The reason why modern education "underappreciates" the right hemisphere is because of the necessity to mass educate. Mass education, just like mass production of goods in the industrialised economy, in order to be able to mass produce by force of the demand, needs to reduce the rather slow process of quality building as a manifestation of demand oriented economic reasoning (Kurzsichtigkeit auf Kosten der Langfristigkeit). Since the right hemisphere is better at grasping the whole Gestalt (a much more complex time consuming, qualitatively higher endeavour) the right hemisphere will be underrepresented automatically. I think the patterns are quite similar. Either wee need to slow down or we need smarter people in order to break with the destructive Kurzsichtigkeit (short-sightedness). Kurzsichtigkeit is the "all-destroyer" in the economy as well as in the field of education.
well put, agree. from my perspective the baby need not be tossed with the bathwater. we can utilize, for example, one thing that industrialization afforded us, the franchise business model, to spread holistic worker owned cooperatives (not cookie cutter but unique storefronts). we can use this model to shift into holistic need based consumer culture and hands-on direct restoration of the environment. the education is built into the model, both as separate franchises and DIY workshops within the storefronts. all franchise storefronts have built in play areas for small children of the worker-owners, saving on daycare expenses (and preventing emotional attachment issues in children who can access their parents throughout the day)
2 small clip microphones would have made a a much better job of that extremely interesting conversation. I do love that painting. It turns up in the background quite often so I suppose Dr McGilchrist likes it too.
very good points! the main thing I gather from this talk is a "conflating of the intentions and attentions" of education. What are the intentions of teaching on the part of institutions and teachers? Then, what are the intentions of the students? And, how do we all attend to this intention? (Not to mention the intentions and attentions of the institution itself from the POV of "profit maximizing" -tuition exploitation coupled with pandering to corporate and government military industrial agendas.) with the example given here of the "race class gender" course. of course, this is a critical concern to be addressed in societies rife with hate and discrimination. BUT the intentions and attentions that I see too often are NOT about setting things right, BUT counter-productively create an angst filled contentious student body that loses track of the more practical side of education (career preparation). what kind of job can you get with a race-class-gender degree aside from teaching about race class gender? I support making some of these mandatory electives, but not whole majors. at the hospital where I work, we had a diversity trainer come in to show us the light on being sensitive to various minorities. this made sense because it was CONTEXTUALIZED in an area where it could be DIRECTLY APPLIED, and when wisdom has this outlet, one can move back into a focus on the task at hand (treating patients.) So the TRUE ANGST created by these majors is that it fills the heads of students with "the facts and figures of injustice" devoid of any real world career avenue for its application. the student enters the real world with a lot of angst and a job flipping burgers.
Maybe Dr McGilchrist doesn't want too much fame to crowd his personal life, but I think it would improve quite a few people's lives, for him to talk on Joe Rogan - As with many other people's comments, I think it's such an utter shame that these videos don't have more views. The book and film of The Master And His Emissary are absolutely phenomenal and so relevant today. All the best everyone.
Could it be that the movements exposing “isms” is a way of universal balancing. When whiteness has been centered is an imbalance and extreme. Ciujx it be the that that white supremacy spawned it’s opposite in all the ism movements…which I think is dangerously moving being the thing it is fighting? The chaos perhaps self correcting, self balancing towards equilibrium. Equilibrium is not static, it always in flux and flow. Also, although I very much appreciate and respect Dr. McGilchrist works. We must reMember that his perception and language in expressing the inexpressible along with the environments and cultures that inform his mindset and worldview May sit very differently with different people. When people say things like absolutely, only, best, greatest it can only be from their perspective and experiences. I say this to invite us to explore how uttered or written language can confound us and can never explain, encompass or illustrate the unknown or unknownable.
Whiteness is a variety from Pinkness to Pastyness to Tannedness to many other varieties and hues and complexions... You seem to think the Ethnicity tick-box is reality, y'know the little tick-box on forms to fill in.
I understand what you're saying and agree. But I think you assume good faith on the part of the interlocutors. This is usually true but not always. And it becomes a problem when those not dialoguing in good faith have money and power.
Why would you assume Bad Faith right out of the gate? What does money and power have to do with a teacher teaching a student? What's wrong with Good Faith in any initial human interaction?
@@evanhadkins5532 I think I might understand. I'm just exhausted with the "hermeneutics of suspicion" that seems to permeate everything these days. Good Faith until proven otherwise seems the only sensible approach.
He’s trying to argue that studying racism feminism and identity politics politics in general is about simplifying and categorising the world. It’s not. It’s not attempting to describe the world, only part of it. It’s trying to describe how differences at the demographic level influence our society and peoples experiences in it. He is full of caricatures of the people he doesn’t like, which is basically the left, women, people who are not like him, enough said. Far as he’s concerned they are all closed minded ignorant types you don’t appreciate the past. What utter nonsense. He really is a bitter old man. He wants to make sure not so much that he keeps his privilege but that no one else has quite as much privilege as he has.
I don't think he's as much bitter as a product of a highly privileged background with plenty of time to enjoy art, literature and write weighty books. We could all come up with how capitalist patriarchal society is so depressingly exploitative and so many suffer from a lack of access to opportunities...the question is, what is the route to change????
@@kathleenbrady9916 - Hi Kathleen, you are so right, and we need to do it now, I’m seeing carnage, I’m a psychotherapist and I’m working closely as a friend with a vulnerable woman whose been abused by a powerful man and then denied justice, it’s sickening and upsetting and draining and damaging. I’ve seen institutional discrimination right up in my face and it has shocked me. And it is so hard to find support, we have felt on our own. My friend who I am helping is a working class autistic adult woman with learning disabilities. She is a truly wonderful woman who is herself a great gift to the world and yet she has said to me ‘I have no future’, ‘I have no friends’, ‘everyone wants to bully me’, I have wept and wept for her. It’s all so wrong.
Have you ever taught kids? It's really easy to teach them identity politics so they can say things such as: 1. "Teacher, that's against my human rights!" 2. "Teacher that's racist!" 3. "Teacher that's sexist!" It's much much harder to teach them mathematics than the above, which might interest you and not surprise you to hear...
@@commentarytalk1446 - teaching mathematics and about civil rights are not in competition, both can and should be done. It’s harder to teach kids maths than it is to teach them to cross the road but that’s no excuse to not teach them to cross the road. Kids need to be able to understand their rights and responsibilities and recognise when discrimination when they see it, and school is the right place to teach them that.
Such an underrated speaker. We need to share this around and make it more known.
The reason why modern education "underappreciates" the right hemisphere is because of the necessity to mass educate. Mass education, just like mass production of goods in the industrialised economy, in order to be able to mass produce by force of the demand, needs to reduce the rather slow process of quality building as a manifestation of demand oriented economic reasoning (Kurzsichtigkeit auf Kosten der Langfristigkeit). Since the right hemisphere is better at grasping the whole Gestalt (a much more complex time consuming, qualitatively higher endeavour) the right hemisphere will be underrepresented automatically. I think the patterns are quite similar. Either wee need to slow down or we need smarter people in order to break with the destructive Kurzsichtigkeit (short-sightedness). Kurzsichtigkeit is the "all-destroyer" in the economy as well as in the field of education.
well put, agree. from my perspective the baby need not be tossed with the bathwater. we can utilize, for example, one thing that industrialization afforded us, the franchise business model, to spread holistic worker owned cooperatives (not cookie cutter but unique storefronts). we can use this model to shift into holistic need based consumer culture and hands-on direct restoration of the environment. the education is built into the model, both as separate franchises and DIY workshops within the storefronts. all franchise storefronts have built in play areas for small children of the worker-owners, saving on daycare expenses (and preventing emotional attachment issues in children who can access their parents throughout the day)
2 small clip microphones would have made a a much better job of that extremely interesting conversation. I do love that painting. It turns up in the background quite often so I suppose Dr McGilchrist likes it too.
very good points! the main thing I gather from this talk is a "conflating of the intentions and attentions" of education. What are the intentions of teaching on the part of institutions and teachers? Then, what are the intentions of the students? And, how do we all attend to this intention? (Not to mention the intentions and attentions of the institution itself from the POV of "profit maximizing" -tuition exploitation coupled with pandering to corporate and government military industrial agendas.)
with the example given here of the "race class gender" course. of course, this is a critical concern to be addressed in societies rife with hate and discrimination. BUT the intentions and attentions that I see too often are NOT about setting things right, BUT counter-productively create an angst filled contentious student body that loses track of the more practical side of education (career preparation). what kind of job can you get with a race-class-gender degree aside from teaching about race class gender? I support making some of these mandatory electives, but not whole majors. at the hospital where I work, we had a diversity trainer come in to show us the light on being sensitive to various minorities. this made sense because it was CONTEXTUALIZED in an area where it could be DIRECTLY APPLIED, and when wisdom has this outlet, one can move back into a focus on the task at hand (treating patients.) So the TRUE ANGST created by these majors is that it fills the heads of students with "the facts and figures of injustice" devoid of any real world career avenue for its application. the student enters the real world with a lot of angst and a job flipping burgers.
Indeed!
My response to Iain's statement at approximately 10:55 is two words, Kent State.
Yep - this is some questionable stuff.
Thank you!
Maybe Dr McGilchrist doesn't want too much fame to crowd his personal life, but I think it would improve quite a few people's lives, for him to talk on Joe Rogan - As with many other people's comments, I think it's such an utter shame that these videos don't have more views. The book and film of The Master And His Emissary are absolutely phenomenal and so relevant today. All the best everyone.
Could it be that the movements exposing “isms” is a way of universal balancing. When whiteness has been centered is an imbalance and extreme. Ciujx it be the that that white supremacy spawned it’s opposite in all the ism movements…which I think is dangerously moving being the thing it is fighting? The chaos perhaps self correcting, self balancing towards equilibrium. Equilibrium is not static, it always in flux and flow. Also, although I very much appreciate and respect Dr. McGilchrist works. We must reMember that his perception and language in expressing the inexpressible along with the environments and cultures that inform his mindset and worldview May sit very differently with different people. When people say things like absolutely, only, best, greatest it can only be from their perspective and experiences. I say this to invite us to explore how uttered or written language can confound us and can never explain, encompass or illustrate the unknown or unknownable.
Whiteness is a variety from Pinkness to Pastyness to Tannedness to many other varieties and hues and complexions... You seem to think the Ethnicity tick-box is reality, y'know the little tick-box on forms to fill in.
Sounds like a return to a classical education modified for the present.
I understand what you're saying and agree. But I think you assume good faith on the part of the interlocutors. This is usually true but not always. And it becomes a problem when those not dialoguing in good faith have money and power.
Why would you assume Bad Faith right out of the gate? What does money and power have to do with a teacher teaching a student? What's wrong with Good Faith in any initial human interaction?
@@VillemarMxO I don't. But I can be convinced.
@@evanhadkins5532 I think I might understand. I'm just exhausted with the "hermeneutics of suspicion" that seems to permeate everything these days. Good Faith until proven otherwise seems the only sensible approach.
@@VillemarMxO Yes, the hermeneutics of suspicion is exhausting. It can also slip in to attributing motive, which is (at least) impolite.
He’s fighting for his kind.
He’s trying to argue that studying racism feminism and identity politics politics in general is about simplifying and categorising the world. It’s not. It’s not attempting to describe the world, only part of it.
It’s trying to describe how differences at the demographic level influence our society and peoples experiences in it.
He is full of caricatures of the people he doesn’t like, which is basically the left, women, people who are not like him, enough said. Far as he’s concerned they are all closed minded ignorant types you don’t appreciate the past. What utter nonsense. He really is a bitter old man.
He wants to make sure not so much that he keeps his privilege but that no one else has quite as much privilege as he has.
Ahahahahaaha
I don't think he's as much bitter as a product of a highly privileged background with plenty of time to enjoy art, literature and write weighty books. We could all come up with how capitalist patriarchal society is so depressingly exploitative and so many suffer from a lack of access to opportunities...the question is, what is the route to change????
@@kathleenbrady9916 - Hi Kathleen, you are so right, and we need to do it now, I’m seeing carnage, I’m a psychotherapist and I’m working closely as a friend with a vulnerable woman whose been abused by a powerful man and then denied justice, it’s sickening and upsetting and draining and damaging. I’ve seen institutional discrimination right up in my face and it has shocked me. And it is so hard to find support, we have felt on our own. My friend who I am helping is a working class autistic adult woman with learning disabilities. She is a truly wonderful woman who is herself a great gift to the world and yet she has said to me ‘I have no future’, ‘I have no friends’, ‘everyone wants to bully me’, I have wept and wept for her. It’s all so wrong.
Have you ever taught kids? It's really easy to teach them identity politics so they can say things such as:
1. "Teacher, that's against my human rights!"
2. "Teacher that's racist!"
3. "Teacher that's sexist!"
It's much much harder to teach them mathematics than the above, which might interest you and not surprise you to hear...
@@commentarytalk1446 - teaching mathematics and about civil rights are not in competition, both can and should be done.
It’s harder to teach kids maths than it is to teach them to cross the road but that’s no excuse to not teach them to cross the road.
Kids need to be able to understand their rights and responsibilities and recognise when discrimination when they see it, and school is the right place to teach them that.
What about conservatism or capitalism. You're a great thinker and l love you're work but you can be as one sided as any other ismist Iain.
Sounds good, but try telling that to incompetent Tories who just want to dominate and make money. How do you suggest your vision takes over? 😂😂