Zeppelin Ascends: The Untold Story of Dortmund '80 - Documentary
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- A retrospective on Led Zeppelin's opening night in Dortmund 1980. This June 17th show holds a special meaning in their story past the release of their eight studio album, "In Through the Out Door" and their most recent shows at Knebworth. Their European tour of 1980 was a return to shape and form, determined to win back the glories of past rock and roll quests, finding inspiration in the new vibrations of the music business. #ledzeppelin #classicrock #jimmypage #robertplant #johnpauljones #johnbonham #classicrock #stairwaytoheaven #kashmir #germany #dortmund
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Note: On the Audio Summary part i meant to type in "Demolition Crew" instead of Demotion lol. Next there are a couple of black screen cuts i added for a dramatic effect, as if holding your breathe while travelling back in time! 🎉
I love ur dedication to the best band that ever graced our hearts Led Zeppelin baby ♥️✌🏼
I like the black screen effect. A good choice.
Greatest band to ever grace the planet!
100% Agree. Greatest band after the Beatles who influenced the rock world like no other!....and never replaced band members!
Better than Devo??
Right about the Beatles and replacements (by order of the Crown). Paul died Fall 66.. Scottish boy Billy makes fake for decades. M15 plant, what a mess. Voice prints, finger prints show it. He went to jail in Japan for Impersonating Paul McCartney. The pot bust revealed his fingerprints were not the same as in 66. Japan had to save face. THAT was the problem. Scotland Yard got Billy and Linda back to the UK. But the fab 3 saved the British economy. By order of the crown, Billy plays on. Denny Lane (Moody Blues) wrote for Wings not Billy. Just put Justin Haywards voice on some of those tunes....you will see. Billy did not write Live and Let Die. Not a Beatle song, eh? That be Denny. Linda knew it, the one legged one nearly blew it. The mystery continues and Billy tours. Saw him. He sucks. He signs his bills with his right hand. Busted at the restaurant and told my friend who questioned it to "mind his own "F*ggin Business". George Martin and Billy ran the show from 67-70. 36 months and only one real record (Pepper). The rest was just filler nonsense and leftovers from the Paul years. Space fillers like Abby Road "medley". George hated that, but they took his songs finally. He shut up. He was real. The rest is BS. I knew Makunda Das his Hindu Priest when I was active duty Navy in DC (DC ISKON Temple - Hare Krishna). So sad. Lennon was going to blow it open and reveal Tavistock Institute/CIA role in "the Band". That is why they could not play live. Billy towers over the others at six foot plus. Paul was 5'10".Billy admits it all in his book published by Maaca Press. His own. Few can handle the smoke and mirrors of the music industry. They really are evil. I walked out on record deals and tours as it is only to get you into debt so you will never see your money. Tom Cruise owns nothing. He is a corporation. I went to Medical School. Most never get paid. Peter Grant was different as he was a criminal. He almost went to jail with Bonzo for murder after nearly killing Bill Grahams employee in Oakland on Day on the Green 77. I am from the Bay Area. Zeppelin paid his medical bills, like they did when Rodney B. (the DJ, KROQ, I know him) overdosed on cocaine at the Riot House in Pagey's room and stroked out. Page paid for it all. I never brought it up with Rodney.
The Bill Graham Presents roadie (BGP) nearly died at UCSF ICU from head injuries .NOT COOL. See what cocaine and "Scarface" ethics get you? Grant was terrible. Violent and unstable. Zep went to his head. I do not miss the music industry at all. Bye bye Whisky Jonesy also hated the darkness and wanted to bail Zep....strange day have found us, a casual joy.@dZeppelin-Stories
....Tavistock is real.@dZeppelin-Stories
Er not quite, there's many that were better, Deep Purple being only one of their contemporaries.
I so love this.
Zeppelin 1979 and 1980 are my favorite years of zep history.
They're matured, older, seasoned and i love what could've been.
Led zeps 1973 euro tour Germany Vienna dates the pinnacle. Bc Seattle 75. La 77 must hears
The matured YES! I hate when i read people bashing them like disposable concerts....NOT AT ALL. Glad you share the love for 1979 and 1980, these guys were going to conquer the 80s in their own special way.
💥love these years also!
They were sO
POWERFUL ‼️
Becoming a fan of this guy’s documentaries. He is passionate about the music, and always comes up with new facts about the bands he covers. I really like his laid back style of narration, too.
Jose , excellent breakdown of the show. The 1980 tour gets over looked so much. I have had told many people that who didn't even know they did the tour. They thought Knebworth was their last gig.. They were really trying to find their footing for the 80s and get ready for North America again. Great job....Dinosaurs rule !!!!!
It does get overlooked right? You are dead on, many people forget it happened hehe. Strange right? I believe it's better than Knebworth in many aspects. Gotta give them for going PUNK on the opener, what a THRILL!
Love the reference to Randy Jackson and Zebra. Before their first album they were the go-to club band for all things Zeppelin, in the New Orleans area. I didn't arrive to Germany with the Air Force until 1981 but was able to buy a European Tour 1980 poster....that sadly I have since lost. I was so proud of that poster!
Randy Jackson is a GREAT musician. I really admire his style and consistency, reminds me of Triumph. You were in Germany in 1981, so cool! How was the vibe back then, at the actual cities? Thank you very much for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Vibe was great, especially with a great dollar/german mark exchange rate…which helped a poor airman stretch that paycheck a lot farther than back in the states. I still have a pair of JBL 150A speakers that I bought for $750, and which were selling for $1500 back home. And the Monsters of Rock outdoor concerts in the early 80s……legendary!
@twobikesandadrone - I was over in Germany at that same time myself. Did you find that Zeppelin 1980 tour poster at this poster shop in downtown Frankfurt? i recall stumbling across that shop & they had prints of all the great acts that toured Europe from the 70's thru the 80's. (Stones, Zepplin, Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Zeppelin) Still have a few tucked away somewhere.
@@rwc3500 No....I think I either bought or traded for it with a fellow Air Force member in my dormitory. Were you stationed at Rhein-Main AB or an Army post near Frankfurt? I was down at Sembach Air Base btw. Was supposed to go to Minot AFB in North Dakota but swapped with a guy who didn't want to bring his family to Germany. Can you believe that? Crazy!!!
The 1980 tour always fascinated me from the first time I heard the Zurich show. I loved hearing the 80s Zeppelin version of Train Kept A Rollin' and the epic Kashmir. I prefer 1980 Kashmir than most of the 77 workings. I can't wait to watch this video. I just finished watching the Love Beach episode. You sold me, I'm going to get that album afterall.
Thanks for joining the live premiere Christian! Man it really makes my day to know Love Beach will get some love in your collection!!!
…no disrespect and I’m NOT being a d, but…the 1977 Kashmir I feel was the pinnacle of it’s live versions. The Mellotron that Jones used sounded just like the studio version - like a live Moroccan street band. Then there’s Bonzo’s epic endings - these were enormous! The 1980 versions sounded a bit tired and John largely played just to get through the songs. There are a few good ones from ‘80 but….the ‘77 ones definitely were the ones. I mean…listen to Cleveland 4-28-77…it’s just larger than life itself.
What i like about 1980 LB is the sustained D note Jones was able to play behind the descending chords. This he could not do before. But i definitely understand why you say this, you are not wrong.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories oh yes. This playing D pedal point on bass pedals (pun, and no pun intended,) during the descending parts in Kashmir is demonstrated wonderfully in all the perfectly balanced SB recordings from 1975. For me personally this is a huge part of why the ‘75 SB concerts are so enjoyable. Robert (while visually stunning in ‘75) struggled tremendously but I give him a total pass knowing what he did for the first five years. He earned his spot and fried his voice for us the fans. Jones really shined in ‘75 as his role got even more laborious and crucial. I learn so much from every frickin thing the guy does. He’s 1000% worthy of my undivided attention. Bonzo too!
I also like the mellotron more! The version of Kashmir 5-24-1975 I like most!
Thank you JCM again for your great work!
I was at the 6-21-1980 concert at Rotterdam, The Netherlands.
I had just than saw the TSRTS movie, so the concert was a bit disappointing for me. They were than, in 1973 at their best!
I still remember Kashmir and Heartbreaker those were great!
On the Knebworth version of In The Evening I just love how they ended that one the most with Bonham tearing into those last bar cord punches.
This was excellent. I hadn't realized 1980 had such good playing. As a guitarist, it occurs to me that Nobody's Fault But Mine must be a real monster for any band to pull off correctly.
I saw Zeppelin (and Plant) play 'NFBM' in 1977 @ MSG in NYC.......OMG, THE ENTIRE BUILDING WAS SHAKING ! Same w/Plant @ Meadowlands arena 1988 (?) !
Hard core BONHAM FANS ONLY Thank you
Thank You Mustang for tuning in! Cheers!
I'd long written off the 1980 tour, but this makes me want to go back and give it a listen
Your astute take on 1980 Zep is much appreciated. I’m loving this channel. My first listen of ‘80 shows was a Zurich bootleg I bought back in 1989 (my college days. New Kids On The Block ruled the charts back then) from Bleeker Bobs on Melrose Ave in LA. Bootlegs were gingerly removed from under the front counter by the store clerk for your perusal back then.
Your Latino bandito accent gives these docs a unique flavor (I have no idea if you’re Latino but it seemed to fit).
I’m so intrigued by Led Zeppelin over Europe 1980 because it was their last.Jimmy Page was giving introductions which was cool.They were back and ready. They had come full circle. They started off with a Train kept a Rolling.Would have been nice if they had played Carouselambra.Just makes me think man this is Led Zeppelin 1980. Just all the what ifs come to my head. I’ve been listening to the bootleg recordings just gets me thinking this is their last live performances and no one knew.
Oh man, i wish they did Carouselambra too. Have you watched my WHAT IF 1980S video? If not, please check it out, there's a special surprise if you like THAT song. :) ua-cam.com/video/iqxnwvhq3Go/v-deo.html
I’ve always loved the Over Europe Tour. It has its issues,but I’m ok with that. The Dortmund gig is a solid opener to the tour. Dave Lewis has a great in-depth book out on the Over Europe Tour. It’s excellent and well worth getting.
Santana played the same location 5 days earlier.The video of the show is here on UA-cam….you added a clip of it. What a gig! Carlos was cooking. Cheers ✌️
Totally agree! I own a copy of that book actually, that started my idea of making my video on In Through the Out Door back in 2022 imagine!! Man, that Santana show at Dortmund really cooks, what a GREAT band!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories….ya I have all Dave’s publications. I bought his first book in 1984 as a teenaged called “The Final Acclaim” …and I was a subscriber to his “Tight But Loose” magazine till he stopped production of it. I bet Dave loves your channel,Jose. How could he not? lol
I was wondering if you’ve heard the Robert Plant audiobook “A Life” ? It’s really interesting and very informative. I’ve read numerous books on the band and Robert over the years but I learned so much more about Robert from that audiobook bio. It’s free here on UA-cam if you can find it. You’d love it. Cheers ✌️
I wanna get Plant's book but printed. Audiobooks are weird. Its hard for me not to get distracted haha!
Thanx for covering the 80's tour. I haven't delved too deeply into this period of the mighty Zeppelin and really appreciate you putting this together for all of us to enjoy. The band sounds hungry again apposed to Sick Again. 😁 They sound excited to play and to remind people they are the Gods of Rock. It's a pleasure watching your docs. Wonderful job my friend!! ✌️🎶🙏
Such great music and movies back then. Another great episode.
Great work Jose! Although they had their moments of inconsistency, there were phenomenal moments during the 1980 European tour. I have multiple shows on soundboard CD, and if nothing else, there was a lot of hope they could do the impossible, and leap back to their old form. Fate intervened, and it was not to be. Best wishes. Ernie
Your analysis of the band's dynamics as they play off each other is special. You really nail the ebbs and flows of their energy. It sets you apart. Keep it up, sir.
Another fantastic episode full of information the normal documentaries gloss over ....... I especially enjoyed the dramatic black cuts ......... ;)
Some have stated that the 1980 LZ Tour was known as the 'Keyboard Tour', but Zep clearly had the drive and energy to perform as a cohesive unit. I can only imagine what the 1980 American Tour potential set list would have consisted of.
Funny how some rock fans really hate Synths....i love em'. This tour is a great photograph. I think i'm gonna do a "what if 1980-1981 Tour video". Thank you very much for watching!
No one ever called it that!
My cousin has unused tickets for the Cleveland show.....I"ve been telling his ass for years to sell them to me...
BEST BAND EVER!!!! Thank you for that BONZO FIX!!! Bonham is the master that made me fall in love with the drums At age 6. Been playing ever since then!! Thanks for the video It was done brilliantly as all ways JCM🔥🔥❤️
Awesome episode as usual 🤘🤘🤘
One of the tour highlights! Love the sound of the alembic on Nobody’s Fault
IMHO The two best album covers of all time: In Through The Out Door & Van Halen 1984….
The fidelity of this audio is astounding. Any insight into why the great leap forward from 1979? Recording technology, performance gear, both, neither?
Thanks bro both of your last two videos were so good! All of them are good. Hope you are feeling better
Thank you JCM as always love the history you always bring and your hard work. Ty
Some outstanding 1980 stuff, WOW
Dinosaurs Rule! You got that right Robert! It's bittersweet to hear these shows knowing now what they didn't know then, that they were on their Swan Song Tour. If only Bonzo had gotten some control over his drinking problem. They saw Keith Moon go down only 2 years before. At least we can appreciate all the great music they left for us and future generations! Thanks JCM for another great video!
I hear you JCM, I think In Through The Out Door is a GREAT album. It happens to show how much talent was in the band, with Plant and Jones doing most of the heavy lifting to get the album done. I sometimes think there will never be another band like Zeppelin, I mean with Page and Jones already have years of professional experience from the time they were, literally, kids (I mean how much talent do must one possess to get the opportunity to work with music professionals with many years of experience, and you are still a teenager?). People like that are hard to come by I would imagine. And Page was fortunate to find Plant, who in turn knew Bonham, both of which are huge talents, and falling into the company of Jones and Page, it all just came together perfectly. That is my understanding of it all, and how often does that kind of thing come about?
Absolutely Kirk, the circumstances for Zeppelin's reign are never to be repeated. It's not just chops, but the times. I don't know if you have, but i did an episode on The Making of the New Yardbirds thay may interest you. The meeting of these 4 guys was definitely DESTINY man!
One of my first bootlegs I bought here in montreal was “moonlight “ from 1980.
great work as usual JCM. thanks
Thank you very much for watching amd for your question on Page! Anytime!
There was definitely a different energy to the 80 tour. Had Bonham lived, Zeppelin would have survived the 80's, the others would have released their solo albums, but there would always be a Zeppelin. I believe they would have gone back to their roots.
🌠Duuuuuude Another good one ...yer banging out the good video's ..u Rock !!!
dortmund is really the best concert in 1980 i have to say... the stairway solo is brilliant and plant even did the high notes in the rain song (i think it's the only time he did that during the 7 years after 1973...)
Very good job…as usual!
Thanks a lot!
Espectacular trabajo, emocionado desde Argentina
Hey Daniel, muchas gracias por sintonizar este episodio. Si eres nuevo bienvenido a un canal de un fanático de Zeppelin dispuesto a explorar cada detalle de su historia así como de otras bandas!
Oh my God! Jimmy Page and Santana were onstage together??? Shake Your Money Maker! Maybe if they had more time, they could of done some recording and such. Anyways, another cool perspective of a time and place. Great video! While watching this video, the way you said Frank Zappa was very noticeable! I bet you can play a great version of Watermelon in Easter Hay! Lots of magic on a Zappa album!
I wanna do a video on Zappa but he has SO MANY avenues to discuss....i can't make up my mind. That and some of his material is very politically incorrect for UA-cam hahahah Thanks for Watching man!
I have listened to the entire 80 tour in both soundboard and audience versions. Bonzo saved the tour. The whole framework of what they did revolved around him. Great touch, great fills. You are right, this is one of the best shows of the entire tour. That said there were some other good shows too. Only one real trainwreck.
Which one was the trainwreck ?
@@JohnPLally Nuremburg 6/27/80 where Bonzo collapsed about 4 or 5 songs into the show.
It seems they had ups and downs on this tour, but managed to crank out serious gems. Had they made it to the USA, the music would have been high quality, and they may have expanded the setlist. Howevr, I do believe there would have been logistical issues and too many negative hangers on due to the shadow of the 1977 tour. I really wish they would have taken a break, have Jimmy and John clean up their lifestyles, and rocked through the 1980s. Just my thoughts, but we will never know. Thank you as always for keeping the most badass band of all-time on the radar!
Another great video JCM, I personally never really looked into this concert. I already mentioned it a few times, but 1979 and 1980 Zep is just so different. It feels so much more mature, subdued... perhaps humbled. I think it took a lot of effort to bring Robert back. I think he was done with the things that gave them a rowdy reputation in the early days. Gone were the crazy excess stories from the early 70s of copious drug abuse and all kinds of mayhem. Of course whether those stories were even true to begin with (and if so, the degree) remains disputed. I have a little book that was given to me by the very kind owner of a record store near me in Holland. It's about the Zep history in the Netherlands. The boys were in Rotterdam in 1980 and looking for the best brothel in town... when in Rome, eh? 😉
I def noticed the 1973 arrangement of Whole Lotta Love! It’s burned into my mind. I can ID any 1973 concert by Zep!
Hehe i know right? It's like a voice within that hums the riff! Thank YOU very much for watching.
ALS “also recorded by Ted Nugent!” Wasn’t expecting that Plantation😂. Thanks for another great episode JCM.
Heartbreaker that riff hearing it at age 9 fn sucked me in like a vacuum I’ve been playing since then one of the best songs ever heartbreaker ♥️✌🏼
Thanks!
Hey man Thanks so much! Now i will buy a copy of In Through the Out Door!
Hah! You're driving up the price/hoarding the remaining inventory LOL.
Hahahh i think there will be a day i can be a seller at these record fairs with my Copies :) 6 pack deals!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories - don't sell them. Once word of your collection spreads far enough then Jimmy, Robert, and JPJ will reach out to you for a dinner invite!
Great stuff as always, TY.
I asked before in the comments of one of your other videos about asking if LZ had any plans of attempting to play Fool in the rain live.
I think I asked and you answered that they did not. Question:
With the complexity of that song on so many levels, was it the reason that it was not performed live? And, do you believe they could have pulled it off live night after night, and how do you think they would have done it?
I know this is a lot, but if anybody would know, I imagine it would be you, because if you were extraordinary knowledge and love of all things, Led Zeppelin.
Thank you again for all your labor of love.
Duck Fan
Cincinnati, OH
Is it me or was Bonham at his best toward the end…. I thought he was great on the Danish warmups and the ‘80 tour. These shows are among my favorites.
Yes, he was all about evolution. You can tell modern drummers at the time, and New Wave had an effect on him. Pretty sure Bonzo was listening to Porcaro, Stewart and all the new greats. John Bonham was always a terrific musician. I think his only "bad" live year was 1975 where he played it a bit too safe. Thank you very much for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I read that Bonham was hugely into The Police at the time, i think i remember a quote of Jason's saying how he was a little pissed that John got the second album before him😂
People said Bonham was fading. NO FREAKING way .
Right? He was a powerhouse, carrying Page on his shoulder and Plant whenever his voice cracked!
Best @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
Excellent video.
Thank you very much! Stay tuned for more Zeppelin travels!
Bravo!!!!
Thanks so much Jeremy! This show rocked hard, no matter what critics said!
Ween probably does the best cover of All My Love on their Live In Chicago DVD.....it's pretty close to the original studio version musically.
I went through a phase a few years ago looking for live versions of TUF. I think Dortmund might have been my favorite including the solo.
Carouselambra would have just been a monster or "Epic" performed live on this tour IMO. I don't know that they could have pulled it off as an opener, but I like to pretend that they absolutely could have. Just and intense and emotional number to open and then maybe transition into something more familiar since Jimmy would have been presumably been on his doubleneck) could have been a great.
This song has Opener written all over. You get TSRTS, Achilles and Tea For One all in one. And the lyrics....they are SO good, very telling, biographical. Thanks so much for watching JP!
Thank you for producing such great content my friend!
You've taught us so much, I'm gonna return the favor. "Saurez" is pronounced "swahray" :)
I have some of the 80's European tour on several vinyl boots and I have the Berlin show. I don't believe I have the Dortmund show...but I think based on what I heard...I need to get it.
Really kick A$$ set list! I’ve always liked the tour poster but I can’t seem to find any info on who designed it? Hipgnosis?
Nice work J 😁👍
I do love Carouselambra, but I' m not sure it could ever work live. Even if the GX-1 was set onstage, the first of the three song's parts would terribly miss that mammoth bass JPJ played on the studio original.
With the drone effect of the Bass notes in A i can see it happening. Not much different from a Trampled Underfoot scenario and Jimmy using the 12 string for this one. Rehearsal tapes show the GX-1 had a great low end. What i think the challenged remained was in it's length and the boys not rehearsing THAT much!
Thanks Jose. Much appreciated. I don't know, man. I think the band would have had to take an extended break to get both Page and Bonzo into rehab. At this point, both were heavily into their addictions. Yea, they sound decent, but it's as if I can tell Robert was ready to move on. They could have gotten back together, after Page and Bonzo either quit their addictions altogether, or at least got them under control. By then, Robert world have released a couple of solo albums. Peace, from Florida, USA.
Ok you made up for the ELP piece you did. Just made a comment about that video today in fact. Still couldn’t watch it all. Surprised these stadiums weren’t sold out.
Stormbringer, man dude you need to go back to the beach 🏝️ 🍹🛟
❤good video as usual
Was Robert joking around about Ted covering Achilles ?
Regardless of its overdubs on the studio version, I think they’d have had a good crack at Carouselambra if they rehearsed it in/for a live setting. I can hear it being run as a four piece, live.
Post comment: I’ve got a nice three record set in colored vinyl of Deep Purple, from Dortmund 1985. The show was of course phenomenal with the original lineup and is in perfect stereo sound. I’ve still got it too!
I saw DP on that 84/85 tour in Toronto and it was incredible! Love “Perfect Strangers”. 👍
Nice one L.B that Purple record must have a great sound! The good thing about Carouselambra is the Bass parts can be done with a drone approach, meaning Jones could have played the chords a la Kashmir's descending part. Now the intricate bass work on the album does give it a very slick feel. The 1978 Rehearsal Bootleg suggests this missing bass as something that enhances the track. Thank you very much for watching!
@@OutOnTheTiles I saw the House Of Blue Light tour, 1987. How I wish I’d seen em right when they reunited in ‘84-5!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories his pedal footwork would subsidize for sure. Remember TYG from ‘77? He basically droned on the A pedal for most of it. He’d have done justice had Carouselambra been brought to the stage.
The way u said page went into the solo without a a safety net on nobody’s fault but mine🤣I love ur inserts led zeppelin baby best band that ever did it and don’t forget it ♥️✌🏼
One of my favorite Zeppelin shows. Bonham is tight, pushing and grooving. One question I must ask, the show audio... what audio source is this? The soundboard is common in trading circles, the audience source while far rarer, is out there too. Is this another source or did you do some editing to the board to add ambiance? I will disagree with you on one point: I think this performance of Achilles Last Stand is the best of the tour. It just vibes far better than even Zurich.
“Led Zeppelin Boots” here on UA-cam has posted mostly all the Zeppelin bootlegs. Check out his channel. I believe he has all versions available posted.
@@OutOnTheTiles Yup. I've looked. I keep up on the Zeppelin trading circles. The audio used on this was different - either from a new source or it had been specially treated for this video.
I remember when the 3 minutes worth of 8mm with sound came onto You Tube around 2013. I'd freeze the beginning and just stare at the daytime exterior of the building with its square honeycomb design. I felt like a time traveler. "Holy shit, Dortmund exterior. Look at that. Whoa." Then, like a decade later I see the facade again, big as ever, on the title card to your documentary. All this is like Biblical to me. haha Cue Etta James "At Last".
Heheh nice Etta James reference. I agree Dortmund's design is striking. I enjoy making these time travels man! Thank you for watching!
In the Evening is the best track on ITTOD. Sick Again… epic track that is hugely under rated live.
14:57 JPJ’s bass is immense here - 22:47 this really was time for “Tea For One” or a medley - 24:38 go Bonzo go - 25:36 through the years Plant got better & better with “Kashmir” - 26:43 sounding so tired, Robert had had enough of this song by 1980, should have left it back in the 70’s- 27:14 stellar encores.
Fantastic as ever Jose - a series!!! I can’t wait. Those black screen cuts? 👍
Paul!!! Hey man long time no see. Let me know on the vinyl album transfer project! So those black cuts i added for a dramatic effect, like the shock after an explosion i guess. Maybe i got too cinematic hehe. Your timestamps comments are spot on!
You never "leave Stairway back in the 70s". What's wrong with you?
Jose, I’ll write to you about the vinyl transfer in Patreon
These shows uniformly good to frankfurt excellent. Herion in background but energy there
The energy was maintained for sure, as Page said, the band was so exciting they HAD the energy for it!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories the Frankfurt show and the futuristic whole lotta love from final night at Berlin as well as train kept a rolling openings/communication breakdown closings. And yes, money from the Frankfurt show
Great video dude I watch all your videos I'm very entertained thank you. I wanted to tell you about in through the outdoor one of the most common covers seen here you should View very closely and find all the hidden elements like the condom on the floor and the weird faces , great photography planned out meticulously knowing there would be Led Zeppelin Stoners smoking a joint and focusing in on it intensely. Hypnosis was the designer, and the background if you really get into it and find all these things I think they were put their purposely obviously. Let me know what you think I could show you some of the one cover I'm talking about, if you give me your contact information. This could be an episode that you could speculate on possibly
I've been to the 1980 show in Frankfurt, it was very disappointing...
explain
@@roywatson8133 well, it's 44 years ago, but I remember very sloppy performance by both Page and Plant.
yeh we all know back in those days page was always out of is skull as for plant i cant say @@Schnitzengruben
Zeppelin would have ruled the 80's as well...if fate didn't take Mr. Bonham.
Makes me feel sad for some reason!
I agree, Page played much better sitting
This really speaks into his "problems" being related to injury and not "personal lifestyle choices" so much. Beck even said Page was a better acoustic player!
I like John Paul Jones Eddie Cochran hair
Haha yes, looking into the 80s. An update of his 1975 short hair style!
I wonder what Robert Plant was alluding to when he told the audience that ALS was "also recorded" by Ted Nugent; don't know Nugent's whole catalogue but presumed that Plant was referring to Stranglehold (they both have a military drum patterns in the middle sections); that can't be right because Stranglehold was released before ALS.
Plant is known to rib others in the biz. Even his band and himself. Granted his jokes sometimes go down like a Led balloon 🎈 🔥
@@ministerofdarkness Yep; just wondering what he was specifically referring to in this case; he might actually be taking a jab at Stranglehold, which is very similar in riff & arrangement to Whole Lotta Love
Don't know for sure, but it has similar "feel" to a lot of Nugents Double Live Gonzo material. Definitely Wang Dang Sweet Poontang and Baby Please Don't Go. Listen and see what you think.
Met a dame. She was a dame. Met a dame. She was a real gone dame.
Great as always Jose , Zep were at their most popular in 76 throughout early 78... Plant soured this tour in 80 with his rules and regulations for the band.
Hot Dog should of NEVER been played live .. IMO.
They waited way to long from Knebworth to this tour... Just a Shame . Not sure what the American Tour would of been like BUT I sure wish we got a shot to see or hear it . Losing Bonzo was a devastating loss . They could of returned to the biggest band PERIOD again IF they played a bit longer and added A few more Rockers to the the setlist. And made new Material you know the kind Page and Bonham talked about in late 79 .. Back to More Rock guitar driven material
Again the wait from August 79 to the 80 Euro tour was just soooo much time wasted away that hurt the band imo. Another Plant choice Im sure.
Zep is always #1for me the best EVER 🤘🏼
As you know,Robert’s son died in 1977…..obviously traumatic for him. He blamed himself for not being there to help. So when Logan was born in 1979 he promised that he was going to spend as much time being a father to him that he could. So he cooled off on everything Zeppelin. Makes sense to be. He owed us nothing.
Check out the Audio Book “A Life”the Robert Plant bio. It’s 10 hours long, but really informative . Makes you see Robert in a different light. It can be found here on UA-cam for free. Cheers
@@OutOnTheTiles I get what you are saying BUT 5 minutes in Zeppelin time could be 5 years . The band admitted they did not know each other like they did in 77 they really never knew each other the same again after Karac sadly passed away.... This thing of Plant not owing us anything sure, I agree but that has nothing to do with what I said in my comment . Led Zeppelin waited way to long to come back in 1980 . Jones and Plant during the Knebworth interview sure didn't act as if it was a possibility to wait that long . Page even at his worse was ready to go and was chomping at the bit to get back . Seeing the band shy on stage after ruling the music 🌎 throughout the 70's was very weird. Knebworth, Copenhagen in July of 79 and all of the Euro 80 tour for me was very odd . BUT it's Zeppelin and therefore I will listen to it all . ✌🏼
There is video of U2 on their “Unforgettable Fire” tour playing Dortmund in 1984. Weird to think it was just 4 short years after Led Zeppelin. Seems like a whole new era musically and yet it was just 4 short years.
Great catch there! Yes the musical shift in 4 years seems to have grown from the huge scars of losing both Lennon and Bonham in 1980.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 1980 is definitely a demarcated point. I believe MTV started in 1981 too so that’s another demarcation point in the other direction.
I have a fixation on 1980. The energy i feel on all records released that years is eerie.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I agree. 1980 is fascinating…it’s sort of old world meets new world. I see pictures of Lennon in 1980 and he seems to be almost part of what would be an emerging modern era…(he was into New Wave like Blondie, and the B-52’s, his whole vibe seemed geared towards the emerging decade and beyond yet he never made it out of the first year of that decade). 1980 has something similar with LZ. Their tour was a back to basics approach that seemed to be informed in some part by punk and New Wave, their look was a bit more informed by the current bands of 1980…Robert wore T shirts and jeans, Jimmy wore t shirts and JPJ had a shortish haircut and subdued fashion…only Bonham held out with his beard. Even LZ’s musical pals and influences were changing for the times. Robert and JPJ shared the stage with Pretenders and Attractions in late 1979. John Bonham became a massive Police fan. The times were changing but they (like Lennon), wouldn’t go further than late 1980.
The tour was stripped of excess solos and long shows overall. The 70s were clearly over for LZ. And they embarked on a new era of short playlists. A foreshadowing of what could have been for the Fall US Tour.
Hard to see Marley Lennon Bonzo , Bon Scott and yes Karen Carpenter (loved her voice) were still with us around this time.
Yes, for me this makes 1980 such a special yet tragic year. Emotionally speaking this year hits hard, even though i was not around on Planet Earth back then!
I was 7 @@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
Bon passed in February 80.
@@JusCuz410 correct my bad
@@MustangRed1967 No worries
Why Hot Dog??? I never got that one.
10:15 [note to self: you’re next guitar has to be a Yamaha SG2000] eye thank yew
I played one at a friend's house who collects guitars. They are SO SO Cool. The tone and sustain...but the weight is worse than a Les Paul hehe. Paul thanks so much for watching. I mentioned in a previous comment, let me know on the Vinyl transfer please!
I’ll have a look Jose…
From the cuts included, 1980 was the John Bonham show. Reducing the self indulgence & extended solos (in response to punk?), a definite plus . Page's erratic performances must have greatly irritated & impacted future decisions by RP & JPJ.
Actually i don't like Page's attitude..he seems to underplay the new album numbers, i resent that. I don't own 52 copies of ITTOD for nothing :) Thanks for Watching!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Agreed, your commitment to ITTOD unrivalled globally.... Their only album not having JP's DNA all over it, perhaps explains his luke warm attitude, then throw in (allegations of) substance challenges...
52 copies of ITTOD. You are one unique cat, Jose.
BVB!
Too bad Bonham died,but let's be real, the band was on his last legs, PRESENCE and the last one are just pale shadows of their masterpieces. Maybe it's the matter of taste,but that's my opinion
Presence is just as great as the albums before it, it literally has Achilles Last Stand For Your Life Nobody's Fault But Mine and Tea For One.
Much better set list than 1977 for sure. However, Plant used the vocal harmoniser thing way to much / often and sounds weird on quite a few songs. Jimmy was better than Knebworth ( not difficult to achieve ) but still clumsy quite often. We’ll never know what could gave come next, sadly.
To think people had already been exposed to Eddie Van Halen at this point...
Yeah by this point I think VH had already released women and children first. lol by this time VH was already halfway through their real run with Dave… craziness.
I’m sorry….I will have to disagree with you when you typed that “Jimmy Page speaks”. That was John Bonham. I’ve listened to enough Jimmy Page interviews to know that’s not the timbre of his speaking voice….nor his accent. I could be wrong, but I’d be really surprised if I were. Maybe he’s “taking the piss” putting on a Midland’s accent?
It's a very interesting point. I know Jimmy seems more well spoken in interviews, especially in latter years, but I think it definitely is him? It's that West London accent that I think is damn difficult to copy..... have a listen to the EPK with Jimmy and David Coverdale,Neal Preston is interviewing. It's here on UA-cam. Bonzo had a slightly deeper voice.....my favourite is when he tells Earl's Court that football is a load of bollox 😂. But, you do make a very interesting point..... certainly got me thinking and listening to that section again! I met Jimmy in 2005 and he has a very high speaking voice. Thanks as always to @jcm!
Mr. Spaulding what gives away its Jimmy is Bonham's laugh when Page says they got a number which clearly mocks Robert's on stage banter :) Also when he goes for the good evening line, he is pushing his soft tone into the extreme.
It's definitely Jimmy speaking.
I really like this series. But the washed out colorizing is getting old. I find myself wishing they were just normal looking. Great job. Well done, watched them all.
The Colorizing is a form of regression in how we remember the past :) Thanks for tuning in. My Patrons seem to like the video style and i will keep at it!
Thought Zeppelin sounded good, what could’ve been 👍
I can't stand the synth line through the slow bridge of In The Evening on the live versions. What he and Page are doing there live ruin the magic of the song for me.
That's a strange thing right? I went back and checked the studio version. It puzzles me why Jones decided to use that part so upfront. Page did a fine job. Sometimes i think Jones should have just played Bass on this one as his lines on the record truly make this song a POWERHOUSE.
I love everything about Led Zeppelin. But I just don't get why Hot Dog is featured in live shows. Sorry, it's just not worthy. Maybe useful for its fun vibe, it's loose upbeat tempo and feel, but nah, it's not worth devoting time in a live show to it. Any other song but Hot Dog ffs!
I didn’t like this song at first. The older I got. I love it. It’s a fun song. Sounds cool and upbeat. They loved playing it probably
F**k, they're all in the pocket with the parts from this gig.
I don't know why zeppelin didn't try 'for your life'.....'candy store rock'.....'fool in the rain'.....'carouselambra'....'I'm gonna crawl'....on this tour and drop some of the old - old songs....'hot dog'....I mean....come on....
Yes Volpeverde, they had enough material to try out different things. I sense Jimmy suffered from nerves on stage..., i really do. Rehearsals for them were not your average learning the song but living with the pressure of delivering! Thank you very much for watching!
maybe the band didnot have any faifh in those songs but your right the set list needed a change
@@volpeverde6441 they were entering the point of their careers were “here’s a song of the new album” equaled time to get a beer. If Led Zeppelin ditched the hits and played only tunes from the last couple albums… they’re would have been a riot. I don’t know why hot dog even exists it’s a lame ass song to begin with, but while I agree the setlist getting updates would have been good… you gotta play the hits too.
Our boys came out guns blazing in 1980. A warning to these other yo-yo’s…FAFO!
They were very very good in '80 .. save for a few shows. Hate to say Jimmy was weakest link then. But for obvious reasons.
Yeah Jimmy was a strange man here, but on Since he managed to play great stuff and Trampled. I think he really got bad cases of stage fright!
Hot Dog, though.
BTW, did you mention ''ZEBRA' ? ICB you kno who those guys are/were!!!! ZEBRA never made it passed 'BAR BAND' status (THEY SHOULD HAV HIT THE BIG TIME !.)........WE used to go see them in bars in NYC al LOT (they played Zeppelin covers, thats why we all went !!!)....... N E WAY, @ 14:52, on BONZO's GONG, there appears to be a FACE OF SOMEONE SUPER-IMPOSED ONTO THE GONG...(it stays there for at least 10 seconds)...... AND IT DAMN SURE LOOKS LIKE A PORTRAIT, of.......NEED TO SEE IT IN CORRECT LIGHTING.......I Aint gonna say it, but WTF is that doing there ?..........I MEAN WTF ?