Stanier tuned it very high and extremely tight to cut through the dense layers of guitar. Those kevlar heads helped too. His snare tuning when Helmet first started was fairly standard.
@@redghettosun Yes used a similar technique on Owner of a Lonely Heart, although it was against the wishes of the drummer (Alan White). Apparently the producer (Trevor Horn) had snuck in and re-tuned the snare on him while he was away so it fit in the track better.
Oh many can they just don’t. Blast beat is silly though. I can’t stand blast beat, it’s so overdone in some bands. It’s hard to do I’m sure, but it sounds stupid when you hear it over and over and everyone else is doing it too. Boring.
I'm really glad that some lost classics like "Betty" and Failure's "Fantastic Planet" are getting rediscovered right now. That era was just thick with great, heavy releases and it's like only now are people catching up. Hopefully Hum's "Downward is Heavenward" is next on the docket.
+krashkow you just made a Hum, Failure, Helmet combo there...if you added some Deftones, Tool, and RATM, you would be my best friend from 7th grade on haha
Indeed, I think we'd get along just peachy. While I didn't really get into Deftones or Tool until I was a bit older (like college), Rage was my thing from Day 1. Back in 7th grade (93-94 for me) my best friend and I got the DJ at our school dance to play "Freedom" and we started a mosh pit. One of my best memories, bar none, from that time.
John Stainer ... Righteous drummer who has a classic style. I love his break, almost like an accent as he is a Master on the skins!! What's so punk rock,(imop!) is how Paige Hamilton, John Stainer + all the members are on POINT big time.
Okay, I will share a loved memory of mine. I was about 13 and my dad had just gotten out of prison. He bought an old 70s all black Ford Bronco and put 4 15 inch speakers in the rear and smaller mids and tweets throughout. Rockford Fosgate throughout. So, here we were rolling around Seattle and the first song I heard was from Helmet, I believe it was the strap it on album. That was also the first Album my dad gave me when he got out, that and a set of Koss headphones with a Koss tape player. Some nights I would fall asleep listening to the album. Thanks for being part of my memories Helmet. It just would not have been the same without you.
They are, and this is one of the coolest tracks in all of hard rock, and I thought so every decade since then, spanning FOUR SEPARATE DECADES. So clean, so hard, so devoid of bullshit. The fact that this song is nearly 30 years old is crazy.
Is Helmet “grunge,” though? More importantly: Does it matter? They’re a Great Band, either way, and one that Absolutely Rocks and tears it all up every time. Cheers!
Hell yeah...I was in Florida though, so TOOL was my first/best concert. Probably 92-93, the EDGE in Orlando. I had 2 helmet tapes already though I think. Good memories....Wish I could go back.
Remember in the 90s when you could still wear your typical street/house clothes and still listen to hard rock. No labels attached. The sleeper rockers.
The 90’s had the best heavy music. All the best heavy bands now started in the 80’s and 90’s. There are a number of great ones now though I’m not pooping in them. But the 80’s and 90’s is when everyone started to go heavy. And even though I don’t listen to Black Sabbath, they started it in the 70’s along with a few other bands. MC5 comes to mind as well.
I wish I could click LIKE 100 times for this comment LOL Paige Hamilton has a friggin' PhD in jazz guitar, his solos could be masterpieces but he's always leaned towards noise
I went to the 2015 ‘Betty 20th reunion show where they played Betty in order in its entirety. It was a very small venue. They came on stage, plugged in and hit that first riff and almost blew the doors off. Helmet can move some serious air! Can’t wait to see the ‘30 year’ tour next month.
I was on so much acid during my Helmet days. I mainly listened to Carcass, Entombed, Death, Obituary, Morbid Angel, and Helmet always made a way in the mix.
Helmet owns. Most of the bands that came out since Helmet have been influenced by them. Some have admitted it, others haven't. Cheers to one of the most underrated bands ever.
That snare... That riff... That solo... Oh my. It could bring God's to their knees. Brutal! It's a goddamn brutal, face-melter, I tell you! I could listen to that riff and solo until the end of time. A completely unstoppable force without question.
This is one of the coolest tracks in all of hard rock, and I thought so every decade since then, spanning FOUR SEPARATE DECADES. So clean, so crisp, so hard, so devoid of bullshit. The fact this song is nearly 30 years old is crazy.
Betty is the literally THE VERY BEST album EVER. I dare anyone to find a better album than Betty. Kudos to Helmet for making this sick, sick, album and still relatively unknown work of art. I get chills. That's when you know it's good music. You get the chills. Still a regular 30 years later. All albums should be compared to this as the gold standard. Here's a small list of some of the albums that Betty beat out (IMO) to earn the "Jeff G all time best album". Take it as a big fucking compliment to Helmet (much deserved). Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti Metallica - Master of Puppets Jimi Hendrix - Smash Hits Yothu Yindi - Tribal Voice PJ Harvey - Rid of Me The Sugarcubes - Here today, tomorrow next week Jose Feliciano y Amigos Peter Tosh - Mama Africa Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath Alice in Chains - Dirt David Byrne - Rei Momo Johnny Cash: American IV: The Man Comes Around Sylvia Telles - The voice I love Soundgarden - SuperUnknown Roots Radics - Forward Ever, Backwards Never The Cranberries - Everybody else is doing it, so why can't we Beck - Guero Bad Religion - Against the grain Pennywise - self titled Bad Brains - Quickness Concrete Blonde - Free Ziggy Marley - Tomorrow People (hahaha - wtf do I always call it that - it's like a thing with this album - Conscious Party (say it again, write it down this time)) Pantera - Far Beyond Driven ( a 9 on the Betty scale, and Betty's one of those long tail scales. you know most shits in the middle.) All sick albums start to finish, but Betty climbs to the top. It MUST BE listened to loud. Funny thing is it seems that Meantime got all the radio attention. It was pretty good and all. But it was like a 6 on the Betty scale. Update: I was thinking of original post and why I bothered. It came to me quick. More than anything, it's a big thank you to Helmet for creating this piece of gold. It has definitely helped me in my life. big time. many many times. that's how good betty is. Here are a few more albums you beat out so you know the relevance of the compliment cause I definitely consider myself a music lover. Black Uhuru - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath White Zombie - Astro-Creep 2000 Bob Marley and the Wailers - Babylon By Bus Black Sabbath - Master of Reality Isley Brothers - Winner take all (Winner takes all - you take your pick) Gorillaz - Demon Days Wailing Souls - Fire House Rock Half Pint - Greetings A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory Widespread Panic - Space Wrangler Widespread Panic - Aint Life Grand Moby - Everything is wrong John Parish and PJ Harvey - Dance Hall at Louse Point Peter Tosh - Wanted Dread & Alive Santana - Caravanserai Bob Marley & the Wailers - Uprising Jimi Hendrix - Kiss the Sky Led Zeppelin II Dead Kennedy's - In God We Trust, Inc The Doors - Waiting for the Sun Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues Joe Satriani - Surfing with the Alien The SugarCubes - Stick Around For Joy PJ Harvey - Uh Huh Her Another tremendous set of albums that are amazing the whole way through - None beats Betty tho. If I was to write an article on Betty, the first word that would come to mind would be "Gripping". Once you turn Betty on, and turn it up, it has you. It has you. And you're good with that cause it's like a blanket to your soul. It's a rock to lean on when needed. And anyone who doesn't recognize any albums on this list, they are all gold. just pick one you haven't heard and go for it. This album list is (obviously) open source. Anyone can feel free to use it in any way if desired - just don't forget to include Betty on the list cause it's not actually in these lists since those are albums it beat out. Update: You knew it was coming. A few more albums Betty had to beat to get the top spot: 311 - Music Leftfield - Leftism Grateful Dead - Mars Hotel Polvo - Celebrate the New Dark Ages (better than you think) And why are some totally amazing albums left off. Over the top songs. Too many bands wreck albums with over the top songs. Looking at you Pepper, Dead Kennedy's, Prodigy. Update: Thought of a few more you had to get past including some techno (none beat Betty yet): Phish - Billy Breathes Therapy - Nurse Juan Atkins - Magic tracks deep detroit volume two (dj comp) Juan Atkins - Wax Trax! MasterMix - Volume 1 (dp comp) Ultimate Reggae - 20 classic reggae riddims (comp) Keoke - all mixed up (dj comp) The Orb - UF Orb The Chemical Brothers - Dig your own hole XMix - Issue Twenty One - 1994 (dj only comp) Josh Wink - United DJs of America - Volume 3 Kickin Mental Detergent Dave Matthews - Crash Bad Brains - Rise Ustad Sultan Khan - Sarangi - The music of india The Untouchables - Wild Child (ska) Long Beach Dub Allstars - Right Back Juan Atkins - Legends - Volume 1 Bruddah IZ - Alone in IZ World Josh Wink - Profound Sounds Vol 1 There are plenty of other 5 star albums out there, but this is a kickass list of albums and comps you beat out. These are all 5 star albums, but not 10s on the betty scale. Betty is really the only 10 on the betty scale. Only 5 star albums are even included to be compared. Untouchables - WildChild and Chemical Brothers - Dig your own hole are the only albums on this list that have a few songs I don't really like but still gave the album 5 star because they are so damn good at parts. Widespread Panic - Til the Medicine Takes (you knew it was comin' ...) Okay, I have it down, I think: Top 5 albums of all time, in order: 1) Helmet - Betty 2) Metallica - Master of Puppets 3) Pantera - Far Beyond Driven 4) Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti 5) Santana - Caravanserai Somebody out there's probably reading this shit, even if it's just the cops! --- OK, we're continuing through to a top 10 6) David Byrne - Rei Momo 7) Concrete Blonde - Free 8) PJ Harvey - Uh Huh Her 9) Yothu Yindi - Tribal Voice 10) Pennywise (self titled album) - someone's reading this shit, I know it to be true. Update: Rei Momo moved a notch up after another recent listen. Sorry Peej, it's that good. It's that damn good. OK, it's all locked in at this point. Jeff G all-time top 10 album list. Now, time to lock in "La Crema" - all albums above plus the following 3: Citizen Fish - Flinch Widespread Panic - Everyday PJ Harvey - Dry Helmet - Strap It On OK, if I post here again, you can stab me. There are tons of 5 star albums not on "La Crema". This is just shit I like. I only got 1 like on this post, lol I guess I got a beating coming ... Had to comment to replace Beastie Boys as they drop the n-bomb a few times, and that excluded it - for certain. I'm replacing with: Jimmy Cliff - The Ultimate Collection (I know, I know - a comp? -- yeah, a comp - it's good all the way through) I'm gonna have to take a flogging I guess ... Back for the update (of the top 10 list). I personally believe Concrete Blonde's Free is the best female album ever made. It's just phenomenal. It had to be on top 10. And another for the greatest album list while I'm here (sneaking it in). Sandy Denny - Rendezvous - tho she has many other great ones too I guess I'm in for some beatings ... A few that just had to be on this list Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy Peter Tosh - Equal Rights Peter Tosh - No Nuclear War And the top 10 got updated again. It's a legend of a list, you must admit Oh, who am I kidding, I can't stop this list ... Flog me if you want The Sundays - Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic Edie Brickell & New Bohmeians - Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks (too epic to leave off - all the way through). TSOL - Revenge - how could I leave it off Jane's Addiction - Nothing's shocking
@@snufftherooster93 - only because nobody listens to helmet anymore. Not that many ever found this album. Reminds me, I still needed to add to the list. left off TSOL - Revenge, and Jane's Addition Nothing's Shocking.
@@snufftherooster93 - that's because there was so much good music put out in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Even though the good music stopped (mostly) at the 90s - with a few good bands putting out a few good songs afterwards, and a few rare musicians that were all about the love of the making the music still put out quality, but 90% of the good music ended.
For all you youngins out there - you can't really classify this as grunge - this was NYC Hardcore - been there did that - separate scene - different from the Seattle at the time - also check out Unsane, Surgery and Chrome Locust, among others for early 90's NYC hardcore - sounds actually varied by region then due to a lack of internet and stuff was still printed on vinyl and played on jukeboxes
Rene Harde I don't think whole grunge thing is about Seattle.STP is from San Diego.Grunge is alt rock,I don't see something distinct in Grunge genre.I would consider Helmet,Smashing Pumpkins,Blind Melon or Sonic Youth as a Grunge band in this case.
And could make a living out of it. Streaming is fine and all but only the few get rich. When it was still CD's you stood a chance of actually being a professional musician
I remember getting a head butt to the face during their show just before this album was released. There was no way out that pit so I stayed bloody nose and all. The 90’s baby!
@@fackumon292 IMO, Around the Fur is one of the greatest sounding albums ever. Terry Date absolutely mastered his craft on that album, every instrument sounds fantastic. I read a interview with stephen carpenter & he knew very little about his sound or setup, it was very disappointing...& Stephen the earth is NOT flat.
Ebola Jenkins I mean you can say what you’d like but if you search up what genre helmet is what comes up is alternative metal, post hardcore and noise rock
Aw man....this song means so much to me. It was one of the first Helmet songs I heard, and those lyrics and instruments really stuck with me as a new kid in high school. Just saw Helmet last night and this was such a fucking awesome song to enjoy....their still killing it years later..
Тетя 38 лет. Открыла для себя эту группу недавно. Потому что когда они были на гребне, я была маленькой и не слышала о них. Не было интернета и все такое. Рок 90-х самый лучший! ❤🇰🇿🇰🇿
@@mtc8335 How does that make sense? It's not like I'm critiquing any of them by comparing them to myself lol. This snare is horrendous, Helmet however are not ;).
Greatest snare tone I've heard in the last 50 years.
His and 311's are the best. It's gotta be a metal snare, not as tall as usual. Tuning matters also.
What about abe Cunningham from Deftones lol
@@daltonhunt4878 love his drumming too, but Stanier from this era is just so distinct and metal in a way that you can't unhear.
Stanier tuned it very high and extremely tight to cut through the dense layers of guitar. Those kevlar heads helped too. His snare tuning when Helmet first started was fairly standard.
@@redghettosun Yes used a similar technique on Owner of a Lonely Heart, although it was against the wishes of the drummer (Alan White). Apparently the producer (Trevor Horn) had snuck in and re-tuned the snare on him while he was away so it fit in the track better.
One of the tightest bands of all time. All of them hit that down-beat in perfect time.
+Mikel Taylor Stanier was rock solid on the drum kit! Now he's in Battles. Cool shit
+drunktastic awesome, I did not know that.
the two and the four are technically the upbeat....
good point.
Amen to that mikel
Drummers today can play blast beats a 30000000 miles per hour but none of them can absolutely smack down a groove like Stanier
Oh many can they just don’t. Blast beat is silly though. I can’t stand blast beat, it’s so overdone in some bands. It’s hard to do I’m sure, but it sounds stupid when you hear it over and over and everyone else is doing it too. Boring.
Alice in Chains Drummer hitting the bongos man, that's what this drummer reminds me of.
THAT is how you begin an album!
TheirGREATEST album!!
@@derekkolaga3525 really is
Dead ass! My favorite album of all time. Helmet rules
F yeah they got some swing & are heavy
I'm really glad that some lost classics like "Betty" and Failure's "Fantastic Planet" are getting rediscovered right now. That era was just thick with great, heavy releases and it's like only now are people catching up. Hopefully Hum's "Downward is Heavenward" is next on the docket.
+krashkow you just made a Hum, Failure, Helmet combo there...if you added some Deftones, Tool, and RATM, you would be my best friend from 7th grade on haha
Indeed, I think we'd get along just peachy. While I didn't really get into Deftones or Tool until I was a bit older (like college), Rage was my thing from Day 1. Back in 7th grade (93-94 for me) my best friend and I got the DJ at our school dance to play "Freedom" and we started a mosh pit. One of my best memories, bar none, from that time.
Hum is dope
Never heard of failure before this comment thank you. Was not disappointed one bit
W W they had a band together called handsome. You may know them but if you don’t you must check them out
"I think like this is what your butt looks like from the inside" -Butthead
Drums.. so fucking perfect, timing and sound. especially that wicked snare.
Piccolo box
Snare reminds me of Snapcase - Caboose
John Stainer ... Righteous drummer who has a classic style. I love his break, almost like an accent as he is a Master on the skins!! What's so punk rock,(imop!) is how Paige Hamilton, John Stainer + all the members are on POINT big time.
@@Stormvogel262 fr snapcase was like the hardcore version of helmet
The snare on unsung really got me into the band, such a sick drummer
Okay, I will share a loved memory of mine. I was about 13 and my dad had just gotten out of prison. He bought an old 70s all black Ford Bronco and put 4 15 inch speakers in the rear and smaller mids and tweets throughout. Rockford Fosgate throughout. So, here we were rolling around Seattle and the first song I heard was from Helmet, I believe it was the strap it on album. That was also the first Album my dad gave me when he got out, that and a set of Koss headphones with a Koss tape player. Some nights I would fall asleep listening to the album. Thanks for being part of my memories Helmet. It just would not have been the same without you.
That's a pretty cool story Butthead.
I dont understand why this isnt the top comment.
@FairlyDickinson heheheh u cried
Your dad sounds like a pretty cool guy.
@FairlyDickinson 🤣
This is one of the most badass bands I’ve ever seen, and the funny thing is they’re not even trying to be
That was part of the magic - they didn't have to try to be anything, they just were. Cool is only cool if it's effortless.
If you haven't heard it, check out The Crow soundtrack.
You might appreciate it.
I wish I could have seen them rocking dudes,also ahead of the times
They are, and this is one of the coolest tracks in all of hard rock, and I thought so every decade since then, spanning FOUR SEPARATE DECADES. So clean, so hard, so devoid of bullshit. The fact that this song is nearly 30 years old is crazy.
@@karensweeden5038 There's still time, "they'" are still around - well, a totally different lineup apart from the main man, Page Hamilton.
Helmet had the best snare
+Bo88y Beretta
Worse sounding more like it. Snare's should not sound like steel. Almost as bad as Lars Ulrich's snare on Metallica's St. Anger.
they changed it later
this restores my faith in internet comments.
Helmet had the best:
Early Snapcase has dope snare too
Helmet's signature sound is those sludgey distorted guitars,crisp bass,and loud snares in the drums
I always thought it was the pauses in their riffs. It's such a signature flavor
This brings me back to being a 15 year old in the grunge era. NOTHING replaces it.
that was the golden era
Is Helmet “grunge,” though? More importantly: Does it matter? They’re a Great Band, either way, and one that Absolutely Rocks and tears it all up every time. Cheers!
Grunge was shit, helmet is king!!!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Patrick Walker grunge rules
Helmet is more metal/alt-metal
This music video is so trippy. great song! so underrated.
ikr
Looks like it was all done with Fractint, freeware mandelbrot set viewer. That was another 90's item worth remembering and still going too AFAIK
Remember the 90's when you could hear the snare drum in the song whether you wanted to or not
Hell yeah...I was in Florida though, so TOOL was my first/best concert. Probably 92-93, the EDGE in Orlando. I had 2 helmet tapes already though I think. Good memories....Wish I could go back.
aint that the truth
Fuckin' John Stanier, innit.
ow it hurts
80s babies rule!!
Page Hamilton is a fuckin genius
Remember in the 90s when you could still wear your typical street/house clothes and still listen to hard rock. No labels attached. The sleeper rockers.
My neck always gets really sore from watching Helmet videos. Damndest thing.
I feel ya...
ÁUß Code
Like so few bands today, they knew how to RIFF. And the RIFF is so important.
Wow!Swear words!
Like a more modern black sabbath
Three years ago after the show, I personally told page Hamilton that he rules. He thanked me with sincere grattitude. that was awesome.
I heard he's really tall... like around 6'5 or so
@@resatyurdakul6742 Jesus
I love the psychedelic stuff at the end. So reminiscent of 90's computer graphics
It probably is literally 90's computer graphics, considering when this song was made, but what it is specifically is Mandelbrot set zooms, lol.
Dude if I watched this while on an acid trip I'd probably have a seizure
One of the best bands live, I've ever seen.
0:19 is hands down my favorite part in any song where the main riff busts in
Perfection 😘
In this part i instantly focused on Page
One of the most underappreciated bands
Man, I love this early 90s neo-psychedelic post-hardcore alt-math metal sound.
123WelshDan321 - now say that in English
@@kaydgaming Man, I love this tight band!
Absolutely
Check out HUM
well summarized
You know your taste in music is leveling up when you come across this band. Awesome, so awesome. Love Betty and Aftertaste. Great band!
This just never gets old
This is so fucking 1990s.
Yes...and awesome as a result!
The 90’s had the best heavy music. All the best heavy bands now started in the 80’s and 90’s. There are a number of great ones now though I’m not pooping in them. But the 80’s and 90’s is when everyone started to go heavy. And even though I don’t listen to Black Sabbath, they started it in the 70’s along with a few other bands. MC5 comes to mind as well.
Best video of the 90s and maybe ever! During the guitar solo it's just pure tripping bliss. I love the psychedelic side to life and Helmet ;)
probably the coolest opening to a music video
Gotta love those guitar solos that sound like literal train wrecks.
Jack Hesse Amen
Can we hear your solo work,,,Jack Hesse ?
@@atazoth3296 it was a compliment lol
Train wrecks like Unsung
I wish I could click LIKE 100 times for this comment LOL
Paige Hamilton has a friggin' PhD in jazz guitar, his solos could be masterpieces but he's always leaned towards noise
One of my favorite bands
Tbm bro
Saw them this past Saturday. One of the best shows I've been to!
Can’t believe I just got into this band. Amazing. Way ahead of their time. Much respect.
I went to the 2015 ‘Betty 20th reunion show where they played Betty in order in its entirety. It was a very small venue. They came on stage, plugged in and hit that first riff and almost blew the doors off. Helmet can move some serious air! Can’t wait to see the ‘30 year’ tour next month.
That snare tone.
hey me from 8 years ago
@@AlanShortySwanson crazy collab fr
rock and roll is dead, but the 90's will always live in my heart. I am just glad i was alive for it.
Helmet Rocks ! OUTSTANDING ! Inspirational ! Some of the best guitar riffs in the land ! EVER !
One of my top ten all time faves.
Helmet is ingenious.
-Page Hamilton forever!
Tool fan and just got introduced to Helmet. This is the first song I am hearing and I'm liking it.
Rayne Art Helmet rules:D
I was gonna say listen to unsung and milquetoast. Then I realized this comment was made 6 years ago.
Bobby Reeves he probably hees unsung and didn’t know who it was everyone has
@@guttercruiser2295 never too late for good music
Lol , 6 years , 1 week
That snare tho
John stanier... beast above other men....that snare sounds signals the arrival of the true drum beast
Is that a picolo snare or rim shots? Or?
xrayyokezebra Nah it's just tuned real tight.
snare rules
piccolo, yall
goddamn
I was on so much acid during my Helmet days. I mainly listened to Carcass, Entombed, Death, Obituary, Morbid Angel, and Helmet always made a way in the mix.
most u ever did?
Same with me some clutch as well seemed like clutch opened for everyone back then
What a wonderful time to be alive
This decade is so ass lmao. And this is coming from someone who doesn’t think he was born in the wrong generation.
This is 10 years late but I hope you discovered Gojira by now. Sounds like it would fit right in.
if you ever saw them live back in the day you would know! STRAP IT ON!
Still own it
My favorite album by them
Saw them open for Korn in 1996
One of the best live bands I've ever seen, Last time I saw them was sadly in 1996 in Providence.
@@patrickpitts3131 shoulda been the other way around..
Love this song, love this album, the best Helmet album. First heard it in 1995 when I was 15, and I am still listening to it now.
My favorite track of theirs!
Man I’m 46..how the hell did I miss this band cutting my teeth back then…they’re freaking heavy, tight, with some swing…catching up now..F yeah
2021.. and still RIFFS/SNARE DRUM/BREAKS/RECORDING.. still a milestone
I LOVE YOU HELMET
Helmet owns. Most of the bands that came out since Helmet have been influenced by them. Some have admitted it, others haven't. Cheers to one of the most underrated bands ever.
Helmet and Quicksand were two of my favorite bands from that era.
Does Helmet still own for you 12 years later?
@@FactsBeFacts Judging from his page Overwatch owns him now.
Every sound is so dry n tight.
I love it!
Sounds like my wife
That snare... That riff... That solo... Oh my. It could bring God's to their knees. Brutal! It's a goddamn brutal, face-melter, I tell you!
I could listen to that riff and solo until the end of time. A completely unstoppable force without question.
12 years later, are you still listening to it?
This is one of the coolest tracks in all of hard rock, and I thought so every decade since then, spanning FOUR SEPARATE DECADES. So clean, so crisp, so hard, so devoid of bullshit. The fact this song is nearly 30 years old is crazy.
Bro this shit hard asf 😭
A year later this shit still hard asf now I’m playing the solo 😂
I like the snare. This band had a sound that was definitely all their own. Love it.
Ah, the 90's. The hell with now.
Iconic video
Betty is the literally THE VERY BEST album EVER. I dare anyone to find a better album than Betty. Kudos to Helmet for making this sick, sick, album and still relatively unknown work of art. I get chills. That's when you know it's good music. You get the chills. Still a regular 30 years later. All albums should be compared to this as the gold standard.
Here's a small list of some of the albums that Betty beat out (IMO) to earn the "Jeff G all time best album". Take it as a big fucking compliment to Helmet (much deserved).
Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Jimi Hendrix - Smash Hits
Yothu Yindi - Tribal Voice
PJ Harvey - Rid of Me
The Sugarcubes - Here today, tomorrow next week
Jose Feliciano y Amigos
Peter Tosh - Mama Africa
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
Alice in Chains - Dirt
David Byrne - Rei Momo
Johnny Cash: American IV: The Man Comes Around
Sylvia Telles - The voice I love
Soundgarden - SuperUnknown
Roots Radics - Forward Ever, Backwards Never
The Cranberries - Everybody else is doing it, so why can't we
Beck - Guero
Bad Religion - Against the grain
Pennywise - self titled
Bad Brains - Quickness
Concrete Blonde - Free
Ziggy Marley - Tomorrow People (hahaha - wtf do I always call it that - it's like a thing with this album - Conscious Party (say it again, write it down this time))
Pantera - Far Beyond Driven ( a 9 on the Betty scale, and Betty's one of those long tail scales. you know most shits in the middle.)
All sick albums start to finish, but Betty climbs to the top. It MUST BE listened to loud.
Funny thing is it seems that Meantime got all the radio attention. It was pretty good and all. But it was like a 6 on the Betty scale.
Update: I was thinking of original post and why I bothered. It came to me quick. More than anything, it's a big thank you to Helmet for creating this piece of gold. It has definitely helped me in my life. big time. many many times. that's how good betty is.
Here are a few more albums you beat out so you know the relevance of the compliment cause I definitely consider myself a music lover.
Black Uhuru - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
White Zombie - Astro-Creep 2000
Bob Marley and the Wailers - Babylon By Bus
Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
Isley Brothers - Winner take all (Winner takes all - you take your pick)
Gorillaz - Demon Days
Wailing Souls - Fire House Rock
Half Pint - Greetings
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
Widespread Panic - Space Wrangler
Widespread Panic - Aint Life Grand
Moby - Everything is wrong
John Parish and PJ Harvey - Dance Hall at Louse Point
Peter Tosh - Wanted Dread & Alive
Santana - Caravanserai
Bob Marley & the Wailers - Uprising
Jimi Hendrix - Kiss the Sky
Led Zeppelin II
Dead Kennedy's - In God We Trust, Inc
The Doors - Waiting for the Sun
Talking Heads - Speaking in Tongues
Joe Satriani - Surfing with the Alien
The SugarCubes - Stick Around For Joy
PJ Harvey - Uh Huh Her
Another tremendous set of albums that are amazing the whole way through - None beats Betty tho. If I was to write an article on Betty, the first word that would come to mind would be "Gripping". Once you turn Betty on, and turn it up, it has you. It has you. And you're good with that cause it's like a blanket to your soul. It's a rock to lean on when needed. And anyone who doesn't recognize any albums on this list, they are all gold. just pick one you haven't heard and go for it. This album list is (obviously) open source. Anyone can feel free to use it in any way if desired - just don't forget to include Betty on the list cause it's not actually in these lists since those are albums it beat out.
Update: You knew it was coming.
A few more albums Betty had to beat to get the top spot:
311 - Music
Leftfield - Leftism
Grateful Dead - Mars Hotel
Polvo - Celebrate the New Dark Ages (better than you think)
And why are some totally amazing albums left off. Over the top songs. Too many bands wreck albums with over the top songs. Looking at you Pepper, Dead Kennedy's, Prodigy.
Update: Thought of a few more you had to get past including some techno (none beat Betty yet):
Phish - Billy Breathes
Therapy - Nurse
Juan Atkins - Magic tracks deep detroit volume two (dj comp)
Juan Atkins - Wax Trax! MasterMix - Volume 1 (dp comp)
Ultimate Reggae - 20 classic reggae riddims (comp)
Keoke - all mixed up (dj comp)
The Orb - UF Orb
The Chemical Brothers - Dig your own hole
XMix - Issue Twenty One - 1994 (dj only comp)
Josh Wink - United DJs of America - Volume 3
Kickin Mental Detergent
Dave Matthews - Crash
Bad Brains - Rise
Ustad Sultan Khan - Sarangi - The music of india
The Untouchables - Wild Child (ska)
Long Beach Dub Allstars - Right Back
Juan Atkins - Legends - Volume 1
Bruddah IZ - Alone in IZ World
Josh Wink - Profound Sounds Vol 1
There are plenty of other 5 star albums out there, but this is a kickass list of albums and comps you beat out. These are all 5 star albums, but not 10s on the betty scale. Betty is really the only 10 on the betty scale. Only 5 star albums are even included to be compared. Untouchables - WildChild and Chemical Brothers - Dig your own hole are the only albums on this list that have a few songs I don't really like but still gave the album 5 star because they are so damn good at parts.
Widespread Panic - Til the Medicine Takes (you knew it was comin' ...)
Okay, I have it down, I think:
Top 5 albums of all time, in order:
1) Helmet - Betty
2) Metallica - Master of Puppets
3) Pantera - Far Beyond Driven
4) Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
5) Santana - Caravanserai
Somebody out there's probably reading this shit, even if it's just the cops!
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OK, we're continuing through to a top 10
6) David Byrne - Rei Momo
7) Concrete Blonde - Free
8) PJ Harvey - Uh Huh Her
9) Yothu Yindi - Tribal Voice
10) Pennywise (self titled album)
- someone's reading this shit, I know it to be true.
Update: Rei Momo moved a notch up after another recent listen. Sorry Peej, it's that good. It's that damn good.
OK, it's all locked in at this point. Jeff G all-time top 10 album list.
Now, time to lock in "La Crema" - all albums above plus the following 3:
Citizen Fish - Flinch
Widespread Panic - Everyday
PJ Harvey - Dry
Helmet - Strap It On
OK, if I post here again, you can stab me.
There are tons of 5 star albums not on "La Crema".
This is just shit I like.
I only got 1 like on this post, lol
I guess I got a beating coming ...
Had to comment to replace Beastie Boys as they drop the n-bomb a few times, and that excluded it - for certain.
I'm replacing with:
Jimmy Cliff - The Ultimate Collection (I know, I know - a comp? -- yeah, a comp - it's good all the way through)
I'm gonna have to take a flogging I guess ... Back for the update (of the top 10 list). I personally believe Concrete Blonde's Free is the best female album ever made. It's just phenomenal. It had to be on top 10.
And another for the greatest album list while I'm here (sneaking it in).
Sandy Denny - Rendezvous - tho she has many other great ones too
I guess I'm in for some beatings ...
A few that just had to be on this list
Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
Peter Tosh - Equal Rights
Peter Tosh - No Nuclear War
And the top 10 got updated again.
It's a legend of a list, you must admit
Oh, who am I kidding, I can't stop this list ... Flog me if you want
The Sundays - Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic
Edie Brickell & New Bohmeians - Shooting Rubberbands at the Stars
Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks (too epic to leave off - all the way through).
TSOL - Revenge - how could I leave it off
Jane's Addiction - Nothing's shocking
Disagree. It’s a good album though
Mate.
No one is reading all that.
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- only because nobody listens to helmet anymore. Not that many ever found this album. Reminds me, I still needed to add to the list. left off TSOL - Revenge, and Jane's Addition Nothing's Shocking.
@@jeffg4686 = No, because it's a ridiculous amount of text.
@@snufftherooster93 - that's because there was so much good music put out in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Even though the good music stopped (mostly) at the 90s - with a few good bands putting out a few good songs afterwards, and a few rare musicians that were all about the love of the making the music still put out quality, but 90% of the good music ended.
I will forever be thankful for the day I happily stumbled across this band
For all you youngins out there - you can't really classify this as grunge - this was NYC Hardcore - been there did that - separate scene - different from the Seattle at the time - also check out Unsane, Surgery and Chrome Locust, among others for early 90's NYC hardcore - sounds actually varied by region then due to a lack of internet and stuff was still printed on vinyl and played on jukeboxes
Rene Harde this was actually Alternative Metal since they were the first Alternative Metal band
Rene Harde I don't think whole grunge thing is about Seattle.STP is from San Diego.Grunge is alt rock,I don't see something distinct in Grunge genre.I would consider Helmet,Smashing Pumpkins,Blind Melon or Sonic Youth as a Grunge band in this case.
This kinda has elements of fear factor to it. That kinda industrial sound, like a fucking steam engine tearing down the tracks. Love it
Madball is NYC hardcore, helmet is not. Love helmet, but metal
Classed as “Post metal”.
it's been 25 years since i gave this album a play. now i realize how big a part of my 30's this was. sometimes it's great to go back.
Never forget. This was when good bands actually got signed.
And could make a living out of it. Streaming is fine and all but only the few get rich. When it was still CD's you stood a chance of actually being a professional musician
I remember getting a head butt to the face during their show just before this album was released. There was no way out that pit so I stayed bloody nose and all. The 90’s baby!
Helmet é uma banda maravilhosa. As músicas deles são excelentes.
@G2 como assim?
@G2 Verdade, achei bem fraco esse álbum novo.
Sem contas as bandas que o Helmet inspirou como Deftones, Limp Bizkit e Korn...
Such a boss album.💥
I traded a friend my Deftones Adrenaline album for Betty....best deal ever.
Adrenaline is really badass tho
@@Andrew-qw2dz It's no Betty I'm afraid.
I just have both albums😊
They’re similar albums but Betty is of course far better, around the fur is the best one tho
@@fackumon292 IMO, Around the Fur is one of the greatest sounding albums ever. Terry Date absolutely mastered his craft on that album, every instrument sounds fantastic. I read a interview with stephen carpenter & he knew very little about his sound or setup, it was very disappointing...& Stephen the earth is NOT flat.
Just bought tickets to see these guys with FNM. Can't wait to see two of my favorite bands from growing up.
I saw Helmet open for FNM on the Angel Dust tour in Cleveland. It was a killer show.
My favorite band of all time!!
Great band!!
So nice to see people talking about the snare sound. I’ve loved it since the 90’s and always wanted to sample it. Guess what I’m doing tomorrow
if i wasnt epileptic, i am now
😂😂😂
Nothing beats 90s music videos. People, this is what music LOOKS like.......
657k views! should be 657 million!!
7 billion
One of my fav bands
Catchy ass song.
yeah; saw them live 1994 in switzerland...what a great gig!! still got my white Betty shirt; great times!!
90s Alternative Metal gotta love it. :)
Helmet is not metal
@@DonnyBomb yes they clearly are
@@moustachio05 post hardcore. they didn't become "metal" until the mid 2000s and after that
@@DonnyBomb this post- hardcore? No
Ebola Jenkins I mean you can say what you’d like but if you search up what genre helmet is what comes up is alternative metal, post hardcore and noise rock
Aw man....this song means so much to me. It was one of the first Helmet songs I heard, and those lyrics and instruments really stuck with me as a new kid in high school. Just saw Helmet last night and this was such a fucking awesome song to enjoy....their still killing it years later..
that riff....
The 90s snare drum was just opened up any song and it never got old
helmet rules
Always come back to this to remember how gnarly this band was. My dad loved them. R.i.p pops
Page Hamilton + Tommy Victor (Prong) + Dino Cazares (Fear Factory) = Lendas. Pais de todos os guitarristas dos anos 90 e 2000.
Uma pena, ambas dessas bandas não terem o sucesso que merecem...
I remember cruising home from the local bar back when this was out and hearing this come on the radio. Good times.
Still awesome in 2023!
agreed
One of the best songs and music videos ever written and made!
music does not get better thab this
First time ever heard this. I've known Unsung forever. This holds up. A thinking man's metal.
Still have their first three albums.
HELMET. TIMELESS.
Good solid 90's stuff. My alternative listening during the grunge takeover.
One of the best bands of my lifetime.
Those Bass Chords tho.
Oh hell yes!!!
I read that Page guided the bassist on how to approach the bass in their songs with a more jazzy style
Metal
That drum set is all you need!
Very Alternative!
Тетя 38 лет. Открыла для себя эту группу недавно. Потому что когда они были на гребне, я была маленькой и не слышала о них. Не было интернета и все такое. Рок 90-х самый лучший! ❤🇰🇿🇰🇿
Metallica heard the snare sound and was like "lemme do this, but terrible"
Both sound like shit mate
St.Anger needs to be hailed as the milestone it is: "The Ultimate Failure"
@@Gravityys betcha both bands are better than your band mate.
@@mtc8335 How does that make sense? It's not like I'm critiquing any of them by comparing them to myself lol. This snare is horrendous, Helmet however are not ;).
@@Gravityys good call lol. Yea helmet is kick ass. Very influential band 🤘
How did I get through 39 years on this crazy little rock and only just find these guys now?!?!?!?!
0:44 chocolate, and loud
Lmaooo
Helmet kicked ass in the meantime and after taste betty all those albums fuckin hit hard love em
They fucking rock
I am excited for the Helmet show on St. Paddy's Day in Ferndale, Mi. I will be reliving (the 90's) my high school years
Alex Winter, Ted from Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure directed this.
Alex Winter was Bill S. Preston, Esq.
the wyld stallionz have really improved lol