Classified T-90M Documents Leaked!

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  • Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
  • Russian T-90M and T-80BVM tank manuals have been leaked, and there is actually quite a lot of interesting stuff in them, some information that sheds the light on some stuff we were not sure about, and some confirming what we already knew. Surprisingly it wasn’t War Thunder’s fault for these getting leaked this time...
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    Outro: "face away" - svard

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  • @chrisbacon3071
    @chrisbacon3071 Місяць тому +5240

    (Classified documents get leaked)
    The internet: WAR THUNDER NOOO!!!
    Warthunder: what?
    The internet: Sorry force of habit.

    • @TacitusKilgore-b5g
      @TacitusKilgore-b5g Місяць тому +204

      that's EXACTLY what i assumed

    • @petermikus2363
      @petermikus2363 Місяць тому +100

      I mean there was a leak for the F-35 lightning recently.

    • @DarkSoul1992
      @DarkSoul1992 Місяць тому +14

      Yes exactly like this lmao

    • @paint4r
      @paint4r Місяць тому +51

      The documents were still posted on the war thunder forum lol

    • @dr2d2
      @dr2d2 Місяць тому +6

      Same here

  • @Norrikan
    @Norrikan Місяць тому +2238

    _"Surprisingly, it wasn't War Thunder's fault for things getting leaked this time."_ - Well, to my understanding it still was a War Thunder player that dumped the manual, just not on the official forums for once.

    • @danishayne1
      @danishayne1 Місяць тому +300

      *military stuff gets leaked*
      Internet: it all war thunder players?
      War thunder: always has been

    • @cloroxbleach9222
      @cloroxbleach9222 Місяць тому +209

      To be fair, you'd be hard pressed to find a tank enthusiast that does NOT play war thunder in the past or present.
      Let's just be thankful the leak isn't JUST for war thunder balancing

    • @usurp795
      @usurp795 Місяць тому +21

      ​@@danishayne1you do know that before your little games there are plenty of people who are into war and war vehicles/equipment. The worst part of about these games is it makes it harder to find rare things or when you just want to research or look something up you get flooded with videogame nonsense instead of facts and history. It's pretty annoying and people have been finding information like this for decades before video games.

    • @smokeyhoodoo
      @smokeyhoodoo Місяць тому +57

      Install the game boomer, it's free

    • @wargamingrefugee9065
      @wargamingrefugee9065 Місяць тому +36

      @@usurp795 Just in case you don't know. To exclude search results, place a "-" in front of the search term you don't want to include. For example: -dogs or -airplane or -APC.

  • @Loudward__
    @Loudward__ Місяць тому +3291

    Of to the war thunder forums we go!

    • @phileashuang240
      @phileashuang240 Місяць тому +25

      Daboi

    • @ankurar6492
      @ankurar6492 Місяць тому +45

      You clearly didn’t watch the whole video because there changes would make nō changes to the tanks in the game.

    • @marc6719
      @marc6719 Місяць тому +10

      ​​@@ankurar6492certainly appeared first again in War Thunder form Not ist very interessant

    • @Reallyidktbh
      @Reallyidktbh Місяць тому +17

      It's already on Reddit.

    • @ralphyreece4687
      @ralphyreece4687 Місяць тому +13

      Downloaded it yesterday off prephole

  • @tonyl7286
    @tonyl7286 Місяць тому +2345

    Of course it was from a forum
    CIA: "Who are you?"
    War thunder+Online military forums: "I'm you but stronger."

    • @Reallyidktbh
      @Reallyidktbh Місяць тому +74

      The power of open-source intelligence.

    • @trazyntheinfinite9895
      @trazyntheinfinite9895 Місяць тому

      ​@@Reallyidktbhthe power the need to e peen.

    • @firesb7791
      @firesb7791 Місяць тому +89

      ​@@Reallyidktbhmore like the power of internet autism and human pettiness

    • @nakazaki1254
      @nakazaki1254 Місяць тому

      Why would cia leak the information they have 🤡
      Especially a shitty tank

    • @arvedludwig3584
      @arvedludwig3584 Місяць тому

      Nah, they probably stole a T90M before the war. I mean west Germany got its hand on a brand new T80 before the wall came down.

  • @user-dm7ql4sh3z
    @user-dm7ql4sh3z Місяць тому +1496

    F15, F35, T80bvm and T90m leaks in a single week. War Thunder community never stops grinding.

    • @SpookyGrim
      @SpookyGrim Місяць тому

      F15 and the F35 docs was leaked?

    • @RasyidNazar
      @RasyidNazar Місяць тому +81

      They are in the mood!

    • @johnmikezstaca4307
      @johnmikezstaca4307 Місяць тому +82

      F35?

    • @Aw3someGYE
      @Aw3someGYE Місяць тому +166

      ​@@johnmikezstaca4307Happened like yesterday 😂

    • @pandibbarman
      @pandibbarman Місяць тому

      What kind of information though how to shift gears? ☠️​@@Aw3someGYE

  • @abhilashyadav2274
    @abhilashyadav2274 Місяць тому +1033

    Wake up Babe . New War Thunder update has arrived.
    The update .........

    • @shawn7889
      @shawn7889 Місяць тому +13

      Slight update to weight? Hell nah, that's a Russian vehicle

    • @Shin-lh9ih
      @Shin-lh9ih Місяць тому +1

      r/wooosh

    • @giftrichard4745
      @giftrichard4745 Місяць тому

      The tracking system ​@@shawn7889

    • @Cnupoc
      @Cnupoc Місяць тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @kilokai21
      @kilokai21 Місяць тому +6

      @@shawn7889 T-90M mass on War Thunder has been 51.0 t

  • @hivecasts
    @hivecasts Місяць тому +114

    Best guess is that 1250HP engines on BVMs are for new production tanks and 1100HP for old T80B/BVs that are being upgraded to BVM standard.

    • @blebeebum7996
      @blebeebum7996 Місяць тому +7

      All t80bvm are upgrades of T80B/BV, so I don't think that this is the reason.

    • @hivecasts
      @hivecasts Місяць тому +6

      @@blebeebum7996 Current ones yes, but Russia has restarted production of BVMs in February (as well as FAB 3000s and such other things at the same time).

    • @ineedapharmists
      @ineedapharmists Місяць тому

      ​@@blebeebum7996an upgrade of an upgrade of an upgrade

    • @horvathrichard862
      @horvathrichard862 Місяць тому +3

      @@hivecasts Can you provide source for this? I only found that there were announcements in 2023 that they would restart production, but was estimated to take several years before any newly produced T-80 could be completed.

    • @Cam64viper
      @Cam64viper Місяць тому

      T-80 and T-80B tended to use GTD-1000 engine, around 1100 HP. T-80U uses GTD-1250 engine, around 1250 HP. I wonder if they're replacing the less reliable engines with the newer mode reliable ones?

  • @xIkkito
    @xIkkito Місяць тому +137

    War Thunder: write that DOWN! write that DOWN!

    • @The_whales
      @The_whales Місяць тому +1

      Also war thunder: makes a premium tank w/ the same armor as a non premium have better protection

    • @BARelement
      @BARelement Місяць тому

      @@The_whalesKVT, and ClickBait has better protection?

  • @34225540
    @34225540 Місяць тому +368

    The fact that these manuals are under "ЕСКД" numbers says, that these are not classified....
    Moreover, it's just a manuals, there CAN'T be anything classified
    Exported tanks comes with these docs

    • @BayerTE1
      @BayerTE1 Місяць тому +56

      It can still be "export restricted" which is practically the same for civilians anyway.

    • @34225540
      @34225540 Місяць тому +60

      I'll repeat, it's just manual, which can't contain anything classified. As an engineer i work with technical documentation, including military

    • @Scriptedviolince
      @Scriptedviolince Місяць тому +27

      The US government has a number of classifications. The fighter jet leaks are of "controlled unclassified information" which is information that is unclassified but requires safeguarding for whatever reason. These include stuff like engineering manuals but also stuff like Personally Identifying information and HIPAA protected medical records.

    • @34225540
      @34225540 Місяць тому +22

      @Scriptedviolince in russia, user manuals are not even "for service use only"
      Exactly this one has no any stamp of use and "expluatation documents" mostly always "open"

    • @Radbot776
      @Radbot776 Місяць тому +17

      Ukraine captured a t90m in early 2023 or late 22 I can’t remember
      It was fully intact and had ammo in it
      There’s no way this is secret
      Plus this tank is just a nicer t72

  • @user-zv4jf8ag8p
    @user-zv4jf8ag8p Місяць тому +518

    Pretty sure all the intelligence services, who really wanted to, already had these documents for a while. Leaking it to public will only affect how accurate these tanks represented in games.

    • @NineSeptims
      @NineSeptims Місяць тому +85

      Yep it's incredibly easy for intel agencies to get this info. What is more hard to get is specific technologies that only the engineers would know.

    • @jarate8076
      @jarate8076 Місяць тому +1

      >It most likely
      >They probably
      >It might've
      >it is probable
      >They likely
      >It's nearly definite
      >I'm sure that
      you're a little runt

    • @getoutofherestalker2441
      @getoutofherestalker2441 Місяць тому +29

      That is what I was thinking, and I am pretty sure they learned most of the stuff from captured vehicles in Ukraine anyway, in case the intelligence services didn't get them before

    • @spamstabber
      @spamstabber Місяць тому

      Exactly, the F-35 and F-15 leaks were from a Russian pilot on telegram, if he had access to the documents then everyone else that needs access does too.

    • @Saufs0ldat
      @Saufs0ldat Місяць тому +32

      With this being a manual for the crew and hundreds of crews as well as thousands of other personnel with access, it's really not that big a secret. I bet they have conscripts print it out or just send it to people digitally.

  • @arturpereira5428
    @arturpereira5428 Місяць тому +527

    HELL YEAH!!! AT LEAST THIS TIME IT WASNT US THE ONES WHO LEAKED STUFF!!!

    • @foundationgamer9771
      @foundationgamer9771 Місяць тому +30

      Thug Shaker Central: 'Am I a joke to you?'

    • @Elyron2004
      @Elyron2004 Місяць тому +21

      it was a war thunder player

    • @arturpereira5428
      @arturpereira5428 Місяць тому +5

      @@Elyron2004 no way . . . For real?

    • @vguyver2
      @vguyver2 Місяць тому +6

      Actually the F15 and F35 manuals were also leaked this week.

    • @smoketinytom
      @smoketinytom Місяць тому +1

      I bet he plays War Thunder, so we can still attribute this to you. :D

  • @Bren.nto6971
    @Bren.nto6971 Місяць тому +34

    CIA agent : "sir, we managed to obtain the enemy's secret!"
    President: "good job, but where the agent?"
    CIA agent: " our agents stuck in internet cafe, playing wt😅"

    • @kuroneko9710
      @kuroneko9710 20 днів тому

      Oh, oh... Come on! Nobody is interested in T-90s. Even Chinese guys... They failed to prove their worth in Ukraine.

    • @Bynk333
      @Bynk333 20 днів тому

      @@kuroneko9710 They failed to prove their worth in Ukraine. What tank dont? Abrams , Leopard, all the same! :D

  • @sansgrafnie2593
    @sansgrafnie2593 Місяць тому +63

    it was a war thunder guy who posted it, byt not on a war thunder forum because it would be taken down too quickly

    • @bik3r230
      @bik3r230 Місяць тому +3

      Every tanker plays earthunder

    • @TheForklifter
      @TheForklifter Місяць тому +1

      It wasn't a warthunder guy. He just reposted them. It was some Russian forum

  • @yspear_
    @yspear_ Місяць тому +207

    To the WT forums you go

  • @Vol4ok_SP
    @Vol4ok_SP Місяць тому +86

    Я не думаю, что в руководстве по эксплуатации танка, предназначенном для обычного экипажа будет содержаться супер секретная информация в духе "как изготовить Реликт в домашних условиях"

    • @lavrentiy911
      @lavrentiy911 Місяць тому +21

      Об этом в видео и говорится

    • @Neukend
      @Neukend Місяць тому +7

      ну именно это чел и сказал под конец видео

    • @Australiaisupsidedown
      @Australiaisupsidedown Місяць тому

      no shit

    • @1984IRL
      @1984IRL Місяць тому +4

      @@Neukend Какой тогда смысл делать про это видео. Все и так прекрасно знали что Т90 это просто модифицированный Т72.

    • @oo-xb6gv
      @oo-xb6gv Місяць тому +1

      ⁠@@Australiaisupsidedown That isn't mentioned nor implied in the video 💀 what a sad life you must have to spend your days being an ah online 😂

  • @SargeNuR
    @SargeNuR Місяць тому +36

    On the RU secret documents, a secrecy stamp is placed in the upper right corner, and below it is a list item of the order, in accordance with which the document is classified. I don't see this in the documents. Therefore, the document does not carry any SECRET and is not classified

    • @AndRei-yc3ti
      @AndRei-yc3ti Місяць тому +1

      This is classified as an ЕБСМ document which is non-classified
      Seems to be an exploitation manual for the crew

  • @starling6438
    @starling6438 Місяць тому +28

    Как механик - водитель танка Т-90М (2020) могу сказать, что никакой автоматической трансмиссии не было на тот момент. Кондиционер так же не работал. Но это была партия первых 20 серийных машин. Но люди с УВЗ, которые помогали нам освоить технику говорили, что изначально планировалось установка новой автоматической кпп с повышенной скоростью заднего хода и за место рычагов управления был штурвал.
    Еще одна вещь: Не смотря на указанную максимальную скорость в инструкции, в реальности она чуть выше. Танк разгонял до 70км/ч и чувствовалось, что потенциал еще имеется, но был риск потерять управление, т.к на асфальте зацепа гусениц нет.

    • @TheMrKotmanul
      @TheMrKotmanul Місяць тому +2

      этот "слив" на русском вообще существует или только красиво написанные штуки на англ.? Я просто рили ничего найти не смог и пока это как-то очень потешно выглядит со стороны)
      Единственное что таки нашел это вроде как руководство по эксплуатации т80бвм на реддите, но и к тому есть вопросы. Там местами попадаются старые странички от старого руководства от БМки вроде, которые в сети уже давно. Но хз мож так и должно быть, я в подробности не вдавался.

    • @AlexJeroy
      @AlexJeroy Місяць тому +1

      @@TheMrKotmanul да нет в реальности никакой утечки - увы.. но это с высокой долей вероятности фейк.

  • @tirushone6446
    @tirushone6446 Місяць тому +148

    they expect the manuals to get leaked so of cause they don't include any sensiti-
    guy who leaked the chellenger 2 manual: I am about to do what's called a pro-gamer move

    • @TheForklifter
      @TheForklifter Місяць тому +9

      Challenger 2 leak didn't contain much all too interesting

    • @itsuk1_1
      @itsuk1_1 Місяць тому +8

      chally2 manual is about the same, it was just bongs that freak out, they are known to be over reacting, also they don't have much tank to begin without the need to mention their tank are trash.

    • @mikeycraig8970
      @mikeycraig8970 Місяць тому

      Plus Challenger 2 is a 90s tank, being replaced by the Cr3. Not a lot you can do with 30 year old info 😂

    • @STRYKER1467
      @STRYKER1467 Місяць тому

      Yeah the thing is if you upload these files to your favorite game forums atleast the police will not put you in custody since they are russian tanks.

    • @eibolsoe
      @eibolsoe Місяць тому +3

      @@mikeycraig8970 challenger 3 is just a refurbished challenger 2 hull with a new turret.

  • @aliancemd
    @aliancemd Місяць тому +36

    0:52 “51t +2%” - the “+2%” weight is when you switch from the North Korean team to the American team

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 Місяць тому +2

      2% out of 51T is over one ton... 340kg person would not be able to claim to any tank(even American one)...

    • @ToxicJelly9
      @ToxicJelly9 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@Bialy_1 the guy was joking

  • @A_random_idiot15
    @A_random_idiot15 Місяць тому +108

    Day 7 asking redeffect to talk about the is-7 being restored

  • @GM-xk1nw
    @GM-xk1nw Місяць тому +524

    please don't be war thunder.
    edit: few

    • @foundationgamer9771
      @foundationgamer9771 Місяць тому +53

      Hate to be that guy, but it's 'phew'
      Edit: Why are you guys making a chain of this 😭

    • @Na_Turek
      @Na_Turek Місяць тому +19

      I hate to be that guy, but it's 'phew'.

    • @chatter2765
      @chatter2765 Місяць тому +15

      I hate to be that guy, but it's 'phew'.

    • @catamogus4457
      @catamogus4457 Місяць тому +13

      I hate to be that guy, but it's 'phew'.

    • @Blizzard64267
      @Blizzard64267 Місяць тому +14

      I love to be that guy, it's phew.

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte Місяць тому +86

    Time to find out if Object 187 was still superior choice long term...

    • @mrmakhno3030
      @mrmakhno3030 Місяць тому +4

      It is the superior choice.

    • @krunchie101
      @krunchie101 Місяць тому +4

      ​@Mal101M we can still compare the theoretical specs to t90 reality.

    • @Klovaneer
      @Klovaneer Місяць тому +1

      The only real differences would be lengthened hull (could accommodate larger transmission?) and revised upper glacis that eliminated the driver's weak spot and that would come with about 2 extra tons.

    • @BlackWolf9988
      @BlackWolf9988 Місяць тому

      ​@@Klovaneer Did it still have the horrible reverse speed?

    • @marty2129
      @marty2129 Місяць тому +3

      @@BlackWolf9988 dunno... The Object 187 was tested with both the UVZ diesel and the turbine AFAIK (dunno which version of the hull though, there were several configurations both with the "classic" sloped front and the "Type-96A-style"/"Object 195-style" short glacis with composite slab) and I imagine the turbine was taken from a T-80U direcly, so the turbine version would have probably the same transmission as T-80 variants... as for the diesel, I am not sure what transmission it had, and if there was any other variant (I would imagine there might have been one with KMDB's 6TDF too, but as far as prototypes go none seem to have that one and Malyshev plant had different priorities around the time 187 was developed as it was responsible for the T-80U, T-80UD and the development of Object 490 and 477)...

  • @JohnAnonym
    @JohnAnonym Місяць тому +58

    Everyone: WAR THUNDER!!!!
    War Thunder: WHAT?
    Everyone: Why did you leak those documents?
    War Thunder: Just Because military documents get leaked, doesn't mean I did it.
    Everyone: ...
    War Thunder: I mean, I did leak military documents, but it wasn't me this time.
    Everyone: ... The Documents about T-90M?
    War Thunder: ... Just the F-15 and F-35...

    • @RasyidNazar
      @RasyidNazar Місяць тому +1

      They didnt get blame this time , but get blamed for the other shit they do😂

    • @JohnAnonym
      @JohnAnonym Місяць тому +7

      @@RasyidNazar I swear, at this point any game company could just leak secret documents and somehow, by proxy, War Thunder get's all the blame

    • @RasyidNazar
      @RasyidNazar Місяць тому

      @@JohnAnonym absolutely lmao, my first thought it was war thunder player who leak it😂

  • @michaelsnyder3871
    @michaelsnyder3871 Місяць тому +6

    As the video covered the automatic transmission, there was a notation that the tank had to be brought to a stop before engaging reverse from forward or shifting from reverse to forward.

  • @sweetnerevar7030
    @sweetnerevar7030 Місяць тому +16

    If it’s not on warthunder forums it’s not an authentic leak

  • @Vishesh-ud3rl
    @Vishesh-ud3rl Місяць тому +22

    4:40
    No pig was harmed in the making of this video

    • @christopherchartier3017
      @christopherchartier3017 Місяць тому +2

      Good lord let it go

    • @viktoriyaserebryakov2755
      @viktoriyaserebryakov2755 11 днів тому

      @@christopherchartier3017 Why on Earth would I elect to forgot when a l"ar l"ed then refused to admit to what he did? So he can l"e to me again?

  • @handsomeivan1980
    @handsomeivan1980 Місяць тому +46

    T-90M with 3rd gen thermals would be fantastic in WT

    • @aaroncruz9181
      @aaroncruz9181 Місяць тому +28

      “Russian bias is real”

    • @BobbyB1928
      @BobbyB1928 Місяць тому +10

      Everybodys gangster untill you realise the Relict modules had their explosive replaced with rubber because Russian corruption :(

    • @bastikolaski8111
      @bastikolaski8111 Місяць тому +57

      ​@BobbyB1928 thats a propaganda lie from 2022. And you still believe it 🤣

    • @TheNicestPig
      @TheNicestPig Місяць тому +44

      ​@@BobbyB1928 bro is stuck in 2022 propaganda 💀

    • @ThorSuzuki1
      @ThorSuzuki1 Місяць тому

      @@bastikolaski8111 There are videos of it..

  • @juusolatva
    @juusolatva Місяць тому +35

    War Thunder has both T-80BVM and T-90M, so it's probably only a matter of time until the manuals find their way to the forums

    • @timsmetana9094
      @timsmetana9094 Місяць тому +21

      I also have t-72Б3 manual with a lot of images

    • @rayray_vhnb8534
      @rayray_vhnb8534 Місяць тому +2

      @@timsmetana9094 💀

    • @Erusean_pilot
      @Erusean_pilot Місяць тому +8

      @@timsmetana9094can i see it 🥺

    • @Bruno-G
      @Bruno-G Місяць тому

      Pretty please? ​@@timsmetana9094

    • @Mgaming61
      @Mgaming61 Місяць тому

      @@timsmetana9094 affirmative, contacting the FSB

  • @flyingbird5449
    @flyingbird5449 Місяць тому +102

    NO WAY IT WASENT WAR THUNDER FORUM BOYS 😭😭😭

    • @officer_miller
      @officer_miller Місяць тому +18

      to my knowledge it was a war thunder player but this time it was leaked somewhere else

    • @flyingbird5449
      @flyingbird5449 Місяць тому +5

      @@officer_miller i knew it

    • @isigo483
      @isigo483 Місяць тому

      As a community we failed leaking it first 😢

  • @Trve_Kvlt
    @Trve_Kvlt Місяць тому +6

    Something to note about the T-80BVM, according to the manual, the tank can't carry more than 14 of the Svinets projectile (3BM48, 3BM60 and 3BM59) due to carousel configuration. From the manual itself: "Twenty-eight shots, in any ratio by type, are placed in the conveyor of the loading mechanism, while it is prohibited to place 3VBM22, 3VBM23 rounds in adjacent trays. 3VBM22, 3VBM23 rounds should be placed in the MZ conveyor, alternating them with cumulative rounds. The remining nine shots, placed in a non-mechanized stowage, should be equipped only with high-explosive fragmentation and cumulative, of which five shells and seven cartridges are placed in the tank-rack, two shells on the bottom of the tank-rack, two shells and two cartridges - at the motor partitions between the middle fuel tanks." Of course 3VBM22 and 23 is not to be confused with 3BM22 and 3BM23 (3VBM9), which entered service in 1976.
    Edit: Corrected ammunition terminology.
    Edit 2: Analysis of ammunition load in captured/destroyed/damaged Russian tanks has shown that most crews are being equipped with 3BM46 "Mango", which entered service in 1986 and is a tungsten penetrator. As opposed to the newer Svinets and Svinets-1 which are depleted uranium, and the Svinets-2 which is a longer Tungsten Alloy penetrator.

    • @spyderDFX
      @spyderDFX Місяць тому

      It is digit 3, not letter Z (З)

    • @Trve_Kvlt
      @Trve_Kvlt Місяць тому

      @@spyderDFX I'm aware, this was copied from an AI translation of the manual. I'll go back and edit it.

    • @ericquiabazza2608
      @ericquiabazza2608 Місяць тому

      There is ALSO to concider:
      This is what could/expect to have equiped.
      Dosnt mean it Should or WILL.
      An example is Ammo.
      Is the tank is expected to be neutralize or go into a light combat the Ammo carry will be less or diferent.
      Same with armor and equipment.
      If using camouflaged, less amor, is heavy armored less extra ammo.

  • @thegenericguy8309
    @thegenericguy8309 Місяць тому +2

    I think it makes sense that it's below 50 tons empty in particular because 50 tons has long been the hard limit for Soviet and Russian tanks for logistics reasons, as the per car weight their rail network can consistently support, making a combat weight of over 50 tons perfectly fine as long as it's below that for transport

  • @fly_pie_1172
    @fly_pie_1172 Місяць тому +30

    i was legit convinced this was from war thunder again

  • @ReviveHF
    @ReviveHF Місяць тому +38

    Few days ago it's the F-15EX, now it's the T-90M.

    • @jakubvanek7250
      @jakubvanek7250 Місяць тому +7

      it was F-15SA

    • @dakromis
      @dakromis Місяць тому +1

      Brother, the e-publishing department of the airforce has had these documents available for you to download since 2020, all you have to do is go on their website, nothing has been leaked!

    • @Random_JapGuy
      @Random_JapGuy Місяць тому

      ​@@dakromisNothing is safe anymore. Someone will leak it.

  • @antimatter4733
    @antimatter4733 Місяць тому +6

    The weight is definitely not increased from 48-52 tons just because of crew ammo and fuel. Let's calculate that for a second. The tank has 1200L of fuel, so let's say 1500kg. Plus another 200kg for 3 crew members then for the ammo it would be 43 rounds at around 15kg per round so let's say around 500kg there.
    That works out to 2.2 tons. So basically you're missing almost 2 tons of weight.
    So, very likely the T90M has 2 tons of additional armor, either in the turret or front of the hull.

    • @robertpatrick3350
      @robertpatrick3350 Місяць тому +2

      That fuel calc is out by 500kg! Diesel is a lot lighter per m3….

    • @cuongle7990
      @cuongle7990 Місяць тому +4

      You're missing a lot of equipment on your list. There are tools for maintenance, camping, repairs, pioneering tools, spare tracks, spare wheels, etc. and also a lot of machine gun ammo. Outside of fuel, there are also a few hundred kilos of lubricant, cooling fluid, hydraulic fluid, etc.

    • @antimatter4733
      @antimatter4733 Місяць тому +4

      @@cuongle7990 you think a t90m carries 2 tons of oil, hydraulic fluid, tools and parts? Absolutely not. The oil capacity on a t90M is around 40-50kg, coolant and hydraulic fluids are likely similar or less. Therefore the total of fluids adds up to under 150kg. Still 1650-2650kg of weight unaccounted for (because of the +2% next to the weight)
      I hope you understand how much weight that is, that's the weight of an average sedan to the weight of an SUV and you're claiming that's just the weight of parts? At most it carries a couple of extra road wheels and a few tracks, that's absolutely not 2 tons. Maybe another 100kg of parts if we're being generous and another 50kg of tools again if we're being generous.
      You're still at MINIMUM 1500kg off the weight. At maximum you're 2500kg off the weight. That's the equivalent of the M1 depleted uranium armor package, the only logical explanation is that it's an armor upgrade, which makes complete sense. Just because Russia didn't openly state they upgraded the armor doesn't mean they didn't, they upgraded every other system in the tank and you think they didn't add a bit more hull despite that being one of the easiest upgrades they could have done (given the hull composite armor is already designed to be replaced and armor is much easier to make than any other component on the T90m)

    • @antimatter4733
      @antimatter4733 Місяць тому +2

      @@robertpatrick3350 ohh, I just assumed it was more dense than water, okay so the actual weight deficit is probably more like 2000-3000kg

  • @RADkate
    @RADkate Місяць тому +32

    NO DUMB DRAMA
    JUST STRAIGHT LEAKED DOCUMENTS
    🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

  • @ianjardine7324
    @ianjardine7324 Місяць тому +3

    Those wieghts in the manuals likely don't include the weight of additional armour packages as those are constantly being changed in both design and materials used as such it's simpler to issue the crews withup to date manuals specific to each variant as they are fitted especially when multiple designs may be in use simultaneously. With each armour manual detailing the characteristics of the fitted armour and any effect on the vehicles handling characteristics. Any armour detailed in the vehicle manual should be considered the minimum armour configuration and was likely inaccurate as soon as it was printed.

  • @korana6308
    @korana6308 Місяць тому +4

    1 I don't know who thought that it was 48 tons. As pretty much all of the official data stated 50 and 52 tons at full load.
    2 Just because gears didn't increase, doesn't mean that the reverse speed didn't increase. It achieves higher reverse speed with higher engine torque in turbo.
    3 I don't know who though that Russia was using Sosna U here, as it was common knowledge and the entire purpose of Proryv 3 to switch to domestic thermals...
    4 Maximum speed clearly states - not less, in the manual. The maximum speed of T80 is 80km/h
    etc etc etc all of this stuff is known already.
    ps T90 46 tons, T90A 48 tons, T90M 50 tons. ( 52 in full gear with APS)

    • @alextell7019
      @alextell7019 Місяць тому

      Reverse speed would only increase if it was torque limited originally which we know it isnt because it can go much faster in forward gears.

  • @unyu-cyberstorm64
    @unyu-cyberstorm64 Місяць тому +1

    “A fully combat loaded tank weighs more than (one that is empty)”
    Wow, who would have guessed that?!

  • @JustAnNPC69
    @JustAnNPC69 Місяць тому +7

    I apologize for blaming War Thunder immediately 🙏🏻

  • @w0lfgm
    @w0lfgm Місяць тому +4

    The MS is export variant and also older. Expected 50 tones but 52 is still reasonable.

  • @madlad1511
    @madlad1511 Місяць тому +5

    The war thunder community needs to pick up the slack, i cant believe were falling behind someone else

  • @chaitanyakumar9626
    @chaitanyakumar9626 23 дні тому +1

    After a few weeks.... War thunder T-90 update.... Includes update T-90 arnament, new upgrade armour, new driving mechanics....

  • @xendk
    @xendk Місяць тому +2

    The entire tank have been leaked

  • @thomaswillians5714
    @thomaswillians5714 Місяць тому +3

    Nice video! I see some comments, articles and videos about the tests of a new 152 mm gun for the T-14 Armata, and also that the tank is receiving some other upgrades, based in the current conflict. Any information about that?

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul Місяць тому +4

      Why waste time on vaporware?

    • @AmosKito
      @AmosKito Місяць тому +2

      upgrades? bro that thing is the biggest hot piece of garbage, it hasnt even made it to the front-lines

  • @Limescale12
    @Limescale12 Місяць тому +3

    Well, it's still a formidable war machine. That, I'll never doubt

  • @fridaycaliforniaa236
    @fridaycaliforniaa236 Місяць тому +2

    Just when I typed "War Thunder" in Google...

  • @jcy089
    @jcy089 Місяць тому +1

    I love how military manuals read also like regular Ikea ones

  • @Intranetusa
    @Intranetusa Місяць тому +11

    If War Thunder players all came together, they could form a powerful military all on their own.

  • @irfanhafizhbuntoro3772
    @irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 Місяць тому +22

    So, will we get a buff or nerf?

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa Місяць тому +11

      T90m with 3gen termal.😂

    • @annguyenlehoang7779
      @annguyenlehoang7779 Місяць тому +5

      I think a slight buff

    • @TheNicestPig
      @TheNicestPig Місяць тому +11

      @@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 slight buff with 3rd gen thermal. War Thunder actually got the 51t weight correct

    • @vethenoir
      @vethenoir Місяць тому

      i dont think gaijin can legally use these

    • @retardmoguss
      @retardmoguss Місяць тому

      @@vethenoir its a training manual, they probably can.

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 Місяць тому +2

    World: War Thunder how many times do we have to tell you!?
    War thunder: it wasnt me, I swear!

  • @Paul_Sergeyev
    @Paul_Sergeyev Місяць тому +4

    *War thunder victory theme*

  • @DarkStalker09
    @DarkStalker09 День тому +1

    Wait so the bag ERA on the side isn’t supposed to absorb a point blank APFSDS round from an Abrams.

  • @davidaustin5622
    @davidaustin5622 13 днів тому

    Reactor online, sensors online, weapons online. All systems nominal.

  • @bruhmoment3741
    @bruhmoment3741 Місяць тому +4

    i found it, i am not sure abaout the legitimacy of the OP though. This guy apparently also leaked other tank manuals.

  • @MichaelGreen-dm2ov
    @MichaelGreen-dm2ov Місяць тому +6

    New Red Effect video and I'm off work today. Thanks God.

  • @datnguyen21040
    @datnguyen21040 Місяць тому +1

    “Write that down,write that down”
    -WarThunder devs,Gaijin

  • @jayburn00
    @jayburn00 Місяць тому +2

    Wow, not war thunder this time, i am surprised.

  • @collinarmon
    @collinarmon Місяць тому +5

    Warthunder wildin

  • @KGAnims
    @KGAnims Місяць тому +17

    "Documents has been leaked"
    My man, the tank itself has been leaked and taken away from battlefield for study!

  • @cosmothefemboyproto
    @cosmothefemboyproto 7 днів тому

    This could be useful in combat but also very useful to make the T-90 tank more realistic in war thunder. Seems like a massive win to me.

  • @Best_Quality_Copper
    @Best_Quality_Copper Місяць тому +1

    I did my part and posted them on the WT reddit and forum. Unfortunately the mods were active.....

  • @dust_gale3108
    @dust_gale3108 Місяць тому +7

    Only 1 reverse gear doesn't necessarily mean that it only has 5 kms reverse.
    The gearbox settings are the key

    • @Klovaneer
      @Klovaneer Місяць тому +2

      You mean the gear ratio for a given gear. But if you can have only 1 reverse gear you have make it as low as the first forward. T-80 gets away with higher ratios because of the turbine's incredible torque.

    • @SteelheadCrusher
      @SteelheadCrusher Місяць тому

      And there's this thing called a throttle.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 Місяць тому +13

      @@SteelheadCrusher There is this thing called 51Tons of your mass... and you need to use that reverse gear even when you ended up in some hole that you failed to see because visibility from tank is poor when you are driving with closed hatch...

    • @Klovaneer
      @Klovaneer Місяць тому

      @@Bialy_1 Yeah but now they can have rear view cameras.

  • @edgeldine3499
    @edgeldine3499 Місяць тому +4

    It didn't get released on war thunder because of the Russian bias lol

    • @plex2109
      @plex2109 Місяць тому +1

      No it was because the dude in reddit who leaked it (T-90AK) didn't wanna post it in there because he'd get banned and it'd get deleted almost immediately

  • @zippytrippy3041
    @zippytrippy3041 Місяць тому +1

    I immediately expected it to be WarThunder forums but it wasn't 😂

  • @bezahltersystemtroll5055
    @bezahltersystemtroll5055 Місяць тому +1

    this is becoming funnier and funnier with every time

  • @alexnderrrthewoke4479
    @alexnderrrthewoke4479 Місяць тому +26

    One of best tanks in the world

    • @solastorm7
      @solastorm7 Місяць тому +6

      is there still one left?

    • @alexnderrrthewoke4479
      @alexnderrrthewoke4479 Місяць тому +12

      @@solastorm7 plenty and more in production.

    • @oofoof1206
      @oofoof1206 Місяць тому +12

      @@solastorm7im not surprised that people are confused by the t90, because you have western news that say “ hey look a drone destroyed t90m the best tank in the world” , but also say “russia is in such shambles that they only have t60 tanks left”

    • @user-zv4jf8ag8p
      @user-zv4jf8ag8p Місяць тому

      Is not a subject of this video)))

    • @Ekdrink
      @Ekdrink Місяць тому +6

      Yet it was taken out by Bradley’s with no TOWs? Huh

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 Місяць тому +5

    Re: tank weights. Various authors conflate metric and standard and short tons, then translate to their preferred system of measure. This confuses the weight issue. For instance: Panther weighed roughly 45 metric tons . . . so USA writers have a tendency to undervalue its weight in shirt tons. Panther's weight in short tons is 49.5. The same thing happens with Tiger 1. Is it 56 metric tons or 61.6 short tons? A lot of folks aren't sure . . . I bet the same thing happens pretty often, especially where authors and primary sources don't specify.

    • @jonny2954
      @jonny2954 Місяць тому +7

      No, that's an exclusively American problem. Europe uses metric. Absolutely no confusion over Panther or Tiger 1 weight over here.

    • @worldoftancraft
      @worldoftancraft Місяць тому +2

      peak Ameriquan moment

    • @antred11
      @antred11 Місяць тому

      Americans and their friggin' freedom units. 🙄

  • @leedex
    @leedex 23 дні тому

    1:29 4 km/h. No retreat. Just forward with your comrades 😂

  • @ZhaoYun3154
    @ZhaoYun3154 Місяць тому +1

    Seems like the T-90M is a very impressive vehicle, although they really should upgrade the reverse gearing so that the vehicle can drive much faster in reverse. It really shouldn't be that expensive to upgrade the gearboxes on all of the T-90s or at least the units serving on the front lines.

  • @mowabb
    @mowabb Місяць тому +4

    Best tank in Ukraine right now

    • @yourlocalboaty
      @yourlocalboaty Місяць тому +2

      Depends in what areas.

    • @dejectedfrogcat2840
      @dejectedfrogcat2840 Місяць тому

      Literally achieving new heights everyday

    • @user-vt4je9ym6h
      @user-vt4je9ym6h Місяць тому +1

      @@yourlocalboaty in the only one that matters (slinging HE and detecting)

    • @leight420
      @leight420 Місяць тому

      @@user-f44hil126ylItrillions in peoples pockets dont build better equipment buddy😂

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte Місяць тому +8

    Gaijin shouldn't have been tempting fate by including it inot the game😅

  • @RedHeavy-
    @RedHeavy- Місяць тому +1

    I like how my brain was just like: yep warthunder

  • @rowanyuh6326
    @rowanyuh6326 26 днів тому +1

    Kaktus my beloved it lives

  • @ulfhedtyrsson
    @ulfhedtyrsson Місяць тому +2

    T90 maingun autoaim in Warthunder when?
    Devs just sitting on that top BR $180 premium drooling for GE

    • @ThorSuzuki1
      @ThorSuzuki1 Місяць тому +4

      Almost all modern tanks has that feature...

    • @russianbs
      @russianbs Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, tanks from the early 80s had it lmao, the early Abrams variants, the latter Leopard 1s, the T-80B, T-72B the early leopard 2s... Obviously they were not as refined as modern fire control systems, but a ballistic computer and target tracking ability is the like minimum you expect from a fire control system put in a MBT after the 1980s

    • @AquaNomad34
      @AquaNomad34 Місяць тому +2

      ​​​@@russianbs No LOL not at all
      You are confusing "lead" with auto-aim, but it's not the same, these are completely different things.
      The NATO tanks like Arbams or Leopard did NOT have automatic target tracking system, they only had a assisting functionality called "lead" which means the gunner still has to aim the gun manually by hand to get the gun on target, while the Laser-Range Finder helps to calculate all the important data which helps the gunner to hit a moving target more accurately, but at the end the gunner still has to aim the gun manually with his hand on a joystick (similar to a Playstation controller)
      This is not the same as Automatic Target Tracking used in the T90M, Merkava 4 or K2 (South Korea) which literally aims the gun automatically on target so the gunner does not need to aim the cannon manually with his hand, but instead the tank's own computer system aims the cannon fully automatically on target which increases the accuracy of hitting the target better with faster acquisition time, which gives these tanks a little advantage.
      But of course, during the Cold War in the 1980s the NATO tanks still had better Fire-control system than the old Soviet T72 which didn't even have the simple "lead" functionality that the NATO tanks had in the 1980s, so the T72 had no assisted aim capability at all, which is why the Soviet tanks had the worst accuracy against moving targets.
      And now the newest upgrades for Abrams, Leopard 2 and challenger 3 will also get this Automatic Target Tracking capability too, although they received this capability much later...
      (the Israeli Merkava 4 already had this capability since 2004)

  • @red_orange2971
    @red_orange2971 Місяць тому +4

    US already knows everything about the tank, they own 2-3 at this point, but its still cool for us internet peeps.

    • @VelikanVLK
      @VelikanVLK Місяць тому +1

      Pretty sure they captured T-90A not sure about the M variant.

    • @red_orange2971
      @red_orange2971 Місяць тому +3

      @@VelikanVLK Ukraine captured 6-7 of them, you can be sure 1 or 2 ended up in the US.

  • @Ticklestein
    @Ticklestein 11 днів тому

    4:40 - **Laughs in Drunk Scottish Pig language**
    “At least, not anymore.” 😏

  • @StevieTheBush
    @StevieTheBush Місяць тому +2

    A T72B3 has also been leaked

  • @1vbAPiYk
    @1vbAPiYk Місяць тому +3

    Not gonna lie, manual transmission on a tank is bad ass.

  • @BH-gh6qm
    @BH-gh6qm Місяць тому +8

    Z

  • @harryshuman9637
    @harryshuman9637 Місяць тому +1

    War Thunder forum just a couple of days ago leaked F-15 and F-35 stuff.

  • @Burak08tr
    @Burak08tr Місяць тому +2

    i see the title an like...
    again?!...

  • @P3LM3SH3K
    @P3LM3SH3K Місяць тому +7

    Я почти уверен, что 90% всех перечисленных модулей в большинстве случаев не будут даже установлены на танк или работать)

    • @aenodarr7936
      @aenodarr7936 Місяць тому +3

      Ну, ты то эксперт, тебе виднее

  • @whiskey_tango_foxtrot__
    @whiskey_tango_foxtrot__ Місяць тому +6

    And all built without enrichment, diversity and DE&I

    • @alangordon3283
      @alangordon3283 Місяць тому +12

      And it’s still utter watery shit .

    • @seasons1745
      @seasons1745 Місяць тому +12

      What a weird way to out yourself lol

    • @user-vt4je9ym6h
      @user-vt4je9ym6h Місяць тому +1

      @@alangordon3283 still better than any western garbage

    • @krunchie101
      @krunchie101 Місяць тому

      Do you think anti tank mines and ATGMs care about social issues?

    • @Iden_in_the_Rain
      @Iden_in_the_Rain Місяць тому +1

      @@seasons1745I know, right? You’d think people would like having diverse perspectives in STEM, it gives you more chances for creative ideas.

  • @7DaysChanel_VandenReich
    @7DaysChanel_VandenReich Місяць тому +1

    Not only T-90M and T-80BVM tank manuals have been leaked. F-15 and some US missile also have been leaked.

  • @zeerocool
    @zeerocool Місяць тому +1

    1:38 -- # of gears does not indicate speed. The gear ratios for examples can be changed. A real world example: on a motorcycle one routinely changes their rear sprocket to adjust for conditions, terrain, and riding style. The bike's acceleration and top speeds change, but the number of gears do not.

    • @OCS-vr7my
      @OCS-vr7my Місяць тому

      They can, but they haven’t otherwise that’s an entirely new gearbox

  • @nickdial8528
    @nickdial8528 Місяць тому +2

    @redeffect
    I have a leaked 2003 Chevy Avalanche manual, if you're interested.

  • @946towguy2
    @946towguy2 Місяць тому

    That 6mph top speed in revers is certainly impressive.

  • @truereaper4572
    @truereaper4572 Місяць тому +1

    0:52 Are we sure that 51 Ton figure is the loaded weight? To me it seems like that little "+2%" marked next to the 51 is what the loaded weight would be (51 tons + 2% of that), with the base weight being 51 tons.

  • @skyd8726
    @skyd8726 29 днів тому

    TLDR? "T-90 is for display purposes only. Do not take anywhere near a conflict zone. Best suited for parades."

  • @yonsisac264
    @yonsisac264 Місяць тому +1

    I would make a war thunder joke but I already am 3 hours late.

  • @RVize
    @RVize Місяць тому

    Not me waiting for a Abram leak "kicks feet around" yupppp dont want that to happen "gives a side eye"

  • @greg.kasarik
    @greg.kasarik Місяць тому

    Incredibly surprised that it has taken this long for these manuals to be released.
    I've still got most of my old Leo 1 manuals, but the idea of making the public never really crossed my mind, because they don't contain anything beyond the bog standard operating procedures. I always assumed that information was freely available.
    Also, my manuals only carry the old "restricted" classification, which was for protected, but not sensitive information.
    For example the Army doesn't want civilians knowing the procedure for starting a tank up and getting in moving.

  • @happychayka
    @happychayka Місяць тому +1

    Thank you for your video, interesting as always!!!

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo Місяць тому +1

    These manuals have actually been out there since the late 1990s, btw. Just not really online.

    • @magnum6763
      @magnum6763 Місяць тому +2

      i remember when T-90M, T-80BVM, and T-72B3 manuals were leaked in 1990.

    • @russianbs
      @russianbs Місяць тому +1

      The mythical T-90M, T-80BVM and T-72B3 that existed in the 90s:

  • @schmiddy8433
    @schmiddy8433 Місяць тому +1

    we dont know that the reverse speed is the same based on number of gears. Often time with automatic gearing systems it uses an entirely different gearbox, just depends. The gearing ratio for reverse could have been changed, there are plenty of tanks with 1 reverse gear that get decent speed out of them. Could it be the same? very possibly.
    There's gotta be footage out there somewhere of a t90m reversing for people to compare.

    • @OCS-vr7my
      @OCS-vr7my Місяць тому

      Dude, it’s the same as a regular t90, I know you’re upset but this is literally the manual… one reverse gear and the same engine

    • @schmiddy8433
      @schmiddy8433 Місяць тому

      @@OCS-vr7my I said "Could it be the same? very possibly."
      You are the only one upset here starting your comment off with "dude, " shows that you're way too emotional over something that isn't a big deal.
      I simply made the point that having the same number of reverse gears does not necessarily mean the same speed. just changing the final drive alone would completely alter the acceleration and top speed of the tank, and these types of changes are extremely common when switching to an automatic gear box.

  • @borland8513
    @borland8513 Місяць тому

    Just so we are clear, I was on CQ Runner duty when T-90 technical schematics and information arrived at my company for our Company Commander. So, the US Military has been very aware of T-90 series capabilities for about three decades.

  • @ROBOTRIX_eu
    @ROBOTRIX_eu Місяць тому +1

    ..one word, for the convenied "leaks".. maskirovka !

  • @andrewmorke
    @andrewmorke Місяць тому

    MBTs are at the same point where battleships were in the 1930s. The steel behemoths, such as Yamato, Arizona, and Prince of Wales, became vulnerable to small, maneuverable aircraft.

  • @oscarw7805
    @oscarw7805 Місяць тому

    Excellent, always wondered about the turret-launch mechanism 😂

  • @shadowtrooper262
    @shadowtrooper262 Місяць тому +1

    Wait, we get two leaked documents within two days? Thats crazy! 😂
    (First one being the F-15)