NEW Perception Pescador Pilot 120 Pedal Drive Kayak
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Introducing the NEW Perception Pescador Pilot Pedal Drive Kayak!
This may be the most affordable pedal drive kayak to hit the market so far. KayakDIY interviews Jake, Perception Rep, at ICAST 2016 and together they discuss what the kayak has to offer. Can't wait to get one on the water for testing! I have loved my Perception kayaks.
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I bought one and love it! Very solid, fast, has great weight capacity, tracks well and is stable. I can throw a cast net out of it. The down sides are the factory rod holders (they're horrible) and the lack of internal storage. I really like the pedal drive. Easy to pedal and lifts up out of the way with no prop exposed when in shallow water. Best part is this kayak is now $1499 on Amazon (freight included).
I'm in need of an upgrade on my kayak and one way or another i want a pedal drive. Thank you for the insight on all of the kayaks! keep them coming please. it really is helping us make informed decisions.
Thanks for the feedback. That is exactly why I do it. I have turned down sponsorships specifically so that I can continue showing you all a wide array of brands.
Great Video! Excited for this one to hit the market. Great value compared to others in the pedal driven kayak market. Thanks for the hard work you do and for listening to viewers.
I second that! High five 👋 to KDIY for his work, and two high fives 👋👋 for listening AND responding to viewers.
+Tech Zombie Thanks Doug and Tech Z for your support. You make my job a lot of fun!
Bravo .. .. No gimmick$$ pedal driven , hands free fishing kayak . About Time . Top marks to Perception . And thanks KDIY for best look yet .
For Jake 👍👍
Your videos are better than the manufacturer's videos. Great job. Thanks.
+Howdy Yall Thank you very much. It is nice to get feedback from viewers. Thanks for watching my videos and supporting me in doing what I love!
Thank you for bringing this hidden gem to us! This looks like a great alternative to those rich man's petal kayaks! (I won't mention any names, but everyone knows what brand I'm talking about!)
The only thing that really concerns me is there is no in-hull storage. Where do you put your rods when travelling, or going through mangroves, for instance? You can't have all of them out, unless you want to lose a couple! I also wouldn't leave home without a paddle, because we all know stuff happens. Where would I put it? Its interesting that they put reflectors in the peddles, is that just in case you run a ground?! To me it looks like they covered everything "design" wise, but didn't think about actual, everyday use. They should have an actual fisherman consult with them.
Another thing is I've heard the gear ratio is 6-to-1, I wonder how that's going to effect peddling? I know that guy said "easy cruising on the water," but saying it and doing it are two different things.
I think for the price, it will open up a whole new world to us poor people! Even with obvious things they didn't consider.
Without knowing much, I'd have to say the zero draft feature is nice, and I like the fact that its still attached to the boat. If you flip over, it ain't going any where. That's always a plus!!! I also like the storage pods in the front. I can see one filled with ice and becoming a cooler already!
I might have to do some serious saving and skip a few meals for this, but I think it will totally be worth it.
Dying for some hands on reviews!
+Larry Talbot if Perception can get us one we would love to review it on the water. We have some companies that have committed to sending us kayaks but waiting on Perception. We have invested a lot of money into camera gear specifically to enhance on the water tests footage. For example we bought a drone for aerial views and have a virtual reality 360 camera on pre-order. The commercial drone license required pricey drone registration, TSA background check, and aeronautical exam. We are committed to getting you the most information and engaging content.
My family owns 3 Perception kayaks and they are top quality. I was personally impressed by the Pilot, but do agree some tweaks could be made. The price is well worth it for what I saw.
I hope they send you one! Not only would it be good for your subscribers, but it would also be good publicity for them. I hope they understand that.
I'm glad you are about your viewers/subscribers. I've noticed a lot of channels just want viewers or subscribers. I look for content first. No one wants to sit through 30mn of a guy bragging about the 3k kayak he just bought, when the rest of us can barely afford a new paddle!
Than you for caring!!!
Larry Talbot Thank you very much Larry. That may have been the nicest posted comment I have received. Appreciate it. I definitely strive to give my subscribers/viewers the best content. I never want to appear to be bragging. I did just buy a $6k kayak only because it is a sailing kayak and could be useful in my area. I had to save up a lot and sell my PA14 that has been seen a lot on the channel. I also still own a Perception Rambler 135 tandem and hope to get the Pilot. Only kayaks from ICAST that I am currently receiving are the Uncharted Watercraft portable kayaks. Just awaiting correspondence from manufacturer. I strive to remain non-bias and simply give folks the information they need to make their own decision. Almost every brand has something unique to offer. I try to highlight that.
Waiting for the on water reviews. This could be in my plastic fleet in 2017.
Hoping to be one to review...I would likely want to add one to my fleet as well!
+KayakDIY hey man what's the width on the new Pescador Pro
Chad Williams This kayak (Pescador Pilot) in the video has a width of 33.75". The one you mention (Pescador Pro 120) is 32.50" wide.
+KayakDIY thanks bud
was looking into the pro 12 now looks like i will be waiting for this bad mamajamma.... awesome video
Looks terrific. I may be sold if they can offer a switch out kit for the long blade propeller since I am interested in shallow estuaries for this sort of boat. My other concern is the lack of area for standing with this model. Otherwise it looks great!
seems like a nice cheaper option but I think you just cant beat the native...very stable, you can stand up easily, built nicely, and the drive is nice to look at in my opinion...I also see getting anything dropped caught into those chair rails. the rudder that both the predator and this one look like they were thrown on...I will say I like the storage pod idea though..and the quick prop up..
Great price!! I'm getting one for my birthday
Nice Yak. But I ended going with Native 10 when it on sale for $2000 with delivery. I like to sight fish and Native Yaks has been tested and proven for its stability.
Need 2 make something for saltwater offshore
was ready to pull the trigger on a new slayer 13 propel, now I might have to wait after seeing this
+angler152 Native Slayer is a great kayak, but check out our other ICAST videos. There are lots of pedal kayaks new this year. The Pescador pilot is the lowest priced one we have seen. Perception puts out great quality products. I own a Perception Rambler 13.5 tandem paddle kayak and it has been very reliable. So much so that 3 of my family members bought their own!
most of the other pedal kayaks pedal system seems to be big and bulky. I like the idea of being able to go to 0 draft and propulsion unit is in the water still and on the top side moves towards the bow and kind of out of the way and having a bigger deck space. Not to mention the price tag, which means extra money for accessories
I just bought one today and returned it in a span of about 30 mins. I'm glad the guys at Academy asked if I wanted them to assemble everything. Everything was fine until assembly. Parts were missing and parts from the store display had to be cannibalized to complete mine. Parts and assemblies on mine differed from the floor model as well. The metal rod used to keep the drive in place could not be secured. The holes were not lined up. The holes for the bracket around the drive system weren't drilled in the correct place and were misaligned. I was very disappointed. The guys at Academy did their very best to try and help me but I decided to listen to my gut that this was a significant flaw. That and the shallow rod holders. I got a refund. The original thing that sold me was that it was a less expensive version of a Native Kayak and a video of a guy standing in it and not being able to capsize it. I am going to wait for a Native Kayak.
+KEEPitREEL wow! Sounds like terrible experience. Thanks for sharing. Hobie released the Compass. It doesn't have reverse but is only a bit more in price. Just thought I would share. I hold no affiliation.
Thanks for the video brother, I've got to start working some OT to be ready when it comes out.
Same here! Hope to get Perception to send me one for in depth review and rigging.
Wow! Great price on that. Are there any fishing reviews on this yet with good water footage or comparisons to Native and Hobie?
Sacramento Sportsman's show 2017 in a few weeks going to check this out. Looks great but what does it weight outfitted?
awesome kayak
will there be other color options for the kayak? or will this be the only one for this model? a red one would be sweet! just asking.
+felt rock solid
thanks for checking out the Perception! I like that boat. I was curious on one thing, can the pedal drive be removed? Just in case your going somewhere you know you won't use it (shallow rivers, marshes).
+HyJinX I believe it can. I think I recall pins that if removed allow it to be removed from the kayak. It looks to be one of the lightest pedal drives (visually not confirmed).
+KayakDIY - from the video, it appears that it is removable. And I'm sure Perception thought that thru, including a cover or plug for thay spot. 👍
+KayakDIY thanks, i hope so. i have the old psecador 12(the one with the wet butt) and i think this will be my upgrade. Plenty of time between now and early 2017 to learn more and get the funds to get this nice looking boat.
I have a Pescador (Angler) 12 too, and use a lot of (lost) practice golf balls every summer! They just don't seem to make it to the next trip! I think this would be an awesome upgrade. I love the idea of not sitting in water all day! I had to resort to buying a throwable, just to keep out of the water.
The only difference is I stuff my paddle and rods in the hull during transport. I don't know how I'm supposed to transport them with the Pilot. 4 rod holders would be great for trolling, but how to get the rods there without getting them broken? I lug mine of the back of my pick-up, so there not a spare inch for anything else, once my PFD, and gear is loaded.
seems like a great deal
KayakDIY, so I've been looking at a native slayer as well, been hearing people talk about extra parts in case a break ,do u think perception will offer these supplies for buyers ?
Did the pedal drive feel sturdy or like it was cheaply made? How does id feel compared to the Native Propel?
Felt rock solid. It also was less bulky than many others. I had no concerns.
how would it do in salt water with tides and stuff?
I'm very interested in buying a kayak that I can use on my local lakes, but can handle itself on open ruff water. How well would this one perform in water like that?
+Isaac Bos likely quite well in a mix of water types. The tri-hull design is very similar to one of my other Perception kayaks which does quite well. If Perception sends me one I would gladly put it through its paces in a wide array of water conditions.
great video, but they cheated us on the flush mount rod holders, i know its late but that was false advertising at it best
That is kind of how iCAST works. Most kayaks shown there are prototypes and subject to alterations.
Did they give a approximate weight on this without pedal drive?
They didn't specifically note that but the pedal drive seems lighter weight than the other pedal drives of different brands. They list total weight in the video. I would guess the drive weighs for sure less than 12lbs but I could be wrong. Totally a guess. If I find out I will give more specifics.
Perception says that it is stable, but I'm curious if he means stable for use on a lake, or stable enough to take this kayak into back bays/inshore fishing (within a mile of shore)?
+Ryan Landolfi I think it could handle backbays/inshore fishing. Can't speak further unless they send me one to test.
Thanks! Hope they do send you one so you can demo and share your experience!
Thanks...Hope they do too. Would definitely love to get my hands on one for viewers. #perceptionkayaks @perceptionyaks
Those are 2 different kinds of stability!
Does this boat come with the rudder system installed?
+Randy Gilbreath yes...it will come with rudder because it needs one for the pedal drive.
Great Yak for the price
Couldn't agree more. It will be the most affordable pedal driven kayak from what I can tell. Haven't overheard any manufacturer producing a pedal drive kayak for less. I own a Perception tandem kayak and have been impressed with the quality, durability, and value.
I know it's a pedal drive but what if i need to use the paddle, where are the foot braces?
They didn't have foot braces that I noticed. They likely didn't want to impede on the flat usable deck space for folks that want to fish standing. Braces could be easily added and likely wouldn't cost much.
+KayakDIY cool! Im excited to see this is person and read more reviews. This might be my next kayak. Thank you and very nice video!
I assume that it has reverse?
+Mike Burdette Yes, the propeller drive pedal systems of all brands at ICAST had reverse. Simply pedal in opposite direction to change direction.
When will they be available for sale?
Jan. 2017
I'm wondering how long will it be before a kayak is fitted with a livewell like your average bass boat
Seems like I saw someone with an outside the hull "basket" for a live well today. I don't recall which video it was though.
I have one of those made with PVC piping and a laundry bag
Malibu kayaks had livewell options similar to what you are thinking of.
Seen folks make those. Great for certain freshwater areas...not so great for saltwater (predators). :)
+KayakDIY thanks I am about to look it up now.
I'm going to take out a loan from the bank to buy this kayak. That is the only way I can afford this boat.
Sanjay Anand Pau
Get a hobie....
any idea as to when it drops????
I think late this year around December. Although it depends on the feedback they get from the prototype. Most of the new kayaks we saw had late Nov/Dec 2016 release dates. Very few had January 2017 release dates.
I thought that release date was kind of odd anyway. Usually anything new and exciting (especially something like this can count turn the market on its ear!) they will try to go after that Christmas money.
Too bad the seat doesn't have height adjustability like some of the other pedal drive kayaks. You figure if this boat had high, low, and recline maybe for 200 dollars more it would be so much better. Still a great boat as usb but if only it had that option.
nice
Can the steering be moved to the right?
+TigerSaint I don't recall information on that. It is a prototype so maybe they will read your comment and include it as option. The manufacturers have been watching our videos.
+KayakDIY thx. That's a make or break for me.
I think most kayaks default to left hand steering. Nearly every pedal kayak i saw had left hand steering. Most were molded in such a way that I don't think they intended on having a right hand steering option.
Oh man... I'm almost sold on this...
+isoplus3513 What has you holding back. Just curious. I like viewers opinions. I have had used several pedal driven kayaks. This one seemed like a nice clean no crazy extra frills setup. No judging here...just curious what you think needs improvement. It is still prototype stage so maybe Perception will read this and take your suggestions.
I would purchase this kayak as soon as it becomes available if I had not purchased a new kayak earlier this season... sigh... a well built fishing kayak with a pedal drive under $2,000 is an excellent deal I think...
I hear you. Unless they send me one for testing I too would even need to sell some kayaks. Definitely a great deal compared to the market. Thanks for stopping by. I will be uploading more content today and in upcoming week. Lots of cool stuff at ICAST!
Its even cheaper than the "other" one they sell. That kayak doesn't even come with the drive! I can't imagine spending all that money on a kayak and not getting the drive with it! Sure you can buy it later, but how many people really have that kind of money laying around? The Pilot is the answer! Finally!!!
folks this kayak has me sold and change my mind on a hobie this tax season what better way to spend less and throw in more in accessories ,but even the bigger picture here ,I've watch every video on this yak and first thought is ,if the pedal drive does go out at some point this bracket is trolling motor ready imo ,would be a easy swap ,only disappointing thing is no video showed in side the back hatch, is it full hull or what and didn't show us rly how deep the front pods are ,if I could make one adjustment it be the front would have a dry pod like the hobie ! we need detailed video on this yak ,as I will have to buy b4 testing it bc my area doesn't offer that!
4:54 DOES NOT TURN INSIDE ITS OWN RADIOUS
Turn radius is easily 3X the boats length(40 foot)
+Old School Hand thanks for your feedback. That statement was made by Perception staff not me. Do you own one?
Yes I do,I know everything inch of this platform now
Several pretty junky workings that require fixing and redoing with aftermarket parts
Entry level PDL at the end of the day
How long are the gear tracs
Would prefer a lid for the front hatch, so all my stuff isn't exposed to the elements and my camera pictures I take, it'll be a mess up there with all my stuff lying under the tarp , would rather it be all hidden under a lid.
+Nash Guy they have two smaller lid covered hatches at bow. I would definitely get a waterproof bag. I actually prefer the netting tray they have. Kayaks with hatches are nice but I often have contents slide out of reach within the hall and that can become annoying.
I was referring to the front bow hatch itself not the inside of hull. Most kayaks usually have a hard shell insert or bag to keep your contents from going anywhere. But thanks I was not aware of the 2 smaller hatches at the front. Possibly interested in this pedal yak , problem is where am I going to be able to get it, being that I live in London Ontario Canada, it will prob cost me more which i'll prob pass on it if that's the case.
You said a mouthful! I have a pair of excellent shades that slipped out of my gear bag, that I still haven't found! I can hear them, sometimes when I transport, but they seem to get stuck some where out of sight. I've flipped that kayak every which way and still can't seem to find them!
Do they have metal? Maybe a magnet on a rope would work? Also use your camera on your phone to look inside the kayak. Then you can turn the kayak to maybe get the shades out.
i heard these are on recal and no warranty will be accepted.
+Leo Renner I haven't heard that yet. Will look into that. Send link to info if you have it. I have honestly been quite happy with my Perception kayaks.
KayakDIY there is a dealer called economy tackle in sarasota fla. they advised me not to buy it as it has a recal. apparently the peddle system wont stay in or something like that
Leo Renner thanks for the info! I will continue to follow this as well. I really liked the Pilot for the money. Hope they resolve it and stand behind their product.
I heard the nuts on the prop would come loose but the problem was fixed by a washer on each side and now they are shipping them with these washers .. just what I've heard .. will be ordering mine very soon
Joseph Barela callled customer service today. the guy i spoke with didnt seem excited to talk to me at all. was a dull conversation. i went with another hobie. made a smart choice
Couple more hundreds gets your self a hobie, I'll passed..heard their customer service is also poor ... they need to work on a lot of things before they get my business
Appreciate your feedback and feelings on the Perception Pescador Pilot. What areas concern you regarding the Pilot? What have you heard?
Just curious.
well if somebody happens to get this b4 me ,give me your honest opinion b4 I drop $1800, instead of $3500 on hobie ,tax season can't come early enough !
+blue grass Bassin Personally I don't think you can go wrong with either one. However, you must be referring to Hobie PA14 at that price. Hobie Outback for mid range price definitely doesn't leave one with buyer's remorse. It does great in a wide range of waters. I can't speak about Pilot because I haven't had it on the water. The Perception Pescador Pilot is a steal from what I saw at ICAST. Nothing else compares for the price. Pedal drives are ideal for kayak fishing. I own Perceptions and will say they build fine products at great prices.
KayakDIY yea a pa14 what I was thinking ! I've been watching videos over and over trying to talk my self in the pa14 lol but this price has me , but from videos it's hard to believe this has a 525lbs weight cap ,looks like not too much sticks out of the water to begin with ,and also diy what do you think on a person fishing with this in water that has a lot of stand up timber and also your thoughts on it being new too them (the peddle drive ) think it will hold
The Perception kayak has a great tri-hull type design that provides a lot of displacement for its appearance. This leads to great weight capacity. They have a lot of kayaks with really great weight capacity and i own/owned a few. The pedal/prop drive of the Pilot will likely do equally fine in timber. It might suffer in stringy weeds unlike the Mirage Drive which seems to do fine. Prop drives occasionally can bind some from weeds wrapping around prop. Mirage drive will do better in shallow waters. The pedal/prop drives can't really adjust trim (depth). It is an all or none depth setting. Mirage drives can have flippers up against the bottom of hull to nearly a zero draft and still propel the kayak fwd/rev with fine pedal movements. I may be slightly biased having had several Hobies. I however, think the Pilot for the price is a great buy and is a major competitor with other pedal/prop drives but not with the mirage drive. The mirage drive only downside is you still must pull a cord to switch fwd/rev...whereas the prop drives you just pedal backward. So not "truly" 100% handsfree for the mirage drive.
KayakDIY yeah I understand both ,I've looked at getting a pa for 2 years now ,it not the price that stops me as much as it is transportation, the perception is more the size of my ascend fs12t and I all ready Know it a pain transporting sometimes, same weight as well as the perception, and yeah there no weeds where I fish so that wouldn't be a problem
We have a transportation video playlist. Not sure if any of the solutions help. We are working to get more options/videos for viewers. I used the hitch hauler bed extender with my Honda Ridgeline for the PA14.