The MAGICAL GLIDE of Sun Yang
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- My SENSORY TRAINING WEEK for an EFFECTIVE freestyle stroke (from coaching over 3000 people):
www.thefrenchswimcoach.com/
(including the MAGIC PALM exercise in video)
WHO AM I ?
I help TRIATHLETES (and OPEN WATER SWIMMERS) to SWIM 1'30/100m EASY (while GLIDING) with the SENSORY METHOD.
I am Pierre, a state-certified French swimming coach (BE2),
EXPERT in FREESTYLE STROKE TECHNIQUE for TRIATHLETES and OPEN WATER SWIMMERS who started their swimming journey late.
SPECIALIST in the SENSORY METHOD
(landmarks invented by Raymond CATTEAU, one of the greatest French-speaking swimming technician):
- coach of dozens of swimmers at the highest national level, including several under 4 minutes on the 400 freestyle : www.thefrenchswimcoach.com/
2 international swimmers
5 world and european medals
30+ athletes qualified for the French Nationals
15+ French Nationals medals
- French coach since 2009 specialized in Freestyle:
+2000 students coached face to face over at least one season
- editor of specialized articles on freestyle stroke for Trimag
THE VIDEO OF THE DAY
00:00 Intro
00:23 INTERMITTENT Propulsion
01:25 Ultra HIGH Catch
04:13 An ESSENTIAL Factor
05:27 HYBRID Kick
The MAGICAL GLIDE of Sun YANG
Sun YANG, it's:
3 Olympic titles, 11 World Champion titles.
All in individual events with a WORLD RECORD in the 1500 in 58/100m!
(with a bit of chemical help)
But it's also:
A 2-meter-tall swimming machine with a beautiful wingspan...
An ultra-HIGH propulsive MOVEMENT combined with an uncommon HYBRID kick ;-)
So here's what we can learn from his MAGICAL GLIDE!
My SENSORY TRAINING WEEK for an EFFECTIVE freestyle stroke (from coaching over 3000 people):
www.thefrenchswimcoach.com/
(including the MAGIC PALM exercise in video)
Man who cares you're glorifying a drug cheat and your not using force analysis to show his propulsion versus drag .
@@ithelightr3020 I'll let you explain
Reasons for his being as fast as he is for a race like the 1500m free. He is well balanced. His head and feet are on the same plane. He has what we call wide tracks. His hands and arm are straight off his shoulder keeping his "vessel" (body) streamlined. He is tall, 6'7" and any nautical engineer will tell you the longer the vessel the easier it goes through the water. He has a patient hand. In other words, he doesn't catch until his opposite hand is ready to enter the water, again he maintains his streamline longer than the other swimmers. His propulsion is a matter of his body rotation not so much his pull. Because his length per stroke is long, less exergy expended, his streamline, he takes fewer strokes therefore he can go faster, longer than the other swimmers. However, notice that for a world class swimmer, when he breathes his body bends and is no longer straight. If he stayed straight he would go even farther on that side. Notice also that he tends to scoop his hands up some. That actually causes drag. If he let his hands go palm back and down a bit again, he would lengthen his stroke a little farther which would be to his advantage. His limited kick is valuable and it is used to help rotate his body but he is using less energy than the other swimmers. Swimming is all about balance, streamline (both active and passive). And he uses his whole body on one side then those muscles turn off while the other side is recovering to spear the water again. Huge energy savers. To swim like that check out Total Immersion. They teach this.
If he completed his arm extension, he would tire the triceps quickly so it would not be faster in the long term... and yes, I have often been told in France that our methods at IT and mine (sensory method) are resembled in the principles taught!
Sounds professional analysis of swimming to me, and I have leart some from it, thank you!
@@tonychan3978 thx !
@@tonychan3978 my pleasure !
The two "flaws" you highlight just indicate flaws in your analysis, which is otherwise good. TI is incompatible with swimming 30 consecutive 29's.
He has one of the most beautiful and efficient strokes I've ever seen, absolutely perfect for a distance swimmer. The sheer number of fewer strokes he takes per length of pool than other swimmers alongside him shows how powerful and efficient his stroke is
also beautifully and efficient doping
@@aidangeorge7012 damn, lowlifes will always think like lowlifes I guess. Making up stuff without evidence is your specialty? He wasn't even found to have tested positive for anything during the clearly provocative vial incident. Maybe you can practice getting your brain more beautiful and efficient
@@user-vg7fe4wk6s the jealousy never ends 😂
I'm totally agree ! Thx fort the comment !
@@aidangeorge7012 Just like all those Aussies and Americans
hands down the best free style swimmer of all time.
i love Thorpe too
Pierre, you are "The Best" swim analyst on UA-cam. Nobody else even comes close to your abilities. I started studying Sun Yang's perfect distance freestyle in the hopes of making some improvements to the top speed at my local pool. I started by taking photos of Sun Yang in a stop motion capture off of his London Olympic 1500 world record. For you Master's Swimmers out there, copying his stroke will only make you faster, rather than practicing endless intervals for year after year after year with ZERO stroke improvements and ZERO reduction in interval times. Key #1: YOU can't make all of the changes in one workout. Key #2: Sun Yang uses muscles that quite frankly, you don't use. One of the first things that you'll notice is that you'll be terribly sore in swimming muscles that you'd have bet a hundred dollars, that you had been using those muscles. You'd be dead wrong. So, slowly allow your newly discovered lower back muscles to strengthen. Then, allow your shoulder muscles to learn how to stretch. Then, feel the soreness of your upper back and lat muscles, and allow them to adapt. Key #3: Timing. What's the 1st Rule of Comedy? Well, it applies here too. What is timing? Timing is learning how to apply the Principles of Leverage to the rotation of a line traveling through your 2 shoulders. Watch Sun Yang. His entire stroke is based upon the leverage of the timing that he rotates his body like a needle through the water. Key #4: Exercise for the student in the pool. Sit at the pool's edge and place one foot into the water. Push or pull the water with your foot, either direction works to PROVE THIS PRINCIPLE. What happens? Duh, you say! Of course, the water gets pushed by the foot, what the heck? Any person would know this? Why did I ask you to do this. Now, push or pull the water with a less attacking angle of the foot. Duh! The same thing happens. Why? Ask yourself, why does the smallest foot angle cause large water movements? OK, Master Luke, understand that MAY FORCE BE WITH YOU! Huh? "Every tiny, little, insignificant motion of a body part that interferes with your streamlines, as you move forward in the water, will create a negative force (just like your foot from the edge of the pool) TO SLOW YOU DOWN!!! Pierre, you're the best. Continue your creation of super-insightful UA-cam videos. You are a GOLD MEDAL COACH?
Wouah ! Thanks for the (long ;-)) comment !
My pleasure ! see you soon for the next video ;-)
Thanks for sharing your video & the analysis.
191cm, 58 Yrs, started swimming at 7, 25m in 13 strokes. I will give a shot at "downhill" tomorrow, and try the submerged glide.
So how was it?
Yo?
This is an awesome video with great explanation! Thank you!
Thanks for the comment !
My pleasure !
3 kicks when left arm strokes and 1 kick when right arm strokes. That is because his right arm is stronger. He wants to balance the two strokes, so that the speed doesn't fluctuate too much. Less variation of speed means less waste of energy.
Thanks for the comment ! (which makes me think)
I remember the commentator said in 2012 olympics that by the look of his casual strokes., this champion looks to set to stay on the podium for some time but he didnt quite replicate 2012. It would be good to see him face off Paltrineiri at the latter's peak. It would be a battle of the styles
Absolutely, (the different styles make the swimmers of tomorrow)
Excellent video with a detailed breakdown of world class swimming. The three beat kick on on side whilst the right arm is extended is fascinating. I take from your video he did that to keep the head submerged? The mobility in his shoulders is incredible. I began swimming as a student to tx from rowing to triathlon. I followed Terry McGlaughlins Total Immersion Swimming. I got down to 5m 15 secs for 400m and 2:27 secs for 200m in an aquathon. I did 16 stokes for 25m and when delaying catch 32-33 in a 50m pool. When normal it was more like 18/25m pool. All I recall was the coach telling me my ankle mobility was poor so my kick was ineffective. I asked how to improve. His view was tryI spend hours and 1000’s drill trying to get position/balance/catch better.
This UA-cam content was not available 20tears ago but this video on particular with a breakdown is excellent. I’d be interested in a similar video for a far shorter athlete who is great swimmer. Someone like Henri Schoeman…
Yes for the submerged head! It's noted for Schoeman, I've already been asked about it in FR ;-)
Amazing Pierre 😀 I am improving my english so, it's perfect !
And thank you for your coaching. I trust you to help me progress.
See you soon
Nathalie (a french swimmer in training)
Thx Nath !
Beautiful !
I'm totally agree ! Thx fort the comment !
Greatest swimmer I think I have seen
I'm totally agree ! Thx fort the comment !
Pretty good explanation👏🏻
Thx a lot !
I very much appreciate your videos. In depth analysis that doesn't disrespect the viewer's intelligence.
Thank you very much !
I do 10 strokes after a strong push and 1 dolphin kick. Normally I do between 15 and 18 strokes per 25m.
Funny note: using the magic hand, I find it easier to get the 10 strokes/25 m than using my regular catch.
Very good ! congratulations and for the magic palm, yes it helps to glide better and catch “better” indirectly
Incredible video... I wonder how much of this technique was intuitive vs. being taught. I've been improving my glide and dps 20 years removed from my competitive era and most of it is just "feel". But maybe with proper instruction or seeing this video in 2002 I would've been way faster.
From experience: I would say both!
This is a fantastic video and explanation o the analysis. Thanks
Thx fort the comment !
Merci pour la vidéo, et tes explications très enrichissantes sur l’intérêt de l'immersion et sa difficulté technique.
Au meilleure de ma forme, je nage encore en11/12 coups de bras par 25m en petit bain, en grand bain je passe à 27, sur 400m maximum, après ça remonte.
La dépense énergétique et quand même importante !
50 ans, nageur depuis mes 11 ans, pratique intermittente de nos jours....
Avec plaisir pour la vidéo et j'aurai bien aimé voir Sun Yang à l'échauff car ça devait être impressionnant en termes d'efficacité en nage cool ;-)
Also helps that he is 6"6 apparently. For most swimmers i think 6"4 is the ideal height. Phelps was that height. Only negative is that swimmers who are taller like yang are more prone to injuries.
why do you think? Others ideas ?(in addition to injuries)
Le coude à la hauteur de l'épaule! Je découvre!
yep !
Incredible swimmer.
Yes !
Thank you for the excellent break down, will it share with my team.
“Glide!” Is what I find myself saying most to my swimmers.
My pleasure! where do you train?
@@TheFRENCHSwimCoach I am a USS coach in California. Thank you for your great content.
@@Dadication3 thank you for making me travel ;-)
@@PierreCoachingNatation you are welcome my friend. Also, going to add the drill where you rotate palm up for an instant before continuing with the usual catch and pull to accentuate the glide in freestyle. You will be there with us in spirit at practice today in about two hours.
Tiene una excelente técnica
Yes !
i'm new to swimming, i just joined a masters team a few months ago. I started with 28 strokes/25m, and am down to 17 strokes.
Great progress, keep going!
Both Katie ledecky and Sun yang, incredible.,
I'm totally agree ! Thx fort the comment !
I like two of them very much!
@@cremelizi1323 They're both great swimmers. Like Mark Spitz, and Michael Phelps. Can't forget them.
@@joequillun7790 can't agree more
Great video, thanks. Concerning his hybrid kick, at 7.15 mark you outline 2 hypotheses as to the utility of it. I offer a 3rd hypothesis. In terms of how the kicks form his full body swim movement, Sun Yung differentiates, not all kicks are equal. Always on the side he takes a breath, he takes a single, especially powerful kick. Why? Because it starts and amplifies lateral rotation through the hips to set up the hand entry on the opposite side of the powerful kick. With great respect you missed the power benefits of lateral rotation in your explanation.
I call it the Surge Point Kick, sort of like a big swipe of the foot when your skating on a skateboard 🙂
Thanks for the comment! And indeed, the strong beat also serves to pivot to the side, you are right! Yes !
Well, I had come to the conclusion that being under water was less drag. I had thought most of that was due to 'surface tension'. I had not considered the bow wave to generate extra drag. Interesting video. My favorite stroke is the old school over arm side stroke. Only record was set in 1895 by a swimmer from the UK. He swam 100 yards in 1:02.5.
Thanks for the comment !
Great analysis. This is swimming porn. What can't be emphasised enough is the swimmer's ability to 'feel' the water.
You cannot mimic a swimmer of this calibre. The timings of each movement alone come down to milliseconds.
Follow the general principles expertly highlighted in this video. Have the confidence and faith to then develop your own inimitable style.
Listen, and work with your mind and body together to optimise your swimming efficiency.
I would add that it is advantageous to return the head to the streamline head down position as soon as the hand exits the water into the recovery phase.
Above last paragraph is in relation to the head position after breathing 😊
Yes, thx for your comment and totally agree !
Brilliant performance
Thx !
Excellent analysis and explanation of this swimmer’s great technique. Many swimmers will get more leverage with a slightly deeper pull than Sun Yang’s quick and fairly shallow pull.
Thanks for the comment !
MAGIC GLIDE + MAGIC DRUG = MAGIC WR
is this guy back swimming again??
thoughts on his exclusion from Paris? (good analysis thank you)
I think he went too far on all non-sporting aspects
@@TheFRENCHSwimCoach no need for the "non-sporting" commentary you mean.
@@getstarted5080i answer the question
A lot of coaches and textbook get it wrong that both arms needs to be at the same timing to achieve good propulsion. But at sprint level, having one arm slower than the other can compensate and smoothen the recovery. So remember, do not rush ur stroke in a sprint or race. The aim is to be very efficient.
You mean timing betweens two arms ?
@@TheFRENCHSwimCoach yes
@@maemilev I'll make a video on it one of these days
Banned for being too good.
BS he cheated. How can u be good if you're a cheat?
Dope
Well, he is swimming 2 different styles here. I do remember watching him at the Olympics some years back, and noticed that he was swimming what is now called 'gallop' style freestyle, which when I first saw it, I described it to a coach and we both noticed the swimmers were 'loping'. This is an uneven beat/cadence with the breathing side arm staying extended a bit longer than the non breathing side arm. Almost all male swimmers do this, and some like Katie Ledecky and Summer Macintosh do it, but Ariarne Titmus swims an even cadence 2, 2, 3 breathing pattern. The exception to this is with the male 50 meter sprint where the arms move pretty much opposite of each other similar to back stroke, and they don't breathe. The other style he is swimming has him breathing on every 3rd arm stroke, which I did not see him do at the Olympics. Part of the difference between these With the gallop style, this uneven cadence has you go slightly under the surface of the water, and you actually porpoise a bit. If a coach who is unfamiliar with it sees it they will say that the swimmer's head is coming up too far out of the water. If you watch Katie in the 1500, she starts with not kicking at all. Then she goes to 1 kick per cycle, then 2 kicks per cycle, and for the final lap or so, she goes to a 6 beat kick pattern. Of note here also, is that he and Katie both bend their elbows to 90 degrees or maybe even a little more. In the 50 meter sprint, the men swim with straight arm pull and recover. Lots of differences between sprinters and distance swimmers.
" The exception to this is with the male 50 meter sprint where the arms move pretty much opposite of each other similar to back stroke, and they don't breathe" : Yes, it's because they don't breathe that they are more in opposition and not in gallop.
You can swim submerge, under the surface, with this sprinter style or the gallop style.
Hmm, I don't think it is possible to go underwater with the 'windmill style of freestyle that is used in the 50 meter spring. Part of why you can do this with the gallop style is because of how the swimmer porpoises as the swim, and that uneven cadence to the stroke. You don't do any porpoising with the windmill style.
Tengo 51 años, mido 1,68m y hago 25m con 18 brazadas, puedo mantener este ritmo por 1000m, luego bajo a 20 o 21 brazadas.
Sun Yang es el mejor, ninguna ayuda extra te corrige la técnica.
Yep, thx for the com !
Please cover sprinting like 50s videos
Ok, Manaudou F ;-)
I notice his hand is open the fingers are not closed is it not better to close the hand for more pull effect ??
no, fingers slightly apart take more water (muscle relaxation helps for catch too)
So Sun Yang almost does a galup with his kick and arm rotation?
Yep, like a lot of people currently over 200 and over
Your englisch accent is quite good!
aha it's AI ! but my voice ;-)
Looks like the Total Immersion stroke
Oui, exactly. Terry was ahead of his time!
i noticed that his left elbow is lower than right one when he catches water
Thanks, I'll look at that!
11-13 stokes per 25m pool
Excellent ! congratulations
Dennis Cottrell was his coach in Australia.
And where did he learn before?
@@TheFRENCHSwimCoach
And why did he come to the
Gold Coast and kept returning until he was suspended ??
To swim with the distance freestyle coach in the world.
Ok 🏊♂️🏊♂️🇦🇺🇦🇺💪
@@andrewthomas8737 uh, that seems like a real question... i respect Cotterel don t worry 😂
He trained in China and in many other places. Sun yang is just a swimming prodigy.
@@andrewthomas8737 Jack, Fraser-James, Lochte🤣
I wonder what effect the amount of performance enhancing drugs coursing through his veins at any given time has on his in water efficiency with his stroke?
On his muscular endurance
Magic is one word to describe Sun Yang
Thanks for the comment
magic indeed without ever caught doping, unlike enhanced Aussies
@@getstarted5080 Because he smashed vials to avoid being caught...
@@surreal7963 so he wasn't caught doping then. So much for the lie.
@@getstarted5080 I didn't lie...
Dan Wiffen has a much different stroke and is the current World Champion over 1500m
Yes, I plan to analyze him!
Tôi cũng dùng kỹ thuật lao dốc với cánh tay phải vươn dài phía trước và lướt trong 3 nhịp đá chân giống như Sun Yang. Tôi có thể bơi với 32 hoặc 33 sải/ 50m dài của bể. Nhưng tôi chỉ cao 1,65m. Sải tay ngắn hơn Sun Yang gần 40cm
Good strokes /50 with 1.65 ! 🎉congrats
He’s got that P.E.D glide.
Theoretically easy and it's hard to do😮
exactly !
It's pretty obvious he simply doesn't kick during the glide phase.
Thx !
15/16 strokes per 30m.
thx
He had a pretty magical disappearing act when testers showed up, too.
There is an old saying in Chinese, tall trees catch the wind, in other words, a person in a high position is liable to be attacked.
and we are here to admire his swim😃
Yeah cheaters love to yell "witch hunt". Lance did it, Trump did it. Actual witches tho. @@leonardoli1512
this is beautiful. I'm going to stark this.
Tall trees catch the wind.❤
Love the meaning behind it.
Tested negative in every competition. Cope.
Sun Yang was never caught doping, but let's hear your comments on the one Aussie doper who will be competing in Paris (Shayna Jack).
He is NOT gliding, He is stretching and there is permanent propulsion with his stroke. You should watch his stroke more precicely!
Drive don't glide 🙂💦
watch a video of fast swimmers filmed with a fixed camera. And come back and tell me what you see...
Drive it forward💦
19 strokes per 25 yards.
Thx, you have a way to become more efficient!
he was on dope tho, but still great swimmer
San Yang is 1.90 metres tall 6 ft 3 not 5 ft 8
several sources say 1.98 but...
Many jealous people tried to discredit him although he was not caught during competition.
Yes, i have leraned many things with the comments
Lol, 8 year ban. That is an entire career. Somebody forgot to pay the right people so he would pass the drug test!
Its not jealousy. He’s a cheater period. Just like any other Olympians who got caught cheating after winning gold medals. Don’t be playing innocent that elites are natural stupid 😂
"MAGIC" is the right word, since it is another word for "trick", which in sports, is another word for "doping".
I chose the title well then!
A very good analysis if only you didn't talk like a robot.
Thanks anyway ;-)
As far as physics go, this is impossible for people 5’8” with 5’6” wingspan and 32.5” inseam for example. At least I NEVER see that type of swimmer getting shown for good form and fast swimming
how much is that? I'm French... Watch this ua-cam.com/video/a1eU_48Co6Y/v-deo.html
If you have these measures you have a big disadvantage for swimming over your peer swimmers. It means the ape-index is below 1 !!
magical steroids
It's true
Everybody knows what Sun Yang's "magic" is really about 😉
Steroids don’t help technique, unless you wish to fill me in on a new steroid that Sun was using?
whiners 🤤and losers 😪are full of lies and innuendos🥶
He has long nails😂 doesnt cut them. I wonder if theres rules for that? Can you have 5cm nails? Thats a natural paddle
these ai videos are making me so mad
Don't look then. You have this one ua-cam.com/video/Fmuo3rqpZ4k/v-deo.htmlsi=MZfEY1yqTz4DGpv0
Sun Yang technique, OK, but, 💉💉💉...
J'ai appris des choses sur ce point avec les anglophones même si je n'aime pas trop le personnage je t'avoue !
Yes the magical glide because of using steroids, that is why he got banned for 8 years.
Still better than you habibi 😂
4 years for blood doping
Irrelevant for the subject pf this video: the technique
Steroid without technique is futile. Try yourself to believe.
Stupidity is invincible 👍
That is barely even the English language
Regarde en FR
doping duck
Don't forget the steroids!
Drugs cheat, I'm not at all interested in how he swam
ok watch this ua-cam.com/video/a1eU_48Co6Y/v-deo.html
there is no doubt that he had a good catch technique, but in my opinion we should not glorify this swimmer taking in account he cheated and many swimmers condamned that.
If you read the files, it’s not as bad as it seems. Yes he shouldn’t have smashed the vial but the people taking his blood never presented proper credentials to do so. If someone random came to your house to take ur blood, wouldn’t you be suspicious and refuse a sample?
He was never proven to have been taking anything. While many swimmers currently swimming right now have served time for taking stuff before.....
Everyone hopes. Some just dun get caught
The guy is a drug cheat. Couldn’t beat anyone without drugs. Why show a cheat? Delete this video please.
Drugs (or not) don't change the technique
While CAS has now banned Sun, the tribunal also found there was no evidence the Chinese swimmer had engaged in doping activity and should, therefore, keep his world titles and gold medals..
PS. I bet he can beat you at any distance.
his best skill is super druggggggggggggg!
If everyone drug that could swim like him, then it would be so easy to be a top swimmer and break world records. Isn't?
I've never know swimming is that kind of easy thing until you told me that. It's "fascinating". Isn't?
The reason to how Sun Yang & any other swimmer can swim fast and efficient is...they are not triatheles.
Indeed