+KHMDarkness That would be hilarious. Honestly, there is nothing in the Sith Code which REQUIRES one to kill decent people. Juhani and Jolee, you folks chill out and I can send you back to a neutral planet after Malak is dead. Mission and Zaalbar, you two just stay put and you can join them if I am really so bad. Uh... Carth, I am probably going to destroy the Republic or at least overthrow it... Maybe it would be a good idea for you to run off if you are not on my side. All of that said, the Sith Code is about instinct and serving oneself. Pointless destruction and harshness are not implied at all, meaning that any Sith could still technically be "good". ...And have a beach party.
Yeah but IIRC Carth escapes to the Republic and tries to stop Revan as a fleet commander. Also, I thought he talks about how much more powerful jedi are vs him towards the beginning of the game.
Based on their characters, I always considered Mission to be the most light-side of them all. It's no surprise they respond vastly different to that news
Holy shit I didn't even know they'd throw in an option that brutal into the game. The whole time 14yr old me was just focused on hitting on bastila any chance I got.
It actually gets much darker. You can order Zalbaar to kill Mission and he will obey, though he betrays you on the Star Forge and so you kill him as well anyway.
@@pikaplayz5190 I remember the betrayal occurring at the very beginning just after you open the first door or so but before you face any enemies. I might be off a little on the timeline, but I am certain that I am close.
Zaalbar equipped for melee is one of the two best companions in the game. The enemy waves on the Star Forge are a piece of piss if you take him and Canderous.
Everyone always says they only bring the Jedi as party members because they’re that much BETTER. But for me, I almost always took canderous - his constitution and treaty injury are the best, so he’s super hard to kill. He’s been clutch so many times
tbh i'd expect Mission to run away rather than Carth but..... well this was hilarious Carth: You don't have to help the sith Mission, not while i am here... blablabla then he runs 10 seconds later. lol.
What was he gonna do against two jedi, a mandalorian, two droids and possibly zaalbar, running was the smartest thing to do unless he wanted to get obliterated. Better to run off and get the information out that revan is back than die stupidly
“The droids will continue to serve you, Revan - they’re programmed to obey their master.” HK-47 is just doing backflips because he knows this is his chance to slaughter millions again.
You mean to tell me you didn't manipulate The Wookie and use his life debt to you to make him kill the twi'lek because that's a lot more fun you're really bad Sith
Even being the Sith I wouldn't end at killing innocent people. I mean I can use the dark side but I don't see any point at being maniac and making a useless kills. It's more for psychopath siths
@@NekoLilium2012 HK is useless without upgrades. 16 in strength but can't use melee weapons, what where they thinking? And Canderous manadalorian honor bullshit is fucking annoying.
This game is the best compared to modern rpgs even. So many decisions, character builds and more. Although, killing mission breaks my heart. She's so naive and innocent. Although, Candor is a badass. This whole game is just good
Killing mordin in mass effect 3, he was trying to save the krogan race, but due to my poor decisions the krogans were led by a psychopath, so theyd be dangerous for the galaxy. So i had to kill him, my favorite companion. I felt so bad about it that i couldnt keep playing this game, and started anew from the first one.
I couldn't ever kill Mission. She's too useful for security and computer use...plus those two are my favorite companions in the game. Edit: Called her Vette by accident because of SWTOR.
Alright but really, T3 has way better hacking skills and is okay in combat if done right. Mission just doesn't have a lot going for her, she's like that character that tries to be everything instead of specializing. Which, given all your specialists isn't all that useful. I couldn't really understand Zaalbar's character very much. The tones and body language were lost and took away from his already strange story. And his cultural motivations weren't fleshed out soon enough. his stats were shadowed by the Jedi too, so he was mostly useless
You’re objectively wrong…. Mission has some of the highest damage output in the game. She’s the only character that gets max sneak attack. Pair it with a Jedi counselor who is stun and she literally one shots everything in the game.
@@dylanhicks4771 That and if you can't get much demolitions, having her as your bomb squad member is really helpful. She can get a lot of skill points too.
And loyalty to a Sith Lord can be very rewarding, especially if you can be valuable enough to not be killed when one is enraged...and provided that you do not get too careless.
That's not reasonable kind of ending for Mass Effect story, for any kind of character the only possible solution is to try to stop the Reapers. Another option is to be like Illusive man or Saren, that would be interesting to have as an ending option, but it would be in no way rewarding.
The only useful companions in this game is mission and iron bucket. Fights in this game are not that hard with some expensive gear and mediocre build, so unless you building Revan as max Intelligence character, mission is very useful.
This is so fucking evil dude wtf Where did this type of writing go comparsd to todays game???? I literally couldn't figure this out at all and im on dantooine. It took me negative time to figure out that Bode or in any other games that Mfer is going to betray us. I couldn't see this coming at all
I thought it was hilarious that you can kill mission. I thought she was sooo annoying but cute at the same time. And The wookie was useful, I never wanted to kill him. I enjoyed killing all the one though, I couldn't stand him.
Well, I play light side except for a few times just to see! I have Zaalbar up to a 30 strength with strength belt and Dominator Gauntlet using twin Bacca blades! Yes, I use the duplication glitch. Zaalbar is a Beast and I use him and Juhani on the entire Unknown Planet, even inside the temple using that glitch because Jolee is less than useless, and on the Star Forge. Even on Hard, Reven, Juhani, and Zaalbar walk right through everything from Rancors, droids, Sith, and soldiers like they are nothing! Both Jedi with strength belts and Dominator Gauntlets, so they have 20 strength. Sigil/Opari lightsabers against most, Sigil/Solaris when going into areas with lots of Sith. Yes, I use every cheat and shortcut in the book so that I am level 20 before I finish Korriban! I don't even buy HK, I don't do the Sunray trial because I don't like getting a guilty Man off free and I'm already level 20 so why bother. Also don't bother with the Wookie trial. So yes, I don't play fair even doing light side. I do some side quests, even the bounty hunting on my few Dark Side runs.
Ciaran Smith there are 5 locations to go to, one is Yavin. Keep visiting the guy there, and at the third or fourth visit, he'll be attacked. Save him to buy the two best colour crystals.
Given that Sam Maggs is writing for it, and she's renowned for her woke, feminist hot takes for every little thing in videogames, I wouldn't be surprised if Revan becomes non-binary. Sam Maggs is the same person that said that "tea bagging is ACTUAL virtual rape" and loves taunting male Star Wars fans as "Betas" on top of all of her other clear bait. However, I wouldn't be opposed to a female Revan option. Plenty of women like Star Wars too, I'd be all for that option
@@bradleypeters6656, there was an option during character customization to play as a lady. But I agree. I fear the remake shall be a vastly inferior story to the original.
@@bradleypeters6656 as soon as I heard Sam Maggs was writing it, I lost what little interest I had. I'd much rather have a remaster of this and sith lords than a remake.
I'd love if we could play Kotor after you beat game especially me who just finsihed DS ending and I'd love to be greeted wherever I go as Darth Revan and to search for Carth so i can slay him as well
Bastila: "Now swear loyalty to Darth Revan-"
*Uncorks a bottle of champagne.*
"Bastila: "So we can get this beach party started!"
KHMDarkness epic
Please tell me there is a mod for that
Glad to know I'm not the only one who thought that XD
Lol
+KHMDarkness
That would be hilarious. Honestly, there is nothing in the Sith Code which REQUIRES one to kill decent people. Juhani and Jolee, you folks chill out and I can send you back to a neutral planet after Malak is dead. Mission and Zaalbar, you two just stay put and you can join them if I am really so bad.
Uh... Carth, I am probably going to destroy the Republic or at least overthrow it... Maybe it would be a good idea for you to run off if you are not on my side.
All of that said, the Sith Code is about instinct and serving oneself. Pointless destruction and harshness are not implied at all, meaning that any Sith could still technically be "good".
...And have a beach party.
And as a bonus, Revan can give Bastila that fur coat she always wanted.
I appreciate that Revan says "They didn't make it," trying to be subtle about Jolee and Juhani, but Bastila immediately spills the beans.
Bastilla was always an annoying bastard
Lmao
She let on wayy to fast, coulda played those chumps for fools.
Lol, I love how one minute Carth says "I won't let you become the Sith Leader again" then the next minute he's running away leaving Mission to die.
He does tell her to run, but she won't cause she wants to stop them. I get the leaving her...
It be like that sometimes
Yeah but IIRC Carth escapes to the Republic and tries to stop Revan as a fleet commander. Also, I thought he talks about how much more powerful jedi are vs him towards the beginning of the game.
@dan p
THANK YOU
Based on their characters, I always considered Mission to be the most light-side of them all. It's no surprise they respond vastly different to that news
LMAO Carth sprinted off and left a 14 year old girl for dead
What a madlad
"You don't have to help the Sith, Mission! Not while I'm here"
*runs away*
Looks like she's helping the sith then lol
acted wisely
Holy shit I didn't even know they'd throw in an option that brutal into the game. The whole time 14yr old me was just focused on hitting on bastila any chance I got.
28 year old me still hits on Bastila every chance I get lol
That battle meditation gotta make for a crazy fuck
It actually gets much darker. You can order Zalbaar to kill Mission and he will obey, though he betrays you on the Star Forge and so you kill him as well anyway.
@@jayt9608 when does he betray you on the star forge??
@@pikaplayz5190
I remember the betrayal occurring at the very beginning just after you open the first door or so but before you face any enemies. I might be off a little on the timeline, but I am certain that I am close.
Zaalbar is actually quite useful. 20 base strength is nothing to scoff at.
Commander Shepard I did a play through and with buffs and adrenals got him to 40 strength it was ridiculous.
The fact you replied to a 7 year old comment.
flyingkoopa45 tbf I didn’t notice it was 7 years old until I saw your post
And now it is 8 years old XD
And we are still replying to an 8 year old comment. Lets keep this going until it bothers everyone in the section.
Zaalbar equipped for melee is one of the two best companions in the game. The enemy waves on the Star Forge are a piece of piss if you take him and Canderous.
Everyone always says they only bring the Jedi as party members because they’re that much BETTER. But for me, I almost always took canderous - his constitution and treaty injury are the best, so he’s super hard to kill. He’s been clutch so many times
@@ThatBigGuyAl My "Canderous" solo'd Darth Nihilus in the 2nd game lol
@@baron3904what stats did you give him?
@@Bigkingmonster408 I don't have the exact numbers but I dumped most if not all points into Endurance
@@Bigkingmonster408Sorry, too much time with Elden Ring. Constitution, not Endurance. That doesn't exist here 😅
tbh i'd expect Mission to run away rather than Carth but..... well this was hilarious
Carth: You don't have to help the sith Mission, not while i am here... blablabla
then he runs 10 seconds later. lol.
What was he gonna do against two jedi, a mandalorian, two droids and possibly zaalbar, running was the smartest thing to do unless he wanted to get obliterated.
Better to run off and get the information out that revan is back than die stupidly
violet shadowstone Vandar didn’t realize Revan was evil until the very end of the battle so Carth failed at that too.
He pissed his pants
I haven't played this game since 2005 but I do remember the dark side path I chose caused her to run off from the dialogue algorithm I chose.
“The droids will continue to serve you, Revan - they’re programmed to obey their master.”
HK-47 is just doing backflips because he knows this is his chance to slaughter millions again.
You mean to tell me you didn't manipulate The Wookie and use his life debt to you to make him kill the twi'lek because that's a lot more fun you're really bad Sith
That’s cruel
@@SimplyHawa lol your a pretty shitty sith if your not cruel
Even being the Sith I wouldn't end at killing innocent people. I mean I can use the dark side but I don't see any point at being maniac and making a useless kills. It's more for psychopath siths
Top ten anime betrays
Which one? When Revan kills his teammates or when Carth decided to CIAO and leave Mission behind?
^Yes.
Mission was the bravest of them all, certainly braver than Carth "hero of the republic" Onasi.
Carth ran like Forrest Gump. lol. Canderous was like "hell, I better not piss off this dude or else I am toast".
When you go dark side I find it so much more satisfying to make Zalbar kill Mission
CandleSurgeon because you're fucked in the head
pussy
Lmao
>Cute hacker twi'lek girl
>useless
pick one
>cute 14 year old hacker twi'lek girl
>useless and illegal
This is star wars there is no age of consent
H.O. U “cute” =/= “sexual interest” my man....
I prefer the "dead" option.
H.O. U What?
>Old 60-69 year old Mandalorian Neo-Crusader
>Astro Boy In Star Wars (or at least one of the men who swore allegiance to Revan)
They certainly were useless. Canderous was really good.
Edit: Wow this comment blew up.
Canderous and HK-47 are the best and most fun teammate...
@@NekoLilium2012 HK is useless without upgrades. 16 in strength but can't use melee weapons, what where they thinking? And Canderous manadalorian honor bullshit is fucking annoying.
Zaalbar was tough as nails if you make hikm fight with bacca's sword. He is a master of brute force in melee combat.
@@Deranfan Make HK a grenadier and he is great. HK also is tough with a flamethrower or laser beam.
Wtf are you talking about? Mission is easily the best damage dealer in the party. Probably the best party member in the game besides Revan of course
This is rather painful to watch, considering I just finished my full Light Side walkthrough
This game is the best compared to modern rpgs even. So many decisions, character builds and more. Although, killing mission breaks my heart. She's so naive and innocent. Although, Candor is a badass. This whole game is just good
zalbaar always seems miserable. why?
Sandwich_masterX He doesn’t know who he is. He attacked his brother with his claws, which is considered a heinous crime among Wookiees.
He has an arc on Kashyyyk you can do to make him whole, and not a shell anymore if it’s the light side
I did his whole arc on kashyyk and even afterwards it still felt the same
Holy shit these comments are old lmao
lol ikr
I know right
@Trump ikr
@@cazei13 ikr
hk 47 is the best
JoohnDope would’ve been fun seeing him kill her “You better stop your hostilities toward my master female meat bag”
That said I was never fucked enough to do this ahaha I went light side with it
Should have let Zalbaar do it, way better that way.
Heart-broking though. It's the second most disgusting thing I ever done in an RPG.
MrKosobi What's the *most* disgusting?
Killing mordin in mass effect 3, he was trying to save the krogan race, but due to my poor decisions the krogans were led by a psychopath, so theyd be dangerous for the galaxy. So i had to kill him, my favorite companion. I felt so bad about it that i couldnt keep playing this game, and started anew from the first one.
@@MrKosobi there is renegade Option which keeps him alive i think so you are just a Monster
Wow people still watching this 10 years later hahaha
0:17 Bastilla speed walking to the ship like she’s been holding in the fattest shit in the galaxy
Lol all of these people having this videos popping up in their recommendations
Random guess, is it because Super Best Friends are playing it?
But how am I supposed to get mines without having Mission carefully disarming active ones on the ground? Am I just supposed to BUY them??
You use mines?
this is why after thousands of playtroughs i still cant let myself enjoy a dark side run, i just cant kill my favorite blue girl.
You don't have to. Make Zaalbar
The Sith Lord revan is back to his old ways...
Darth Destructoid As it should be
ALL HAIL DARTH REVAN, THE *TRUE* LORD OF THE SITH!
And HK just sits there, I expect T3 to do nothing.
I couldn't ever kill Mission. She's too useful for security and computer use...plus those two are my favorite companions in the game.
Edit: Called her Vette by accident because of SWTOR.
KingNothingIII security and computer use isn't necessary after Taris.
T3-M4 is better.
@@ashwath5733 But t3 can't fight.
Vette's just a Mission thats old enough to romance
You forgot T3
Crazy to think this video was posted nearly 10 years ago.
I was gonna do a dark side run but now I don’t want to after seeing this
we all agree that mullet revan is canon?
Maybe I'm too much of a loser but every time I try to play the dark side I end up turning good
Pussy
Just pick all the edgy options. The only people who unironically pick them are edgelords
@@buildup3592 I actually really agree with this
@@hubert9841 Is it just me, or do some people actually enjoy being good in their playthroughs?
"Don't worry Mission, I'll help you fight them for the republic RUN RUN RUN I GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE"
Alright but really, T3 has way better hacking skills and is okay in combat if done right. Mission just doesn't have a lot going for her, she's like that character that tries to be everything instead of specializing. Which, given all your specialists isn't all that useful.
I couldn't really understand Zaalbar's character very much. The tones and body language were lost and took away from his already strange story. And his cultural motivations weren't fleshed out soon enough. his stats were shadowed by the Jedi too, so he was mostly useless
Lorenzo Ameris 20 strength is nothing to scoff at him and Canderous were my go to party
You’re objectively wrong…. Mission has some of the highest damage output in the game. She’s the only character that gets max sneak attack. Pair it with a Jedi counselor who is stun and she literally one shots everything in the game.
@@dylanhicks4771 That and if you can't get much demolitions, having her as your bomb squad member is really helpful. She can get a lot of skill points too.
@@WillieManga yeah she is so underrated . Easily one of the best companions in the game.
Me: “Well at least he told her to run before he started running” 😭😂
If this happens to me, I join them, just like Canderous did. No Jedis and Republic to stop us, and I'm not a Force user so I don't get crazy
And loyalty to a Sith Lord can be very rewarding, especially if you can be valuable enough to not be killed when one is enraged...and provided that you do not get too careless.
I like Mission she's good for opening locks, deactivating mines, and hacking.
Saturn Gold 😭😭😭
I did it too, but just for the stealer stuff then switched her back to a jedi or canderous or hk-47
And dying by her best friends hands :P
So is T3-M4.
@Saturn Gold it's she or Carth. There aren't any good blaster users beside them.
Canderous in the traditional Mandalorian armor is still some of the coolest endgame gear I've ever seen.
Bro, im playling lightside and havent finished the game. WTF DID I MISS? Wtf happened to bastilla lmao "Well done Revan" ??? hahah
How the hell did this game get a 12 rating
how do you get that mandalorian armor
at the final level before starforge you will find that armor on the leader of the mandalorian outpost
6 years later, he finally got his answer.
lol
JuicyMullet someone had to do it
As if there are people who watch this 6 years later. But its Kotor :)
brown carpet and boring twi-lek girl
im dying
Must not have realized how to build missions character to make her the most op companion
THANK YOU! Those sneak attacks hit like trucks!
But Jolee Bindo wasn't useless... Love the dark side ending tho. Wish Mass Effect didn't the same thing.
That's not reasonable kind of ending for Mass Effect story, for any kind of character the only possible solution is to try to stop the Reapers. Another option is to be like Illusive man or Saren, that would be interesting to have as an ending option, but it would be in no way rewarding.
Best game ever.
Mission is the only one in my team that is still level like 3
Yeah, I never took her around haha. However, I kind of want to play through it with her in my party on other planets so I see what dialogue comes up.
Play he with a Jedi consular who uses stun abilities and she is the highest dmg output in the game.
It’s actually easier to beat the game by gaining more of the dark side. When you have to fight the entire base damn near on your own.
for maximum evulz you should've force persuaded zaalbaar to cut mission down where she stood :D
noooooooooo
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Execute order 66
HOW THE FUCK DID YOU GET THE MANDALORIAN HELMET FOR CANDEROUS
They aren’t useless
Edgelords in this comment section, beware.
*PLUNK*
The only useful companions in this game is mission and iron bucket. Fights in this game are not that hard with some expensive gear and mediocre build, so unless you building Revan as max Intelligence character, mission is very useful.
I was playing on Dark Side, but this wasn't an option for me. How do I trigger joining Bastila?
This is so fucking evil dude wtf
Where did this type of writing go comparsd to todays game????
I literally couldn't figure this out at all and im on dantooine.
It took me negative time to figure out that Bode or in any other games that Mfer is going to betray us.
I couldn't see this coming at all
Me as Revan: "Eh, I never liked them anyway."
Feels so wrong idk y
Just realized this guy's profile name is a reference to a Doors song that's pretty cool.
Too bad you cannot enslave mission.
I love how HK-47 just watches you slay the meatbags lol
Nooooooooo they were the most likeable characters
Exactly!
I didn't really like them...I had my eyes more set on bastila
Lol we all know candorous and bastila at the best
oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Mission is the best girl you nuts
So in total u are able to kill Carth Zalbaar Mission Jolee & Juhani from your party?
You can also kill Bastilla on the Light side route.
I felt guilty for doing it
The most controversial title of all time
I bet mission and zaalbar are thinking "only a sith deals in absolute" right now
Where is your red lightsaber
:(
a good game no matter the time
I always laugh at bas speed walking to the ship
T3 just standing there like "wtf man"
I love the Dark Side ending, but I do not enjoy killing Mission.
"useless"
OP, I hope you go talk to Calo Nord three times.
I thought it was hilarious that you can kill mission. I thought she was sooo annoying but cute at the same time. And The wookie was useful, I never wanted to kill him. I enjoyed killing all the one though, I couldn't stand him.
How I am annoyed by the vile betrayal of Zaalbar when he refuses to keep his oath and kill the Twilek! Wookiees have no honor
I always killed zalbbar and mission.
eh its more fun to let Zaalbar kill mission for you no need to waste time dirtying your own hands on a brat,
I wish you didn’t have to kill Zaalbar
I made Zaalbar kill Mission 😂
Who else here killed*the one"?
Why does everyone hate Mission?
Bastille power waking
I usually turn Mission into a Jedi, so she can kick serious butt!
LanIaFortroSha You can't do that. That's not how it works. Did you even play the game?
Ashwath Toontown Mods my friend, mods. That is all.
The dark side is a way to many Powers which seem unnatrual
Well, I play light side except for a few times just to see! I have Zaalbar up to a 30 strength with strength belt and Dominator Gauntlet using twin Bacca blades! Yes, I use the duplication glitch. Zaalbar is a Beast and I use him and Juhani on the entire Unknown Planet, even inside the temple using that glitch because Jolee is less than useless, and on the Star Forge. Even on Hard, Reven, Juhani, and Zaalbar walk right through everything from Rancors, droids, Sith, and soldiers like they are nothing! Both Jedi with strength belts and Dominator Gauntlets, so they have 20 strength. Sigil/Opari lightsabers against most, Sigil/Solaris when going into areas with lots of Sith. Yes, I use every cheat and shortcut in the book so that I am level 20 before I finish Korriban! I don't even buy HK, I don't do the Sunray trial because I don't like getting a guilty Man off free and I'm already level 20 so why bother. Also don't bother with the Wookie trial. So yes, I don't play fair even doing light side. I do some side quests, even the bounty hunting on my few Dark Side runs.
This guy knows what he’s talking about ⬆️
@rideronthestorm22 is that a cyan lightsaber (one found in mods?) or is the mantle of the force crystal? if so how'd you acquire it?
Ciaran Smith there are 5 locations to go to, one is Yavin. Keep visiting the guy there, and at the third or fourth visit, he'll be attacked. Save him to buy the two best colour crystals.
At the yavin outpost you can buy a cyan and i think an orange crystal
It's the mantle of the force crystal and the other special crystal is the heart of the guardian all of em' can be bought at yavin station
Man I can't wait to see this kinda of stuff when the remake comes out, a side by side comparison or even just remaking videos like this.
Given that Sam Maggs is writing for it, and she's renowned for her woke, feminist hot takes for every little thing in videogames, I wouldn't be surprised if Revan becomes non-binary.
Sam Maggs is the same person that said that "tea bagging is ACTUAL virtual rape" and loves taunting male Star Wars fans as "Betas" on top of all of her other clear bait.
However, I wouldn't be opposed to a female Revan option. Plenty of women like Star Wars too, I'd be all for that option
@@bradleypeters6656, there was an option during character customization to play as a lady. But I agree. I fear the remake shall be a vastly inferior story to the original.
@@bradleypeters6656 as soon as I heard Sam Maggs was writing it, I lost what little interest I had. I'd much rather have a remaster of this and sith lords than a remake.
Like number 100!! What's my prize? XD
Sad 😞
Sus
I’ve only played this game twice but as badly as I wanted to do dark side I couldn’t kill Mission
I'd love if we could play Kotor after you beat game especially me who just finsihed DS ending and I'd love to be greeted wherever I go as Darth Revan and to search for Carth so i can slay him as well
Jolee and Hk are my favorites, the option to kill him is cool but what the actual fuck
The title of this video always low key pisses me off whenever I see it.
Okay, the title of the video is more a personal opinion and not an actual fact.
That's one edgy title