commanded us to follow Him, so instead of following Jesus through His Holy Spirit they have chosen to follow mere mortal preachers and religions instead. This is why Justin Peters is nothing more than a false preacher who is a condemned liar and he is leading people astray with his false and misguided interpretations of scripture in order to justify why his wicked soul possesses cerebral palsy.
"Immediately the boy’s father exclaimed, “I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!” Mk. 9:24
1. Nobody goes to heaven without first believing. Jesus cant make anyone do that.
2. Jesus couldnt perform miracles in his own hometown because of their unbelief.
Clearly there are circumstances when faith does, and does not make a difference.
@baronrichmond5667 John 6:44 - no one can come to me unless the Father draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. Ephesians 2:4-8 states that we are saved by God alone being rich in mercy and not by our own works. Salvation is done by God and God alone.
The only way we can believe is if Jesus makes us and draws us to do so. We can't do so in and of ourselves due to our total depravity and being spiritually dead in our sins. Ephesians 2:1-3. If we believed without Jesus making us or drawing us unto Himself then it means that there was something we did to relieve salvation which contradicts scripture and is therfore false and heretical
I've only watched Steven Furtick a couple of times. He reminded me of someone I'd seen before, but I couldn't remember who. It came to me when I was watching a rerun of "The Flip Wilson Show". Does anyone else remember "Reverend Leroy", and "The Church of What's Happening Now"?
I agree with you.. when I heard him preached live in Singapore July 2018, he sounded like he doesn’t reads nor studies his bible in entirety. Fired up service, but watered down content.
My request is - keep praying for him, his family & church. No one is beyond saving & sanctifying. 🙏🏻 be blessed..
Oh, the Lord's hand is not short❤
Doesnt matter, you have to make the decision to take His hand. God will not force you to
I don’t understand: Steven literally says in this clip that Jesus was able to and yet Justin is taking him out of context, as if Steven was saying that Jesus does not have the power to do something. I was expecting to click on a clip and hear some type of argument regarding Arminianism versus Calvinism. This clip is so nitpicky (and actually, Justin is saying many of the same things that Steven says, in other parts of other sermons), very petty, and it (along with many of the comments here) is exactly the kind of division that Jesus speaks against because it does not lead to helping those in the world believe.
Without ME, you cannot. But Without you, I will not.
You have to have faith and believe. That is why we are called believers
I wonder what Furtick thinks about Saul's conversion to Paul...
Jesus Christ is King
That was a unique case as he went on to write lots of NT.
I'm not a fan of first person but if he was referring to unbelief referring to free will John 3:16 he was right. Jesus asked people when it was possible what they wanted him to do for them even if it seemed obvious. I have not seen all of first guys video so I don't know the context he was referring to. John 6:67-68 God Bless 💕✝
Amen
Glory to God
Jesus is Lord
Jesus appeared, and Saul believed. If Saul didn't believe, do you believe that he would have completed his missionary journeys or written his letters?
Without faith, it is impossible to please God.
I think we should be desiring faith from God and asking forgiveness from the lack of faith.
Without faith it's impossible to please God.
Using a man who has made a career out of criticizing others is unwise. Especially one who is far worse than those he deems "false teachers". Anyone claiming Christ's sheep can no longer hear His voice, no longer hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches, no longer give wisdom liberally without upbraiding, no longer tell believers brought before magistrates what to say (the Lord did say "do not prepare" for this very reason, etc. is a false teacher himself. Especially one who uses the "gospel of criticism" for gain (masked as the "gospel of discernment"!).
I know, just look at Phillipians. Paul writes that he celebrates even false teachers and those that don't have pure morals because theyre still building the body of christ. People just like to judge others. I hope they know that the Word also says that they'll be judged by the way they judge others. Good luck to them!
@@baronrichmond5667 Superb observation, Baron (one I hadn't thought of in relation to what I was feeling). Being gracious like Jesus Is I believe means we really need to "cut people slack" (including ourselves). My theology has evolved greatly over the decades (and still evolving as the Holy Spirit is still teaching as long as I'm still hungering and thirsting after righteousness, which is both behavior and understanding "Matthew 5:6"). There are things I strongly believed (and taught!) that I have learned were wrong. I think that's one of the reasons why Paul instructed in 1 Thessalonians 5:21 to "prove all things and hold fast to that which is good". No teacher has it "all right". Grace and peace unto you. Praise the Lord!
I'd say that is news to Paul.
Amen
Paul still had to choose to believe.
@@Holden-uf7 Yes, a predestined choice. Pharoah was predestined to have his heart harden. Who saw more wonders of God and still did not choose God.
@@cyntreciaholden7779 romans 9 does not teach what you think it teaches. The word hardened if translated into the original Hebrew has 4 different Hebrew words that “hardened” could mean. Each passage dictates which one of the 4 Hebrew words would be used in place of the word “ hardened”. In romans 9 the hebrew word that hardened would be translated into is “kabed” which means “heavy” like weight. We know this because if you read Exodus 17:12 moses arms become HEAVY (kabed) during the battle and are physically held up by aaron and Hur. This also explains why moses chose to use “kabed” to describe the condition of pharaohs heart. Moses grew up in Egypt and completely understood the culture and their ways. When he describes the condition of pharaohs heart he is describing it as physically heavy, not “ heavy in the mental sense. The reasons this matters is because in egypt they had what is known as the book of the dead. This book explained (according to Egyptian culture) that when a person died there heart was weighed against the weight of a feather. If your heart was heavier than the feather you went to hell. If lighter then you went to heaven.
It is not that He “can’t”, but He won’t….2 Timothy 2:12. “Choose you This Day…”
Oh he definitely will, and he does. We are made alive together with christ. We are woo'd inexorably to him. And some are willfully left in their sin. This is Romans 9.
I find it so sad when Christians criticise other Christians. If we were able to sit down with some of our brother and sisters in the faith, and ask them what they really ment to say, we would find out that for the majority, they are on the same page. Pray for these people that you disagre with, we all need the mercy and grace of God.
I agree
Your suppose to call these false.teachers out and criticize them. They know what they are saying they do it on purpose in order to be confusing. Thats their goal. Satan confuses people God isnt the author or confusion. Wake up people
I long since stopped listening to Steven Furtick, and I see the danger in his statement. However, there is a difference between OVERRIDING and OVERCOMING. God does not OVERRIDE unbelief. It is not necessary for Him to, He's God. Yahweh OVERCOMES unbelief by the power of His Spirit at work in us. If He simply OVERRODE unbelief there would be no change in our hearts.
Yes, Jesus has the power to perform regardless of unbelief because our unbelief does not bar His power. Our unbelief does not handicap the power of God. However, Yeshua performing in the midst of unbelief does not override the unbelief in that person, meaning it does not change their heart. 🤷🏾♀️ The old and new testament are full of the examples and proof of that.
We make an intellectual CHOICE, to have faith and believe. If Yahweh just "overrode" unbelief that would be taking away freewill and accountability. Yahweh DRAWS. Then, AFTER He draws, the person can come. The person can't come unless they're drawn. If they're not drawn, they're not coming, and even if they DO come, they won't stay! We see that w/ all the disciples that turned away from Yeshua- including Judas who walked closely with Him among the 12.
exactly right, it would "overide" free will then. The whole purpose of life is for the human race to make a choice between God or Satan. simple!
“… but with God all things are possible.” (Matthew 19:26).
I think what steven means here is, Jesus cannot force you to believe in Him. The Lord gives opportunities for belief, but you must choose.
EXATLY!!!! Yes exactly that is what Jesus is saying!
“Help my unbelief.”
Thats still choosing Jesus
I'm not a fan of first person but if he was referring to unbelief referring to free will John 3:16 he was right. I have not seen all of first guys message so I don't know the context he was referring to so I'm going to choose to believe the best. 1 Corinthians 13:7 John 13:35 Ephesians 4 1-2 God Bless 💕✝
Furtick needs Jesus
NGL, I was laughing at the goofy subtitles.
But thank you for the video. Very informative!!!
Christ doesn't force anyone to repent and go to heaven. He doesn't force anyone to go to hell either.
People choose to accept or reject Christ.
Matthew 10:32-33
I took this video to be about Jesus's ability to save someone even though they don't believe in him. I think John 3:16 is pretty clear on this.
He can and will cause people's belief in Him. That's the only way people are saved. He overcomes people's disbelief on a regular basis. I daresay it's his primary activity.
Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord
God doesn’t make us believe. He said some do not have ears to hear.
Exactly. God doesnt go against our free will.
What is Stephen Furtick saying???? That is incredibly scary.
Here is a scripture for you. (In the event you use them) Mat 13:58 And he (Jesus) did not do many mighty works there, because of their unbelief. (ESV). Jesus could do no mighty work because of unbelief.
Right. It's not the God can't override anyone's unbelief; it's that He chooses not to.
Of course He can! I am living proof!
“Those who have ears to hear, let them hear”
Because of your free will, you still had the opportunity to choose Him or reject Him even more
Hebrews 10:26-27 KJV
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Mark 13:35 KJV
Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
God can not go against your free will. If someone knows about God, believes in God, but never changes. Its because that person rejects God and rejects the holy spirit. Which means they really do not believe, they are only saying they believe to control you who does truly believe.
CHAPTER 9; OF FREE WILL
Paragraph 1. God has endued the will of man with that natural liberty and power of acting upon choice, that it is neither forced, nor by any necessity of nature determined to do good or evil.1
1 Matt. 17:12; James 1:14; Deut. 30:19
Paragraph 2. Man, in his state of innocency, had freedom and power to will and to do that which was good and well-pleasing to God,2 but yet was unstable, so that he might fall from it.3
2 Eccles. 7:29
3 Gen. 3:6
Paragraph 3. Man, by his fall into a state of sin, has wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation;4 so as a natural man, being altogether averse from that good, and dead in sin,5 is not able by his own strength to convert himself, or to prepare himself thereunto.6
4 Rom. 5:6, 8:7
5 Eph. 2:1,5
6 Titus 3:3-5; John 6:44
Paragraph 4. When God converts a sinner, and translates him into the state of grace, He frees him from his natural bondage under sin,7 and by His grace alone enables him freely to will and to do that which is spiritually good;8 yet so as that by reason of his remaining corruptions, he does not perfectly, nor only will, that which is good, but does also will that which is evil.9
7 Col. 1:13; John 8:36
8 Phil. 2:13
9 Rom. 7:15,18,19,21,23
Paragraph 5. This will of man is made perfectly and immutably free to good alone in
the state of glory only.10
10 Eph. 4:13
2nd London Baptist Confession of Faith of 1689, n.d.
At 0:20, Steven actually says Jesus "was able to override their unbelief"... but he couldn't do it in Nazareth. Not to defend Steven, but maybe it's just a matter of delivery.
Yeah Justin took Steven out of context and misrepresented his position. It’s likely that Steven would even agree with Justin on this specific issue.
Paul would like to have a word with you steven.
God overrides my unbelief all the time
I’m not a Furtick fan at all, BUT I think his point is that Jesus will not force someone to believe (place their trust) in Him. So the thought is that Jesus cannot force us to trust in Him because that would essentially go against the idea of free will.
Does anyone else see it of take Firticks comments this way?
Steve F is worthless...recommend MacArthur. Divine Election is solid doctrine, read Romans 9, Romans 11, Ephesians 1...it "does not depend on man's desire or will"
Romans 9 and 11, Ephesians 1...avoid Steve F! Listen to John MacArthur
Yes, but he happens to be wrong about this.
There's plenty God cannot do. But changing hearts is not one of them. He does it all the time.
I could see it that way too. I think he means that we have to accept Christ in our lives.
@nadida165 he's as fake as a 3 dollar bill and his Tony Robbins pump up "preaching" is nauseating. Have nothing to do with false teachers, especially those who live like kings
As an Italian brother, i applaude rhe will to not eat a pineapple pizza and the courage to admit it is an abomination😂
Mark 6:4Then Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown, among his relatives, and in his own household is a prophet without honor.” 5So He COULD NOT perform any miracles there, except to lay His hands on a few of the sick and heal them. 6And He was amazed at their unbelief.
Psalm 78:41 Yea, they turned back and tested God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
Believe and receive or doubt and do without. It's a biblical principle. Might not be your religious tradition but it's the word.
Explain Saul < Paul
Even when Jesus revealed Himself to Paul in one of the most impactful ways, Paul still had the free will to choose Him or reject Him even more.
Now it would be pretty difficult to reject Jesus even after Pauls experience, but people still do that now days.
@Holden-uf7 Respectfully when was the last instance "nowadays " that someone received a vision of the ascended Christ and went blind.
Jesus told Paul he was "kicking agai st thebpgricks" .Even while he was murdering believersThe Lord was drawing him to Himsrlf. It is never a question of dismissing human will as you suggest but the Lord draws us to Himself because we CANNOT come
otherwise.
Actually, many Muslims and Jews are converting after claiming to have had a vision from the Lord himself! The lord respects devotion even if that devotion is misplaced, as it was with Saul when he appeared in person to undue Satan's deception.
@dustinpowell6297 It is not misplaced devotion (Cain,King Saul,Pharisees)that God responds to.
We have NONE (misplaced or otherwise) in and of ourselves.
In our unbelief we would never admit it.
It is our need. Our great gaping need .
But again to our mutual point the Lord drew the Muslims and Jews you are referring to. Bless the Lord! Where would any us be if not for the sweet courtship of our Lord❤.
Yeah, I could have worded that better. My point was that Saul (soon to be Paul) was treated differently than the other Pharisees because his persecution of Christians was due to ignorance and not a desire for self elevation. The Lord was doing what he always does, bruising the head of the serpent, while giving us another chance. He is truely the King of Righteousness and Prince of Peace! @@Sheba4474
Leaving Furtick out of it (too sensational for me), no one in scripture goes "POOF" & is irresistibly regenerated/coerced/forced to receive Jesus.
God doesn’t force people to believe. That’s Stevens point and he’s 100% correct on that point.
Its not the He cant, He just wont. This is the one area where reformist theology does not align with Scripture or the character of God, election. Man is involved in his salvation because "we" must believe through reason and understanding. EVERY example of salvation in Scripture, EVERY encounter that led to repentance came from people hearing and deciding what to believe.
God can do anything, but He cannot force someone to believe. That would violate your free will.
So what do you suppose happened to Saul of Tarsus in Acts 9?
It's not that He can't, it's that He won't. To "override" unbelief would mean that He would take away free will. He wants us to willingly trust Him and not Him forcing His will on us.
I feel the context was misunderstood by Justin Peters.
God gave us freewill. We have that choice to make, whether we want to believe or not. This was the original context of what Steven Furtick was preaching as I remember that sermon.
The monetgistic power of God for salvation is DIFFERENT from what Jesus experienced on earth when the Gospels said that he could only heal a few people in the town because of their unbelief. For US, in this side of eternity, all we can know is that unbelief is the opposite of faith and that God acts among us according to our faith-apart from the monergistic initiatives of God by His secret counsel, His own discretion, and His providence towards men.
In the book of James it even says that a double minded man expect not to receive anything from the Lord. Without faith it is impossible to please God.
So yes, Furtick is correct. God will not override your unbelief. When we chose to listen to His Spirit and believe then we will see the miracles of God.
If you are going to add videos of other people in your video, you need to reference the video. Taking "snipets" out and then not linking the full video for us can be perceived as being a little deceptive. I don't know either of these gentlemen, but I would like a link to watch it the whole video in context. It's just more honest to provide the links.
Hope is believing right ? If you have no hope, you have no faith, and you have no love right ? So basically unbelief does what ? Timothy said it was his ignorance in unbelief that God showed mercy. He said “override” , it must come from YOU. Please family let us correct one and another in LOVE. Not to win disciples.
Mark 9:23-24
My goodness 🤦🏾♂️
Sometimes Jesus can't work when there's unbelief, but other times he can. There are many passages in the bible that provide proof for both.
Oh wise master, dictate to us your will
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I think the point SF is trying to get across is that God cannot override unbelief because it is a choice that we make of our own free will. However, he chose wrong verses to support his assertion. Mark 6 does not support his proposition at all. God gave us free will. He CANNOT and DOES NOT interfere with that. See Mark 8:34 (Jesus gives the people the choice to follow him or not); Joshua 24:15 (the people can choose what God's to follow); Revelation 3:20 (Jesus giving the person the choice to open the door to Him). It is, just like his inability to lie, a characteristic of His being. He will come find you, lead you, guide you through the Holy Spirit, but he CANNOT choose for you or override your free will. The best example I can think of is in Romans 1:21-31
Maybe I’m wrong, but the only content I see from Peters is critiquing preachers and doesn’t give instruction. It seems he is known for what he is against, rather than what he is for. Maybe his other content is better, but haven’t seen it
The gospel is that Jesus Christ (The Eternally Existing Son of God, God The Son, Savior, Christ) promises eternal life ONCE you believe he died for your sins, was buried, rose again the 3rd day! Once Saved Always Saved!
Read. Your. Bible.
It is reported that Furtick is a oneness modalist…. That’s heresy
Steve is right, prime example Pharisees and Sadducess, and the rest of the people who are not in heaven. Pharoah saw all the signs of God, let the children of Isreal go and with a hard heart still tried to kill them. It's called predestination.
I cannot handle the blatant lies of this man. To pray for those who have and are astray is easier than praying for him.
He knows what he is doing. Loads of deception. The world is in the Church that he "leads" and I hope those led astray and who listen to him realizes what a blasphemous person he is. We pray this in Jesus Name. Amen 🙏🏼 ❤
It’s not that God can’t override unbelief, but He is offended by it at a certain point.
God initiates salvation and the spiritually dead are made alive in Christ and given the gift of faith. God often starts a relationship with a new believer solving many of their problems and doing miraculous things to demonstrate His trustworthiness. But eventually He wants the Christian to move beyond believing in His existence to trusting in His person and reputation. He allows impossible situations as an opportunity for faith. If we refuse to trust Him, it’s because we put our faith in something other than His promises and His Word.
If we don’t read His Word we don’t even have a frame of reference for what His promises are and Christians put Jesus name on all sorts of ridiculous ideas and call it God and in many scenarios His Word condemns their behavior and the believer is clueless. The Old Testament is full of examples of God being offended at Israel’s unbelief. Jesus in the New Testament was constantly rebuking the disciples for their unbelief.
Faith is action/attitude based on the belief in Gods Word sustained by the confidence that God will do what He says…If a Christian isn’t living by faith in that sense…God is likely going to become offended.
Stephen Furtick, the only thing God cannot do...He cannot lie. Number 23:19. And our brother Justin Peters referred to the the Lord cannot lie.
Its one thing to override unbelief to heal but the requirement for salvation is belief.
If we confess with our mouth and believe in our heart that Jesus Christ is Lord we shall be saved.
I wish pastors, priests would stop going into business for themselves.
People....Bible is THE ONLY SOURCE to go to for accurate information on God and worship.
Hey now, I LOVE pineapple pizza
The call is not to expose suspect preachers but to preach to the lost. Where are the bold christians??
Wow! Steven Furtick is deceived and deceiving. ONLY if God quickens him will he repent and turn from preaching false doctrines.
He is not properly taught. I'm sure wherever he went to school, satan is proud of his false teaching. Very sad!
He was definitely deceived @@Hisgal04
I almost never agree with that man. He’s actually kinda right in the sense that is the only unforgivable sin which is my interpretation of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Denying the truth when the Spirits makes you aware.
Without Fatih it is impossible to please God
How can He Jesus be both able to and unable to - bad hermeneutics and homiletics as usual
Missed the authorial intent again - but he’s consistent
My personal testimony has determined this "man" to be a liar..
Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords
Weren't we ALL unbelievers at one time?! Wasn't PAUL in unbelief and on his way to KILL Christians when Christ APPREHENDED him? "It is GOD that worketh IN you both to WILL and to DO of His good pleasure".
L take. He’s speaking to our choice to reject Jesus even after we have been exposed to him.
God can not and will not override ur freewill despite what this calvinist thinks
Steven Furtick needs to step down and go to Pastor John Macarthur. He needs to ask Pastor MacArthur to mentor him so he can be qualified.
What Steven Furtick said is true. Instead of bashing a pastor about something you dont understand, search scriptures. The HE COULD NOT do any miracle there is just as important as, He did not because of their unbelief. He COULD not was what Mark saw, He tried, He could not heal many of them even though the power was there.
It is a disgrace as a pastor to say "Jesus chose not to heal people". Everywhere in Jesus ministry, Jesus said "Your faith", except in certain instances where people had not the ability to have faith.
If Jesus and God could primarily at will overide our faith, why are all men not saved right now? We are saved by grace, through FAITH. Does God want people to perish? NO. Why hasnt he forced everyone to have the faith? No, He reveals Himself however He wishes, vision, His word, etc.
So also, Jesus told the paralytic man, Do you want to be healed? Take up thy bed and walk. Immediately he arose, took up his bed and walked.
Jesus with the man born blind. He spit, made clay, put on his eyes. Go wash in the pool of Siloam. He went, washed, came seeing.
What is faith? Substance of things hoped for, EVIDENCE of things not yet seen.
If the paralytic man refused to take up his bed and gave every excuse, he probably would have remained there. So he believed what Jesus said, and did it... meaning Faith in His word.
Blind man, if he chose to go home, instead of to Siloam, he would not have been healed. He believed that word "Go to Siloam and wash". If he went anywhere else, means he did not believe what Jesus said.
Wedding at canaan, Mary said whatever He tells you do it. If they didnt do what Jesus said, "Fill the water pot, etc" meaning they did not believe in Him. Hence, no wine story. It would have been recorded, "He could not do any mighty works in the canaan wedding", "He did not because of their unbelief".
The only other instances where the receivers had to do nothing, where in case where they had no capacity to believe: Dumb and Deaf, Demon possessed, Dead.
So rather than rushing online, study more... write down, see the intricacies. James 1:7-9 says, if you ask of God for anything, do it in faith, or dont deceive yourself thinking you will receive anything without that faith.
Jesus Himself, says in many instances, "Your faith has made thee... whole". Mark 11:22-24 - Have faith in God.
What is faith? It is the evidence and assurance of things not yet seen. Hebrews 11:1
I implore, do what Acts 17:11 says:
“These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”
Exactly. It is as simple as God doesnt go against your free will.
Wrong... Jesus can and will choose to bless someone else who shows faith. He can do whatever He pleases.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
John 5:6
6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
Stevens right i can give everyone, everything but the want to.
If you dont BELIEVE him how can he help u.
Do u see the son of God?
Or just another man?
According to most statistics your god has about a twenty percent success rate with human beings Meaning eighty percent will be suffering for all eternity for the crime of not being able to make themselves believe in your god.
Belief in your god should be easy right? Even for people who were brought up in a different culture in a different part of the world right? until you think about this question.
Why don't you believe in another god people from a different culture in a different geographical location than you believe in?
I can already tell the answer is going to be because I believe in the correct God and they do not. Which is the exact same reason they are gonna give for believing in their god and not yours.
Bwahahaha ok Steven...
Matthew 7: 21-23
This doesnt not fit in the context of “free will” that steven mentioned.
i cant believe im going to say this because I cant STAND Furtick, but he is NOT WRONG on this SMALL clip shown of him. He is a major false teacher however the idea that Jesus can undo your free will to ACCEPT him or not is false. This is a calvinist belief that God (Jesus) can choose whether you believe or not in him. God cannot/ WILL NOT stand in your way. You have a free will of your own and can choose to accept Christ or reject him! That is affirmed by Billy Graham, Dr. Frank Turk, Dr. William Lane, Craig, Dr. Leighton flowers, and many more top of the pyramid of Christian leaders. God bless you all! Calvinist’s like to use romans 9 make their point however romans 9 actually goes against them. If you question this please look up the debate between Dr william lane craig and dr White. Two of the best christian teachers alive but, dr Craig handy defeats dr White and its very evident. Also Dr Layton flowers who used to be a calvinist (but converted over) also explains this extremely well.
If you are unable to repent of your false doctrine against pineapple on pizza.......
Just your standard Arminian. Nothing to see here, people!
@kb27787 This isn’t even Arminianism, tbh. Idk what this is.
It’s funny watching people bicker over a book that’s full of contradictions lol.
Heres the bottom line people. If God could he would. He is not willing that any should perish. So if he could make you believe,then his will is you could...please not arguments to my comment.
Peters is lying when he says "God cannot change." This is a delusion unique to Calvinism because they follow the Monad of Pythagoras (who worshipped Apollos), rather that the God of Scripture. The God of Scripture changes often. He does not change his nature or character, but he changes his intents and dispositions regularly,.
Then the word of the LORD came to me: "O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done? declares the LORD. Behold, like the clay in the potter’s hand, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel. If at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom, that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it, and if that nation, concerning which I have spoken, turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I intended to do to it. And if at any time I declare concerning a nation or a kingdom that I will build and plant it, and if it does evil in my sight, not listening to my voice, then I will relent of the good that I had intended to do to it. ~ Jeremiah 18:5-10
God effectively says the same thing in the story of Jonah, in Amos, in Joel, and in 2nd Timothy. If we change our hearts, then God will change his intents toward us. The Calvinist does not believe this, so they change Romans 9 to say, "objects of wrath, prepared for destruction" rather than "vessels of wrath, fit for destruction." Why? Because Romans 9 hearkens back to this passage, which clearly demosntrated that God does not unchangably purpose destruction for us. He intends to destroy evil, but gives us an opportunity to change, and even offers his help, thorugh the Holy Spirit, and the forgiveness bought by the blood of Jesus. The Calvinist does not believe this, so they say that God only chooses to love some before he created them, and to hate most before they created them. In other words, even thought Jesus says it is a hellworthy tresspass to hate someone without caus, that is precisely what God does, because those objects of wrath were created by him to hate them.
The immutibilty of God is very much supported in scripture:
Malachi 3:6:
6 “For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.
Numbers 23:19:
19 God is not man, that he should lie,
or a son of man, that he should change his mind
Psalm 102:26-27:
26 They will perish, but you will remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
You will change them like a robe, and they will pass away,
27 but you are the same, and your years have no end.
Nonsense he is God
Jesus chose non to heal everyone there. So sad that you don't even know who our God is. He is love. It's what many want to believe so they have an excuse to why they are not healed. God chooses who gets healed and who doesn't. Thats a disgrace to who our God is. He bore every sickness and disease on the cross. Not some but all. If only you and many who follow you would have revelation of the finished work of Christ and fully understand salvation (sozo). Maybe then like the woman with the issue of blood. Your faith would make you whole!
...this is semantics... You're looking for there to be something wrong with this his sermon... You should probably put more time into your own sermons, Sir!!!
I stopped watching Steve after a couple videos. He gave me a bad vibe. I feel he’s very prideful. He doesn’t stick to scripture and just talks about what he feels. He acts like a celebrity more than a tool being used by God.
Fools, what do you think the Pharisees were?
Wow, you have seriously taken that out of context. Making hay picking low hanging fruit? Since the Scriptures are true, and hence cannot be wrong, then what you’re saying is incorrect because the Scriptures say, “if you don’t believe don’t bother praying.” I’m not a fan of Furtick, and maybe he should have used “won’t” instead of “can’t” but you’re simply parsing words. It’s childish for someone who supposedly is a Bible scholar to say they didn’t understand Furtick’s intent. Entirely ridiculous and unnecessary. This is the exact reason I have become a none. As much as you claim to love Jesus you are intentionally creating descent among the brethren. The Scriptures also said that you, as an elder, will be judged more strictly. Might want to keep that in mind.
Which is EXACTLY WHY brother Justin Peters, and other WISE servants of God, expose the garbage that is being taught to thousands of naive and biblically illiterate ppl and TONS of silly women, as the Bible calls them. False teachers, as commanded by God in His word, should be exposed so that the born again believers can MARK AND AVOID such falsehood.
Wdym by “becoming a none”
Todd White is such a Manipulator!!!! It has to be GOD'S WILL TODD NOT YOUR'S!!!!!
Justen, your Jesus is wishy-washy
This man does not preach biblical truth
Steven, shut up, if you can't explain some of your messages, stop teaching it remember judgement will begin in the house..
Steve F is completely worthless....sad anyone gives him one second
Steven Furtick is a heretic. We might as well throw John 20:24-27 out of the Bible based on his ridiculous eisegesis of the text. If you know anything about Marcion and his heretical behavior during the time of patristic fathers, you'll see parallels in Steven's preaching.
Furtik is another false tacher. Useless
Furtick..heretic