Classified T-90M Documents Leaked!

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  • @chrisbacon3071
    @chrisbacon3071 4 місяці тому +5369

    (Classified documents get leaked)
    The internet: WAR THUNDER NOOO!!!
    Warthunder: what?
    The internet: Sorry force of habit.

    • @TacitusKilgore-b5g
      @TacitusKilgore-b5g 4 місяці тому +212

      that's EXACTLY what i assumed

    • @petermikus2363
      @petermikus2363 4 місяці тому +101

      I mean there was a leak for the F-35 lightning recently.

    • @DarkSoul1992
      @DarkSoul1992 4 місяці тому +15

      Yes exactly like this lmao

    • @paint4r
      @paint4r 4 місяці тому +53

      The documents were still posted on the war thunder forum lol

    • @dr2d2
      @dr2d2 4 місяці тому +6

      Same here

  • @Norrikan
    @Norrikan 4 місяці тому +2341

    _"Surprisingly, it wasn't War Thunder's fault for things getting leaked this time."_ - Well, to my understanding it still was a War Thunder player that dumped the manual, just not on the official forums for once.

    • @danishayne1
      @danishayne1 4 місяці тому +313

      *military stuff gets leaked*
      Internet: it all war thunder players?
      War thunder: always has been

    • @cloroxbleach9222
      @cloroxbleach9222 4 місяці тому +218

      To be fair, you'd be hard pressed to find a tank enthusiast that does NOT play war thunder in the past or present.
      Let's just be thankful the leak isn't JUST for war thunder balancing

    • @usurp795
      @usurp795 4 місяці тому +24

      ​@@danishayne1you do know that before your little games there are plenty of people who are into war and war vehicles/equipment. The worst part of about these games is it makes it harder to find rare things or when you just want to research or look something up you get flooded with videogame nonsense instead of facts and history. It's pretty annoying and people have been finding information like this for decades before video games.

    • @smokeyhoodoo
      @smokeyhoodoo 4 місяці тому +59

      Install the game boomer, it's free

    • @wargamingrefugee9065
      @wargamingrefugee9065 4 місяці тому +37

      @@usurp795 Just in case you don't know. To exclude search results, place a "-" in front of the search term you don't want to include. For example: -dogs or -airplane or -APC.

  • @tonyl7286
    @tonyl7286 4 місяці тому +2400

    Of course it was from a forum
    CIA: "Who are you?"
    War thunder+Online military forums: "I'm you but stronger."

    • @Reallyidktbh
      @Reallyidktbh 4 місяці тому +74

      The power of open-source intelligence.

    • @trazyntheinfinite9895
      @trazyntheinfinite9895 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Reallyidktbhthe power the need to e peen.

    • @firesb7791
      @firesb7791 4 місяці тому +94

      ​@@Reallyidktbhmore like the power of internet autism and human pettiness

    • @nakazaki1254
      @nakazaki1254 4 місяці тому

      Why would cia leak the information they have 🤡
      Especially a shitty tank

    • @arvedludwig3584
      @arvedludwig3584 4 місяці тому

      Nah, they probably stole a T90M before the war. I mean west Germany got its hand on a brand new T80 before the wall came down.

  • @Loudward__
    @Loudward__ 4 місяці тому +3384

    Of to the war thunder forums we go!

    • @phileashuang240
      @phileashuang240 4 місяці тому +26

      Daboi

    • @ankurar6492
      @ankurar6492 4 місяці тому +47

      You clearly didn’t watch the whole video because there changes would make nō changes to the tanks in the game.

    • @marc6719
      @marc6719 4 місяці тому +11

      ​​@@ankurar6492certainly appeared first again in War Thunder form Not ist very interessant

    • @Reallyidktbh
      @Reallyidktbh 4 місяці тому +17

      It's already on Reddit.

    • @ralphyreece4687
      @ralphyreece4687 4 місяці тому +13

      Downloaded it yesterday off prephole

  • @TomislavPuklin-x5m
    @TomislavPuklin-x5m 4 місяці тому +1555

    F15, F35, T80bvm and T90m leaks in a single week. War Thunder community never stops grinding.

    • @SpookyGrim
      @SpookyGrim 4 місяці тому

      F15 and the F35 docs was leaked?

    • @RasyidNazar
      @RasyidNazar 4 місяці тому +85

      They are in the mood!

    • @johnmikezstaca4307
      @johnmikezstaca4307 4 місяці тому +82

      F35?

    • @Aw3someGYE
      @Aw3someGYE 4 місяці тому +170

      ​@@johnmikezstaca4307Happened like yesterday 😂

    • @pandibbarman
      @pandibbarman 4 місяці тому

      What kind of information though how to shift gears? ☠️​@@Aw3someGYE

  • @abhilashyadav2274
    @abhilashyadav2274 4 місяці тому +1069

    Wake up Babe . New War Thunder update has arrived.
    The update .........

    • @shawn7889
      @shawn7889 4 місяці тому +14

      Slight update to weight? Hell nah, that's a Russian vehicle

    • @Shin-lh9ih
      @Shin-lh9ih 4 місяці тому +1

      r/wooosh

    • @giftrichard4745
      @giftrichard4745 4 місяці тому

      The tracking system ​@@shawn7889

    • @Cnupoc
      @Cnupoc 4 місяці тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @kilokai21
      @kilokai21 4 місяці тому +6

      @@shawn7889 T-90M mass on War Thunder has been 51.0 t

  • @xIkkito
    @xIkkito 4 місяці тому +150

    War Thunder: write that DOWN! write that DOWN!

    • @The_whales
      @The_whales 4 місяці тому +1

      Also war thunder: makes a premium tank w/ the same armor as a non premium have better protection

    • @BARelement
      @BARelement 4 місяці тому

      @@The_whalesKVT, and ClickBait has better protection?

    • @zSwax
      @zSwax 2 місяці тому

      ​@@BARelement he means is6

  • @MikeRoch-m4r
    @MikeRoch-m4r 4 місяці тому +538

    Pretty sure all the intelligence services, who really wanted to, already had these documents for a while. Leaking it to public will only affect how accurate these tanks represented in games.

    • @NineSeptims
      @NineSeptims 4 місяці тому +88

      Yep it's incredibly easy for intel agencies to get this info. What is more hard to get is specific technologies that only the engineers would know.

    • @jarate8076
      @jarate8076 4 місяці тому +1

      >It most likely
      >They probably
      >It might've
      >it is probable
      >They likely
      >It's nearly definite
      >I'm sure that
      you're a little runt

    • @getoutofherestalker2441
      @getoutofherestalker2441 4 місяці тому +29

      That is what I was thinking, and I am pretty sure they learned most of the stuff from captured vehicles in Ukraine anyway, in case the intelligence services didn't get them before

    • @spamstabber
      @spamstabber 4 місяці тому

      Exactly, the F-35 and F-15 leaks were from a Russian pilot on telegram, if he had access to the documents then everyone else that needs access does too.

    • @Saufs0ldat
      @Saufs0ldat 4 місяці тому +32

      With this being a manual for the crew and hundreds of crews as well as thousands of other personnel with access, it's really not that big a secret. I bet they have conscripts print it out or just send it to people digitally.

  • @34225540
    @34225540 4 місяці тому +385

    The fact that these manuals are under "ЕСКД" numbers says, that these are not classified....
    Moreover, it's just a manuals, there CAN'T be anything classified
    Exported tanks comes with these docs

    • @TheNecronomica
      @TheNecronomica 4 місяці тому +59

      It can still be "export restricted" which is practically the same for civilians anyway.

    • @34225540
      @34225540 4 місяці тому +64

      I'll repeat, it's just manual, which can't contain anything classified. As an engineer i work with technical documentation, including military

    • @Scriptedviolince
      @Scriptedviolince 4 місяці тому +28

      The US government has a number of classifications. The fighter jet leaks are of "controlled unclassified information" which is information that is unclassified but requires safeguarding for whatever reason. These include stuff like engineering manuals but also stuff like Personally Identifying information and HIPAA protected medical records.

    • @34225540
      @34225540 4 місяці тому +23

      @Scriptedviolince in russia, user manuals are not even "for service use only"
      Exactly this one has no any stamp of use and "expluatation documents" mostly always "open"

    • @Radbot776
      @Radbot776 4 місяці тому +17

      Ukraine captured a t90m in early 2023 or late 22 I can’t remember
      It was fully intact and had ammo in it
      There’s no way this is secret
      Plus this tank is just a nicer t72

  • @arturpereira5428
    @arturpereira5428 4 місяці тому +539

    HELL YEAH!!! AT LEAST THIS TIME IT WASNT US THE ONES WHO LEAKED STUFF!!!

    • @foundationgamer9771
      @foundationgamer9771 4 місяці тому +31

      Thug Shaker Central: 'Am I a joke to you?'

    • @Elyron2004
      @Elyron2004 4 місяці тому +23

      it was a war thunder player

    • @arturpereira5428
      @arturpereira5428 4 місяці тому +7

      @@Elyron2004 no way . . . For real?

    • @vguyver2
      @vguyver2 4 місяці тому +7

      Actually the F15 and F35 manuals were also leaked this week.

    • @smoketinytom
      @smoketinytom 4 місяці тому +2

      I bet he plays War Thunder, so we can still attribute this to you. :D

  • @hivecasts
    @hivecasts 4 місяці тому +119

    Best guess is that 1250HP engines on BVMs are for new production tanks and 1100HP for old T80B/BVs that are being upgraded to BVM standard.

    • @blebeebum7996
      @blebeebum7996 4 місяці тому +8

      All t80bvm are upgrades of T80B/BV, so I don't think that this is the reason.

    • @hivecasts
      @hivecasts 4 місяці тому +7

      @@blebeebum7996 Current ones yes, but Russia has restarted production of BVMs in February (as well as FAB 3000s and such other things at the same time).

    • @ineedapharmists
      @ineedapharmists 4 місяці тому

      ​@@blebeebum7996an upgrade of an upgrade of an upgrade

    • @horvathrichard862
      @horvathrichard862 4 місяці тому +4

      @@hivecasts Can you provide source for this? I only found that there were announcements in 2023 that they would restart production, but was estimated to take several years before any newly produced T-80 could be completed.

    • @Cam64viper
      @Cam64viper 4 місяці тому +1

      T-80 and T-80B tended to use GTD-1000 engine, around 1100 HP. T-80U uses GTD-1250 engine, around 1250 HP. I wonder if they're replacing the less reliable engines with the newer mode reliable ones?

  • @tirushone6446
    @tirushone6446 4 місяці тому +153

    they expect the manuals to get leaked so of cause they don't include any sensiti-
    guy who leaked the chellenger 2 manual: I am about to do what's called a pro-gamer move

    • @TheForklifter
      @TheForklifter 4 місяці тому +9

      Challenger 2 leak didn't contain much all too interesting

    • @itsuk1_1
      @itsuk1_1 4 місяці тому +9

      chally2 manual is about the same, it was just bongs that freak out, they are known to be over reacting, also they don't have much tank to begin without the need to mention their tank are trash.

    • @mikeycraig8970
      @mikeycraig8970 4 місяці тому

      Plus Challenger 2 is a 90s tank, being replaced by the Cr3. Not a lot you can do with 30 year old info 😂

    • @STRYKER1467
      @STRYKER1467 4 місяці тому

      Yeah the thing is if you upload these files to your favorite game forums atleast the police will not put you in custody since they are russian tanks.

    • @eibolsoe
      @eibolsoe 4 місяці тому +4

      @@mikeycraig8970 challenger 3 is just a refurbished challenger 2 hull with a new turret.

  • @yspear_
    @yspear_ 4 місяці тому +212

    To the WT forums you go

  • @starling6438
    @starling6438 4 місяці тому +30

    Как механик - водитель танка Т-90М (2020) могу сказать, что никакой автоматической трансмиссии не было на тот момент. Кондиционер так же не работал. Но это была партия первых 20 серийных машин. Но люди с УВЗ, которые помогали нам освоить технику говорили, что изначально планировалось установка новой автоматической кпп с повышенной скоростью заднего хода и за место рычагов управления был штурвал.
    Еще одна вещь: Не смотря на указанную максимальную скорость в инструкции, в реальности она чуть выше. Танк разгонял до 70км/ч и чувствовалось, что потенциал еще имеется, но был риск потерять управление, т.к на асфальте зацепа гусениц нет.

    • @TheMrKotmanul
      @TheMrKotmanul 4 місяці тому +2

      этот "слив" на русском вообще существует или только красиво написанные штуки на англ.? Я просто рили ничего найти не смог и пока это как-то очень потешно выглядит со стороны)
      Единственное что таки нашел это вроде как руководство по эксплуатации т80бвм на реддите, но и к тому есть вопросы. Там местами попадаются старые странички от старого руководства от БМки вроде, которые в сети уже давно. Но хз мож так и должно быть, я в подробности не вдавался.

    • @AlexJeroy
      @AlexJeroy 4 місяці тому +1

      @@TheMrKotmanul да нет в реальности никакой утечки - увы.. но это с высокой долей вероятности фейк.

  • @Vol4ok_SP
    @Vol4ok_SP 4 місяці тому +88

    Я не думаю, что в руководстве по эксплуатации танка, предназначенном для обычного экипажа будет содержаться супер секретная информация в духе "как изготовить Реликт в домашних условиях"

    • @lavrentiy911
      @lavrentiy911 4 місяці тому +21

      Об этом в видео и говорится

    • @Neukend
      @Neukend 4 місяці тому +7

      ну именно это чел и сказал под конец видео

    • @Australiaisupsidedown
      @Australiaisupsidedown 4 місяці тому

      no shit

    • @oo-xb6gv
      @oo-xb6gv 4 місяці тому +1

      ⁠@@Australiaisupsidedown That isn't mentioned nor implied in the video 💀 what a sad life you must have to spend your days being an ah online 😂

    • @kuroneko9710
      @kuroneko9710 4 місяці тому +2

      Там совсем не есть секретного для изучивания. Танк этот неудача.

  • @GM-xk1nw
    @GM-xk1nw 4 місяці тому +528

    please don't be war thunder.
    edit: few

    • @foundationgamer9771
      @foundationgamer9771 4 місяці тому +52

      Hate to be that guy, but it's 'phew'
      Edit: Why are you guys making a chain of this 😭

    • @Na_Turek
      @Na_Turek 4 місяці тому +20

      I hate to be that guy, but it's 'phew'.

    • @chatter2765
      @chatter2765 4 місяці тому +16

      I hate to be that guy, but it's 'phew'.

    • @catamogus4457
      @catamogus4457 4 місяці тому +14

      I hate to be that guy, but it's 'phew'.

    • @Blizzard64267
      @Blizzard64267 4 місяці тому +15

      I love to be that guy, it's phew.

  • @sansgrafnie2593
    @sansgrafnie2593 4 місяці тому +68

    it was a war thunder guy who posted it, byt not on a war thunder forum because it would be taken down too quickly

    • @bik3r230
      @bik3r230 4 місяці тому +4

      Every tanker plays earthunder

    • @TheForklifter
      @TheForklifter 4 місяці тому +2

      It wasn't a warthunder guy. He just reposted them. It was some Russian forum

  • @Bren.nto6971
    @Bren.nto6971 4 місяці тому +36

    CIA agent : "sir, we managed to obtain the enemy's secret!"
    President: "good job, but where the agent?"
    CIA agent: " our agents stuck in internet cafe, playing wt😅"

    • @kuroneko9710
      @kuroneko9710 4 місяці тому

      Oh, oh... Come on! Nobody is interested in T-90s. Even Chinese guys... They failed to prove their worth in Ukraine.

    • @Bynk333
      @Bynk333 4 місяці тому +1

      @@kuroneko9710 They failed to prove their worth in Ukraine. What tank dont? Abrams , Leopard, all the same! :D

    • @Lowest_Levels
      @Lowest_Levels 2 місяці тому

      @@kuroneko9710 They are deadly, just as the western variants until a drone comes a knocking....

  • @JohnAnonym
    @JohnAnonym 4 місяці тому +61

    Everyone: WAR THUNDER!!!!
    War Thunder: WHAT?
    Everyone: Why did you leak those documents?
    War Thunder: Just Because military documents get leaked, doesn't mean I did it.
    Everyone: ...
    War Thunder: I mean, I did leak military documents, but it wasn't me this time.
    Everyone: ... The Documents about T-90M?
    War Thunder: ... Just the F-15 and F-35...

    • @RasyidNazar
      @RasyidNazar 4 місяці тому +1

      They didnt get blame this time , but get blamed for the other shit they do😂

    • @JohnAnonym
      @JohnAnonym 4 місяці тому +7

      @@RasyidNazar I swear, at this point any game company could just leak secret documents and somehow, by proxy, War Thunder get's all the blame

    • @RasyidNazar
      @RasyidNazar 4 місяці тому

      @@JohnAnonym absolutely lmao, my first thought it was war thunder player who leak it😂

  • @aliancemd
    @aliancemd 4 місяці тому +36

    0:52 “51t +2%” - the “+2%” weight is when you switch from the North Korean team to the American team

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 місяці тому +2

      2% out of 51T is over one ton... 340kg person would not be able to claim to any tank(even American one)...

    • @ToxicJelly9
      @ToxicJelly9 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@Bialy_1 the guy was joking

  • @A_random_idiot15
    @A_random_idiot15 4 місяці тому +108

    Day 7 asking redeffect to talk about the is-7 being restored

  • @SargeNuR
    @SargeNuR 4 місяці тому +35

    On the RU secret documents, a secrecy stamp is placed in the upper right corner, and below it is a list item of the order, in accordance with which the document is classified. I don't see this in the documents. Therefore, the document does not carry any SECRET and is not classified

    • @AndRei-yc3ti
      @AndRei-yc3ti 4 місяці тому +1

      This is classified as an ЕБСМ document which is non-classified
      Seems to be an exploitation manual for the crew

  • @michaelsnyder3871
    @michaelsnyder3871 4 місяці тому +7

    As the video covered the automatic transmission, there was a notation that the tank had to be brought to a stop before engaging reverse from forward or shifting from reverse to forward.

  • @sweetnerevar7030
    @sweetnerevar7030 4 місяці тому +18

    If it’s not on warthunder forums it’s not an authentic leak

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 4 місяці тому +88

    Time to find out if Object 187 was still superior choice long term...

    • @mrmakhno3030
      @mrmakhno3030 4 місяці тому +4

      It is the superior choice.

    • @krunchie101
      @krunchie101 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@Mal101M we can still compare the theoretical specs to t90 reality.

    • @Klovaneer
      @Klovaneer 4 місяці тому +1

      The only real differences would be lengthened hull (could accommodate larger transmission?) and revised upper glacis that eliminated the driver's weak spot and that would come with about 2 extra tons.

    • @BlackWolf9988
      @BlackWolf9988 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Klovaneer Did it still have the horrible reverse speed?

    • @marty2129
      @marty2129 4 місяці тому +3

      @@BlackWolf9988 dunno... The Object 187 was tested with both the UVZ diesel and the turbine AFAIK (dunno which version of the hull though, there were several configurations both with the "classic" sloped front and the "Type-96A-style"/"Object 195-style" short glacis with composite slab) and I imagine the turbine was taken from a T-80U direcly, so the turbine version would have probably the same transmission as T-80 variants... as for the diesel, I am not sure what transmission it had, and if there was any other variant (I would imagine there might have been one with KMDB's 6TDF too, but as far as prototypes go none seem to have that one and Malyshev plant had different priorities around the time 187 was developed as it was responsible for the T-80U, T-80UD and the development of Object 490 and 477)...

  • @thegenericguy8309
    @thegenericguy8309 4 місяці тому +2

    I think it makes sense that it's below 50 tons empty in particular because 50 tons has long been the hard limit for Soviet and Russian tanks for logistics reasons, as the per car weight their rail network can consistently support, making a combat weight of over 50 tons perfectly fine as long as it's below that for transport

  • @Vishesh-ud3rl
    @Vishesh-ud3rl 4 місяці тому +21

    4:40
    No pig was harmed in the making of this video

    • @christopherchartier3017
      @christopherchartier3017 4 місяці тому +2

      Good lord let it go

    • @viktoriyaserebryakov2755
      @viktoriyaserebryakov2755 3 місяці тому

      @@christopherchartier3017 Why on Earth would I elect to forgot when a l"ar l"ed then refused to admit to what he did? So he can l"e to me again?

  • @antimatter4733
    @antimatter4733 4 місяці тому +7

    The weight is definitely not increased from 48-52 tons just because of crew ammo and fuel. Let's calculate that for a second. The tank has 1200L of fuel, so let's say 1500kg. Plus another 200kg for 3 crew members then for the ammo it would be 43 rounds at around 15kg per round so let's say around 500kg there.
    That works out to 2.2 tons. So basically you're missing almost 2 tons of weight.
    So, very likely the T90M has 2 tons of additional armor, either in the turret or front of the hull.

    • @robertpatrick3350
      @robertpatrick3350 4 місяці тому +2

      That fuel calc is out by 500kg! Diesel is a lot lighter per m3….

    • @cuongle7990
      @cuongle7990 4 місяці тому +4

      You're missing a lot of equipment on your list. There are tools for maintenance, camping, repairs, pioneering tools, spare tracks, spare wheels, etc. and also a lot of machine gun ammo. Outside of fuel, there are also a few hundred kilos of lubricant, cooling fluid, hydraulic fluid, etc.

    • @antimatter4733
      @antimatter4733 4 місяці тому +5

      @@cuongle7990 you think a t90m carries 2 tons of oil, hydraulic fluid, tools and parts? Absolutely not. The oil capacity on a t90M is around 40-50kg, coolant and hydraulic fluids are likely similar or less. Therefore the total of fluids adds up to under 150kg. Still 1650-2650kg of weight unaccounted for (because of the +2% next to the weight)
      I hope you understand how much weight that is, that's the weight of an average sedan to the weight of an SUV and you're claiming that's just the weight of parts? At most it carries a couple of extra road wheels and a few tracks, that's absolutely not 2 tons. Maybe another 100kg of parts if we're being generous and another 50kg of tools again if we're being generous.
      You're still at MINIMUM 1500kg off the weight. At maximum you're 2500kg off the weight. That's the equivalent of the M1 depleted uranium armor package, the only logical explanation is that it's an armor upgrade, which makes complete sense. Just because Russia didn't openly state they upgraded the armor doesn't mean they didn't, they upgraded every other system in the tank and you think they didn't add a bit more hull despite that being one of the easiest upgrades they could have done (given the hull composite armor is already designed to be replaced and armor is much easier to make than any other component on the T90m)

    • @antimatter4733
      @antimatter4733 4 місяці тому +3

      @@robertpatrick3350 ohh, I just assumed it was more dense than water, okay so the actual weight deficit is probably more like 2000-3000kg

  • @flyingbird5449
    @flyingbird5449 4 місяці тому +105

    NO WAY IT WASENT WAR THUNDER FORUM BOYS 😭😭😭

    • @officer_miller
      @officer_miller 4 місяці тому +19

      to my knowledge it was a war thunder player but this time it was leaked somewhere else

    • @flyingbird5449
      @flyingbird5449 4 місяці тому +6

      @@officer_miller i knew it

    • @isigo483
      @isigo483 4 місяці тому

      As a community we failed leaking it first 😢

  • @korana6308
    @korana6308 4 місяці тому +5

    1 I don't know who thought that it was 48 tons. As pretty much all of the official data stated 50 and 52 tons at full load.
    2 Just because gears didn't increase, doesn't mean that the reverse speed didn't increase. It achieves higher reverse speed with higher engine torque in turbo.
    3 I don't know who though that Russia was using Sosna U here, as it was common knowledge and the entire purpose of Proryv 3 to switch to domestic thermals...
    4 Maximum speed clearly states - not less, in the manual. The maximum speed of T80 is 80km/h
    etc etc etc all of this stuff is known already.
    ps T90 46 tons, T90A 48 tons, T90M 50 tons. ( 52 in full gear with APS)

    • @alextell7019
      @alextell7019 4 місяці тому

      Reverse speed would only increase if it was torque limited originally which we know it isnt because it can go much faster in forward gears.

  • @Trve_Kvlt
    @Trve_Kvlt 4 місяці тому +6

    Something to note about the T-80BVM, according to the manual, the tank can't carry more than 14 of the Svinets projectile (3BM48, 3BM60 and 3BM59) due to carousel configuration. From the manual itself: "Twenty-eight shots, in any ratio by type, are placed in the conveyor of the loading mechanism, while it is prohibited to place 3VBM22, 3VBM23 rounds in adjacent trays. 3VBM22, 3VBM23 rounds should be placed in the MZ conveyor, alternating them with cumulative rounds. The remining nine shots, placed in a non-mechanized stowage, should be equipped only with high-explosive fragmentation and cumulative, of which five shells and seven cartridges are placed in the tank-rack, two shells on the bottom of the tank-rack, two shells and two cartridges - at the motor partitions between the middle fuel tanks." Of course 3VBM22 and 23 is not to be confused with 3BM22 and 3BM23 (3VBM9), which entered service in 1976.
    Edit: Corrected ammunition terminology.
    Edit 2: Analysis of ammunition load in captured/destroyed/damaged Russian tanks has shown that most crews are being equipped with 3BM46 "Mango", which entered service in 1986 and is a tungsten penetrator. As opposed to the newer Svinets and Svinets-1 which are depleted uranium, and the Svinets-2 which is a longer Tungsten Alloy penetrator.

    • @spyderDFX
      @spyderDFX 4 місяці тому

      It is digit 3, not letter Z (З)

    • @Trve_Kvlt
      @Trve_Kvlt 4 місяці тому

      @@spyderDFX I'm aware, this was copied from an AI translation of the manual. I'll go back and edit it.

    • @ericquiabazza2608
      @ericquiabazza2608 4 місяці тому

      There is ALSO to concider:
      This is what could/expect to have equiped.
      Dosnt mean it Should or WILL.
      An example is Ammo.
      Is the tank is expected to be neutralize or go into a light combat the Ammo carry will be less or diferent.
      Same with armor and equipment.
      If using camouflaged, less amor, is heavy armored less extra ammo.

  • @juusolatva
    @juusolatva 4 місяці тому +36

    War Thunder has both T-80BVM and T-90M, so it's probably only a matter of time until the manuals find their way to the forums

    • @timsmetana9094
      @timsmetana9094 4 місяці тому +22

      I also have t-72Б3 manual with a lot of images

    • @rayray_vhnb8534
      @rayray_vhnb8534 4 місяці тому +2

      @@timsmetana9094 💀

    • @Erusean_pilot
      @Erusean_pilot 4 місяці тому +10

      @@timsmetana9094can i see it 🥺

    • @Bruno-G
      @Bruno-G 4 місяці тому

      Pretty please? ​@@timsmetana9094

    • @Mgaming61
      @Mgaming61 4 місяці тому

      @@timsmetana9094 affirmative, contacting the FSB

  • @ianjardine7324
    @ianjardine7324 4 місяці тому +3

    Those wieghts in the manuals likely don't include the weight of additional armour packages as those are constantly being changed in both design and materials used as such it's simpler to issue the crews withup to date manuals specific to each variant as they are fitted especially when multiple designs may be in use simultaneously. With each armour manual detailing the characteristics of the fitted armour and any effect on the vehicles handling characteristics. Any armour detailed in the vehicle manual should be considered the minimum armour configuration and was likely inaccurate as soon as it was printed.

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 4 місяці тому +2

    World: War Thunder how many times do we have to tell you!?
    War thunder: it wasnt me, I swear!

  • @fly_pie_1172
    @fly_pie_1172 4 місяці тому +30

    i was legit convinced this was from war thunder again

  • @zeerocool
    @zeerocool 4 місяці тому +1

    1:38 -- # of gears does not indicate speed. The gear ratios for examples can be changed. A real world example: on a motorcycle one routinely changes their rear sprocket to adjust for conditions, terrain, and riding style. The bike's acceleration and top speeds change, but the number of gears do not.

    • @OCS-vr7my
      @OCS-vr7my 4 місяці тому

      They can, but they haven’t otherwise that’s an entirely new gearbox

  • @w0lfgm
    @w0lfgm 4 місяці тому +4

    The MS is export variant and also older. Expected 50 tones but 52 is still reasonable.

  • @JustAnNPC69
    @JustAnNPC69 4 місяці тому +7

    I apologize for blaming War Thunder immediately 🙏🏻

  • @irfanhafizhbuntoro3772
    @irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 4 місяці тому +22

    So, will we get a buff or nerf?

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa 4 місяці тому +11

      T90m with 3gen termal.😂

    • @annguyenlehoang7779
      @annguyenlehoang7779 4 місяці тому +5

      I think a slight buff

    • @TheNicestPig
      @TheNicestPig 4 місяці тому +11

      @@irfanhafizhbuntoro3772 slight buff with 3rd gen thermal. War Thunder actually got the 51t weight correct

    • @vethenoir
      @vethenoir 4 місяці тому

      i dont think gaijin can legally use these

    • @retardmoguss
      @retardmoguss 4 місяці тому

      @@vethenoir its a training manual, they probably can.

  • @madlad1511
    @madlad1511 4 місяці тому +5

    The war thunder community needs to pick up the slack, i cant believe were falling behind someone else

  • @jamesturner2126
    @jamesturner2126 18 днів тому

    9:07 that is a 2 Spool radial flow gas turbine engine. It is basically 2 turbochargers built inside of each other, with the discharge of the first compressor feeding into the inlet of the second compressor, with the discharge of the second compressor blasting air into an annular combustion chamber. The thrust from the combustion chamber drives 2 turbines mounted to both a solid shaft, and 1 to a hollow shaft, then the thrust drives the power turbine and transmission. This is a far simpler, more reliable, cheaper, easier to start, longer lasting, more versatile engine than any diesel piston engine. That it a serious tactical advantage. This is similar to what the Abrams runs, and it runs it obviously for all the reasons why the Abrams runs it.

  • @ReviveHF
    @ReviveHF 4 місяці тому +39

    Few days ago it's the F-15EX, now it's the T-90M.

    • @jakubvanek7250
      @jakubvanek7250 4 місяці тому +7

      it was F-15SA

    • @dakromis
      @dakromis 4 місяці тому +1

      Brother, the e-publishing department of the airforce has had these documents available for you to download since 2020, all you have to do is go on their website, nothing has been leaked!

    • @Random_JapGuy
      @Random_JapGuy 4 місяці тому

      ​@@dakromisNothing is safe anymore. Someone will leak it.

  • @RADkate
    @RADkate 4 місяці тому +34

    NO DUMB DRAMA
    JUST STRAIGHT LEAKED DOCUMENTS
    🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

  • @Limescale12
    @Limescale12 4 місяці тому +3

    Well, it's still a formidable war machine. That, I'll never doubt

    • @rogerthat4545
      @rogerthat4545 4 місяці тому

      Not if you're in a real tank

    • @Limescale12
      @Limescale12 4 місяці тому

      @@rogerthat4545 okay man

  • @thomaswillians5714
    @thomaswillians5714 4 місяці тому +3

    Nice video! I see some comments, articles and videos about the tests of a new 152 mm gun for the T-14 Armata, and also that the tank is receiving some other upgrades, based in the current conflict. Any information about that?

    • @BoraHorzaGobuchul
      @BoraHorzaGobuchul 4 місяці тому +4

      Why waste time on vaporware?

    • @AmosKito
      @AmosKito 4 місяці тому +2

      upgrades? bro that thing is the biggest hot piece of garbage, it hasnt even made it to the front-lines

  • @handsomeivan1980
    @handsomeivan1980 4 місяці тому +46

    T-90M with 3rd gen thermals would be fantastic in WT

    • @aaroncruz9181
      @aaroncruz9181 4 місяці тому +28

      “Russian bias is real”

    • @BobbyB1928
      @BobbyB1928 4 місяці тому +10

      Everybodys gangster untill you realise the Relict modules had their explosive replaced with rubber because Russian corruption :(

    • @bastikolaski8111
      @bastikolaski8111 4 місяці тому +57

      ​@BobbyB1928 thats a propaganda lie from 2022. And you still believe it 🤣

    • @TheNicestPig
      @TheNicestPig 4 місяці тому +45

      ​@@BobbyB1928 bro is stuck in 2022 propaganda 💀

    • @ThorSuzuki1
      @ThorSuzuki1 4 місяці тому

      @@bastikolaski8111 There are videos of it..

  • @chaitanyakumar9626
    @chaitanyakumar9626 4 місяці тому +1

    After a few weeks.... War thunder T-90 update.... Includes update T-90 arnament, new upgrade armour, new driving mechanics....

  • @bruhmoment3741
    @bruhmoment3741 4 місяці тому +4

    i found it, i am not sure abaout the legitimacy of the OP though. This guy apparently also leaked other tank manuals.

  • @unyu-cyberstorm64
    @unyu-cyberstorm64 4 місяці тому +1

    “A fully combat loaded tank weighs more than (one that is empty)”
    Wow, who would have guessed that?!

  • @Paul_Sergeyev
    @Paul_Sergeyev 4 місяці тому +4

    *War thunder victory theme*

  • @rowanyuh6326
    @rowanyuh6326 4 місяці тому +1

    Kaktus my beloved it lives

  • @AlexRoivas
    @AlexRoivas 4 місяці тому +3

    Can someone leak the Russian black eagle manual so the prototype tank can be added to war thunder

  • @jcy089
    @jcy089 4 місяці тому +1

    I love how military manuals read also like regular Ikea ones

  • @collinarmon
    @collinarmon 4 місяці тому +5

    Warthunder wildin

  • @ZhaoYun3154
    @ZhaoYun3154 4 місяці тому +1

    Seems like the T-90M is a very impressive vehicle, although they really should upgrade the reverse gearing so that the vehicle can drive much faster in reverse. It really shouldn't be that expensive to upgrade the gearboxes on all of the T-90s or at least the units serving on the front lines.

  • @MichaelGreen-dm2ov
    @MichaelGreen-dm2ov 4 місяці тому +6

    New Red Effect video and I'm off work today. Thanks God.

  • @nuklear22
    @nuklear22 4 місяці тому

    I see the title "Was it war thunder again?" Then at 0:18 "I'm both surprised and disappointed."

  • @Intranetusa
    @Intranetusa 4 місяці тому +11

    If War Thunder players all came together, they could form a powerful military all on their own.

  • @leedex
    @leedex 4 місяці тому

    1:29 4 km/h. No retreat. Just forward with your comrades 😂

  • @edgeldine3499
    @edgeldine3499 4 місяці тому +4

    It didn't get released on war thunder because of the Russian bias lol

    • @plex2109
      @plex2109 4 місяці тому +1

      No it was because the dude in reddit who leaked it (T-90AK) didn't wanna post it in there because he'd get banned and it'd get deleted almost immediately

  • @Gooierostrich10
    @Gooierostrich10 2 місяці тому +2

    My bad guys

  • @ulfhedtyrsson
    @ulfhedtyrsson 4 місяці тому +2

    T90 maingun autoaim in Warthunder when?
    Devs just sitting on that top BR $180 premium drooling for GE

    • @ThorSuzuki1
      @ThorSuzuki1 4 місяці тому +4

      Almost all modern tanks has that feature...

    • @russianbs
      @russianbs 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, tanks from the early 80s had it lmao, the early Abrams variants, the latter Leopard 1s, the T-80B, T-72B the early leopard 2s... Obviously they were not as refined as modern fire control systems, but a ballistic computer and target tracking ability is the like minimum you expect from a fire control system put in a MBT after the 1980s

    • @AquaNomad34
      @AquaNomad34 4 місяці тому +3

      ​​​@@russianbs No LOL not at all
      You are confusing "lead" with auto-aim, but it's not the same, these are completely different things.
      The NATO tanks like Arbams or Leopard did NOT have automatic target tracking system, they only had a assisting functionality called "lead" which means the gunner still has to aim the gun manually by hand to get the gun on target, while the Laser-Range Finder helps to calculate all the important data which helps the gunner to hit a moving target more accurately, but at the end the gunner still has to aim the gun manually with his hand on a joystick (similar to a Playstation controller)
      This is not the same as Automatic Target Tracking used in the T90M, Merkava 4 or K2 (South Korea) which literally aims the gun automatically on target so the gunner does not need to aim the cannon manually with his hand, but instead the tank's own computer system aims the cannon fully automatically on target which increases the accuracy of hitting the target better with faster acquisition time, which gives these tanks a little advantage.
      But of course, during the Cold War in the 1980s the NATO tanks still had better Fire-control system than the old Soviet T72 which didn't even have the simple "lead" functionality that the NATO tanks had in the 1980s, so the T72 had no assisted aim capability at all, which is why the Soviet tanks had the worst accuracy against moving targets.
      And now the newest upgrades for Abrams, Leopard 2 and challenger 3 will also get this Automatic Target Tracking capability too, although they received this capability much later...
      (the Israeli Merkava 4 already had this capability since 2004)

  • @bezahltersystemtroll5055
    @bezahltersystemtroll5055 4 місяці тому +1

    this is becoming funnier and funnier with every time

  • @dust_gale3108
    @dust_gale3108 4 місяці тому +7

    Only 1 reverse gear doesn't necessarily mean that it only has 5 kms reverse.
    The gearbox settings are the key

    • @Klovaneer
      @Klovaneer 4 місяці тому +2

      You mean the gear ratio for a given gear. But if you can have only 1 reverse gear you have make it as low as the first forward. T-80 gets away with higher ratios because of the turbine's incredible torque.

    • @SteelheadCrusher
      @SteelheadCrusher 4 місяці тому

      And there's this thing called a throttle.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 місяці тому +13

      @@SteelheadCrusher There is this thing called 51Tons of your mass... and you need to use that reverse gear even when you ended up in some hole that you failed to see because visibility from tank is poor when you are driving with closed hatch...

    • @Klovaneer
      @Klovaneer 4 місяці тому

      @@Bialy_1 Yeah but now they can have rear view cameras.

  • @truereaper4572
    @truereaper4572 4 місяці тому +1

    0:52 Are we sure that 51 Ton figure is the loaded weight? To me it seems like that little "+2%" marked next to the 51 is what the loaded weight would be (51 tons + 2% of that), with the base weight being 51 tons.

  • @mowabb
    @mowabb 4 місяці тому +4

    Best tank in Ukraine right now

    • @yourlocalboaty
      @yourlocalboaty 4 місяці тому +2

      Depends in what areas.

    • @dejectedfrogcat2840
      @dejectedfrogcat2840 4 місяці тому

      Literally achieving new heights everyday

    • @ИванМатвеев-й2р
      @ИванМатвеев-й2р 4 місяці тому +1

      @@yourlocalboaty in the only one that matters (slinging HE and detecting)

    • @leight420
      @leight420 4 місяці тому

      @@user-6d4un3w7htrillions in peoples pockets dont build better equipment buddy😂

  • @datnguyen21040
    @datnguyen21040 4 місяці тому +1

    “Write that down,write that down”
    -WarThunder devs,Gaijin

  • @KGAnims
    @KGAnims 4 місяці тому +17

    "Documents has been leaked"
    My man, the tank itself has been leaked and taken away from battlefield for study!

  • @sebix790
    @sebix790 4 місяці тому

    Instructions or not, these manuals are very useful in understanding how a tank crew operates and what weaknesses that tank crew may have because of said instructions. I remember on a podcast a US military officer said he actively goes through his manuals finds weaknesses, and then makes his crew practice those over and over again in simulated scenarios. P.s Love your vids and can't wait for the devs to change the tanks now.

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 4 місяці тому +5

    Re: tank weights. Various authors conflate metric and standard and short tons, then translate to their preferred system of measure. This confuses the weight issue. For instance: Panther weighed roughly 45 metric tons . . . so USA writers have a tendency to undervalue its weight in shirt tons. Panther's weight in short tons is 49.5. The same thing happens with Tiger 1. Is it 56 metric tons or 61.6 short tons? A lot of folks aren't sure . . . I bet the same thing happens pretty often, especially where authors and primary sources don't specify.

    • @jonny2954
      @jonny2954 4 місяці тому +7

      No, that's an exclusively American problem. Europe uses metric. Absolutely no confusion over Panther or Tiger 1 weight over here.

    • @worldoftancraft
      @worldoftancraft 4 місяці тому +2

      peak Ameriquan moment

    • @antred11
      @antred11 4 місяці тому

      Americans and their friggin' freedom units. 🙄

  • @happychayka
    @happychayka 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you for your video, interesting as always!!!

  • @alexnderrrthewoke4479
    @alexnderrrthewoke4479 4 місяці тому +26

    One of best tanks in the world

    • @solastorm7
      @solastorm7 4 місяці тому +6

      is there still one left?

    • @alexnderrrthewoke4479
      @alexnderrrthewoke4479 4 місяці тому +12

      @@solastorm7 plenty and more in production.

    • @oofoof1206
      @oofoof1206 4 місяці тому +12

      @@solastorm7im not surprised that people are confused by the t90, because you have western news that say “ hey look a drone destroyed t90m the best tank in the world” , but also say “russia is in such shambles that they only have t60 tanks left”

    • @MikeRoch-m4r
      @MikeRoch-m4r 4 місяці тому

      Is not a subject of this video)))

    • @Ekdrink
      @Ekdrink 4 місяці тому +6

      Yet it was taken out by Bradley’s with no TOWs? Huh

  • @fouzaialaa7962
    @fouzaialaa7962 4 місяці тому

    The internet: War thunder i swear to god , if you leak classified documents one more time ....
    Warthunder : it wasnt me this time
    The internet: oh ,ok ...this is new

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte 4 місяці тому +8

    Gaijin shouldn't have been tempting fate by including it inot the game😅

  • @xendk
    @xendk 4 місяці тому +2

    The entire tank have been leaked

  • @RomanianReaver
    @RomanianReaver 4 місяці тому +2

    Just to make the obvious remark: These are very likely not leaks. Both these tanks got captured in intact specimens and odds are the manuals were in some of them. Why would they be? Because the manuals would contain useful things for repairs too so odds are they'd have them along just in case.

  • @RedHeavy-
    @RedHeavy- 4 місяці тому +1

    I like how my brain was just like: yep warthunder

  • @BH-gh6qm
    @BH-gh6qm 4 місяці тому +8

    Z

  • @Ticklestein
    @Ticklestein 3 місяці тому

    4:40 - **Laughs in Drunk Scottish Pig language**
    “At least, not anymore.” 😏

  • @red_orange2971
    @red_orange2971 4 місяці тому +4

    US already knows everything about the tank, they own 2-3 at this point, but its still cool for us internet peeps.

    • @Coelians
      @Coelians 4 місяці тому +1

      Pretty sure they captured T-90A not sure about the M variant.

    • @red_orange2971
      @red_orange2971 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Coelians Ukraine captured 6-7 of them, you can be sure 1 or 2 ended up in the US.

  • @DarkStalker09
    @DarkStalker09 3 місяці тому +1

    Wait so the bag ERA on the side isn’t supposed to absorb a point blank APFSDS round from an Abrams.

    • @RasyidNazar
      @RasyidNazar Місяць тому

      Nope,its supposed to absord the heat , the armour that dealing with apfsds is the main armour

  • @1vbAPiYk
    @1vbAPiYk 4 місяці тому +3

    Not gonna lie, manual transmission on a tank is bad ass.

  • @borland8513
    @borland8513 4 місяці тому

    Just so we are clear, I was on CQ Runner duty when T-90 technical schematics and information arrived at my company for our Company Commander. So, the US Military has been very aware of T-90 series capabilities for about three decades.

  • @P3LM3SH3K
    @P3LM3SH3K 4 місяці тому +7

    Я почти уверен, что 90% всех перечисленных модулей в большинстве случаев не будут даже установлены на танк или работать)

    • @aenodarr7936
      @aenodarr7936 4 місяці тому +3

      Ну, ты то эксперт, тебе виднее

  • @fridaycaliforniaa236
    @fridaycaliforniaa236 4 місяці тому +2

    Just when I typed "War Thunder" in Google...

  • @whiskey_tango_foxtrot__
    @whiskey_tango_foxtrot__ 4 місяці тому +6

    And all built without enrichment, diversity and DE&I

    • @alangordon3283
      @alangordon3283 4 місяці тому +12

      And it’s still utter watery shit .

    • @seasons1745
      @seasons1745 4 місяці тому +12

      What a weird way to out yourself lol

    • @ИванМатвеев-й2р
      @ИванМатвеев-й2р 4 місяці тому +1

      @@alangordon3283 still better than any western garbage

    • @krunchie101
      @krunchie101 4 місяці тому

      Do you think anti tank mines and ATGMs care about social issues?

    • @Iden_in_the_Rain
      @Iden_in_the_Rain 4 місяці тому +1

      @@seasons1745I know, right? You’d think people would like having diverse perspectives in STEM, it gives you more chances for creative ideas.

  • @greg.kasarik
    @greg.kasarik 4 місяці тому

    Incredibly surprised that it has taken this long for these manuals to be released.
    I've still got most of my old Leo 1 manuals, but the idea of making the public never really crossed my mind, because they don't contain anything beyond the bog standard operating procedures. I always assumed that information was freely available.
    Also, my manuals only carry the old "restricted" classification, which was for protected, but not sensitive information.
    For example the Army doesn't want civilians knowing the procedure for starting a tank up and getting in moving.

  • @onogrirwin
    @onogrirwin 3 місяці тому

    What would penetration data even mean? Stating equivalent meters of steel @ range/angle doesn't mean much, because no tank uses a simple hardened steel plate as armor and expects it to resist a hit from a tank gun. If normal steel plate is used, it's relatively thin, and protecting the roof or something. The front hull and turret are always protected by something more sophisticated.

  •  4 місяці тому +1

    I have a number of east German Army Handbooks for vehicles and they look much the same. They also dont say much about the Ammo or protection.

    • @cunnyfuuka3259
      @cunnyfuuka3259 4 місяці тому

      Do you by any chance have them digitally and do they have diagrams or exploded views of vehicles / weapons etc?

    • @RobertLutece909
      @RobertLutece909 4 місяці тому +2

      It's an operator's manual. Including sensitive stuff would mean you couldn't actually give it to the crews.

  • @luscinius2933
    @luscinius2933 4 місяці тому

    T-90MS is an export variant, the S usually denotes that, so it's not surprising that an export variant can be lighter. But, there is a caveat, there are actually two T-90MS, one is the export variant of T-90M, with a different cannon and an export variant of T-90AM, T-90AM weighs 48 tonns.

  • @paradoxofgodexisting
    @paradoxofgodexisting 4 місяці тому +1

    Nice to see the whole herd is focused on a game and not real life. That way they can confidently serve their leaders by jumping in whatever they give them and charge at the other sheep.

  • @Best_Quality_Copper
    @Best_Quality_Copper 4 місяці тому +1

    I did my part and posted them on the WT reddit and forum. Unfortunately the mods were active.....

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 4 місяці тому +1

    These manuals have actually been out there since the late 1990s, btw. Just not really online.

    • @magnum6763
      @magnum6763 4 місяці тому +2

      i remember when T-90M, T-80BVM, and T-72B3 manuals were leaked in 1990.

    • @russianbs
      @russianbs 4 місяці тому +1

      The mythical T-90M, T-80BVM and T-72B3 that existed in the 90s:

  • @jayburn00
    @jayburn00 4 місяці тому +2

    Wow, not war thunder this time, i am surprised.

  • @yonsisac264
    @yonsisac264 4 місяці тому +1

    I would make a war thunder joke but I already am 3 hours late.

  • @7DaysChanel_VandenReich
    @7DaysChanel_VandenReich 4 місяці тому +1

    Not only T-90M and T-80BVM tank manuals have been leaked. F-15 and some US missile also have been leaked.

  • @StevieTheBush
    @StevieTheBush 4 місяці тому +2

    A T72B3 has also been leaked

  • @paulbillson1922
    @paulbillson1922 3 місяці тому +1

    So! You absolutely love the T90 variants. But think the Challenger two is terrible 🤨

  • @andrewmorke
    @andrewmorke 4 місяці тому

    MBTs are at the same point where battleships were in the 1930s. The steel behemoths, such as Yamato, Arizona, and Prince of Wales, became vulnerable to small, maneuverable aircraft.

  • @BlobBoi
    @BlobBoi 4 місяці тому +1

    These aren’t necessarily classified documents, this is literally just how to drive a T-90M..