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FRAUD ALERT '70 SIX BARREL 'CUDA: VERY UPSET CUSTOMER WHEN MARK TELLS HIM HIS CAR IS A FAKE!
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2023
- As Rocky would say, "it ain't all sunshine and rainbows". Mark discovers a coveted 6bbl Cuda isn't what it's cracked up to be and shows Allysa how he knew.
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I love how you guys are teaching the youth, and mentoring/guiding them in the important details 👍🇺🇸
I'm not necessarily a Mopar guy, but since these cars were around, it is really very interesting how Mark points out the details on the very basics. Very impressive. I've really enjoyed watching this. I've learned more about these cars than I ever thought I would! :)
Ever see him substantiate ANYTHING? No he just says shit and you swallow then ask for more.
Nothing better than watching these guys do what they do . Thank you for letting us in .
So if someone else rebodies a car: its a fraud.
Mark Worman rebodies a car with AMD parts.....thats totally ok.
I'd like to see how, specifically, he managed to keep the VIN attached to the car. Otherwise, fraud.
Fraud is a rebody passed off as original. I looked at a 1968 or 69 ( long time ago, memory foggy) dodge dart that was built from an original 383 car that was wrecked. It was not represented as original so perfectly ok
This is the most informative car show i have ever watched. i believe anyone who owns or is interested in mopar should be watching your team. i have a 73 valiant regal with a stock 318 nothing great but what i could afford to get into mopar . so i will be watching every episode. I will also be posting this to all the mopar guys on our forum here in New Zealand. thanks for putting out such good content and taking the time to explain how everything works and why and i love the we quiz bits. cheers.
I would think you need to have more than 5% of the original car to use an original Vin number.
Probably if you have the VIN tag, it’s all you need since it seems better-than-OEM panels are available for the body.
@@brianbarney1885
You need the VIN tag and than the key areas that have stampings that have the same numbers as the vin. If you have the assembly build tags those are not always with a car. If you have numbers matching car starting in the late 60's you will find the serial/sequence numbers will be on the engine and transmission as well and they will be the last 6 digits of the vin. Those numbers will not prove the car is origional and not fake if they all match. If they don't match than it proves it is not all original.
Don't need even 5%. All you need is structure of some sort that's original. Just gotta prove the part is original to the car. Mark has receipts, pictures before and after the dip, a license and reputation the DMV would take as good.
I believe the frame and firewall are the key requirements
It’s all metal that can be replaced
So If this shop replaces major body panels from rust or collision The car is still considered restored.
but if another shop replaces the rear 75% of the body and still retains the proper VIN #'s It's considered as a fake or a tribute ? Where exactly do you draw the line ? At what point does major body panel replacement become building a fake car When the proper ID is intact ?
The line is drawn between “I did it” and “a competitor did it”.
As a painter for over 43 years, Wil is doing a great job, I commend the guy because he shows that he cares about his work Respect..... Most impressed with your daughter, she has come such a long way with all you have taught her. Mark, you are such a wise fella, I must say you are one of a kind indeed sir, Respect Respect Respect! What an awesome shop and crew you have, knowing you kept the good ones from childhood to carry along into life with all having the same Pashion in Mopar's....
Lol yeah the owner was so angry, false video title, the guy was like oh well I still want to make it into a tribute. there saved someone time.
Every video they have is click bait. False title. I think they like that cuz they find fake cars
WOW! The lengths that scammers go to is downright terrible. Only a few guys like Mark could tell this.
Building a car out of a roof,you mean only Mark could get away with it, anyone else this would be wrong .
Ever see this clown substantiate anything? But you believe him why?
Ever have something remind you of someone who is no longer with you and the memory is so powerful and meaningful that you have tears running down your face and your nose is stopped up so fast that it's almost like being sucker punched? When Dougie pulled out that museum piece key holder and I actually saw it and realized what it was, I was INSTANTLY taken back to 1975 and my Grandmother's white 1966 Fairlane. She used to keep her car keys in one of those. I haven't seen one in 35-40 years. It's amazing how memories from so long ago can be so vivid and clear.
I remember during the gas crisis in the 70's there were lines around the block. You couldn't give a muscle car away. It has to be frustrating to think of all the muscle cars that could have easily been restored got crushed instead because no one wanted them. Because they were basically worthless minor damage was considered a total. My friend sold his '67 GTO for $60. to the wrecker and when the guy saw the car (pretty well stripped, not wrecked) he wanted his money back.
I just found a fender in the woods for one of these. Totally going to build an entirely new car around it just like you guys! Nice sponsered commercial disguised as a tv show.
Not really that much different to every “ reality” show that plagues TV these days.
At what point does a build like this go from being a restoration to building a replica out of aftermarket spare parts. Unless the vehicle contains at least 51% of its genuine original parts it not a restoration.
Do you watch any other shows, like 2 guys garage or all girls garage. If you did you might see shows sponsored by Hotshots and Lokar. Those shows are exactly what you say. Commercials posing as a show.
This is not that at all. Its become more about Mark and the interactions with his staff , than about restoring cars. On builds like this its way more than a restoration and more of a type of remanufacturing a car, when their is so little of a car thats left.. with so much scripted shows claiming they are reality , this one is as real as it gets this is a real shop doing real work for real people. Except the production crew following them around with video cameras and boom mikes all day. That's normal right???
I will never unsee Cousin Kowalski 🤣 . . . On a serious note, you guys are amazing at what you do! Keep it up Team...
The best video I have seen you do. The detective work was fascinating.
I say the 440 six pack car got severely rear ended or crashed and they used a donor car to repair it.
I haven’t seen this channel in probably well over a year and it’s come quite a long way
The fact that the old school guys are teaching actual the whole world through YT is freaking awesome, Mopar should be paying them.
Great video! Love the detail work and worker compassion!👍👍👍
Wait.... So the customer wasn't upset?
I miss my all original '72 Cuda. Forced to sell due to bills and a friend sais they saw it in a field 2 weeks later... .
what is the difference in that car being a rebody than putting all new AMD parts on it ?
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Y'all really Love these old monsters. Kind of makes me pine for my Mom's 1972 Plymouth Satellite with that 318 2bbl. Kind of...
Great channel, really fun to watch you work.
Love watching your channel keep up the good work
The red paint on the drums stood for 11 inch drums . Nothing to do with the wheel choice !
The most incredible thing about that "Tribute" build is that the guy who swapped all the VIN's and badging etc, knew what made a real 440 6-pack car but just didn't do the proper work to make it pass the sniff test. He had the knowledge but not the work ethic.
Damn, you guys are actually building a car from scratch! I watched your show years ago and being Chrysler car guy, wondered if I stayed in the car repair/restore business, might I have been as good a Chrysler authority as Mark is. Amazing stuff here!!!!! I guess my only question would be if this car is considered restored or NOS manufactured car???? I get that you use the original data plate and roof, but beyond that, the body is all new, nothing remained from the day is was factory built.
When I was a kid I thought that all Cudas came with a 671 blower, Cragars, and Mickey Thompson 50s.
I drool at everything I see on this show, just beautiful, besutiful workmanship, such great great care to all the detail, everything is sooo nice and clean., My Lord what id give to work there !! ...... and get my own 68 Charger done at the same time !!
I grew up in the 60's in a small town in Jersey. Down the street was Burnett and Hillary Chrysler Plymouth. All of these Mopar muscle cars I looked at them in amazement, Cuda's, Road Runners, GTX's, and Challenger's. My friend painted cars in their body shop. Yer show is very accurate and entertaining. Thanks for letting me relive those memories. And the Chrysler 300 letter cars, the beginners of muscle cars. Would love to see your team do a 300.
Excellent VIN tag and other body detective work Mark!
This is one of the reasons I love watching this show. Attention to details. Truth.
Impressed by the knowledge of this guy and his team. Amazing
Yea he wanted a real 71 Cuda and all he got was a real 71 Cuda roof!!
This guy is a walking Chrysler encyclopedia .
Good on ya mate.
Fascinating detective work. Great video. ☮
What a bunch of great folks. Enjoyed the video.
These guys have great skill and I admire it, but I don't necessarily agree with it. On the one hand they are building an entirely new car around a VIN plate and the roof panel, then on the other hand the are calling the other car fake for doing nearly the same thing albeit with used parts.
All that work for a car that was crap when it came out….. that said, you guys do great work. Really top notch…..
Very cool. Am I the only one who caught the shout out to Jim Root of Slipknot?
Love the great details of finding out true sheetmetal, and what the holes are for , my brother and I do the same for gm cars, hard to find people that can go that far in detail, them people are worth the money,
Tribute or original.... In 2023 I'm just happy to see them alive and well.
Never rode in a Cuda, but roommate had a Challenger conv with a hot 360 transplant, she was wicked powerful and lite. It would be worth a fortune today but sadly, it was lost along with a childhood friend heading to college. In late 70's/early 80's Mopars were the hottest stuff on the street.
Make that the late 60's and early 70's. The era of the Hemi Cudas and Challengers, T/A Challengers and AAR Cudas, and the 440 SixPak cars. I was lucky enough to drive a T/A Challenger in high school, a 340 SixPak, 1 of 1200 produced.
I would even take a knock off of a Barracuda. I had the chance as a young man to buy a lime green barracuda convertible for $1100, but my father said no. I had saved up half of it. and was the only kid in my family that paid off my cars, but the answer was NO! That is part of the reason I stopped seeing my family after mom died. But even a knock off is better then anything they make today.
Great work team! Love GYC!
i almost bought a 71 cuda my mechanic friend spotted the new upper control arm. that was in 72, seller said it was new never damaged. i picked up a 70 SS 396-375 chevelle for 2200 bucks instead. cars were cheap gas was cheap. i wanted the cuda
As long as vehicles or parts are identified as not original to the car...who cares? Restomods are everywhere. Nice to see Mark not acting like a clown. I couldn't watch the show anymore.
How do you go about commissioning a build for either a 440 cuda or GTX??? What would the cost be???
I do wish I could afford to buy a graveyard car you guys do beautiful work.
Start your own you tube channel, then purchase a graveyard car.
Wills got a point. Why you gotta be so heavy handed or unaware of the coordinates your body limbs are in? That door slam when he just went to put the tape on.. People like him are naturally just heavy with everything they do and that peeves me as well.
wait, tag line says very upset customer. But, Mark says the customer was super cool about it....
This isn't a repair or even a restoration. This is a reconstruction.
I've owned a few gems in my past. Although none were in mint condition, they are missed. 63 Chevy ii 2dr, 68 nova 2dr, 66 GTO, 68 Malibu 2dr, 70 Lemans 2dr, 76 Monte Carlo. All bought and sold $1800. or less😢
Nice informational video Gyc
Cool info on the cuda rear body panel lock...
I love this being able to have a brand new 1970 Cuda.
Oh man it would be so cool if people would stop trying to remake this exact show.
71,is my fav Cuda. Last year for the HEMI
respect to the owner, just keeping at it.
How does someone not know their car is a fake, unless the VIN has been removed or falsified.
Whatever Mark and his boys built I'd be extremely happy to get.
Can’t wait to hear it run. Cool to see your knowledge being passed on too.
I love to work there and do some cutting in buffing
Awesome content and unparalleled knowledge of these gems...
but where's the "very upset customer when Mark tells him his car is a fake!" part?...
I'd rather be told than me thinking I have something special when in reality it's just another one
You can have any color you want just as long as it’s black Henry Ford
Thats the Phantasm Hemi Cuda. Good movie.
Thats a real shame. This was very educational.
I really enjoyed the investigation. But I wonder if the stampings are the same for both models. They produced more stampings than cars.
The odds of special order cars not being abused is so slim.
Am I the only one that missed the part about the customer being "VERY UPSET"?
They used to say you could build a vw beetle from a jc Whitney catalog for cheap. Now you do it with Mopar unicorns and some lawyer will pay half a million dollars for it to tow to a show twice a year.
Thanks, Mecum/Barret Jackson types.
After all the years on tv Allysa hasn’t changed and looks Amazing!
Except an extra 70 lbs
@@MidnightPolaris800 wtf?
So he suddenly discovered the VIN tag was bogus after all the work? Right thing to do would be inform the owner BEFORE taking his $.
Nice touch with the 70's era porno music during the quizzes.
I want to paint it plum crazy or panther pink or Limelight or sublime lemon twist any other color but black
Love these old mopars. Sad that people have to clone and misrepresent
Nothing wrong with coloning a car as long as they don't try and miss represent it when trying to sell it.
@@milla698he's smart for showing the serial number and story on his show to keep his back free from any future angry buyer
Diggin through the junk drawer recently goin for a set of Sylvania bulbs for a cherokee blinker. It worked but they was purchased for a gs regal. I dumped the bag i stored them in and found a damaged button i thought was lost. It controls the lock on the driver door window panel. The tnt on the passenger side aint exactly black and aggravating to ask to roll it down cause the switch keeps it locked.
WTF?
'70 Cuda front end looks much better than the '71. Also, who would have thought all these Mopars could spawn a whole industry that remakes them! Back then Camaros and Mustangs were preferred and these were considered cheaply made at best. Who would have thought that now even an incomplete rust bucket sells for thousands?
Call me skeptical but building an old car out of new parts except the roof and affixing body tags and numbered parts; Isn't that a fake car? No matter the craftsmanship it is still not original. It is made with new parts from a mopar unaffiliated aftermarket parts company. Why would anyone pay what you know is a small fortune for a previously useless parts car that if sold will not be worth what they have put in to it? Not to mention if the buyer saw this episode and realized it is not an original car. Why not save the money and wait for an original to come along as rare as that may be? Other than that great teachers and knowledge. Alyssa is beautiful as usual.
RIP Barry Newman
I would still have it built as a tribute car, but somehow document it so no one else gets fooled, if I sold it.
it's interesting that they 'identify' as spooky grave-yarders...but in reality, they are blessed resurrectionists.
Glad it’s a accepted tribute car. Honestly at its best.
My exact inner structure done in a t-shirt.
Very cool build, but WHY put the horrid original brakes in? Went with modern suspension, transmission, and fuel injection but old tiny brakes system.
I thought Chrysler dropped the bodies on completed drivelines at factory during that period? Wouldn't make it too surprising that it fit so well, unless I'm mistaken.
My favorite Cragar SS wheels. Look good on any 60-70’s muscle car.
A copy of this video should be mailed to the seller of the Fake Cuda 6 pack car . With a signature required package . With the word BUSTED written on the thumb drive 😁
Great, great grampa's hammer is a family treasure. He built our family home, barn, garages all with that hammer....of course the handle was replaced maybe a dozen times, the head 3 or 4 times.
how does he know the rear deck hasn't just been replaced.. good grief
This is a great show and Allysa Rose is the cherry on top.
Are they still on TV?
Hell if you want to nit pick both of these cars are a "Cuda" of Theseus type of situation. What's the difference between "re-bodying" and replacing everything but the roof structure? When done correctly they are both commonly and legally acceptable practices. Surely this isn't the first time he has seen this because there are a lot of muscle cars out there like that.
...still waiting for the "Very Upset Customer" part. click bait?
Incredible build, but is it a real car if the only original parts are the body tag VIN and chassis numbers?
I would love to know the final cost. On a avg. how much would one need to set aside. I have never found anyone to come out and say -- this much. Does anyone know ????
How can this be considered a real car, when its all aftermarket panels?
I thought they called them "3 Dueces" instead of a 6 bbl or was it a "6 Pack"...
How different is this from someone building up a car with mostly reproduction sheet metal and a few original bits and pieces (firewall, etc.) and claiming it's a restored original?