@Bob Hill No doubt. Perhaps beauty comes from both harmony, and dissonance. Anyway you you slice it, I like stuff that goes bang. Computer over electric is the future, (sigh), but glad I get to see this.
@Bob Hill I can see you are a man of both, class, and taste, but not a discriminating man, just knowledgeable in your own taste, a rare UA-cam Gentleman. Cheers, my freind !
@Bob Hill glad to resonate with someone like myself. I hoist a cold one, brother, knowing I could do the same in your backyard. Nice to have a wholesome experience on the UA-cam.
Yay, you've got my two favourites here - the Cizeta and the Auto Union Type C. It's amazing what a good team of engineers can do - the aluminium used in the Auto Union's engines is roughly the same grade we'd find now in garden furniture. Phenomenal stuff for the time. MOAR CYLINDERS IS MOAR BETTER!
A 2-stroke diesel is not boosted unless there is back pressure on the exhaust. Therefore a mechanically supercharged engine is indeed naturally aspirated. This is unique to 2-stokes. It isn't possible to fill the cylinder beyond ambient pressure until the exhaust is used to drive the turbine.
You can boost a 2 stroke like the Detroit diesel because the exhaust valve is closed before the intake. The reason the supercharged version is considered NA is because it takes the place of crankcase induction on a traditional 2 stroke. The engine simply won't run without the supercharger.
This is not entirely true. The principle purpose of the blower is to scavenge exhaust and replace with fresh air. However, most 2 stroke diesels close the exhaust valves or ports before closing the intake ports, creating at least a,small amount of supercharging.
@@tracylemme1375 totally wrong. Intake never opens before the exhaust and can’t close on a ported two stroke anything, diesel or gas . If they open the intake with pressure in the cylinder and hot exhaust would dilute the intake charge with spot and co3
@@dennisford2000 It's all about timing, the ex valve will always open before the intake port is opened. Tracy Lemme is right about the purpose of the blower. The ex valve closing is what changes everything, for naturally aspirated the ex valve will close after the intake port. For supercharged the valve will close before. Exhaust back pressure does nothing.
I was the fortunate & proud rig electrician who took care of six EMD V20-2160v generators & one V12 stby generator on a very large, dynamically positioned drill-ship owned by the Reading and Bates drilling company. One of my other favourite 16 cylinder engines was the Coventry Climax flat 16 racing engine from the 1960's. I've never seen it mentioned on this, or any other engine related site. I wonder why ?
I made a mistake in my praise of EMD's: The V20's put out 4160Volts @ 900rpm, not 2160v. The V12 put out 480v on a separate buss system to run the ship when propulsion and drilling operations weren't in use.
I really enjoy your channel Sir. Thank you. You have done so much research and i like the way you present the important data, numbers, history, etc. I find myself rewinding each item back to the opening slides with HP, RPM, etc. Have worked on EMDs, but until i watched this, I didn't know they are considered naturally aspirated. You must be a total engine nerd, me too. :)
You sir, are amazing. You find some of the coolest and weirdest engines and I love it. The BRM V-16, is unreal 1500cc engine and 600 hp @ 12K... WOW...
3:18 'Drove' BRM's P115 in Grand Prix Legends. Amazing engine and fabulous sound, but a complete and utter slug compared to the Lotus 49. The 49 is Cosworth DFV powered all season in GPL, unlike reality where the DFV made its debut at the 1967 Dutch GP at Zandvoort (good to be back in 2021!)
I love your videos! But if I can give a suggestion as a fellow video-editor; speed up the animations for engine stats by 2x or 4x, and keep them on screen for far longer (like 6+seconds if not for the whole segment). It would improve the clarity of information in your videos and probably increase watch time too. I find myself needing to pause as some of the engine stats are only fully on screen for a second or two.
I want to build a pair of Ford 460s into a V16, 15 liters and around 800hp. For a car to put it in, build something with a bunch of styling cues from the Buick Y Job, Cord, and others from that era, just fairly large and luxurious.
The CZ V16T, despite being two V8 , is a true V16 in the sense that the block and the crankshaft are both cast in one piece. The power takeoff is indeed in the middle, and it has mechanical fans on each side. It still retains a somewhat V8 sound from this arrangement. Also, despite being a complete crap, I love the sound of the BRM H16. It's out of this world, pretty hellish. Note that this engine is made of two 180° V8 on top of each other, and not flat (boxers) engines. It is seriously unbalanced by design.
Jeezzzaaas that BRM boosting 5.2bar it had to use high octane petrol for sure. Here i go battling to go over 1.5bar on my turbo golf i build without it detonation. Amazing some of these designs. Especially the auto unions. Who would have thought that a car in the late 30s can drive over 300km per hour. Germans don't play games
Curious. It seems as though engines whose cylinder counts are a multiple of eight have the same sound, with the halfway exception of a V8(Having either a roar or a scream depending on the crankshaft). Straight eights, despite having a roar like that of a V8, has an evenly distributed firing order, so by that, a V16 likely has an even firing order among the cylinder banks.
As both H8 engines BRM were using would've been dry-sump lubricated, they may have had more success with their 16 cylinder F1 car if they'd just rebuild the chassis to hold the two engines paired vertically to alleviate the problem of the lower engine overheating the engine just above it! Easier to adjust fuel-mixtures & lubricant-distribution than trying to prevent heat rising!
So Giorgio Moroder the guy who gave the World disco music, Donna Summer and electronic dance music also gave us a weird 16pot sports car. Who woulda thunk?
The two stroke diesels do have compressors becasue they need them to breathe, and concidered NA because they dont run with very high overboost if any at all. Roughly 1 bar or just enough needed.
I read an SAE paper on the EMD 567, and it said the maximum pressure from the Roots blower was 8 psi at 900 rpm, which was its maximum speed. Air chest pressure increased approximately linearly from 100 to 900 rpm.
EMD made a LOT of them. I've seen Caterpillar engines in switching locomotives in the US, and I've seen pictures of MAN diesels in some European switching engines. They're generally the same size as small to medium ship engines, or the kinds of generators that are the size of a semi trailer.
8:12 I see Bugatti as anything but French, to be fair. Ettore Bugatti wasn't French, the company was founded in Germany, Bugatti was in Italy during the production of the EB110, and now I see Bugattis as glorified Volkswagens- DSG, WR engine, Haldex system, even the chimes on earlier Veyrons were full Volkswagen. It's not even a French name, german engineering, because Bugatti is Italian.
Initially, they bought them from Triumph and slapped a "SAAB" valve cover on them. My first car was a 72 SAAB 99e with an injected Triumph 1854cc slant 4. It was reverse-mounted to the top of the trans, using it as the wet sump. You can change the clutch in less than two hours.
@@coltr7561 If you think the Triumph engine and SAAB H engine are the same, you're very wrong. Same with their two-stroke and its Auto Union predecessor. "From scratch" is a nonsensical standard for automotive engineering. These are cars, not loaves of bread.
Am i the only one ,or are these constant ads for google, on here and television, beginning to give you the shits as well. I'll be using another search engine soon just to stop having my brain turned to mush by the bombardment of this crap.
It's funny how some 16 cylinders can sound beautiful and musical, some sound like chaos and destruction.
and a money swallower because you need more oil and fuel
@Bob Hill No doubt. Perhaps beauty comes from both harmony, and dissonance. Anyway you you slice it, I like stuff that goes bang. Computer over electric is the future, (sigh), but glad I get to see this.
@Bob Hill I can see you are a man of both, class, and taste, but not a discriminating man, just knowledgeable in your own taste, a rare UA-cam Gentleman. Cheers, my freind !
@Bob Hill glad to resonate with someone like myself. I hoist a cold one, brother, knowing I could do the same in your backyard. Nice to have a wholesome experience on the UA-cam.
@Bob Hill Cheers, my freind !!
Love it. These videos are like hanging out with my buddy Visio, and drinking coffee, while he tells me about cool stuff he knows.
Judging by his hat it's more like driving a Tatra 87 down the highway while listening to his cool stuff.
I couldn't have put it better myself. Cheers.
From the gutteral growl of the BRM V16 to the ethereal whine of the little Peugeot these are wild machines!
Yay, you've got my two favourites here - the Cizeta and the Auto Union Type C. It's amazing what a good team of engineers can do - the aluminium used in the Auto Union's engines is roughly the same grade we'd find now in garden furniture. Phenomenal stuff for the time.
MOAR CYLINDERS IS MOAR BETTER!
If you can’t do better add more of what you’ve got
That’s why american engines are so cheap and simple to work on yet still making insane power
You’d get a whole video out of the various engines Vincent Foucart has had in that 205!
A 2-stroke diesel is not boosted unless there is back pressure on the exhaust. Therefore a mechanically supercharged engine is indeed naturally aspirated. This is unique to 2-stokes. It isn't possible to fill the cylinder beyond ambient pressure until the exhaust is used to drive the turbine.
You can boost a 2 stroke like the Detroit diesel because the exhaust valve is closed before the intake. The reason the supercharged version is considered NA is because it takes the place of crankcase induction on a traditional 2 stroke. The engine simply won't run without the supercharger.
This is not entirely true. The principle purpose of the blower is to scavenge exhaust and replace with fresh air. However, most 2 stroke diesels close the exhaust valves or ports before closing the intake ports, creating at least a,small amount of supercharging.
@@tracylemme1375 totally wrong. Intake never opens before the exhaust and can’t close on a ported two stroke anything, diesel or gas . If they open the intake with pressure in the cylinder and hot exhaust would dilute the intake charge with spot and co3
@@dennisford2000 It's all about timing, the ex valve will always open before the intake port is opened. Tracy Lemme is right about the purpose of the blower. The ex valve closing is what changes everything, for naturally aspirated the ex valve will close after the intake port. For supercharged the valve will close before. Exhaust back pressure does nothing.
@@troubleracing6993 research. 4-51 Detroit Diesel . Usually the cam is not important for a turbo non turbo Detroit . It’s the injectors.
I love the sound of the EMD.
Redline is like 900 rpm, but they sound like 9000, it's awesome.
samd
@@chromolyelixirsociety6672Is it any different with the SD45 and SD80MAC? Those have the V20 variant of the 645 and 710.
I wish Fourcart had kept that V16 in the car. That has to be one of the craziest sounding vehicles ever made.
the peugeot v16 sounds like an rc car lmao
I was the fortunate & proud rig electrician who took care of six EMD V20-2160v generators & one V12 stby generator on a very large, dynamically positioned drill-ship owned by the Reading and Bates drilling company. One of my other favourite 16 cylinder engines was the Coventry Climax flat 16 racing engine from the 1960's. I've never seen it mentioned on this, or any other engine related site. I wonder why ?
I made a mistake in my praise of EMD's: The V20's put out 4160Volts @ 900rpm, not 2160v. The V12 put out 480v on a separate buss system to run the ship when propulsion and drilling operations weren't in use.
Giorgio Moroder's car looks like it should have been on "Miami Vice".
Sounds like a city bus to tell the truth.
@@massmike11 Like a 6V92 with a Voith Diwa or something
My name is Giovanni Giorgo, but everyone calls me Giorgio
@@massmike11 Iirc they had to use a truck/bus gearbox to take the torque, so that would make sense.
Im a huge fan you are the goat of car channels 💯💯 much love from Virginia Visio
Stick shifting a 16 Cilinder.. Damn what a time. Now is everything automatic -_-
I love the sound of the EMD!
Your channel has grown so much, keep it going bro!
Finally someone gives credit to Jimenez Novia.
I really enjoy your channel Sir. Thank you. You have done so much research and i like the way you present the important data, numbers, history, etc. I find myself rewinding each item back to the opening slides with HP, RPM, etc.
Have worked on EMDs, but until i watched this, I didn't know they are considered naturally aspirated. You must be a total engine nerd, me too. :)
Wow! There are some incredible engines! I love your content and learn something in every video. Thank you!
The Cizeta is gorgeous.
6:37 Chap on the left; "Why is my camera not working?"
Another interesting and enjoyable video,thanks for digging up information on some of the oddest engines out there. 👍
The BRM V16 sounds actually scary- it gives me goosebumps and I love it!
Gotta love how the EMD at high revs sounds kinda like a washing machine.
Weekends are for petrolheads!
Thanks I’m part to VisioRscer.
As far as I'm concerned - ANY 16 cylinder engine is a strange one. Great video as always!
You sir, are amazing. You find some of the coolest and weirdest engines and I love it. The BRM V-16, is unreal 1500cc engine and 600 hp @ 12K... WOW...
Another great show
Thank you for gathering all of this information and producing a video of it all! It's great to hear about the oddball/forgotten engines of time. :)
8:30 when you ride a bike and don't spect a vehicle sounding like this
Love the new graphics! Thanks!
Thanks! For many years train locomotives here in Denmark were powered by EMD 567 V16. I love how they sound :)
Cool video like always 😎😎 thank you
nice
My favourite was definitely the peogeot
A v16 in a 205 is Insane
7:43 amazing sound
Build a good V4 and just scale up to a V16 is easy
Another great video my friend!
The Cizeta-Moroder was a childhood fantasy for me
I used to work on the GM locomotive v20 engines who was definitely a lot of fun
3:18 'Drove' BRM's P115 in Grand Prix Legends.
Amazing engine and fabulous sound, but a complete and utter slug compared to the Lotus 49.
The 49 is Cosworth DFV powered all season in GPL, unlike reality where the DFV made its debut at the 1967 Dutch GP at Zandvoort (good to be back in 2021!)
Thanks for sharing this video 💪 greetings
Love the sound of that big GM diesel.
How bout some videos on the engines that keep the world going, like most common truck engines form Japan?
I love your videos! But if I can give a suggestion as a fellow video-editor; speed up the animations for engine stats by 2x or 4x, and keep them on screen for far longer (like 6+seconds if not for the whole segment). It would improve the clarity of information in your videos and probably increase watch time too. I find myself needing to pause as some of the engine stats are only fully on screen for a second or two.
Thank you for the tip!
@@VisioRacer I would also add a bit blurred background for the stats - it will be easier to read.
I thought you gotta show the obsecure Porsche flat-16 engine in here...
The Puegeot sounds more like a kid's rc car. But some them are very musical.
10:12 this totaly sounds like Union Pacific diesel trains 😃😃 also the same sound is in Train Simulator games
Anyone else think the EMD 2 stroke was still the best sounding engine?
I was a bit disappointed that a twin turbo Paxman YHXL V16 wasn't mentioned. All that complication for just 800 bhp.
I want to build a pair of Ford 460s into a V16, 15 liters and around 800hp. For a car to put it in, build something with a bunch of styling cues from the Buick Y Job, Cord, and others from that era, just fairly large and luxurious.
the 205 sounds like a full size RC car
Just a small correction, Hermione style XD. Fangio is pronounced ''FAN-Hee-O'', in spanish, the ''G'' is pronounced as a ''H''.
Love your videos!
Another awesome video!
The V16 BRM is a masterpiece of humanity
8:30 makes it all worth it XD they got spooked...
Love this channel!
The Novia was created by my father's friend in Monteux, Paca, France
Happy to see this legendary car here !! 😁
Have you heard of the w16 LS engine that is used for dirt track racing with Sprint cars.
The CZ V16T, despite being two V8 , is a true V16 in the sense that the block and the crankshaft are both cast in one piece. The power takeoff is indeed in the middle, and it has mechanical fans on each side. It still retains a somewhat V8 sound from this arrangement.
Also, despite being a complete crap, I love the sound of the BRM H16. It's out of this world, pretty hellish. Note that this engine is made of two 180° V8 on top of each other, and not flat (boxers) engines. It is seriously unbalanced by design.
Jeezzzaaas that BRM boosting 5.2bar it had to use high octane petrol for sure. Here i go battling to go over 1.5bar on my turbo golf i build without it detonation. Amazing some of these designs. Especially the auto unions. Who would have thought that a car in the late 30s can drive over 300km per hour. Germans don't play games
My favourite 16 cylinder is the Isdera Autobahnkurier...
Curious. It seems as though engines whose cylinder counts are a multiple of eight have the same sound, with the halfway exception of a V8(Having either a roar or a scream depending on the crankshaft). Straight eights, despite having a roar like that of a V8, has an evenly distributed firing order, so by that, a V16 likely has an even firing order among the cylinder banks.
If I heard that Peugeot 205 coming towards me I would absolutely shit myself lmao
Favorite has to be all the small 16 cylinder motors based off of motorcycle engines.
Loved this
8:31 the guys on the right....yeah, I would be scared as well :D
2:55 woah, can this the first u engine car?!
As both H8 engines BRM were using would've been dry-sump lubricated, they may have had more success with their 16 cylinder F1 car if they'd just rebuild the chassis to hold the two engines paired vertically to alleviate the problem of the lower engine overheating the engine just above it!
Easier to adjust fuel-mixtures & lubricant-distribution than trying to prevent heat rising!
So Giorgio Moroder the guy who gave the World disco music, Donna Summer and electronic dance music also gave us a weird 16pot sports car.
Who woulda thunk?
Yes
The two stroke diesels do have compressors becasue they need them to breathe, and concidered NA because they dont run with very high overboost if any at all. Roughly 1 bar or just enough needed.
I read an SAE paper on the EMD 567, and it said the maximum pressure from the Roots blower was 8 psi at 900 rpm, which was its maximum speed. Air chest pressure increased approximately linearly from 100 to 900 rpm.
Thank you 🙏🏻
nice one bro
16 cylinders in an engine??? Damn normally those are in trains and it's a diesel electric hybrid.
Thanks
a 16-pot(ter) can be used to describe a giant engine or a German/Eastern European/Finn/Chinese...
do best production tuning v8s
8:31 - Ako sa zľakli 🤣
those big diesels...
hehe look at these people shitting their pants @8:32 cant stop laughing
Great video that. 😎
Excellent!
I still feel my ears bleeding by an EMD that throttles up...
The auto union is crazy
anyone noticed that 16 cylinder engines have almost the same sound note?
i knew emd would be on this list 😂
The marauder CiZeta should have a 355++ km/h
Any info on giant train engines? Couldnt tell you anything about them but i know they all crawl all over the world
EMD made a LOT of them. I've seen Caterpillar engines in switching locomotives in the US, and I've seen pictures of MAN diesels in some European switching engines.
They're generally the same size as small to medium ship engines, or the kinds of generators that are the size of a semi trailer.
Yea, more locomotive engines!!!!
8:12 I see Bugatti as anything but French, to be fair. Ettore Bugatti wasn't French, the company was founded in Germany, Bugatti was in Italy during the production of the EB110, and now I see Bugattis as glorified Volkswagens- DSG, WR engine, Haldex system, even the chimes on earlier Veyrons were full Volkswagen. It's not even a French name, german engineering, because Bugatti is Italian.
You sound like that dude from Ghostbusters 2 😂
i suddenly really need a jimenez novia
Love it
So many 16`s
Auto Union is by far the best sounding!!!
Nice hat 8D
Doesn't that make the Bugatti W16 a Quad Cam engine?
Can you explain Saab engines and the cars that got there engines
Initially, they bought them from Triumph and slapped a "SAAB" valve cover on them. My first car was a 72 SAAB 99e with an injected Triumph 1854cc slant 4. It was reverse-mounted to the top of the trans, using it as the wet sump. You can change the clutch in less than two hours.
Saab has no own engines, they used Triumph as base, also Ford engines
@@coltr7561 That's not true.
@@richsackett3423 what is not true?? Its very true, Saab has never made own engine from scratch
@@coltr7561 If you think the Triumph engine and SAAB H engine are the same, you're very wrong. Same with their two-stroke and its Auto Union predecessor. "From scratch" is a nonsensical standard for automotive engineering. These are cars, not loaves of bread.
Alfa V16 missing, dont know if its strange enough to this list-
Am i the only one ,or are these constant ads for google, on here and television, beginning to give you the shits as well. I'll be using another search engine soon just to stop having my brain turned to mush by the bombardment of this crap.
Love these videos! That Peugeot is satans ride!
some of these engines could do same nasty and badass burnouts. who agrees with me?
5:20 it writes in my language:)))) romanian