Even with his short stint on that show, he managed to be one of the best actors they’ve had in a loooong time. It’s impressive and crazy to think about because my family has been watching that show for generations at this point.
@@angierodriguez4729 Hannibal (the first two seasons) is actually good because it has decent writing, cool camera work and visuals and Mads Mikkaelson is brilliant as Hannibal. The third season is fanfiction level of bad.
Funny watching this AFTER watching the most recent episode! Lol you were spot on about the dream-like sequences. This show is a ride and im living for it!
I was hit by how much I liked it when I saw people who only watched for Chavez (guilty) calling it awful ... the nurse isn’t working for me either, but I’ll see how the surrealism pans out.
With all the Ryan Murphy shows reviews, I would love to see your take on scream queens. I feel like not enough people on UA-cam truly break it down in the way that you do.
Really enjoyed this video, as I do all of them. Just up to the point where there has been a very surreal, abstract turn - I went to a Catholic school as a non-religious kid and we were taught the various interpretations of the bible. We would switch from a literal interpretation straight into a hunt for symbolism in the same text. Shifts from grounded to dream-like in Grotesquerie are interesting to me for this reason. The idea of punishment is also a very interesting one to play with in this context. Regardless I feel like I learn a lot from this content, so thank you.
All I've seen of this show is nicholas as a priest and it's enough to make me watch. I love longlegs and anything like Se7en, so hearing that made me more excited to seeing it
9:59 Spoilers possibly: When Lois and Kelce's characters first meet she remarks on the rose garden, and he says something along the lines of that's not for us. I think he may be a psychopomp. I also think that's why he met her daughter, she's no longer with us, either. Weird show, but everyone is acting their butts(hehehe Nick🥵) off!!! Cheers!
I think they're in hell. Lois said something about it seeming like heaven and he said they can't go there. I don't know if it's just Lois in hell or if this is like a team effort to get redeemed, but it does feel like a Dante's Inferno type of story.
Ugh, I have so many theories, haha. I definitely think Father Charlie has some connection to Grotesquerie, but I don’t think he’s Grotesquerie. His character is desperate to draw believers to the Church, and I feel like something supernatural is going on, and he knows that sleeping with Sister Megan is part of that apocalypse or plan Grotesquerie has to bring more people to the church. That’s why he feels so conflicted: on one hand, his sexual desire, but also the intention to stay true to his vows. Because why her specifically, right? She's super devout, and on top of that, she's working closely with Lois. Tempting a nun like her, who's so innocent and even childlike, he knew she’d be the one to fall into sin. The lamb falling into temptation. I mean, what could be more severe than a Priest and a Nun having sex? The scene with Sister Megan acting possessed reminds me of that iconic scene from Possession, also similar to the scene in The First Omen where Margaret goes through this sort of possession and ends up pregnant. To me, it's a representation of sin truly taking hold of her. I don’t think Ed Laclan (Kelcey) is real. Like, I can’t remember any scenes where he interacts with other characters besides Lois and her daughter. But I think he talks to someone when he brings food to Lois’s husband’s room? Plus, we have to keep in mind that Lois isn’t a reliable character: she sleeps very little and drinks a lot. Her reality could easily be distorted by alcohol. Doesn’t that happen to all of us when we’ve had too much to drink? Imagine if you were drinking 24/7. I also think the nurse represents something... but I’m not sure what yet haha. I think, for now, the show is heading in an apocalyptic direction, and all these murders are steps leading up to that, including the thing with the nun and the priest. And now that you mentioned it could be some kind of limbo or purgatory, it totally makes sense.
The visual effects and cinematography remind me a lot of Hannibal (TV series). I think this new Ryan's product has more budget than for example (ahs) because it shows in the quality, the performances are great. That one-shot scene in ep5 left me feeling really uncomfortable and vulnerable, like anything was possible, lol
The nurse was so weird being pulled from an early 1920 show with an accent that shouldn’t exist in america in modern time. Travis sounded like gambit from wolverine and Deadpool when introduced it felt like a romcom but the color grading kept adding an orange filter and the writing slowed down so much it really just felt like a chore watching this I’m ok if this gets cancelled
I found it hard to get through with sporadic bursts of being worthwhile. And ofc ep 7 made that even worse & those bursts farther & fewer in between. Genuinely struggled to finish the season
I feel like maybe more characters are going to be introduced as maybe the four horsemen? Or maybe the seven deadly sins idk that's where they are going with it.
I watched the first ep with my dad. He continued without me and seems to like it lol. He constantly tells me how gross and disgusting Niecy Nash's character's alcoholism is. I think the show did a really good job with the scene where she's describing the scene of the crime, especially when she gets to the part about the baby. I kept finding myself wondering why she was getting away with telling this random nun everything, wish they'd figured out a better way to incorporate the nun into her storyline but again I only saw the first ep. I didn't like the nurse either lol. Also, I feel like she told Nash she was recording her when she visits her husband or something. Like what? Listening to your video it seems like this story takes a turn that could be fun and different. I'll check with my dad what he thought about it lol.
Does the acting feel off to anyone else? I only watched the first episode so far, but I find myself put off by the dialogue and delivery. I felt similarly to The Mare of Eastown or whatever that Kate Winslet show is on HBO. Maybe it’s just me?
at times it does feel weird but i think it’s part of the “bigger picture” of the show if that makes sense? i feel like a lot of things so far are there to give you an uneasy feel
Yes the dialogue is bad, very clunky. It makes it hard to get through. Especially the scenes between the cop & nun. The scenes with the daughter is much better. The actors try & do the best with what they were given but they are struggling. I watched 1st 2 episode don't know if I will keep watching.
@@tehyaneedsalife yeah, maybe you’re on to something. I’m gonna watch some more because I’m diggin the story and the weirdness of it all, and I absolutely love Niecy.
I feel like at the beginning when you first meet the nurse you one don’t like her, two you feel thrown off by her because her lines aren’t very discrete and her manipulation is so obvious, but the show is kinda meant to be a a little obvious since it’s trying to point things out to the audience.
Ok so I won't address anything in 5 and 6, but your description of 3 fits them. I am used to Ryan Murphy going off the rails because he doesn't know how to wrap up a story, but he got an early start. I think Travis Kelsey is a throw away character. There is some time dimension something going on, but I'm just not interested because its just dragged out for another two episodes. I am glad we have Agatha at the same time, much better show to forget my disappointment in Grotesquerie.
I feel like Lois is the one in the coma and she's being tortured by her own thoughts on the road to death. If so, it's the sloppiest, laziest writing to date. Then he's not going to have to explain anything.
@@tgabzYou should see him in that Menendez bros Netflix Monster series. Bro on some method actor shit. He became that brother of the 2. Other guy who played Erik did excellent as well.
@@tgabz his ability as an actor can’t be understated tbh. He’s only been in 4 projects so far and he completely got into the role for every single one. He didn’t win an Emmy on his first show for no reason.
I think Travis Kelsy may be a angel trying to covert her to a heaven I believe the nun and Travis are people Trying to make Lois a better person but idk if it's going to happen I think she's in a limbo event
Considering how gorgeous and powerful Nicholas Chavez’s character and portrayal is, I’m thinking her weird scene in the hallway was DEFINITELY a religious experience. Haha
Growing up a Chiefs fan (the football team Travis Kelce plays for), I would have never guessed our players would be dating pop stars and acting in TV shows because they were so bad for so long until very recently lol
@@marshallstannuslt's actually called a "scourge" and was supposed to have been used on Jesus before the crucifixion. Religious persons have used it as penance. I think Ryan Murphy is working out his religious kink using young actors.
I love this show. the only thing is that the main protagonist/ detective lady is not really giving a good acting performance. im so sorry. I actually like her as an actress but I think that in this one she is very still and not natural/ truthful in some moments. always the same note in every scene, quite frustrating. the priest and nun are great at acting at least!
Unfortunately, the series starts to go off the rails by episode 5. By episode 6 it makes very little sense. I loved the first couple episodes, but I barely like it now.
For me the nurse is so- out of place and then travis feeling so out of place, but just strange and random. Having those two weird characters made me think the hospital was in her head. Plus the white door and garden scene and when he said "were not allowed to go out there." (Does the garden symbolize death, passing on, or heaven...and the people in the hospital can't go because they are sinners?? Idk fr,..or her subconsciously talk to her idk). Also the nurse always speak on the staff hating the main character since she acts up Everytime, but honestly I barely seen that and barely if not no staff. But then i remember travis interacted with her daughter and i believe her daughter talked about the dad in a coma, so i think my few minute confused theory was wrong. 😂 Side note : told my friend about this show so far as of today. And she had a fun theory- that the nun interacting with the father Charlie each time makes her closer to possession and maybe the world cracking. Since I told her of the nun looking like she was frantic and getting possessed in the hallway after the interaction, then the fire hole ep.
I don't care about this porno wannabe True Detective show. I feel sorry for Niecy Nash though because she was the only good thing about that Dahmer shitshow.
i must say they did good making it 30 mins not 45 in the last two eps; also it drags on a LOT with scenes that don't really have much substance, like the part that was all red, useless arguments with the nurse (shes not surreal enough yet absolutely bizzare to be actually real ugh) etc. tho I appreciate the cinematography and the religious themes, for a show that doesn't do much with the profiling of a murderer, or the investigation at all (like why??) the first ep really traumatized me ngl... the priest is fire tho I agree /// to be honest, idk where this show is going, I'm afraid it will fall flat and that it' s written with a "oh this would be cool/this would be sick" in mind, but I want to think better of the writers, but so far in the show it seems like the creators are not sure what they are doing with it, so it will be a whim
I can't stand the main character in this show (Lois). The most unrealistic part about this show is that someone like Travis Kelce will be attracted to her.
i dont think his tiktoks are cringy. i love them he has such a goofy personality seemingly
“Females”
What is even cringe right
" Being cringe " is used to make people not be themselves
He was on a soap opera (General Hospital) so he’s not a stranger to dramatic acting
Lol General Hospital meets Longlegs just with all the focus of squirrel with ADHD
@@cccantv6457 😂
Even with his short stint on that show, he managed to be one of the best actors they’ve had in a loooong time. It’s impressive and crazy to think about because my family has been watching that show for generations at this point.
These murders honestly reminded me of the show Hannibal with how graphic they were.
Yes! It does seem similar in many ways.
Hannibal if hannibal was a rip off and had no imagination
Same, this show reminds me so much of Hannibal as well.
reminds me of penny dreadful+penny dreadful city of angels
@@angierodriguez4729 Hannibal (the first two seasons) is actually good because it has decent writing, cool camera work and visuals and Mads Mikkaelson is brilliant as Hannibal. The third season is fanfiction level of bad.
Funny watching this AFTER watching the most recent episode! Lol you were spot on about the dream-like sequences. This show is a ride and im living for it!
I actually feel like in a few yrs, Nicholas has the potential to be a big leading man.
After monsters and this, he's definitely an extraordinary actor.
@@yugi960 Who?
Lois is in a coma, that's why everything feels like a fever dream.
The nurse is like she's from the 1940s,very out of place.
hottest guy in a r murphy show in long time.....VERY
Ryan got tired of nutting to his Kelce trading card, so why not get the real thing on his show?
This show is so original and creative, so much talent on production and acting 👌
I was hit by how much I liked it when I saw people who only watched for Chavez (guilty) calling it awful ...
the nurse isn’t working for me either, but I’ll see how the surrealism pans out.
With all the Ryan Murphy shows reviews, I would love to see your take on scream queens. I feel like not enough people on UA-cam truly break it down in the way that you do.
Really enjoyed this video, as I do all of them. Just up to the point where there has been a very surreal, abstract turn -
I went to a Catholic school as a non-religious kid and we were taught the various interpretations of the bible. We would switch from a literal interpretation straight into a hunt for symbolism in the same text. Shifts from grounded to dream-like in Grotesquerie are interesting to me for this reason.
The idea of punishment is also a very interesting one to play with in this context.
Regardless I feel like I learn a lot from this content, so thank you.
All I've seen of this show is nicholas as a priest and it's enough to make me watch. I love longlegs and anything like Se7en, so hearing that made me more excited to seeing it
I like how your foot is kind of on Ryan's neck.
He was more of a soft boy then an eboy 😭
you so wrong for the introo 😭
9:59 Spoilers possibly:
When Lois and Kelce's characters first meet she remarks on the rose garden, and he says something along the lines of that's not for us. I think he may be a psychopomp. I also think that's why he met her daughter, she's no longer with us, either.
Weird show, but everyone is acting their butts(hehehe Nick🥵) off!!! Cheers!
I think they're in hell. Lois said something about it seeming like heaven and he said they can't go there. I don't know if it's just Lois in hell or if this is like a team effort to get redeemed, but it does feel like a Dante's Inferno type of story.
You're presentation is amazing brother.
I am DOWN for the Hot Priest/Nun action. Things are fun (in fiction) when they’re that twisted. Real life not so much, lol.
Ugh, I have so many theories, haha. I definitely think Father Charlie has some connection to Grotesquerie, but I don’t think he’s Grotesquerie. His character is desperate to draw believers to the Church, and I feel like something supernatural is going on, and he knows that sleeping with Sister Megan is part of that apocalypse or plan Grotesquerie has to bring more people to the church. That’s why he feels so conflicted: on one hand, his sexual desire, but also the intention to stay true to his vows. Because why her specifically, right? She's super devout, and on top of that, she's working closely with Lois. Tempting a nun like her, who's so innocent and even childlike, he knew she’d be the one to fall into sin. The lamb falling into temptation. I mean, what could be more severe than a Priest and a Nun having sex?
The scene with Sister Megan acting possessed reminds me of that iconic scene from Possession, also similar to the scene in The First Omen where Margaret goes through this sort of possession and ends up pregnant. To me, it's a representation of sin truly taking hold of her.
I don’t think Ed Laclan (Kelcey) is real. Like, I can’t remember any scenes where he interacts with other characters besides Lois and her daughter. But I think he talks to someone when he brings food to Lois’s husband’s room? Plus, we have to keep in mind that Lois isn’t a reliable character: she sleeps very little and drinks a lot. Her reality could easily be distorted by alcohol. Doesn’t that happen to all of us when we’ve had too much to drink? Imagine if you were drinking 24/7.
I also think the nurse represents something... but I’m not sure what yet haha.
I think, for now, the show is heading in an apocalyptic direction, and all these murders are steps leading up to that, including the thing with the nun and the priest. And now that you mentioned it could be some kind of limbo or purgatory, it totally makes sense.
How much does Travis Kelce remind you of Jack Kesey from Claws?
Should have gotten Kesy, at least he’s an actual actor.
Nicholas chavez is fineeeeeeeee ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Can't wait to see how it ends!
The visual effects and cinematography remind me a lot of Hannibal (TV series). I think this new Ryan's product has more budget than for example (ahs) because it shows in the quality, the performances are great. That one-shot scene in ep5 left me feeling really uncomfortable and vulnerable, like anything was possible, lol
Welp, adding this to the queue.
The nurse was so weird being pulled from an early 1920 show with an accent that shouldn’t exist in america in modern time. Travis sounded like gambit from wolverine and Deadpool when introduced it felt like a romcom but the color grading kept adding an orange filter and the writing slowed down so much it really just felt like a chore watching this I’m ok if this gets cancelled
I found it hard to get through with sporadic bursts of being worthwhile. And ofc ep 7 made that even worse & those bursts farther & fewer in between. Genuinely struggled to finish the season
I feel like maybe more characters are going to be introduced as maybe the four horsemen? Or maybe the seven deadly sins idk that's where they are going with it.
I watched the first ep with my dad. He continued without me and seems to like it lol. He constantly tells me how gross and disgusting Niecy Nash's character's alcoholism is. I think the show did a really good job with the scene where she's describing the scene of the crime, especially when she gets to the part about the baby. I kept finding myself wondering why she was getting away with telling this random nun everything, wish they'd figured out a better way to incorporate the nun into her storyline but again I only saw the first ep. I didn't like the nurse either lol. Also, I feel like she told Nash she was recording her when she visits her husband or something. Like what? Listening to your video it seems like this story takes a turn that could be fun and different. I'll check with my dad what he thought about it lol.
Ryan Murphy can't write a good woman character.
Yay, love your videos!
I'm LOVIN IT
Does the acting feel off to anyone else? I only watched the first episode so far, but I find myself put off by the dialogue and delivery. I felt similarly to The Mare of Eastown or whatever that Kate Winslet show is on HBO. Maybe it’s just me?
at times it does feel weird but i think it’s part of the “bigger picture” of the show if that makes sense? i feel like a lot of things so far are there to give you an uneasy feel
Yes the dialogue is bad, very clunky. It makes it hard to get through. Especially the scenes between the cop & nun. The scenes with the daughter is much better. The actors try & do the best with what they were given but they are struggling. I watched 1st 2 episode don't know if I will keep watching.
@@tehyaneedsalife yeah, maybe you’re on to something. I’m gonna watch some more because I’m diggin the story and the weirdness of it all, and I absolutely love Niecy.
@@beewest5704 I’m going to try another episode tonight and try to get past it because I’m very intrigued by the story
I feel like at the beginning when you first meet the nurse you one don’t like her, two you feel thrown off by her because her lines aren’t very discrete and her manipulation is so obvious, but the show is kinda meant to be a a little obvious since it’s trying to point things out to the audience.
Ok so I won't address anything in 5 and 6, but your description of 3 fits them. I am used to Ryan Murphy going off the rails because he doesn't know how to wrap up a story, but he got an early start. I think Travis Kelsey is a throw away character. There is some time dimension something going on, but I'm just not interested because its just dragged out for another two episodes. I am glad we have Agatha at the same time, much better show to forget my disappointment in Grotesquerie.
Ryan Murphy is very hit or miss. I try to trust the process, but it’s just all over the place sometimes. 😂
I feel like Lois is the one in the coma and she's being tortured by her own thoughts on the road to death. If so, it's the sloppiest, laziest writing to date. Then he's not going to have to explain anything.
@@bees.857 And he probably won’t do that well either. Kinda like American Horror Story: Apocalypse
Wonderfully shot. Needed a different plot twist. Beautiful show though.
You can watch Dexter and get more of everything you liked without the flaws of the story telling or ugly color grading
I'm surprised Nicholas Chavez isn't in more projects...
thank god, he's awful 😂
@@tgabzYou should see him in that Menendez bros Netflix Monster series. Bro on some method actor shit. He became that brother of the 2. Other guy who played Erik did excellent as well.
@@tgabzI believe most actors and actresses have potential and sometimes get shit roles cause of the director's style.
@@tgabz his ability as an actor can’t be understated tbh. He’s only been in 4 projects so far and he completely got into the role for every single one. He didn’t win an Emmy on his first show for no reason.
@@30daysnosleep what ability?
I think the daughter is dead 🥲
That's what I thought. She never leaves the house? Never visits dad in the hospital?
😞
Explains the non stop drinking
Give us more videos on this
This week!
I think Travis Kelsy may be a angel trying to covert her to a heaven I believe the nun and Travis are people Trying to make Lois a better person but idk if it's going to happen I think she's in a limbo event
Considering how gorgeous and powerful Nicholas Chavez’s character and portrayal is, I’m thinking her weird scene in the hallway was DEFINITELY a religious experience. Haha
Yeah, I like them on General Hospital. I guess you like I’m on this show muscle, but I haven’t get a chance to watch the show Chavez.
Growing up a Chiefs fan (the football team Travis Kelce plays for), I would have never guessed our players would be dating pop stars and acting in TV shows because they were so bad for so long until very recently lol
Barbed wire on the whip? Where are you getting that from?
It had little pointy things or something poking out
@@marshallstannuslt's actually called a "scourge" and was supposed to have been used on Jesus before the crucifixion. Religious persons have used it as penance.
I think Ryan Murphy is working out his religious kink using young actors.
Wrong platform..we are allll on reddit. Where you arent. ATM❤
I was thinking Grotesquerie is a religious cult 😮
I love this show. the only thing is that the main protagonist/ detective lady is not really giving a good acting performance. im so sorry. I actually like her as an actress but I think that in this one she is very still and not natural/ truthful in some moments. always the same note in every scene, quite frustrating. the priest and nun are great at acting at least!
I think its the bad script. They can only do so much with what they were given.
Unfortunately, the series starts to go off the rails by episode 5. By episode 6 it makes very little sense. I loved the first couple episodes, but I barely like it now.
Thanks now I won't waste my time. I watched till the second episode & a few minutes of the 3rd.
Same…
Check out the new show SweetPea it's brilliant and killer
I have it’s awesome , video this week
The series was a total waste of my time. HOwever it is forgiven for containing the fascinating (and of course HOT) Father Charlie.
Trueeee
For me the nurse is so- out of place and then travis feeling so out of place, but just strange and random.
Having those two weird characters made me think the hospital was in her head. Plus the white door and garden scene and when he said "were not allowed to go out there." (Does the garden symbolize death, passing on, or heaven...and the people in the hospital can't go because they are sinners?? Idk fr,..or her subconsciously talk to her idk). Also the nurse always speak on the staff hating the main character since she acts up Everytime, but honestly I barely seen that and barely if not no staff.
But then i remember travis interacted with her daughter and i believe her daughter talked about the dad in a coma, so i think my few minute confused theory was wrong. 😂
Side note : told my friend about this show so far as of today. And she had a fun theory- that the nun interacting with the father Charlie each time makes her closer to possession and maybe the world cracking. Since I told her of the nun looking like she was frantic and getting possessed in the hallway after the interaction, then the fire hole ep.
I don't care about this porno wannabe True Detective show. I feel sorry for Niecy Nash though because she was the only good thing about that Dahmer shitshow.
i must say they did good making it 30 mins not 45 in the last two eps; also it drags on a LOT with scenes that don't really have much substance, like the part that was all red, useless arguments with the nurse (shes not surreal enough yet absolutely bizzare to be actually real ugh) etc. tho I appreciate the cinematography and the religious themes, for a show that doesn't do much with the profiling of a murderer, or the investigation at all (like why??) the first ep really traumatized me ngl... the priest is fire tho I agree /// to be honest, idk where this show is going, I'm afraid it will fall flat and that it' s written with a "oh this would be cool/this would be sick" in mind, but I want to think better of the writers, but so far in the show it seems like the creators are not sure what they are doing with it, so it will be a whim
I watched the first 3 episodes and turned it off. I couldn't stand it. It was absolute nonsense 😂
I can't stand the main character in this show (Lois). The most unrealistic part about this show is that someone like Travis Kelce will be attracted to her.
I love Niecy but she is not believable as a detective. They should have made her a private investigator instead.